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138: These Friends of Mine · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: He didn't even fit, really. She was just fucking spooky.
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  Speaker 1: She was great. And then, what was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was the Girl Scouts were like, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: were asking about her lemonade. Was it fresh squeezed lemonade?
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  Speaker 2: Was it from real lemons? And she's like, yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll trade you for our Girl Scout cookies.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, are they made from real Girl Scouts? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people get really creeped out when I ask that question.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to show you a little maneuver that
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  Speaker 5: my mother taught me in junior high.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the bend and snap.
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  Speaker 2: Way down among Brazilians, coffee beans grow by the billions.
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  Speaker 1: So they've got to find those.
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  Speaker 6: Extra cups to fill.
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  Speaker 7: They got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Marlena.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Fred. I'm Greg. And we're back with another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Caffeinated Movie Geek. Cappuccino on my butt. I
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  Speaker 1: still drink coffee. The last fucking thing you need is
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  Speaker 1: another cup of coffee. It's time for The Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 1: We're coming to you live from, well, via digital recording
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  Speaker 1: from Nancy's Bagel Grounds. And we'll get together, have coffee,
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  Speaker 1: as we are right now, and talk movies. So, Marlena,
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  Speaker 1: I ask you, since you're back and we don't have
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  Speaker 1: to hand it off to anyone else this time, what
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  Speaker 1: blend of... Go ahead, Fred. Nothing. Marlena, I ask you,
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  Speaker 1: what blend of coffee are we drinking this week?
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  Speaker 8: Thundermuck.
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  Speaker 1: The ever-popular Thundermuck. Wouldn't you have liked to have heard
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  Speaker 1: what I would have made out of that? I think
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  Speaker 1: we've heard it before, actually. Well, while we're still on
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  Speaker 1: the coffee kick here, I mentioned this, I believe, the
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  Speaker 1: last time we were here, but it is now available
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  Speaker 1: up and running. This is our official Caffeinated Movie Geek mug.
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  Speaker 1: Check that out. And we're not drinking out of those.
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  Speaker 1: We're saving those because you guys at home are ordering them.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting on your internets right now and placing your order.
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  Speaker 1: That's really nice. Are they handmade? They are each individually
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  Speaker 1: handmade heavy-duty ceramic and have our awesome and original artwork
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  Speaker 1: on them, mind you.
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  Speaker 8: Where did the artwork come from?
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  Speaker 1: A local artist here. Tazier, I think, is his name.
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  Speaker 1: It's really good looking. He's actually, yeah, he's really ridiculously talented.
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  Speaker 1: I would almost not want to use it. I have
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  Speaker 1: one at home, and it's sitting on my shelf. There
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  Speaker 1: you go. They're fine as collector's items, or you can
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  Speaker 1: make it a functional mug. It's up to you. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: so go Facebook us, email us, Twitter us, whatever the
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  Speaker 1: hell you want to do, and let us know you
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  Speaker 1: need one of those, because they are pretty awesome. And
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  Speaker 1: there are pictures on the website, and occasionally our Facebook page.
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  Speaker 1: I'll throw one up there, too. So check it out
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  Speaker 1: if you're interested.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I might buy one.
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  Speaker 8: I was just thinking that.
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  Speaker 1: Bust out the cat. That's right. Get us out of
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  Speaker 1: the hole. I've got to pay for some bagels, though.
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  Speaker 10: Lord.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wait. Fred spotted me this week.
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  Speaker 11: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So in an effort to keep this at a normal,
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  Speaker 1: somewhat acceptable level, I think we're going to break up
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  Speaker 1: our Geek Weeks into weeks. So I think Marlene and
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  Speaker 1: I have a weird tie-in when it's going to go
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  Speaker 1: for the next time around. So this week, Fred and Greg,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are going to do your geek activities.
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  Speaker 11: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Fred?
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  Speaker 10: Shall I?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. Rip a head off a chicken. I shall. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't really seen a whole lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I've been sort of focusing on, I've re-watched some movies
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  Speaker 2: and tried to.
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  Speaker 1: Corrupt the youth. That's always good, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there are like movies I want my kids
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  Speaker 2: to see. My boy's kind of been on a Coen
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  Speaker 2: Brothers thing lately. That's good. One night he was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what hasn't he seen? And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you haven't seen Barton Fink, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that's really one you want to watch tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, have you seen No Country for Old Men?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, I haven't.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, let's watch that. We watched that, and that
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  Speaker 2: was a blast. He's really pretty good at actors, too.
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  Speaker 2: Because we were out somewhere, and I saw a dog
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  Speaker 2: that looked exactly like this one actor. And he was
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  Speaker 2: the actor in Miller's Crossing, who is like the new boss.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, he's giving me the high hat. It's a
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  Speaker 1: question of ethics. It's that guy.
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  Speaker 2: And he was also on Homicide, and I couldn't remember
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  Speaker 2: his name. I kept calling him Carsetti. My boy was like,
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  Speaker 2: Carcetti was the mayor on the wire. That was the
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  Speaker 2: name of the mayor on the wire.
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  Speaker 1: But it was Crossetti. He was Detective Crossetti. He was
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  Speaker 1: the one who killed himself.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, so we watch No Country for Old Men,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess watching it the second time, the thing
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  Speaker 2: that really stuck with me was like one line when
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  Speaker 2: he goes to.
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  Speaker 2: What's his name's wife? And remember, he said, nobody's going
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  Speaker 2: to come for her mom. Of course, mom gets killed.
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  Speaker 2: And then, so his wife... Oh, one thing that's beautiful
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  Speaker 2: about that movie, I remember they said they wanted Josh
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  Speaker 2: Brolin because he was from that area of Texas.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted authenticity. And the woman playing his wife is Irish.
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  Speaker 1: I just love that. It's like.
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  Speaker 2: I just love that kind of like, we're all about,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be authentic, we're serious, but fuck it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing I like about them.
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  Speaker 2: But so he goes there, and she says something about, like,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't have any money, she didn't have money, she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have money to pay for her mom's funeral.
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  Speaker 1: And he says, I wouldn't worry about it. That's just
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  Speaker 1: so dark.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, the scene after the car wreck
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  Speaker 2: with the boy giving him the shirt.
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  Speaker 1: That's just one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that.
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  Speaker 2: Then I had this movie projector for a while this summer,
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  Speaker 2: but it was just always too hot.
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  Speaker 1: And I built a.
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  Speaker 2: Big screen in the backyard, and I got kids together.
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  Speaker 2: It was just too hot. But we had one good night.
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  Speaker 2: And we watched Planet of the Apes.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome. The original.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The real. It was the night they called off the
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  Speaker 1: first day of school.
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  Speaker 2: And all the kids were like, oh, yeah. And it's
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  Speaker 2: like party at my house, man. All these kids came over.
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  Speaker 2: We watched Planet of.
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  Speaker 1: The Apes, and it was awesome. I bet it was
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  Speaker 1: a blast.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did they get it? I kind of wonder how. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess technically I was like a generation removed almost.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm wondering how kids will see that. As
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  Speaker 1: the years go on. I think they were into it.
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  Speaker 1: They liked it. And, you know, it was pretty... It
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  Speaker 1: holds up in its way. It does. I mean, because
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  Speaker 1: it was well-written. Yeah, it really is kind of a
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  Speaker 1: neat movie. It's kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Funny, but in a good way. So, yeah, they actually
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  Speaker 2: watched it and got into it and liked it. One
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  Speaker 2: of them had seen the new one.
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  Speaker 1: Like the brand-new Rise of the Planet of the Apes?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a movie do a 180 in the
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  Speaker 1: public like that one. Like, everybody was so ready to
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  Speaker 1: hate that. Everybody was like, oh, those apes look terrible. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like a big cartoon. And, like, the day
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  Speaker 1: it came out, I heard nothing but, like, rave reviews. Like,
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  Speaker 1: every person I've heard is just like, wow, that was, like,
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  Speaker 1: the best movie of the summer. Like, what is that? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything do a turnaround like that. There
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  Speaker 1: has to be expectations. I get it. When you go
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  Speaker 1: in expecting something to be horrible.
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  Speaker 4: and everybody's automatically going to pan it, then it's much
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  Speaker 4: easier to like it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, maybe it is actually well put together,
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  Speaker 1: and that trailer just makes it look kind of dumb. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: could be.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it is, because, like, I remember when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid, my mom always said when she went
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  Speaker 2: to Paris and she saw the Mona Lisa, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was this big famous thing, and she sees it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just this little, little painting. She was surprised
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  Speaker 2: how small it was. And then so, then my sister...
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  Speaker 2: When she first went to Europe, she said, yeah, after
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  Speaker 2: hearing how small the Mona Lisa was all my life,
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  Speaker 2: it looked gigantic.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how big it was. It all balances
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  Speaker 1: out somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: I never really managed to focus through that last new
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  Speaker 2: Planet of the Apes.
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  Speaker 1: You mean the Tim Burton one?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the worst movies ever made.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 13: To me, it wasn't even a Planet of the Apes.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't even watch it. I really was unable to
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  Speaker 1: watch it.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just kind of like Planet of the
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  Speaker 2: guys that look kind of like Michael Jackson I don't.
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  Speaker 9: Know what's going on in this movie I don't hate
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  Speaker 9: it as much as everybody again I don't I don't
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  Speaker 9: I almost don't include it in Planet of the Apes
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  Speaker 9: at all like if I separate it and I just.
