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Constitutional Sheriff Mack on Murder of America · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's six eastern it's three o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Pacific the u.s military has struck more than 50 isis
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  Speaker 2: targets in the past two hours.
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  Speaker 1: Coast to coast and around the world from the america
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  Speaker 1: out loud talk radio studios.
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  Speaker 2: Following the president's order to quote hit them hard after
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  Speaker 2: the killing of three americans saturday it's time for the
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  Speaker 2: truth be told with booker scott.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight's show would have been a lot different at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of this hour had Donald Trump decided to do
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  Speaker 1: what he had planned. The U.S. military had planned to
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  Speaker 1: bomb into oblivion the country of Iran on Tuesday. Other
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  Speaker 1: Arab nations came to Donald Trump and said, please don't
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  Speaker 1: do this right now. We are negotiating with Iran. We're
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  Speaker 1: getting close. This may be the off-ramp that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: has been looking for, to get out of Iran and
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East right now. I'm Booker. This is The
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  Speaker 1: Truth Be Told. And thank you for joining us. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Before we get to Iran, I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this race in Kentucky, Kentucky 4.
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  Speaker 1: That is Ed Galran, supported and endorsed by Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: against Thomas Massey. Those results are going to be coming
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  Speaker 1: in in just a little bit. Going to be interesting
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  Speaker 1: to watch that one. There are other primaries going on today.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Barr in Kentucky against Daniel Cameron, another race that's
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  Speaker 1: interesting to watch. That is for Mitch McConnell's seat. Andy Barr,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Cameron. That's going to be interesting to watch as well.
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  Speaker 1: While I'm talking about politics, quickly, I want to go
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  Speaker 1: to the state of Florida. Everybody says, well, Florida is
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  Speaker 1: deep red. It's safe. DeSantis and Donald Trump won by 1.6
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  Speaker 1: million votes. And I have said for a while, Florida
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  Speaker 1: is not deep red. Look around at elections over the
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  Speaker 1: last few months. You have the mayor of Miami. You
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  Speaker 1: have Boca Raton mayor. You have special elections for the
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  Speaker 1: General Assembly in Florida that have flipped from Republican to Democrat.
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  Speaker 1: So something is happening in the state of Florida. It's purple.
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  Speaker 1: It has always been purple. And I think maybe we
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  Speaker 1: are seeing that shade of purple come back right now,
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  Speaker 1: even though it's been strong in support of Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: that may be the fact that it's showing itself as
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  Speaker 1: purple again. Donald Trump endorsed Byron Donalds to replace Governor
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  Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis. I think the endorsement was too early. And
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  Speaker 1: from what I hear in the state of Florida, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people were not happy with the endorsement. They
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  Speaker 1: don't think that Byron Donalds is maybe the best choice
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  Speaker 1: for the state of Florida, that maybe he will not
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  Speaker 1: be the best governor for the state and maybe not
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  Speaker 1: the best candidate. And The latest poll or the first
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  Speaker 1: poll that ever shows that his competitors actually ahead just
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  Speaker 1: came out. His competitor is David Jolly. David Jolly was
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  Speaker 1: a Republican just two years ago. In fact, he was
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  Speaker 1: a U.S. congressman in Congressional District 13, which is where
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  Speaker 1: Anna Paulina Luna sits now. And he got out of Congress.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Crist took his place for a little while, and
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  Speaker 1: then Anna Paulina Luna took won the seat, beat Charlie Chris,
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  Speaker 1: and now Charlie Chris is running for mayor in the
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  Speaker 1: city of St. Petersburg in Tampa Bay. These names just
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  Speaker 1: always resurface, don't they? And David Jolly is another one
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  Speaker 1: of those. Former Republican just two years ago, he flips
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  Speaker 1: to become a Democrat, and now he is leading Byron
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  Speaker 1: Donald's 46-42. So obviously there are some undecided, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it shows some chink in the armor there of
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  Speaker 1: Byron Donald's. unfortunately. And I wish that Donald Trump had
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  Speaker 1: not endorsed him so early. A lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: saying that in the state of Florida. So we'll watch
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  Speaker 1: that race as it goes through the year and we
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  Speaker 1: get to November. We'll see what happens there. There's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of good Republicans running against Byron Donalds, but they
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  Speaker 1: really don't have a shot at it. Byron Donalds has
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  Speaker 1: raised a lot of money and the polls are way
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  Speaker 1: out ahead for Byron Donalds on the Republican side for
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  Speaker 1: that nomination. Let's get to Iran because the Arab nations
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  Speaker 1: have come to the rescue for the time being for
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  Speaker 1: the country of Iran. And the Arab nations, they don't
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  Speaker 1: want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. And they've jumped
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  Speaker 1: in and said these negotiations are going well. Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: do not bomb Iran right now. And I think maybe
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  Speaker 1: this may be the thing that Donald Trump can use.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's the thing that he was looking for. The
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  Speaker 1: rhetoric Donald Trump has used against Iran really has not
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  Speaker 1: been effective. The leadership in the country, they really don't
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  Speaker 1: care what he says. It's just another bluff to them
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  Speaker 1: at this point, because in reality, you have to look
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  Speaker 1: at this and be truthful about it, that most of
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  Speaker 1: these have been bluffs. President Trump also cautioned that There
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  Speaker 1: won't be anything left of them talking about Iran if
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  Speaker 1: they fail to rush through a deal to end the war.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote that on Truth Social. And he says, quote,
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  Speaker 1: the clock is ticking, unquote, for Iran. They better get
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  Speaker 1: moving fast or there won't be anything left of them.
