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#189 - Beverly Brock - The Brock Agency, Inc · The Chris and Mike Show

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It's time to live. And we're live.
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Twitchers. See, we got Beverly rocking.
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I used to believe a rock man I was rocking.
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Right on. We got to talk about that a
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little bit now. Come on.
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going out for for quite a while to come on the show.
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We've had directors on, we've had producers on, we've had
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actors on. We've had people that have been
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in major motion pictures. We've had people that made
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documentaries and stuff. So it's kind of full circle
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today because we have Beverly Brock on from the Beverly Brock
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talent agency. So give us a little elevator.
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Elevator, Spila, why you're hearing what you all about,
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Beverly? I'm here because you asked me.
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Best answer ever. You took the origin out of my
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mouth. That is the best answer ever.
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Thank you. I'm an agent Brock agency.
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People say that all the time. Beverly.
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I'm I'm with Beverly Brock Agency.
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It's the Brock agency incorporate and I am the founder
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and the owner since 1990s. Long time feels like forever,
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but I love it. I do love it.
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I help actors find their way into film and TV and commercials
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and music videos. It just depends on what it is
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and if it's really good enough. Take off work and go to, you
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know, if it's in their location, I try to submit them in their
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location as much as possible unless it's out of their
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location and it pays for travel and housing, which a lot of them
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do now. So that's what I do every single
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day. And I also represent
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screenwriters. What got you into this?
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Well, welcome back. I think.
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I think it's I I'd like to sell things.
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And this is like selling the same thing.
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I like to sell stuff. When I was 12, I was a top
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Sunshine greeting card girl in our community on my bike.
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I sold the top car. They were greeting cards and I,
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I was so excited. I thought I could make money
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doing this. They gave me money for doing
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that. I thought, this is so much fun.
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I told my mother I love it. Then I had to figure out another
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way to make money. So when I was in high school, we
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could the drug stores right down the street from my high school.
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So during our break, I leave with my boyfriend and go down to
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the drug store. And I bought cinnamon oil.
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I shouldn't tell. It's on air.
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I can't tell it. Anyway, I made special things
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that that were not bad things. They were OK.
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They were cool things. I made cinnamon toothpicks.
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OK, but you can't you can't put a cinnamon on your lips because
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it'll make your face swell up. But I sold them for a nickel
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apiece. It was just toothpicks, but they
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were soaked in salmon oil. And I thought, well, that was
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easy enough. I only make me about 5 bucks.
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So I had to think of some other way.
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So I, I was, I grew up in the country, My mom and dad had this
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beautiful house out in the country, which we all loved.
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And we were surrounded by my uncle's, my great uncle's farms
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all around us, Peach orchards, everything was beautiful.
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And so I went in the fields and I collected all these dry
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flowers. And so I, I learned from my mom,
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I hung the flowers upside down to dry in one of my daddy's
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barns. And then when it got dry, I
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sprayed them with dark. You know, what do you call that
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kind of paint and glow paint, whatever it is?
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And I sold them a bunch for $0.25.
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And I like doing that a lot. So I've had that for quite a
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while. And little, little by little, I
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got to where I would, when I go to the movies, I would sit in
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the movies after the movie was done.
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My mom took us to see a movie every weekend and downtown in
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Raleigh, where I grew up. And I I made them all, my
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brother and my two sisters and my mom.
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What what I've made them wait so I could see all the credits.
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And why I did that I do not know.
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But it led me to this path. I wanted to know who directed
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it, who produced it, who cast it, where the actors were from.
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So I'd have to, I wouldn't have computers in.
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So you had to read about people and, you know, listen to the
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news or whatever. But I didn't like the news.
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And I was like, yeah, so. But I said in that theatre, I
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remember in Patton, my brother is a big and in the patent I had
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to sit there too. So I watched that whole and my
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brother was so upset. Let's go home.
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This is ridiculous. I said I have to see who did all
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the costumes. I've got to see everything.
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And that's how I think I first got my love for this industry.
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That's cool was how people were so creative and how they made
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such great product. I was like that with music,
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Beverly. I always wanted to know, Oh
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yeah, I wanted to know who produced it, who engineered it,
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because the sounds were just as important as the songs, right?
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If it didn't sound good, it was hard to listen to.
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So even if it was a good song, it got ruined.
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It meant something to who the producer was, where the
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recording studio was. I got a kick out of all that
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stuff. So I.
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Right. How did you get into the acting
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in the music side of it? Obviously you fell in love with
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movies. How did you get into the music
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side of it? I used to sing in my church
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choir and that was when I was younger, you know, really young,
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like 16-17, something like that. And my daddy will maybe be a
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Christian music singer. And I said, daddy, it's really
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hard to get into Christian music.
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It was then I had no idea. I didn't know it.
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It's still hard to get into Christian music unless you get
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in there and you do a crossover, you do rock and Christian, then
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it's a little easier. But I said Daddy is too hard.
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But I got into a folk musical that one of the first folk
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musicals ever. It was our church and it's
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called Tell it Like it is. And it was a folk musical about
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Jesus. And we would travel for
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different schools and different not schools, but different
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churches and they would house us for the weekend and they'd feed
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us and and we got to go to their church and we sing our tell it
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like it is little program. And I like that.
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And so, OK, they're not that one kind of span because we didn't
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have enough people after a while.
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And I got into another one and it was 80 people in that one was
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big and we didn't travel quite as much.
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We did a lot of singing in the churches around our communities
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and stuff. And then I got into another one
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and it was even bigger. And then we decided we would
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make a vinyl album. Tells you how old I am.
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So we made an album to sell the community to help cover our
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travels. And I was a lead vocalist.
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Our church had great acoustics and I was a lead vocalist album
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and I thought, I don't really like this.
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I didn't get paid for it, but it didn't matter.
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We were singing about God, who I believe in and I just wanted to
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spread that good word, you know, I did.
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It made me feel good. It made me feel like I was doing
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something really good for other people.
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Sharing your love for for other people and and making them
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realize you love them and that God loved us all.
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I mean, I love doing that. So I bet after that.
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Might be the best description of music I've ever heard.
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Yeah, that was. You're so sweet.
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That's how I feel in my heart. I do.
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I feel that way in my acting stuff.
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I really feel like I'm here to help people because I pray about
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it a lot because it's hard. I got turned my phone off for
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you guys. I can't believe I didn't do
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that. I.
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Apologize, I didn't either, so I'm going to do that right now
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too. I really.
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Think mine's plugged in it. Just starts beeping away.
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Don't matter what time of day it is.
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I turn it off at 7:00 at night because I don't want to hear it
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beeping all night. But then I, I was working at the
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in a newspaper downtown on Fayetteville St. in Raleigh and
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I was a receptionist, but I had to work do this the part time
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job ads and I'd already been in a an English rock band, but they
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wouldn't let me sing. I had to operate lights and
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sound, which I did do and did that for a year and I got tired
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of doing that. So then I got into a country
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rock band and we had a it was great.
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We travelled a lot and we sang a lot.
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All the guys that played in that band were were professors from
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Carolina, all of them. I detected an accent.
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That's what we're talking about is the Southeast.
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Yeah, yes, that's where I'm at. I'm in North Carolina.
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North Carolina. The best place to live in the
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world. I love it.
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That's where my grandfather was from, so my mother would agree
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with you. Where?
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Where at? He was from the Raleigh Durham
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Arrow. Yes, I, I, I, I I'm more
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southern now than I was. I've been here 48 years, so I I.
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Was. I was You pick up on accents
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wherever you live, I think. I think if I went to the London
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I'd probably tell like selling them in five years too.
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So so you may take this as a right you.