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  Speaker 1: Watch it as a science fiction kind of movie I
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  Speaker 1: and i pretend like it doesn't have marky mark in
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  Speaker 1: it right i mean that's part of the problem is
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  Speaker 1: you hand it over to him yeah but i mean
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  Speaker 1: tim tim roth is really good like ridiculously good roth
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  Speaker 1: is just really good yeah he never puts a badge
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  Speaker 1: he's really good so i mean and the general who
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: is the michael clark duncan clark duncan is really good
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  Speaker 1: at it so i mean you've got guys in in
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  Speaker 1: these makeup you know which again they did a good
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  Speaker 1: job on the makeup too so it's like It's a
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  Speaker 1: shame that that's going to waste in this plot because
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: the plot's kind of weird. I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many problems with it. I don't love it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was probably the jump the shark
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  Speaker 1: moment for Tim Burton, too. I mean, everything up until
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  Speaker 1: that point, he was still pretty solid. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: first one you went, huh, really? Is it the Helena
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Bonham Carter influence?
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  Speaker 14: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I've said that for years. I was like, you look
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  Speaker 1: at his career when he was still on his own,
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Marie, Helena comes in, that's the first movie he
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  Speaker 1: did with her, and that's the downfall right there. It's
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  Speaker 1: like everything since then has suffered considerably, in my opinion. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: With the exception of Big Fish, which is still pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: But most of the stuff since then has crashed. Or
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  Speaker 1: at least has so many issues it doesn't even feel
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  Speaker 1: like a Tim Burton movie anymore. But But yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I can watch that Planet of the Apes,
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  Speaker 1: but again, I almost separate it and don't even consider
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  Speaker 1: it anything to do with the old ones, because I
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  Speaker 1: love the original series. I used to watch those to
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  Speaker 1: death as a child.
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  Speaker 4: It tried to be too close to, like, 2001 or something.
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  Speaker 6: It was.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of the opposite for me. I don't know... No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it tried to live up to...
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying... It tried to.
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  Speaker 4: Be almost too avant-garde. I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 4: but it definitely misses its mark.
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  Speaker 1: I think it misses because what was so good about
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  Speaker 1: the original was it is kind of funny. They had
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  Speaker 1: that satire in it. It was built around the novel. Granted,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: it's pretty removed from it, but the basic story was
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  Speaker 1: sort of satire on our society and using this leap
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  Speaker 1: into the future to talk about our class systems and
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: talk about our self-destructive nature. And, you know, they really
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  Speaker 1: were kind of smart in the way they played this
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: stuff in. And the Tim Burton one is just a
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  Speaker 1: big dumb action movie. Like, you lose the classes. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they change the types of apes. There's no class system
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  Speaker 1: at all whatsoever anymore. And, like, they all just become
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  Speaker 1: random monkeys and we're fighting with them, you know? And
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of a big dumb action movie, which
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  Speaker 1: is fine, but that's fine as a separate story. To
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  Speaker 1: be part of the Planet of the Apes and to
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  Speaker 1: take all of that out seems like a crime to me.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny, because that reminds me of an interview I
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: heard with Tarantino, where he said a friend of his
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: went to see the new King Kong, Peter Jackson. When
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  Speaker 2: he got back, he said, did it have, like, the
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  Speaker 2: racial subtext?
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  Speaker 1: He said, no. He's like, well then, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: It's just a movie about a big ape.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that movie had something to it that
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  Speaker 2: was different, but, you know, There was something about the
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  Speaker 2: Planet of the Apes I couldn't connect to it. It's
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  Speaker 2: like maybe I was looking for something that wasn't there,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe if I watched it again, I could, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, see what it was trying to do. Lower your
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: expectations on the new ones. Maybe I just.
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  Speaker 2: Expected to connect with it like, you know, the old ones,
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  Speaker 2: and they were supposed to make something.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah, there was that class, social... It was all
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: commentary back in the day, where this one just became,
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: let's put guys in cool monkey makeup. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they did, but that's all they were trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you didn't have anything to say with it.
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  Speaker 4: See, I'm afraid now that I almost pull a Mona
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  Speaker 4: Lisa with this. I've heard so many people, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: so many people talk it up now. I'm afraid I'll
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  Speaker 4: go in with too high expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Which the rise of the planet. The rise of the planet, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then end up thinking it sucks. Yeah, I did
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  Speaker 1: that with the movie.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: American Beauty, which in a lot of ways has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of great things about it, but my expectation of
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  Speaker 2: it was just, I read a review of it, and
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: that review was like one of the best movies I've
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: ever seen. It's like, God, that review was so good.
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  Speaker 2: Then I see the movie, and it's like, oh, the
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: movie's just kind of more like what you'd expect. The
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: review was like crazy good.
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  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Like, I've never seen anything that good. You know, the
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: portrayal of dysfunction... seemed so groundbreaking to people in that.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: And to me, it was like, yeah. Yeah. To me,
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  Speaker 1: it was a formula movie for artsy people. It kind
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: of was.
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  Speaker 2: It was exactly the movie that they always make is
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  Speaker 2: that there's some sort of repressed community that had gone
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: back to like Cuckoo's Nest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was a repressed community and some sort of wild
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  Speaker 2: card character goes into it and causes somebody to change
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  Speaker 2: or go sane.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Babbitt's Feast, Dead Poets. That's the movie that
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: they make.
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  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of good things about it,
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  Speaker 2: but it.
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  Speaker 1: Was kind of smug.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Because it's like that voiceover from Beyond the Grave. Whenever
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: you're telling me something from Beyond the Grave, you better
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: really be dead.
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  Speaker 1: Or fuck you. Who do you think you are telling me?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: You're no Sunset Boulevard. Shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 11: Anyway.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: If you're not a zombie or at least undead, you've
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: got to have some sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of authority to tell me what to think about life.
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  Speaker 1: I did like him. Oh, he was great. He's good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, again, the performances are all good. When you
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: look at it now, it does seem a little more
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: formulaic than it probably got credit for at the time.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I can't stomach Ned Benning. I can't.
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  Speaker 15: I just.
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  Speaker 1: She's gross.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I know that that's a character she's playing, but I
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  Speaker 4: think she took to it far too easily.
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  Speaker 1: She's gross. She was better when she was younger. Did
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  Speaker 1: you ever see The Grifters? Oh, yeah. She's really good
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  Speaker 1: at that. She was still gross, though. Well, even in Bugsy.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: She's really good in Bugsy, too. And it was right
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  Speaker 1: around that when she became that. She started catching up
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  Speaker 1: with that age. And she sort of started to fit
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: that annoying role that she's playing in American Beauty. And, yeah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: everything from that point on, she just kind of feels
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: like that again. I don't know. Laura Birch, I liked
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: her a lot. Yeah, she's really, there's somebody who, it's
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: a shame. I mean, you look at, she was in
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: this big Oscar-nominated movie and sort of had made a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: name for herself as a young actress. Yeah. A few
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: years later, she was doing straight-to-DVD horror movies and stuff.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Completely removed her... Yeah. She was great. I don't know
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: if that was on purpose or just something weird happened
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in her life and messed up her career.
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: If you think about it, she was a child actor.
• 17:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: And really, the last roles that she played stopped as...
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: A teenager. I don't think she really could transition into
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: an adult.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Again, she didn't pull off being an adult. When I
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: saw her ten years after that, she still looked like
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: she did in American Beauty. It's like you can't cast
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: her as an adult, but at the same time, she's
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: not that hot teenage actress she was ten years ago.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: So I guess that does throw off your casting game
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: at that point. She could act, though. She was really
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: good in Ghost World. She's amazing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: So, you know, and then my boy also watched Reservoir Dogs.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I've been having a lot of kids over staying up
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: late because, you know, they're growing up, and it's like
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: the last days of that, and I just love it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Did that change his life? If he'd never seen it before?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, does that... It kind of did for us, yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: He really liked it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's... It's funny because he's like a math science guy,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and he's like really good with.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: But he's like... He's thinking he might want to write
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: movies or something.
• 18:09
  Speaker 14: He.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: He really takes it seriously. But yeah, all the other
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: guys fell asleep.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: He was up until like three or four, just watching
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the movie by himself.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. The first time I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: saw that, I wanted to put it back in and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: watch it again. Yeah, I know. It was that good.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I could go home and watch it tonight.
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: Tim Roth.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: It never loses its power on those scenes. They're always
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: so intense. He said his favorite part was the story. Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: When he's telling the story, that was just amazing.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: And then he tells it, and then he's telling part
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: of being in it, and tells it getting ready to
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: tell it, and then tells it that he's in it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: To me, that's good. For me, I think that's my
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: favorite Tarantino movie.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love Pulp Fiction, I love the others,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: but that one is just like a kick-ass movie.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But just think, I mean, writing that, In screenplay form.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And then also following through and editing it so that
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that all works as fluid. Oh, yeah. It's perfect the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: way he puts it together. It's a great movie. A
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: really great movie. So then I watched Insidious. It was
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I've seen versions of that
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: movie many times. I think it was one of those
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that people went in with lowered expectations and then came
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: out like, wow, that was really entertaining. Yeah. I think
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: everybody went in expecting it to kind of suck, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: it turned out it was all right. It was all right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: It was competent.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But then there's this other movie that I'm trying to
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: get people to watch, just particular people I know. It's
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: called Tomorrow. And it's an old Robert Duvall movie from
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: way back. And I think it won an Academy Award.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: But it was pretty far back. And it's based on
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a Faulkner short story. It's about this pregnant woman who
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: shows up.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: This squatters... and he.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Tries to nurse her back to health, and she has
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a baby, and the screenplay is by Horton Foote, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: it's just one of the best movies I've ever seen.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And so, like some friends of mine, I'm like, y'all,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: for my Christmas present this year, y'all just sit down
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and watch this movie.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you a recommendation. Yeah, I picked out a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: present for me. I'll slap a bow on top of it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a movie I was recommending, and then
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I'll have to see how that goes. If you haven't
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: seen it, I don't know why more people haven't heard
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: about it, but it's pretty, you know, to have Robert
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Duvall in it, but he plays this kind of inarticulate
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: country guy that he just doesn't hit a wrong note.
