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Chuck & Buck 1-7 Hour 2: 12th man news with Gregg Bell, Softy talks Demond and Reckless at breakfast. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 4: story was Berkeley Catton's first goal. We'll play that later,
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Speaker 1: With my help, you could be the best.
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Speaker 6: Oh wow, crack and win seven to four over the
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Speaker 6: Boston Bruins last night. That's eight wins in their last
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Speaker 6: nine games. And uh, not only are they winning all
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Speaker 6: of a sudden every single game they're dominating. They won
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Speaker 6: by two goals are more in four of their last
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Speaker 6: going to join us live this morning at nine thirty.
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Speaker 6: Greg Bell will also be joining us live in about
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Speaker 6: a minute. Let me get first through your frost brewed
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Speaker 6: cors Light shoe chill headlines. Demand Williams is leaving the
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Speaker 6: University of Washington. The Husky quarterback who looked to be
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Speaker 6: a top Heisman candidate heading into next year. Well, he
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Speaker 6: renegged on his commitment not just verbally but also contractually
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Speaker 6: with Washington and left under the cloak of darkness last.
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Speaker 1: Night, penning a not so sensitive.
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Speaker 6: Ladder on social media saying goodbye that he was entering
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Speaker 6: the transfer portal when pretty much everybody had already heard
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Speaker 6: that Lane Kiffen like a snake in the grass, had
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Speaker 6: signed him and he's moving to LSU. We are talking
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Speaker 6: about this a lot today. We're going to talk about
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Speaker 6: it with Softy Maler coming up here at seven thirty.
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Speaker 6: Apparently he's got a little bit more information that he
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Speaker 6: can share on this front. College football playoff will resume
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Speaker 6: tomorrow Ole Miss versus Miami. Indiana and Oregon will play
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Speaker 6: on Friday. The NFL Wildcard Playoff round starts on Saturday
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Speaker 6: with the Rams and Carolina and then the Packers.
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Speaker 1: Versus the Bears.
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Speaker 6: I don't see the Seahawks on the schedule for this weekend.
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Speaker 1: I thought we made the players, didn't we make the play?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they gotta buy that night number one season. Who
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Speaker 3: does that go to the best team in the conference?
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Speaker 1: Ah, well, good for you. See so they automatically advanced.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's like someone forfeited. Can't lose yep.
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Speaker 3: Basically, it's like they got the eighth seed to form.
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Speaker 4: These teams were too scared and didn't want to play.
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Speaker 1: Good call, Yeah, good call.
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Speaker 6: We must be really good then, So Seahawks on by
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Speaker 6: this week and they'll just sit back and watch. I mean,
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Speaker 6: Mike McDonald's giving him days off this week for goodness
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Speaker 6: sake and so enjoy. Greg Bell will talk about that
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Speaker 6: with us here in a moment. Let me also mention
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Speaker 6: that John Harball was fired in Baltimore yesterday. He has
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Speaker 6: immediately become the top candidate out there for one of
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Speaker 6: seven head coaching vacant season, maybe a couple of organizations
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Speaker 6: that don't have a head coaching vacancy and see Harball
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Speaker 6: as a possible improvement. And college basketball, you dub at
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Speaker 6: Purdue tonight to take on one of the best teams
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Speaker 6: in the country. Tip as at five thirty for the
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Speaker 6: fight sprinkles. Let's talk to Greg with the bell tolls.
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Speaker 7: Now with twelk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 7: and Budd.
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Speaker 6: When you're a you know, a Cope of Diamond Prosecco
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Speaker 6: guy like Greg Bell is, you're not just a man
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Speaker 6: of football interest. I mean, you've got a wide ranging interests.
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Speaker 6: You are a man of many tastes, many flavor electic, oh,
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Speaker 6: very international.
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Speaker 1: He's got an international flare about him.
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Speaker 6: He's always skiing and hiking and doing all sorts of
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Speaker 6: amazing things. So we won't just paint him in the
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Speaker 6: corner to talk about Seahawks, Not when we've got such
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Speaker 6: a big story in college football. Your two cents on
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Speaker 6: this Demon Williams story, Greg Bell, to get the conversation.
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Speaker 8: Started today, Well, I used to work for the university,
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Speaker 8: washing and inside the athletic department, and this reminds me
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Speaker 8: of how great J. C. Locker was And it makes
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Speaker 8: me sound like a dinosaur to bring him up in
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Speaker 8: a situation like this. But you're talking about a guy
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Speaker 8: who's loyal to his cause and his school and his commitment. Look,
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Speaker 8: they leave time that the college football is just beyond
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Speaker 8: broken greed and money and money and money.
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Speaker 5: And when you.
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Speaker 8: Stay to blame the NCAAA, what gets lost in that
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Speaker 8: is the NCAAA are the college presidents. There's nothing the
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Speaker 8: NCAA does and acts decides upon, makes those rules without
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Speaker 8: the college presidents approving it. The member schools are the
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Speaker 8: NCAA and the member schools specifically are the college presidents
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Speaker 8: who vote for what the NCAA.
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Speaker 5: Does and then this case does not do.
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Speaker 8: And it was the college presidents who decided to do
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Speaker 8: nothing when the Alston case in twenty twenty one first
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Speaker 8: started all of this.
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Speaker 5: With pay to play in il name angel likeness.