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Said something Chris, what did? You say, well, I'm going to say
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you may. Take care of Chris for some
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reason. You can't hear me at all.
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I know he's. I'm not sure why we we see Chris
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but we don't hear him for some reason.
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I he's going to fix. This anyway, in the in the
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newspaper I found an ad and it said they were looking for a
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lead singer for a band, a Top 40 band.
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They just did, you know, 4 Top 40 stuff.
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And so I went to see him and they were all young.
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I was young too, but I thought I know more than these guys know.
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So I said I want to buy the band and I want to buy get all new
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equipment and I want to manage the band and I want the band.
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They said OK, so how? Old were you at the time you're?
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Not going to believe this. Things have changed some.
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I was 17. That that's so important to
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establish because I knew you were going to say something like
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that. It's crazy.
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When I tell that story, it's like I don't hide a note.
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I wrote all the contracts for us to play at venues and and I we
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got all the songs we're going to play.
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I got our song list and then I got hired A photographer.
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I don't know how I found him. I don't know who told me he did.
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He shot us in the rock, Raleigh rock quarry.
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And I still have the picture on my office wall and it's it.
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I can't. One of the guy's name is Davis.
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I can't remember the other guy's name.
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I probably could have just came to me.
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But we we played a long time and we played.
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I mean, I did all the bookings, I said I.
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Did that for our band as well, so we have that in common.
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We do I. Was basically manager, booking
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agent. And I was a singer, lead
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vocalist, so. Chris did that job.
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I played guitar, but I had some good teachers coming up through
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the business. I had an excellent guitar
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teacher who also did a lot of that stuff for his band.
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And he said, you know, if you can do these things, you take
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all that money too, right? You don't have to pay somebody
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to book all your gigs. Exactly.
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You split. I would just put the money up
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four ways. And mine was curiosity like
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yours, first and foremost. Anyway.
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I loved watching how they did the lights, how they did the
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sound. I learned to be a sound man.
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And with that, I got to meet guys like Dan Marley and Joe
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Klein from the Phoenix Suns because I was able to run sound
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for a band big enough to play at those guys's venues, you know?
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Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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I was so glad that I took the time to do that.
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It's walking the walk, you know? I mean, you got to step outside
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the box and I still don't know how I knew how to do any of that
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stuff. I don't either.
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I think I was too stupid to understand.
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I didn't know what I was doing, right.
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I just had the guts and the courage to walk in there and say
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give my band a chance. That's I think that's what
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impressed a lot of them. I didn't say give us a gig, give
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us the best gig. I said give us a chance, One
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chance, right? Right, right.
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I was just, I mean, I, I went in and I delivered my spiel and I
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tell them what we wanted for the night to pay and what I needed.
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The guys needed, you know, drinks and dinner and I said I
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just want orange juice. I don't want anything else.
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Just orange juice is all I want. So, and we always, you know, did
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a good job, packed the house and we had a we had a good thing
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going on. I forget how then I met my
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husband. He didn't want me doing it
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anymore. So I had to stop so you know,
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but I sang here in Hickory steel like at Murray's Mill.
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I, I found a guitarist and she's played for me and I went down.
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Murray's Mill is a is a historical site near here.
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And I said, but I also did theatre here too.
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I did. I was my first play.
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I was up for best supporting actress, but and I was so
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excited. I played three roles and I
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played again Sam. It was so much fun.
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But then another, an older lady, she'd been in theatre forever.
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She won that award and I was, I was upset, but you know, it was
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an 81. I was, you know, she would have
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been it long, much longer than me.
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That was my first play. So I just happened to be good at
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on stage presence and I just get out there and just do it.
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And I and she died a few years later.
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So I was grateful that she got it over me, even though I really
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wanted it. It didn't really matter that
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much. So I did a couple of reading
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stages. I was Scrooge 1 Christmas.
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Welcome back, Mommy. You have a great Grinchy grin.
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You have a great Grinchy grin. So I I've done a lot of stuff
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and I modeled here in Hickory when I was younger.
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And so I have done the gamut. So I know the and I book my own
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gigs, ask my own money. I got the clothes from my shoot
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back, back in the day. That was something you could do,
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but you don't do it now. And I got it and I got the
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tears. So I thought if I can do this
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for myself, I bet I could do it for somebody else.
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There you go. And so my photographer who's
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here in Hickory, great photographer, James, the brands,
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I mean, and still know him and his wife.
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He said, I did some work with the lady downtown Hickory.
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She's got a modeling agency. Well, I went to see her and
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well, it's a long story. I don't want to.
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Tell you. That I bought her out and I, but
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I had to I had to incorporate my name because, you know, it's a
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long story. I don't want to tell the whole
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thing on air, but I incorporated the name so and changed
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everything and that's what opened the doors was the Brock
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agency when I incorporated the name because it sounded.
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And it's Brock. It's Brock Talent Agency,
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correct? It's the Brock.
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The Brock Agency. I'm sorry.
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The Brock agency, Yeah. That's OK.
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I tell my talent all the time. They steal.
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You just need to steal. I'm with the Beverly Brock
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Agency. But you know what?
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I don't care. At least they're saying money.
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This is why I asked, because I like to share.
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I like to share. Our I know that's a great thing.
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There you go. Just Travis.
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I was going to tell you Nick to do an interview with him.
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He's great. He's been in a lot of shows.
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Well, get him on the show. I will do it.
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And Sam, Doctor Sam, I will do it.
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And Doctor Sam Maguira, he's, he's awesome too.
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And he's doing an international commercial right now.
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I've got some great, great talent.
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I mean, Barry Price and I mean, I can't name all of them, but
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they're all so great. I'm all my time talking about
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them. And I've got great families that
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do a lot of work. We do a lot of variety of
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things. Lots.
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Of work. Look at that.
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And I love the families when they update their photos.
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I mean, it's like, oh, my gosh, yeah, you guys are awesome.
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And I would just pitch them, pitch them, pitch them.
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I'll send an audition notice. But I'll call them every time.
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I have to call them. I said, you know, I call you.
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I said I have to call you because I get as excited as you
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get. I need to hear excitement.
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And your voice is what I need. To do.
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That's awesome. So it's a long Rd. but I was
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going to divorce and and one of my friends, I used to fly agents
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down here from New York and they they were they were friends of
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mine. And Kim Matuka was here one time
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when she was a Schuler talent and she was here and my
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daughters were little and I, I had a in home pet care sitting
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service and I had to leave and go take care of somebody's pets.
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And she was here with my girls. And when I got back, they had
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all the photo albums out. They were showing her all these
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pictures. I said, why are you doing that?
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She said, Bev, bring your kids to New York and that let him
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model for my mom. I said, oh, their dad won't let
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him. She's aren't you going through a
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divorce? I went yeah, she says it's the
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best time to get out of town. And I said, yeah, I guess it is.
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So we went up there for the summer during the OJ trials and
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and they they did a lot of work, but they that wasn't their cup
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of tea. So, you know, they are once a
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nurse with several BA's and my other daughter, she's got her
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masters in architecture and her BA in interior design.
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And they both are very happy with their lives and they've got
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kids. So at that summer that helped me
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a lot because I learned a lot living in South of New York and
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I went to their office a lot too.
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So just to learn inside what they were doing, you know, so I
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would know what to tell people to do and what not to do.
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Well, you have your people on some serious shows.
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I've known almost every show he scrolled by.
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Oh, good. Well, I'm glad.
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Well, booking's going kind of slow right now.
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It's like it's we're kind of AI don't know.
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It's kind of like a yeah, it it, it's just, but it'll break.
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I tell you why. It'll it'll change.
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It's it's very cyclical, like everything in the world is.
