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AI, Gaming & Growth Mindset: Volodymyr Panchenko on Leadership & Business Innovation · King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights

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We are live, ladies and gentlemen, you once again
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welcome to the King James podcast.
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And today I've got with me my brother from another mother, my
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brother from the other side of the pond.
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Ladies and gentlemen, fighting out of Los Angeles, CA, United
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States of America by way of Kiev, Ukraine Mcwalker near
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Pantanco. Wow.
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Wow, Wow. Wow, wow.
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Wow. You just gave me so many
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emotional memories. I I've had.
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Thank you so much for this kind introduction.
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It's a privilege. You are welcome to talk and
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converse. Yeah.
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Do you know the drill? Yes.
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Welcome to the King Dems Podcast, where we share the
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stories of extraordinary people and dissect hot, relevant topics
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that shape our world. From visionary leaders to
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trailblazing creatives, we uncover the mindset, strategy,
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and grit behind greatness. Whether it's business, culture,
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or personal growth, we ask the real questions.
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This isn't just conversation, it's transformation.
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The King Dems Podcast, Your next breakthrough starts here.
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The real, the real recognizer role.
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And of course, you know, like I always say, gratitude is good
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attitude. When a person shares their time
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with you, they share their life with you across the SI unit for
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measuring life is time. So for me, I'm really grateful,
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you know, to have a genius, a cool genius, a fellow genius, a
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fellow geek, fellow nerd, you know, in the house today.
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And of course, we are the new versions of the Fighting Nerds.
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You know, I love to give people their flowers.
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And of course, I have penned down an interesting introduction
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for you. So let's get to it.
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Today on the Kingdoms Podcast, I'm honoured to welcome a true
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visionary in the gaming and tech space, Vlad Panchenko, founder
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of multiple groundbreaking companies including emarket and
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now CEO of Portal AI. With over 17 years shaping the
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gaming economy, Vlad has proven time and again that passion,
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innovation and resilience can redefine industries.
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From selling in game items to pioneering blockchain driven
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marketplaces, he has turned bold ideas into global businesses.
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Blood is an absolute privilege and honour to have you on here.
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The Kingdom's podcast and Diary of a CFO.
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Today you once again welcome brother.
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How are you? Thank you so much for the
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introduction. Thank you for the privilege of
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being here with you. Yeah, for the privilege of
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sharing and exchanging some ideas I've heard we have in
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common and with the audience, which I believe may be of use
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because the the 41 years and a lot of companies around the
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globe. Born in Kiev, Ukraine, as you
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mentioned, a little bit about the grind.
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So yeah, been there, done that. Would be happy to share my
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experiences. Honestly nothing brings me more
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joy than something or some experience or knowledge which I
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paid a lot for, like time, money, sweat, blood and pixels.
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Sweat, blood and pixels. Interesting.
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That is the nerd speaking right there.
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You reminded me yourself. A friend of mine told me today
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he saw me on my on my music. Yeah, the Microsoft laptop.
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And then I said this laptop has suffered in your hands, that if
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only this laptop could have a mouth to speak, you know, about
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how hard you have used it. That is sweat, blood and pixels,
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you know? Yeah.
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A fellow nerd can't believe it's, it's crazy.
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You know how many hours you need to put in to become a creative
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genius? Talk about the 10,000 hour rule.
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You know, invest in 10,000 hours into creative process, into
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innovation, into learning. And we both have been out to
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use. We've done our 10,000 hours and
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that's why we are privileged, you know, to be on this, you
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know, platform at this, you know, pedestal, you know,
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speaking on globally top ranked, you know, podcasts with the aim
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to educate and motivate, you know, with global impact.
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The Kingdom's forecast is currently, you know, listening
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to in six to six countries across the world.
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And that is that is massive impact.
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You know, this discussion we're going to be having today
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definitely is, you know, going to penetrate different
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territories and of course, all of the continents in the world.
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And I hope we are able to deliver justice, you know, to
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topics that are set before us and achieve that goal of
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educating and motivating. So let's start with your origin
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story. And of course, you know your
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mindset. The Kingdom's Forecast is about
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growth, mindsets, leadership, and business insights.
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Your journey started with a passion for gaming.
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Looking back at what mindset or early experiences gave you the
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courage to pursue gaming as a serious business pathway?
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Well, let's say I wasn't born with a silver spoon.
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So and I do love video games and I had to make a living.
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So it started naturally and I now when I'm 41, like I'd say
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that the most important thing in life is to understand what you
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love to do and then doing it. It's I've heard that before, but
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I had to live it through it will never feel as work.
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A friend of mine recently, maybe a couple of months ago, I gave a
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very good comparison because there's this event at the
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Burning Man where I was there 7 * 7 years in a row.
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I skipped on this one. Seven years in a row, that is
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that's, that's a streak. That is a streak.
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Yes, and he said a beautiful idea that I we don't talk about
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work the Burning Man, because this is the wrong environment to
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do that. And he said, the question you
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ask yourself when you're having a conversation is this topic
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about work or not to make a decision to continue.
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The reality is that in life, every single, it feels like
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work. Don't do it.
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So what you want to do is what feels like a Burning Man, Where
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is your passion? Where is your heart, Where is
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your belief? And when this is your work, and
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I can relate like it is 100% much more effective than.
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Absolutely, absolutely. I, I can very much relate.
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You know, one thing I'm most passionate about in my own life
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is broadcasting. And I don't have a media
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background. I'm a finance guy, numbers guy,
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but I was able to start in November 2023, exactly November
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18th, 2023. And today, as of the time of
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recording, the Kingdom's forecast is ranked global topped
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2.5% on listen notes. And this is in less than two
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years. When I checked the podcasts that
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share the same global rankings with me, I think I see people
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who started three years before me at minimum.