• 21:06
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: He is just exactly so right. And then there's a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: woman in it, and she's all right, but she's not
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: as crazy amazing as he is in it. It almost
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: sounds like he has a speech impediment, or he's just
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: so reluctant to talk.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And he's so.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: awkward just so painfully awkward but yeah so that uh
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that was uh sort of the the main point of
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: main points of my geek week i don't think uh
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: there may be something else i saw that i completely
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: forgot i was i've kind of been on my scottish
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: movie kick there's this one kid i recognized in the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: two scottish thrillers i've seen uh the disappearance of alice
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: creed and red road and it's like Who is that guy?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And it turns out he was cast when he was
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: a kid in a local movie called Sweet 16, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: it made him a huge star in Scotland. But then
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: after that, he went back and sort of studied the craft,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and now he's an actor that's, I guess, a big deal,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: but not really here.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Still kind of a working actor in the scene. He's
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a really good actor. He's really good.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: And I was starting to watch that one night, but then,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you know, because I live in like a Fellini-esque daycare center,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't get to really watch it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying to picture that right now. It's making
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: my brain hurt a little. Well, you've been there.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. I'll see if
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I have anything to say about it later.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: All right, are we moving into Greg? Okay.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: If you've all seen it, I avoided this for a
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: long time, and finally I subjected myself to it, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I think if you've seen it, you understand what subjecting
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: yourself to it is, and that's dog tooth.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I mixed that one up with
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: several others. This is the Greek maid.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: It's the family that lives in a compound, has raised children,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: three of them, all high-walled, high walls around the house.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: The father is the only one that leaves the compound.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: He works in a factory. And the parents just are
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: afraid to... It doesn't explain it. It just starts showing
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: you their lives. They are extremely controlling and protective of
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: their family and don't want.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Any outside influences whatsoever. So when they watch television, they
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: watch videos of themselves. When the kids have a question
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: about what is a bagel, oh, that's like a squirrel,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: but it has no tail.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: They'll just lie. They lie about everything. They control everything.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And the kids, because of this, they have games where
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: they They sit around and, oh, let's turn the faucet
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on as hot as it can go and see who
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: can hold their finger on it the longest. That's a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: fun game. This is like 20, 22, 23-year-old adults.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: They still act like kids that have been repressed for
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: their entire lives. They have a fear of cats. They
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: believe that cats will come in and kill them through
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: the walls. And one day the sun, I shouldn't tell
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: too much of the movie. My wife's family thinks something
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: They get on you and they take your breath.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Cats are pretty evil, truth be told. Well, basically, it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: what this outside influence.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Of the outside world starts to creep in.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You sure this isn't the village? This is the village,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: but just sick and twisted. What era is this? Like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is this modern day? Yeah, modern day. Even weirder than
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: modern day.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: And it is, like, when airplanes go across the sky,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: they tell the kids that sometimes they fall.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: And they'll, like, the mom will hide behind a bush
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and throw a plastic toy airplane into the yard, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the kids run and beat the shit out of each other,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and they get to keep.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: The toy airplane, thinking that this is a real thing
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: that falls from the sky. Not that there are people
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: in an airplane.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: That it's just a toy airplane up there.
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. That's weird. And it is.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: This is the most demented family you've ever.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Them's tall words. Okay. Outside of your family reunion. No, no, no, no.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I am laying down the gauntlet. Go home and stream Dogtooth.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And you may not want the kids in the room.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. It's disturbed. And if you've seen it,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: And again, it's subjecting yourself to see Dogtooth.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Nice. Now I've got to see it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: So, did you like the movie? I mean, it sounds bad,
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: but was it enjoyable?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: It's very well done. It is disturbingly awkward. That should
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: be on the poster right there. You want to wash afterwards.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of movies I've seen like that. And
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: yet you're afraid of water.
• 26:31
  Speaker 11: Right, right.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Water's just about it, and you think.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: You think, okay, at least I'm not doing that as
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: a parent.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's a boost for your ego. It is. I've had
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to do a little of that. But at the same time,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, am I doing this? Am I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: fucking up in this way? That Santa Claus thing really
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: messed those kids up.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: It's like every part of these kids' lives... Is Santa Claus.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Nice. That's almost the exact thing it is.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I hated that fat bastard. We never started that crap.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: We're jumping ahead into our Christmas special here. I'm glad
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: he's dead. He's dead? At my house he is.
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell him Santa isn't real. I told him
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: he's dead.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: He ain't coming back no more. Man, it got worse
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: every year. It got to be like Mission Impossible.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I had to go out and like stomp on an
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: apple out in the snow and like crawl it up like.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: A deer's been eating it. And then put out oats
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and crap.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And we had like one of those attic doors like
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: creaky stairs.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And that's where I had to put everything. which is huge,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and I have to, like, come down the stairs trying
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to be silent. And be quiet. And I'm up all
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: night trying to do this. What's wrong with you? Just
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: drug them. Oh, man.
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: It's horrible.
• 27:55
  Speaker 13: It's, like, super tense, and I have to go out,
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: and then we have to write a note now. Lynn
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: thinks it would be cute to write a note. So
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: I have horrible handwriting anyway.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And my kids are like so sharp, they'll remember if
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the handwriting is different one year.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, and the wrapping paper. Why would Santa be using
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: the same wrapping paper we have?
• 28:17
  Speaker 13: We have to have separate wrapping paper from Santa and us.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Listen, you little bastards. Quit thinking so much. So I'm up.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: You ask another question about Santa, you don't get shit.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: He ruins his balls. I'm up all night doing this crap.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, they wake up bright and early.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Let's have fun and open presents. I'm like, oh, fuck. Please.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: That's why Santa drinks. Don't ever do that with kids.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It's just not worth it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: I remember the hardest thing for my mom when I
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: was little. You know, it's like I'd wake up on
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: Christmas and I'd have all these presents from Santa. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: one year I was probably like four. I went up
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: to my mom and said, where's my present from you?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And I was pissed.
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, I yelled at her. I can't believe you
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: didn't get a Christmas present.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: What kind of mother are you? Now, it's like a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: big swindle.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: If your kids are bright, you have to be, like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: really on top of it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: It's like surrendering your ego fully. You know, it's like
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: you got all these great kids or great gifts for
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: your kids. You can't take credit for any of it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Well, and the other thing is you've got electronics that
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you get for your child, like a DS, and then
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: you get the insurance policy on it, and then they
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: break the DS, so you take it back, and they
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: see that your handwriting's on there and all your information.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Dad, this is a receipt for something
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that Santa gave us. Something's wrong here. Santa gave me
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: this receipt, and he bought the policy, because Santa thinks ahead.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: He works it out with us.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: And you can't tell the kid, be careful, that's expensive.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: No one's free, Santa made it. Damn those elves.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Santa, we have a payment plan worked out with him.
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: It's not free. We have to pay him.
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I think we started telling them that in my house. No,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it's a system. We have to come up with the money.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I don't even ever remember believing in Santa.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I remember distinctly that I didn't because I remember one
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: night my brother, my older brother.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Saying, we've got to go to bed sooner. Santa won't come.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah. It's just you and me here, dude. Really?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You're dashing your older brother's dreams.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I thought that I didn't say anything because
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like a rigmarole.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fine, Santa, whatever, give me stuff. I didn't buy it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I really didn't. I don't remember ever thinking Santa is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a real.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like this thing people did, but
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: then I remember my brother going, we've got.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: To go to bed because Santa won't come. And I'm like... Oh, no, really? Okay.
• 31:04
  Speaker 17: Whatever.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Actually, what happened was, and Fred blocked this out of
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: his memory, John Carpenter took Little Freddy when he was
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: two and said, listens, bitch, this thing ain't real. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: just ruined it for him right there.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It was my Russian babysitter. When she scarred you?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was written on her underwear.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You want to see Santa Claus? I'll show you Santa Claus.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: You want to see my scar? Santa gave it to me.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And suddenly she passed it on to you. You were
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: quickly scarred from that day forward.