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Speaker 8: And they just decided to not do anything and then
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Speaker 8: fear getting sued, so they continue to do nothing. It's
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Speaker 8: the college presidents who have called cash grab and the
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Speaker 8: money and the television contracts, and the college presidents have
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Speaker 8: allowed this. And it's the college presidents of the biggest
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Speaker 8: schools in the big ten in the SEC. And I'm
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Speaker 8: looking at you, University of Washington, who are the most
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Speaker 8: culpable because they have the most to gain, because they
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Speaker 8: have the most resources. They have the donors who are
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Speaker 8: willing to bankroll this. The lsus of the world have
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Speaker 8: the donors. They'll see, yeah, well, just buy out Demon
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Speaker 8: Williams from his contract that he has supposedly agreed to,
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Speaker 8: whether he signed or not with the University of Washington.
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Speaker 5: We'll just try to check.
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Speaker 8: And there's no court that's going to step in and
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Speaker 8: say no, you have to actually play and force the
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Speaker 8: nineteen year old to play. So you have nineteen year
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Speaker 8: old kids getting adult money not learning the damn thing
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Speaker 8: about what commitments and word and the tiger just go
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Speaker 8: get mine, And you have million dollar boosters for greedy
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Speaker 8: college presidents who are.
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Speaker 5: Fueling all this.
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Speaker 8: When this will stop, when the donors finally say, I'm
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Speaker 8: not paying my millions of dollars for a quarterback who's
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Speaker 8: gonna leave in a year, and you're gonna come shake
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Speaker 8: me down and ask again the same Montlake people, Montlake
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Speaker 8: Futures people that they asked if they shook down to
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Speaker 8: get them on.
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Speaker 5: Williams to agree to stay four days ago.
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Speaker 8: Jetfish is gonna come back and ask them for more
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Speaker 8: money to get a new quarterback. And eventually those guys
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Speaker 8: are gonna say, you.
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Speaker 5: Know what, I'm gonna buy a yacht.
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go give to the symphony he heaven forbid.
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Speaker 8: Maybe I'll even donate to a charity instead of giving
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Speaker 8: my millions of dollars to a quarterback of the University
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Speaker 8: of Washington or at LSU. Or that may be a
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Speaker 8: poor example because no one will quit doing that in
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Speaker 8: the SEC but you get my point.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the donors.
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Speaker 8: The donors stop doing this is when the music will
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Speaker 8: stop and people this will crab cash crashing down. But
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Speaker 8: as long as donors are willing to pay for this allege,
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Speaker 8: presidents are willing to go along with it. And it's
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Speaker 8: all about money and greed and it's sick, It's really sick.
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Speaker 8: And then you have the optics of me and Hammett's
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Speaker 8: memorial yesterday. You know a lot of people that are
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Speaker 8: really really upset about that entire situation at the University
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Speaker 8: of Washington going through that, and then for the quarterback
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Speaker 8: to do what he did in the middle of all that,
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Speaker 8: where those teammates were in heck ed was a whole
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Speaker 8: nother part of this.
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Speaker 1: I's ride Buggy Greg had some faults, good stuff. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I mean, I'm and I'm with you.
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Speaker 3: I mean there's a there's an ugliness or just a
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Speaker 3: yuckiness to the entire thing. I mean, I don't think
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Speaker 3: it's entirely on the collective thing, because we've we just
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Speaker 3: moved into the place where now that the universities get
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Speaker 3: to pay now it was supposed to be just the
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Speaker 3: you know, like a cap twenty and a half million
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Speaker 3: bucks you spread that across all of the athletes, which
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Speaker 3: everybody knew ninety percent was going to go to football players,
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Speaker 3: or fifth eighty five percent was going to go to
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Speaker 3: football players.
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Speaker 1: So it's not the money's not going to stop.
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Speaker 3: If no more collectives were out there, if there was
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Speaker 3: nobody else paying the extra nil money on the name,
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Speaker 3: you know, that was aside from what they're getting paid
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Speaker 3: just to play, then I would be with you if
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Speaker 3: everybody just kind of got together, like, let's not do
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Speaker 3: this anymore, because why would you pay for some high
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Speaker 3: school kid that's going to come in for a year
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Speaker 3: and then move. I'm with you, but I just don't
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Speaker 3: think the money's going to dry up. The university is
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Speaker 3: aren't going to stop making money.
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Speaker 1: People believe that that twenty million dollar idea was going
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Speaker 1: to work.
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Speaker 8: No, well no, The point about the point about the
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Speaker 8: revenue share is if you cut out the nil, which
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Speaker 8: now the genies out of the bottle, and the courts
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Speaker 8: would never let you do that. Anyway, the revenue share
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Speaker 8: at least had a cap and at least there were
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Speaker 8: some regulations as to okay, this money came from this
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Speaker 8: source and would be paid to this university can choose
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Speaker 8: to pay this much money to this kid, and that's
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Speaker 8: a slotted cost is regulated and there is at least
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Speaker 8: a buide by something. The no guardrail part of the
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Speaker 8: nil is what I'm talking about. That's where the donor
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Speaker 8: money will actually stop, when those donors.
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Speaker 5: Will say, no, I'm done with this.
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Speaker 8: The revenue share piece, yeah, at least there's some guard
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Speaker 8: rails to that. The unguard rail, unregulated piece is what
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Speaker 8: we're talking about, and that's what that will.
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Speaker 5: That's where the.