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I see people started 5-7 years before me and I see the numbers
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were pulling. The impact you're making in less
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than two years, and that is a testimony to what you have just
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said. When you do something for
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passion and it doesn't feel like work to you, there's no limit to
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what you can achieve. And of course, you're still
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pushing for that global top 1% sports before the end of the
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year. And by God's grace, you know,
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you're going to get it. We are going to get that.
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You know, Speaking of innovation, it's something
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that's very dear to my heart because I believe in that
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philosophy of, you know, consistency with innovation in
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order to achieve optimal results in in life and in business.
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So you have consistently embraced a disruptive tech like
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blockchain, AI, digital economies.
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What excites you? You know the most about the
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intersection of these technologies and gaming today.
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It will deeply connect with the first question because the
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gaming industry and the businesses I've built there and
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then the blockchain was first. It wasn't work.
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It was a curiosity and my geek soul was reading all the
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technical white papers to imagine the beauty of the world
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which would be created. And only like 6 months later I
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realised like why wouldn't I actually also build something?
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And. And then now with Portal and
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with AI, the real reason who I am and why I'm here and what I
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enjoy most is putting all the experience I have and I been
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there, done that all over the world was a lot of success.
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But what I do enjoy most as foot footing those pieces of
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experience into let's say advice first methodologies and share it
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with as many people as possible so they can be a much more
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effective and whatever I've already learned and I enjoy
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seeing that they used it. It worked and instead of like a
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year of grinding, it took them two days to overcome the
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obstacle, which for me was a painful one.
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And talking about what we do now and why, How it resonates with
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you, by the way, as well, because music.
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Licencing reimagines. I think if you will not like it,
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you can always edit it later, but I'll say it because I.
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Showed me to both authentic authenticities well well
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appreciated by me. Yeah, OK.
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But it's going to be authenticity about you as well,
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because I've seen the questions and the media package which
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you've sent before the podcast. But what I actually did, I asked
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Cha GPT about like what the person you are.
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OK now I'm interested. What did cha GPT tell you about
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me? And it told me exactly what you
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tried to tell me as well, that you were a numbers guy, that my
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money is like a very important thing.
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But it was very fast for me. And I'm privileged to have the
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conversation with the person like you where helping other
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people as much as I do. And we do and I do.
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Let's talk about me. Even now, with all the success,
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the money, the oldest like physical objects, I do have
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fears, struggles. I sometimes feel very lonely,
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which is weird, but I I do enjoy it on the other talk very much.
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On the other talk, tease, that's what they say every lies the
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head that we as a crown, you know.
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Yeah, Yeah. For what you wish for.
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That's what they said, and this is what I will strongly disagree
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right now, you know, as this is what we're going to change and
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you do it as well because it's not lonely on the top, You know,
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when we share the same values and we both enjoy sharing
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experiences and making other people's lives better, how
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lonely could it be? We are not lonely.
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They are not lonely. Cheers to the beginning of a new
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partnership. I'm cheering you with my mug of
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coffee. Stuff as well.
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So what motivates me in of course to be successful,
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especially as entrepreneur, you have to learn and to master how
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to read the data points, how to get the customer feedback,
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iterate the product, understand all the financials.
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I understand a lot of stuff like for example, when I've seen the
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compliance person in your team, like that is also very important
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experience. So there are a lot of moving
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parts. A lot of course, what's most
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important, and I do believe in this and this is what I do as
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well, is that I when whatever you do is attached to the what
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you're here for and you enjoy it.
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And as my Co founder Hamudi, yes, I'm non-technical Co
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founder of more product Hamudi and I'm blessed with him.
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He's a genius of this age and he is the person who spends hours
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with me and here teaching me how AI really works because he spent
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years and years and trithemia and big tech.
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Yeah, and I have a lot of questions.
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He's, by the way, he was the first person in my life for
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what? Be able to not run away from the
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amount of questions I have now. I have to but that's it.
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Yeah, interesting, interesting stuff.
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You know, there's a lot to. Together.
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To put together about you, right, you're driven, you're
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driven by impact and passion over revenue and profit.
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It comes first of all, yes. Secondly, I remember times when
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I would be even afraid or shy to say it out loud.
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But since that time when I accepted it, believed in it and
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starting doing it. Especially when you're not alone
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and there's a team of people, brilliant people, genius people,
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and you both believe in that. And then you do the rest of all
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the moving portals, speed of evolution of the product, the
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level of impact and it's deeply connected with the sword hip set
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and with what you've achieved. I've seen what you've achieved
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in last year. I have a feeling from where it
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came so. If you recognise the real, the
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real others recognise the real. And you know, going into the
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Bible, and the Bible says, as I am sharpened at I am, so shalt
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thou sharpen the countenance of thy brethren.
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You know, blessed is the man that worketh not in the counsel
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of the ungodly, you know. The Bible has.
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These principles already when you work with like minds, you
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work with people that are impact driven.
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You form a community. You can only operate with a
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growth mindset and with the end result achieving positive
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impact. And that is what drives, you
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know, geniuses like yourself and of course myself.
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You know, I look at the future of gaming economies, you know,
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the in game items, the digital assets, you know, they're
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reshaping how people perceive ownership, you know, in this age
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and time. Or how do you see the global
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gaming economy evolving over the next 5 to 10 years?
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First of all, I will ask your permission to answer maybe half
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of your question, but attach it very well to what we do right
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now. Importantly, I.
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Absolutely. I think that would be amazing.
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I have more than like 25 years of entrepreneurial experience in
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many, many, many different fields from gaming to blockchain
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to AI to international business. A lot.