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 31:42
  Speaker 18: Wow.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Are you sure she didn't say you want to be scarred?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I know this is a callback to an old episode.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But that was disturbing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: I don't even think I've heard this story.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Underwear said, here is no Santa Claus.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yes. There is no Santa. That's how all kids should
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: be told. Well, that's trading one thing for another. It
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: takes you immediately out of your childhood and thrusts you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: into adulthood. Somehow meeting the Fonz brought that memory back.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: It was a repressed memory. Yes, it was a repressed memory.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I met the Fonz, and it's like, oh, yeah. It
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: was Happy Days on television. Babysitter. No, it was actually
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: before Happy Days. I lived back then. Those were the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Happy Days. The nights with my babysitter were the Happy Days.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think there was a time before Happy Days. Yeah. BHD.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: I've had babysitters and been a babysitter before, and I've
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: never had anything that traumatic happen. Your parents just had
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: no discretion at all when it came to hiring a babysitter,
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: did they?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Well, actually, she wasn't even my babysitter anymore. She had been, like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: at some point.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: But it was for my sister because my parents didn't
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: trust my brother and I to take care of my
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: little sister.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Rightfully so. So they were still a babysitter.
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Although we would just wander off, and I just happened
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to come out of my room one day.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It was... She actually had a restraining order.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: That's the reason she wasn't his babysitter. Yeah, and she
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: was like this Russian girl, hippie. A gypsy. Type, yes.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: She was, I don't know. Now I'm just all fucked up,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I like to say. Well, we know that. Well, if
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you're all fucked up, go watch Dogtooth when you get home.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: It's that good. That'll set me right, huh? No, you'll
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: probably just continue the downward spiral. Yeah, directly throw you
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: into a pit of despair. But have fun with that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Actually, whenever anybody says something like that, I have to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: watch it. There was a guy, this was back in
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the VHS era, a guy I knew had this tape.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: A friend of his who worked for a news station
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: had saved all these horrible clips, and most of them
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: would never go on the air. One of them I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: actually recognized. But they were like clips of accidents, of shootings, disasters,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: just horrible, horrible stuff. And then some of them, God
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: knows where he found this stuff, were like just not
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: right kinds of.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Porn and stuff.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: They were all clipped together in this tape. And the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: guy gave it to him and said, if you can
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: watch this straight through, there's just something wrong with you.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And he said, I watched it three times.
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: And.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And I did too, and I transferred it to DVD,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but it's pretty rough. It was like this guy I
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: remember when I was a kid who said he was
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: innocent of this crime, and he shot himself on TV,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and I remembered that. I remember it because I remember,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think they showed all of it like it
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: is in this clip, but they did show him, and
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I thought, he's guilty. I can tell he's guilty because
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: he feels so innocent. But he really is guilty. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: then he shot himself. It's like, yeah. I thought I
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: was so insightful for that that I could tell he
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: was guilty by the way he claimed to be innocent.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: But who knows? Maybe he was innocent. Just pop up
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: some popcorn and watch Faces of Death.
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: Oh, God.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I remember when kids would bring that tape in and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: hand it around at school. It was such a big
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: deal at the time. Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: That was cool.
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: I remember my cousin Jason was like, They'd sneak and
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: watch that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Was that the end of the Geek Week? Wow. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: guess it could be. It took awfully long to talk
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: Craig only talked about one movie.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Have you anything else? I did re-watch Spaceballs. Awesome. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I was very disappointed. I had someone make a Spaceballs
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: reference this weekend. So I guess, yeah, I need to
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: go back and re-watch it, I guess, because it's been
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a while for me. The one part.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: That made me laugh was still Thea. When they're in
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: the desert and they're combing the desert.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite joke. The afro pit. We found shit.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: We found shit. I almost woke the family up. That
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: is so funny.
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: I'm sorry.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but most of it, it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: Just.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Just bad. And it's... They even give you that... And
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I know it's someone that loves... young Frankenstein. You know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: same director, same style of humor.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: But they just... Kind of, but... Well, they take so
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: long with the delivery of the jokes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And they wait and let you laugh or think you're laughing.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I guess. And it just.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: It was actually kind of sad to me, so.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Again, I just... Yeah, I brought that up on a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: recent episode, so I won't go into it again, but yeah,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that's what I said was... I think it's a distinct difference.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: That's another one of those kind of jump-the-shark moments for someone,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and I think that is when things sort of change
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: for Mel Brooks. Like, I think he was doing stuff
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: that was so innovative and so original when he was
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: doing Blazing Saddles and, you know, Young Frankenstein and even
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like History of the World. It's like, it's kind of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: different and original. And then you look at, Spaceballs just
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: feels like the Zucker movies. It just feels like we're
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: ripping off specific scenes of other stuff. Where it's like,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: even you look at, you know, Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: they're ripping off a genre. They're making fun of a genre.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: They're like, lampooning it, but they're not I mean, even
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: with Young Frankenstein, they're taking specific scenes, but they do
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it in such an original way that I think is
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: missing in Spaceballs, and I think by the time you
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: get to Dracula Dead and loving it, I mean, it
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: really is. It might as well be the Waynes Brothers movies, because.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: I didn't even realize Dracula Dead and loving it was.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he did, and it makes me sad, because, yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: he's a comic genius, and it's still hilarious when you
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: listen to him talk, but he's just... I think I'm
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: glad he doesn't direct much anymore, because he just started
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: making such terrible stuff. I will mention this. Let me watch.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: My wife and I, on our anniversary, watched with the
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: kids being taken care of by someone else.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: We tried to have a night away from the kids.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: A babysitter? Right, a babysitter. We watched... How well do
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you know this babysitter? His grandparents. Russian grandparents? I've been trying...
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Hippie grandparents?
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: John Carpenter?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to get her to watch The Orphanage
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: for a long time.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: That's a terrible movie to watch if you can't immediately
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: hug your children.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: So we watched that.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Which she really liked it, and I did as well.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: But I forgot how depressing it was.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I had it forgotten. And then we watched... The Lovely Bones.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: This is nice. Because we had it in from Netflix.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Quite a double feature.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: By the time we were done, we were so depressed.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: I was also depressed at how bad The Lovely Bones was.
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: It was terrible.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: That's what everybody says.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: It was hilarious, though. I loved the period feel to it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I like that, but it's like, who are you kidding? It's, again,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: that beyond the grave stuff.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I just never got.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: How seriously do you want me to take this? The
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: whole afterlife stuff was bad. It was just like pop
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: psychology version of some sort.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Of spiritual, I don't know, throw something together. People like it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: It's fun. It's rape and murder. They'll eat it up.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. know. There were some really good parts.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: If I had any.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: illusions that Marky Mark could act, all dispelled after that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: As if Planet of the Apes didn't do it for you.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: He's holding his wife and he's like, I don't care
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: what happens. We'll figure this out. We'll get her back.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And it was like, I just acted better than he did.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: That's how bad it is. um he can do one
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: or two things though right.
• 39:55
  Speaker 18: See that he can do one or two that's a
• 39:56
  Speaker 18: thing and i just watched the fighter recently i'm like
• 40:00
  Speaker 18: he's good at that because it's him you know it's
• 40:02
  Speaker 18: one shade away from marky mark he can do that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: And a father yeah yeah he can do he's one
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: of those actors that can do like What's true for him.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is real.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: He's like kind of a natural. He doesn't really have
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: any technique or anything.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if he's dealing with emotions with a buddy or
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: a brother, I think he can handle it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: He can tap into that. But when he's dealing with
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: being awkward, I think he can tap into that. He
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: is kind of awkward. Right, but when he's.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Dealing with family or being protective or any of that
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff, like... How bad he is, I'm not
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: going to blame him on the happening.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's probably the directing. There's way too many problems.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: He doesn't understand himself. Right.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: He can be good when he's used the right way,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't understand himself.
• 40:49
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But, you know, that plastic tree and the happening out-acts
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: him in that scene.
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: So.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, Marky Mark. But was Saoirse Ronan good? Because that's what...
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I almost want to go watch it for her. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: know she's not huge plot-wise, but... She is in the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: real world.
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: When she's in the real world, she's fantastic. Because I'm
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: so impressed with what little I've seen of her. I mean,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: basically just kind of that one movie so far, I think.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: And her little sister in it that becomes the big sister.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Wasn't she fantastic?
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: There were parts and there were scenes of it that
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is great. And then there was like, oh,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: it's ruined again.
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: Who was it that played the bad guy?
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: Oh, shit.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's... And he doesn't even look like himself.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I know the actor. He's that guy. He's that guy.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He is that guy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: I'll look it up real fast. I want to say
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: it's someone who's always a happy, friendly kind of guy.
• 41:45
  Speaker 14: Come on, phone.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: He's played creepy characters before, too.
• 41:48
  Speaker 14: Not that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Not this level.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Y'all were looking for some romantic entertainment, weren't you?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I had been trying to get her to watch The
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Orphanage for so long, I was like, come on, let's
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: watch it. And it's so hard just getting her to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: watch a movie. Stanley Tucci. There we go.
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, Stanley Tucci is just such a friendly guy.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: He's funny and everything. He's really like the offbeat gay character.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: He does seem to get cast lately in that role.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It took balls to play that part.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: He was very creepy in the movie, and I don't
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: think he was a bad actor, but I look at
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: Stanley Tucci, and I don't want to see him that way.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Again, I haven't even seen it yet, but every... criticism
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: i've heard because he was nominated for that yeah but
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: everything i've heard is like they almost overdid it like
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you look at him and you're like god damn he's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: creepy you know it's like you almost need to back
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: off a.