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Everything gets real well. But we're doing lots of
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commercials, lots and lots of commercials and they pay really,
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really good. And the people, really so.
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So this is what I want to kind of open the can of worms on
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because I know, I know and I know the, the answer is going to
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be different depending on all different kinds of variables,
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right? With, with commercials and
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things like that, because obviously local ones going to be
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paid different than a national one and it's an international
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one, right? But like I saw when we were
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scrolling, like there's a Family Guy booked for an RV, an RV
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commercial campaign, right? So what?
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So I'm assuming that's something that goes nationwide.
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Yeah, but it's just print. Just for social, just for.
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Social media, everything has got a different price rate on it.
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It also has, I don't like getting commercial people in
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perpetuity, you know? Does that mean maybe one year?
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OK, but. Perpetuity means they can use it
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forever and not pay you any more money.
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OK. Gotcha.
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And you don't, I don't, I don't really don't like in perpetuity
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because and sometimes they will do something I'll say from one
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year usage and then the second year negotiated again at this
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rate. Now I'll do that.
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That's it. But sometimes in perpetuity pays
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so much, you know, they're not going to keep it forever because
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you know, makeup changes, hairstyles change, clothing
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changes, stuff changes. But so they'll use it for a
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while as long as it looks pertinent to life, life, life,
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life that I try not to. But most of our commercials,
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they pay decent when that people starting out, they don't mind
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making a lot of money. So they just build their resume.
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But as they stay with me, it's like people will contact me.
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Hey Bev, can we have so and so on this commercial?
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I said send me the information and I'll like I had someone
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today just I didn't know who he was.
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Reach out through my website. I don't know.
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It's it's down and they're going to shoot down in Wilmington.
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I thought, Oh yeah, I've got people down there.
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They're going to shoot this and this will be great.
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But it has to be not union. It's non union.
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It's commercials that are not sag.
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You can't have sag people in and you can have non union and sag
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though. Gotcha.
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Yeah, it's really kind of strange.
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Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah.
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That's the way it. Works.
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That's the way it works. Who's the biggest person you've
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ever you've ever worked with? The largest?
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The biggest star, let's say. I got lots of I.
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Figured she did. I have lots of big ones.
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John Bianco is the big actor he was.
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He was a recurring principal character in in The Sopranos and
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several other things. Travis has been in a lot of
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westerns. Elkhorn just wrapped and he was
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two seasons. I'm not sure about the third
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season yet, but I've had a lot of a lot of big films.
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Gerard Cordero has been in a lot of big films and it been London
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that shot in London, he said. He, I mean, I have lots of other
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people too. I meant that and my brain is
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just kind of stopped. So.
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So here's another question off that little tidbit.
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So Gerard, we'll just talk about him.
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So he gets a gig, he's going over to London to shoot.
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So when an actor gets hired for a movie like that and they have
20:14
to go overseas, are they paying for the airfare, the lodging,
20:18
things like that, or is that something that's wrapped up in
20:19
the contract? I'll tell you something, people,
20:23
people have to really, really want this business.
20:27
They want it. A guy don't want to do it.
20:29
When he got that gig, it was going to shoot in New York and
20:32
in Luck and Javier Bardem in it, that's what that's who was in
20:36
it, that's who he was starring, That's Harvey.
20:39
Anyway, they said they wouldn't couldn't cover airfare to
20:43
London. He said I don't care, I'll be in
20:45
the ceiling, I'll fly myself. This was back a little bit back.
20:50
It was 350 round trip on the way.
20:52
That's why I said he said I'll pay for it.
20:54
So I told the director, I said he'll pay for his own flight and
20:57
his housing is not no problem. They were so impressed that he
21:01
would do go that far that they've covered everything.
21:05
Nice. So, and I do get, I do work that
21:09
hard to get people. I had a girl that was the lead,
21:13
was supporting lead. She should have been the lead,
21:15
but it was supporting. It was she had the most dialogue
21:17
of anybody in the film and it was a great little story.
21:21
And it was shooting in another state and she lived in another
21:24
state. So but they didn't cover housing
21:26
and travel. But where she was going, the
21:28
hotel are so expensive. And she was going to shoot 30
21:30
days. And I called casting director
21:34
who's a lovely person. I said she can't cover that cost
21:38
$300 a night. It'll just completely destroy
21:40
what she's making. And I told her the story behind
21:43
everything. Hang on, I'm going to call the
21:46
director. He loves to cover the ghost and
21:50
you know he did covered everything.
21:52
That's my SO. You just, yeah, you just have
21:54
to. You got to do your thing.
21:55
Beverly's got to do her thing. That's right.
21:58
That's right. Get that Southern woman getting
22:00
there. Get.
22:01
Get. I know people go.
22:03
One of my photographers, he used to say he goes, yeah, what do
22:06
you copy? But do you wrong?
22:07
I said, I don't know what you're talking about because, oh, come
22:09
on, you know, he said dirty dog. He said that's it.
22:12
That dirty dog, PAWG, that dirty dog.
22:17
But I don't deal with those dirty dogs afterwards.
22:18
But I, I really have really nice people I deal with.
22:21
I'm, I'm very, very blessed and I have had some people that
22:25
weren't so nice, of course. But overall, I'd say 95% of my
22:30
dealings with anybody has been really good.
22:33
Yeah, well. And.
22:36
So your industry obviously, because my, my industry aside
22:39
from this is I sell houses and so being in real estate, it's a
22:42
relationship industry, communication, talking to
22:44
people, that kind of stuff. You got to be an extrovert.
22:46
So in your world, I'm assuming, like you said, called the
22:49
casting director who didn't talk to the director and you know,
22:51
let's get this covered. So you're, you're probably
22:54
heavily in relationship mode with all the different pieces of
22:57
all the different films going back to your original story
23:00
about you sat in a theater and watched everybody.
23:02
It was a part of that production.
23:03
Because if people don't do that, most people don't, right?
23:06
Because everything streams now. You just skip it.
23:08
It goes forever. There's some shows that have 10
23:11
minutes of credits now. Crazy.
23:14
It's crazy. Yeah.
23:15
When you get it, it's like I, I make it my, I try to call
23:20
casting directors who I've known for years and even some of you
23:23
people, I don't know if they, they post their, their numbers
23:27
and some don't or some don't post and then with their emails.
23:29
So I e-mail them. I said I'd love to have a chat
23:30
with you if you have a moment. And I do that to a lot of
23:33
people, a lot of producers and directors.
23:36
Well, here's here's an. Easy way to explain what you're
23:39
doing, Beverly, because most people listening right now,
23:42
Chris and I understand what you're talking about.
23:44
Most people listening right now, my mother included, is going, I
23:48
have no idea what this woman does.
23:49
So somebody comes to Beverly, they're a semi big star.
23:53
You're going to get them a role on a show.
23:56
I'm that person. How do you do that?
23:58
Explain to people what you do from start to finish.
24:01
Well, I tell them, I said. And they don't have to even be
24:04
a. Big star, you just have a
24:06
nobody. You have a no.
24:07
I come to you and say, Beverly, I want to be on TV.
24:09
What do I need to do? Yeah, well, you're going to have
24:12
to wait 10 years before you get that first TV, OK?
24:14
Probably because you really need 4 to 5 costar credits to get a
24:20
guest star role. A guest star is a big role, big
24:23
pain. But you know, you have to work
24:26
up the ladder. You just have to, I mean, do
24:29
student films, do independent films, put yourself out there,
24:33
get some clips, get some, get some projects for yourself.
24:36
I tell everybody the same thing. Yeah, OK.