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  Speaker 1: Time is of the essence. Again, Tuesday was the day
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  Speaker 1: that America's military had planned to bomb Iran. And Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is now saying they better move fast. And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if the leadership of Iran is paying any attention
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  Speaker 1: at all to this. I hope that they are. And
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  Speaker 1: whether they are or not, I think Maybe Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: and the administration may be smart at this point to
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  Speaker 1: leave it to the Arab nations in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: They have a lot at stake. It costs them a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money with the Strait of Hormuz as well.
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  Speaker 1: They are having problems and issues with oil and getting
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  Speaker 1: it out of the region, and it's costing them. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Iran has bombed the UAE. They've bombed them terribly, over 2,000
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  Speaker 1: bombs to the UAE. Saudi Arabia is another one. And
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  Speaker 1: those are a couple of the countries that are working
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  Speaker 1: with Iran in negotiating some sort of peace. I would
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  Speaker 1: think that if the Arab nations are okay with Iran's
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is in negotiating this peace, then it should
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  Speaker 1: be okay with America because they are closest. And So
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  Speaker 1: in that way, I see this as a way that
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump can pull out, and I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: he's been looking for. I know that he says no
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, but if the Arab nations say that Iran
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  Speaker 1: is going to say they're not going to have any
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, and Donald Trump leaves it to them to
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  Speaker 1: do it, then he can pull out, save face, take
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  Speaker 1: the win, and American troops can come back home, the
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  Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz will open, the oil will go down,
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  Speaker 1: eventually gas prices will come down, maybe before the midterm election,
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  Speaker 1: which will be very important to Donald Trump and the Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe this is the off-ramp that Donald Trump can use.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it's completely successful or not in his eyes, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's time to turn back to America and domestic
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  Speaker 1: issues for the elections. And I know that from the
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  Speaker 1: very beginning of this conflict, and we've talked about it
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  Speaker 1: at length here on this program, a nuclear weapon cannot
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  Speaker 1: be had by Iran. It's been the line in the
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  Speaker 1: sand by Donald Trump. And an ending to this now
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  Speaker 1: would be best because Iran, Tehran, they are carrying on
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  Speaker 1: with their efforts to inflict as much economic pain on
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  Speaker 1: the global economy as possible without regard for anything that
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump seems to be telling journalists or posting on
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  Speaker 1: Truth Social. On Monday, Iranian officials created an ex-account on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter for what the regime is calling Persian Gulf Strait Authority.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that? And here's one of their posts,
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  Speaker 1: a post announcing the establishment of the new agency described
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  Speaker 1: it as legal entity and representative authority of the Islamic
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  Speaker 1: Republic of Iran for managing the passage and transit through
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  Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz. So Iran still thinks they have
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  Speaker 1: control of the Strait of Hormuz. And as long as
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  Speaker 1: they think they do and they're putting that information out there,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to have ships going through there, regardless
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  Speaker 1: of what Donald Trump says. Even with convoys and help
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  Speaker 1: from other nations in Europe, you're getting three, four, ten
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  Speaker 1: ships through there a day, and that's not near enough.
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  Speaker 1: What Iran did here, it really appears to be a
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  Speaker 1: middle finger raised defiantly at Trump's direction, straight at him.
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  Speaker 1: That's really the only way you can take that. Trump's threats,
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  Speaker 1: while usually working in most of the cases, really haven't
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  Speaker 1: worked with this Iranian regime. They have waited him out
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  Speaker 1: to this point. And I don't think Donald Trump or
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  Speaker 1: America can continue to just stay there with nothing really happening.
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  Speaker 1: This hour would have started different had Donald Trump done
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  Speaker 1: what he had planned to do, and that was bomb Iran.
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  Speaker 1: And he says again that he would have bombed them
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  Speaker 1: into oblivion. He said that many times, and the Iranian
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  Speaker 1: people now, the regime, probably realize that even when he
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  Speaker 1: says that, that's not necessarily what happens to Iran because
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  Speaker 1: they're still there. And if you go through the missile
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  Speaker 1: sites that are available to them right now in the
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  Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz, it's 30 out of 33. They have
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  Speaker 1: 33 there. 30 are still available or available again because
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  Speaker 1: they've had this time during the ceasefire since April 7th
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  Speaker 1: to replenish And they say they have a lot of missiles.
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  Speaker 1: Whether they do or not, I don't know. I just
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  Speaker 1: see this as a good time now that Donald Trump can...
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  Speaker 1: get out of Iran and I think he should. I
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  Speaker 1: came across this story last night and I want to
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  Speaker 1: share it with you because when you look at people
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  Speaker 1: like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and these other influencers
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube and Rumble and places like that, There is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of recklessness, and Candace Owens is being sued
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  Speaker 1: by Macron, the head of France, about her words and
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  Speaker 1: what she has said about his wife. She was sued
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  Speaker 1: in Europe, and she's being sued in America as well
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  Speaker 1: over what she said. But in this story, there was
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  Speaker 1: a YouTuber in Nashville, Tennessee, that lost a court battle, $ 17. 5
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  Speaker 1: million verdict in a defamation case over a true crime video.
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  Speaker 1: And I was glad to see this because people think
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  Speaker 1: they can say whatever they want to. Citizen journalists, they
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  Speaker 1: have a phone in their hand, they take video, and
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  Speaker 1: they put things out there that hurt other people, and
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  Speaker 1: they have no responsibility for it. There is no accountability
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  Speaker 1: on the back end of it. They ruin people's lives,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. They just continue to make money
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube and Rumble or with advertisers. And it's irresponsible.
