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- 0:06Speaker 1: How in the world does the army lose yet another
- 0:15Speaker 1: shining star. Why you'd think after Vanessa Gean's case they
- 0:21Speaker 1: would have learned. And don't get me wrong, I love
- 0:24Speaker 1: our military. My father fought for his country. But why
- 0:29Speaker 1: is this happening this time? The superstar number one in
- 0:36Speaker 1: the basic training class, number one in AI Advanced Individual Training,
- 0:44Speaker 1: and they're not worried. I worried. Today is a very
- 0:57Speaker 1: urgent program. We are searching for a young trainee, a
- 1:03Speaker 1: young recruit, just twenty one years old. What has happened
- 1:10Speaker 1: to Richard Holliday? Take a listen to this. This is
- 1:15Speaker 1: our friend Natasha Paloma at kat s M. Nine. Richard
- 1:20Speaker 1: was born in Poland. We adopted him when he was
- 1:25Speaker 1: about five years old, with his brother, who was almost
- 1:29Speaker 1: eight at the time. We brought him home and I
- 1:33Speaker 1: have to remind myself that they're adopted. His mother describing
- 1:37Speaker 1: him as intelligent and talented, likes to play the piano,
- 1:43Speaker 1: loves the outdoors, loves the outdoors. Richard Halliday was always
- 1:49Speaker 1: so independent, his parents say, so much so that he
- 1:52Speaker 1: decided he would join the service. He was number one
- 1:56Speaker 1: in basic training, received a five hundred dollars award for
- 1:59Speaker 1: that which we were. Patricia Halliday says her son excelled
- 2:05Speaker 1: and even loved being deployed. He became an ephor very
- 2:09Speaker 1: quickly and went to Qatar. Well he's not a trainee,
- 2:13Speaker 1: he's not a recruit. He's a full on soldier, already
- 2:17Speaker 1: accomplishing so much. Comes to our country from Poland. He
- 2:21Speaker 1: is a doctor, along with his brother. And yet he
- 2:25Speaker 1: who comes to this country from another is ready to
- 2:29Speaker 1: die for the United States. What are we ready to
- 2:32Speaker 1: do for him? You were just hearing the voice of
- 2:36Speaker 1: his mother, who, of course, like me, well not miss
- 2:41Speaker 1: any opportunity to brag about her children. And joining me
- 2:46Speaker 1: right now is Richard's mother, Patricia Halliday. Father Rob Halliday,
- 2:51Speaker 1: also with me. James shell Nutt twenty seven years metro
- 2:55Speaker 1: major case SWAT officer now lawyer at shell nut Lawfirm
- 3:00Speaker 1: dot com. New York psychologists joining us today from Manhattan,
- 3:04Speaker 1: Karen Stark at Karen Stark dot com with a c.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, private investigator, former cop at Crispin Special Investigations
- 3:13Speaker 1: dot com, and Ann Emerson Wcivy, ABC four. First of all,
- 3:20Speaker 1: to you and Emerson. Before I get to Richard's mother
- 3:23Speaker 1: and father. What do we know first of all about
- 3:27Speaker 1: where Richard was stationed? Well, what we know Nancy is
- 3:32Speaker 1: said he was at Fort Bliss dot in Texas. According
- 3:36Speaker 1: to reports, twenty one year old Rushard Holiday had been
- 3:39Speaker 1: in the military as he since for two years and
- 3:41Speaker 1: just recently returned from Qatar. They certainly do talk about
- 3:47Speaker 1: his Sellar early military record. And what we understand is
- 3:52Speaker 1: he was at this at this base at Bois And
- 3:55Speaker 1: what can you tell me about for Board Bliss and
- 3:58Speaker 1: how big is it? We're exactly is what do we
- 4:00Speaker 1: know about Fort Bliss? Well, Fort Bliss is certainly one
- 4:03Speaker 1: of our well regarded army bases in it's near closer
- 4:10Speaker 1: to El Paso, Texas area. It is a pretty much
- 4:15Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a straightforward army base. It's been
- 4:19Speaker 1: home to the first Armored Division, and it's about it's
- 4:22Speaker 1: a huge actually, it's one point. I was just about
- 4:26Speaker 1: to say it's huge. It's about seventeen hundred square miles.