24:38
Your photos, your photos suck. I mean, we got to get some
24:40
photos. And I'm very nice about it,
24:43
though. I said, well, my Mama took
24:45
those. I said, well, we don't want we
24:46
don't want Mama photos. And I, Mama loves you no matter
24:49
what kind of photos you have. So I no, I don't want backyard
24:52
Mama photos. That's where I call.
24:54
And I said. I'm.
24:56
Scared find out don't shoot on your cell phone.
24:58
Tell me they're they're they're professional because I can tell
25:01
the difference so and then after casting writers, I want to see a
25:05
snapshot to make sure they look like their photo and that
25:08
happens a lot. So it happened to one of my
25:10
families who got a huge job last last locked and when the guy
25:15
that was casting away, he said, now at Bev, you know, I've seen
25:18
those kids like for two or three years straight and they don't
25:20
look that way. I said, Oh yeah.
25:22
I said, I he said, can we get some snaps?
25:24
I said we did. I got him some steps and I and
25:26
they booked right away. Nice Parents don't change as
25:29
fast as kids do Kids they need every year because your children
25:34
to work, you need to update their photos.
25:36
And I say, all right, that's what you need to do.
25:39
I've got a contract. You signed the contract.
25:40
You want to talk about the contract, We'll talk about the
25:42
contract. Fill out town info sheet.
25:44
And when you get your first booking, which I'll submit you
25:47
for it, but you can also submit too because you get on actors
25:51
access. And I tell everybody to pay the
25:53
$69.00 for the whole year. So it doesn't cost you to
25:56
submit, cost you to get sides or should upload your audition.
26:00
So that 69 bucks will be gone in three weeks if you've already
26:03
submitted yourself. Gotcha.
26:05
Just because you get does not mean you need to stop submitting
26:07
yourself because you're working as a team.
26:09
Then it'd be Team Chris or team like, OK, who was your teammate?
26:14
Beverly Brock. OK.
26:15
And then, you know, it helps. It helps.
26:18
And so you just can't sit there and wait for something to drop
26:20
in your laps. I tell everybody my guideline
26:22
sheet, contact me every two weeks by e-mail or phone,
26:26
whichever, to let me know, you know, if you have questions.
26:29
What have you done? Have you taken any classes with
26:31
anybody? Any casting directors online?
26:33
I didn't know who they are. So when I submit you, I'll
26:35
submit the notes, and I have notes for everybody.
26:39
And on that, there's access. I have folders where everybody
26:41
lives and I have photos where they can work local.
26:44
So and my assistant in New Yorker, she does, she sees the
26:48
same thing that I'm submitting for.
26:50
She can submit to she can see them in the folders.
26:52
And who speaks multiple languages?
26:53
Who's strong out that can go out for guest star roles.
26:56
OK. And who's just starting out?
26:58
And you go out for Co * roles, which Co star roles are great.
27:00
I mean, they're they're not. And in the Pooh Pooh that there
27:02
may be one line, 2 lines, but you're giving that Co star
27:05
credit and you're working on this with people, director,
27:08
producers, other actors. So it's just building your
27:11
credits and building your resume so you can get that guest star
27:15
role. Because I tell you, I'd read
27:16
about the people who had that are big now.
27:19
Yeah, Guy who plays on Chicago PD, what's his name?
27:22
He plays Hank Floyd. I don't.
27:25
Know I don't watch that show. Oh, I love that show.
27:28
What are you talking about? You know who he is it it was 10
27:33
or 10 or 15 years for him to get his first big break.
27:36
Well, that's right. And Harrison Ford, same thing.
27:40
One liners on Gunsmoke. My mom used to watch Gunsmoke
27:43
all the time. My mom still does.
27:46
My mom still does. I know, I know, he was always on
27:50
it. Yes boss or yes Sir or one
27:53
liner, just one liners, but that's how he got so he loved it
27:58
and he brought as a Carpenter on the side.
28:00
You have to read about those people and see it takes that
28:04
drive. You've got to have that desire.
28:07
You got to have that that burning in your soul.
28:09
I mean, I don't say it's business because I make a lot of
28:11
money. I tell you because it's hard.
28:14
It's just hard. I mean, I work from 7:00 AM and
28:18
I get up and start checking e-mail right away.
28:20
I don't respond until 9:00 because I don't want people to
28:22
start responding to me. I'm going to go through
28:24
everything or do invoicing stuff because I do most of my work
28:28
because I had been burned before.
28:31
So I did my invoicing. I interview my talent.
28:35
What is your great talent, Mike? What is your great talent?
28:37
What do you want to be? What do you want to do?
28:38
That's what I ask. Everybody.
28:39
I play guitar. OK.
28:41
For like 40 years. OK, 40 years or 40 years?
28:46
40. Oh wow.
28:48
See, one of my guys is a big guitars too, and he's up for a
28:50
huge commercial right now. Big commercial.
28:54
He was on an Eliquis commercial that was nationwide Sagnell
28:57
Eloquis commercial and he was a league guitarist in there It it
29:01
was fun. He's I love it.
29:02
My phone Dings. That means Bev is sending me a
29:04
residual check and they get their money fast.
29:09
So it's just when I interview them like I asked, I want the
29:12
kids to be able to talk to me too.
29:14
Parents go, do you need the kids too?
29:15
Now the kids are three, As long as they can say their name and
29:19
say how old they are, where they live, that's pretty much it's
29:22
like about a look with kids. Now, kids that are older, 8 and
29:26
up, they should be able to communicate with me when I ask
29:29
them questions. What do you like to do in
29:30
school? How good are you in school?
29:32
Do you like going to school? Do you like your friends?
29:34
What do you like to do besides go to school?
29:36
I know I want to know things about everybody because that's
29:39
what I feel like sets me apart for everybody.
29:41
I know personally one-on-one what people like, because people
29:46
that casting writers will call me and ask me, can we get him
29:49
again? You know, didn't he said he's he
29:51
plays, he plays African drums, right?
29:53
I said, yeah, he does. How did you remember that?
29:55
I said, well, we remembered it because it's on his on his
29:57
resume. So that kind of stuff I tell
30:00
everybody, stay steady. Stay with one agent.
30:03
Don't jump around you. Jump around.
30:06
You look inconsistent and like you, you're, you know it's going
30:10
to get more. You're going to get three or
30:12
four or five agents. That's too many agents, too many
30:14
people, too many hands in the pot, too many people you've got
30:17
to give 10% to. 20% so real quick if they say they love
30:24
Chris, right? How could you not?
30:26
Because I, I find this fascinating and I think other
30:30
people are going to find it fascinating too, because this is
30:32
how these people end up on TV. They call Beverly, they say
30:36
Chris is great. Where's he been all our life,
30:37
right? He should have been a big star
30:39
years ago. We're going to give him this
30:41
guest star role and see how it works out.
30:43
How does that go down as far as what do you do from there as his
30:49
talent agent? They send me a deal memo and I
30:53
have to get it all filled out. I have to get him to sign.
30:57
He has to fill out an I-9 and AW2.
31:00
You got to fill out all those documents because they're going
31:02
to take tax out on you that for a SAG project more than likely.
31:06
And so you have to fill out all those documents and then you
31:09
sign a check authorization because the check will come to
31:11
the Brock agency and care of Chris.
31:13
What's your last? Name Chris Dunham like Jeff
31:16
Dunham the comedian. Chris Dunham Yeah, yeah, yeah,
31:18
yeah. Chris Dunham here at the Brock
31:20
agency and it has to say there on my bank won't let me deposit
31:23
it or at all. And then you would get the deal
31:26
memo And then I have to send his sizes, all of his sizes.
31:29
And I get those from you And then usually I save them.
31:32
So next time you get a book and I'll have it in your folder.
