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- Jonathan: Welcome mortals to the Fantasy Football War Council's podcast. Here are your Gods of War, Jonathan Arsen, Mario and Daniel. Hello and welcome to another meeting of the Fantasy Football War Council. I'm your God of War, Jonathan, and as always, I have the brothers Grim, Daniel, and Mario. I spent so much time talking to Mario last week telling him it was his last time that you he's not champ anymore and all that. That I didn't even say your name at the intro, Daniel. I just realized Swag's editing. Absolute garbage on my part. Yeah, I was there. I was there. Yeah, sounds right. So ⁓ well, hey, episode 184. Look at us strolling along ⁓ in season six. I love it, our sixth year of the pond. Daniel: ⁓ yeah. That's okay. I was there. I know it. It's okay. Not Last McGeee: I'm sorry. Present. Jonathan: ⁓ hey, we got just a bunch of news and then ⁓ just some talking points that ⁓ Mario threw in today. I love all these talking points. It's gonna get us going. And then there's even I see a rumor to talk about, a couple rumors. We have two or three rumors, and then the possibility, if we're not over time, of a listener question. So ⁓ let's jump into it. Let's jump into it. Daniel: right, yeah, this had to be the first bit of news, didn't it? Bucky could be back in six months. He had off season shoulder surgery because it wasn't healing right, and ⁓ th Todd Bowles was even non-committal on whether or not he'd be starting in the season ⁓ come October. So that's pretty crazy. Jonathan: That is I got that and I got really sad. Incredibly sad. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, you Daniel: Mm-hmm. The Danewell ⁓ pick is huge. You know, I really do like Sean Tucker. I have for a while, and he's been getting better every year. He came in super young, so we'll see we'll see how that backfield's gonna shake out. It's gonna be a mystery until the season starts, or at least until training camp comes out, and might be able to hear some tidbits of who's taking carries with who, but yeah, it'll be interesting to keep our ear to the ground on that one. Not Last McGeee: This this scares the crap out of me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Jonathan: Lose Mario again. Daniel: Sounds like we did. Jonathan: Okay, he'll be back. I'll jump in at number two then. ⁓ Yeah. I'm getting I'm getting Okay. I was all like who the hell is three sticks? What is going on? I'll let Mario take it. Go ahead, because I wrote in number three. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. You wrote that one in. Daniel: Kenneth Walker the third, three sticks. It it made me think about that one. Not Last McGeee: Kevin Walker. Yeah, he's he's looking like he's competing in the enhanced games with how he's showing up to the Chiefs. Dude is yoked. He's huge. And ⁓ man, no, he he's ⁓ he's sho showing up and ⁓ not only that but with what he said against the ⁓ Seahawks Daniel: He's always been that built that way. Not Last McGeee: And them not having him as their number one running back. ⁓ got a couple fans spitting back at him on ⁓ X. And so he's actually taking the bait and doing that thing. We don't want to see that happen. It's like, okay, okay. Well now he's fish officially a chief. So ⁓ gotta have some off-the-field issues. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Nice. ⁓ Daniel: Mm. Not Last McGeee: But what a talented dude. So ⁓ if he's he's really coming in with a chip on his shoulder, can't wait to see what he does with the full workload. ⁓ I don't know if he'll make it though. I mean, his whole upper body looks yoked, but his problem's always been his lower body. So let's see if he worked out his ankles and ⁓ his soft tissue ligaments and stuff, 'cause that's that's where he tends to have problems. Daniel: Yeah. He's had a lot of growing issues. Growing pulls ⁓ in his career. But yeah, let's see. If he's got a full workload, he's taken anywhere between twenty to twenty five touches a game. ⁓ we're talking week five. You know, he'll play ten games this year. But yeah, week five, be out for a few weeks, be back in, then he'll be out a little bit more. And that's the way I see it. I mean, I would love to see Not Last McGeee: Mm. Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: You're right. It's a Jonathan: Thanks. Daniel: If he plays all 17 games with the Chiefs in that offense with the talent that we always used to talk about with him, he's he he's my favorite for RB one overall on the year. but I just don't think that I just don't think that he's gonna play all seventeen games. He's just not that he hasn't his entire career. So I mean Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: A hundred percent. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Nope. Daniel: Maybe it's gonna change and he'll be okay this season. Maybe he's gonna do more regiments on the off season, maybe the Chiefs training staff, all of those things, but like I w you know, would I be taking a risk on him? Yes, as as a f you know, like f round one fantasy pick? Probably, but no, it's risky. Jonathan: The likeness. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Like I Jonathan: Definitely. ⁓ Okay. ⁓ well go ahead, go ahead, I don't interrupt. Not Last McGeee: Okay, I was just gonna say I kinda I kinda see him as the Mike Evans treatment. You know, he's gonna be out for maybe three weeks with ⁓ hamstring, but the rest of the time, he's gonna be solid. And he doesn't really kill you that way. 'Cause it's something you can kinda plan on 'cause you it's you've got a history of it. And ⁓ you know, he he Daniel: Draw off the handcuff. Not Last McGeee: When when he's good, he's solid. And you know that w as soon as that entry crops up, okay, I need somebody for the next couple games. And when he's back in, he's gonna give it his all and you'll be alright. And so ⁓ I kinda see him the same way. Jonathan: Okay. Interesting. I don't know. Not a bad way to see him. ⁓ let's see. Next up. Derwin James and the Chargers agree to a three year extension worth up to seventy five point six million dollars. Are you liking what the Chargers are putting together? I'm kinda liking what the Chargers are putting together. I mean James is Yeah. I mean that's your vet. Daniel: Good move locking him up. Mm-hmm. on dang, I'm getting all the sad news. Coach Harbaugh says Malik Neighbor's knee is complicated. He gives no timeline on his return. Ouch. Jonathan: So I gotta s I gotta bring the sad drop out. I haven't had it out before. Now you keep mentioning we got a lot of sad stuff. It's kinda Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: There we go. There it is. It's ready for your next one. Yeah, that's a bummer. ⁓ also another hit to my fantasy team. I don't like that. Not Last McGeee: All right. All right. And then we Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, I know, man. ⁓ Stellar, but when they get there. And then this is ⁓ the Packers running back, Josh Jacobs. Looked like he was ready for a huge workload. But instead he's facing five charges, two felony. Battery domestic abuse, criminal property damage, disorderly conduct, intimidation of a victim. Daniel: Well I Not Last McGeee: And felony charge is strangulation and suffocation. There's actually two felony charges against him. He was released on bail. and so they're looking at the possibility of life without him. Marshawn Lloyd is already taking first team reps, because you know, you can't ⁓ the the old stripey uniforms aren't quite out yet for the Packers. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: He's there. Not Last McGeee: So Daniel: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: ⁓ jeez. Did you see the statement that the lawyer his lawyer put out a statement today? W just ridiculous. Okay. We are extremely pleased that Josh has been released from custody and that no criminal charges have been filed against him. We Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Hmm. No, I missed that. Not Last McGeee: I didn't see that. Jonathan: As previously stated, we encourage everyone to keep an open mind while the matter is fully reviewed. We remain confident that once all the evidence is gathered and evaluated, it will confirm that no charges should be brought against Josh in the future. And a bunch of lawyer names there. So ⁓ yeah. Five counts. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. So the the restraining order is still in place. and ⁓ k I'm gonna piggyback on this one because we forgot to put it in the news is ⁓ James Pierce Jr. has had most of his charges ⁓ looked at. He's been released, and he the only thing remaining that ⁓ sounds strong is the one year Jonathan: That's a shit. Not Last McGeee: restraining order from his girlfriend, but she's backing off most of her charges. So there is the possibility that James Pierce Jr. will play for the Falcons this year also. He may miss OTAs while he's still going through the legal stuff. And we will see what the league will do as far as suspensions. ⁓ since he wasn't smoking marijuana, they may give him nothing. But yeah. Daniel: Wow. Jonathan: Yeah, wow that's a big Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Well we'll see we'll see what happens. Jonathan: Ha ha ha We Daniel: I ⁓ Because they could get the resisting of arrest charges too, but I guess if everything else is getting thrown out they might just leave that be, you know. Jonathan: Possible, yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yep. So they've given him some time served and some other stuff already, but there's the possibility that he walks out of this and keeps playing. And they they they're gonna put him on probation and he's got the restraining order against his ex and that that might be it for what he has to face. Daniel: Interest interesting. Yeah. Good good thing he didn't ruin his life. That's what I'll say. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. All right, and speaking of ruining lives, ⁓ Rashi Rice. Rashi Rice is suspended for six games. We know the commissioner does hate weed. So suspensions have been handed down. But he did ⁓ what? ⁓ drop his he busted he he ⁓ missed he what, fucked up a drug test and he's on parole for it, so you know, probation, so Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: And yeah. He's in jail rehabilitating from a knee surgery also. So that's Jonathan: Well, that's the that's what we talked about last time and I wanted to re go on it. Like ha that is the worst case for you right now to not be rehabbing your knee and you're in jail. W there's not much you can do in your little nine by nine, you know? And ⁓ a knee requires a lot of good rehab, like Not Last McGeee: ⁓ he's with all the money the tubes have. Daniel: Send in sending the therapist there every day. I i it'd be interesting to see, but I wouldn't be surprised if like a another cleanup surgery happened this off season because of the circumstance. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Trendy. What? He needs the conjugal room 'cause you can't touch each other in the regular visitation room, so Daniel: Now I said therapist, not a you know, there's the nah we're not talking Watson rubs here. Yeah, yeah. No Watson rubs. Alright. Football adjacent news Johnny football. Johnny Menzel wins his first UFC matchup and it was ugly. It looked like a high school brawl. It was not good. Jonathan: No, I know, but I mean it's to be doing stretches and touching, so Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ my goodness. Yes it was. Yes it was. But you know, he came out but holy holy moly, was that an ugly fight? I don't know if any of you guys watched that, but it was Not Last McGeee: ⁓ man. Daniel: Thirty one, so congratulations. Not Last McGeee: ⁓ yeah, that that looked like ⁓ Daniel: You know, it's the first time that he won in a competitive ⁓ professional sport in quite some time. So, you know, at least he's he he's got that. Jonathan: I've I've seen that out of my job. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: He he he did not look like he was in shape. And neither did the other guy. It looked like one of those things they have them here in Thailand also where you you you you can get you can look at your drink bill and then you can go up and fight to and the winner doesn't have to pay for their drinks. And it looked like, you know, you would get a couple of out of shape football fans and be like, Alright Jonathan: ⁓ Either did the other guy though. Ha ha. Not Last McGeee: Who who wants to go up and ⁓ who the winner doesn't have to pay for their drink and a bunch of out of shape middle aged dudes go up there and start going with the tummy rubs and ⁓ yeah, he was Jonathan: You you nailed it. You nailed it 'cause that's exactly what it looked like is they went like, Hey, we need two members from the audience and they just picked the two like not shape. You go like, all right they they keep skipping over the guy the buff guy and they're like, No, not you, not you. Okay. You in the back and you in the corner, not on the phone. You're on the phone, you're not even paying attention. We'll go Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was ugly. Jonathan: That was pretty bad. Yes, it was. All right. Good news. Great news. The Teddy Bridgewater Act was finally pla ⁓ passed in Florida. ⁓ middle school and high school coaches can now spend up to fifteen thousand dollars of their own money to support student athletes with food, transportation, and recovery services to help their players. ⁓ and you know, that's all because Teddy Bridgewater was a great coach and a great person with all what he was doing for all those kids down there. And they I mean, they went after him. They went after him for it. So ⁓ good for Florida. Good for good good for Florida for stepping up and protecting their people like that. So mad credit. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, Daniel. Daniel: Very I I'm glad that they did that. ⁓ Henry Ruggs has a good chance at parole. There are multiple ⁓ NFL teams that have already been going to his prison to see him working out. So ⁓ he's probably NFL bound. Jonathan: ⁓ that guy's good. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: I skipped you. That's what happened. I I totally skipped ahead. I'm sorry. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. He's yeah, he said he's kept in football shape the whole time. ⁓ I'm I'm like, what he did was no worse than what Rashi Rice did. Rashi Rice just got super lucky. And he took someone's life. He's had to do time for it. I don't mind him coming back at all. And it's especially if like I think it would be a good thing if Daniel: Yeah, yeah. Not Last McGeee: He did donate part of his salary and the league matched it to help the community and ⁓ and everything because the the Raiders are in Vegas now and Vegas is where it happened and yeah, I I think I think it could be a good redemption story. I've said that before, especially I I would like to see him back in Vegas, matched up with Max Crosby, who's gone through addiction before, and made that part of his story. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah. Not Last McGeee: And I think lots of kids have done mistakes. Jonathan: a good mentor to be walking rugs through. Yeah. ⁓ talented kid, just you know, you make the wrong choice and one decision could man could spiral and take your life. But I'd I you know to see him come back and if he can get his a second chance back into the league it would be an interesting thing to see. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, it could be a good story. Daniel: Bad choice. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. But be being a good athlete and being a good ⁓ NFL player, they don't always match up, so just because he's been in good shape for the last three years doesn't mean he's used to the D Bs being on him and everything. He might have to convert to D B or safety or something like that to come back to the NFL, but yeah, well I I I think second chances would be nice. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. Daniel: Just Just get a season under his belt and then get get back into professional football mode, you know. Yeah. Go from there. Cool. So Mario, go for the next one. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Anyway. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Okay. ⁓ Bears reiterate Thursday that all options have been exhausted. They will be leaving Chicago for suburban Illinois or Hammond, Indiana. And yeah. I Jonathan: Mm. That's history right there. That's one of your oldest franchises. Yep. Can't I believe the city is just letting them walk like that? Not Last McGeee: I I think that's awful for such a historic franchise. Daniel: Yeah, there's gonna be the Indiana Bears, maybe, I don't know. Jonathan: Yeah, I think they're still staying in Chicago, but yeah. Not Last McGeee: Night. You you have a a billion dollar corporation and they can't make it work out. Daniel: Bien, mhm. Jonathan: ⁓ we'll see. We'll see. ⁓ Daniel, let's get back on track. I'll throw you here and then I'll Daniel: Mm-hmm. It's but on the incline too, right? Like you know that they're gonna be good in the next couple of years. Like it's sad when places leave like that, the communities. That's brutal. And especially being just close enough to be like, haha, you know, we're still close. so that's super Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. You're you're gonna take the team away when they're doing well. ⁓ Jonathan: We were young, we had to see it happen with ⁓ Baltimore and Clevel with Cleveland with ⁓ with ⁓ art moving the team like that. Like yeah, I mean you wanna go and we'll get back on track? Okay. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Go ahead. Yeah, you can go you do eleven, I'll do twelve. Jonathan: Okay. ⁓ yeah. Daniel: Show sheet people. We're talking about the show sheet here. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ Rams agree to a one year extension with Stafford worth fifty five million. Keeping him there. Gotta keep ⁓ get get get one more year to teach ⁓ Ty Simpson a little bit, right? Bench him all year long, let Stafford have the season and he can learn behind him. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Which is Jonathan: What what better Hucket and Chuck it quarterback to learn from? I mean Daniel: Yeah. Very true. I think ⁓ you know, two to three years is what they were saying before he would be ready if he was sitting and learning behind somebody, so that's a good timeline for them. ⁓ I am sorry, John. I I I didn't notice what was next and I figure you might want to add the tidbits from ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ we could duck I d I didn't know how much I wanted to chuck into that. ⁓ but yeah, we can ⁓ we'll we'll say we'll say something. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ Giants show Shine signs a multi-year extension. So go blue. Jonathan: Boo. What a just I mean, like, I cannot believe they keep making the wrong decisions in certain avenues. I really like the Joe the John Harbaugh signing. I think that's good. ⁓ you know, I think he's a good coach. I think he can work with ⁓ the ⁓ the the current ⁓ what they're going for with ⁓ you know, Dart and and ⁓ Scataboo. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: I don't know. ⁓ but yeah, we were we were mentioning that ⁓ our our fellow manager went to dinner with ⁓ the Giants D B coach and our manager was sharing his ⁓ we'll say unhappy opinion, his displeasure with a few of the draft picks and why didn't you do this or this? Daniel: Displeasure. Yeah. Jonathan: and was ⁓ apparently very politely bitched out and put into his place. ⁓ I think it kinda turned him on a little bit, but he yeah, ⁓ loyal Giants fan he is, so, you know. ⁓ he took it he took it right on the chin and said thank you, can I have another? So Daniel: Yeah. Speaking of Giants fans having another, ⁓ Giants defensive lineman, Roy Robertson Harris, Torres, ACL, and OTAs just after they trade Dexter Lawrence. So you you know he was going to be key. Ow. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. That really hurts. Daniel: That does. That hurts their linebacking core too. Because now, you know, they're not gonna be able to run free. They think the linemen aren't gonna be as occupied at the line. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, they said the entire interior's been blown up with that one pop. And ⁓ and so now they were taking in calls of any veteran tryouts. Any veterans out there on defensive line. So now they're they're looking to sign there's rumors that they've signed ⁓ two defensive linemen already. ⁓ from I think Washington Redskins there was one. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah. Not Last McGeee: and ⁓ and another so I I have to get the actual names on those but yeah we they're they they were like oops wrong bad timing Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: I would be making as many calls and delivering anything that I could to Aaron Donald. One season. We just need you for one year. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, right. Jonathan: ⁓ my goodness, come for one. Yeah. Pay the bank. Daniel: Where I mean pay him what you can, give him stock options, like do do whatever you can for a single year. But like you can can you imagine that the pieces that they've added on that team along with an Aaron Donald on that line for a single season? That'd be crazy. Jonathan: Man would that man would want to bring the truck backed up to him. Not Last McGeee: Dude, stop option, yeah. Jonathan: Actually Not Last McGeee: You give that man a one per cent ownership of the Giants? Dude, I'm pretty sure he'd come out of retirement for that. Daniel: Of the ch yeah. Yes. With an option of like a buyout in the future or something like that too. Right? So then that that's a good way to go about it and not have such a heavy cap hit, right? Be interesting to to see how ⁓ Well, I mean, d if he wants to hold it he can hold it or they can, you know Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Who Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Who's letting that buy out happen? Let's be honest. Let's be honest. Daniel: bit it up until they get that one percent back. But it's just saying ⁓ one percent of a you know billion and a half rated franchise is is, you know, more than what he was making per season previously, so Jonathan: Foolish. I'd take that one percent. ⁓ my goodness. Okay, yeah, that's Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. You know he'd be there ⁓ helping out line coaches and helping that the team improve big time if he really Yeah. ⁓ man, that's such an interesting take, yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. It would hit the salary cap different. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: I don't know if there's like bylaws in the NFL on not doing that to get around the cap, but if somebody actually figures out a way to go about that is to get around the cap for some stars, I mean that would be interesting. ⁓ yeah. Jonathan: I'm just sure there's no owner that wants to hand away percentage of their team. And then it has to be okayed by all the other thirty one teams as well. So it goes to it goes to the committee. It goes to the committee and a team can't just Yeah, it would. It would. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. That that's a to be Daniel: ⁓ that's right. That's a good caveat. Yeah. That'd still be fun. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, same thing happened with Brady. It took a while for him to be allowed to purchase. but yeah. ⁓ in other news, Stefan Diggs had to go to court and the woman accusing him brought zero proof to the courtroom. Turned out to be ⁓ attempt at a money grab. All accusations were dropped, all charges dropped, ⁓ Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: You know, we we always wanna believe the victim, go through, see everything through and make sure that all accusations are taken seriously, but this is a big problem when you're a celebrity and you got a name. And ⁓ I'm yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ this has been going on forever, right? I mean these women chase people like I mean, 'cause there are only people like that may have done it and Rothesburg, but you never know. I never know. Daniel: I mean, you know you also you're you're asking for a a good portion of that when you go around s scoring just about every you know, every person of the opposite gender that you're running into, you know. So, I mean, he was having relations with her while he's dating other people and who knows what was said and then he had another baby and then they get all mad and there's all those things. So it's like, you know, you're also asking for it when you're running your life like an asshole. So Jonathan: Ultra baby. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. E everyone thought this matches up with his character, but everyone believed it right off the bat. And so she chose her mark well. But Jonathan: Or a T V show. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. She did. And he and he but he brought the receipts, literally the payroll receipts that she said that she wasn't receiving. So like he So he's got a good manager. He's he's got a good manager. So at least there's that. If he didn't have a good manager, that wasn't gonna happen. So he's making good decisions somewhere. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Jonathan: Yeah, I very much know. Very much. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. And she she had no alibi. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah. Make sure you give ⁓ a good Christmas bonus this year, right? Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: All right. ⁓ it looks like ⁓ Ruben Bane will be wearing the Bane helmet. Yes, the Bane mask from Batman. Yes, yes, yes. I dig it, I dig it. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: The bang face mask. ⁓ Not Last McGeee: Yeah. And it looks awesome, especially with the blacked out visor. Dude, that in the pewter looks great. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Very nice. Yeah, I dig it. There's I you know, it's not my first choice of banes to go, but I I ⁓ you know it's a good bane. So it's a good bane. It's well known. So I like it. Yeah, you see ⁓ and we've lost Mario. ⁓ because Not Last McGeee: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Easy to replicate. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, that's true. All right, Daniel? Daniel: He that that mosquito must have had the Wi Fi attached. Yeah. Jonathan: Eight sockets. ⁓ No. His house on the clapper. Turned off. And it turned off. Not Last McGeee: You got the next one? Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ man. Jonathan: What a bummer 'cause today was a good it was all written by him and it's all schemes to talk to the three of us. ⁓ yeah, what a bummer. Not Last McGeee: We good, everybody on? Daniel: Yeah. he'll be he'll he'll be back. We'll keep going, but he should be he should be coming back here shortly. It's so funny. That's ⁓ last thing we see Not Last McGeee: ⁓ Jonathan: Hope you got it. Hope you got it. Daniel: Yeah. At least we didn't see the the room go to. So you know he didn't like knock over the laptop and break the laptop at least. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Not hearing anything, sorry. Jonathan: Hit the computer. Yeah. His world his world didn't turn upside down. That was that's a good thing. That's that's a very good point. Expensive mosquito. Yeah, it's expensive mosquito. ⁓ shit. Man. He done those mistakes. Daniel: That that's that's right. At least at least there's that. Expensive mosquito. He's gotta get more geckos in his house to eat those mosquitoes, man. Jonathan: Hey, right? That's not bad. That's a good idea. Okay. ⁓ up to you. I just did last one. So we'll jump it back and forth. Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ ⁓ Tyree Krill is not healing as fast as expected. Most teams are steering clear and are gonna let another team take the leap. I wouldn't be surprised if it was almost like a, you know, forced retirement until he comes back and proves that he can move on the field. But he hasn't he's been in pretty steep decline over the last couple of years. So I think I think teams are just gonna say Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm, yeah. Daniel: You're not worth your price tag anymore, so sorry. Jonathan: No, he's gotta he's gotta take a pay cut if he wants to play this year or show that he can do it again. You're right. So ⁓ and the only way is to take that pay cut to play somewhere else, right? So yeah. I don't think he's getting what he wants. ⁓ that or it's time to start his porn career, like he always said, so Not Last McGeee: All right. Daniel: Yeah, him and Diggs are definitely, you know, bros. So th they they they live that same life. So we'll see how that goes too. Jonathan: You know, we always need these type of receivers in the league, though. It's it's entertainment, right? It's pure entertainment. You need them in your life, so. And speaking of stuff we're back to Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs is looking like he is the favorite for the commanders or the Chiefs, which by God, can you imagine all the Chiefs being checked to by Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Friggin' Mahomes when he's healthy. Although, you know, it's just in just the field. So be a rocky start for a little while. Daniel: You think he's wild now? Wait till he gets on the Chiefs. He's not gonna last till the season. He's gonna be in jail before the season starts. Jonathan: on a Super Bowl team. Look at me. Yeah, I know. I gotta win it to get it. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: You guys could I'm hearing not. Yeah, he's gotta rejoin. Alright, we'll see if we can get him to rejoin that link. So, ⁓ Take us off with the last bit of news there. Daniel: ⁓ Debo Samuel claims he still has fuel in the tank. Yeah. Yeah. Just like Diggs going to wherever he will, or Tyreek Hill going to wherever they will. They were great. They were awesome. Tyreek is likely, very likely, a Hall of Famer. Stefan Diggs might be in the conversation. Maybe not. I don't think he did enough over his career. He was an above-average player, but not Hall of Fame. Jonathan: I don't believe it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Meh. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Definitely. Mm. It'll be a while. If he does make it it'll be a long time like Tim Brown, right? So Daniel: Tyreek though. Yeah, yeah. Reek though, yeah. He's he's gonna be in conversation for first bell at Hall of Famer, but we'll have to see how. ⁓ you know, it just might be towards the end for them. Not Last McGeee: Okay. Okay. Daniel: Welcome back. Not Last McGeee: Thank you. Thank you. All right. Right. Daniel: We said that that mosquito must have been carrying your Wi Fi. Jonathan: ⁓ I said I said you were on the clapper and when you clapped it turned everything off, so Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, must have been. Yeah, must have been. Jonathan: I like it. Well, yeah, per perfect timing. We made it right in time for us to fit into ⁓ the next ⁓ our next ⁓ segment, which written by Mario. ⁓ the best coaches ⁓ coach scheme new fits. So it's the best new fits of the coaches that were just hired ⁓ this year in twenty twenty six. And there was plenty of head coach hiring, let alone not even talking offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator, but we have plenty of names that we are all writing down. ⁓ we were trying to stick to the top three, but we all went four and five a little bit, so why don't we jump into it? I know we had plenty of things to like. So ⁓ Mario, you this is your written written your segment. Why don't you start us off? Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Okay, so I think the top hire we were all excited for was where is Mike McDaniels gonna go? And I think that I still think that was one of the best hires of the offseason, ⁓ going to the Chargers because last year they just had zero run game and Herbert had to do a whole lot carrying the team on his back. Okay, so I think the top hire we were all excited for was where is Mike McDaniels gonna go? And I think that I still think that was one of the best hires of the offseason, ⁓ going to the Chargers because last year they just had zero run game and Herbert had to do a whole lot carrying the team on his back. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Which he's one of the few quarterbacks that can do that, but I think they're gonna have a much better balanced offense with a a healthy offensive line this year and B just a a scheme that Mike McDaniels has always taken a lot off of the offensive line with his quick motions and whatnot to get the run game. Which he's one of the few quarterbacks that can do that, but I think they're gonna have a much better balanced offense with a a healthy offensive line this year and B just a a scheme that Mike McDaniels has always taken a lot off of the offensive line with his quick motions and whatnot to get the run game Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: and his receivers open and with Herbert's ⁓ abilities and he's actually got some super talented wide receivers. ⁓ now the now that ⁓ Quentin Johnson found his hands, I think we we actually have a stellar cast to deliver on ⁓ Mike McDaniels types of schemes. It's not gonna be the same that we saw in and his receivers open and with Herbert's ⁓ abilities and he's actually got some super talented wide receivers. ⁓ now that now that ⁓ Quentin Johnson found his hands, I think we we actually have a stellar cast to deliver on ⁓ Mike McDaniel's types of schemes. It's not gonna be the same that we saw in Daniel: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Miami that was based solely off speed, but that's what he had to deal with. And he did draft someone who has similar speed with the Tyree Kill. So ⁓ we'll see what he does there, but I think there's gonna be a lot more yardage due to the chunk ⁓ plays in the schemed open catches. So that's gonna Miami that was based solely off speed, but that's what he had to deal with. And he did draft someone who has similar speed with the Tyreek Hill. So ⁓ we'll see what he does there, but I think there's gonna be a lot more yardage due to the chunk ⁓ plays in the schemed open catches. So that's gonna be great for the running backs and great for the receivers over here. Great for the team overall. yeah, I I I think it's a huge great hire. ⁓ especially with the offensive line coming back. It was almost a blessing that they weren't great coming in so they could kinda hit things they wanted to coming into this season. be great for the running backs and great for the receivers over here. Great for the team overall. ⁓ yeah, I I I think it's a huge, great hire. ⁓ especially with the offensive line coming back. It was almost a blessing that they weren't great coming in so they could kinda hit things they wanted to coming into this season. Daniel: Yeah. Nice. John, tell us where ⁓ you have McDonald's on your list. Jonathan: I I have ⁓ sitting at ⁓ I I put ⁓ at two. I I was kinda I don't know. I got a little more excited about someone else. ⁓ I like the John Harbaugh hire for the Giants. I think it's trying to get them that franchise into the right there we go. We lost my gun. ⁓ that franchise into the right direction. ⁓ they they've got a culture that they're building with Dart and with Scataboo. And I think Harbaugh ⁓ ha you know, he can come in and you know, he did great in Baltimore. He just I don't think he was the issue. I I like don't get me wrong, Jackson is three quarterback, but I do think Jackson that was part of the issue. ⁓ had some issues and ⁓ you know, you blame the coach after a while. So ⁓ Kind of like we're seeing we saw Tomlin get cut too. So you you go after the hey, th they're they're long term coaches for a reason. They did long they did great for a long reason. ⁓ you know, for ⁓ for that long term, they're they're there for a reason. So ⁓ and when you continuously can bring your team to an AFC championship or ⁓ the AFC divisional, you're you're doing something right. So Yeah, like I anyway. But ⁓ we are Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: I was excited about that hire too. I think he's a good fit for what the team needs right now. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And but I mean like Yeah, I mean like come on, but like you got Matt Nagy as offensive coordinator, which is the budget store magician. He's not a great head coach, but he's an okay offensive coordinator. ⁓ but I I I think there could be better there for offensive coordinator. I'm not a big fan of Matt Nagy, don't get me wrong. But I mean like as a coordinator, he's a much better coordinator than a coach. Just not a head coach. That dude's absolute sucks. But budget store magician for sure. Not Last McGeee: Thank you Daniel: ⁓ that's Not Last McGeee: Hi. Yeah, I think he got a, that was a last minute call up who you can because I think he was fully expecting Todd Monk going to join him over there in New York. And. Jonathan: See, that would've been ⁓ man, would that have been magic. That would've been a really good one. Yeah, that's a good segue. I like Not Last McGeee: And so since Munkin didn't go, then he had to call up someone else, a backup plan. think that's what Nagy was. So I don't see Nagy there past this year. ⁓ But you know, with whoever, but it's, I think it's, ⁓ he's got history in the NFL. Harbaugh can trust him for this year. And I think he's, it's a, you know, Daniel: Nice segue. Jonathan: A backup plan. Yeah, absolutely. Daniel: For sure. They Not Last McGeee: fill in situation for Nagy so I give him that credit. Daniel: Safe pick. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Not Last McGeee: but not the best. Jonathan: Not yeah, it's not incredibly ⁓ imaginative. I don't get good ⁓ I was I always felt like I was rookie rookie Madden level, you know what mean? So I don't know. Not Last McGeee: All right. Mm-hmm. Daniel: So ⁓ yep, I agree. A and that's why I I like him I like him at Harbaugh again as the head coach higher, but I'm not too keen on the some of the staff that he ended up bringing in with him. ⁓ I do think that they are high floor, low ceiling guys. and so that that coaching staff is gonna have Jonathan: ⁓ so you're said by Yes. Not Last McGeee: Yes. Daniel: I think turnover over the next couple of years until they dial something in. But they're not gonna go backwards. I still think that the Giants are gonna be better with the John Harbaugh higher because I think he's what that organization needs to just like get them right back on track, you know. ⁓ and build the culture that's there. Mario, I had Mike McDaniels as my number two coach. I I agree with everything that you have to say. Jonathan: Yeah. Can mold a culture. Yeah, you can mold a culture. Daniel: you know, generally offensive line stay healthy in that wide zone scheme as long as they're athletic enough, besides Eric Armstead in Miami, which was unfortunate for McDaniels big time. But that, you know, when the Chargers offensive line actually played together for like the three games, they they were a top three offensive line in the NFL. They're monsters. And so i if they can take some of the stress and they can stay healthy. Not Last McGeee: Thank Daniel: There's just an embarrassment of riches in in LA. Which is why I I I put him as two. because I love him there. Don't get me wrong. But I think that just about any offensive coordinator that they're gonna bring in had a very high ⁓ likelihood of success. ⁓ my number one guy is somebody that you mentioned earlier, that's for say the segue is is Todd Munkin. ⁓ I think that Jonathan: Wait. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: He was hired because of his history of accentuating the strengths that the Browns actually have on the roster now. ⁓ and so I think it was a very smart hire for the Browns for that scheme. ⁓ I am super high ⁓ on Harold Fannon this year with Todd Munkin as the head coach. Every every time every time every year Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know. Not Last McGeee: 100%. Daniel: that ⁓ Todd Muntkin was an offensive coordinator. tight ends scored a touchdown every six point five catches. So there's a lot of upside with the strengths that they have ⁓ on the Browns. And you know, he's dealt with great quarterback play and he's also dealt with subpar quarterback play. But ⁓ i it tight end position is something that he really highlights ⁓ in his offenses and so it's gonna be interesting to see what he does. So I'm really excited about that 'cause I happen to have Fannon on my dynasty team. And so I think that that was a beautiful hire for what they've got going there. Jonathan: English. ⁓ it's a very good hire. I did like Monk and I had him on my list as well. ⁓ I overlooked when I was adding all the other names, but yeah, I put him at number four on my list. So Not Last McGeee: Yeah, he's he's number two on mine. ⁓ The diff, it felt like he was showing off in Baltimore when he was every single week coming up with a completely new offensive scheme to beat teams at exactly what they were good at. And that was his first year with Baltimore. Then to hear him in his press conferences with the Browns. Jonathan: I did feel like he was showing. Not Last McGeee: And to hear his no nonsense, I mean, he sounded like he coaches at a place called the dog pound. No nonsense. He's going to call it like it is the best players will play. It's going to be a competition the entire year. Nobody sits on their laurels. And I think he's, he's a really good fit for the culture there. ⁓ I also listened to a lot of other podcasters and I read a lot of Jordan, Rodriguez and stuff. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm. Not Last McGeee: And she says that the analytics in Cleveland are some of the top tier in the entire NFL. They have stuff on health and ⁓ all kinds of soft tissue development and recuperation. They have all kinds of analytics from the kids they're watching in college and on everything they've done. And so they're higher of Monkin and they're fit with what they have and what they're building on and what the strengths of their players are, I thought was, ⁓ they really reached deep. They really looked through. At first, I thought, OK, well, why'd they hire Munkin when he's, I didn't think he was one of the higher end guys, but I really respect him as an OC. And I was really hoping he would go to New York with Harbaugh. But after looking into everything and what the Browns as an organization do, especially since Watson they've been a lot more careful and you've seen their drafts really show that. ⁓ think. Dude. Jonathan: Yes. They had an amazing draft too. Yeah. Daniel: Mm. They've had to. They've they've they had no picks. They had to they had to innovate to s to not completely be a dumpster fire for the next fifty years, right? And the and the Browns have had two solid years now. Yeah. Jonathan: No picks, no money. Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: And so yeah, I have in this my number two. Yeah, yeah, so I'm excited for Cleveland with what they have going on. Jonathan: Yeah. I mean not the first time not the first time we've said this on this podcast 'cause we're always excited when they have so much talent on that team from being in a decade in the top five or top ten. You got good players, you know, it was coaching and ⁓ worst trade and NFL history to just thank you. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So ⁓ okay. Daniel: So he Munkin was white. Not Last McGeee: John. Daniel: NFL history, yeah. Not Last McGeee: ⁓ yeah. Daniel: Yeah. So who you got is three, Mario? We all have McDaniels in our top two. Not Last McGeee: For three, I have. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, we all had thought yeah. That was a nice pairing, I think. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. So next I have Mike McCarthy to the Steelers. And when it first happened, I did not have him up here in the top three at all. But after looking through all his records and everything like that that he's done and hearing the moves they're making, like Drew Aller. Jonathan: Okay. Not Last McGeee: may not make it as an NFL quarterback. But the fact that they took a late round flyer on his talent, on his physical attributes, and they're stripping him back and they're taking the time and they're doing the things that they are with him, ⁓ what they've put together with that receiver room, and the different moves that they've made, everything makes sense. Everything they've done makes sense. And it's the same kind of thing in New York in the Giants ⁓ with with John Harbaugh where you're like, OK, last year they gave up four leads to lose and they lost them with big chunks of points. So what they do, they brought back a lot of stuff on defense to make sure that doesn't happen again. So I think with Mike McCarthy, it's the same kind of thing with the Steelers. They're putting their boots in the mud and going, this is the line. We're holding the line and we're going to inch forward and inch forward. They have an incredible offensive line already, but they weren't healthy last year. So what they do, they added to it for depth with a really, really strong candidate. And so all the moves they're making are the building blocks to a championship year after year. contender and I like those moves will they get there this year? don't think so but they're they're making those moves and it seems like it has his footprints on it and that's why I put him up to number three Jonathan: car. Interesting. I don't have him in my top list. ⁓ I felt like you did. I still feel like you did ⁓ when he was first taken, so I think I'm gonna Not Last McGeee: It fell dirty at first. Daniel: I just liked it for the the daily hell that Aaron Rodgers will live with him as his head coach again. That's that's the only reason why I like that higher. Jonathan: What Canada does. Yeah. That's pretty funny, actually. I like that. ⁓ Daniel, who do you have in your number three slot? Daniel: All right. you know, button's a little obscure, ⁓ but I in it was a hire that I think kinda went under the radar for a lot of people, but as I'm kinda looking at, you know, different schemes and analytics and histories, the more I look into it, the more I really like the David Blau offensive coordinator to the Washington Commanders. it a new mind, creative. a ⁓ backup quarterback for a majority of his career, which those guys are basically, you know, receiving doctorates in football because they've got to be ahead just like the head coach before they're, you know, going in. I think it's very underestimated how much work backup quarterbacks have to do mentally ⁓ to help prepare the starter and everything else. That's it's a story that's not told very much. So you've got to learn more as a backup quarterback. to be prepared for different things ⁓ than just and and then help the starter focus on particular things as well. So he's just had a lot of recent success ⁓ developing quarterbacks and some of his philosophies and I like the way that he's he's talked and so the pieces that they have there ⁓ I'm excited to see what it what it might be. I think that he might be that you know new young up and comer ⁓ that's gonna blow the top off the league here ⁓ with the offensive scheme. I might be completely wrong and this is a one hit thing, but so far I just like the way things are lining up with that one. ⁓ so David Blau is one that I'm really interested in. he's my number three right now. Jonathan: That's a good one. That's a really good one. ⁓ I have Jesse Minter, ⁓ for ⁓ Baltimore. Yeah. I know it was a hire from within. But yeah, he's got a good defensive track. ⁓ you know, he he did really well. He's I mean, back to Chargers when he made them a top five scoring defensive ranking and then before that he was a coordinator to Michigan on the twenty twenty three undefeated national championship run. So Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: solid. Jonathan: I mean, strong candidate. I really like him. ⁓ he he ⁓ he has the culture for Baltimore. He was their defense ⁓ he was ⁓ D B coach. What what we got? Yeah, he was their ⁓ defensive assistant and D B back coach ⁓ from twenty twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. So he's got he he's in their culture. He knows what the what Harbaugh had been doing. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ for quite some time so he can step in and fill in and really strengthen their defense more. I like I like Minter. I thought it was a good I didn't like it as first. This is how I felt about McCarthy with you. Same feeling. ⁓ I didn't like it at first. I was like, ⁓ they could have done better. That's just an in and then the more I've looked into him, I was like, okay, that was actually a really good it was kind of like a chess piece. And ⁓ it was a good move for the guys. Not Last McGeee: Okay. Daniel: Yeah. I I agree. I really like him there. I liked someone that hired him. I just think that I I hope that they give him a little bit more of a leash to learn how to be a head coach since it is a different job than coordinators which he has had. And and not just fire ⁓ after the first year if they're not extremely successful. Like give I think that his ceiling is insane. but I think that he's gotta learn and give him some time. But he's had some pretty damn good head coaching mentors, in the in the Harbaugh brothers to learn from, but ⁓ I I think it's ⁓ I really like that hire too. I think it's ⁓ it's got a very high ceiling for the team. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. I really liked that. I was having a hard time placing some of these people 'cause like I like some of these names. Like I like Clint Kubiak. I thought it was a good hire for the Raiders. Yeah. I mean like I thought it was a good hire for the Raiders. It was really good. I think I'm I'm excited to see what it what it does. ⁓ to Genty and how how things are gonna pan out for this. ⁓ yeah. Shake out shaking my head, yes. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Mm, I mean Not Last McGeee: Phenomenal, yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. I'm shaking my head like this because I think that they're gonna be ridiculous this year. I think they're gonna be a top five offense this year. Not Last McGeee: I think we... Jonathan: Yeah, I do feel that. I do feel that. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, think Kubeak could have been all of us. Yeah. Daniel: It's ⁓ whether it's Cousins or Mendoza, they're gonna be a top five offense. Especially if they somehow work it out that they can get Ruggs back and he starts hitting like decent football form towards the end of the season. Like, dude, a and some of the receivers that they sign in free agency and stuff like that, like they have potential of actually making this team and having improvements. But he's with with the the Not Last McGeee: Yeah, he could do the Rashi Rice Roll. Jonathan: I'd hope now. Daniel: the tools that they have. I mean, can you imagine if they just run through the offense through through ⁓ Genty, Bowers and the other tight end, ⁓ Mayer, you know? Like they like Mayer's really good too. You know, like you could Jonathan: Mayor. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Mayor. Yeah. Jonathan: Very good. He's underrated because of who's who's ahead of him. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: He's really good. Daniel: Yep. You don't need a good receiver on that team to put up some serious points with the things that they've already done. Jonathan: Twelve run twelve personnel with two tight ends on there, you're gonna that fucking phenomenal setup, so Not Last McGeee: But that day. Daniel: That's Not Last McGeee: And they drafted good receivers. ⁓ Daniel: Like Mayor Mayor could be your receiver too. Yeah. Then they didn't use. Yeah. So like yeah, I I ⁓ I really like that shout out for for Kuby Accall. So that was ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. No, I cause I like beyond three, I wanted to keep it to three. All the rest of mine were just shout outs. It was, you know, I like the I like the Monken. I wanna I I I couldn't place Monken a little higher because I liked McDaniels. I liked the Harbaugh. I liked Minter. I got Monken was four. So then ⁓ you know, I I Robert Selah and Clint Kubiak. I ⁓ you know, Selah I think could help turn around because ⁓ Tennessee is they've got the pieces. They need the right fit. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Thank Jonathan: To kind of mold them together. They're all there. Cam Ward is not a bad quarterback. I think he'll turn around this year. He needed some offensive line in front of him. They went out and drafted a few. I mean, they got a receiver. That's the they got the pieces that they actually needed to make this kid better. So Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'm high on Kai W Cam Ward. ⁓ some people aren't. I his head towards the end of the season, what he was doing in the on that team, dragging them along with an interim head coach and some of the magic that he had, like the kid could seriously be special. Jonathan: Yeah, when a team sticks behind them. Mm. Well towards the end of the year. Yeah. Daniel: And then and then hearing like players that played against him towards the end of last year like like coming onto podcasts and stuff and being like, Hey guys, don't get it wrong, Cam Ward's legit. He's a dude. You know, I was on the field against him. He's a dude. And and so ⁓ I'm I'm pretty high on Cam Ward also. Good pickup last year. so he's ⁓ yeah, I I like that. And I think the the solid dayball pairing is like Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, same here. Daniel: Well, it's just absolutely beautiful for that. Jonathan: See and that's where I go back to New York. I would not have I would I mean like now I like Harbaugh there, but like at the at the time I would have kept Dayball. I wouldn't have kept shown. I I would not have kept shown. I would have gotten rid of Shon, kept Dayball at the time. And that would've helped push the team a little further with with Scataboo. And I mean, I think he knew how to protect his people and not gonna let them get hurt. And I think that's Not Last McGeee: Yeah. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: I don't know. I don't know. I I I know I rant on this one a little much, so we just we think back to the Yeah. Well he the way he was it was the way he was using ⁓ It was the way he was using ⁓ so I think he knew I think I think I think the w I think the writing was on the walls and he already knew he was gonna be you know what I mean? And it was a 'cause when it came to when it comes to mid season hirings, I think the writing's already w on the walls at the start of the season. They're like, hey Daniel: ⁓ he he got fired because Dart and Scataboo got hurt. I mean, that's why he got fired. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. But we'll see under Harbaugh, is it the way that he's using him or is it just the way that they play? Those guys are maniacs, right? Like so it's hard to Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Not Last McGeee: Yes. Yeah. Jonathan: We're not gonna give you many games to get this together and then it's a you're going, you know. And we've had a few ⁓ more mid season hiring hiring lately. Daniel: Yeah, that's true. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, well, he also. He also went to bat to draft those guys. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: But they're they're they're great guys and they they're look at ⁓ They're the ones that are changing the culture and making that place better. So Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. So that was... Yeah, and then... Jonathan: Yeah, I don't know. Daniel: My yeah. I got my honorable mention is Zach Robinson for Tampa Bay offensive coordinator, ex head coach in Atlanta. I gotta do the Homer. I gotta do the shout out for that one. ⁓ I really like I I really wanted Mike McDaniels, which every team that was looking for an offensive coordinator this off season would have loved to have. ⁓ but I think that ⁓ Zach Robinson is a damn good consolation prize. ⁓ Jonathan: Okay. Well I Yeah No Daniel: ⁓ as far as what we did end up getting. I I'm pretty excited to see mm how he fields our offense. Mm-hmm. And again, I'm I'm I'm high on Tucker. You know, he's he's he's he's he's yep. He's built like a faster Tyler Algier. So he's like an inch shorter, but he's built the same way. And Jonathan: I did have big chaos. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. And then. Yes, sir. Jonathan: Yeah, I do like the he's he's fast, he's quick, and he just in those moments Yeah. In those comparison. That's a really good comparison 'cause in those moments where he has gotten an opportunity, he has shined. He has shined. So he has looked like phenomenal and it's like, wait, do we want to put wait I mean, can we go back? Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ why you keep on putting this guy on the bench? Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Why are we benching him when he's playing so good? And it's like, well, you know, it's because we've got Tucker, we got White, we you know the the list of names that have been in front of this kid. You're like, play this kid. I mean, it was what, a fourth round draft pick when we got him? Like it was a fourth round draft pick. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Wahee! Daniel: Well, he's also only Yeah. He's also only twenty three years old. Like he came into the league as a twenty year old. So like he's he's got like he could just be maturing now and Bucky could be a distant memory, you know, like Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Bucky could be that one season hit, which I'm sad because I really liked Bucky, but I'll take Tucker all day too, 'cause I really like the way that he runs the ball. He's gotten stronger. You know, I obviously we don't know what they're what they're coaching in the game, so maybe he's just a frustrating film guy because he's not doing what he's supposed to do on other times, but you know, hopefully he's learned that. But yeah, I think Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Well, there's there's the flip side of that too, because he came in with a heart condition and that's why he fell in the draft, right? And so they might just be afraid to put him out there, get his heart rate up too high, have him hit too many times. They might just be managing his load and just because they like the guy on top of that. And they might be just overdoing it, you know, kid gloves on. And, you know, you got to Daniel: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm, mm-hmm. But he was meant to like what it ⁓ is Captain Rounder there. Not Last McGeee: So that could be it too, because when I see how good he is, I'm like, it just doesn't make sense. that kind of narrative would make sense to me if they're just like, dude, we like you. We don't want anything bad to happen to you because we know how much we like the Bucs because they are an organization that cares. you know, that could be this could be the downside of that is not letting your players really go all out balls to the wall because you're worried about their health a little bit. Jonathan: Good point. There's a lot we don't know behind the scenes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we don't need a like a ⁓ a Damar Hamlin situation happening on the field, right? We don't need to push a guy too far and have him drop, right? Yeah. No, I get that. Daniel: Nobody nobody wants that. I just hope we I I just I mean I hope that that is not the case and I love Jonathan: I hope it's more like it's coaching or like he's not he's not doing film or something that's it's it's upsetting the coaching, the staff that's not getting him his playtime, you know what I mean? Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. It he has you know, he has been behind some really good running backs, you know, just flat out. Buggy had an awesome year, but is he gonna be come back? Is he gonna have the confidence? Is his mental his mentality gonna be there after being hurt for the first time in his entire career? Like there's all of those other things that go behind it. Some players can never bounce back from that kind of thing. They get back on the field and they they just can't, ⁓ 'cause they don't wanna go through that again. So like Jonathan: Mm-hmm. This is how some people's careers end and start, right? Like how Brady got his thing is when ⁓ what's his name went down. So it's it's a yeah, when Bledsoe went when Drew Bledsoe went down. So like that's exactly how it happened. So you're getting the chance to play now because Bucky's not gonna be there at the start of the season. Shy and you may be here for a longer time. So I don't know. Buck to me around. Daniel: Yeah, yep. Plateau. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just hoping that they're letting him kinda ⁓ mature and learn and get the game under his belt and then they're just gonna unleash him one of these years. He's he's the guy I can't quit. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. It's a good guy not to quit, so I get it. All right. Well, I think with him dropping out, I think and we're at the hour mark. We're at a good stopping point. ⁓ Right into the show. FFWC23 at gmail.com. Hey, there he is. He's back. Not Last McGeee: Hey. Jonathan: Well, welcome back. Not Last McGeee: Thank you. I just wanted to go over my last ⁓ coach nod was to Carmen Carmen Brasillo. And he's he's an offensive line coach and I think he's probably the best offensive line coach in all of the NFL. Jonathan: D go back. Salt. Why don't you give give our listeners 'cause no one's gonna know where he's coaching. Go ahead and give our listeners make sure you give our you know, team. Not Last McGeee: Okay, so the the last yeah, the last two spots he was were the Las Vegas Raiders two years ago, right before Pete Carroll took over, and he had rookies in the top ten at their position. ⁓ JPJ almost made it to top five at his position as a rookie, as a center. And then he went To the New York Giants. And you saw Cam Scataboo and Jackson Dart do what they did after having the worst offensive line, they became a top ten unit. So in the past two years, everything he's touched has been top ten. He got hired by Robert Salah to fix the offensive line in Tennessee. So with Cam Ward and the two Jonathan: Mm. I like that. Not Last McGeee: running backs you got there with Pollard and Tajay Spears there who can be easy outlets for the quarterback and them that offensive line holding up better under his management, I think Tennessee might have one of the biggest turnarounds from a ⁓ positional coach of any team in the NFL. ⁓ Cause if he can turn that unit into a top ten with what we saw from Cam Ward at the end of the season, ⁓ he sliced and diced up the Seattle defense in ways no other quarterback did the entire year. And in the end, his offensive line did not hold up. And yeah, they they still lost, but I think with a little bump ⁓ and Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: With him, they could if they do top ten, that would be a huge bump for them. ⁓ I think that could be huge. Absolutely huge. Jonathan: Mm. I I think they're one of the bigger positional upgrades and coach everything all around overall upgrades. And I think they could be like the team that goes, you know, from worst to first. Not first, but towards the top, you know what I mean? They'll they'll be the bigger improvement, I think. ⁓ Although we could see a lot of improvement from Cal ⁓ Cleveland, so Daniel: With Raiders, too. With Pubiak. Jonathan: Raiders. Well see Raiders Raiders didn't well yeah, they were the they were the number one pick, so they were they were pretty bad. Yeah, I will point the out. They were they were pretty bad last year. Yeah. I think it was kind of Yeah. It was pretty ⁓ Not Last McGeee: ⁓ the yeah, the Raiders. Last place. Daniel: Okay. They they were like ranked number thirty offense in the league, thirty or thirty one. Like you know, and to go from that to a a top five offense like we're we just said earlier, like I mean you're Jonathan: Uh-huh. Yeah. All right. It's gonna be a very good improvement. I think they're gonna 'cause yeah, I really I'm pretty high on the Raiders with what they're gonna do, and I hate to say that 'cause of my my my everlasting hatred of the black and silver. ⁓ but yeah, I think I think they're gonna do pretty damn good this year. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. They are they are definitely going in the right direction. and as long as, you know, Mendoza is lives up to his number one overall billing, they're they could be in in a problem for years to come in the league for every other team. Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Absolutely. Well we gotta it's gonna start out with some Kirk some Kirk action. He's gonna probably have some fal some false team. He'll have his his grill in, so his grill. Daniel: Yeah. his growing. Yeah. I mean i he Mendoza might not play this entire year, but the more that he's been on the field the more there's chatter of like Well the we're gonna we're gonna have the best guy on the field, you know, rather than like Kirk's playing. They're not they're not they were saying like, yeah, obviously Kirk's gonna play the first season. We're not gonna rush him in and now the OTAs have hit and they're like we're we're gonna we're gonna have the best guy on the field. So I dun you know, I I think that and I plan on Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. I I give Kurt like notice. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: Kirk all year, like for Mendoza's development. But they might they might be like, it why he's better You know? And if he beats out Kirk that quick, yeah. Jonathan: It would be the smart thing. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: They've they've shown mechanics already between the two of ⁓ Yeah. And they well he's Jonathan: Well, I mean they draft it he's Kirk two point ⁓ That's really what he was. But he's already cousined at his young age, so he's kinda I he dropped that F bomb on stage, man. That's that's not Kirk style. That's not Kirk. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ I love the kid. Yeah. I love I love the kid. What's scary is is when I was I I Yeah he was my first pick in Dynasty, so I'm a little obsessed with the Raiders right now. And ⁓ when I first saw the OTA film when he was throwing, I I literally said out loud That looks exactly like Brady. Not Last McGeee: Kirk Kirk didn't get drafted to the Raiders. Jonathan: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: the his mechanics are exactly like Brady. And ⁓ and I was like, that's crazy. And then like two days later I start it started to come up on the shorts and and on Instagram and on people that are evaluating. They're Are you are you are you guys seeing this too? You know, like you put ⁓ well you put ⁓ with their throwing motion next to each other and they're like, Brady must have been working with him because nobody else has that same mechanic, you know? And Not Last McGeee: Yep. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I mean Brady's You know he is. He's a ten percent owner. He's a partial owner. Of course he's out there working with the future of their franchise, right? So Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Daniel: So ⁓ now just because you you throw like Brady doesn't mean that you're gonna be Brady, but the the biggest thing that I really like Not Last McGeee: What the Jonathan: No, no. How many people have been behind Brady have failed as they come into the NFL, right? Daniel: Yeah. The intangibles that the kid has is the things that made me most excited about him. ⁓ Everything that they're talking about with him. So. Not Last McGeee: Well Britt. That The best thing about seeing him throw like Brady is the whole TB twelve investment that Brady put in to health and calisthenics and everything like that to optimize himself so that at the end of his career he was throwing harder, throwing faster, throwing better than he did earlier in his career. So to see to see Mendoza pick up those same things that Jonathan: absolutely. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: that Brady has as part of his whole program early in his career makes you think, okay, well how many games did Brady actually get hurt or miss toward the end of his career? Dude, he he could be an Iron Man going through and because you know, quarterbacks don't get hit like they used to. He could end up breaking Daniel: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Absolutely. Look at look at him now and look at him his picture from the draft. They they are not the same person. They they are that the one to the left is soft, he's round, he's he runs a little frantic. Brady turned himself around and made made something. I I you know, all that hate I have for Page Patriots back when Brady was winning. Daniel: Ha ha Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: Man, that dude did something, right? Like he did something. And he and he brought that to Tampa and we thank him for his service and thank you for your super bowl. ⁓ and ⁓ to be the first NFL team to win our Super Bowl. Yeah, we won we were the first NFL team to win a Super Bowl in our stadium. Eat that, Rams. Come on. Not Last McGeee: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Well we got the good version. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I I think I think that ⁓ he could be a twelve year Iron Man from fr it that's that's a pretty high ceiling and that would be pretty cool. Yeah. Jonathan: I know, I know. That's a very idea. Yeah, that's a very Daniel: Yeah, I mean i if he reaches his ceiling he's gonna be awesome for a really long time. He's gonna be you know, people are gonna be scared to play him because of the the mental ⁓ acuity that they're talking about and the the absolute obsessive, compulsive love for football that they keep on talking about him having. Like it's it's all of the those are all good things to hear, not just about Jonathan: Yeah. No Daniel: you know, how physically talented he is. But he's he is a monster. Like you you don't you look at him and you don't you don't look like it. He don't think about it. But then you see him next to normal people and you're like, holy shit, that dude's a monster. ⁓ so and like you said, like and he's gotten bigger, ⁓ this off season, ⁓ I think too, being being in professional regiments. ⁓ there's d there's yeah. Jonathan: It's big. Mm-hmm. Not Last McGeee: Yeah, he's a big dude. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ Daniel: I think he's the most improved. Jonathan: When you have the money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's a it's a lot. That's a lot. You could train right. You train right with that kind of money. So good for him. Good for him. Yeah. So okay. ⁓ all right, well, ⁓ thanks for joining us. ⁓ right into the show. FFWC two three at gmail dot com. ⁓ join us for our next segment. ⁓ more just continuation of our off season, right? We got Not Last McGeee: Yeah, that's right. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And you know, we still have time before our draft and our tags and all kinds of good stuff. So Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. We are coming into June, which is the dead month, dead season. We'll see what ⁓ what we we hear as far as news and speculations and things like that. Jonathan: News is but that's a game time. That's like what we did last year. That was when we did ⁓ like our ⁓ our courtroom, other fun stuff. We did some other fun stuff. So we'll come up with something. Yeah. It's the filler void. Yeah, it's the filler. So I'll we'll figure it out. So ⁓ yeah, yeah. Right into the show that helps out. We need it. ⁓ rate, like, review, subscribe. It really helps us. If you guys go out and take the time to do these things, ⁓ broadens our Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. There's that's fun stuff season. Yeah. Fill fill the void season. Not Last McGeee: Yeah. Jonathan: our our podcast. So thank you very much for listening. ⁓ thanks for listening. Thanks for marching with us. And ⁓ always Daniel: Keep grinding.