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Cockblocked: Apple Vision Pro Reveal & The Shining Book vs Movie · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  we have on good authority that Luke is currently on his way to a location where
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  he can potentially join the podcast however he's not here right now this
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  must be the earliest we've ever mentioned a missing co-host oh I I don't
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  think we could do it any earlier Fair unless we didn't unless we
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  just didn't record it welcome to multiple
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  been in hospital he's probably gonna talk very open about yeah but if you
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  all I know is that I dropped in on him yesterday and you know when you're
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  you're getting some kind of infusion they basically hang a bag on an IV with
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  a with a drip into you he had that but whatever they were giving him was
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  literally locked away so so could drink massively controlled substance yeah yeah
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  I thought going to say it was Mountain Dew I did take him a little care package
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  of um blue v and um nerds so cuz he yeah he needs sugar he needs that stuff yeah
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  I didn't want him to um go into withdrawal yeah totally what do You'
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  noticed that I was there no no no if he went into withdrawal because he's he's
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  receiving some some quite potent true infusions from what I I can you be in
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  withdrawal from something if you're overdosing on something else that's I
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  don't know the science behind this intentionally overdosing
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  intentionally is that how you would describe I guess we ask him how his
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  doctor described it to him and he's going to say I wasn't paying attention
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  yeah yeah no he wouldn't have been no so we can carry on uh without him in the
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  meantime got quite a bit of stuff this week yeah lot's happened lot's happened
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  in the tech world this week yeah do you want to talk about Apple yeah let's talk
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  about Apple we've got uh WWDC we got some quite a lot actually already we got
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  new Mac Pro with the M1 M well Sor the
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  M2 Chip Mac Pro looks sexy as [ __ ] I'll never be able to afford one but it's
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  been a while since I've actually wanted a Mac sitting on my desk and I want this
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  one this one's beautiful the thing about this one is right so I have a Mac Studio
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  here that I'm using sure now right and basically this new Mac Pro is the same
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  well it's got the M2 in it mine's got the M1 so it's like one of the new Mac
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  Studios the only difference really is that it's got PCI slots and I don't know
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  that the p slots are worth the what $4,000 extra I would have to pay that's
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  right just to get this in that case you know true you could probably 3D print a
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  case for your Mac Studio and just have it sitting inside there it in there I'll
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  just buy like yeah exactly I wait till somebody one of the because it's the
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  same case that the Intel Mac Pros are in I'll wait till somebody trashes Theirs
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  to get one of these buy the case and just slot this inside oh does this
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  already exist see I've been so out of the loop I wasn't even paying attention
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  to this so the Intel Mac Pros already have this like titanium think it's the
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  same case yeah I'm pretty sure it's the same case yeah that's why they didn't
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  make such a fuss about the case itself because I was surprised okay well that
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  makes sense because I was like oh that thing is beautiful but there you go it
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  already exists so that's why they didn't bother mentioning it so we had that we
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  had there 15-inch MacBook Air now which is quite you know it's a very nice
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  laptop I think the MacBook a is used to not really be able to run the operating
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  system that it held but that long l g to those days yeah
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  yeah it's got the same again it's the same processor in it yeah so it's it's
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  like they're insanely powerful and that 15inch MacBook a is probably the laptop
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  most people should get if you want a Mac yeah that's a pretty sick laptop so we
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  got that we got you know this new iOS
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  and yeah iOS 17 is going to block
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  dickpics I saw I saw that this was in here and okay so this is I guess based
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  on some tech that they announced a while back and then back backed out of cuz
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  people got upset about it cuz it was there was a period where they're talking
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  about how your phone was going to be able to tell if you had pix kids on
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  there and it was going to my phone nothing but pcks of kids on there I
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  think you I was I was trying to be uh a little but how's my phone gonna know
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  well apparently that's that's the thing is they were saying oh yeah no it won't
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  know for sure what it's going to do is there's going to be a database of hash
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  you know hashes which is you know an image at its raw data level the data
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  hashes of known Kitty porn images right and what it's going to do is if a if you
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  have a photo on your phone that looks like it might be one of those it what it
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  was going to do was just flick a little flag somewhere and if you get too many
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  of those flags flicked they weren't going to they weren't going to intervene
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  they wer look at your stuff or anything like that but they were going to notify
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  somebody somewhere that you've got a few Flags flipp maybe someone need to pop
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  around your house and have a look at your phone I love the fact that the AI
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  for this though is somebody has to show a whole bunch of kitty existing Kitty
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  porn and go to the AI to say this is not
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  okay well this is that's one of the things apparently the Facebook content
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  people had to do and then there was that whole big fuss about how they weren't
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  being paid very much to to have to go through that kind of [ __ ] my mate used
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  to work for Google back in the early or mid 2000s and that was his job to just
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  look at porn and just flag anything where it looked like the participants might be
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  underage [ __ ] hell I mean I guess what a job straight out of un right