- 4:32Speaker 1: It may be a little bit bigger than that. And
- 4:35Speaker 1: it is the largest installation and forst com US Army
- 4:40Speaker 1: Forces Command, the second largest in the entire Army. To
- 4:47Speaker 1: the parents of Richard Halliday. I want to thank you
- 4:50Speaker 1: for being with us. First to you his mom, Patricia Halliday.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I was just going over what you were here, what
- 4:58Speaker 1: you were telling us about Richard. I remember getting my
- 5:02Speaker 1: children through piano, and I can imagine you giving him
- 5:07Speaker 1: piano lessons and how smart he is and how you
- 5:12Speaker 1: took him in brought him from Poland tell me about
- 5:16Speaker 1: the day you realized Richard is missing. Well, it was
- 5:21Speaker 1: a horrific day. We hadn't heard from Richard. We had
- 5:28Speaker 1: thought because he had told us that he was going
- 5:30Speaker 1: into the field and so we thought we'd give him
- 5:33Speaker 1: a little bit of time. What does that day? What
- 5:36Speaker 1: does that mean he's going into the field. Well, that
- 5:40Speaker 1: they would, you know, just do maneuvers out in the desert,
- 5:46Speaker 1: what their equipment and they sleep out there. And in
- 5:51Speaker 1: the US, you know, yes, in the US here at
- 5:54Speaker 1: Poor Bliss, because like you said, I always try to
- 5:58Speaker 1: tell my friends because we did live in Ireland for
- 6:01Speaker 1: a bit, I think Fort Bliss is bigger than Ireland.
- 6:05Speaker 1: So it's a huge, vast post. And on day thirty six,
- 6:12Speaker 1: my husband finally succumbed to my nagging and called his
- 6:18Speaker 1: leadership on Patricia I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but
- 6:21Speaker 1: I want to understand the timeline because I consider that
- 6:25Speaker 1: very critical and really one of the elementary blocks on
- 6:29Speaker 1: which he build. In a case, he's so handsome, he
- 6:35Speaker 1: doesn't even look real. I mean, I'm looking at a
- 6:37Speaker 1: picture of him right now in his army outfit, and
- 6:41Speaker 1: he is so proud. He's got some kind of a
- 6:44Speaker 1: ribbon around his neck where he's obviously won sometimes of
- 6:47Speaker 1: illegal My dad did that. My dad was proud of him.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Oh look at him, and there he is. That's got
- 6:55Speaker 1: to be you standing there in a tunic top and
- 6:57Speaker 1: hugging each other. And I just keep thinking about my
- 7:02Speaker 1: own son, and honestly, he really doesn't look that much older.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I mean, he's just so handsome and I'm looking at him.
- 7:11Speaker 1: But back to the timeline. Let me get my mind
- 7:14Speaker 1: on my own son and back into your son. I
- 7:17Speaker 1: know you speak to him regularly, but the fact that
- 7:22Speaker 1: several weeks went by you attributed that to him being
- 7:26Speaker 1: out in the field. Correct, yes, And also because he
- 7:30Speaker 1: left his phone in a laundry match, Oh yes, and
- 7:35Speaker 1: he was using an old his old phone. Crime Stories
- 7:48Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace guys Today's program is dear to our hearts.
- 7:53Speaker 1: We love our military, and right now one of our
- 7:56Speaker 1: own needs your help. Tipline nine four one seven seven
- 8:00Speaker 1: zero zero six zero repeat nine four one six seven
- 8:05Speaker 1: seven zero zero six zero. We're talking about, of course,
- 8:10Speaker 1: this handsome young man, Richard Halliday, his mom and dad
- 8:14Speaker 1: with us back to you, Patricia. So when several days
- 8:18Speaker 1: passing you didn't hear from him, you weren't as worried
- 8:21Speaker 1: as you normally would have been. So you get your
- 8:24Speaker 1: husband Rob to call Rob Halliday with us, this is
- 8:28Speaker 1: Richard's dad. How did Patricia get you to start calling? Well,
- 8:33Speaker 1: you know we're married, she's my wife. I say, let's
- 8:39Speaker 1: give him some time. He's a single man, he'll get
- 8:42Speaker 1: a hold of us. He's doing his own thing. He
- 8:45Speaker 1: could be out training, we don't know. And I'm going
- 8:48Speaker 1: to give him some time. I'm not going to call
- 8:50Speaker 1: his boss and check up on him. So, but finally
- 8:53Speaker 1: I just succumbed to it. So on the twenty eighth
- 8:56Speaker 1: of August, thirty six days after he went missing, we
- 9:02Speaker 1: get I call the Italian one four three ADA staff
- 9:10Speaker 1: duty officer and they passed me to his battery and
- 9:14Speaker 1: the battery commander says your son is a deserter. Oh,
- 9:18Speaker 1: dear Lord in heaven, just when you said that, I
- 9:22Speaker 1: felt chills going down my whole body. A deserter. No,
- 9:26Speaker 1: Richard Halliday is not a deserter. What did you think
- 9:30Speaker 1: when they said that, Well, my mouth dropped open. I
- 9:33Speaker 1: think the commander was almost in tears because they had
- 9:37Speaker 1: a hard time getting hold of us. But they did.