31:35
I have a folder my everybody tells me I have too many emails
31:38
and I know I do. But what do you do when you got
31:41
a lot of people? You got to have a lot of stuff
31:43
anyway. And then I send it to casting.
31:46
I send the deal memo. I send the the information that
31:50
is, is he sag? Is he non union?
31:53
They want to know all that too. And if it's if it's A and now,
31:56
if it's your third job for SAG, you become a must join.
32:01
And so then we work on the deal per SE after that.
32:05
But you get you get to shoot first.
32:07
But if you're not in a New York, they don't make you join before
32:11
you shoot. But sometimes they do, and
32:13
that's just screen. Actors Guild correct for people
32:16
who don't Screen Actors Guild, yes, that's correct.
32:18
We're also talking to people. Who don't understand what we're
32:21
talking about. So it's just like, it's like.
32:24
Equity is is an actor. That's theater.
32:28
I'm a union member too, so I'm. Familiar.
32:30
I just want everybody else to be familiar with what we're talking
32:32
about. You're so smart, Mike.
32:33
I know. You're just so smart.
32:35
He could teach me something. I'll tell you.
32:37
I just try to make each other. I'm sure I.
32:40
Know it'd be awesome. But I have musicians, but I
32:43
don't book gigs anymore for people.
32:44
I just get them commercial work and TV work.
32:46
So I used to book gigs, but that's a lot of work.
32:49
Yeah, we, we live that. We know.
32:51
Oh yeah, it's hard. But I have a lot of great
32:55
musicians and singers and stuff that they can get.
32:57
A lot of commercials are asking for that now.
32:59
So did you watch see the commercials that are dancing and
33:01
stuff? I just say, gosh, it's got a
33:03
commercial and he's dancing in the commercial.
33:05
So I can't wait to see it. That's awesome.
33:08
It'll be awesome. So that's that's what it is.
33:11
It's all paperwork once you book and then you.
33:14
Get. On the production call sheet
33:17
your name will be in there your role will be in there your call
33:21
time will be in there location will be in there and who you can
33:24
reach out in case you have gotten lost going to sit and
33:28
then your wardrobe they provide wardrobe most of them but if
33:31
they use it in your clothes then that you get paid for wardrobe
33:34
oh that's fun yeah that's really cool so sometimes they.
33:39
Want to because they're. Cutting, they're cutting corners
33:40
and they should if if you're playing a businessman, you've
33:42
got suits, you know, you can use your own stuff.
33:45
A lot of that you can tell a lot that use their own things.
33:47
They feel really, they look really comfortable in their
33:49
clothes. And then once you get to set
33:52
you, you have a voucher that you sign when you go to set, you
33:56
have to sign it. And I'll tell you how to sign it
33:59
and fill it out because the voucher is generally something
34:02
that that keeps track of your pay and goes the payroll system.
34:07
And if you, if you get say, say you want to start out doing
34:10
extra work because you've never done the learn set protocol
34:14
actually should basically background people.
34:16
But when you go, when you go, because there has to be
34:19
background people and everything, everything.
34:22
Yeah, and everything. And so starting out as a
34:24
background person is good because you learn set protocol
34:28
when keep your mouth shut, don't talk, you know, and don't change
34:31
your clothes. I mean, it's so much what to do
34:36
when you're set, as you know and you don't talk and you don't try
34:39
to ask for his autograph. You don't do any of that stuff.
34:42
You have to remember when you're on set, you're trying to learn
34:45
what to do. You just kind of blend in.
34:47
Isn't that what that? Sam Wah that we had on, she was
34:50
that in the Spider Man movie, right?
34:52
She was a extra background person.
34:54
Superman. Yeah, I think it was.
34:58
Yeah. It was Superman.
34:59
It was right before Yeah, Superman, But yeah, that's what
35:01
she was. She started out extra stuff and
35:02
then kind of worked her way into like, you know, that kind of
35:05
stuff. Yeah, sure, if you worked your
35:07
way up the ladder. People know your face, they know
35:09
who you are. One of my women went to do
35:13
background for Tulsa King down in Atlanta.
35:15
Awesome, I love that show. Well, she she was so.
35:18
Excited. She called me.
35:19
She says they gave me lines. They gave as soon as you get
35:22
lines. I mean, it's that you have to
35:23
let me know, right? Because you get paid, right?
35:26
That's right. But let me know I don't know I
35:32
had AI had a girl that did as a men in black as an extra too.
35:36
Yup, girl, she's like 12 and and she got lines coming off the
35:41
school bus and her mom tell me a week later and that's way too
35:44
late because you know who's going to corroborate that?
35:48
Maybe they cut it out, maybe they didn't cut it out.
35:50
I don't know. But you have to tell your agent
35:52
immediately because I'll reach out to casting.
35:55
We need a contract. They should offer it on set,
35:58
generally. Sometimes they do, sometimes
35:59
they don't. It's so busy on set.
36:00
They just so covered. OK, that's my OK.
36:04
So you're you're doing a scene. I'm an extra.
36:05
I'm just standing there to direct the size that give me a
36:07
line. These presses are making me
36:09
thirsty, so after I deliver that line, I need to hold on.
36:12
When it Beverly, I just had a line.
36:15
No no, no. You got.
36:16
Once you have a break, can you call?
36:18
OK, OK. You don't call.
36:19
Me, I wanna stand in. Front of everybody else, you
36:22
call me. You gotta make sure, yeah.
36:25
I got. To call my agent right now.
36:29
Yeah, then we both make money. I don't make a 10%, but you make
36:32
good money and then get residuals.
36:34
If you're talking in a sad project, you'll get residuals.
36:37
So you got to think about it. Do I want to make money?
36:39
Do I not want to make money? I better call.
36:41
I'll call her tomorrow. Yeah.
36:45
I don't think I would ever forget if I.
36:47
Have a sudden didn't have a line and I got a line because right
36:49
there, you know, I know enough about acting from, you know, way
36:52
back when, been there done that stuff that once you got a line,
36:55
you're getting paid. Whether it's whether the line is
36:57
like hello or whether the line is this puzzle's making me
37:01
thirsty, It's still a line regardless of the length of
37:04
words that you say. Yeah.
37:07
One more on the line now if you get 3.
37:08
If you're in three movies, correct me if I'm wrong. 3
37:10
movies, 3 projects, whatever, and you have lines in all three
37:13
of them like you alluded to earlier.
37:15
Then that's when you have to join SAG.
37:18
That's when you're a must. Join and and they'll tell,
37:21
they'll send us a letter and say you're a must join and then,
37:25
then you can follow the protocol to join.
37:28
Now this, I think we get a discount on SAG in North
37:31
Carolina and maybe in South Carolina too.
37:33
I'm not sure about South Carolina, but I think we get a
37:35
discount on SAG here. And joining SAG does not
37:39
necessarily mean you're going to get more work.
37:42
It doesn't mean it's just. The union and and I and I like
37:47
them a lot, but if you join SAG and you're not that well known
37:51
yet, you may not be working for a bid because there's so much
37:54
non union stuff. You have to weigh the.
37:57
Odds. But if you're a must join and
37:59
you want to move ahead, you need to really do the stuff you got
38:02
to do the steps. So do you not make any money?
38:04
Non. Union.
38:06
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
38:07
But you don't get, you don't get reschedules.
38:08
I got you. The only thing you.
38:10
Do get is they say you did Mott's applesauce and they were
38:16
going to use it for one year for $1000 or $2000 and then they're
38:21
going to buy now to use it another year if it was
38:24
successful. That happens all the time.
38:26
OK, OK. And then you have to watch it
38:29
because I had a guy in a commercial and I would they
38:32
never told us it was running again.
38:34
And he said my mom and dad saw it on TV.