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  because you can you can upload stuff to there right isn't so I guess they got to
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  do that too yeah yeah someone's got to do it but this looks a little different
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  because there was another thing that they were talking about where if if you
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  were a if you had a phone and it said you were underage I I don't know what
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  the cut off was but if it was it was a kid's phone and you got sent an image he
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  was kind of going to use AI to tell if that image was should not be looking
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  this yeah there's a lot skin on this photo you could set your kid's phone to
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  notify you if that happens I think and people again were like I don't know
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  about that a yeah as a parent I'm like
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  yep that's fine do that yes let me can I can understand why scenario generally
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  people find that morally ambiguous yeah yeah and then people saying like there's
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  there's a lot of room for abuse of that feature yeah to yeah so so they backed
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  that up and so this looks like sort of like that right I don't think this
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  blocks that it will just it will just kind of do what Reddit does if you've
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  got your not safe for work filter on it'll blur it and say do you really want
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  to see this this might be something new yeah so this is like a more step back
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  kind of casual version of that where you can say on my phone if you think it's a
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  dick just blur it so I don't have to look at it yeah yeah Dave could have
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  used this a few years ago when our friends I don't really get sent dicks
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  but I might put this on anyway just so I don't have to ever see them you
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  know I only want to see my own dick yeah
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  that's right and only from certain
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  angles but of course we digress cuz that's not the this is not the biggest
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  apple news the dickpic thing is not the biggest apple news of the week no this
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  there is one funny thing about this though this says optin bluring can be
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  applied to sensitive images sent in messages okay makes sense someone might
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  text you a dick air drop someone might try and airdrop you a dick contact
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  posters right this is a new feature that they they just put in where you can wave
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  your phone near someone else's phone and it'll add your phone number and a
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  picture of you picture of your dick who the [ __ ] is walk around doing that I
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  mean I guess it might if you are the kind of person who wants to walk around
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  forcing your contact details into women's phones you are also the kind of
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  person that has your profile picture as just a picture of your dick being out at
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  an event or something and they go oh you want to swap details yeah sure wave and then
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  just and I'm like yeah you like that yeah you're like sorry that don't
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  usually swap these with guys I didn't expect to just meet someone who could be
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  a friend yeah just that little that feature there made me laugh but yes
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  that's not the big news the bigger the technology in the world gets the the
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  more I just want to live in a cabin with with
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  nothing nothing but a VR headset oh well
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  look I'm excited about the direction this is going but I don't want this I
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  might consider version two of this yeah this thing looks clunky as hell so we're
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  talking about Apple Vision Pro if you haven't seen it I mean it's unlikely
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  you've probably seen this by now everyone talking about it yeah you
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  you've seen this it's the headset that Apple's making and yes I agree I got
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  very excited by the videos and then afterwards I was looking at it and I was
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  thinking well I've got to have that thing in my pocket with a cable and yeah
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  you know the battery only lasts two hours and it this feels like now is not
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  the time to buy one yeah I mean and they're talking about oh you can have
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  teams conferences and things and it's like yeah but will will everyone just
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  look like a giant fly with these big goggles on like well like yeah that's
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  the thing they didn't show that they didn't show the reverse angle in exactly
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  they they showed the person with the headset on sitting there seeing
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  everybody's little faces Flo in space having this great Mee what do you look
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  like what are they seeing yeah exactly yeah because it's on your face yeah
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  correct see you yeah yeah it's a bit weird they just didn't show it yeah yeah
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  look when they do a a version of this that looks just like a pair of glasses
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  or if it's a an augmented screen you can get put on your own glasses maybe then
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  maybe the thing the the killer thing for me right the thing when they showed this
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  I was like I [ __ ] want that is where you can be on a plane pop this on pop
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  your airpods in turn on noise cancellation turn that little dial and
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  suddenly I'm sat on the edge of a [ __ ] cliff yeah with a giant movie
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  screen in front of me just watching a movie and yeah not on a plane that would
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  be amazing yeah yeah exactly I'm no longer on a plane I'm they should call
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  that app not on a plane yeah that's that's sick yeah yeah for sure and I
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  like this is essentially Minority Report I mean not the actual precog [ __ ] but
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  just your hands yeah that's right it's screens in the air and you just brush
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  them around like now I can't walk up to you and look at the screens you're
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  looking at so that's it's one step removed from that but it you would feel
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  like that if you were the one controlling this but the thing about
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  this and someone said this because the um a couple of podcasters were at the
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  event and you couldn't uh touch any of this stuff but you could see the headset
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  and you could talk to the Apple employees and the thing about it is when
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  you watch all the videos the movements are very um not [ __ ] I guess is way you
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  know like in Minority Report you know he's waving his arms around and all that
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  kind of stuff but in reality that's exhausting oh yeah yeah yeah for sure so