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  Speaker 1: but $ 17. 5 million verdict in Nashville over this lawsuit, over
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  Speaker 1: the death of somebody. Now, the lawsuit was filed against
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  Speaker 1: YouTuber Ryan Upchurch by the relatives of Keely Rodney, who
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  Speaker 1: was a 16-year-old California girl who disappeared in August of
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  Speaker 1: 2022 after attending a party near Tahoe National Forest. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that young lady. Her body
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  Speaker 1: was later found inside her SUV in a nearby lake.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities ruled her death an accident and said there was
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  Speaker 1: no evidence of foul play. The girl's father, Daniel Rodney,
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  Speaker 1: and grandfather, David Robertson, sued Upchurch in federal court in
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  Speaker 1: Nashville in 2023, claiming he defamed them in a video titled, quote,
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  Speaker 1: zero proof of Keely Rodney situation being real, unquote, which
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  Speaker 1: makes me think about Candace Owens and the things that
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  Speaker 1: she says about Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's death on national television,
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  Speaker 1: his murder, his assassination, there has probably never been a
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  Speaker 1: case with more evidence against one person, Tyler Robinson, in
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  Speaker 1: the history of murders and assassinations. But she carries on
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  Speaker 1: her farce, and the result of that is it hurts people.
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  Speaker 1: It hurts Erica Kirk. It hurts the children of Charlie Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: his legacy. People have to be more responsible with their
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  Speaker 1: words and the things they do if they think they
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  Speaker 1: are a citizen journalist. Because a lot of these people
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  Speaker 1: are just doing this for clicks. They're doing it for
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  Speaker 1: money and they're not being responsible. According to the lawsuit,
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  Speaker 1: UpChurch suggested the case was fake and part of a
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  Speaker 1: scam to raise money through GoFundMe. So this YouTuber, in
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  Speaker 1: a similar fashion to Candace Owens, says that the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing was fake. The young girl was dead fake. And
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  Speaker 1: this YouTuber irresponsibly raises money on that. Here's a WSMV4
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  Speaker 1: in Nashville with a little bit more of the story.
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  Speaker 2: Need you to be looking out for Kylie and Kylie's car.
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  Speaker 3: When 16 year old Kylie Rodney vanished after attending a
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  Speaker 3: party in August of 2022, her mother's desperate plea for help.
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  Speaker 1: My head is all over the place and I'm terrified.
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  Speaker 3: Turned the search for her daughter into an international story.
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  Speaker 1: But the news took a tragic turn.
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  Speaker 3: A heartbreaking end to the more than two week long search.
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  Speaker 3: When investigators in California determined she accidentally drowned after driving
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  Speaker 3: her car into a lake the night she went missing.
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  Speaker 3: But according to attorney Chris Smith. They're still obviously grieving.
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  Speaker 3: Rodney's death was just the beginning of her family's pain
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  Speaker 3: because true crime conspiracy videos.
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  Speaker 2: Show me real proof of Kylie Rodney existing.
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  Speaker 3: Like this one, posted by Nashville YouTube star Ryan Upchurch,
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  Speaker 3: took the case viral. And Smith says when Upchurch told
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  Speaker 3: his 3 million followers that the Rodneys faked everything to
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  Speaker 3: make money on GoFundMe.
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  Speaker 2: It's a scam.
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  Speaker 3: The family hired him to sue Upchurch for defamation, claiming
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  Speaker 3: his videos caused mental and psychological damage.
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  Speaker 1: But this guy sounds a whole lot like Candace Owens,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't he? He's just asking questions. No harm in asking questions.
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  Speaker 1: I should be able to ask questions. Did you hear
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  Speaker 1: how he did it? Did she even exist? Did this
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  Speaker 1: girl even exist? They're raising money on GoFundMe. And he
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  Speaker 1: has now been sued successfully, and he owes the family $ 17. 5 million.
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff Richard Mack has been a guest here several times
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  Speaker 1: on The Truth Be Told. He's back tonight. He's coming up.
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  Speaker 2: We pray for rain and thank him when it's falling
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  Speaker 2: because it brings a grain and a little bit of money.
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  Speaker 2: We put it back in the plate. I guess that's
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  Speaker 2: why they call it God's country.
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  Speaker 1: More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in minutes on
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  Speaker 1: America Out Loud. Someone asked me the other day, how
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  Speaker 1: do you even get a sense of what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen next? It's hard. I don't know that we can,
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  Speaker 1: the way the news moves so fast. But you know
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  Speaker 1: what I told them? I said, I've been checking out
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  Speaker 1: PolyMarket a little bit. It's extremely insightful. You're basically watching
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  Speaker 1: how thousands of people are betting on outcomes. Political elections,
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  Speaker 1: big policy moves, even events you wouldn't expect. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like a live pulse on what the public actually believes.
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  Speaker 1: And you can see trends before they even happen. and
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  Speaker 1: before they even make the mainstream news. For me, it's
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  Speaker 1: not about gambling. It's about understanding the probabilities and where
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  Speaker 1: the momentum is shifting. If you like or love the
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  Speaker 1: news like I do, maybe you're a news junkie, but
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  Speaker 1: you want to take a little deeper look at what
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  Speaker 1: people really think, go to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to The Truth Be Told here on
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  Speaker 1: America Out Loud Talk Radio. I am Booker Scott. Great
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  Speaker 1: to have you tonight. It's also great to have Sheriff
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  Speaker 1: Richard Mack. He's been on the program several times. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a while since he has been. That's my fault.
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  Speaker 1: The last time he was here, he says, bring me
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  Speaker 1: back as a regular. And I think that's a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: And somehow I didn't. It's my fault. But let's get
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  Speaker 1: him into here for the conversation. Sheriff Mack, great to
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  Speaker 1: have you back. And I apologize. You should have been
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  Speaker 1: back here at least two times since you were here
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  Speaker 1: about 14 months ago. But I'm glad to have you
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  Speaker 1: here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's great. I'll be on with you anytime you'd like.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a great show. And I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 2: You've got a great radio voice. One of the best
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  Speaker 2: I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I've done it for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, Sheriff Mack. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: know that, but I started a career in radio 1986,
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  Speaker 1: so 40 years ago. And it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: believe that I'm old enough to have done anything for
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  Speaker 1: 40 years. But, you know, you get to that age
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  Speaker 1: and you start saying things like, I wear contact lens.