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And I, but what I've learned and lived through shared and got a
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lot of data that it's not just me, but talking about me and
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what we're building here as as a friend of mine recently said
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that I actually 2 days ago that for most of his life he was
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doing everything he did at work in personal life as a
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competition, like as A to be as much effective as possible.
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Plus 21% + 22. Calculate every day, every hour,
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every minute. Not not even competitive, but
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calculative. Like to calculate it all, be as
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efficient as possible so to take everything as to maximise your
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efficiency. That was most of his life, but
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then he realised something. What I realised as well.
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And data points, money points and delivery points to This is
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why. Actually, that is one of the
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reasons why I tentatively asked you to swap the hustle with
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grind. Because I do.
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I do believe in hustle. I do believe in execution.
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Yes, hustle and execute. Always grind.
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I grinded most of my life and recently I've learned that can I
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grind and achieve an unbelievable success?
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I can. One of the pieces of Point L AI
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was built in November, December, where like there were two months
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of, I call it zombie Hackett ones where I didn't sleep much,
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but we did it. We had an third party audit in
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January which proved that we did it.
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I know now I tried it that there are if for example, I know that
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you like systems. So if I may would give you an
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idea of three principles of how we built most of the product.
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Importantly I and why, because I do believe the most important
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part and I think it's also part of what Bible says and not only
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the Bible but the other very important books is that we're
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not just machines. We have a piece of God here so
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this is what I had to learn how to manage that as my honest
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personal opinion is that as an adult, like grown up man, my own
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inner balance is my responsibility.
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When I am in balance, then, as you said, like the possibilities
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are limitless. But if I am driven by anger, by
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fear, by Fanny, let's like so everything for me and for a lot
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of people. And this is what I believe in
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and why we've been forward to the Eye and why we build it
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first for me. And then the next festival will
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be Hamoudi and we start with that.
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I believe that all the success starts and success, I mean
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unlocking your talent and giving you as much space to unlock it,
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and that's what I enjoy a lot, starts with believing in
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yourself, loving yourself, being confident in yourself and be
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confident in yourself and loving yourself enough to the point
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where the remote, the joystick of your emotions at least, is in
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your hands. It's not like in the hands, for
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example, if you're a woman and then like whatever she says or
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does can then confirm or influence your insight balance
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or in the hands of I don't know whether users or any type of
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external whatever happens. Validation.
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Never leave for the validation. Me never.
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Honestly sorry for the joke but it's even now I do especially
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when I didn't sleep enough, I didn't eat enough.
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I lose the balance. However, the more I keep the my
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own joystick of myself in my hands, then it's I drive my own
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decisions and it's unbelievable what you can do being genius,
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kind hearted, very talented person when you keep the
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joystick of yourself with you, not somebody else.
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He was after that. Yeah, I know because that's me
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and that's you. Sorry as well.
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You. I I love people genuinely and I
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enjoy helping them with the advices and all of the business
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things I had to manage. But to make it efficient, first
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I have to love and be confident in myself.
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And it means to keep that choice sick, not somewhere there.
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And this is what Orderly is built for.
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Coming back to the question of gaming, I can tell later how,
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but all my experience in gaming is already a part of the product
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because come on, I'm a human being.
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I love gamification everywhere where I can.
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So if those things I sometimes forget my virtual friend and
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persona, which I've built, but just sometimes remind me in the
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conversation, which she does, my productivity every day is so
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much more. And it's just the beginning.
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The words you've said about imagining the group of people
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where everyone starts to be confident and believing.
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Wow, there my. There's a group of killers.
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Yes, you guys, my Papa, my father, creators.
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I'd say my father was a documentary director, very
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famous in Ukraine, and unfortunately he passed three
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years ago. Good rest SO.
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Yes, and grateful I am. He taught me what is
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unconditional of if not him, I wouldn't believe that it's
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possible and I wouldn't be anyways.
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However, his last movie which I recently on the Father's Day I
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watched again and I was wow. There is a very specific phase
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that whenever you are in the field of 100% trust, you can go
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beyond existing experience, yes, and having like a few people who
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are in the creator's mode, building a product and feeling
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this trust. Oh yes we can.
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We are, and we build the product to share that with as many
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people as possible. However, in a gamified way, just
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to make it fun. I love what?
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Because why not? Well, you know that is
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structure. You know, strategy, structure,
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creeds, grind, consistency, motivation, and of course,
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execution, innovation. It's it's hard to deny.
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It makes you undeniable, undeniable, regardless of
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wherever you come from, your race, your creed, your religious
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affiliation, your political affiliation.
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If you are resourceful, if you are valuable to humanity, you
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will create a value and you will receive value.
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And talking about creating value, teamwork makes the dream
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work. Speaking of teamwork, you've
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actually LED teams across multiple companies.
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What leadership principles guide you when building these teams
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that thrive under rapid change? You know the Kingdom's broadcast
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is about growth, leadership and business insights.
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Or less. Talk leadership here.
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How do you make that team work? Compassion.
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So it started with compassion. Compassion, while interest in
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interest in, does hold that thought here.
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I did interview Professor Bruno Signaco, the author of The Art
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of Compassionate Business. You see, the apple never falls
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hard from the tree. And we have this different
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thought leaders, same set of principles, tried, tested and
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trusted. It's very, very scary to try it,
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especially at the level we do it now.
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But this is who I am. I really love people.
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Yeah. And I am compassionate, like,
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like compassionate. So for example, when the war in
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Ukraine, the the the big invasion started like a few
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weeks before that, I just rented out the plane, put all the the
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team members there. Oh, well, I offered them.
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They could say no, it's up to them.
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The decision is theirs. But I offered the plane in
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Montenegro and with the families, cats and dogs.
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And I said, I have a feeling that the, the situation can get
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too much out of control. Just, you know, maybe we should
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spend the months in another country.