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  the way this works is you look at stuff and and it literally just tracks what
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  your eyes looking at and then when your eye when you're looking at the thing you
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  want to pick you just tap your fingers together you give it a little you give
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  it a little finger tap and it goes y okay and it goes in interesting that's
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  like pretty amazing yeah that that is amazing if it works that's that's the
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  other thing too I'm skeptical about how smooth this will work I mean maybe no
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  but what's exciting about it is that this exists like imagine this 20 years
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  from now contact lenses that everyone's got on yes that's that's the yeah the
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  possibilities are what's exciting yeah and the other thing that's seems stupid
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  about it and I'm like there must be more to this is that yes it's got a battery
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  pack there's no battery at all in the headset because they said it's too heavy
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  fair enough so you've got to it's connected and it's got a MAG safe thing
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  up here so it connects here with a magnet but and then somebody apparently
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  confirmed with apple if you if that battery goes flat you're thinking oh I
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  could swap out another one yeah but there's no grace period you disconnect
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  that it turns off yeah and is it true if you die inside Apple Vision Pro you die
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  in real life is that true yeah no I just thought couldn't they put like a little
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  battery like 10 seconds to swap another one in or something like seems like a
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  weird oversight yeah version two of this is going to be great yeah yeah I mean
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  when people like you just described sitting there watching a a movie in in
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  like an augmented reality space Bas right but imagine that's still a 2d
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  plane that you're watching a movie imagine when they start creating content
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  specifically for this you'll be sitting in the movie yeah well they Bob Iger was
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  on stage at the the keynote and he said they're already working with apple on
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  new types of content yes like [ __ ] amazing yeah yeah oh the thing like when
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  you when you look at this listeners it looks like it's transparent and you and
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  it just kind of Pops fingers in front eyes it's not transparent that's a
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  screen yes that's true it's a it's a screen that's showing your eyes on the
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  outside you're not seeing through it you're it's the same as a you know like
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  current VR headset but it's it's fancier than that obviously but the thing is in
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  all the all the um videos they show people walking around and doing stuff
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  pop up and they're looking at stuff like that but again it's not transparent so
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  what you're seeing you're walking around is a video of it filming out and it's
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  real it's really what's there but it's a display of what's there on a screen yes
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  I don't know how that's actually gonna yeah that's interesting and feel you
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  know is it because it's not going to be full it's not like when I look around
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  now and I can just see everything in my vision is per like you know I've got
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  Vision that's not it's not going to be like no it'll it'll be a 2d
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  representation a screen that moves with your eyes you're watching a videoas
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  you're looking at yeah so I feel like it's like the invisible car in that dumb
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  James Bond movie that's just got tiny cameras projecting what's on the other
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  side of the car yes yeah yeah it's going to be weird I think weirder than they
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  make it seem in the videos it's got to be unless it's not Cas all right I mean
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  done I'd be very interested to pop one of these on I'll admit oh yeah and and
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  and just see how this is so they'll we have them in Apple Stores apparently oh
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  yeah the other thing to people are curious about is because it seems like
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  you can't wear glass with them so when you go into the App Store apparently the
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  way that you're going to want to buy one of these is to go into the store get
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  fitted because it's got custom seals and custom connectors and all that kind of
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  [ __ ] and custom lenses wow prescription they take your glasses they shine a
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  little light through and it tells them which one to yeah they've got some
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  device to do that I was like that's pretty sick that is great because
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  actually my like I wear glasses for up close so I would have to have these
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  augmented for you might not think that you would but it's literally a screen
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  like right in front you're going to need them yeah yeah it's interesting it's
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  interesting times and also they um it's augmented reality but it's not
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  what people usually think augmented reality is like a lot of people when you
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  say augmented reality the thing is I'm going to walk around and then when I
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  look at you it's going to pop up and say Daniel Miller yeah yeah yeah multiple
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  nerg gasm like and then like like the Terminator like the Terminator yeah
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  yeah this is not like that at all it's like yeah more yet yeah it's pretty cool
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  that you can apparently look at your laptop and then the display of your
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  laptop just kind of flies up into the air above it and then you're just
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  looking at what's on your laptop in there in space yeah that's right yeah
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  like I I really got to try it to know if it's actually that good it's pretty
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  exciting though oh yeah the other thing some eagle-eyed uh viewers on the
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  internet have spotted that in videos and
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  uh photos they show uh they've got a USB dongle of some sort hooked up to this
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  thing that they have not mentioned what that is so it's just like yeah be
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  interesting so maybe there's more going on you know I talked about you know it
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  getting unplugged or whatever maybe there's more possibility there than we
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  know about yet y if you can hook a USB cable up to it kind of thing yeah sorry
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  my my fans going nuts I'm just
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  GNA pop a book under here or something