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Speaker 8: Haves get richer and the have nots fall off. And
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Speaker 8: you're seeing it already in some of the universities. I
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Speaker 8: read a story the Denver Post yesterday had a color
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Speaker 8: University of Colorado donor who.
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Speaker 5: Said, I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore.
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Speaker 8: You're asking me to up it for so I can
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Speaker 8: increase Deon Sanders' contract, and you're asking me to up
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Speaker 8: it so I can get a better quarterback. And we're done.
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Speaker 8: And now schools like Colorado are falling off, and they're
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Speaker 8: three and nine and three and ten again because their
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Speaker 8: donors aren't stepping up anymore. So now Colorado's having a
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Speaker 8: reckoning of.
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Speaker 5: Well, what are we gonna do. Our donors aren't paying
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Speaker 5: for this anymore.
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Speaker 8: That reckoning's coming to every other school that doesn't want
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Speaker 8: to have that at least has some donors who have
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Speaker 8: other things to do. Seattle has donors who have other
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Speaker 8: things to do. Birmingham, Alabama, or Baton Rouge Louisiana not
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Speaker 8: so much. So that's really what it's coming down to
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Speaker 8: is when these people's money goes somewhere else, this is
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Speaker 8: going to come crashing down. But if the schools have
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Speaker 8: donors who don't have money to go anywhere else, like
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Speaker 8: Baton Rouge in Gainesville, in Birmingham and Tuscaloosa, then it'll
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Speaker 8: keep going, and then that it'll be the only ones
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Speaker 8: left to be play in this silly game. It's gross,
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Speaker 8: it's sick. It's not what Chris Peterson nailed it when
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Speaker 8: he was the coach at Washington. We're supposed to be
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Speaker 8: developing young men into being functioning adults and fathers and leaders.
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Speaker 8: What are we teaching nineteen year old kids? Go get
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Speaker 8: the most money you can get, why you can get it.
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Speaker 8: It's a pretty sad situation at the NFL. Isn't actually
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Speaker 8: a more moral and more encompassed an organization in college football.
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Speaker 8: That's gross, because there's a ton of things wrong with
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Speaker 8: the NFL as far as money goes.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's a dark little cigarette. I think it
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Speaker 6: always has been, you know, I really do. I think
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Speaker 6: the NFL has always been a cleaner and less corrupt
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Speaker 6: than college athletics. Greg Mella is with us our Seahawks insider,
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Speaker 6: joining us here on Chuck and Buck. Of course, it's
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Speaker 6: been the main topic reacting to the demand Williams junior story.
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Speaker 6: We'll have Softy on to talk about it at seven thirty.
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Speaker 1: We do have are he'll be measured again.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, he'll be calm. He'll be real calm about it,
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Speaker 6: really impartial. Yeah, so we'll chat with him at seven thirty.
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Speaker 6: We should talk a little Seahawks. I mean, we don't
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Speaker 6: play again for another week and a half, so.
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Speaker 1: It's not like we're hasty about it.
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Speaker 6: But let me ask you what Clinton Kobiacs week has
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Speaker 6: been like over there at the facility with the Seahawks.
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Speaker 8: Well, now he's fielding four and I would assume the
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Speaker 8: Baltimore Ravens will make five teams that are requesting to
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Speaker 8: talk to him for head coaching jobs. So we can
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Speaker 8: throw out whether teams see him as a viable head
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Speaker 8: coaching candida answer to that is yes, he is this
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Speaker 8: year's Ben Johnson. Johnson, of course this Timelinelast year was
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Speaker 8: the offensive coordinator for the number one seed in the NFC,
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Speaker 8: and he was the darling new candidate of the Chicago
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Speaker 8: Bears eventually picked him, and now the Bears are in
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Speaker 8: the playoffs and this year Clint Kubiak is Ben Johnson.
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Speaker 8: He's one of the few offensive minds with NFL experience
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Speaker 8: in play calling that is available. It's a defensive minded
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Speaker 8: coaching cycle. Now John Harbor getting fired by the Ravens,
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Speaker 8: which is ridiculous, by the way, John Harbor is leader
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Speaker 8: of men type of guy. But the Ravens fire him,
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Speaker 8: and so now another defensive minded coaches on the market, Kevin.
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Speaker 5: Soopanski go on.
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Speaker 8: But the Kubiak has positioned himself as the alternative and
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Speaker 8: the best one. So now he's got potentially five suitor
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Speaker 8: potential suitors. The way this works the NFL rules is
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Speaker 8: the team if your candidate is on a top seed,
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Speaker 8: you can talk to him during the bye week of
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Speaker 8: the wildcard playoffs, which is right now. That window to
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Speaker 8: talk to him began three days after their team's final game,
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Speaker 8: which for the Seahawks was Tuesday because they played Saturday,
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Speaker 8: so teams could start talking to Kubak yesterday, and then
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Speaker 8: the Seahawks for a practical purpose, the Seahawks are meeting,
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Speaker 8: practicing film study, talking to players the coaches today and tomorrow,
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Speaker 8: and then they're.
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Speaker 5: Off Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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Speaker 8: So I'd expect the interviews with Kubiak to happen Friday, Saturday,
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Speaker 8: and Sunday when he's not actually doing his day job.
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Speaker 8: And then you can't talk to Kubak again until if
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Speaker 8: the Seahawks win the Division champion they're the divisional round game,
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Speaker 8: he won't be able to talk to Kubak until the
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Speaker 8: day after the NFC title game, which is January twenty sixth,
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Speaker 8: the week or the Super Bowl Bye week. Win or lose,
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Speaker 8: the Seahawks would he would become available to talk If
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Speaker 8: they lose in the division round, then they can talk
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Speaker 8: to him again.