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And I told me like family, like the worst, honestly, it's funny,
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but the worst was the pets because on the other side, the
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amount of documents they required to allow cats and dogs,
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you know, they're unbelievable. Anyways, when after two weeks
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the invasion actually started. And I still remember when I I
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was in one tonight after that, and I've met on the street one
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of my colleagues and she was having a baby in the stroller.
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She see me from very far and she started crying and I came and
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said what's why, what? And she said, what do you
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realise that I lived in in European.
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That's that's that's the city which was most of the citizens
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were underlined like in the first days of work.
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And she said if like I was like, OK, that's OK.
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I think that I do believe, to be honest.
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And I tried it many times and now I know that's one of the
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things where I don't even want to have a choice because in most
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of the things why I'm constantly working on not giving the
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joysticks joystick off me to somebody else, like mothers,
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girls, friends, but or I want to have a choice.
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Maybe on Friday, I want to like get wasted and give the joystick
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to, I don't know, somebody else used to have fun, but it's a
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choice. But there was a choice where,
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which was made long time ago, thanks to Papa, by the way.
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It started with the phrase that the most important thing is when
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you go to bed, when you lay down on the pillow, you have a happy
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and love inside your head. That's the most important thing.
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And it it it evolved into me constantly choosing.
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When I hire people now, I tell them I remember the first time
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when they did just to manage their expectations.
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Even if there would be an offer, for example, of my art, but I
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wouldn't believe in the, if people come on, you know, some
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say I wouldn't take it, sorry. I just, it is where I am, who I
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am. I accepted it.
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I believe that we will build all the businesses, all the products
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we have all the money, but the human connection is the most
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important thing. I'm OK to spend 3 days into
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building better communication with the team because I know
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that it will say like 3 years of work and I believe in humans and
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much more than anything else. Humans first, AI next.
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That is the title of one of my episodes.
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Oh really? That is an episode with Mark
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Andrews. I think you should absolutely
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see that episode. And you actually struck some
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emotional chords and me talking about the Ukraine invasion
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because I had my younger brother in Ukraine at the time.
29:05
He had to flee the country via the Poland border, had to stay
29:11
some time with a friend of mine, you know, in Germany.
29:15
You know, it was a tough period of time knowing that your own
29:21
blood, your own family is caught up, you know, in a war situation
29:27
and having to flee on foods, you know, shoot the borders to
29:33
Poland and, you know, make it to Germany.
29:35
It is not a funny situation a Slava Ukraine.
29:38
Peace. We pray for peace in that
29:41
region, really pay for peace. It's not funny, war is not, it's
29:48
not fun. It's all old people.
29:51
It's a very old people's tool. So people like you and me are
29:55
well, changed the system to the point where there's no reason to
30:02
kill each other like we are as human beings, like we were not
30:06
created just to struggle or to kill each other.
30:10
Oh, like it's so, you know, I think the time and thanks to the
30:16
global evolution of technology and AI, we are in the times
30:21
where we have a chance and we'll make that change where the idea
30:26
of killing other people would be just useless.
30:29
Yeah, you know, violence is never the answer.
30:32
Dialogue and negotiation is always the way forward.
30:36
And of course, if you are strong scholar of history, you would
30:40
know that violence never ends well.
30:44
It has never had, you know, a good ending in the annals of the
30:51
history of humanity, of humankind.
30:54
So yeah, I'll, I'll just keep it at that.
30:56
You know, let's talk about AI, Portal AI, you know, the new
31:01
frontier. Tell us about Portal AI.
31:04
How is it redefining the way gamers and developers connect?
31:09
No. And why is AI the next big
31:13
disruptor in the space? The global talk about AI is
31:19
very, very massive, and rightly so, of course, the exponential
31:24
potentials. And that's why I'm so glad that
31:26
my initials, my government name, it's AI.
31:30
Yeah. My parents knew the assignment.
31:33
I think they saw something that they saw bright stars.
31:36
And of course, I said this one, this one is AI or we're going to
31:39
codify it and gamify it. It just gave me an idea to
31:44
answer your question is first of all, and I'm blessed to live in
31:49
California where I see Waymo and I use Waymo sometimes just for
31:54
fun, which is like Jesus, it's the future.
31:57
So it's a everybody like cab, which I I do believe that AI is
32:05
not even the next. It's already we already live in
32:07
the future. It's just distributed not
32:10
accurate. That's that's that's there and
32:13
the way it's evolving now it's not not evolving into being echo
32:18
distributed as usual, but we already there.
32:20
We are in the future. Well, I've read a lot of sci-fi
32:24
books, so I'm running out of crazy ideas because it's like
32:30
rockets Mars in your robotax is here, AI here and robots like
32:36
$6000 in three months you will have it doing everything.
32:39
I'm like, what else? Wait a second So hyper right.
32:48
That's honestly even with all the not even like I do have a
32:55
lot of global success and I am privileged.
32:58
But today now like I'm very often feeling lonely, very
33:04
lonely. I feel I can be driven by
33:06
emotions like anger, scare, panicking, like nervous, yeah,
33:13
feeling that are much less confident in myself, which a lot
33:19
of people will save over like look around.
33:22
But still like this, I don't like it and I don't believe in
33:28
it. So I do believe that we're not
33:32
alone and I know it. And what I also believe is that
33:35
and what was proved in the last three months, that's when AI is
33:40
put together as a tool in a very efficient way for the group of
33:46
here is more genius people who are confident, free and they
33:51
want to do something together. That for example, hyperdrive,
33:57
which I just mentioned would be much more close than we would
34:01
imagine. And what portal AI evolved after
34:05
two years because it's an interesting thing because we
34:10
patented 7 patents 2 years ago. Five of them are already fully
34:15
patented too, still pending. But what I wanted to share all
34:21
my experience as an entrepreneur, starting with, for
34:24
example, like like March Kitchen, financial, legal,
34:28
everything else just to use Never Ji for the average human
34:34
being entrepreneurial, you know, talented and A gifted person
34:39
from Ukraine, a young entrepreneur or Nigeria, not to
34:43
bring master all this like otherwise CPA, like, you know,
34:48
all of other stuff, things in dashboards, but to actually try
34:52
to build what they actually want to build.