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  sorry listeners some slight technical difficulties there that you will not
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  have experienced no uh if you wondering if this conversation doesn't happen to
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  flow quite as fluidly as we always do that's
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  why um did you end up getting your deposit back for your cyber truck yeah I
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  did yeah yeah and I'm yeah I'm not regretting that uh particularly after
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  this week when some leaked report from Tesla has shown that it's got a lot of
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  problems that's why they haven't made it yet because yeah I mean
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  man honestly if the prices of Teslas haven't come way way down I'll be
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  surprised I think I mean they are they were cheap and then I think they went
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  back up again but they they're [ __ ] expensive here you're basically looking
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  at 100 grand for your base model Australia yeah okay I think you get a
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  model 3 for about 40 Grand here yeah mind you 40 Grand American is I mean are
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  you two to one at the moment it's you know yeah well and see now the Cyber
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  truck being delayed so much and then again this report saying that it's
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  because it's it just uh was it had problems with braking handling noise and
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  it leaked leaking yeah that's not good
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  no uh and already Ford and Chevy are
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  produc are in production on their electric trucks like the F-150 Lightning
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  looks pretty sick so yeah I am man look I'm not in a hurry to go electric
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  although there are incentives to go electric now um coming out here uh if I
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  was going to go electric I'd go the poar too it's great yeah they look like
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  spaceships from the and that's Jam yep yeah that's kind of
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  like I mean the Cyber truck had that sort of vibe where it was very rety
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  looking but I mean I prefer one that doesn't leak it doesn't leak yeah yeah
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  the PO Stars don't leak as far as I know yeah yeah so I mean over here they've
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  given pretty aggressive deadlines for not selling any new gas powered cars
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  anyway right so oh yeah sure yeah eventually I don't know exactly when
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  Rhode Island said but um yeah pretty pretty aggressive on that now so mhm mhm
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  part of agenda 2030 I think oh yeah well we could talk about that if you want I
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  don't have anything else to say I'm all for it know anything about
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  it yeah well all right rip cyber truck you you may we may never even see you
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  yeah it's not looking good yeah it's a shame could have been really cool yeah I
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  don't know Elon I mean the man was interesting at one point and now I find
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  him whatever the opposite of interesting uninteresting yeah it's so an like I
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  know I genuinely used to think he was pretty cool and now I'm like oh I don't
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  anymore no I'll go out of my way not to hear him talk now yeah I know it's
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  almost like like someone points out do you know how many how many years in a
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  row he said full self-driving probably be in the next six months and it's like
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  he's been saying that since 2013 and it's like yeah you're right I just
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  didn't notice at the time for some reason yeah he just always got me hyped
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  up we drank the Kool-Aid yeah yeah I guess there were probably people out
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  there who I know there are people out there I [ __ ] told you yeah yeah yeah
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  it's like Steve Jobs with his reality Distortion field yes yeah that's right
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  yeah I mean there were always people going you know Steve Jobs isn't really a
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  tech guy he's a marketing guy that's true though like I mean to a degree he
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  he he wasn't complete idiot but he was yeah yeah if you hear the stories inside
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  actually how the Macintosh got made the very first Macintosh it was despite
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  Steve Jobs yes that's right and if Steve Jobs hadn't met was there would be no
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  apple right and because jobs insisted uh it used the stupid disc drives from the
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  Lisa that were garbage and he only wanted to to have I forget exactly how
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  much a useless amount of ram that the very first gen of Mac had but the
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  engineers were smart enough to to know we're gonna need to put more RAM in this
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  thing let's make it so that it's really easy to do that yeah because people are
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  gonna want that
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  yeah ah Apple yeah uh Reddit this week
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  oh yeah not this week I guess this this this last month or so have just been
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  aggressively stupid in my opinion yeah they really seem to be trying their
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  absolute hardest to run this company into the ground so odd so the latest
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  thing there's a Reddit app on iOS called Apollo which is very good I did used to
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  use it for a while but I just I just stopped because I don't use Reddit
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  enough to justify paying for an app was really the reason I was like I can just
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  see the ads on them the their app uh and I guess that's what they want because
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  they've done a Twitter and they said well what they did was I guess a couple
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  of months ago they emailed all the developers of third party apps including
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  this guy Christian who makes Apollo and said we're going to start charging for
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  API access mhm and was like fair enough you know that's fair you know we're
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  using it for free makes sense and they said you know we'll communicate with you
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  there'll be a you know work together to get it all sorted out that kind of thing
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  and everything seemed like it was all right and then uh the other last week I
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  think they said here's the pricing and he did the math and he realized I'm GNA
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  have to pay these guys $20 million a month
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  yeah and then he he said um that's not happening that's not gonna happen and
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  they're like oh that's a shame [ __ ] you [ __ ] you basically so wow so he's he's
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  now he's just had to come out and say well I get June because it starts first
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  of July to do this he said I'm got to shut the gap down apps are going to stop
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  working on the first of first of July sorry it's not possible and not only