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Speaker 5: January nineteenth.
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Speaker 3: Gee, I mean, I'm I'm all about people having lives
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Speaker 3: outside of their jobs. I mean, you can only do
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Speaker 3: so much and before it becomes you know, almost counterproductive.
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Speaker 1: As far as the quoit of your life goes.
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Speaker 3: But that said, I think that you know, the idea
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Speaker 3: of preparing for your next game is highly important. I
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Speaker 3: mean we can go all the way to the college stuff,
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Speaker 3: I mean Old Miss with the lane Kiff and exodus
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Speaker 3: and then taking the coaches, but.
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Speaker 1: Some can come back.
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Speaker 3: I mean Oregon, both coordinators have taken head coaching jobs.
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Speaker 3: If you think that there isn't some sort of their
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Speaker 3: preparation that gets taken away because they're also trying to
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Speaker 3: wrap their head around, oh, I have this other job
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Speaker 3: or this other job opportunity. In Kubiak's situation, is there
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Speaker 3: any part of where these two things can get in
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Speaker 3: the way of one another. I mean, he's going to
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Speaker 3: he didn't have a job anywhere else and so he's
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Speaker 3: not going to be working on that job. But if
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Speaker 3: he's working to get a job, is there any way
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Speaker 3: that that could be taken away from his preparation for
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Speaker 3: whoever they're going to be facing when they do get
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Speaker 3: to play.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and think about any of the times you've applied
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Speaker 8: for any job in your life, whether he's working at
15:50
Speaker 8: seven to eleven or was KGr or any job you've
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Speaker 8: ever had. Anybody out there listening, you prepare for that interview, right,
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Speaker 8: You do a little bit of this, at least a
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Speaker 8: modicum of investigating the job, the company, the position, know
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Speaker 8: a little bit about him so you could talk intelligently. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: that takes time, and he's got to do that. These
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Speaker 8: interviews for head coaches especially, they come in and the
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Speaker 8: team say, Okay, what would you do with our roster?
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Speaker 8: How would you coach it in? What direction would you
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Speaker 8: put them in? Well, you got to know about their roster.
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Speaker 8: You got to know about their culture, You got to
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Speaker 8: know about their GM, you got to know about their owner.
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Speaker 8: You got to know about how they play and how
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Speaker 8: they played up to this point. You gotta have an
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Speaker 8: opinion about why it's not working and why they fired
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Speaker 8: their previous coach and how you're.
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Speaker 5: Going to be different.
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Speaker 8: You can't just wing that, especially a guy who's trying
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Speaker 8: to be a first time head coach.
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Speaker 5: You got to do a little bit of research.
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Speaker 8: You got to actually try, or else the interview will
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Speaker 8: be played flop of where it gets around this very
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Speaker 8: small league as far as hiring goes, and they'll say, well,
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Speaker 8: Kubak wasn't prepared at all, So yes, absolutely, which is
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Speaker 8: why at least the NFL tried to put some kind
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Speaker 8: of guard rails in place and say, well, you can't
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Speaker 8: do it during a game week. We'll let you do
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Speaker 8: it during a bye week, but we're not go.
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Speaker 5: Let you do it during game week.
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Speaker 8: What makes it not intrusive this week is because of
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Speaker 8: McDonald's schedule with the team. As I mentioned, they're only
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Speaker 8: doing football Wednesday and Thursday and the rest of the
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Speaker 8: time they're off. Now the coaches are preparing four different
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Speaker 8: possible preliminary game plans at one time, depending on who
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Speaker 8: they're going to play, but the players will be off,
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Speaker 8: so at least Kubiak will have some more time starting Friday,
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Speaker 8: Saturday Sunday, which is why I think they can interview them.
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Speaker 8: But yes, to answer your question, he should be and
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Speaker 8: the NFL intends for him to be completely left alone
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Speaker 8: by this process beginning Sunday night into Monday, when the
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Speaker 8: game week begins for next week.
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Speaker 6: Greg Bell is whether so Seahawks Insider, and it's as
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Speaker 6: if it's as if you're like reading my thoughts because
17:48
Speaker 6: I just can't stop staring at my phone hoping seven
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Speaker 1: That I can get out of this situation here.
17:55
Speaker 3: I mean, well, you'd make a nasty slurpea.
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Speaker 5: I bet you make a suicide squirpey where you put
18:02
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Speaker 3: Right about that. The other day, somebody else called it
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Speaker 6: Midwest guy, Greg Bell. Yeah, we call him suicides in
18:12
Speaker 6: the Midwest graveyards.
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Speaker 8: We also, yeah, yeah, maybe, we also called chip chop ham.
18:18
Speaker 5: And we also called.
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Speaker 1: What do you call soda in Ohio? Was it because
18:24
Speaker 1: you do pop? Okay, yeah, okay.
18:27
Speaker 5: Pop pops. It's not quite universal.
18:30
Speaker 1: Called it like coat, like a coke? Yeah, do that.
18:34
Speaker 6: We called it soda, and then my grandma called it
18:37
Speaker 6: sody or so yeah, and then yeah, so just that
18:42
Speaker 6: is geographical, no quese regional. All right, Greg, thank you, sir.
18:46
Speaker 6: We will talk more tomorrow round table.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Notice.