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  Speaker 1: I've been wearing contact lens now for about 48 years now.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem like I've been, I'm old enough
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  Speaker 1: to do that, but let's get into a conversation here
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  Speaker 1: because the last time you were here, we discussed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the deportations that were coming up and the importance of sheriffs.
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  Speaker 1: And just for a little background, if you don't know
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  Speaker 1: who Sheriff Mack is, he was the first sheriff in
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  Speaker 1: America to sue the federal government. And he did so successfully.
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  Speaker 1: He had a couple of other sheriffs that came along
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  Speaker 1: with him along the way. And maybe we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit, but we have talked about that
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  Speaker 1: in the past. Besides that, he was trained by the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: He was almost in every level of law enforcement there
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona, where he still lives today. And he was
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  Speaker 1: the elected sheriff in a county in Arizona. And as
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  Speaker 1: we've discussed before, Sheriff, there is probably nothing more important
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  Speaker 1: as an elected official than the sheriff in a county,
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  Speaker 1: because it is the highest official that any of us
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  Speaker 1: actually vote for. And I know we talked about that
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  Speaker 1: last time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's true, and I'm right next to Pinal County,
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  Speaker 2: where I was Graham County Sheriff, like Graham Cracker. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's just south, a little bit south and east
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  Speaker 2: of Pinal County, where I think your son lives.
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  Speaker 1: My son lives there. He sure does.
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  Speaker 2: And what town is it?
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know, and I feel bad that I
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  Speaker 1: can't answer that question. I've been there. I've been there
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  Speaker 1: to visit once.
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  Speaker 2: It would be either Casa Grande or.
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  Speaker 1: Florence. No, the first one you mentioned sounds familiar. It's
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  Speaker 1: fairly close over the Maricopa line, I guess. And it's
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  Speaker 1: about 45 minutes from the airport, if that helps you any.
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  Speaker 1: But that's where he is.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like Casablanca. Yeah, that would be close to Casablanca,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: just down I-10.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Fairly new area and all new development. Really nice area
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of Arizona.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Well, they do that. The construction all around Gilbert area
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: is just phenomenal. It's Man, this is a real growing area.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And the town I live in now, Gilbert, is about
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: two and a half hours from Safford, the county seat
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of Graham County, where I grew up. My wife and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I both grew up there. And I was privileged enough
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and blessed enough to be. the sheriff in my hometown
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: for eight years. And I absolutely loved that. And it
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: produced a miracle. And it's called MACVUS. And that turned
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: out to be absolutely a phenomenal miracle in my life.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And I still make a living promoting that case.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was against Clinton at the time.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I'm proud to be a part of that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was against Bill Clinton. Wait, say that again?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I said that was against Bill Clinton.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I sued the Clintons. Yeah. Yeah, the real miracle
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: was I sued the Clintons and beat them and lived.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: To tell about it. You're maybe the only one. Be careful. Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Be careful. Don't sleep with both eyes closed out there
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. Hillary's walking around someplace, so be careful out there. Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You've got a brand new book, too. I want to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: talk about this new book you have, but let's talk
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: about your organization first, which is CSPOA, and that is
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. And tell everybody
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: where that website is. It's www.cspoa.org is the website. I'll
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: tell it for you. And a little bit about your
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: work there. And then I want to talk about the deportations.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: That's what we talked about the last time As Donald
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Trump had just been sworn in, as I remember it,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the last time you were on the program, and we
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: talked about what was coming with deportation. So I want
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to get into that conversation. But if you could talk
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: about Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Well, the CSPOA actually was formed. It sounds like it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a national law enforcement organization. And I guess in a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: way it sort of is, but it wasn't for sheriffs
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't for peace officers. It was for the
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: American people. And then we say, well, but I can't join. Yes,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you can. Every single one of you can join the CSPOA.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And there's a branch called the CSPOA Posse. And as
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, this doesn't work if the American
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: people don't join. It really doesn't work because we want
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the boss of the sheriffs and peace officers on the organization,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: on our board. part of our organization and part of
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: our board of directors. We want the American people on
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: board because you're the only supervisor the sheriff has. You've
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: got to be part of this. And not only that,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: but you're the most important part of our government. We
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the people, the first three words of our constitution. And folks,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: if I could get down on my knees and beg
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you to become members and a part of this, because
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you're what makes it work And the relationship between you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and your sheriff is so vital that you have it,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: that you have a relationship that he hears from you
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: because if he doesn't, he's just going to do whatever
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: he does here from, from others. And if he doesn't
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: hear from the boss, then he's going to think you
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: don't really care. And he's just going to run things
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: how most sheriffs do. And that is just mainstream law enforcement,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: which is, writing tickets, handling all the calls for police service,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: family fights, do the criminal investigations, which folks, all of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: that is part of your sheriff's responsibility. But his ultimate
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: responsibility is to make sure that you and your family
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and your God-given rights, your civil rights are being protected
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: every day. And that's where we come in because we
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: train how to do that and how to be a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: constitutional sheriff. And we invented that term, but a constitutional sheriff, again,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that name and that term is not for him. It's
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: for you. It's for you that we do this. And
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: so freedom is the ultimate responsibility of your sheriff. And
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: we want to make sure that he hears from you.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And that's why we ask each and every one of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you to become members of of the CSPOA Posse, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: that's right there on the front page of that website, CSPOA.org.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: You also have a pamphlet or book that you give
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: away free as well. This isn't the book that I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: was talking about a minute ago about your new book.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: This is something altogether different. Is that accurate as well