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  that I'll link to the the Reddit post that he put up about it um it's quite
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  interesting because he because he's in Canada and he had a feeling things were
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  going to go a bit sideways he recorded the phone calls because he had phone
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  calls with even I think the the the guy who runs Reddit even like he had some he
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  recorded all the calls John Reddit yeah John Reddit and then that Reddit came
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  out and said that he he was threatening them to like and and and all this kind
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  of stuff and he he said well here's the phone call and I know what he's
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  referring to yeah you tell me what you think he misheard me and then
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  apologized for for thinking that it was a right gu that's the only thing I can
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  think he's talking about so anyway it's just it just Reddit just looks like [ __ ]
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  in this yeah that's a shame because I like Reddit for for things yeah it's
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  useful well not I guess reddit's not useful the people on Reddit are useful
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  and to be clear not all of them no no a certain amount of curation is required
• 24:50
  to uh but like there are there are subreddits that I get a lot of value
• 24:55
  from absolutely yeah like once you find a good subreddit like that's a that
• 24:59
  could be a really I'm on the blue subred every day to just hear Americans go do
• 25:03
  they really say dollar bucks in Australia and you're like yep uhhuh yeah
• 25:08
  absolutely can I can I air what do you guys pay with what you pay with doll
• 25:13
  dues yeah that's right um my wife works for prime Amazon
• 25:19
  Prime and they they advertise on Reddit um and I don't mind ads on Reddit so
• 25:24
  long as they look like ads what I don't like is when they try to disguise
• 25:29
  himself as just posts yes and I really have a problem with that because it
• 25:35
  makes me concentrate on it way more than I want to I should have the ability to
• 25:41
  ignore if I want yeah exactly lately for some reason I don't know if it's just me
• 25:46
  listeners if you get this let let me know I don't know if anybody listeners
• 25:50
  even use Reddit I get religious posts religious advertisements I get literally
• 25:56
  get posts about I forget the name it's it links to a certain subreddit and it's
• 26:01
  just all about how like Jesus loved you do you love him
• 26:04
  wow I'm like really vote wow it's just so I'm like what do you show me that for
• 26:10
  is it and I wonder if is it because because I don't think I'm in the the the
• 26:16
  atheist subreddit on Reddit is quite famous because it's got a bunch of knobs
• 26:21
  in it so I'm not I'm as far as I'm aware I'm I'm not in that sub to that because
• 26:26
  they they annoy me as well yeah only thing more self-righteous than religious
• 26:30
  people are atheists like yeah if you're newly like freed of
• 26:35
  religion I can't no thanks yeah exactly like I get it but like nah yeah it's
• 26:41
  it's not as interesting I know I agree with you but simmer down a bit I know
• 26:46
  that you're very excited yeah especially if you live in a country like America
• 26:51
  where it's just taken for granted that there is a Jesus and that you know he
• 26:55
  carries you on the beach Etc it's like a it's like a conspiracy theory of sorts
• 27:00
  and so I I get it but but they are tedious yes like and then and also
• 27:05
  people who go out and just try and start fights with just don't do that yeah not
• 27:10
  into that stuff yeah you do you right that's fine so anyway I wondered if it was
• 27:16
  because of that but it's like no I don't think I'm in any of those because like
• 27:18
  annoy me so that's quite funny actually maybe I wonder if that's I was
• 27:25
  going to say I wonder if that's because you've been looking at like debunk
• 27:29
  conspiracy theory type stuff but thises this I have been would we talk about
• 27:35
  that be the opposite of that you would be more likely to get yeah but we can we
• 27:40
  can lean into that if you if you'd like I know you've got some uh some followup
• 27:45
  yeah so I I talked last week about how I was trying to find stuff on the pyramids
• 27:49
  and whatnot and I kept getting you know conspir you know aent aliens and that
• 27:53
  kind of thing and you mentioned grahe Hancock and I do know of grahe Han
• 27:56
  because he had that um gockley tee do on Netflix that yeah is he reckons it's a
• 28:02
  100,000 years old and it was built by and the the lava tubes inside of it are
• 28:08
  actually secret Chambers not lava tubes which would make more sense yeah yeah
• 28:12
  yeah yeah that's right the thing the thing that the thing that he gets wrong
• 28:17
  that they don't that don't don't give anything abroad because there's one
• 28:21
  where he's in Indonesia and he's like these shapes of rocks could not possibly
• 28:25
  be man not manmade they can't can't possibly be naturally occurring and then
• 28:30
  you have all these geologists go no that's exactly how volcanic rock
• 28:34
  naturally occurs like it does it does form geometric shapes yeah well so so
• 28:41
  now I guess because I was kind of trying to get that kind of you know I said I
• 28:45
  looked up debunk specifically to try and find out yeah like hang on a minute you
• 28:50
  can't just look up facts now you have to look up antifa debunk yeah yeah yeah
• 28:54
  yeah so and so now I guess YouTube knows oh you want that stuff so now it's been
• 28:59
  sh yeah a bunch of and I've actually found some really good channels there's
• 29:02
  a guy Milo minman I think his channel is he's like a he's he's in his early 20s
• 29:07
  he's an archaeologist and he he he's does some interesting stuff and he's got
• 29:11
  one on Graham Hancock that I watched a bit of and that was quite good um but
• 29:16
  now I get tons and tons of particularly anti- Graham hanock because I think he's
• 29:20
  got a bunch of Netflix specials unfortunately yeah yeah he's got a new
• 29:24
  one but it's it's not his first there's he's been writing books since the 80s
• 29:28
  and I thought there was an interview with a a guy who's uh listeners for
• 29:32
  those of you who don't know this is the guy who wants to convince you Atlantis
• 29:35
  is real yeah his whole his whole shtick
• 29:38
  and like I can't tell if he's serious or
• 29:42
  if it's a if it's grift if it's a grift then he is like committed to it but then
• 29:48
  there's stuff like there's a guy it was an interview I think the guy's like a I
• 29:52
  don't know if he's a geologist or if he's like a or archaeologist or a bit of
• 29:56
  both some some legit science a scientist yeah yeah who was intervie first he was
• 30:01
  approached asked if he would be interviewed for a show didn't know it
• 30:04
  was grahe hanok because he knows who he is agreed to do it got there Graham
• 30:09
  Hancock interviewed him but they only filmed this guy they didn't film right
• 30:13
  Graham Hancock and they he Graham hanock asked him questions and he answered them
• 30:19
  then they shuffled him off and later filmed Graham Hancock's bit and He
• 30:26
  adjusted adjusted the questions yeah and so the guy was like and he said
• 30:31
  it was annoying because he said he was really nice he was really Charming he
• 30:34
  was a really cool guy and he left thinking maybe I was wrong about him and
• 30:38
  then he walk to doco and he was like
• 30:40
  [ __ ] you wow yeah yeah wow oh man
• 30:46
  because it wouldn't take much to just skew that that's funny I remember do you
• 30:49
  remember daa Brahma from home and away or yeah I played with him once
• 30:54
  at so I've never met him right but he had this afternoon talk show at one
• 30:59
  point when once he left whatever sitcom he was on um so Home Away originally
• 31:06
  home away I think yeah but he had this afternoon kind of talk show where he
• 31:09
  interviewed he went around interviewing people but I got stopped on the street
• 31:13
  once just by this woman with a clipboard and she goes oh can I ask you a couple
• 31:17
  of questions for a show I'm I'm like yeah sure answered her questions
• 31:20
  suddenly I'm getting interviewed by daa BR like they've edited to look like he
• 31:24
  was there asking me questions but I've never met him yeah just met a producer
• 31:29
  that's so funny yeah it's kind of dodgy how they do that I mean not kind of
• 31:33
  dodgy it's literally dodgy yeah it's fraud but yeah but at least at least
• 31:37
  this they just refilmed him asking the same questions she asked he wasn't ske
• 31:41
  the questions to say uh to make me sound like I was agreeing with him on anything
• 31:48
  that was the night the night that I it was at pioner tabn he was
• 31:54
  there he was there and um what's her name Delta goodam was there oh and we
• 32:00
  used to tell Dave Delta goodam was places to try and get him to come out
• 32:05
  yeah yeah it's just because he had a crush on her [ __ ] loved her and then
• 32:09