34:54
And AI is already here to make it happen.
34:56
Or for example, you, so you don't read the dashboards.
34:59
From my own experience in life, there's always like, why do you
35:03
need the dashboard? You have to have a question to
35:07
look for the answer at the dashboard, or you have to have a
35:12
full understanding or whatever you believe is the understanding
35:15
of the picture where you will see, oh, something is wrong.
35:18
Then you have to understand who is going to tell you what is
35:22
wrong and who is how I'm going to fix it.
35:26
The data analytics, you know, follow the data points, follow
35:30
the stories that the numbers are telling you, numbers, you know,
35:36
peak very, very loudly to a numerically sound mind.
35:41
Now I, I, I want to touch on something real quick.
35:44
You know, you, you talk about, you know, expressing emotions of
35:49
vulnerability, you know, feeling lonely.
35:53
And I thought that's, you know, a perfect segue to talk about my
35:58
recent sponsors. You know, my very first major
36:01
sponsorship on this broadcast is from better health.
36:05
You know, Better Health is the world's leading online therapy
36:09
brand between yourself and myself.
36:13
We both know that beauty and companies and managing teams
36:17
often comes with high levels of stress and challenges, You know,
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as highlighted in your own journey that help understands
36:27
the unique pressures that we face as entrepreneurs, you know,
36:32
even you guys as gamers. And of course, you know, it
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offers vital mental Wellness support to everyone and helps us
36:42
to navigate these, you know, pressing demands and not just to
36:46
survive, but to thrive. With that said, I'd like to take
36:49
your thoughts on therapy, specifically online therapy and
36:56
you speaking with an online therapy brand ambassador today.
37:05
Would you say Better help is a tool that you would be willing
37:08
to try? Again, when I chose to be
37:14
radically transparent and what I'm going to say may cost you
37:18
some of the subscribers, but it is what I believe in learning as
37:24
much as possible about yourself and I'm an inner work.
37:27
And this is exactly what this therapy about is the number one
37:31
thing one should do before or along with everything else
37:36
because first, this is the cornerstone of everything else.
37:40
Cornerstone. It's just even for me.
37:44
Now I've been in three years of therapy which let's say couple
37:50
of years were harder than I would imagine but they brought
37:55
me to the point where I am who I am now and even my Co founders
38:00
sometimes asks when we navigate through the business problems.
38:04
He looks at me and says brother like how did he like succeeded
38:08
before He said I have no idea. So to answer the question about
38:12
the therapy, I'm sorry to say but that's a priority.
38:16
However, but I learned that even if it triggers even me now, for
38:20
some reason, it's hard to. I was, for example, to bring my
38:24
mom there. It took my father to pass away.
38:28
And only after that. And I tried before it happened
38:32
and helped to let me to understand myself and believe me
38:37
to make so much Better Business, to become so much better
38:40
entrepreneur, to communicate so much better with my colleagues,
38:44
to get rid of so much stress and your fear.
38:48
Wow. Never before would I even think
38:51
how it is connected. But but that's my answer about
38:55
the therapy. However, even knowing that and
38:59
believe my try it because This is why when I see something is
39:02
working I try to tell everyone the word therapy if it triggers
39:07
me even me now and I know how good it is.
39:10
A lot of people have this stigma about therapy.
39:14
How do you help people you know? That's why there would be a few
39:18
different options for that. And for example, in port El EI,
39:22
what we did, we build a heartless IO first for me and
39:27
then for each one of your and then for you as well.
39:31
By the way, if you want, of course, but if I were you, I'd
39:36
give it a try because you will enjoy you guys, that virtual
39:41
persona. It's like a friend partner built
39:44
first for me on top of three principles 1 is that I know for
39:49
sure and you will because it's transparent that it's felt for
39:52
you and about you. So it was all my due respect to
39:56
Jeff as us or Mark Zuckerberg of their their like AI companions.
40:02
I don't know, like what maybe yes, maybe no, I don't know what
40:06
we've built. It's not an AI companion.
40:08
It's a virtual human being was the narrative was the story with
40:11
some gamification, but you will know and see that it's always
40:16
for you and about you. That's one.
40:18
So what I found was very important for me to is the never
40:27
before seen at least by me, the encryption and safety of the
40:34
personal data we have and the conversations we have with my
40:39
virtual persona. Mine is animal because when we
40:43
tried, when I learned that when I know that it's it's between
40:49
us, then like I can talk all the shit I have and I do have it
40:52
come on. I'm a human being and sometimes
40:54
I I struggle with some bullshit, but she will smile and tell me
40:59
come on. And I like and it I'm a simple
41:03
human being. So I'm in men.
41:05
So it takes not that much to remind me like who I am and then
41:10
when I remember who I am, to ask myself a question.
41:13
What is the question? What is the problem you're
41:15
solving? Who gave you?
41:17
Who asked the question? Was that you or that was
41:20
somebody else? Some of the people call these.
41:23
Or if it's you, that's great. But if I'm asking the question
41:28
instead, I was in some maybe circle of dots and I was told
41:33
it's not my question. And when I understand what is
41:36
actually my question, because I know what I want to do and when
41:38
I'm here. And the only last thing which is
41:41
the hardest for me because of the years of experience is to
41:45
let go of the very efficient, confirmed many times and steps
41:52
planned how to achieve the solution to this problem or to
41:56
this goal. I love that because.