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: if you go to that website?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, because it's a little white booklet, and on the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: front page it shows me holding it with my hand.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: It's about the size of your pocket constitution. But you
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: can read this in about 10 minutes. And it is
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: such a freedom miracle and a huge freedom tool. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say this without any reservation. This is
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the most powerful freedom tool we've been endowed with. Endowed
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: is the word in the Declaration of Independence. We were
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: endowed by our creator. Endowed means gifted. We were gifted
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: with this blessing from God. And this was a gift
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: from God, this decision, because it's the most powerful 10th
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Amendment state sovereignty, personal sovereignty case in the history of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: our country. And I'm really proud to be a part
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: of it. But this miracle did not come from me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: It came from the author of all miracles. And we
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: all know who that is. And so I would I would.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Offer anyone and everyone who becomes a member of the CSPOA,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: we will send you a copy of this beautiful little pamphlet,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: fits in your shirt pocket, coat pocket too, but shirt pocket.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And it's, again, it's something that every one of you
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: need to read. And it's something that you need to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: pass along to your city council, your county commissioners, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: make sure your sheriff has one. And then go talk
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to your sheriff and we train you how to do that.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: But go talk to your sheriff and ask him if
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: he's a constitutional sheriff. And then make sure he gets
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a copy of this Supreme Court case. Folks, you would not,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you could never fully understand how powerful that is, getting
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: your sheriff on board with being a constitutional sheriff. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that is the ultimate protection for you and your family
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: against tyranny, oppression, and governmental abuse.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And through history in America, the sheriff used to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: have a whole lot of power. And it seems like
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: we have allowed that power to be taken away from
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the sheriff in a lot of cases. And I think
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you're right. That's probably on us, the American people, we
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the people. And we allowed that to happen over time.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: You're in Arizona. And as you were talking, I got
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to thinking about Nancy Guthrie in that case. And the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: sheriff there, he's come under a lot of pressure. And
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think he handled that case.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Were you watching that case like everybody else at the time?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And do you have any thoughts on that sheriff there
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: in Arizona in the Nancy Guthrie case?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I was watching it like a hawk because when he
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: was running, I actually endorsed his opponent. And this is
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: what happens when you vote for the wrong person for sheriff.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: He's not a good person. And somebody confronted him about
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: me and constitutional sheriff movement. And he said, oh, Sheriff Mack,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: he's a white supremacist.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So something that stupid.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: That's their go-to.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I've never met the manic person. I've never talked to him.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: After he said that about me, I left him a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: message and told him I thought that he ought to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and I had to have a conversation because if he's
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: going to lie about me, he seems to be the
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: type of egotistical public official that doesn't really check the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: truth and check with the person he's bad-mouthing before he
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: opens his big trap. And so I even offered a
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: radio show out of Tucson to bring in Sheriff Mark Lamb,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: former sheriff of Pinal County, and say, you know, both
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of us are willing to look at your case. We've
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: both been through these sort of cases before, and especially
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: involving search and rescue. And maybe we would have some
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: new eyes shed some light onto this case. Of course,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: he never responded. And I think someone or Sheriff Lamb
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: actually offered it in person or called him about it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: But I never called him after that. But this was
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: a big talk show out of Tucson. And I'm sure
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: somebody told him that we were offering that. But he's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: very egotistical.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's what it looks like
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: He jumps the gun on a lot of things. So, yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I don't have any respect for him. And they did
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: make some very serious mistakes. on this case.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: They waited too long to get the FBI involved. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think that goes to the ego. Yeah, I think
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that goes to the ego that you mentioned there a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: minute ago. Let's move on to deportations, though, because that
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was the last conversation we had the last time you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: were here. And we had certain expectations going into this
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: second term of Donald Trump. We have somewhere between, I'm
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: not sure, but somewhere between 400 and 600,000 deportations that
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: have taken place in, what, 16 months now? Yeah. I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: don't know if that is what I was expecting. I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: was hoping for more. There's a huge backlog of cases,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and that's really where things get hung up. And, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of the 400,000 to 600,000, I guess about 55% to
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: 60% have been convicted of a crime in the past.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Many of the others are awaiting trial to be tried
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: on other charges. So that's a good thing. We have self-deportation.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it seems like, somewhere around 1.7, 1.9 million. So combined,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: about 2.3 million, we'll call it that, conservatively. What do
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you think about that? Is that a good number? Is
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that what you were expecting? Or were you expecting more
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: than that?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I was expecting more, but primarily I was expecting more
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: help from sheriffs and local police and states to... I
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: didn't even expect the true blue, crazy blue states to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: do what they're doing. I thought they would want to
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: get these criminals out of their communities, but they don't.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And the subterfuge and the dishonesty and the political corruption
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: from the democrat party has been so immense that it
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: has really interfered it was the democrats and progressives who
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: blocked tom homan's efforts and ice in minneapolis and throughout
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: minnesota uh we begged the sheriffs there and all over
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the country to get more involved one to make sure
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that protesters uh were not breaking the law and were
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: not interfering and that they were safe. And I can
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: make that comparison to Florida. Florida still had protests, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: every sheriff in that state committed to Governor DeSantis that
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: they would be involved. And so the deportations have been happening.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Local law enforcement is helping and it's working peacefully and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: effectively in Florida. Minnesota, you might want to take notice
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of what they're doing there. There's been no murders. There's