  that night she was there and he didn't believe me was the boy who cried
• 32:15
  Del that's marvelous yeah I met her once she came into this into the HMV I was
• 32:20
  working I've heard this story it's not a good story no I mean you you come out of
• 32:24
  it all right I think right it's your co-workers that
• 32:28
  a just let's not even go there yeah fair enough um so on on the subject of
• 32:35
  Netflix we're getting booted from Jenna's parents Netflix right yeah as
• 32:42
  expected due to the password thing and we speculated that this might go
• 32:46
  sideways for Netflix that people might just get the shits apparently that's not
• 32:51
  the case and they've had a big flood of subscribers people want their Netflix so
• 32:57
  we'll see how it goes long term but it apparently maybe it's
• 33:01
  working look I'll say this about Netflix
• 33:04
  I think Netflix is the most intuitive and solid interface out of all the
• 33:11
  streaming platforms mhm and it has I have one complaint and I'll get to it
• 33:15
  later I've got a few complaints but okay I've got complaints about all of them
• 33:19
  but it's the least [ __ ] out of all of them is kind of what I'm saying and it
• 33:24
  has enough content and I have enough of a desire to not want to change between
• 33:29
  platforms mhm I'm talking almost exclusively kids content here too
• 33:34
  because I don't watch anything now it's all my daughter you watch bluee but yeah
• 33:39
  if she but here's the thing I will go to ivie for Bluey and I will go nowhere
• 33:43
  else I will not go to Disney plus unless I really have to because it is garbage
• 33:48
  that platform is garbage sure I would rather just stay on Netflix because it's
• 33:53
  easier if I had to delete all but one it' be Netflix that I'd keep you know
• 33:58
  just because it's the least [ __ ] out of all of them I have my pet peeves with
• 34:03
  video streaming apps right so I use an Apple TV and I really like my Apple TV
• 34:07
  it work iPhone it works very well I know not everybody's into Apple I've got
• 34:10
  Apple everything and it works really well except Netflix
• 34:15
  intentionally doesn't do any of that and they they don't no Netflix Stuff shows
• 34:20
  up in the in the native search on Apple TV normally on Apple TV if I go to just
• 34:24
  go to the home screen I go search I can search for a something TV show and it
• 34:29
  will tell me if it's in any of the apps that I have except Netflix it does not
• 34:35
  and you can just play like it'll it'll just show up like a normal search result
• 34:38
  and you can just play it straight away no that one episode of it it'll show up
• 34:42
  in my com in my whats up next on my home Little T everything that I really like
• 34:47
  the interface Netflix intentionally used to work with that and then they were
• 34:51
  like [ __ ] you Apple for some reason over like the 30% I assume some nonsense so
• 34:56
  they exclude everything from that so now what I have to do is search if it's not
• 35:01
  there I go I'll open Netflix search in there the other thing that shits me I
• 35:05
  don't think Netflix does this oh maybe Netflix does but their players all right
• 35:09
  when a streaming service comes out and they go I know that Apple provides a
• 35:15
  very good video player because they know how to make those we'll Implement our
• 35:20
  own don't [ __ ] do that right because yours is not gonna work properly and
• 35:24
  it's gonna piss me off be very good yeah like I don't want to pause a movie go to
• 35:29
  get a drink or something come back hit play and then suddenly I'm like 30
• 35:33
  minutes later in the thing or it's like skip back or it's like crashed or just
• 35:38
  use the stuff that they give you please that's why I I hate so Netflix is my
• 35:43
  default I'll go to IV view for Bluey and I if I just switch to the iew app it'll
• 35:48
  just bring up Bluey because that's where I left off it knows I've got I've got my
• 35:52
  own problems with it because it it auto plays from the most recent episode not
• 35:57
  the least most recent which means you end up watching the same ones over and
• 36:00
  over okay okay sure which I don't like but if you go to Disney you've got to go
• 36:05
  to the login every time I me you don't have to type in your password but it
• 36:08
  goes to the home screen every time and then you've got to scroll to whatever
• 36:12
  you want or search for whatever you want it it doesn't help you it doesn't hold
• 36:15
  your hand and take you where it knows you want to go so on the Apple TV Disney
• 36:19
  plus will just say do you want to watch on the home screen there'll be a TI that
• 36:23
  says do you want to watch the next blue or whatever although that's useless now
• 36:26
  because we've literally watched all of them so it doesn't know yeah it doesn't
• 36:30
  know what what to do yeah yeah yeah there was this one and I don't know why
• 36:36
  it was doing this but you know you know how on Netflix and others probably do
• 36:39
  this too but I've only noticed on Netflix just before it gets to the
• 36:42
  credits it'll bring up your your little prompt to go to the next episode and you
• 36:46
  can kind of skip to it early yep sometimes on Netflix that'll come up halfway through a
• 36:53
  program so there's one particular thing that I'm talking about so there's this
• 36:56
  show it's the pink Fong Dance Workout right again I'm talking about content is
• 37:03
  it's baby shark make so Dance Workout is there's kids that mime along and
• 37:09
  dance choreograph dances to a dozen or so pink fun songs right if you go to the
• 37:16
  menu uh each episode is 20 minutes long right if you click on one individual
• 37:22
  episode The playhead along the bottom
• 37:26
  will be 10 minutes long half when you approach that 10 minutes it'll come up
• 37:33
  skip credits if you click no it'll play
• 37:37
  10 more minutes if you don't it'll skip to the next episode after half the show
• 37:43
  only has played is that some thing where it's like it's trying to give you an out
• 37:47
  as a parent yeah maybe but I need it to [ __ ] stay
• 37:52
  on no I need it to stay on yeah pink
• 37:56
  Fong it's such a mixed bag of content oh
• 38:00
  yeah because I find I know I I used to say never baby shark never baby shar's
• 38:05
  not so bad I'll be honest yeah it's not actually not that bad because lra loves
• 38:10
  doing the dance kind stuff I'm like yeah I it yeah whatever some of their stuff
• 38:13
  I'm like oh yeah what is this [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah there's one on the dance K
• 38:19
  Dance Workout because sometimes it's just an adult in the dance as well which
• 38:23
  is just odd right they just don't ever need to be there but there's this one
• 38:26
  about washing hair and like they're not nude or anything so like don't freak out
• 38:31
  but like they're in the shower washing their hair and stuff and it's a cartoon
• 38:35
  shower but it's two little kids and an adult and it's like get him out of there
• 38:41
  don't have him in this one don't have him in the one where the little kids are
• 38:45
  in the shower sure yeah there's there's one uh she wanted up on today because
• 38:51
  she watched baby shark and then this the next one that came on was um it's the
• 38:56
  same basically the same song as baby shark in like a different key but it's
• 39:01
  an elephant and the lyrics are elephant Hakuna Matata except that would be
• 39:06
  copyright infringement yeah so it's
• 39:11
  elephant like and it's like what is this [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah I haven't seen that
• 39:16
  I have seen baby TT T to T-Rex I've seen that
• 39:20
  one and I've seen monkey B but I've seen
• 39:24
  monkey B but and then I'm like that's that's stupid and then I remind myself
• 39:30
  baby shark is also stupid it's all stupid yeah it's just that I've heard it
• 39:33
  so many times that it it's just what it is now there's one that annoys me and it
• 39:38
  shouldn't annoy me right and I but I I there's ones about animals right and
• 39:43
  there's just a whole one about animals and I I like it learning about animals I
• 39:46
  like it watching animals and animals are good for kids because they get excited
• 39:49
  when they see an elephant they go elephant you know they like that but
• 39:52
  clearly they've just had Wikipedia open and they're just putting in facts about
• 39:56
  animals from wikip but there's this one about a skunk it's
• 40:00
  not even about a skunk each verse is about a different there's but one vers
• 40:04
  about a skunk and how he farts and it's like no that's not why skunks smell it's
• 40:09
  not cuz they just flatulent like that's just not a fact that's just not true
• 40:15
  just it's a defensive mechanism if we going to write about a just go write it
• 40:21
  properly like teach them facts yeah it'll spray you if you piss it off yeah
• 40:27
  that's that's right yeah it is a extremely successful evolutionary
• 40:31
  defense mechanism they [ __ ] stink do they yeah uh unfortunately most of the
• 40:38
  time when I smell skunk it's because one's been hit on the highway right but
• 40:43
  that smell is like yeah and it's it's like oh God it's not on my car is it
• 40:47
  because that's going to smell for months yeah right yeah it's really bad no
• 40:50
  thankfully I never have such an American problem to have mhm yeah I was going to
• 40:55
  ask you I've been on the beach family of skunks come along oh really
• 41:00
  see that sounds cute unless you have no it was but you just don't get too close
