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- 0:00illegal fishing vessels thought that they can hide, but satellites
- 0:03and AR are catching them in the act in marine protected areas.
- 0:07Today I'll show you how this new technology is turning the
- 0:10tide for ocean conservation.
- 0:12When I read a recent study, I was shocked to see how many fishing vessels
- 0:16were detected inside marine protected areas, especially the more remote ones.
- 0:21These are places we imagine as untouched.
- 0:24But in reality, they're often the hardest to enforce and the easiest
- 0:27for illegal fishers to exploit.
- 0:30That hit me personally because MPAs are supposed to be our ocean's havens.
- 0:34but here's the good news.
- 0:36Satellites and AI are changing the game.
- 0:39We're finally catching vessels that thought that they can hide,
- 0:42and enforcement is starting to get smarter and stronger.
- 0:45In this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean Podcast, I'm gonna share
- 0:48real world examples of how these tools are already protecting the ocean and
- 0:53why it gives me hope for the future.
- 0:55So let's start the show.
- 0:58Hey everybody.
- 0:59Welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean Podcast.
- 1:02I'm your host, Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find
- 1:04out what's happening with the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean,
- 1:07and what you can do to live for a better ocean by taking action.
- 1:10Today we're gonna be talking about a lot of different things, all
- 1:13combined into one terrific story.
- 1:15We got AI, we got satellite imagery, we got synthetic aperture radar,
- 1:20which is like a really cool satellite.
- 1:22We've got machine learning.
- 1:23We got AIS, which is automatic identification system.
- 1:27we got marine protected areas.
- 1:28We got illegal fishing, fishing boats.
- 1:30There's all in one enforcement.
- 1:31It's a very exciting story, all packed in one research paper in
- 1:36the research journal science.
- 1:38Now we're gonna be going a little beyond that because this research paper showed
- 1:42an increase in illegal fishing activity in marine protected areas, especially
- 1:46those that were further away from the coast, so more remote, and they spent
- 1:50longer within those time, four hours.
- 1:52Per vessel in marine protectors per year.
- 1:55Not a really great story in terms of optimism, but then I wanted to go a little
- 2:00bit further and I found some examples of opportunities where satellites, AI and
- 2:05machine learning were used to detect an enforce, of course, and prevent further
- 2:10illegal fishing in marine protected areas.
- 2:12So we're gonna talk all about that on today's episode,
- 2:14which I can't wait to do that.
- 2:16But first, before we get into that, if you are interested in marine stuff, you
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- 2:50Let's get back into the story.
- 2:52This is really interesting.
- 2:53So this is how they use it.
- 2:54They use Synthetic Aperture, Aperture Radar SAR, satellite imagery,
- 2:58combined with AIS data, which is Automatic Identification System
- 3:03and AI and machine learning to detect industrial fishing vessels.
- 3:06So essentially what they did is they took the satellite
- 3:09imagery, which is really cool.
- 3:10It's not like your regular satellite.
- 3:11It basically takes the surface of the water and makes it really
- 3:15like an impenetrable marker.
- 3:17it looks like concrete and then it takes fishing vessels and makes them dark.
- 3:20So you can actually detect fishing vessels each and every way.
- 3:23It's really cool.
- 3:23They use it to monitor a lot, anything at the surface, they
- 3:26know where the boundaries of the marine protected areas are.
- 3:28They can find out where these fishing vessels are, so they overlay a map or a
- 3:32polygon of where these boundaries are.
- 3:34'cause they're invisible normally.
- 3:35We don't see an actual physical barrier in the ocean that goes down the water
- 3:39column to prevent people from coming in and fishing in marine protected areas.
- 3:44Now, before we go further, marine protected areas are areas where
- 3:47they protect any kind of extractive activity, including illegal fishing.
- 3:51It's usually to protect fish, allows fish to grow bigger, allows fish
- 3:55to grow more in terms of number and bigger so that they spill over the
- 3:59boundaries of the marine protected areas.
- 4:01And they get fished by fishermen legally, but they're not allowed.
- 4:05The fishermen are not allowed inside the boundaries of the marine
- 4:09protected areas because that is where they're allowed to grow.
- 4:11They're special areas, and so we need to protect them.
- 4:14These fishing vessels will come in because you know why?