38:37
So I called up the company. I said, hey, that's one thing
38:40
again, you know, we need you need to pay us some money.
38:42
That happened 8 * 8 times. Wow, why don't?
38:46
You just pay him 30,000. Dollars and you can use as long
38:48
as you want to. He says no, I didn't want to.
38:50
I said you probably paid us that much money already.
38:52
I said it. And I said just that way no one
38:55
be forgetting anything. And he said whatever you want to
38:59
do, we'll see it. That's fine.
39:00
And people are easy to work with.
39:02
And you know what? As long as you're easy to work
39:05
with, yeah, they're going to be easy to work with.
39:07
I found that in the music business.
39:09
As well. Yeah, just just be nice.
39:11
Just be kind. Yeah, just be.
39:13
Kind. That's right.
39:14
You want to treat others the way you want to be treated.
39:16
That's what you expect. See.
39:18
See. You're from.
39:18
This you're from like, you know, North Carolina.
39:21
So you get the yes ma'am, yes, Sir, you know, please and thank
39:24
yous that you know, I, I do that all the time in my business.
39:27
And I get shit from people like, dude, I'm not, I'm not your
39:30
grandmother. I'm like, well, it's just a
39:31
respect thing. That's just, you know, yes,
39:32
ma'am, yes, Sir. I'm sorry.
39:34
My bad. I'll just call you Beverly now.
39:36
Sorry, but it's, it's, but a lot of it, it's you don't hear that
39:40
very much anymore. You know, at least in my word, a
39:42
lot of my actors call me Miss. Rock, they will not call me by
39:45
my first name. And most of the most of them,
39:47
guess what they are what? They've been military.
39:51
Yeah, that's. Exactly right.
39:54
Every single one of them, not everybody, but I'd say 9 out of
39:58
10 had been military and that and they were raised around
40:02
here. You know, one of them was into
40:03
Washington, but most of them had been around here.
40:06
And they said that's the way I was raised, Miss Brock, and
40:08
that's the way I was raising the military, too.
40:11
OK, It never worked for you. Now I have others that call me
40:13
boss. They call me I'll Hefe.
40:17
And I said, what are you saying? What he said, no, no, it's boss.
40:21
I went OK. But I have a lot of great talent
40:26
and they're, they've good, good personalities, funny.
40:31
And the ones who leave always regret it just about every time.
40:35
Because I, I work hard for people and when I decide they
40:38
want to exit for whatever reason, I said once you leave
40:41
the door, you cannot. Oh, you're like the mob.
40:44
Yeah, I'm. Not going to.
40:49
That was a bad analogy now, So what's a good analysis?
40:53
Which in the best way possible, Yeah, there you go.
40:55
So with all the talent. That you've had over the years
40:57
doing this. Have you ever had anybody win
40:59
awards? Oh yeah, yeah.
41:02
Dane Morgan's won bunch of awards.
41:03
He's a writer and a comedian. He's doing shows right now all
41:08
across the South and Southwest. Yeah, Southwest and in LA, too.
41:12
He'll be coming out to North Carolina soon.
41:14
He's he's hilarious. Is he a comedian?
41:16
Hilarious. Yes.
41:18
Yes. Yeah.
41:19
OK. You should get Michael Shona.
41:20
Machina, it's not. A machina.
41:22
You need to look him up. OK, Mike loves comedian so.
41:24
You should. You should introduce him to us,
41:26
so you should get him on the show too.
41:28
Michael he'll. Talk your ears up.
41:30
Mike loves have. We've we've had quite a few
41:33
comedians on. It's a blast.
41:35
It's it's just, you know, cuz. So this is, he is so funny.
41:38
Yeah. Yeah, I mean he.
41:39
Didn't act to the future, he. Did not.
41:41
What is it? A light hearted?
41:42
Yeah, yeah. You look him up, it's Dean
41:45
Morgan or Sheldon Mushugen. OK, well, you know, he's Jewish,
41:48
obviously, but it's it's comedian.
41:51
It's a Jewish comedian. It's so funny.
41:53
He is I mean, I just love him and his wife was wonderful too.
41:57
And I mean, and but you know, he's he'd be great on your show.
42:00
He would be. I have so many people that would
42:02
be good on your show. Oh my gosh, there you go.
42:04
Just open the door and see what we like to do is we.
42:08
Showcase the people on our show. So if you if you watch any of
42:12
our episodes, it was probably why we're top three podcast and
42:14
Phoenix for entertainment because everybody comes on we're
42:17
we're promoting while you're on the show.
42:18
We're we're driving people to their to their the band
42:21
websites, whatever they're doing to their shows or the comedians.
42:23
Like it's just constant driving people to our guests.
42:27
It's not about Mike and I. It's about this conversation and
42:29
helping other. Otherwise, we just talk to
42:31
ourselves. Right.
42:32
Which is boring, you know, I mean, it's fun, but it's, you
42:34
know. It's not he gets bored with me.
42:36
It's not It says I can't. Carry tune in a bucket.
42:41
Have you ever had? Have you had somebody win an
42:43
Emmy? I know people have won Emmys.
42:48
OK, my good friend, I'm in Spain, she's won Emmys.
42:52
She's an award. She's an Emmy award-winning
42:56
coach. Cool, we'll give you that one.
42:59
Because I don't know anyone that's won an Emmy.
43:00
I haven't. I don't either.
43:01
Well, no. I no way I take that back.
43:03
I love her, she's awesome. She does.
43:05
She coaches children on, on, on, on, on shows, TV shows.
43:09
She touches children. That's cool.
43:11
Coaches. The show just changed.
43:21
Jerry's finger. Yeah, you are not the father.
43:29
Yeah, she's awesome. And so many wonderful people.
43:32
I can't even begin to make a list.
43:34
It's so she's the one. She's encouraging me to write a
43:38
book, I think. I think a lot of.
43:41
People that that have amazing life that have amazing life
43:44
resonates need to write a book. We had a a guy in a couple weeks
43:47
ago he's he was a friend of mine in local radio market in
43:49
Arizona. Paul Marshall called the Neander
43:51
Paul and he from the East Coast to the West Coast.
43:54
He's been in the in the rock rock'n'roll radio scene for 40
43:58
years. So the.
44:00
Stories that he. Has just the little snippets of
44:03
them are fascinating. And he got he got riffed
44:05
because, you know, radio is radio.
44:07
And so Mike and I were talking to him like, you need to write a
44:09
book, man, just of your memoirs. And he's like, well, you know,
44:12
like, no, like people can live vicariously through someone like
44:16
him because he sat in front of people that, you know, Mike and
44:19
I will never sit in front of now.
44:21
You being who you are and what you've done with your life.
44:24
You've sit in front of some really popular iconic members
44:28
of, of, you know, music and acting and things like that.
44:31
So I think you should, because there's nothing better than
44:34
reading somebody's life resume from a storytelling standpoint.
44:39
I. She's she's told me and she
44:42
might be right. I have a health issue.
44:45
OK. And you know, people, people
44:47
think, and it's not that it doesn't keep me from doing
44:48
anything. Nothing, nothing keeps doing
44:50
anything. Nothing.
44:52
I mean, I believe that I, I, I love what I do and I love my
44:57
grandmother. I love being a mother to my
44:59
kids. I love my family, but when I was
45:03
growing up, I I fell out a car on my head when I was four years
45:06
old because I was lying. Yeah.
45:08
It pulled all my long curly hair.
45:09
I know my curly hair was and not curly anymore is straight.
45:12
And I and my brother didn't know I was gone.
45:16
We arrived. We didn't have you didn't have
45:17
seatbelts back there and carved them all the way down.