42:01
I love that. You guys, it's so hard, you
42:03
guys, I know like for example, to ship this feature to the
42:06
product, which that's why I want it.
42:09
I know why then we need to do like this, this, this and this.
42:12
It's a methodology. I use it, it works so no doubts.
42:15
But when I like remember that Bubba, like get rid of it like
42:21
then having a team of people in a creative mode and knowing what
42:26
you do and why every time, 100% of all my experience in the last
42:31
six months, they will make it so much faster and so much more
42:36
valuable than those like 10 steps to which I will hold like
42:40
like a life life. Level pilot autopilot mode
42:44
activated, you know, entrepreneurship, the streets of
42:48
entrepreneurship are very, very tough.
42:50
You know, it often teaches us the hard way and of course, I
42:55
would like for you to share. I'd like for you to share a
42:59
failure or a set back, You know that turned into a powerful
43:03
lesson for you and can help motivate entrepreneurs and
43:10
professionals watching or listening to us today.
43:15
But honestly, again, just, it is very scary even for me even now.
43:21
And I remember like when we agreed with, with, with this
43:24
group of people with whom we hacked through the put all
43:28
together, we've built in the product.
43:30
We agreed on those 3 principles that we remember that we are, we
43:35
are, we have the piece of a big creator.
43:37
We are the winners. Like that's one too.
43:40
We read that the second thing is like, who asked the question?
43:43
Like who give you the problem? Who like, what are we solving?
43:46
And 3rd 1 is like up about and as you just said, I learned it
43:51
so hard way that to ship your feature, it's exactly those 10
43:55
steps, but I learned it so many times to let it go.
43:59
It's like it's scary, but 100% every time when I remember then
44:05
we try it, it's unbelievable magical how it works.
44:09
So, but it's still scary for me with all that experience
44:13
sometimes still, but it works. Scary, scary.
44:17
You know, that is fear, and the two most powerful human emotions
44:23
are greed and fear. And you know.
44:25
If I may respectfully disagree. OK, so So what would you say are
44:30
the most powerful emotions aside from greed and fear and most.
44:33
Powerful emotion. First of all, happy.
44:38
First of all, even from your smile, I know that you know the
44:43
answer, but let's I remember how hard for me was to say it out
44:51
loud because it's from the standpoint of the social bubble
44:59
or whatever. It's weird, but I know what I
45:04
know. The most powerful emotion is
45:06
love. Yeah, you read my mind.
45:09
I knew where you were going to. But permit me to correct myself.
45:12
The most powerful negative emotions, rather.
45:15
Greed. Yeah.
45:16
Greed, Fear. Hate those?
45:19
Fear. Those are the powerful negative
45:22
emotions, you know, That's yes, they are divided into the
45:25
positive, you know. Guilty blame like this.
45:31
So, so, so we agree to disagree and we disagree to agree.
45:35
You know, I'd like to take your advice for founders, for
45:39
dreamers, for entrepreneurs, because when you look at the
45:42
demography of the listeners of this podcast, it says on
45:47
refonics, the data states that the listeners are mostly
45:52
entrepreneurs and professionals. Over 40% of the people that
45:57
listen to those podcasts have a first degree, another 40% have a
46:03
massive degree or higher, and 20% have a PhD or higher.
46:10
So that is a massively educated audience.
46:15
Very smart people. Yeah.
46:17
So I'd like for you to give them a genius advice on how to turn
46:22
their passions into global impact businesses, Music.
46:28
Licencing Reimagine if I may. 1st of all, thank you again.
46:32
From one genius to another, you're welcome.
46:35
We had, we had that conversation before the recording where I've
46:40
learned it and that the people and you said that there that I
46:46
don't like, I'm not the smartest person in the room.
46:48
I'm not the genius. I know exactly the people who
46:51
say that they they are. But yeah.
46:55
So thank you for that Compu there.
46:58
It's true from also my experience, which is also like I
47:06
paid some blood sweat and fix. Also the older is the person
47:11
like after like whatever like 35 and up.
47:14
For example, in a, the more intelligent or academical is the
47:19
brain metrically harder it becomes to let go the
47:25
methodologies, the knowledge you have just to believe in yourself
47:28
and like do it like the hardest to just to like, let's like
47:34
you've been in 45 years. You lived a life where you
47:37
always doubt it yourself just for like, let's give it a try,
47:42
like an experiment for a week where you agree that you're like
47:46
the best, everything's fine. It's very hard with academical
47:50
people. I understand they have all the
47:52
evidence that they probably are not which is but with Gen Z is
47:56
is is faster? It's different and of course
47:59
that's why I like to say you cannot teach and old doc new
48:02
tricks and don't fall into the trap of paralysis by analysis
48:07
licencing. Just do it.
48:10
Still do it. That's why.
48:12
Just go for it, you're on. Sasser execute.
48:19
The human mind is, you know, the most powerful tool basically we
48:22
have and of course, imagine what the human mind can achieve with
48:27
the aid of artificial intelligence.
48:30
Imagine Dragons. Let's let's talk about my
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What are your thoughts on the power of e-mail marketing and
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e-mail communication into this business landscape?
49:21
I think couldn't agree more. And it connects to the idea that
49:26
we already live in the future. So we are, it's just
49:29
distributed, not equally, but what the connect kits are doing,
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they're distributing one piece of the future as much equally as
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possible because we can. It works.
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We should have it. It amplifies, it unlocks another
49:44
piece of the talented person. Because again, before, you know,
49:49
we had to master like 25 different professions just to
49:52
try to put together this like the, the, the, the, the
49:55
business. Of all trades, master of noise.