- 4:16Nobody's there to watch them.
- 4:18Because the ocean is massive and you can't just keep, you
- 4:21know, boats there all the time.
- 4:23It's expensive.
- 4:24It's almost impossible to do that.
- 4:26So we have satellite imagery like sar, right?
- 4:28the satellite imagery allows, this picture to be taken at some point in time.
- 4:33To find out if there's any illegal boats that are in there.
- 4:35AIS data, Automatic Identification System, is placed on some of these boats that
- 4:40allows it and detects the GPS coordinates of where they are at any point in time.
- 4:45Well, within a certain interval.
- 4:46I think sometimes it's seconds.
- 4:47I've worked with this data before.
- 4:49You could really see, like if you look at worldwide and how this AIS has done
- 4:53for those boats, which are still a lot.
- 4:55Those boats that use it, you can actually see tracks all over the
- 4:57world and where these boats have gone, what flags they're flying.
- 5:00It's really cool data.
- 5:01Hard to get ahold of.
- 5:02It's usually managed and kept by the Coast Guard, but I've worked
- 5:05with it when I worked in government.
- 5:06It's really cool data to have.
- 5:08So you have these boats.
- 5:09So you know where they are.
- 5:10We know which boats are where, and then we have the satellite
- 5:13imagery to detect which boats are within the marine protected areas.
- 5:16And then you can find out basically on speed.
- 5:18So if they're trolling, you can see how they slow down.
- 5:20All this different type of stuff, you can find out all this with this data,
- 5:24and of course, AI and machine learning can quicken that processing speed so
- 5:28you can catch 'em almost in the act.
- 5:30So if they're coming to a border, you know where they're going.
- 5:32You can like basically deploy Coast Guard vessels or whatever the vessels
- 5:36are for each country to get out and to enforce this illegal fishing
- 5:40activity to prevent it from happening.
- 5:41So the faster the authorities can get on it, the better.
- 5:44So AI and machine learning help it.
- 5:45So you got satellites
- 5:46and AIS to detect the illegal activity.
- 5:49And you have AIS and machine learning to deploy the enforcement,
- 5:52to go out and catch them.
- 5:53So that's what the story was essentially.
- 5:55They focused on coastal marine protected areas globally between 2022 and 2024.
- 6:02Only coastal MPAs that are larger than one kilometer squared were
- 6:06considered since Ramona MPAs often lack consistent satellite data coverage.
- 6:11Okay.
- 6:11SAR satellite data coverage.
- 6:12So prevalance of fishing in MPAs, they detected industrial fishing
- 6:16happened in 47% of coastal MPAs worldwide during the study period.
- 6:20So that's only within two years.
- 6:21So many of the vessels detected 67% were untracked by public monitoring system.
- 6:26So no AIS so the satellites can detect all the boats that are there.
- 6:31The AIS can identify which boats have AIS and which boats don't.
- 6:35If you don't have AIS and you just see a boat there.
- 6:37Why aren't we being able to see this?
- 6:38This is consistent with other studies that show 75% of the
- 6:42fishing vessels around the world do not have AIS, they are untracked.
- 6:46This is very scary in terms of what is happening with fishing and illegal fishing
- 6:50because we can't track these boats.
- 6:52More effort needs to be done to track every single fishing vessel that is around
- 6:57anywhere.
- 6:58So having untracked vessels, not good.
- 7:00So surprisingly, the most restrictive MPAs where extractive activity is
- 7:04supposed to be prohibited at all costs, still had a lot of untracked vessels.
- 7:08About 80% of detections in those MPAs were on track.
- 7:12So that makes sense because they're not supposed to be there.
- 7:14So why would you have a tracked vessel in there?
- 7:16So that makes sense but still pretty scary.
- 7:18So the effectiveness or the lack thereof was not just tied to how restrictive
- 7:23the MPA is, like legally from by IUCN standards, but more strongly
- 7:28to remoteness and size of the MPA.
- 7:29So large and remote MPAs had more phishing vessel detections.
- 7:33Now, what's interesting to me is I wonder if we actually talk to
- 7:36these fishers if they even care about the boundaries or they are
- 7:38just going where the fish are now.
- 7:40Ideally in the marine protective areas because they work so well,
- 7:43you will see bigger and more fish.