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Speaker 6: Coming up next, David Softy Maler to holler about demand
19:26
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19:31
Speaker 6: Just a bunch of bad bye week jokes, always long,
19:33
Speaker 6: that's what we're supposed to do.
19:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun, been having a lot.
19:36
Speaker 6: Of good time do that, and yet here we got
19:40
Speaker 6: this monster story that pops up that makes a lot
19:43
Speaker 6: of UDUB fans, of not all of them very angry.
19:46
Speaker 6: Joining us now on the program is pretty much the
19:48
Speaker 6: face of Washington football, and that is David Softy Maller,
19:52
Speaker 6: our own softie, who joins us here on the program
19:55
Speaker 6: to give us the latest on demand Williams Junior this
19:58
Speaker 6: decision last night, and of course there's his reaction to it.
20:02
Speaker 6: How did this hit you yesterday, Bud?
20:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty shock man. I mean, guys, let's be honest.
20:09
Speaker 2: When you read a story one day about a player
20:12
Speaker 2: re signing an nil revenue share agreement with a college
20:16
Speaker 2: football team one day, you don't expect to read the
20:20
Speaker 2: next day that he's leaving the program, right, I mean
20:22
Speaker 2: that's not you know how these things go. I mean,
20:26
Speaker 2: guy announces he's coming back, and the next story is
20:28
Speaker 2: going to be he's helping Jed Fish recruit better players
20:31
Speaker 2: to make the football team around him better, not that
20:34
Speaker 2: he's leaving town. So this is completely backwards. Obviously, nobody
20:38
Speaker 2: saw this coming. And I'm talking to people last night
20:41
Speaker 2: that are supposedly close to the mont Williams that should
20:45
Speaker 2: be in the know about what's happening with de mont Williams,
20:48
Speaker 2: that have no idea what's going on with the mont Williams.
20:51
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were blindsided by this,
20:54
Speaker 2: including people that represent him. By the way, this Sally's
20:59
Speaker 2: like something that was done behind the scenes with the family.
21:03
Speaker 2: I don't even know, honestly, what kind of role his
21:05
Speaker 2: agent played in this whole transaction here with LSU or
21:10
Speaker 2: any other program, or the decision to put him in
21:13
Speaker 2: the portal. Jetfish obviously never saw this coming. The guy
21:16
Speaker 2: just agreed to a new deal with a star quarterback
21:20
Speaker 2: on Friday for upwards of five million dollars and you know,
21:23
Speaker 2: revenue share and third party nil money with the folks
21:27
Speaker 2: over at dogs unleashed. So this took everybody by surprise.
21:31
Speaker 2: It's horrible timing for Washington. They got to go out
21:34
Speaker 2: now and scramble and either a find an available transferred
21:38
Speaker 2: portal quarterback like a Sam Levitt or a Dilan Raiolo
21:42
Speaker 2: or a DJ Lagway or whoever they want, or guys,
21:46
Speaker 2: they have to go do the same thing to somebody
21:48
Speaker 2: else and go convince a kid who's under contract with
21:52
Speaker 2: a different team to leave that school and then deal
21:54
Speaker 2: with the legal fallout and potentially pay somebody's lawsuit off
21:59
Speaker 2: to get them away from the current situation they're in.
22:02
Speaker 2: So this is an example of five five hundred and
22:05
Speaker 2: twenty of why college football needs a czar, why it
22:09
Speaker 2: needs oversight, why it needs the commissioner. Can you imagine
22:12
Speaker 2: in the NFL the Seahawks announcing one day they've signed
22:15
Speaker 2: the player. Three days later, the guy announces he's taken
22:18
Speaker 2: off to go play for the Falcons, and the Seahawks
22:20
Speaker 2: to their pants off, and there's nothing they can do
22:23
Speaker 2: to keep the player from walking, but they can recoup
22:25
Speaker 2: a big bag of money. I mean, this is as nine.
22:28
Speaker 2: It's total chaos. It's insane and it's got to stop.
22:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, man, It's it's ugly for sure.
22:35
Speaker 3: And yet maybe this is the straw that breaks the
22:36
Speaker 3: camel's back and forces him to put some sort of
22:39
Speaker 3: guardrail besides the nerf guardrails that they have up at
22:42
Speaker 3: this point. I mean, I would hope that just out
22:45
Speaker 3: of the integrity, and even though there's no integrity really
22:48
Speaker 3: in college sports right now, I would hope that they
22:51
Speaker 3: don't go out and want to play that game of
22:53
Speaker 3: taking somebody that's already under contract. And there's what four
22:56
Speaker 3: thousand plus guys in the in the transferporter, so there's
22:59
Speaker 3: some guys that legitimately out there.
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Speaker 5: Way more than that, way more than that.
23:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's guys out there to be had,
23:06
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to go play that game of
23:08
Speaker 3: paying somebody to get one of the big dogs in here.
23:12
Speaker 3: And so I mean, looking ahead, I don't necessarily know
23:17
Speaker 3: if there is anybody in particular, but is this just
23:19
Speaker 3: one of those you gotta go fill that spot, and
23:22
Speaker 3: you know, no money, no money, no amount of money
23:25
Speaker 3: is too much money to make sure that you get
23:27
Speaker 3: one of the good ones.