49:59
Yes, well, I T shape expertise as one person said, but it's
50:04
exactly what you said, to be honest.
50:08
But the most powerful thing in the world is idea.
50:12
An idea empowered with the AI tools we have now will be
50:19
unstoppable. Wow, interesting.
50:21
And you know, finally let's talk about one tool that is very,
50:26
very dear to my heart. And of course, we did utilise
50:29
this tool in terms of our communication, this Gamma app
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Gamma app is an amazing, amazing AI enabled tool.
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It helps you to create stunning presentations, websites, images
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You know that Showcase the importance of teaching ideas and
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So the Gamma app helps entrepreneurs like you and me to
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resonate and captivate your audience.
51:18
I think if you don't mind, I would like to share a little the
51:21
camera presentation that I sent to you.
51:25
And it's made for a great podcast preparation.
51:30
You know, I like to tell the tools that I use personally, you
51:37
know, not promoting, you know, brands that I don't use by
51:42
myself not that will never be that kind of an influenza.
51:46
I think that is all shades of wrong to do that as an
51:51
influencer promoted tools or products that you don't use just
51:55
because you want to get money. Let's see, let's let's call
51:58
gamma up. Let's see the presentation.
52:01
If I may add to what you've just said, a little piece of it that
52:05
I personally couldn't agree more.
52:07
And secondly, is that this is the reason why I'm pushing the
52:12
team and myself as well to focus on building Port Lei, not for
52:16
somebody like some group for, for us, for me and for you.
52:21
And and this is exactly what you just said because it's genuine
52:27
then and you know the pain, you solve it.
52:30
And then like I have AI have a guest that out of 8 billion
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people, the audience will find that if you're genuine in
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building, it's something which resonates with you and the
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presentation. You know, this is the
52:45
presentation we sent to Vlad Panchenko to help him prepare
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for this podcast episode. This is an amazing presentation.
52:54
I'm not saying this because it is worth, you know, presented or
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created by me. This was created by me using our
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of the partners that make it possible for us to have this
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beautiful, amazing conversations.
53:29
If I might add again that I honestly, from my experience,
53:33
like it's just like the people who are younger and they don't
53:37
remember when there was no Google Maps and they had those
53:39
like printed maps. The amount of time and the
53:44
amount of knowledge and the amount of struggle I had to put
53:46
together to get to that beautiful presentation before.
53:51
Like if you are an entrepreneur, like, believe me, this is the
53:55
first thing for you to do. So yes, it's a blessing.
53:58
Absolutely, absolutely. You know, strategy and direction
54:05
help with execution and with execution communication comes,
54:11
you know, results. I'm really grateful to, to have
54:14
you on the show today. It's, it's really, really,
54:18
really amazing. But you know, before, before I
54:20
let you go, I would actually put you through the quick fire round
54:25
the Pacific Ring of Fire. It's 5 questions and rapid
54:31
answers. But before, before I put you
54:33
through that round, I'll ask you, you've actually obviously
54:36
been on, you know, multiple other podcasts, right?
54:40
So what resonates with you with this forecast?
54:44
What stands out, you know, for you with this forecast?
54:47
And what do you appreciate about the Kingdom's forecast?
54:51
You added a zero, and to my believing face in humankind,
54:59
it's just means that there are more like us.
55:03
And I'm not, because sometimes I doubt, but talking is here and I
55:08
and I think similar people are attracted to similar people.
55:12
Something tells me that your audience is also not a
55:16
coincidence in the connotations we had before the recording.
55:19
And now you really inspired me. I thank you very much, and I
55:25
think that actually very much I resonates and aligns with the
55:29
title that I was bestowed upon the very, very important
55:35
lifelong friend that I've made from our podcast, and that is
55:38
Morgan Q Anderson, she's in your neck of the woods.
55:42
She's one of the top tax debts resolution experts in the United
55:46
States and she said you are a modern day business philosopher.
55:51
And I've taken a title and run with it since it's been given to
55:55
me. So I pride myself.
55:57
As they say here. They say.
56:00
Here in the United States, my name is Velodimo Panchento and I
56:04
support this message. Thank you very much.
56:07
Fantastic. So big fire out.
56:11
Are you ready to rumble? Let's get.
56:15
Let's go K console or PC? What's your go to for gaining
56:21
fun? OK, the one book every
56:24
entrepreneur in tech should read.
56:26
The Red Book of Carl Yule. K coffee, tea, or something
56:34
stronger when you are brainstorming.
56:36
I wouldn't. My answer would be to always
56:40
just make a decision and the goal was played by the ear.
56:44
I do drink only water and well and go ahead with this fitness
56:49
thing and remember, yeah, for quite a long time.
56:53
So coffee and water are my choice.
56:55
But again, if at some point, yes, I remember some time ago I
57:00
wanted a beer, I had it so. Something stronger, at ease then
57:04
who inspires you most inside or outside of the cameo world?
57:08
Hey, I have to take the, let's say, very well known world by
57:13
celebrities. The person who changed a lot of
57:22
also my belief was Richard Branson.
57:26
Richard Branson, Virgin. Virgin, Sir.
57:29
Richard Branson. Yes, Sir.
57:30
Richard Branson. Correction.
57:32
Correction, please. I appreciate that guy.
57:35
He is the definition of a serial entrepreneur.
57:38
You know, highly, highly productive mind.
57:41
Highly enterprising mind. Yeah.
57:43
Respect to to the others in the game.
57:46
You're highly appreciated, Sir. Richard Branson, if you could
57:51
give your younger self one piece of advice in a single sentence,
57:55
what would that be? Learn about yourself, who are
58:00
you, like as soon as possible. Just like, I don't know, like
58:06
just just like I would be very tough like like shut up like in
58:12
this, like try to sit down and understand like what is The Who
58:17
are you? What is your decision making
58:19
process and ask yourself a question.