- 7:45And so that's why they're probably going within those areas.
- 7:48so the average fishing vessel inside the MPAs was around four hours per square
- 7:54kilometer per year when both tracked and untracked vessels were counted.
- 7:58That's a lot of time.
- 7:59I know that sounds weird, but that's a lot of time thinking about how often
- 8:02these fishing vessels go into these areas where there's marine protected areas.
- 8:05So that is something that is not good, right?
- 8:08That's a lot of time in these marine protected areas.
- 8:10So the density and presence of fishing vessels, so tracked and untraced in
- 8:14MPAs correlate more strongly with MPA size and remoteness rather than
- 8:18the formal protection category.
- 8:20So it's not as if it's just, hey, it's protection, it's actually this
- 8:23size and the remoteness of the MPA.
- 8:26So here's the thing.
- 8:28We do have gaps in monitoring, right?
- 8:29That is one of the limitations that this study identifies.
- 8:33So public tracking systems, AIS miss a large portion of the phishing activity.
- 8:37Untracked vessels make up a large and major invisible pressure.
- 8:41That's something that we can't see through AIS.
- 8:44If you can't see the data on a map,
- 8:46it's really difficult, even though there's so much data, there's so many
- 8:48more vessels that are go on tracked.
- 8:50We also have to worry about paper parks.
- 8:51It's a risk when MPAs are designated, which takes a long
- 8:54time to designate them when they're designated, they need to be enforced.
- 8:58If they're not enforced, they're just considered paper parks,
- 9:01meaning that they're on paper.
- 9:02We see them on maps, but we don't actually enforce them.
- 9:05And so without the lack of sufficient enforcement and monitoring, we
- 9:08may see considerable phishing in these areas, which kind of
- 9:11nullifies the point of the MPA.
- 9:14We also need to integrate OnTrack surveillance.
- 9:16So using things like SAR, like the satellite machine learning and
- 9:21combining multiple data sources improves understanding of true phishing pressor.
- 9:25So a lot of the times when we do these studies, we have to understand how much
- 9:29pressure there is in phishing within these MPAs or just around the world.
- 9:33When you don't have the ability to identify who's fishing and who's not,
- 9:37or what's tracked and what's not tracked like what fishing vessels aren't tracked,
- 9:41we lose the ability to understand the true phishing pressure.
- 9:44So if we only look at tracked vessels, we only get a snapshot
- 9:48of what's actually happening.
- 9:49It's only a small representation when we have more vessels that
- 9:53are untracked, this can't be done.
- 9:54This is up to the fishing fleets or even the countries that allow
- 9:59fishing vessels to fly their flags.
- 10:01That's a whole thing.
- 10:02If you look at my recent interview with Dan Skerritt, you'll understand
- 10:05what these flags do and how easy it is to manipulate these flags
- 10:09and to fly under a different flag.
- 10:11To be able to do pretty much whatever you want.
- 10:13When these countries are not enforcing any of their laws, or if they even have
- 10:17laws, they may not have as many laws.
- 10:19So in integrating this information, surveillance, so SAR machine
- 10:23learning, AI, combining multiple data sources improves the understanding
- 10:27of true phishing pressures.
- 10:28Then you have model predictions.
- 10:30So because of limitations, not all vessels are greater than 15 meters.
- 10:34Variable satellite coverage, which is hard to get total satellite coverage
- 10:38whenever you want because they're in orbit and they only fly around
- 10:41certain areas once or twice a day.
- 10:43Distinguishing transit versus fishing vessels.
- 10:45So some are just in transit, some are actually actively fishing.
- 10:49And then the metrics that are estimates, actual fishing effort in some marine
- 10:52protectors may be higher, especially in places with weaker AIS coverage.
- 10:57So the fact that there's so many variables, we're not there physically
- 11:00all the time, these enforcement people, and we are seeing it from like, you
- 11:04know, orbit and we're seeing things like from a digital landscape, like
- 11:08on a GIS or a mapping tool and only seeing data points and maybe missing
- 11:12data points from untracked vessels.
- 11:14There are a lot of underestimations that are happening right now, and we
- 11:17have to assume that there's more fishing pressure around the world, especially
- 11:21within these marine protected areas.
- 11:22So now that's the bad news.