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: Little it's like they couldn't figure out he was the
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: serial killer really.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Look at that guy you.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Look at him i can see it from a mile
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: away you know i saw.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: It on the poster and went that guy did it.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: At that time period There was no such thing as
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: serial killers or kids disappearing.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: You didn't think about it. Yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: You know, kids did go to the mall, which the
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: mall looked like the malls from that day.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that stuff. The period stuff was great.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: You know, everything, it was spot on.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's so forced and kind of looks like it,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: but you can still tell it's not.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: There was some of that in the mall that I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: was like, how'd they get that?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Some of the period detail was just breathtaking to me.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: It just took me back to.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: A lost world that you don't even believe existed anymore.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Again, I would almost credit that to Peter Jackson. I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: can't believe it is him making this movie that seems
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: so off. It's like everybody has such... terrible things to say,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, really? Peter Jackson? Because he's pretty solid.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: And then there's parts that, you know, it could be
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a Lifetime movie. Sometimes it felt, just the trailer, I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: was like, this doesn't seem like his stuff at all.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: It was just so hokey and ridiculous, but it's partly
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: just in the conception of the story is kind.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Of bullshit, in a way.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, I thought it really wasn't this similar feeling
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: to Heavenly Creatures, but.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: See, I really like Heavenly Creatures. That is one of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: my favorites.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: It was the same directing style and the same.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought that when I saw the trailer, I
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: was just like, so they're going into this fantasy world
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like Heavenly Creatures? I was like, you've already done a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: movie kind of like that. But it still felt like that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: It was like, you know, he's got movies that feel
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: the same, you know, like, I mean, King Kong is
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: nowhere near the scale of Lord of the Rings, but
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: it feels the same like his directing style is the
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: same you know.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's the same scope like you.
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: Know bad taste and dead alive dead alive like those
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: feel the same they definitely feel the same and you
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: know those two movies don't feel anything like Lord of
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: the Rings not at all this felt like I mean
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: it wasn't anything like Heavenly Creatures but it felt the
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: same like directing wise it wasn't as good but.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: If they cut it out if they cut out every
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: bit of the afterlife stuff I would have been completely
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: I would have been it was pretty good It just
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: didn't work for me.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel like it's an afterlife that anybody
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: ever believed in. It's the person who wrote it is
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: just making it up. And it sounds like such a
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: hard story to tell. And in a way, it's like, really,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: they do okay for.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: As bad an idea as it is. It's just such
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a bad idea.
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: It was so unfulfilling, too. I mean, like, the movie ended,
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: and there was nothing that made you.
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: By the end of the movie, I was pissed. Not
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: because I thought it was a bad movie, just because
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: I was so unsatisfied with the ending. Like, you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: you watch The Orphanage, the ending is horrible and sad,
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: and you'll be depressed for days, but it like.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: It's right. But it ties it up. It should have
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: ended that way. There's a lot of movies that aren't
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: happy endings, but I feel like they are the ending
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that needed to happen.
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: That ending was just like.
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: You're exactly right about the orphanage. That's why I loved
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it so much the first time I saw it.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, they're going to stay right here and
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: let you just stay mired in this. And I was
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: so happy they didn't go where they could have gone.
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, where you thought they were going to go for
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: a couple of seconds.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: But don't put the lovely bones on after you watch it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: It's the one-two punch that kind of takes you out.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: Did you and your wife drive to the parent's house?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: We almost did. I just wanted to make sure you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: guys are okay.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: We almost did.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We can use dog teeth as
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a training video now. This is what we're going to do.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: We're going to lock you up. You're never going to
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: leave the house again. You're just holding them, rocking back
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and forth, scarring them.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: When you watch Dog Tooth, picture the parents watching the
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: orphanage and the lovely bones first.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: That's what happened. And then extrapolate that out 15 years later. Oh, wow. Yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: this is how it plays out. So I guess with that,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: we should round out the Geek Week here.
• 47:12
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I need more coffee. Yeah, I think I'm going to
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: reload on coffee, and then we'll be right back.
• 47:17
  Speaker 19: I am an orphan On God's highway But I share my.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: Troubles You go my way I have no mother No
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: father No sister, no brother.
• 47:52
  Speaker 19: I am an orphan girl I have had friendships Pure
• 48:00
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  Speaker 15: Infant chimpanzee.
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  Speaker 14: Paul's secret that can destroy.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: They come from an incredible planet of apes. They survived
• 48:39
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• 48:40
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• 48:48
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  Speaker 22: a loser and you.
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: Know how much i hate to say i told you so.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Why would you not hate this little kid you know
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: that hit he had in the 80s He had one.
• 51:12
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It was just too late.
• 51:15
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Too late for goodbyes. It sounded like John Lennon.
• 51:18
  Speaker 13: It did.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: It sounded a lot like solo John Lennon.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It did, but it also sounded a little like the
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: mosquitoes on the episode.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I really like the mosquitoes. Yeah. I kind
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of wish they would put out an album. Bingo. Bingo, Bingo, Bongo,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: and Irving. It's sad that I know that. I know
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: that too. Bingo, Bingo, Bongo, and Irving. I also, I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: can probably sing all of the musical version of Hamlet.
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: But.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: That's actually it. That's really good. That's a great episode.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I asked to be or not to be. What was it, Carmen?
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: They said it to Carmen. That's a great episode. Neither
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a borrower nor a lender be. I will stand by that.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest. The professor is over there
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: cranking it. Actually, I've got it on disc.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I got it from my mom because she told me
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: she'd watch any version of Hamlet. If there was like
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: a preschool version of Hamlet, I'm like, oh, I've got
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: something for your mom.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I'm out and found the Gilliam's Island version. I still
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: stand by it. That's one of the best sitcoms ever.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: It's still hilarious how well written it is. I think
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I saw it. Every one of those at least five times. Oh,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: more than that. I saw it every day for years.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm still like... Mary Ann was like my model
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: of American womanhood. I'm telling you. I don't understand the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: ginger guys. I'm sorry. Me either. I could never relate
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to ginger. Don't get it.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Although I kind of liked the girl who was the
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: lookalike ginger.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: You know how they all had a twin? Eventually, yeah.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Like before they did the makeover and she became Ginger.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: The dark hair, yeah. She had that sort of librarian look.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: That was kind of cool. By the way, she didn't
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: keep those lips. I saw her a couple years ago.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Tina Louise. She got scary. She got scary old. She
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: took herself like real seriously. She wouldn't do a reunion show.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: She was pissed. Well, she blames that whole show for
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: ruining her career. Yeah, but what career? That's the thing.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: She was in Playboy or something? She was not going
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to do anything else. The professor had a career.
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: He did.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: He was a heavy. Didn't Skipper have a pretty good career, too? Yeah,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Skipper was in real movies before that, too. Yeah, but
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: she was the only one who was a big bitch
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: about it. She's the one that got pissed and thought
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: it ruined everything. Oh, Marianne. Marianne, Jesus Christ.
• 53:34
  Speaker 13: I know.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: And she took.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: If ever I wanted a coconut cream pie, it was
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Marianne's coconut cream pie.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: I mean, Ginger was really high maintenance.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: She was. Marianne was like your pal and yet fucking
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: hot and could make a coconut cream pie. And Better looking.
• 53:55
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, so far. I mean, even to strip everything away, well... No, wait.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: Hold on a minute.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I can't focus.
• 54:03
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And I've said this. This was a running joke for
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Misty and I for years of like, okay, you know what?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I would hit that now.
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Like, you look at her when she got older. Like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Tina Louise was a mess. Did you see the mugshot?
• 54:13
  Speaker 20: But she looked.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: That was her rough period. But seriously, you look at
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: her a couple years before that, for as old as
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: she was, she still looked good. She's a doll. She's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: a doll. I was like, I'm still a side with Marianne.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you just fall in love with the face,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and that just carries on forever.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Mrs. Howell for me.
• 54:30
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: That's all you.
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Back in the day. Back in the day when she
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: was still 80. Once a babe, always a babe.
• 54:38
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: She was, she was, that's the thing. Did you ever
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: hear how, like, she didn't tell them how old she was?
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: Uh-uh.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: She was older than, like, she was 10 years on Mr. Howe. Yeah.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: She was, and she was lying about it. Like, she
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: was running around out in the fucking lagoon, and she was, like,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: 80 years old, and she did not tell them.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Because she knew she wouldn't get the job.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: And she lied about her, back when, you know, you
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: could get away and nobody checked anything.
• 55:00
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Good for her. She lied about her age. That was,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that's amazing.
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: Wow, there were 99 episodes. Yeah, she was born in 1900. Yeah.
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: Natalie Schaefer. Yep.
• 55:09
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: She was old. Wow. She was conceived. Two centuries ago.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: He was in Mr.
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: Howell's Gordon in 1913.
• 55:20
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see... 13 years old.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when the professor turned into the skipper?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Like he was doing Long John Silver's commercials or anything?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: And he comes on and it's like, hey, it's the skipper. Wait,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I thought he was dead. What the fuck? The professor
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: turned into the skipper. Ginger thinks she's Marianne. Marianne thinks
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: she's Ginger. I'm telling you. The professor turned into the skipper.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: It's the best plot lines ever. I'm sorry. I love
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: that show.
• 55:53
  Speaker 11: Oh, yep.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: All right. If ever I was going to turn to TV,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I would just get the DVD set for that. Set
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: for life.
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: So, I guess... What are we going to talk about?
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: With that, we're back.