- 9:40Speaker 1: You know, they didn't really try very hard if you
- 9:42Speaker 1: ask me, you know, because I'm a thirty year veteran
- 9:46Speaker 1: of the United States Army and in less than one
- 9:49Speaker 1: minute they can get my phone and number and where
- 9:53Speaker 1: I live. And Rob, Patricia, let's be real. If we
- 9:56Speaker 1: can put a man on the moon, they can't find
- 9:59Speaker 1: your number, really exactly. I mean, we found you. For
- 10:04Speaker 1: Pete's sake, we found you, and we're not the Army
- 10:07Speaker 1: with all their intel. So there's an example right there.
- 10:11Speaker 1: So I'm just telling you, as much as you don't
- 10:14Speaker 1: want to hear it, Rob, as a trial lawyer, I'm
- 10:16Speaker 1: telling you they did not try to find you because
- 10:19Speaker 1: we found right now, back to that moment, then, what happened, Rob, Well,
- 10:25Speaker 1: you know we were kind of like a deserter. How
- 10:29Speaker 1: did you bring that to Patricia. I just kind of
- 10:34Speaker 1: she was across from me because we were working on
- 10:35Speaker 1: our little business, and she just she couldn't believe it.
- 10:39Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. In fact, I stopped kind of
- 10:42Speaker 1: hearing the commander and talk. Maybe a few more minutes.
- 10:48Speaker 1: I don't even remember the rest of the conversation, and
- 10:51Speaker 1: we had to call back. You know what, Rob, But
- 10:53Speaker 1: you know it's interesting. When I first started prosecuting, if
- 10:57Speaker 1: people would tell me they blanked out, I would pooh poo, Right,
- 11:02Speaker 1: it's just something you don't want to tell me. So
- 11:05Speaker 1: you're saying you're blanked you blanked out. But that's not true.
- 11:09Speaker 1: That is not true. Because I've been asked a lot
- 11:12Speaker 1: of questions about my fiance's murderer, his funeral, the trial
- 11:18Speaker 1: of the guy that killed him, and Rob, I've got
- 11:20Speaker 1: to tell you a lot of it, and immediately did
- 11:24Speaker 1: not remember it. I just guess I don't want to
- 11:26Speaker 1: remember it. But I hear you. I get it. What
- 11:29Speaker 1: is that called, Karen Start, you're the psychologist. What is
- 11:32Speaker 1: it when you don't want to hear something so you
- 11:36Speaker 1: don't hear it. It's repression and denial, Nancy, It's something
- 11:40Speaker 1: that's true, painful and huge to hold on to it,
- 11:45Speaker 1: and so you're unconscious takes over and it minds up
- 11:50Speaker 1: repressing it so that you sort of know it's there,
- 11:53Speaker 1: but you don't really or just deny it that it
- 11:56Speaker 1: ever happens to Patricia Halliday, could you make out what
- 12:01Speaker 1: they were telling your husband, Rob, that your son's a deserter?
- 12:05Speaker 1: Was right? Because my husband was mouthing to me. We
- 12:09Speaker 1: have a desk where it's two sided, so over the
- 12:12Speaker 1: desk he was mouthing to me what they were saying,
- 12:15Speaker 1: and it was absolutely shocking. But what shocked me is
- 12:20Speaker 1: the thirty sixth days because our daughter Hannah, when we
- 12:24Speaker 1: told her, she goes, Mom, get in the car, hurry up,
- 12:27Speaker 1: go to all Passo, get Richard, and I'm like, Hannah,
- 12:30Speaker 1: thirty six days? Where do we start? Thirty six days?
- 12:36Speaker 1: And that has just echoed in my memory. In my memory,
- 12:42Speaker 1: the helplessness. That's because we couldn't even file a missing
- 12:45Speaker 1: person's report. Why why couldn't you Because he was not
- 12:51Speaker 1: in the jurisdiction of the al Passo Police, and he
- 12:54Speaker 1: wasn't in the jurisdiction of anyone in Florida where we live.
- 12:58Speaker 1: And and he was dropped from the rules from the Army.
- 13:02Speaker 1: The army I had handed off. They didn't you know,
- 13:05Speaker 1: Oh well, I had told the Stars and Stripes reporter.