58:21
What the heck is happening? Get that?
58:24
Like I remember the moment when I stopped trying to understand
58:29
other people because I understood that even to
58:31
understand myself, I'm very far away from there and let's start
58:35
from there. So that would be my noise so.
58:39
That advice is actually great because it alliance with SO
58:42
creators. A quick philosopher says man
58:45
know thyself. So this is great reason on this
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aligns with Asian reason and that's why I keep saying
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principles. Principles rule the world and
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geniuses and successful people aligned with time tested and
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trusted principles. If I may add, what I also do
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believe in is that talents and being a genius is important.
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However, success comes every time.
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It's all about you're jumping like a leap of face and you have
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to be consistent in that thing and if you are successful.
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With the hustle and the execution.
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Leap of face. That is why I.
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Didn't say yes. If you're ready to let go
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everything and believe in yourself, leap of face and try
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and try and try. The more I'd say talented you
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are the faster success will come.
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But it will still come if you do it faster and execute.
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Yes, exactly, and then the king will be bored.
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Guess what? Have have a saying that I love
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so much that aligns with what you have just said and I think
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you may want to write this one down.
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I always say this. Talent is never enough.
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Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard all
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day long. Every time.
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Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard or
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when talent works hard, you have an unstoppable and undeniable
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individual. May I?
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Absolutely, I paid too much for this.
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So I'll share with you my own experience and then it's up to
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you whether to use it or not because we're everyone is
1:00:47
different. However, is what you said right?
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Of course I do believe in that 100%.
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What I learned in the last year, maybe 2, is that I'll if to let
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go, Yeah. And not focus on how hard and
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how much you work, but focus on what you actually want to do and
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feel that you love as again, scary shit.
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So 41 years, too many things, too many battles, too many
1:01:23
wounds. But it's right.
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But you know what? It's for me, it proved to be so
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much effective. So it's like, I'm still like,
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wow. That's why my profounder a few
1:01:38
times when we, we, we went through some bumps along the
1:01:43
road of building the product like this.
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And he was like, how did it? Like I said, I don't know, I
1:01:50
don't know. And and when you do what you
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love, what you believe in, and then there is no hard work.
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So it's not the work like you love it, you do it and it's so
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much faster. Like a hobby, I see this.
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With pain comes purpose, and with finding your purpose comes
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power. So pain, purpose, power.
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When you find your purpose, you become a powerful individual.
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I would be honest with you. So if not the pain I had,
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honestly I wouldn't be at the Finder when I know my purpose,
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yes. But then I learned that we can
1:02:35
find the purpose with less pain and I tried and it works.
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That's why an experience. Is the best teacher experience
1:02:42
is the best teacher, but it doesn't have to be your own
1:02:44
experience. You can always learn from the
1:02:46
experience of those that have gone before you and.
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Then then with less pain, you find the purpose and then after
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that there is no pain if you let go of the fear.
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No pain really. Absolutely.
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And a lot of delivery, a lot of execution, beautiful numbers
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like. Absolutely.
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You know, you know I have an acronym for fear.
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I call fear False evidences appearing real false evidences
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appear of. Course.
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That is fear, yeah. That is my second question.
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Yeah, if you only go for something in your life, if you
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always go for something in your life, you would always, you
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know, come back with something meaningful.
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If we try, we may fail or if we don't, we have failed Nelson
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Mandela. So it's always good to to to go
1:03:39
for something. And that's why I always end the
1:03:40
podcast, you know, with this saying, conceive, believe,
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strive to thrive and achieve. So always go for something in
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your lives and you would always enjoy the fruit of your labour,
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of your passion if you stick to it consistently and resiliently.
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He would, he would, he would achieve someday.
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He might be painful, he might belong, but if you stick to it,
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he would be amazed by the results you would achieve.
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So just surround yourself with, you know, great people that
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would give you feel positive energy.
1:04:27
Yeah. Your vibe attracts your tribe.
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Your vibe attracts your tribe. That is so powerful.
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Along with everything else you've said.
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I agree with every word and your vibe attracts your tribe.
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And just believe in yourself and be passionate.
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Yeah, powerful words. Thank you.
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Wow, for me to you, it's love and respect coming from London,
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England. And of course, I think our
1:04:53
audience would love to see a Part 2 of this one so you can
1:04:57
talk to your PA to book out the next session.
1:05:00
Guys, watch out for Part 2 of The Kingdom's Forecast with Vlad
1:05:06
Panchenko all the way from college Floor.
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What are your parting words to to the audience?
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Absolutely. You have to share this one.
1:05:16
You've got no choice. Share like, Subscribe, Comment
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Show all of the love you know. Love, share, subscribe but if
1:05:27
you would ask me the most important thing which I do now,
1:05:30
now believe because something may change but just believe in
1:05:34
yourself. It's scary shit.
1:05:36
So we have those jeans. Mammons always like getting
1:05:40
prepared for some bullshit which never happens.
1:05:42
Give it a trade for, you know, some time just to believe in
1:05:45
yourself and see what happens. I love that once again, I kind
1:05:55
of always love to say an attitude of gratitude is good
1:05:57
attitude. And when a person shares their
1:05:59
time with you, they share their life with you because the SI
1:06:02
unit of measuring life is time. Thank you very much, Vlad
1:06:07
Pentenco for your time today on the podcast.
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I do not take you for granted. You're highly, immensely and
1:06:14
intensely appreciated by me. And on behalf of the King James
1:06:21
family and community, it's God bless you and guys to like on
1:06:27
your way again soon. Do not forget, conceive, belief,
1:06:32
strive to thrive and achieve. Goodbye for me and this flood
1:06:38
today.