- 11:24I know this a lot and I appreciate you.
- 11:26You hand me the good news is coming.
- 11:28There are a lot of things that we can do and there are a lot of things
- 11:30that are being done, and I think that's something really interesting.
- 11:34Detecting dark vessels with SAR and AI.
- 11:36So here's how it works.
- 11:38SAR satellites can detect ships.
- 11:39I just kind of mentioned it, regardless of the weather or lightning, so that's good.
- 11:43AI models match SAR detections with AIS data to flag quote unquote dark vessels.
- 11:48Those that are not transmitting AIS.
- 11:50So, like I said before, the satellite imagery can actually detect what's
- 11:54in the marine protected area boundary, even though the AIS, like
- 11:57the DOT doesn't come up on a map.
- 11:59So an example of this is a 2025 study found that 67% of vessels
- 12:03inside the MPAs were untracked.
- 12:05This is the study that we just talked about.
- 12:06So now that we can detect untracked vessels, we're gonna be able to
- 12:10understand how many of these untracked vessels are gonna be there and maybe
- 12:14be able to deploy these vessels through like AI prediction models or
- 12:17machine learning prediction models.
- 12:19So authorities can prioritize patrols towards areas with high track vessel
- 12:23activity, closing a major enforcement gap.
- 12:26That's something that's really important.
- 12:27So here's another thing that they can do.
- 12:29Guiding patrols with real-time alerts.
- 12:31So AI driven analytics turn raw satellite detection into real-time alerts for
- 12:36coast guards and fisheries officers.
- 12:38So an example is the country.
- 12:40Gavin partnered with NGOs and Global Fishing Watch to use satellite data
- 12:43to direct naval patrols leading to the arrest of industrial trawlers
- 12:47operating illegally in MPAs.
- 12:49So instead of patrolling blindly, authorities can intercept in real
- 12:53time saving fuel and resources.
- 12:55That's a big, big win and a great example.
- 12:58Then you have the legal and court backed evidence.
- 13:00So satellite imagery combined with vessel tracks creates verifiable evidence
- 13:05admissible in legal or policy disputes.
- 13:07So an example, in Europe, court rulings upheld trawl bans and MPA
- 13:11strengthened by satellite based evidence showing incursions.
- 13:15So we see the actual stuff in court saying, Hey look, we may not have
- 13:19caught these vessels right away, but we know this is happening.
- 13:22We know the vessels.
- 13:24We're able to track them through AIS and satellites.
- 13:26Now we can give them the business, right?
- 13:28We can give them those court decisions where they're not gonna be
- 13:31very happy and they're gonna be fine.
- 13:32Now, those court decisions can be tougher if we put the right laws in place, and
- 13:37that's another issue, but that's something that we need to worry about in the future.
- 13:41So that provides a lot of like a black box record that regulators and
- 13:45cords can use to uphold restrictions.
- 13:47Now you've got persistent oversight of remote MPAs using that satellite imagery.
- 13:52and AI large scale surveillance.
- 13:54Remote MPAs are too vast for constant petroleum.
- 13:57We can't do it, but the UK Blue Belt program uses daily satellite imagery
- 14:01or monitoring for Tristan Una's, I think that's how you pronounce
- 14:04it, remote MPA to detect potential illegal activity with alerts directing
- 14:08patrols to areas to be avoided.
- 14:11It prevents remote MPAs becoming paper parks by providing
- 14:14consistent low cost oversight.
- 14:16So again, directing patrols through quick processing of this data to
- 14:20say, Hey, we actually found something when we're able to, and we're gonna
- 14:23direct these patrols to enforce.
- 14:25Over time, that's going to decrease what's happening.
- 14:29In Palau in 2025,
- 14:31using the combined satellite surveillance with long range drones to enforce its
- 14:36National Marine Sanctuary covering one of the world's largest no-take zones.
- 14:40So they use satellites to detect suspicious vessels, drones to verify
- 14:45and collect high resolution imagery and AI models confirming phishing
- 14:48activity, so the gear types, the patterns of behavior, and et cetera.
- 14:52So it creates a layered monitoring system, Increasing deterrence while
- 14:56reducing cost of ship based patrol.
- 14:58So think about this again.
- 15:00It's not just blindly patrolling the water where you'll never be able to find this.