- 13:08Speaker 1: They kind of threw them out like an old shoe,
- 13:11Speaker 1: you know. At feeling you're talking about of helplessness. I
- 13:15Speaker 1: remember when I had just floated back to New York,
- 13:21Speaker 1: home to New York with the twins and had gotten
- 13:23Speaker 1: them in bed, and I called home and my mom said,
- 13:28Speaker 1: they want to put your dad on life support. I
- 13:30Speaker 1: got us all out in the street to hail a
- 13:33Speaker 1: cab at midnight Patricia, to try to get home. And
- 13:37Speaker 1: the next let's just say fourteen hours, was just a
- 13:41Speaker 1: horrible odyssey of trying to get to my dad. I
- 13:46Speaker 1: didn't know what I was going to be able to
- 13:47Speaker 1: do when I got to him, but I knew I
- 13:48Speaker 1: couldn't do anything until I got there. So, Patricia, what
- 13:52Speaker 1: did you guys do? Well, after we got our bearings
- 13:57Speaker 1: a little bit and no one was willing to help
- 14:01Speaker 1: except for our family and friends. Um, we took Tom
- 14:06Speaker 1: to the media. We tried to call media, We started
- 14:11Speaker 1: our find Richard Howiday Facebook page and just started trying
- 14:16Speaker 1: to reach out to people and tell our story over
- 14:19Speaker 1: and over again, and um, I said that this is
- 14:23Speaker 1: a failure of leadership from the US Army, and that
- 14:26Speaker 1: got people's attention. So you have to be a little
- 14:29Speaker 1: bold and fearless. And then um, some people listened to you.
- 14:32Speaker 1: And that's when the Army came back and contacted us,
- 14:35Speaker 1: but not um to say that that we were we
- 14:41Speaker 1: were using bad words like failure in leadership, and it
- 14:47Speaker 1: was to intimidate us, um not to go to the media.
- 14:52Speaker 1: And so I'm like, well, then you need to give
- 14:56Speaker 1: us help. When you said no one was willing to
- 14:59Speaker 1: help you. But friends and family, did you ask the
- 15:04Speaker 1: army for details when Richard was last saying and to
- 15:07Speaker 1: help you find him? Yeah, but they stayed out. Well,
- 15:12Speaker 1: they said they don't look for a wall or deserters. Um,
- 15:17Speaker 1: he has a federal worn out further rust. But then
- 15:20Speaker 1: when they when the media started kicking in, our daughter
- 15:23Speaker 1: had an Instagram posts that had over forty thousand shares,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and so they came back and said, okay, well we'll
- 15:31Speaker 1: we'll give you a gesture, we'll give you the CID,
- 15:34Speaker 1: but we have a witness saying that he walked away.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Well that turned out to be a lie. They have
- 15:40Speaker 1: no one um that I saw them walk away, and
- 15:44Speaker 1: they also said they knew what he was wearing, but
- 15:46Speaker 1: that also turned out to be a lie. So you know,
- 15:50Speaker 1: when so much. Miss Holliday of the Vanessa Gean case
- 15:55Speaker 1: where Vanessa's sister Myra draw through the night, through the
- 15:58Speaker 1: night alone the rain, hours and hours drive by herself,
- 16:02Speaker 1: gets there. They basically turn her away from Fort Hood.
- 16:06Speaker 1: She goes back and gets misinformation, complete misinformation. Guys, we
- 16:12Speaker 1: really need your help, and we need it now. Please.
- 16:16Speaker 1: The tip line is nine four one six seven seven
- 16:20Speaker 1: zero zero six zero repeat nine four one six seven
- 16:25Speaker 1: seven zero zero six zero. Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.
- 16:42Speaker 1: We're trying to find Handsome may not be the right word.
- 16:46Speaker 1: I think he's beautiful. He's perfectly chiseled. This young man
- 16:50Speaker 1: just just twenty one years old. Deserter, no way, this guy,
- 16:57Speaker 1: twenty one year old Richard Halliday, No. Number one in
- 17:01Speaker 1: his entire basic training class number one in the AI,
- 17:07Speaker 1: the individual training number one. Somebody that works that hard
- 17:12Speaker 1: is not gonna then turn around and dessert that did
- 17:16Speaker 1: not happen. Their mother, his mother and father are pleading
- 17:19Speaker 1: for your help and I am joining them. How many
- 17:25Speaker 1: young people in our military must die or go missing
- 17:29Speaker 1: before they get it. We need help from the military,
- 17:33Speaker 1: and we need your help. Straight back to you and
- 17:36Speaker 1: Emerson WIV ABC four and what can you tell me? Now?
- 17:40Speaker 1: We hear the mother, Patricia Halliday talking about the army
- 17:45Speaker 1: stating he was seeing quote walking away that turned out
- 17:48Speaker 1: to be not true. First of all, I want you
- 17:51Speaker 1: to take a list of our friend Naticia Paloma at KTSM.
- 17:55Speaker 1: After getting back from deployment. The COVID nineteen pandemic hit
- 17:59Speaker 1: and has changed. Thirty sixth days went by. We didn't
- 18:04Speaker 1: hear from him, something the parents say Richard would never do.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Richard's father calling for Bliss only to find out his
- 18:12Speaker 1: son was gone thirty six days. What do we do?