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: been no violence. There's been no shootings by ICE. And
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: once you have law enforcement and public officials encourage the violence,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to happen almost every time.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I have seen Sheriff Mack in some cases in places
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: not like Minnesota, but Tennessee even. I saw this case
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee, in Rutherford County, Tennessee, in Murfreesboro, where there
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: was a huge group of Democrats that were really being
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: vocal and protesting their local sheriff about the 287G, which
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: allows the sheriff's department, deputies, and local police to work
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: alongside ICE to so that they can hand over some
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of these people to be deported. So even in places
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that you would not expect that there would be pushback
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: for a 287G, there has been. And that goes to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the point that you were talking about. Florida seems to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: be cooperating in every county, all 67 counties. But in
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: other pockets of the country, it's not the same. And
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I think that has had a lot to do with
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the fact that we don't have the numbers of deportations.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: And then we also have the courts, Sheriff Mack. The
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: courts have done everything they can along the way to
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: prevent Donald Trump from doing what it is that he
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: campaigned on and what he got elected for.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Correct. And that's true. And so even some sheriffs from
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: some very red counties and states, have been reluctant to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: get involved because it's been such a hot and controversial issue.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Politically.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But the only one that made it controversial was the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Democrat Party because they want these people to stay there
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and vote. And they even increased it. They doubled down
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: on that, said, oh, yeah, we want them all to vote.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And they shouldn't have to show identification to register to vote.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And they shouldn't have to show identification to vote. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that really creates a huge problem when it comes to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: election voting. Sure. And yes, the Democrat Party is cheating.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: If you want to see election fraud, look at what
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: they're doing to get all the illegal aliens registered to vote.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: That is cheating.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sure is. Well, and then, you know, you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: look at the SAVE Act and everything that's gone on
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: in the Senate with them not even bringing it for
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a vote. And sometimes I wonder, do we actually need
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: another law when 18 U.S.C. 611 has only been prosecuted
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: 35 times in 21 years? And that is making it
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: a felony for an illegal to vote. And I think
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody listening to this program, you and I would both
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: agree that more than 35 illegals have voted over 21 years.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yet that's all that's been prosecuted over 21 years. So
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: now we're going to add another law. And what do
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: we hope for? You know, we've got to get these
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: people out of the country. That's what needs to happen
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: first before we worry about whether they're voting or not.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And that's what I think a lot of us had
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: hoped for. We're coming up on a break. But real quick,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the Clark County, which is Las Vegas,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Nevada case. and the sheriff there. Can you tell us
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit about that story as we get ready
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: to go into a commercial break?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Sheriff Kevin McMayhill very well. I was
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: in his office about a year and a half ago
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and we discussed my Supreme Court case and I told
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: him about being a constitutional sheriff and he was very
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: receptive to all of that. And lo and behold, he
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: now has put it into practice because he told four
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: different judges 11 different times on 11 different inmates that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: he would no longer be taking their orders to release
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: dangerous habitual criminals back into the community. And he said, no,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: it doesn't do any good to do an ankle monitor
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: because these people go and kill and maim and rape
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and rob anyway. And he says, I'm not playing your
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: little game and we're not doing it anymore. And one
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: judge got really ticked off at him, but it's going
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to court to the Nevada Supreme Court. And I'm sure
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: that Sheriff McMayhill will win. And I called him and
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: congratulated him for his work. And we're really proud of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: what he has done. And I wish every sheriff in
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: the country would do the same thing.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Richard Mack is his name. We have more of
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: this conversation coming up. We're going to get into his
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: brand new book here in just a few minutes.
• 35:28
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• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Mack is our guest tonight and let's get into
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: your brand new book. What was your motivation for writing
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this book, Sheriff Mack?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Well, to save America. I'm tired of watching all the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: liars from the national media coalesce with the Democrat Party.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: And these two bed partners lie, cheat, steal, and murder.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And the worst thing that they're murdering is, well, I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: don't know if I can say the worst thing. because
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: i think the worst thing they're murdering is babies before
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: they're born yeah sure and and now the democrats have
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: actually come up with a term that it's okay to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: murder while they're being born and their terminology for that
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: is partial birth abortion.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah and in california you know in california they made
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: a law where 30 days after a baby is born
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that no one could be prosecuted for a baby and.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: All that's murder yeah all that is murder and yes
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: we know that and When Governor Northam from Virginia about
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: eight years ago said that, yes, if a baby happens
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to survive an abortion attempt, then we'll make it comfortable
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: while we let it die.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Not try to save it. They won't try to save it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: They'll just make it comfortable.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: No, they will not save it. They'll make sure it dies,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: but make it as comfortable as possible while they make
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: sure it dies, which is such a farce. But how
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: many Democrats came out publicly and denounced that, condemned that?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: How many? Zero. I've looked it up. I mean, if
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: somebody did it, it certainly wasn't covered. And with the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: dishonest media, then it probably wouldn't have been. But this
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: is what's happening. across the country. And the Democrat Party
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: has just taken this too far. And I have a
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: chapter in the book. We've gone too far. And this
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: is a sign of it. AI, we've gone too far.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: The divisiveness in our country about politics and hate and corruption,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: we've gone way too far. And we do not protect
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and hold dear the sanctity of life. And it's gone
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: too far. And now we've got to reverse all of that. First,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I guess I ought to tell your audience the name