23:29
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just look, I don't know what Washington's dealing
23:32
Speaker 2: with financially compared to other schools like LSU. I know
23:35
Speaker 2: that LSU, for example. Let's just parse this out for
23:38
Speaker 2: a second here. What LSU has done is not only
23:42
Speaker 2: offered to increase DeMont William's salary for next year I
23:45
Speaker 2: would assume significantly, or he's not leaving Washington, and they've
23:49
Speaker 2: also found somebody to potentially take care of any damages
23:54
Speaker 2: that you dubb seeks in the Mont william is breaking
23:57
Speaker 2: his contract. I mean the Mon william is that his
23:59
Speaker 2: agent and his family they're not paying for that. That's
24:02
Speaker 2: somebody from a different team, whether a booster or coming
24:06
Speaker 2: out of their kitty, whatever they decide to do, somebody's
24:09
Speaker 2: gonna have to cover DeMont William's salary bucket and whatever
24:12
Speaker 2: damages you dubb goes after. And by the way, the
24:14
Speaker 2: damages that U dub goes after might be significant. I mean,
24:17
Speaker 2: you guys got to remember here, this is not just
24:19
Speaker 2: a Mon Williams and the opportunity loss with him as
24:24
Speaker 2: a player and a representative of the school next year.
24:27
Speaker 2: But this is gonna cost the Huskies a lot of money.
24:29
Speaker 2: There are season ticket holders that are pissed off about
24:33
Speaker 2: this that are threatening to pull back money, stop making
24:36
Speaker 2: donations to Washington. This will have a ripple effect on
24:40
Speaker 2: how much people want to invest in the program because
24:44
Speaker 2: they're sick and tired. They're irritated beyond belief. You saw
24:46
Speaker 2: the story that came out yesterday. I have a prominent
24:49
Speaker 2: Colorado booster who said, you know, I'm done. I'm done
24:52
Speaker 2: giving money to players who have no loyalty to programs whatsoever.
24:55
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing from people last night. I'm hearing from
24:58
Speaker 2: people this morning that are long time hush season ticket
25:00
Speaker 2: holders that are pull them out. You know, why would
25:03
Speaker 2: they invest in a kid when the kid's gonna go
25:05
Speaker 2: develop himself at Washington for a year or two, and
25:09
Speaker 2: then the fruits of that development will be felt by
25:12
Speaker 2: a different program like LSU for DeMont Williams in year
25:16
Speaker 2: number three. This might force people to reconsider how and
25:20
Speaker 2: when and why they donate. You know, possibly, instead of
25:23
Speaker 2: donating Bucky to help out high school players, they may
25:26
Speaker 2: save all their money for the transfer portal to get
25:30
Speaker 2: kids that'll be here for a year as mercenaries that
25:33
Speaker 2: are already developed and can make an instant impact on
25:36
Speaker 2: the program. So I'm just really kind of curious and
25:39
Speaker 2: nervous in some ways at the same time to see
25:41
Speaker 2: how this plays out with the donors. And then, by
25:43
Speaker 2: the way, Chuck, I know I'm.
25:44
Speaker 1: Rambling here for a second rate.
25:46
Speaker 2: The other problem with last night is that this clown
25:49
Speaker 2: goes out and announces this during the memorial service for
25:52
Speaker 2: Mia Hammond over at U dub And don't you think
25:55
Speaker 2: for one second this bum did not know that that
25:57
Speaker 2: was happening at Washington. The football team was there in
26:01
Speaker 2: the arena, Jetfish was there, assistant coaches were there. There
26:06
Speaker 2: was multiple communications that were sent out during the day
26:10
Speaker 2: reminding players of this event that was happening last night.
26:13
Speaker 2: And this scumbag decides last night to put this methoge
26:17
Speaker 2: out on Instagram, making it all about him that he's
26:21
Speaker 2: entering the transfer portal during me a Hambridge memorial service
26:25
Speaker 2: last night. Just a colossal prick and a complete pr
26:29
Speaker 2: disaster by him and his representatives.
26:32
Speaker 1: All right, man, well, we know you've got a very
26:34
Speaker 1: busy day.
26:36
Speaker 6: Thanks for coming on with us, Sharon, what you know,
26:38
Speaker 6: we appreciate it and can't wait to listen at three
26:40
Speaker 6: o'clock today.
26:42
Speaker 2: All right, man, good stuff, and look forward to hassleback today.
26:45
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, eight o'clock, eight o'clock.
26:47
Speaker 6: All right, there is Sophie joining us here this morning,
26:51
Speaker 6: of course, obviously emotionally charged and also professionally challenged to
26:57
Speaker 6: try to get to the bottom of this as well,
27:00
Speaker 6: and he does that as well as anybody, so we
27:02
Speaker 6: appreciate him popping on. We'll of course talk more about
27:05
Speaker 6: the Demand Williams junior situation. And yes, we will have
27:08
Speaker 6: Matt Hasselback on. He's joined the team for the playoffs.
27:11
Speaker 6: He's our Ryan Heay if you will for the national
27:13
Speaker 6: you know what we did for the Mariners postseason run,
27:16
Speaker 6: but he's going to do it for the Seahawks with
27:19
Speaker 6: us every Wednesday at eight o'clock and we'll get to
27:21
Speaker 6: chat with him for the first time this morning at eight,
27:24
Speaker 6: so we'll be doing that on the program. But coming
27:26
Speaker 6: up next something that we do every Wednesday, and I
27:29
Speaker 6: will stay on this college football topic. It's Reckless at
27:32
Speaker 6: Breakfast on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
27:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.