- 18:17Speaker 1: Where do we go? You know? Thirty six days for
- 18:20Speaker 1: Bliss telling the family the soldier went a wall or
- 18:23Speaker 1: absent without leave. They say the military never reached out
- 18:27Speaker 1: to too. It took like two days to being things through.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Start calling people, you know. I also want you to
- 18:34Speaker 1: hear this. Our friends at KFOX take a listen. Richard
- 18:39Speaker 1: Holliday was last seen by other soldiers out for Bliss
- 18:41Speaker 1: on July twenty fourth. His mother, Patricia says they didn't
- 18:44Speaker 1: know he was missing until more than a month later,
- 18:47Speaker 1: when she contacted his unit. On August twenty eighth, the
- 18:49Speaker 1: Holidays drove more than twenty hours from Saraso to Florida
- 18:52Speaker 1: to Olpasso, and for the past two weeks they've been
- 18:54Speaker 1: holding demonstrations and rallies to raise awareness about his disappearance.
- 18:58Speaker 1: The family is now searching across the border into what
- 19:01Speaker 1: is filing a missing person's record with the Chihuahua Attorney
- 19:04Speaker 1: General's office. Here in ol Passo, they met with Congresswoman
- 19:07Speaker 1: Bronicat Escobar. They see. Their meeting was very productive and
- 19:10Speaker 1: then she'll be helping with the search and we are
- 19:13Speaker 1: really I'm very excited that Representative Escobar is going to
- 19:19Speaker 1: come to one of our candle rallies, candle rallies, tiplines,
- 19:26Speaker 1: Facebook pages. But still no spottings of Richard Halliday that
- 19:31Speaker 1: can be believed An Emerson WCIV. What do you know
- 19:34Speaker 1: what about that last sighting? Well, what we've heard so
- 19:37Speaker 1: far is that there are a couple of things that
- 19:39Speaker 1: have happened. One is that when they first started investigating
- 19:43Speaker 1: the CID, which is the Criminal Investigation Division for the Army.
- 19:46Speaker 1: The Special Agents took over on September first. They did
- 19:49Speaker 1: conduct an in depth, according to them, in depth forensic search,
- 19:54Speaker 1: said that they found nothing that suggested foul play. Now
- 19:57Speaker 1: they also have done searches with they said to two
- 20:00Speaker 1: hundred members of the military joined them in twenty miles
- 20:03Speaker 1: of trails in the Franklin Mountain State Park and another
- 20:07Speaker 1: trail near Fort Bliss. They'd gone through eighty barracks to
- 20:11Speaker 1: just kind of talk about what, you know, the extent
- 20:13Speaker 1: that they say that they've been through, as well as
- 20:16Speaker 1: looked at surrounding homes that are around the Fort Bliss area.
- 20:20Speaker 1: What's particularly concerning is that about about three weeks later,
- 20:25Speaker 1: a spokesperson for the Army came back and said there's
- 20:27Speaker 1: new evidence to suggest he may have left the base
- 20:30Speaker 1: earlier than thought, which would have been July twenty third.
- 20:35Speaker 1: That was the date. Don't they call Muster, I mean,
- 20:40Speaker 1: don't they know to you, Rob Halliday, you're Richard's dad,
- 20:44Speaker 1: but you're a thirty year veteran. Don't they call Muster
- 20:47Speaker 1: and know who's there and who's not there. Yes, they
- 20:51Speaker 1: usually have formations depending on the company or the battery
- 20:55Speaker 1: level and their routine. You know, when I was in
- 20:58Speaker 1: the military, we'd have three a day. But I don't
- 21:01Speaker 1: know what they what Richard was doing because we never
- 21:04Speaker 1: talked that. So, but yeah, they usually have at least
- 21:07Speaker 1: one formation a day at the beginning, or they not
- 21:10Speaker 1: know the last day he was there. Well, you know,
- 21:13Speaker 1: there's things you can think about. But are they covering
- 21:17Speaker 1: up something? I mean, somebody saw him. I mean he
- 21:19Speaker 1: was under escort twenty four to seven because he was
- 21:22Speaker 1: they were putting him out of the army. So there's
- 21:26Speaker 1: a lot of different scenarios or courses of action. But
- 21:30Speaker 1: but you know, we're not told anything. Well, I don't
- 21:33Speaker 1: understand what you mean he was under escort. Well, we
- 21:36Speaker 1: were told because you know, uh, you know, there's a
- 21:40Speaker 1: lot of things we didn't know about Richard from January
- 21:42Speaker 1: till now, things that happened to him, And we did
- 21:49Speaker 1: know that when he was in Qatar. You know, I
- 21:53Speaker 1: talked to him a lot, and he had some concerns
- 21:55Speaker 1: about leadership and he was really thinking about getting out
- 21:58Speaker 1: of the military. Now, this is the guy that was
- 21:59Speaker 1: doing really, really really well. You know, he had three
- 22:04Speaker 1: Army achievement medals in less than fourteen months, you know.