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: of the book.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to jump in and do that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: So please go ahead. It would help if you're going
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to try. You know, books don't sell themselves. I don't
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: know if you know this, but since you were on
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the show, I had a book published and it's about
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. intelligence. And I have learned that they do
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: not sell themselves. You have to get out there and
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: at least tell people the name of the book so
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: that they can buy it. I would imagine that it's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: available at Amazon and probably put your name in there.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You also have a co-author that we should talk about
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: as well. Dan Perkins is the co-author on this book.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: The name of the book is The Democrat Murder of America.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: That's the name of the book. And is it available
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: at Amazon? And where else can someone find your book?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: The only place it's available right now is at its
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: website or my website. But the best one to do
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: would be go to Murder of America, all one word, murderofamerica.com,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: because the only book is not on Amazon yet because
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: we don't have a printed book yet. We have the e-book.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: We have the digital book. And that's the only thing
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: we have. I would say in a couple of weeks,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: we've already got it off to the printer. And the
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: printer assured me 10 days to two weeks, he's going
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: to have them available.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: This is a brand new book.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yeah, brand new. Officially just out today.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. We're breaking news here again on The Truth Be Told.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. And so, folks, the subtitle of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: book is Demagoguery in the First Degree. Now, that's a
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: big word, and a lot of people have asked, what
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: is demagoguery? Folks, demagoguery is what we're seeing in politics
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and the media today. A demagogue is someone who appeals
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: or uses demagoguery. And demagoguery is using fear and emotions
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to get what you want politically. And so these lies
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: about racism, that's demagoguery. And it's manipulation of one group
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: of people to go after and hate another. And it's
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to achieve a political goal or objective from one party
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: against the other. And Democrats have gone way too far
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: on their demagoguery. And they don't care who it hurts.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: They don't care who they destroy. Because this demagoguery has
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: been used against me. I have been attacked by the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Southern Poverty Law Center, who just got indicted. And they
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: were indicted for exactly what they do to me. And
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: they've done to me for over 30 years. And that
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: is lie about me, lie about my organization and lie
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: about who I am as a person. And so anyone, ADL, IREHR,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Washington Post, Politico. Oh, and how do you like this?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: The Daily Beast. How's that for a news agency? The
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Daily Beast. Jessica Pishko, who I've actually thought we had
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: a decent relationship at one time. But she wrote a
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: book of assailing me and my organization and the dangers
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of having a constitutional sheriff. It's a danger to our democracy.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: And I tried to explain to her, we're not even
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: a democracy. And the book really hits that hard, too.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Not just her, but the idea that we are a
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: democracy when the founding fathers had nothing but disdain for
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the word democracy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a republic. Yeah. We are a constitution republic,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: and please remember that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Correct. And that's what we're supposed to be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, our form of government is representative democracy, which means
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you represent someone to– you vote for someone to represent
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: you or your district or whatever or state if you're
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a senator. But that's not the form of government that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: we have. Our government is a republic.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: The biggest– The biggest difference between a Republican and a
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: democracy is a democracy is mob rule. OK, you don't
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: like the term mob. OK, we'll try to keep it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like in some ways, it seems like
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: in some ways we've lived through mob rule, especially when
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden was president.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It seemed like, of course, there was mob rule during
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: FDR's reign as president. And there was a lot of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: racism and he was a racist. But to say mobocracy,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: it says, oh, well, you're just saying mob violence. And
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I said, okay, so how about one more than 50%? Which, okay,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: majority rules. That's a nicer way to put it. Majority rules.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: The majority can be very tyrannical and cruel when it
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: comes to protecting the rights of the individual. And in
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: a republic, the rights of the individual change. are just
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: as important as the rights of anyone else or any
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: majority that you could have. So a republic does not
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: allow the people on the bus to tell another person
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: on the bus that they have to get to the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: back of the bus. You see, that was mobocracy when
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Rosa Parks had to do that. And we talk about
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Rosa Parks in the book. And we talk about Martin
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Luther King. And Martin Luther King's most famous speech Not
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the one in front of Lincoln Memorial, but the one
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: in the church in New York City.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, in New York.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: No, in New York City. And it was his speech
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: about the greatest purveyor of violence. And he gave that
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: one year, one year to the very day that he
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: was assassinated. And there were a lot of people in government, especially,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: that were so mad at him for saying that the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: United States government was the greatest purveyor of violence in
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the world. And his staff and most people who heard
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the speech said it was his finest speech ever. Not
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: that I have a dream speech in front of Lincoln
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Memorial about four years before that. But we explained that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And it gets a little bit suspicious as to how
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: he was assassinated one day, one year to the very
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: day that he gave that speech. And then the I
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: think the most amazing research that we came up with
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: was Dorothy Kilgallen. Now you might not remember her. You
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: might not be old enough because on, on the, on
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the television game show called what's my line. Do you
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: remember that?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I do remember that show.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: She was one of the regular panelists, a nice looking lady,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: not a real beauty, but a nice looking lady. very articulate,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: but she was, uh, she gained a lot of celebrity
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a few years before that. And that's the reason she
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: made it as a celebrity on that show.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: What do you say, Sheriff? You think she's a six?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think she would be a six out of 10?