27:36
Speaker 5: I like it.
27:37
Speaker 6: So Matt Hasselbeck will join us at eight o'clock, looking
27:40
Speaker 6: forward to hearing his thoughts on the twenty twenty five,
27:43
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six Seahawks as they get ready for the postseason.
27:46
Speaker 1: Of course we're on a buy really yeah, that's a very.
27:48
Speaker 6: Benefit benefit given to the best teams on the best season,
27:52
Speaker 6: the Seahawks, the Seahawks. So anyway, we'll chat with Matt
27:56
Speaker 6: Hasselbeck coming up at eight o'clock.
27:58
Speaker 1: It's great that it's at eight o'clock. It is that
28:02
Speaker 1: does work I did there. We'll tell them we did
28:04
Speaker 1: that just because celebrate him. It's time to get a
28:07
Speaker 1: little reckless at breakfast though.
28:08
Speaker 6: We do this every Wednesday, and I wasn't expecting this
28:12
Speaker 6: to be our main topic today, but Demand Williams had
28:15
Speaker 6: a mind of his own. So the state of college
28:18
Speaker 6: football certainly is a topic that I've discussed a lot
28:22
Speaker 6: with Reckless at Breakfast and kind of go through the
28:24
Speaker 6: chain of events. I've been talking about a tournament ever
28:28
Speaker 6: since I got into this business, so I certainly have
28:32
Speaker 6: treated the college football tournament as a reckless at Breakfast
28:36
Speaker 6: topic numerous times. I've also talked about bigger conferences on
28:41
Speaker 6: their way before we had the bigger conferences, and so
28:44
Speaker 6: those were some Those were some reckless at Breakfast ideas
28:47
Speaker 6: in the past. But the one that I got the
28:49
Speaker 6: most you're out of your mind response to on Reckless
28:53
Speaker 6: at Breakfast was that college football will someday become professional football,
28:58
Speaker 6: and that's also happening right before our eyes as well.
29:03
Speaker 1: And I also said.
29:05
Speaker 6: At one point that they won't be students anymore, they
29:08
Speaker 6: will become employees of the university, and I also think
29:12
Speaker 6: that's exactly where we're heading as well. So those are
29:15
Speaker 6: just just a little bit of the past with Reckless
29:19
Speaker 6: at Breakfast, some things that yeah, seemed reckless at the time,
29:23
Speaker 6: that one particularly reckless, and yet those are all coming
29:26
Speaker 6: true before our eyes. Here's another thing that I did
29:31
Speaker 6: state at one point in the past that I'll remind
29:33
Speaker 6: you of that I think the NFL is sitting there
29:36
Speaker 6: like vultures, just waiting for college football to get to
29:40
Speaker 6: the point where it's about ready to not be able
29:44
Speaker 6: to get all that's pooped together, and it's just going
29:47
Speaker 6: to swoop in.
29:47
Speaker 1: It's a billion dollar industry.
29:49
Speaker 6: Best football players in the world between ages eighteen and
29:53
Speaker 6: twenty two is a billion dollar industry, and I think
29:56
Speaker 6: the NFL is just sitting that right now. It's a
29:58
Speaker 6: free feeder program for them, Like, hey, as long as
30:00
Speaker 6: that functions properly, you know, we don't have to invest
30:03
Speaker 6: money in the development of these kids, most of them
30:07
Speaker 6: which fail. We're perfectly fine with it. But it's a
30:11
Speaker 6: billion dollar industry and I'm telling you they're waiting, and
30:14
Speaker 6: a lot of the things that are being done in
30:16
Speaker 6: college football, including kind of shrinking the haves versus the
30:20
Speaker 6: have nots, is really leading and the bigger conferences where
30:25
Speaker 6: the SEC and the Big Ten are just bigger and
30:28
Speaker 6: better than everybody else.
30:30
Speaker 1: It's getting to the point where, if.
30:32
Speaker 6: It becomes tightly packaged enough, I think the National Football
30:37
Speaker 6: League will come in here and swoop in and just
30:39
Speaker 6: kind of take over the entire product.
30:42
Speaker 1: I do.
30:43
Speaker 6: They'll keep the brands, the best brands out there, but
30:46
Speaker 6: this not only will act like professional football in the future,
30:50
Speaker 6: this will be run by the NFL.
30:52
Speaker 1: I've used that.
30:53
Speaker 6: As a reckless at breakfast in the past, and I
30:55
Speaker 6: still think that that's a possibility. Not that it will happen,
30:58
Speaker 6: but it's a possibility. But yesterday's story certainly hammers this
31:02
Speaker 6: point home. You do have an opportunity to save it.
31:06
Speaker 6: Believe it or not, all this chaos of the last
31:08
Speaker 6: three years, we are moving in the right direction to
31:10
Speaker 6: save college football.
31:12
Speaker 1: But if you think it.
31:14
Speaker 6: Can be done without protecting against things like last night
31:18
Speaker 6: with Demond Williams Junior, or protecting against coaches who can
31:22
Speaker 6: just leave at the drop of a hat for fourteen
31:26
Speaker 6: dollars more at another program, or any or any of
31:31
Speaker 6: the other nonsense that is taking place right now, you
31:35
Speaker 6: better get on top of this. If you want college
31:38
Speaker 6: football to remain as an as it's been. It's beautiful
31:43
Speaker 6: history and it's beautiful current interest that it has in
31:47
Speaker 6: it right now, then don't sit here college football like
31:51
Speaker 6: you've done with so many other things in the past. Oh,
31:54
Speaker 6: we're getting all this attention.