- 22:08Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get an Army Achievement medal until
- 22:10Speaker 1: about fifth or six a year in the service. So
- 22:13Speaker 1: he was and then all of a sudden it just
- 22:15Speaker 1: changed because I don't know if he noticed something or
- 22:18Speaker 1: he you know, uh, well with his leadership. He didn't
- 22:24Speaker 1: mention any kind of other things other than leadership, and
- 22:28Speaker 1: he kind of still talked that when he got back
- 22:30Speaker 1: from Cutter. You know, he did visit us last August
- 22:33Speaker 1: after his return from his deployment. He was there for
- 22:36Speaker 1: about eight days and then he went back to He
- 22:38Speaker 1: first started as saying he was having concerns with leadership.
- 22:40Speaker 1: He was in Cutter at the time, yes, ma'am. Interesting,
- 22:44Speaker 1: so it seems to me that he may have voiced
- 22:47Speaker 1: those concerns and now he's missing climb Store's with Nancy Greece.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Richard Halliday has a certain clearance. He's done very, very
- 23:08Speaker 1: well in the Army, and even though he's been upset
- 23:10Speaker 1: with some of the leadership decisions. I find it very
- 23:12Speaker 1: difficult to believe that he would ate dessert when he
- 23:16Speaker 1: could have very easily left at the end of a
- 23:18Speaker 1: term and be not contact his parents. Patricia Halliday, this
- 23:23Speaker 1: is Richard's mother who is joining us today to try
- 23:26Speaker 1: to help find her son. Put yourself at her shoes
- 23:28Speaker 1: for a moment. Think about it. Your son goes missing
- 23:32Speaker 1: and you don't find out for thirty six days, Patricia,
- 23:35Speaker 1: didn't You guys have a rule of sword set at
- 23:39Speaker 1: the very least every two weeks. He would check in,
- 23:43Speaker 1: and it was two weeks because you don't know what
- 23:45Speaker 1: assignment he would have been sent on. And he had
- 23:47Speaker 1: always done that correct absolutely. And the Army has a
- 23:51Speaker 1: standard operating procedure to notify family or closest relative when
- 23:58Speaker 1: a soldier goes missing right after twenty four hours and
- 24:02Speaker 1: then two weeks after, it's their duty to send a
- 24:05Speaker 1: letter to the address. Also, you know I'm saying, can happen? Yeah,
- 24:09Speaker 1: none of that happened. So they broke their own protocol,
- 24:11Speaker 1: which tells me we're not getting a true story. Guys,
- 24:15Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to a public
- 24:18Speaker 1: service announcement. My name is Breader General Dave Stewart, the
- 24:22Speaker 1: thirty second Army Heir and Missile Defense Commanding General. Here
- 24:26Speaker 1: on Fort Bliss, Mister and missus Halliday are looking for
- 24:29Speaker 1: their son and our soldier, Private Richard Halliday. He was
- 24:32Speaker 1: last seen on Fort Bliss July twenty third. Yes, I'm
- 24:36Speaker 1: Rob Holliday, the Richard's father, and yes, I fishes believe
- 24:40Speaker 1: our son maybe in the l Passo or Greater l
- 24:42Speaker 1: Passo area. He is twenty one years old, five feet
- 24:46Speaker 1: nine inches tall, weight of one hundred and sixty pounds,
- 24:49Speaker 1: with black hair and hazel eyes. Straight out to Rob Halliday,
- 24:53Speaker 1: this is Richard's father. I noticed then when the Brigadier
- 24:57Speaker 1: General Dave Stewart was speaking, he said, our soldier, that
- 25:01Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he's talking about a deserter. To me, well, yes, uh,
- 25:06Speaker 1: things change when we got here, and they did, uh
- 25:10Speaker 1: for lack of federal words passed by us with changing
- 25:12Speaker 1: his status or adding to his status missing along with it.
- 25:17Speaker 1: But they never removed the desertion because you know, there
- 25:21Speaker 1: has to be a well I guess they don't have
- 25:23Speaker 1: to be a crime, but you know, it is the
- 25:24Speaker 1: Criminal Investigation Division, so there needs to be a crime,
- 25:29Speaker 1: and his crime was desertion, so they so then that
- 25:33Speaker 1: helps with their investigation. Where is this coming from? An
- 25:36Speaker 1: Emerson w CIV ABC four that he was last seeing
- 25:40Speaker 1: in El Paso. Where is that information coming from. Well,
- 25:43Speaker 1: there is a claim as well that there's a woman
- 25:46Speaker 1: who who said that she saw the credit card of
- 25:49Speaker 1: Richard Halliday when she was with another soldier. UM, there
- 25:54Speaker 1: was this claim was made that when she talked to
- 25:57Speaker 1: the to this other soldier, that he told her that
- 26:02Speaker 1: Holliday had fled the country and was in Cancoon with
- 26:05Speaker 1: a girlfriend. That was one of the reasons from what
- 26:08Speaker 1: I understand, that this search was extended into Mexico. And
- 26:13Speaker 1: this claim was just a month ago in October, so
- 26:18Speaker 1: that was part of how this has started to extend.