• 41:03
  cuz the M fart on you I thought you
• 41:07
  start have you put chains on your tires is that a thing you have to do so I may
• 41:13
  need to get some for Vermont because the um the the atlas we have is not
• 41:20
  four-wheel drive and it had some trouble on some roads last time we were up there
• 41:25
  it's not I mean it's not a huge deal it might be worth getting some just in case
• 41:29
  interesting because that's un American thing too but I uh people literally
• 41:34
  change their tires you get like the ones that are on there are all season but you
• 41:38
  can get winter ones or you can get just chains that fit
• 41:43
  over regular the chains are more yeah chains are more like that an old
• 41:48
  fashioned practical because you can just no no no no no you can get them it's
• 41:51
  just the the the state that you're in will have a law around probably what
• 41:56
  time period you can use like you couldn't just like use them drive down
• 41:58
  the street middle of summer te up the roads homo just rips up the road take
• 42:04
  them off yeah yeah yeah I think within the months of whatever you're allowed to
• 42:08
  use them okay yeah because I'm reading a book I just finished reading a book said
• 42:12
  in Colorado uh and everyone who drives is talking about chains on their tires
• 42:17
  and I'm like oh no I I probably will get some for the just in case yeah we don't
• 42:23
  have to lean into it but I'll just I'll just quickly mention that the book that
• 42:26
  I've just read I I don't know how I've never read this before with all the
• 42:30
  Stephen King books I've read over the years i' never read The Shining sh until
• 42:35
  this week The Shining um have you read this have you actually read this I read
• 42:40
  it as a like a teenager so I don't really remember that's when I mind yeah
• 42:45
  so that's the thing so that's when I read most of my Stephen King books right
• 42:49
  and then and now there's enough movie adaptations to keep us going you know um
• 42:55
  this is one of the unique situations where the book is very very good and the
• 42:59
  movie is very very good mhm but actually they're also quite dissimilar in many
• 43:04
  ways um I think I like the book more than the movie uh although I love the
• 43:10
  movie it's one of my favorite movies it's it's bizarre in ways the book is
• 43:15
  not bizarre and the weird thing is it mostly the Str yeah the strangeness is
• 43:20
  in the casting um and the thing is if if you read The Shining the book there's no
• 43:26
  way you would cast Jack Nicholson in an adaptation of
• 43:30
  it but in this version there's no one else but Jack Nicholson that could pull
• 43:35
  this off you know what I mean because it requires an insane person like in the
• 43:39
  book I mean this is I guess this is a spoiler in the book the hotel itself
• 43:45
  makes Jack Torrance go insane you know it haunts him until he becomes insane
• 43:51
  and becomes dangerous yeah in the movie he's just a dangerous lunatic who
• 43:57
  happens to get a job at a hotel that's haunted yes and it yeah pushes him over
• 44:01
  the head yeah and in the same way in the book his wife is a regular strong willed
• 44:08
  um mother looking after her son and and doing all in the book in in the film
• 44:13
  she's just hysterical weakling right from the
• 44:18
  start and correct me if I'm wrong Danny's powers are more explicit in the
• 44:23
  book too he has he has speciic he just a
• 44:25
  psychic yeah and not only that um I did not realize so if if you watch the movie
• 44:32
  and you go they don't explain a lot just read the book they just tell you
• 44:36
  everything all these Mysteries everyone's like who let Jack out of the
• 44:39
  freezer in the book there's just a chapter of him getting LED out of the
• 44:42
  freezer and it's very explicit who let him Tony the imaginary friend that Danny
• 44:49
  um do you remember who that is no okay so in the movie they never say it's just
• 44:54
  a a boy who lives in his mouth that sometimes hides in his stomach right yes
• 44:58
  yes Tony is Danny as an adult using The
• 45:02
  Shining to to his self and warn him about the Overlook right which is why he
• 45:08
  gets all those don't go there stuff I I can understand why kubri didn't want to
• 45:12
  make that explicit yeah you and there's a few things where it's like okay I
• 45:17
  understand why he wanted this a bit more ambiguous for a film because evidently
• 45:21
  also when they asked for the rights stepen King also said actually I've got
• 45:25
  a screenplay right here for you that's basically just verba him the book and
• 45:29
  was like we're not going to use that I'm writing my
• 45:32
  own which is also the partly the reason why Stephen King hates the film yeah no
• 45:38
  I get that too because it's not what he wanted yeah but there's also some
• 45:43
  bizarre um consistencies between them that they just don't go into like in the
• 45:48
  book The Novel that Jack is writing is a novel about the Overlook it's it's a
• 45:53
  book about the history of the Overlook Hotel and there's this whole big plot
• 45:58
  point where he discovers a scrapbook in
• 46:00
  the basement which is all of the secrets about the Overlook all just laid out for
• 46:07
  him right and the hotel put that there purposely for him to find right so he
• 46:11
  knew all this stuff sure in the movie they don't mention any of that but on
• 46:15
  the desk next to him when he's typing is a scrapbook right that's just not
• 46:19
  mentioned but it's clearly just a detail from the book yeah yeah maybe yeah maybe
• 46:24
  you got shot and it never made it also possible too is that they were going to
• 46:28
  they were going to include and they just didn't and then it's just a detail now
• 46:32
  fascina but I love the movie I watched the movie last night again after I
• 46:36
  finished the book I went straight back and watched the movie um they're great
• 46:40
  companion pieces to one another really because it's just it's an interpretation
• 46:43
  it's like listening to a band do a cover of a song you like in a different style
• 46:48
  that you also like that style of yeah totally yeah I think yeah Stephen King
• 46:53
  ad adaptations are were so hit and miss I mean they still
• 46:57
  there' been some really good ones like U Gerald's Game on Netflix was very good
• 47:02
  Yes actually a lot of the Netflix ones that 1922 on Netflix was very oh yeah
• 47:06
  with Thomas Jane yeah that was good yeah um yeah the early ones like for example
• 47:11
  one of my favorite Stephen King books because I read it when I was young and
• 47:13
  it really appealed to me was The Dark Half yes and the movie of that is
• 47:19
  [ __ ] awful and best forgotten yeah but I was very excited when when I
• 47:24
  learned there was a movie until I watched it and like uh the Lang is very
• 47:29
  famous yes because of the special effects at the end yes [ __ ] [ __ ] H
• 47:35
  because that well that's another that's another criticism a lot of people level
• 47:39
  at Stephen King himself was is that his books tend to start very very well and
• 47:45
  taper off at the end but langal is one of the rare cases where the quality of
• 47:50
  film making starts off quite good and then tapers off towards the end yeah
• 47:54
  he's in it at the end he is yeah he's in quite a few of his adaptations he pops
• 47:58
  up yeah Stephen King's interesting in that because I'm assuming you've read on
• 48:02
  writing his book about no I never have actually a you should read it it's good
• 48:06
  yeah maybe I should yeah but he talks about how he is that where he quotes
• 48:10
  that he's the burger and fries of the litery over probably the thing I always
• 48:15
  remember about he doesn't use those words because I don't think he uses the
• 48:17
  word literally over but there's two things that always that that I remember
• 48:23
  from from from that always and one is one is that he always gets asked what
• 48:26
  kind of pencils he uses and he's like it's a [ __ ] stupid question like the
• 48:31
  using the same pencil as me is not going to help you be a better writer amazing
• 48:35
  and he said this people's obsessions with the tools people use really annoys
• 48:39
  him and the other thing yeah because it's true I there's it is interesting to
• 48:46
  learn how people do things on that level like that Lit literally how do you do it
• 48:52
  I find it interesting but he is right just because I go and buy the same piece
• 48:57
  of paper you if I go by the yellow notepads that George Lucas yeah you'll
• 49:02
  be able toide Star Wars exactly Matt find out what [ __ ] paintbrushes
• 49:06
  Picassa used will be rich exactly and the other thing is he has this whole
• 49:11
  thing about how he doesn't outline he literally just sits down and writes
• 49:17
  because he sees it as believe
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  that exactly yeah right but he said and but even the the way he describes he
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  says you the story guide him towards the end a sculptor just there's a statue
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  David's in there and the scul just finding him and I'm like shs away the
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  bits that aren't d That's not how sculpting Works Mr King and that's also
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  I guess I'm like if that's how you feel it when you're write fine but that's not