• 56:03
  Speaker 14: And.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I've been holding off on this for a while because
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I kept waiting to get everybody together. And I've come
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: to the conclusion we're never going to get everybody together.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: So this is a good amount of the group. We'll
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: never tie Misty down and get her to sit down
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and do stuff with all of us. So I'm just
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: going to move into the good amount of feedback we've
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: been building up these next couple of episodes here. So
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I will start and try to do it chronologically here
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: because a couple of them go in order. The first one,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and this sucks because I had a system set up
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to keep from losing voicemails and there was a weird
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: situation with one of the recorders and it didn't record
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and then it deleted it and I fought for like
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: an hour to try to find this lost voicemail and
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: it really was lost. But I listened to it beforehand
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to try to describe or possibly recreate
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest lost voicemails ever. Let me bring
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: up what I was trying to keep track of what
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: this thing says so if this is you and i
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: put a word out on twitter at the time i
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: was like dude whoever this was call back in like
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: i still don't know who it was so here's kind
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: of here's kind of what it came across like someone
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it just comes on you don't really know who it
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: is and it says the thing about the movie wait
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: i just had a movie oh and this some undisturbed
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: you have no idea what the word he says at
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: this point he's naming something The thing is, they say,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Carmen Electra has clams, and the thing is, I have
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: clams too, and it makes it really hard, and he
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: starts crying at this point, and he says, call me
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: back about this, and continues crying until the message stops.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: For the love of God, whoever you are, please call
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: back in, because that, Carmen Electra and clams, I... Is
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: that like crabs? I don't know, but it's pretty awesome,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: isn't it? And I so wanted.
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: To play it.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: What movie was Carmen Electra in? Any of those bad
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: epic movies. Yeah, epic movies. Epic movie kind of stuff.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: That's where they bring her in for movies. So, yeah,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what was going on in that voicemail,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: but it was awesome. And whoever you are, call back in,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: because that was pretty classic right there. And I don't
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: know if it's tied to these next ones, because the
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: next ones are.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I may have to go with oddly even more weird.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And if you're a podcast listener, not just us, but
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: podcasts in general, you may be familiar with this person
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: leaving us this message. Yeah, guys, it's Ruth with us.
• 58:46
  Speaker 14: What the fuck's wrong with my chin, you dick?
• 58:49
  Speaker 15: I'll have you know that my chin was tailor-made for
• 58:53
  Speaker 15: me at Hawks of Savile Row.
• 58:57
  Speaker 16: Just because of the only fucking chins you've had or
• 58:59
  Speaker 16: under your fucking appendix doesn't mean you can put me
• 59:02
  Speaker 16: on your show and humiliate me in front of your
• 59:04
  Speaker 16: millions of listeners.
• 59:05
  Speaker 15: I mean, for fuck's sake. You haven't looked at that bitch, Jolly.
• 59:10
  Speaker 15: in profile, right? Her fucking chin looks like a fucking
• 59:13
  Speaker 15: Norwegian icebreaker.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Yet you've got the.
• 59:16
  Speaker 16: Guile, the balls, well, lack of balls to give me
• 59:19
  Speaker 16: shit about my fucking chin.
• 59:21
  Speaker 14: I'm not happy about it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 16: So what I've decided to do is, right, what I'm
• 59:25
  Speaker 16: going to do now is record.
• 59:29
  Speaker 20: Um.
• 59:29
  Speaker 15: Some, uh, what the fuck do they call them, Jerry? Jerry! Fuck,
• 59:34
  Speaker 15: I don't know, they call them, I don't know.
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: Ready?
• 59:37
  Speaker 15: One, two, three. Hey, this is Grace Witherspoon and you
• 59:42
  Speaker 15: are listening to Lootie Meltdown. Fucking up your luck, bitches.
• 59:48
  Speaker 15: How does your chin look? At least I fucking got one. Fuck, man,
• 59:52
  Speaker 15: how many fucking bloody statues have.
• 59:54
  Speaker 20: You got, bitch?
• 59:56
  Speaker 11: Anyway, I really liked the show, and even though you
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: gave my gin a bit of shit, I'm pretty upset
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 11: about it, you know?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 15: But still, I enjoyed the last episode.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 14: Fuckers better just watch yourselves.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 15: Look, I'm right near you.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 16: I'm closer than you think, girls and boys.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 15: And by the way, seeing that you're so interested in
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 15: what you like, I'm going to tell you what I like.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 15: The movies I've seen this week.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: Well, actually, I didn't do any.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 15: But in the last month, I watched, well, Lawrence of Arabia, backwards,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 15: Alien 3. I'm really looking forward.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 16: To Prometheus, whatever the fuck, it's a bit out of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 16: my league, to Prometheus' Arab house.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 15: Do you know what?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 16: We had a viewing of Alien in the mud hut,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 16: me and Cherry and a few other guys. And we
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 16: could see the same kind of, see him over and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 16: over again in the early.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 20: Works of Sam Peckinpah and when you look at those
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 20: in relation to the not so much the scene where
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 20: the thing jumps out of John's stomach it's the bit
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 20: when you know Ash.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 11: Is revealed as the lowlife android.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 20: He is did you notice Sam Peckinpah is it just
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 20: me has nobody else seen it is that beautiful I'm
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 20: not a friend of anybody trying to kill someone with
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 20: a magazine I'm sure I'm sure that that was intended
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 20: to be.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 14: Homage homage to the.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 15: Peck not the Greg the peck well look I'm going
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 15: to go back in the hut.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: I've got some livid on the fucking barbie we don't
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: have shrimps here that is bullshit and yes it's fucking
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: deadly and all the rest of it Good night, and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 11: if you.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 16: Ever mention my chin again, on the air.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Alright, so we heard from Reese Witherspoon. I did hear that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. If that's what Reese.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon really feels like, she's a fantastic actress.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: I never knew she sounded like an Australian man.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: So that's what happened to Paul Hogan? Um, it could
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: be i i again if you listen to a lot
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: of shows i i believe we've we've now again this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: was a little while ago but uh i'm assuming we've
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: been found out by scorn oh he's he's legendary in
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: the podcasting realm so yeah that's kind of awesome i
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: guess that we've we found our way onto scorns player
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: so cool Yeah, and I wasn't, I was only guessing.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I just, you know, you kind of recognize the voice
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and the crazy rambling. But, yeah, it was also followed
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: up by another message. Can we hear this one as well?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 14: Hello to you, this is Mr.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: Cherry. It is very important that you realize that the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: previous caller was not Reese Witherspoon, but in fact a
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 10: loneliness-guided and failed film critic wishing, not pretending.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 14: Falsifying, and dreaming of some swampy recognition outcome. Well, if
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 14: it was Kungsjans, he would know that all is not
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 14: well in Denmark, and he will never play the Dane.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 14: He lives in a candy castle and has ruthlessly targeted
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 14: your very fine podcast to do nothing but self-promote his
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 14: own emptiness. Be aware, young hatchlings. Be aware, oh fountains
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 14: of youth. Mr. Mandible is the harbinger of darkness and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 14: all things generally unpleasant. For so long I have suffered
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 14: under the savage digits of Scorn Mandible. Please help me.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 14: You have no idea what it's like to be programmed
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 14: to defy and retaliate against all things innumerable and in
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 14: essence unholy.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: You may have.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 14: Also noticed that he cannot spell. Enough on right follows
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 14: of celluloid. Let us march along celluloid rivers of glory
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 14: to experience the horrific rains of terror. Oh, wait.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 14: Just backing up. Bloody well, hindsight.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: I love this man.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm telling you. Oh, that's Scorn. He's a character,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: is he not? So, Scorn, we're glad that you found us.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jerry, for warning us.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: Thanks, Jerry.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you to your computer for giving us fair warning.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't have known if that wasn't Reese Witherspoon.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, yeah, we totally would have bought into the fact
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: that it was Reese Witherspoon.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: Please, please, please. I hope you're going to make that
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: part of our commercial. You know how you have to.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Our wonderful promos.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: You know how there's like Sid Haig and Danny Trejo? Like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: I'm Sid Haig and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. Please, please, please.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I'm Reese Witherspoon.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: Is that a Scottish accent you just did?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 11: Um, no.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 14: Sorry.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 11: Ugh.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of accent. That was scorn.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: I think that was the way Reese Witherspoon actually said it.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually. That's the real Reese Witherspoon. And I'm not
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: even sure, I think that was a ways back. I'm
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: just trying to remember what set that off. I think
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Probably in response to Lucy stating that.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe, I didn't know if it was that one
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: or if it was one way back, the one where
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: we were making fun of Reese Witherspoon's baby's butt. Oh,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: that's wild. Yeah, that was an old one, so I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: didn't know if it was that far back, because that's
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: the last time I remember our crew making fun of
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Reese in particular. But Lucy, yeah, I mean, that was recent,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: but this... This has been, I mean, it's been a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: while that we've had this one, so I'm not sure
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: which it's applying itself to, but either way, I'm sure
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: we've said horrible things about it. Well, I actually like Reese,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: and at least back in the day, she was a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: cute kid.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: And you named your cat after her.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean, she.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I don't mind her, but I just thought it was
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: so funny how much Lucy hated her.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: You actually have a Reese Witherspoon magnet on your refrigerator.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: On my refrigerator right now. Reese Witherspoon, again, I had a.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: She used to be way more tolerable. She got into
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: the rom-com thing.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she started doing sweet home Alabama shit. Whatever.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, she does okay in that kind of vehicle,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: but election.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Election. She's very good in election. She was good when
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: she was younger. Again, like Man in the Moon we
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: were talking about, or whatever that one was we were
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: talking about. Not that again.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: That's a different movie.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: They put a man in the moon. And it was Elvis.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: There were several other ones when she was young that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: she was pretty good in. Again, I had a weird
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: attachment to Freeway. But after that, she went. By the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: time Legally Blonde hit, and the first one's pretty fun
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: still i mean as ridiculous as it is it's a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: fun movie.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: And snap and that works by the way.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: She well it does work that i'll let you.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: Make that you don't have to be a solution for
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: that to work i've tested that theory and it works.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I've tested it and it didn't work at all that's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: just oh nobody told me that so yeah i i
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: again our feelings for research are Kind of, you know,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: back and forth, but obviously that week we had something
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: harsh to say about her chin. Oh, that was Lucy. Yeah,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: water for elephants right after.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was Lucy. Yeah, I feel the same way
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: about Jennifer Aniston, though.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 23: It's like, if they were to be in a movie together,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 23: it would be like Highlander. I could be the only one,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 23: freakishly long, joker-esque chin.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. I was watching her
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: do press for whatever this new thing is she's out
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: there pushing, and the sound was off on the TV.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: It was just this giant shot of her head. And
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: it would cut back and forth, and I'm like, did
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: she do something to herself? Like, she looked weird all
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: of a sudden. Which one? Reese or Jennifer? No, this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: was Jennifer. Jennifer Aniston. And it was almost like her nose...