45:21
And I was standing on my daddy's toolbox.
45:22
That's why they say never leaving in the back.
45:25
I was on floorboard. It's a stand up.
45:27
And we were going. To get our little dog from the
45:30
vet, but he wasn't ready, so we wouldn't go to an ice cream
45:32
shop. And I yeah, I was sitting on the
45:35
toolbox and I looking out the window and I kept seeing the
45:39
stripes going on the car. I thought, hey, gun, isn't it
45:41
stupid? I mean, kids have their most.
45:44
Their imagination is you're growing and learning.
45:46
And I thought, how can I figure out where they're going?
45:48
I said, I'll tell mom, shug it and I said Mama, the doorstop
45:52
shut down, said well, you scoot away and I'll close it when we
45:54
get to the stuff. Like I thought, hmm, that didn't
45:56
work very good. I remember this even at 4:00, I
45:59
remember when I opened that car door and I looked down under, I
46:03
saw the strike go under the tire and that's the last thing I
46:06
remember. I went all four lanes Rd. all
46:09
the traffic stopped and my brother said, Mama, everything's
46:11
gone. One more, one SEC there I was in
46:15
a ditch, a man was bringing me out of a ditch all bloody and
46:17
banged up and I was in a for five days.
46:19
Wow, so it. Gave.
46:22
Me issue, you know, in my head and so I've told people and I've
46:27
helped people with kids who have epaulette because it we have
46:31
developed epilepsy, but I don't have seizure.
46:33
I'm very grateful. Great thing.
46:35
But I can tell people there are things you can do biofeedback
46:39
something to help you if you're anxious person you learn how to
46:42
breathe. Yeah, biofeedback colleges teach
46:44
it and you do it for free because it's teaching the kids,
46:48
the college students how to help you and they get for the grade.
46:52
So I have been called from the high school, I've been called it
46:56
during classes and stuff. Can you help us some?
46:57
Someone's having a teacher at school, so I'll go help them.
47:00
And people don't know what to do.
47:01
And a lot of lot of people have told me that, you know, their
47:04
kids have developed that. And I said would just, you know,
47:07
make sure they rest a lot, make sure they eat light and keep
47:10
them away from any flashing lights because that is a trigger
47:13
for a lot. Sure, a lot people and that she
47:16
says you need to put that in that book too because you
47:18
overcame a lot and people think they can't overcome something if
47:21
they have a malady. Agreed.
47:22
I said hello. That'll never stop me.
47:25
As far as hopeful, no, but. But she's right though, because.
47:27
What you, what you overcome and then who you become, there's
47:31
part of that overcoming part that builds the character of who
47:34
you are and the drive and the eternal drive.
47:36
So unless you start with when I was four years old down that
47:40
path, you know, and that you know how like I don't know how
47:43
big a fan of you are like Quentin Tarantino's movies and
47:46
stuff, but he never goes in order, right?
47:47
There's always backtracking and flashbacks and things like that,
47:50
which keeps, That's how I that's how I like talking.
47:52
Roy, thank you because it keeps you.
47:53
Engaged and the movies are just all of a sudden, you know, two
47:56
hours is done. It's very entertaining and you
47:59
know, so, but I like that aspect of, of storytelling because you
48:03
go back and forth with the original, with the origin of the
48:07
story of the person, and then you just kind of weave through
48:09
the to the tail and tell your stories along the way.
48:12
I, I think I'd read it. I think it'd be fascinating.
48:14
I like documentary, biography, documentaries.
48:17
I like documentaries. I like autobiographies because I
48:20
like learning about that person's life, You know, where
48:23
you just see somebody on the screen you don't know well, just
48:26
the fact that you started. This journey at 17 years old,
48:29
like you said, that's unheard of today.
48:31
You know, if you went to your mother at 17 now and said here's
48:34
what I'm going to do with my life.
48:36
I didn't ask anybody. I didn't ask, I just.
48:37
Did it. I'm just saying.
48:39
Yeah. These kids today don't have
48:42
enough. Determination to go to work most
48:45
of the time, let alone be that much of an entrepreneur.
48:48
You were seventeen. Yeah, that's crazy.
48:51
I just love. Doing stuff, I really do.
48:53
I'm an artist too. Yeah.
48:55
Not. I'm not just a singer, an art
48:57
and a mom. I also was a painter.
48:59
I, yeah, painted cartoon characters.
49:03
Yeah. Cool.
49:05
I don't. Paint.
49:06
Now I stop. Painting my kids worried because
49:09
my daughters get messing with my paint and but but most of my
49:13
daughter we're typical. I said it's 40 Jimsy.
49:17
I don't know. They work like they both have
49:19
degrees and they both work so hard.
49:21
I'm proud of them. It's hard.
49:25
It's hard. It's no, but it's hard not to be
49:28
led by example when you have a mother who's driven and I don't,
49:31
we don't know you for more than this and our random
49:33
conversations on the phone, text and Instagram.
49:36
But you started coming up my feet a couple years ago for, for
49:39
whatever reason, I have no idea from an algorithm standpoint.
49:42
So I see your stuff and I saw your stuff and then I eventually
49:44
friend requested you and it took you a while, but then you
49:46
friend, you accepted that. So I've, I've seen your stuff
49:48
for years, but the, the, you can't, you can't not see
49:53
somebody's drive even from outside looking in, right?
49:56
You just, you just can't. So I think when children are
49:59
successful, it's because their parents, whether you know it or
50:01
not, you're leading by an example.
50:04
My parents were. Awesome.
50:05
I know mine too. Really awesome.
50:08
I mean, and that was a great mother.
50:10
So there you go. See, there you go.
50:12
Great, grand and a. Great, I'm a great Mama.
50:14
I'm a Mama for my 4 grandchildren.
50:17
That's awesome. I mean, they love me because I
50:18
love them. I don't do anything for but I'm
50:21
working a lot so do as much as I do because it seems like the
50:24
more I do, the more I have to do now.
50:28
Did any of your? Kids get into the get the acting
50:30
bug going to the commercials and TV's and stuff or no my
50:34
daughter. 'S did for a bit when we went to
50:36
move to New York just for a bit. They don't like it.
50:39
They don't like this business. They always work too hard.
50:41
I said, you work too hard. You go on audition calls.
50:44
And then they went in Central Park in the summertime wearing
50:46
sweats in the fall. They said, man, that's all.
50:48
But they had the bands out there.
50:50
You go inside and that was they enjoyed that, but it was, it
50:53
was, it was hot. They're they're not lazy girls
50:56
at all, even when they would look.
50:58
But now my, my grand, one of my grand, two of my grand, both of
51:01
my grandsons have been in a commercial.
51:03
One of them just came up with my food back long time ago, my
51:07
oldest grandson's 16 and back when he was a baby, I didn't
51:10
have a lot of people that lived in Lexington, SC and there's
51:12
some popped up and there was a commercial because I don't, I
51:15
don't believe in nepotism. I think that, but I didn't have
51:18
anybody, you know, I needed a mom and A and a child that was
51:23
three. Well, he's 3 and lazy.
51:26
I told her, I said, I called her.
51:27
I said, Hey, I got a commercial right there in Lexington, SC and
51:30
they happened to go to that pharmacy and they get and I
51:33
said, mommy, you got to tell him when we get there, he can't be
51:35
sitting around waiting because three years old, they don't like
51:37
to wait. Well, those hair artists were
51:39
wonderful, giving him brushes to play with and just just stuff
51:43
and, and that he did that commercial and it ran forever.
51:47
And then my other grandson, he got one.
51:49
I pitched him in a whole packet. I didn't have a lot of babies a
51:52
long time ago, 14 years ago. I have lots of babies now.