- 26:21Speaker 1: There's been several sightings. I mean when you when we
- 26:23Speaker 1: talked about El Paso, UM, you know, when this started
- 26:27Speaker 1: finally getting into the hands of law enforcement in the area,
- 26:31Speaker 1: they were getting people to come forward who said that
- 26:34Speaker 1: they possibly saw Richard Halliday in that area. So that's
- 26:38Speaker 1: where that's where those sort of claims. It's running bus
- 26:41Speaker 1: because people are speaking up. I got it, guys. Take
- 26:43Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Natasha Paloma, Katie sm I'll
- 26:46Speaker 1: cut sixteen order and meal or Huban Hissuari Probert carts
- 26:50Speaker 1: go in that mess of credit cards. Jane says she
- 26:53Speaker 1: noticed a blue and white one with a familiar name,
- 26:57Speaker 1: Howidy last name Monday, He'd say, or I need you
- 27:02Speaker 1: hide this one. I say, why, said, because it's from
- 27:07Speaker 1: a missing soldier. Jane tells us the soldier remained calm
- 27:10Speaker 1: and relaxed and told her Richard Halliday had fled to
- 27:13Speaker 1: Cancoun with his girlfriend. She says, the soldier told her
- 27:17Speaker 1: he was doing Halliday a favored looking for him, so
- 27:20Speaker 1: I need to use them here in order for the
- 27:24Speaker 1: military to think that he's still here. We did reach
- 27:27Speaker 1: out to CID or, the Army's Criminal Investigation Command. They
- 27:31Speaker 1: sent us a statement that said, in part quote, we
- 27:34Speaker 1: are fully aware of the allegations and have conducted extensive
- 27:37Speaker 1: investigative activity surrounding the allegations and continue to do so.
- 27:42Speaker 1: To Rob Holliday, this is Richard's father, Rob, how can
- 27:47Speaker 1: I understand that some of the sidings are overlapping, that
- 27:49Speaker 1: there's an allegation that he's in Cancoon with a woman,
- 27:54Speaker 1: but yet there are sidings of him in al Paso
- 27:57Speaker 1: and none of it has been verified to my understanding. Well,
- 28:00Speaker 1: that's correct. There there's been uh, there's been sightings of
- 28:04Speaker 1: a of a of a gentleman that looks like Richard.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Now we've seen some pictures of these and there's no
- 28:11Speaker 1: way that they are Richard, but many of them don't.
- 28:13Speaker 1: We don't have any proof. So, like UH was said,
- 28:17Speaker 1: most of the leads are in uh or as right now,
- 28:21Speaker 1: and UH not much happening at Fort Bliss where he
- 28:25Speaker 1: was last seen, not really all pass though now it
- 28:29Speaker 1: was Fort Bliss proper. Someone probably the last person. We
- 28:33Speaker 1: don't know a name because CID won't give us any
- 28:36Speaker 1: info because they're investigating. They don't give us anything except,
- 28:42Speaker 1: you know, maybe some results of all the many subpoenas
- 28:44Speaker 1: and warrants they've done to try to get information about Richard.
- 28:47Speaker 1: But we don't know who saw him last. It's probably
- 28:50Speaker 1: one of his escorts, understand So the last confirmed sighting
- 28:56Speaker 1: he was on Fort Bliss, correct. I mean, if you're so,
- 29:00Speaker 1: we'll call you practically every day, all the way from Cutter.
- 29:04Speaker 1: You don't think, Patricia, he would call from Cancaan. I
- 29:08Speaker 1: don't believe for a minute that he's in Cancoon, even
- 29:11Speaker 1: though I would hope. I would be happy if that
- 29:14Speaker 1: was the case, because that would mean he's alive. But
- 29:18Speaker 1: because of our rewards and also the military reward of
- 29:24Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars all in thirty seven thousand dollars right, yes,
- 29:28Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars exactly. And so people were calling in,
- 29:34Speaker 1: you know, with any kind of siding, and Richard looks
- 29:36Speaker 1: a little Puerto Rican, so he blends in really well
- 29:39Speaker 1: in Warrez and in this Elpaso area. So that's why
- 29:43Speaker 1: we receive those kind of calls. There is a twenty
- 29:46Speaker 1: five thousand dollars reward from the military, a twelve thousand
- 29:50Speaker 1: dollars we war put up by the family. They have
- 29:52Speaker 1: traveled to the location or desperately looking for their son.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Won't you please help them? Go online? Look Richard Halliday,
- 30:01Speaker 1: and you guys have made a Facebook page. It's that correct, Patricia, Yes,
- 30:06Speaker 1: find Richard Halliday. And we have a petition right now
- 30:10Speaker 1: to change his designation, which they the Army did, um do.