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: A six? Okay. But you could drink her. You could
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: probably drink her to it too, if you drank her.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Yes. But she was a 10 when it came to
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: being a good reporter. And she was, She did not
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: like it when JFK was assassinated, and she didn't buy
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the story from the Warren Commission. In fact, the Warren Commission,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: she called a joke. It was laughable, she said. And
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: she started doing her own investigation. And lo and behold,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: guess what happened to her? She died.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Hillary got her.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Well, it might have been before Hillary died. Yeah, probably so.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: But she died the exact same way Marilyn Monroe did.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And we point out in the book that Vince Foster
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: did not commit suicide. Marilyn Monroe did not commit suicide.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: And Dorothy Kilgallen did not die accidentally, as the police said.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: She died exact same way as Marilyn Monroe. She took
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: some sleeping pills and drank. And the police come in
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and say, oh, darn it. Looks like she died accidentally.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a murder. But Marilyn Monroe's death
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: did look like a murder. And this one looks like
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: it even more. And you want me to, can I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: tell you why real quick?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely. Go.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: All of her reports and all of her notes about
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the assassination of JFK that she was about ready to
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: divulge were all stolen from her apartment the night she died,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the night she was killed. So we know why she
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: was killed. We just don't know who, because first of all,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: they never investigated it.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: You have the motivation, but you don't know who did it.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And so this has been the rule of thumb, especially
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: for the Democrat Party. And obviously there's some deaths that
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: we bring up that we weren't able to prove what
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: side of the aisle did it. But most of it's
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: very suspicious towards the Democrat side. But we don't care.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: We don't care what party did it. Any criminality of government,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: we don't care. Like Nixon. We bring Nixon up. And
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Nixon was a Republican. And he was totally corrupt and
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: did some horrible things. The only president in history to
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: ever resign and then pardoned by the only president that
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: was never elected. And that's Gerald Ford.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Gerald Ford, yeah. Sure was. The name of the book
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is The Democrat Murder of America. You're listening to Sheriff
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Richard Mack. He wrote that book along with. Dan Perkins.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: The book just came out, as you heard a few
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: minutes ago. Only available on an e-book now, but the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: published book is coming soon. You go to thedemocratmurderofamerica.com.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: No, just Democrat Murder of America.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Democrat Murder of America and democratmurderofamerica.com. is where you can
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: go and get that book now, but it's coming out
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: soon in a published version. Before we get out of here, Sheriff,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about accountability. I think you and
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I both, the last time we spoke, we had an
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: expectation with Donald Trump coming in as 47th president, that
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: there would be some accountability for people like James Comey,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci and Brennan and Clapper and all those names.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: It hasn't happened. And I sense that the base is frustrated.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: There is a lot of voter apathy, which is going
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to hurt in the midterm as we see these primaries
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: happening now. And what do you think? Are we going
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: to get accountability? Someone like James Comey, is he going
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to be tied together with Brennan in the grand jury
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that's in South Florida right now and something more than
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: what he was indicted for? Is it on the way?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Is there going to be accountability?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I never thought that Comey would get indicted or arrested,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm really glad he did. Uh, I hope that
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: this is the beginning of the end of political leniency
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: for these types of criminals. I don't know if Fauci's
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: ever going to get it because he got a pardon
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: from Biden.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the statute of limitations is out also. So
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: unless you're going to do a RICO case, which I doubt.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: It might not be, though. It might not be for
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: some of the states to still go after him. So
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: that's a possibility. He deserves it big time.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: But there's many others that Alejandro Mayorkas.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, he should have been first. He was low hanging fruit,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. He perjured himself many times in Congress
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: when he said we have operational control of the border
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: when clearly they didn't. And now we know because Donald
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Trump shut down the border and for 10 months there
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: have been zero illegals allowed into the country. That is
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: all the evidence you need to know that Mayorkas lied
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: under oath repeatedly.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: And all of that falls into one sentence I wanted
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: to tell you from the book. So let me say
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: this about all of this and quote one sentence from
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the book. I think this plays into what we're talking about.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Quoting myself in the book, The Democrat Murder of America,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: available again at themurderofamerica.com. The only authentic accomplishment the Democrat
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Party has made within our political structure is that they
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: have reached a new level of degeneracy. And I think
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: that applies to all of this. And I pray that
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: President Trump is safe. He obviously hasn't been very safe.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I think the Democrats have had a hand in that.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: But the hate that the Democrats spew towards this man
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: and the lawfare aimed at President Trump and his family
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: the threats that have come out to him, the name-calling
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: of him that he's Hitler and a Nazi and a fascist, again,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: they've gone too far. And the new level of degeneracy
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: is obvious from the Democrat Party and their bed partners.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: The media.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: And I really hope that we, the people, join hand
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: in hand and that we are the ultimate revengers in
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: this And I don't even know if that's a word.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: But then we will make the Democrat Party pay the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: price this year at the elections.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Got to get out and vote.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: People have to get out there.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: There's some good people in the Democrat Party. We want
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: you to do the right thing. We're not telling you
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: to quit the party. In fact, we all should quit parties.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: There should not be two parties. There should not be
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: five parties. There should be Americans, and that's it, that vote.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: And George Washington said the same thing a lot better
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: than I did. He articulated it. so powerfully. But folks,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: you good Democrats have got to stop this. And you
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: need to vote for good, honest constitutional candidates. And if
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: you can't get any in the Democrat Party, then vote
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: for someone else. Vote for a third party. Vote for
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a Republican. Vote for anyone that will stand against all
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: this corruption and dishonesty and cheating.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: You said it perfectly. His name is Sheriff Richard Mack.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: He was the first sheriff in America to sue the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: federal government, Bill Clinton, and he won. He won that case.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: It was a Tenth Amendment case, which is really one
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: of my favorite amendments, Sheriff. I think if you don't
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: have that, we're not a republic. If you don't have that,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: we probably don't have the First and the Second Amendment either.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: It can't be upheld without constitutional sheriffs like you in
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: states that make up our republic. the united states of
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: america it's always a pleasure to talk to you i
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: really do appreciate it please please if if i don't
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: reach out to you in the next three months please
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: do it to me and i'll have you back on
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: have you back on more regular and we have to
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: do this i really do enjoy our time together it's
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: always enjoyable for me thank you so much for what
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: you do and let's go over again the constitutional website
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and the book one more time before you get out
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: of here hey you can.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: All join The C-S-P-O-A and become a part of a
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: solution that is both peaceful and effective. And that's at
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: C-S-P-O-A dot org. CISPOA, C-S-P-O-A dot org. And the book
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: should be on there, too. I think it's going to
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: be there today. It might already be there. I didn't
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: check it within the last hour. The other one, the
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: best book in America about what's really going on in
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: our country and how our country is being destroyed from
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: within and what we can do to stop it. And
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: that's the Democrat Murder of America at murderofamerica.com. Murder of America,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: all one word, murderofamerica.com. It's only $ 14. 92. That's a good price.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It's cheap for saving this country.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: The printed copy will be a little bit more.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, Sheriff Mack, thank you so much for coming
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: back on the program. I really do thank you. I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: really do. Sheriff Mack, thank you.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: You too, Booker. Thank you.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And that brings us to the end of this hour.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. And don't forget that you
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: were told 2,000 years ago that you are the salt
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: of the earth. And salt without flavor, it has no value.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have a great night.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: There is only one truth. You've been listening to The
• 56:11
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