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: She has transformed into Brad Pitt. I think, but it's like...
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: She's Brad Pitt in a wig. Like, she went backwards. Like,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: usually they get weird nose jobs, and they're, like, tiny. Like,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: hers was switching back to the old nose. And I'm like,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: this is new footage. What has she done now? It's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: getting Clinton-esque. Did she take Jennifer Grey's old nose?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened. Yeah, it was very weird.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: They just kept showing footage of her. I was like,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but it's scary. Well,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: as you age, your features get larger. I suppose. Maybe
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: hers just blossomed all of a sudden. Maybe. Again, I
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: was not thrilled with the weird middle section. Yeah, very Joker-esque,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: as you say. She did. look like that if you
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: yeah if you go back and look at that first
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons of friends she was still kind of
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: a pretty girl and then something kicked in and I
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell if it was surgery or what it was
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: but she got kind of strange looking by the time
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: her movies kicked in.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I'm generally a fan of athletic physiques, but she looks
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: hard and weird kind of.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: They all kind of. I mean, good lord. Linda Hamilton,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: you don't really want to touch her kind of way.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: In the Courtney Cox. The scariness of what Courtney Cox
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: kind of has turned into now. And again, she used
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: to be cute. She started looking like Brad Pitt. I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: blame Pilates.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: It's that.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Increased muscle mass in women that I don't like. I guess.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I don't mind the muscle, but it's like that old
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: man kind of muscle.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sinewy.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: The weird kind of like, I've been riding the rails
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: and working the orchards.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Kind of muscle.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: It's the kind of muscle you don't see anymore because
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: guys don't have that anymore.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Guys now have like inflatable muscles. Everything's big and fluffy.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: They don't have, and they probably need to get more
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: of that like old, hard, lean kind of muscle.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, she looks like a hobo or something. Like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: a hard-working hobo. Oh, I'm sure she will be proud
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to put that on her next press jacket.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say mean things about anybody.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: No, not on this show. We would never say anything horrible.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, who am I to say anything mean? But
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: she's strange looking. Well, that's mine. I don't usually attack
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: people for what they look like. I've lately just been like,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I have to comment when they start changing. And again,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: most of it is because of surgeries. And I kind
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: of hate what they're doing to people's faces in surgery.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm looking at pictures of her throughout the years.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: And you know what I think it is? You know
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: the Rachel haircut that she had? She has a, like,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: freakish mandible. You know, she's got a long chin that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: juts out and, like, freakish side jaw.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: And that's like the Brad. pit factor.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: She used to have hair that was short.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: And covered it. Some marketing genius went, give her this hairstyle.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: And then it was like a hit and they named
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: it after her.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: And now it's just long and straight and it doesn't
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: cover up her disgusting Luke Wilson face.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't call her disgusting. Good lord.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, she may have changed.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: For somebody who's like an attractive leading lady type, yeah,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I would say there's something wrong.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, as just a normal person you'd see around anywhere,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: she's lovely. She'd be a knockoff.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: She's perfectly lovely. But as somebody who's, like, cast as
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: a leading lady, I'm.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm not sure I'd do that. You know, I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: think people say that they like her and stuff. I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: think secretly, that's why her movies fail. I don't think
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: anybody likes her. No, I don't think anybody.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, now we're delving into, you're not just ugly, people
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: don't like you either.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm just talking about public persona. I'm not
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: talking about, like, she has no friends and she's lame.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: I really think it's the, well, if Brad Pitt doesn't
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: want her, then she's no good to.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: The rest of us. I think it did. Well, and
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: it doesn't help that she made really bad movies for
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: a long time there. So I think it got to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: the point where people were just writing off her movies
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: along with her.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: The good movies she was in, she wasn't a main character.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: She felt like anybody else could have been. Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: She was in Office Space, but it could have been
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: anybody else. She didn't really mark that role.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: And I saw a decent little romantic comedy not long
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: ago called Management, and it was okay.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Could have been anybody else. She didn't bring anything to it.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: She could have, four years into Friends, become Julia Roberts.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But she didn't. With better projects. With better projects.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: And getting away from Friends. Because Friends just sort of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: marked them all. And, like, who's gone on to have
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: something successful after that? Not really any of them. I mean,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: they're all still trying. I think the Joey show was good.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Joey was going to be a grandfather for. Oh, he's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: going to be the next. As Joey.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Because he can bring that special intensity that he has
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: that I guess it was between.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, when you work with Heston, when you're
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: doing a scene with Chuck... You know, the one.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: Who's, I think, made the best career afterwards, maybe you
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: could say Arquette because she's been in the.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Courtney Cox says she's been in the screen movies. I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: think it's Schwimmer. Has he done anything? I mean, he
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: had his movies during the run.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I don't remember much since then. He's kind of the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: same guy. He was in Band of Brothers as sort
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: of a doofus. And he was quite believable as a doofus.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: The Madagascar movies. Do you know that he writes for iCarly?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, that doesn't surprise me. I see it. I write
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: for iCarly.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Right. I know that he's done some indie stuff. See,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. I thought he moved more behind into
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: the production end of it. That's why I hadn't seen
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: him in anything. So I think he's had the best
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: career since. I don't know. Again, it's not saying much
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: out of him. No offense to the cast of friends.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: I'm still caught up on this Jennifer Aniston's face morph phenomenon.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: What I really think it is.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: She has a very masculine chin and jaw. It's the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Victor Periakis effect.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it's mainly because, like I said, the haircut,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: and also because she lost so much weight. If you
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: look at this picture, she's healthy.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: She has a full face.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: She's round.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: She's got some curves. That's when she was attractive, yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: She's creepy, has a creepy face, a skeletor. You know, actually,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: I was at work the other night. I was leaving,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: and this man that comes into work that I love
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: named Walter... his brother was my high school principal, and
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 8: he's a douchebag. And he's in there with a different
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 8: old skanky lady every night.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: There's not a shortage of them.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 11: No, no, no.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: And he's like, well, I'm going to go. I'm going
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: to go say goodbye to my little brother. I'm going
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 8: to have to pull him away from that Skeletor with
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: fake tits first.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: So he just prescribed half of Hollywood. Yeah, exactly. I think,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really do. I think you just proved it.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Men prefer the women to have a little bit of
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: fat on them. Not to say that she was fat,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: but at all. She was well-proportioned, where now she just looks,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: like Fred said, she just looks hard now. Just skinny
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: and muscly and kind of, I don't know, it's weird.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: A little closer to the Crypt Keeper. Yeah, which is
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: the same thing with Courtney Cox. I don't like muscles
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: in women. I think that can be a great look.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: It can be. But, you know, sometimes it's a matter
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: of perception.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Like I was saying, like, One time how I like
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: really sort of thick, muscular legs on women, and this
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: woman was like, ew.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, ice skaters.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah gymnast oh yeah well yeah then you get it
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: but i mean you.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: I'm sure you weren't speaking of like an arkham level.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 24: Like yeah those girls are hot come on i'm just
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 24: there there are really a lot of different ways to
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 24: be hot the the sickness of our culture is that
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 24: so much of it is just one way.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: But really, there's a lot of different kinds of things
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: that are cool.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: And the thing with Jennifer Aniston is she's like perfectly lovely,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: but then.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: What is she working out for? Is it like a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: female Joe Piscopo thing that's happening? Or a carrot top?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's older Hollywood. So you take steroids or what?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: When women get older in Hollywood, it's like they've got
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: to do something to feel like they're competing. So it's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: horrible surgeries or tons of working out or worse, both.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: And it's sad because she's gotten worse looking, but she's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: in such good shape. Whatever happened to Charm? Well, that's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, most of the women that are attractive,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: like I look at, are the ones that didn't do anything.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: And now, you know, all those younger women are doing that,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: but who's, like, the one that people go to now
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: is like, man, she's really attractive. Helen Mirren. She didn't
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: do any of that shit. And how old is she now?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: And she got older, and she's still attractive. And I'm like,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: somebody take a lesson from that. I'm sorry. She is
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: so hot. And, you know, I've seen her naked, and...