- 30:14Speaker 1: We'll find out more today they made They designated him
- 30:17Speaker 1: as just one, which is more of a casualty designation.
- 30:23Speaker 1: But they will let us know more about that because
- 30:26Speaker 1: this is that the precedent, he's the first conas soldier
- 30:30Speaker 1: was with that designation. So we're trying to um Patricia,
- 30:34Speaker 1: I guess try to get them to do their duty
- 30:37Speaker 1: and find our sons. Go to find Word of Holliday
- 30:41Speaker 1: online or to climb online dot com for more on
- 30:45Speaker 1: Richard Halliday, Patricia, When you wake up first thing in
- 30:50Speaker 1: the morning, do you ever forget, just for a few seconds,
- 30:54Speaker 1: that Richard has gone? No. I run down to the
- 30:58Speaker 1: computer in my pad and write on everything that I
- 31:00Speaker 1: was thinking of during the night. You're all consuming, rob
- 31:07Speaker 1: How do you guys even put your head on the
- 31:09Speaker 1: pillow knowing that Richard is missing? Well, there's only one way.
- 31:14Speaker 1: There's our trying. God's number one in our lives. We've
- 31:16Speaker 1: had a lot of help from the church here, and
- 31:19Speaker 1: we receive a lot of prayers from not only pastlings
- 31:23Speaker 1: but citizens of Mexico there in Warez. These many rallies
- 31:29Speaker 1: has helped out. But prayer and going to God with
- 31:34Speaker 1: prayer gives give us strengthened and energy to keep moving forward.
- 31:38Speaker 1: But but it is very hard, it's very time consuming
- 31:42Speaker 1: to get motivated to stay active. It's like, uh, you know,
- 31:46Speaker 1: for lack of better words, Robin pat is really leading
- 31:50Speaker 1: this investigation, not the c I D. They're waiting for
- 31:55Speaker 1: leads from us you know, I know they're doing some work,
- 32:00Speaker 1: but you know, I mean and it's safe to say that.
- 32:03Speaker 1: You know, if the army after twenty four hours says
- 32:07Speaker 1: a soldier is or female male is a wall and
- 32:11Speaker 1: then thirty days later as a deserter, they have no
- 32:14Speaker 1: experience in how to find a missing soldier unless unless
- 32:18Speaker 1: it's uh uh somebody and during the time of war
- 32:23Speaker 1: and conflict, they'll send a bunch of folks out with
- 32:26Speaker 1: what they do with this dust one okonas which dust
- 32:30Speaker 1: one is an acronym meaning a duty status whereabouts unknown
- 32:35Speaker 1: and uh and nell search real heart, spend a lot
- 32:38Speaker 1: of money, you know, but it's it's kind of a
- 32:40Speaker 1: day late, the dollars short from Iceland. But if this
- 32:43Speaker 1: goes forward, it's great for future things that happen with
- 32:46Speaker 1: soldiers uh to to actively spend some time and money
- 32:51Speaker 1: in search and then label him or her an a
- 32:55Speaker 1: wall soldier. But for Richard, the search could have been
- 32:58Speaker 1: taken seriously. I didn't even call mom and dad, so
- 33:02Speaker 1: I don't know why, Miss Halliday. What more can you
- 33:05Speaker 1: tell us? Well, um, we have um information now from
- 33:11Speaker 1: three sources that said that um, there was some extortion
- 33:16Speaker 1: going on in the barracks that if you wanted to
- 33:19Speaker 1: leave the barracks because of these uh sickness measures that
- 33:23Speaker 1: you had to you had to pay the CQUM and
- 33:26Speaker 1: that could range up to eighty dollars. And some soldiers
- 33:30Speaker 1: didn't want to pay that eighty dollars, so they went
- 33:32Speaker 1: out the back door to have a little freedom in
- 33:34Speaker 1: their own country. So um, you know, so there was
- 33:39Speaker 1: you know, there's just a lot of new developments why
- 33:43Speaker 1: he was being harassed. Were even really complaining about this
- 33:48Speaker 1: article fifteen that they had against him. That is a
- 33:51Speaker 1: bunch of garbage. It's souped sandwich. So um and if
- 33:56Speaker 1: and they are investigating because my husband sent to email
- 34:01Speaker 1: all the way up to General McConville about the sources
- 34:06Speaker 1: of what was going on in that unit. And they're
- 34:09Speaker 1: investigating that unit right now. So we have names, we
- 34:13Speaker 1: have even as high as as a lieutenant colonel participating
- 34:17Speaker 1: and this extortion of the soldiers being locked in shelter
- 34:22Speaker 1: and place in the barracks. Guys plays the tip line
- 34:25Speaker 1: nine four one six seven seven zero zero six zero
- 34:29Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off goodbye friend,