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  how it works you're making it up it's not there and you're discovering you're
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  making it up you're deciding what comes next after you've written the first bit
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  Yeah because he said he's outlining and it it never worked in because one of the
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  actually one of the stories I think it's in that book he talks about the stand
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  and how he literally just got stuck right had no idea what was gonna happen
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  walked away from it for months and then suddenly one day got the I think the he
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  was like oh a nuke yeah and then like came back and and then yeah and that's
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  why when you read the stand you're like well I came out of [ __ ]
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  nowhere cuz he he didn't work in it for six months and then he was like oh I got
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  an idea mate I reckon he must have done that with um
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  is it dream catcher which I love oh yeah with the aliens show up at the end yeah
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  okay but the aliens show up halfway through it's not an alien book right it
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  starts off friends friends go to a cabin as they do every year and commiserate
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  the fact that one of them is dead yeah they you get the feeling yeah that maybe
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  they killed him yeah and then halfway through [ __ ] that guess what aliens
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  aliens also one of the kids now possessed by the aliens yeah so yeah that's the other
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  thing I always remember that and always think of it when I think of the ones
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  that go off the rails that's why yeah but yeah if that's how he is able to do
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  it well oh yeah whatever I mean the man's prolific he write he wrote so many
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  books that his publisher start started refusing to publish them even though
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  they were all Best Sellers and so he had to write them under an assumed name for a
• 51:18
  bit that's funny did you watch the second part that's what the dark half is
• 51:23
  about the dark half the plot of The Dark Half is about as anthor
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  who writes novels and no one likes them but then he writes under a pseudonym yes
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  yes and and everyone loves those books but he feels like he doesn't know where
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  those stories come from and he finds out he had he's a [ __ ] what do they call
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  the the the twin that got absorbed into his he has like an eyeball in his brain
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  and book book is amazing he writes a lot of books about that there's Secret
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  Window I forget what that's the movie but I don't think the book's called that
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  I think they changed the name from the short story but there's um that's about
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  an author who doesn't know if he's plagiarized his books or not yeah okay I
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  remember um what's his name is very good in that by the
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  wayo Yeah cuz he's a [ __ ] psychopath but you don't know if he's real or not
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  because he just starts showing up to Johnny Depp saying you stole my novel
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  and he's like I don't think I did but then he's like did I did I and did I
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  murder my wife that's right did you murder your wife or did I murder my wife
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  I can't remember yeah yeah either way I think there's a woman buried outside one
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  of us has done something one of has got a wife outside did you watch the second
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  part of it the um the recent it yes was it any good I've been told it's not I
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  liked it it it is what it is yeah I liked it it it's problematic separating
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  the two timelines anyway because the whole point of the book it is that you
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  see not flashbacks but you you are informed of the present by what happened
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  in the past and the scenes of juxtaposed we're taking all the kid stuff and
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  putting it in one episode and all the adult stuff putting it in another
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  episode I understand why you would do that but you you get robbed of that
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  symmetry when when you do that yeah it goes a bit off the rails at the end yeah
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  to be honest yeah book as well I I still love it because it's it's got so much
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  good stuff in there I did see a funny AR I was going to say there was a funny
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  argu on Twitter because someone was saying oh they changed it and they're
• 53:28
  like what bits you talking about oh you know what at the end they Chang and then
• 53:32
  someone was like sorry were you expecting in the year 2021 or whenever
• 53:36
  that came out that they were going to literally film a child orgy Stephen King
• 53:41
  wrote that in the book for some reason back in the80s and listeners for context
• 53:45
  the kids are in a sewer and they think they're about to die there's one girl
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  and she knows they all the boys have crushes on her so she like lets them all
• 53:55
  have a go it's weird but it is kind of in context cuz
• 54:00
  there is this weird sexual undertone to the whole thing cuz of there's just like
• 54:05
  these pubescent teenagers who are scared of ghost but also want to [ __ ] this girl
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  but they definitely were not going to put that in the movie no 100% we're not
• 54:16
  going to put that in the movie in any adaptation I don't think that's in the
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  miniseries from the 80s either is it no no no no I'm sure it's not no it's been
• 54:23
  a long time since I've seen that did they separate the kid story the adult
• 54:26
  story into separate episodes in that well it was a miniseries though so it
• 54:29
  was kind of like I mean when you I think when you watch it now it's the same it's
• 54:33
  like smushed together because it just it's just one big movie because you
• 54:36
  watch it one after the other yeah yeah yeah with Tim Curry as Pennywise only
• 54:41
  one of them supposed to see the clown because only one of them scared of
• 54:45
  clowns yes yeah that's my biggest problem with every adaptation is the
• 54:50
  clown was too scary became too iconic and just became embedded in that story
• 54:55
  it's just about a scary clown it's not whatever you fear he appears to you as
• 55:00
  that yeah yeah one of them sees a wealth one of them sees the Leer uh because his
• 55:06
  mom's a germaphobe so he sees a leper after him when I see Penny wise I just
• 55:11
  see my dad really disappointed in me why aren't you a
• 55:16
  linguist a professor of linguistics I was so specific Denny I
• 55:21
  was so specific um how long have we been talking we' got 40 minutes on here I
• 55:27
  think we had 20 minutes on the other one right all right sure and we're at well
• 55:31
  I'll just put a quick shout out before we move on to the after party diabl 4 is
• 55:35
  good check it out is it okay I probably will I probably will yeah it's I don't
• 55:41
  see why I wouldn't like it like all the others I I Jenna wanted to play it so I
• 55:45
  got it and I was like I'll give it a go as well and I was like oh this is fun
• 55:49
  and I'm like is it just me and I looked up and then online and everyone's like
• 55:52
  no no this is this is good this is a good game okay all right okay okay got
• 55:57
  that that game Loop going okay well listeners the journey ends here unless
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• 56:12
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• 56:17
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• 56:20
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• 56:25
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