- 15:04If you ever played battleship, if you ever played the game battleship,
- 15:06before you hit your first boat, you're blindly trying to hit like a 10 or B
- 15:11this, or B five or something like that, and then you finally hit something.
- 15:14Well, that's doing it blindly.
- 15:15But imagine if you had somebody behind you to just kind of be like, Hey.
- 15:19You know what?
- 15:20A 10 is actually gonna miss.
- 15:22Let's go B five.
- 15:23You're gonna hit the big battleship, right?
- 15:25And it's having something there to direct you.
- 15:27And now I know for the game that's cheating and don't cheat in battleship.
- 15:29The person you're playing against is not gonna like that.
- 15:31But here we have to cheat a little bit to get into it.
- 15:34And just by using data, we can better inform our patrols and save
- 15:38on a lot of money for patrolling.
- 15:40So then you got the promotion of transparency and deterrent.
- 15:43So publicly sharing satellite detected vessel activity,
- 15:46pressures fleets to comply.
- 15:48So just that public pressure allows us to say, Hey.
- 15:52This fishing vessel's awful.
- 15:54Where do they work?
- 15:54Oh, they work for such and such.
- 15:56That's who sells to such and such place.
- 15:58Don't buy from them.
- 15:59That public pressure, as we've seen, like in cancellation society that
- 16:03we live in today, that could help deter boats from doing such a thing.
- 16:06So Chile publishes industrial and artisanal fishing vessel tracks
- 16:10on global fishing watch and uses AI analysis to plan patrols.
- 16:14They just publicly just put it out there.
- 16:16So the transparency itself becomes a deterrent.
- 16:18Knowing your vessels, movements may be visible to NGOs, journalists, and
- 16:23the public reduces rule breaking.
- 16:25So think about that.
- 16:26Just think about these things that are actually working in
- 16:29countries where we can do better.
- 16:32We've been doing better.
- 16:34It is a very difficult challenge to manage fisheries across the globe,
- 16:37especially in areas in the high seas where countries don't really have
- 16:41a lot of ability to enforce, but in their own boundaries, in the exclusive
- 16:46economic zone where they can enforce things, it becomes a bigger picture.
- 16:51And if you can use things like AI, you can use things like satellite
- 16:54imagery, AIS, any kind of GPS technology 'cause there's others than AIS,
- 16:58you can use, drones even to direct patrols to say, Hey, you know what?
- 17:03We found the vessel.
- 17:04Boom, let's go get 'em and let's enforce what we're trying to do and let's
- 17:07protect this marine protected area.
- 17:09Truly and really decrease the amount of paper parks that we actually have.
- 17:14We know marine protected areas work.
- 17:16But we need to help them by enforcing them from extractive activities
- 17:20like illegal phishing, and we can do that using the new technology.
- 17:24It's being done.
- 17:25Although we can detect a lot of stuff, have bad stuff happening now we can really
- 17:28focus on remote areas, larger remote areas to say, Hey, we need to invest more
- 17:33of this technology or more money into this technology to detect things that
- 17:36are illegal activities such as phishing, and be able to enforce it better.
- 17:40That's the episode for today.
- 17:41I thought I would do a little bit of a deep dive.
- 17:43I know this is a longer episode than we normally do, but I thought this was
- 17:46really interesting and it's something that we need to continue to invest.
- 17:50So what you can do specifically as an individual is support places
- 17:55like the global Phish watch, right?
- 17:57Support organizations like the Ocean Conservancy, Oceana, World Wildlife Fund.
- 18:03These are all organizations, large organizations, international organizations
- 18:07that have global partners, not only from a conservation side, but also on the
- 18:12fishing side because you know, there's a lot of fishing partners that want to
- 18:15make sure that fishing is sustainable and that they're following the rules and
- 18:19be able to stomp out illegal activity.
- 18:21Let's reward the fishers that are doing things legally and let's, you
- 18:25know, enforce the rules for fishers who are doing things illegally.
- 18:29You can do that by supporting these organizations who are out there
- 18:32actively doing this type of stuff.
- 18:33So that's something I wanted to talk about today.
- 18:35I wanted you to know about more and more and more.
- 18:38We're gonna be covering these things in the future, so
- 18:41I'm really happy to do that.
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