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: She's kind of lumpy.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: And she's got some cellulite and stuff.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: But she's great. This is not in the movie. She
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: had her over to the house, and let me tell you.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 21: Him and John Carpenter and this hippie girl. The hippie
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 21: girl just watched. We were just swimming around and stuff. No,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 21: she's really attractive.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. She has charm. she does i mean
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: that and she's i mean she's outrageously good looking she
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: or most of the like older actresses have that you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: know like that physique obsession that older generation of actresses
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: that like still just sort of aged and stayed kind
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: of attractive i mean even as they got you know it's.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 25: The Susan Sarandon Susan Sarandon i was thinking like even
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 25: like Lauren Bacall just got to be an older lady
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 25: but she wasn't unattractive she just you know just happens
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 25: she just got older yeah but she didn't get creepy
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 25: she didn't get scary you know she didn't do anything
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 25: drastic yeah it does seem.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Like holly hunter went through sort of a hard.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Phase yeah she did she looks sort of like a bike.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: But she lost it too yeah but then i don't.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Care nobody does she still has the charm she see
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: if jennifer aniston had the charm she could be hard
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: like that and it would still work she just doesn't
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: The problem is the reason people don't like her is
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: you never feel like you know her. And then she's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: like one of those friends you've had for like 20,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: 30 years, and one day you realize, I just never
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: get to know them better.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: What's the point?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Then of having friends that you never get to know?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: It's just depressing, and she's that. She seems very detached.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really reveal herself. She's an actress who doesn't
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: really reveal herself. And it's weird because these are fictional characters,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: but it is funny. You watch other people, and you
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: do feel like you know the person. You know the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: actor almost. You know something about him. You get a
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: feel for them where, yeah, she seems so detached from everything. Yeah,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: I think that's why they can put her... I mean,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 8: she's normally in romantic comedy roles, and she'll... She's not
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: amazing in anything, but she'll work in anything because she's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: just such a blank slate.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: You can plug her into any scenario. She's never acted. No.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: She does Rachel. She does Rachel over and over again.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: Although in Horrible Bosses, she was a creepy sex offender,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: which was hilarious. And she was hot in that movie.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 8: You know, like... I mean, she was creepy, but, like,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: she looked good.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Well, sometimes creepiness makes it work. Sometimes that's what you're
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: looking for. That's what she ought to be doing is
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: being creepy. That's brand name. I mean, she played.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: A creepy, aggressive cougar, and she was, like, sexy.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, sometimes willingness is all that it takes
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: to be sexy. And I think that's with some men.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: It's like just putting yourself out there to some men.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: I know for me, willingness is like a quality in
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: a woman that, yeah, makes it all work.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: It all hinges on that. It could be. It's just
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: willingness is all it takes. Well, is she there? I'm
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: always looking for present. Is she here right now? I'm
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: good to go.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 11: Let's go.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, Greg's got a spit take going.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: Hold on.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: We're taking it down a level. Not just ruling, just present.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Present and kind of alright with the idea. Are you aloof?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Good enough. As long as you're not totally against it,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I can work with that. Oh, you're not going to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: press charges? Good, let's go. I can work around that.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: No restraining order. Yeah, we can see what we can
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: turn this into, you know. Wearing her down. Well, that's
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a strategy, right? What did Albert Pugh say? A no
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: is a maybe. A maybe is a yes. I think
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: he was talking about Hollywood negotiations, not date rape. It's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: probably about the same. Probably one was based on the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: lawyer said, well, we have this. Let's just use it here.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: He said, in Hollywood, a no is always a maybe.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: That's true. He was probably talking about the casting couch.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: A maybe is always a yes. Casting couch.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 14: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Probably talking about Roman Polanski. That's not funny. No, Albert
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  Speaker 1: King was not creepy like Rowan.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 1: Albert was a charming man.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, that willingness. It's like Jennifer Aniston. She doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: willing as an actor, and she doesn't kind of seem
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  Speaker 2: present either.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: So those two basic root concepts, they make her unsexy
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  Speaker 2: as an actress.
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  Speaker 1: She's not fun to watch, really. She's okay. She's there.
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  Speaker 1: She does the job. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: But there are other actors who like, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: actors I would just watch sitting at a table having
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  Speaker 2: coffee for.
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  Speaker 1: A half hour just because you look at them and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're getting something. They're engaging. Let's say Friends,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: for instance. You can tell with writers... The character.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: In an ensemble that becomes pregnant is the one that's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: not a character at all.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Because they don't have any clue what to do with it.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: And that's her.
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  Speaker 4: What are we going to do with Rachel? She has
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  Speaker 4: to have a... She has to have something. You've got
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: to give her business. Well, let's have her be pregnant.
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  Speaker 4: Because that will give us something to write about. Because otherwise,
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  Speaker 4: there's nothing there.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Once she got with Ross.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it did kill that. It just, it died. It was, yeah.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, again, the show's almost tolerable the first half,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: but after you hit that point where they were on again,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: off again, I'm like, okay, it sucked. I mean, it
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't as well put together, and you also didn't care anymore. Like,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: she's been with everybody in the past. Well, Snoop Dogg
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: still cared.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: I remember he was really torn up when Friends was canceled.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Did you see that? Yeah, I actually did see that, yeah.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe Friends is canceled.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 8: Well, if you think about it, I mean, like, in
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: that show, everyone is... They have their quirks that makes
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 8: you like them. You know, like, Phoebe is.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Except Ross.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Nobody likes Ross.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he wasn't likable, but he had his quirks.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: He had his quirks. He was very quirky.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: You know, Joey was dumb as shit. Chandler was sarcastically funny.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 20: Uh.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 8: baby was just weird and but it was lovable well monica.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: They had to build in the uh yeah because she
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: didn't have anything in the first season yeah yeah the
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: first season or two she was just kind of boring
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: and then they gave her ocd and super competitiveness and
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: then she was fat previously and then her character built
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: all that yeah but.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: Then like rachel rachel was just kind of like she
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: could have not even been there at all and.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: You know Well, early on, didn't she have something like
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: she was a spoiled rich person.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Who didn't understand anything about the world? For the first
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons, they got that. But then it all.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: You know, they wrote, but I guess it just didn't
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: hold up, or it didn't catch fire or work or.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Anything, so they gave up. Why are we talking about Prince?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure why we first see him, though. It
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: was Courtney Cox's show. It was called These Friends of Mine.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: It was her. Wasn't that Ellen? I'm pretty sure. That's Ellen,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Really? I think that was the Ellen
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: show before it became the Ellen show.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: Because I remember a red book that my mother had
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: that it was talking about it was her show, and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: they were going.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: To build these characters around her. They still, I mean,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: they built it around her. She was the only one
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: that sort of people knew and were familiar with.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: You may be wrong, you're right on the title, but
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: I thought for certain that it was something.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 11: Something.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just friends. It was something... But.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Didn't Richard Cunningham have, like, an older brother named Chuck
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: or something who went off to college?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: He went upstairs and never came back down. Who is
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: this then? On Happy Days. On Happy Days. He had
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: an older... Well, they do that. I mean, the Cosbys,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: if you watch that first episode, they only have four kids. Right.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: He says... He mentions they have four kids. And then
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden later, they have this older sister
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: that comes back from college. I'm just like, well, wait
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: a minute.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 11: So.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: They changed their mind in the writing sometimes. Rudy was
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: going to be a boy. There you go. I was
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: going to be a boy.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: They ran out of what to do with Tempest Blood, so.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 20: Oh.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Very early on. Right. And then Rudy wasn't cute anymore,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: so they had to bring in another little bratty child.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: That's so Raven. Fucking Raven. So, I don't know. We've,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: spiraled the hell out into TV wasteland at this point
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: so TV meltdown well we're still discussing the Hollywood scene
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: as it were so I feel like it's it's not
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: that far removed but I got my spit take coffee
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: we should get the hell out while we can since
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: we're talking about friends so with that I guess we
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: should at least throw out next week okay kids get
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: out your recorder bins dum dum doo is that your
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: you needed something your Courtney Cox impersonation right okay That
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: was my Reese Witherspoon. Oh, Lord. It is time for
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: the Movie Outdown Secret Circle reveal of the next exciting feature.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 14: For you members of the Secret Circle.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Which we will be back for next week with, we
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: have recently watched and will discuss, probably at great length,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: the fine film, The Thing with Two Heads. Fine film.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: It's on Netflix. Go watch it now. Originally, it was
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: called These Two Heads of Mine. Wait, wasn't that Ellen
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: and Courtney Cox?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I would watch that sitcom. Now that sounds pretty funny.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: It actually did have an alternative title.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. We'll get to that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: next week. All right. Otherwise, that about does it. We
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 26: So no one told you life was gonna be this
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 26: way Your job's a joke, you're broke, your love life's
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 26: DOA It's like you're always stuck in.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Second gear.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 26: When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 26: or even your year, but.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 7: For you When the rain starts to pour, I'll be
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 7: there for you Like I've been there before, I'll be
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 7: there for you. Cause you're there for me too.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to have.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: To pour this out. That was a good one.
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  Speaker 12: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown. Produced and
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  Speaker 12: edited by the Oddity Studios. With opening music performed by
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 12: The Empire.
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  Speaker 1: Talk hard!