31:56
Speaker 1: Who cares? Who cares? Who cares?
31:58
Speaker 6: If people are angry watching, we're still getting attention. No,
32:02
Speaker 6: you need to get your arms around this and not
32:05
Speaker 6: wait until it's charred ruins that the NFL comes and
32:09
Speaker 6: just sweeps up and takes over. And once you've done
32:13
Speaker 6: all the hard work for them to whittle it down
32:16
Speaker 6: to only thirty two relevant programs in all of college football,
32:20
Speaker 6: and they're the only ones that have the rules in
32:23
Speaker 6: place that can actually govern football at this large of
32:26
Speaker 6: a scale. So college football has the opportunity to clean
32:30
Speaker 6: up its own mess. There are so many phenomenal things
32:33
Speaker 6: to preserve. I don't think you're that far away. Just
32:37
Speaker 6: do the obvious, reasonable, logical things, and do it now
32:43
Speaker 6: before it does get to a point where the only
32:46
Speaker 6: thing that can save it is Roger Goodell and NFL money.
32:50
Speaker 5: Yeah.
32:51
Speaker 3: I mean, I hope it doesn't get to that, just
32:53
Speaker 3: because I do like it feeling separate, and I suppose
32:57
Speaker 3: I still would. It would feel like the minor nues
32:59
Speaker 3: versus the big leagues, I guess, but it already is.
33:02
Speaker 3: And yet it's kind of run differently, and it's supposed
33:06
Speaker 3: to be. That's the romantic side of my childhood that
33:09
Speaker 3: I would like to keep it that way, although it's
33:11
Speaker 3: now moving in the direction of it is professional sports.
33:14
Speaker 3: Even if it's not being run by a professional organization
33:17
Speaker 3: or even being run period. It just kind of let
33:20
Speaker 3: run a muck. I don't think I'm not going to
33:24
Speaker 3: sit here and think that I'm not going to be
33:26
Speaker 3: naive enough to think that it's just really easy to
33:29
Speaker 3: solve this issue. But I will say there is a
33:32
Speaker 3: few things that you could do that would most certainly
33:36
Speaker 3: curb some of it. I mean, to me, it's the
33:39
Speaker 3: idea of being able to jump ship every year. Just
33:41
Speaker 3: that shouldn't be the case. Now, how would you do
33:44
Speaker 3: that if you want to If you are a player
33:47
Speaker 3: and you are going to go to said program, and
33:50
Speaker 3: you're like, I think I'm better than that. I think
33:53
Speaker 3: that I can play at a higher level than that.
33:55
Speaker 3: I think I could eventually play at some SEC school
33:58
Speaker 3: or some Big ten school and increase my visibility to
34:03
Speaker 3: where I can go on and maybe play in the NFL.
34:06
Speaker 3: And yet I had to start it incarnate word then
34:09
Speaker 3: sign a one year contract. But it's a one year
34:11
Speaker 3: contract and when you sign it, it's binding for that year.
34:14
Speaker 3: Here's the money you make, and that's it. Now if
34:17
Speaker 3: you want to get It's like in the NFL, where
34:21
Speaker 3: the beauty of signing a five year contract is that
34:24
Speaker 3: you know you're getting money for five years. Now, it's
34:27
Speaker 3: what's guaranteed and what isn't guaranteed. That's where the NFL
34:30
Speaker 3: is still the hammer and the players are the nail
34:33
Speaker 3: where they can they can negotiate the contract where it's like,
34:36
Speaker 3: we think you're gonna be good enough for five years,
34:38
Speaker 3: but we're gonna have two voidable years at the end
34:40
Speaker 3: of that well, you still get three years where you
34:42
Speaker 3: can't you're not gonna go anywhere, and they can't get
34:45
Speaker 3: rid of you without paying you for at least those
34:47
Speaker 3: three years. That to me seems like, just make some
34:50
Speaker 3: contracts that are more ironclad, and do you do it
34:53
Speaker 3: for coaches as well. Coaches, if you want a five
34:55
Speaker 3: year contract that's one hundred million dollars or whatever, I
34:58
Speaker 3: guess that's more than what they're making. But if you
35:00
Speaker 3: I want that big money, then you're obligated to coach
35:03
Speaker 3: that out unless we get rid of you, which then
35:05
Speaker 3: we would owe you. We would have to pay you
35:07
Speaker 3: while we're bringing in a new quarterback or a new
35:10
Speaker 3: coach if you've been coming up short of what we
35:12
Speaker 3: thought the expectations were.
35:13
Speaker 6: Well, the reason I say it's easy is because what
35:18
Speaker 6: needs to happen is obvious.
35:20
Speaker 1: How difficult it is, I'll leave that to.
35:21
Speaker 6: The lawyers in terms of creating the right kind of
35:25
Speaker 6: contractual information and the type of rule book that is
35:29
Speaker 6: required to make this legally binding. But everybody, all college
35:34
Speaker 6: football coaches, players, fans, sports talk show hosts, know what
35:38
Speaker 6: needs to happen. So from that standpoint, I think that's
35:41
Speaker 6: a really good jumping off point yeah, all right, Matt
35:44
Speaker 6: Hasselbeck's going to join us next. Sports Radio ninety three
35:47
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