51:56
Congratulations. Because he looked at what they
52:06
were looking for. And but my, my granddaughters
52:09
hadn't had that driving desire. They're both real.
52:12
When I was an artist and then a gymnast and she's a singer, She
52:15
sounds like me, you know, I was not a gymnast, but I but she's a
52:19
very good singer and she's a great gymnast and, and tennis
52:22
player. My other granddaughter is just 8
52:25
and she loves horseback riding and she loves doing gymnastics
52:28
and, but she's like everywhere. She's like, she's like, I mean,
52:33
I'm, I'm that way too. I can do a job, start another
52:35
job, start this job. She's job, start the other job
52:38
back. I can just so so you're so
52:40
you're ADHD. I just it's not a bad.
52:49
It's not a bad. Thing it's just because I do, I
52:51
do that. I'll start something and all of
52:53
a sudden there's six things going on and then I, you know,
52:55
wrap them up by the end of the day.
52:56
My wife tells me I'm undiagnosed ADHD and I was like.
52:59
And so finally I'm starting to see things.
53:01
I was cleaning the house last week and I was doing stuff
53:04
inside. Then I noticed the hedges out
53:05
front. I should trim those.
53:07
So then I went outside, take garbage.
53:08
I grabbed my hedge trimmer and I trimmed the hedges.
53:11
And then I came back in and did some more of the floor and
53:12
stuff. And then I got to do the other
53:14
side, you know? So she's like, what you do
53:16
today? And I rattled it off.
53:17
She's like, did you do it all in order?
53:19
I was like, oh, no, I did this and I went and did that.
53:21
And then I saw the garbage and I had the.
53:24
Yeah. And she's like you show.
53:25
ADHD I'm like, OK, you know, whatever works, I like.
53:30
That I've been doing a lot of stuff and do it functionally.
53:33
I don't have to do it in order for anybody.
53:34
It's just for me. Yeah, exactly as long as I get.
53:37
It done. That's all that.
53:38
Matters exactly. Now she'll do that and leave
53:39
Little. Little tornado spots all over
53:41
the house and then the next day I'm cleaning them up, you know,
53:43
because you know, nothing but love.
53:45
We've been together 31 years, so it's, you know, oh, I love you.
53:50
Even though she gives you all the stuff to do, right?
53:52
Well, actually I used to do it. Because she was, she goes, I'm
53:55
self-employed, so she's a school teacher.
53:57
So on Fridays if I'm not doing anything, I just clean the
53:59
house. So then it there's the ghost
54:01
again, there's Chris comes in. You got that?
54:03
There's the ghost again, but then it.
54:05
Just I tell you, it gives her the ability just to hang out on
54:07
on Saturdays and not do housework.
54:09
Let's see if this fixes it. You're a good husband.
54:11
That's what it is. I.
54:12
Try to be and she's A and she's a.
54:13
Good Wife. So where you go, you know that's
54:18
what it takes it. Does what it takes, but the.
54:21
Other thing I do. I call casting directors so I
54:24
can and they say, well, a couple of them said I guess so glad you
54:27
called me. Everyone just emails or they
54:28
text and I said, well, I'm a talker.
54:31
I like to talk. I said, I really like to hear
54:32
someone's voice. I want to talk to them.
54:34
But sometimes people think they're annoying people.
54:37
But I think if they don't, pick up, if they don't.
54:40
Pick up the phone. You know you're not annoying
54:41
them, but if they pick up the phone, then there's your
54:43
conversation, right? There you go.
54:46
Now if some now. Where can people find you if
54:48
they wanted, if they wanted to kind of jump in and, and, and
54:51
become a superstar actor and win or not be your first actor,
54:54
award-winning thespian, Where can they find you?
54:58
You can go to my website, which is the is www.thebrockagency.com
55:03
all lowercase. It's not case if it's the Brock
55:06
Brock agency com and it's that and you can apply.
55:11
There's a talent app, you go across the top of my website and
55:15
there's a talent tab. You're not a client, you're a
55:17
talent. So you apply on talent tab and
55:20
I'll give a notification that you've applied and I'll go look
55:22
at your application. I'm getting ready to send
55:24
notifications out tomorrow to a lot of people that have applied
55:28
that I really love their looks, but I can't see their resume
55:31
with just one foot. I can only see their where
55:33
they're located and their age and a couple of their photos so
55:38
I'd love them. So is this what they would fill
55:40
out? It's.
55:40
Under the it's under the contact form.
55:42
So you go to her website, thebrockagency.com, and you go
55:46
across the top like she said, click the contact button and
55:49
then fill out all your information there, verify you're
55:51
not a robot and then just hit send and then Beverly is going
55:56
to call you and your life's going to change.
55:59
I won't call you. I'll.
56:00
E-mail you? Oh, come on.
56:03
I don't call if. I call everybody, Oh my gosh,
56:07
right This next Wednesday, I have, Oh my God, I've got so
56:10
many wonderful people that meetings.
56:12
I I take a break, you know. I do a.
56:16
Zoom interview when I meet yeah, I do a Zoom new interview and
56:21
it's 30 minutes so you need to be ready.
56:24
I send the contract Natalie information so you have it in
56:27
front of you and you read it meet so you can ask me questions
56:31
and I can ask you questions about yourself and if you have a
56:33
reel, if you have a reel, even if it's a play from school or is
56:37
where you staying at a concert or something.
56:39
Anything that you have that shows that you've done a
56:42
gymnastics, reel, football, anything that shows that you've
56:45
done something in front of people, that's a big that helps
56:48
me. Gotcha.
56:49
That's cool. Right on.
56:51
And you and you'll talk to anybody as as far as age, age
56:55
wise it doesn't matter. I won't under 17.
56:58
I want to. Talk to them because they're not
57:01
of age, but their mom, their dad reaches and I say you've got to
57:04
have your parents reach out. I appreciate your enthusiasm,
57:08
but you're underage, so I have to talk to a parent first.
57:10
But you could be on the call. You can be on the call.
57:13
Talk to me too, the parent, both parents, a parent and me and in
57:16
the town. I need to talk to them first,
57:19
make sure they're not too shy because I told one tell people
57:22
before your child's got to learn to communicate with the others.
57:24
Well, yeah, you got to community.
57:26
You got to be an. Extrovert to be in this world,
57:27
at least in your world. So what's the What's the
57:30
youngest you've ever worked with?
57:34
Infants. OK, And what's the oldest and
57:37
what's? And what's the oldest?
57:40
I I wish I had someone 95, but I don't.
57:43
But I have, I have 70 to 85 S there.
57:46
I watched it for a long time. Yeah, they have.
57:48
That's fantastic. Yeah.
57:50
That's fantastic. Anything.
57:51
Anything else you. Want to share any other
57:53
questions you have for her, Mike, I don't think.
57:55
So, Mike, do you, Oh, Mike, do you have questions for me?
57:59
No, he was. Asking both of us, yeah.
58:01
OK, no, I will link your website to your episode so people can
58:07
check you out from there. If they watch the episode, your
58:09
website, it'll be linked there. Your energy is infectious.
58:13
It is. You're welcome back here anytime
58:14
to tell whatever stories you want.
58:16
This has been amazing. You could come back on when.
58:18
You get one of your one of your bigger guys, bigger actors
58:21
booked on something, Come on, come back and then we could talk
58:24
about what what's coming up for them or come.
58:27
On with them or come. Oh.
58:29
That would be fun. Come on with them.
58:31
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I could do that because
58:35
you're not. I'll tell you about it.
58:36
The longer you stay with somebody, the more they know
58:38
about you. Yeah, 100% agreed.
58:40
Because. When I got it from the other day
58:42
they. Wanted someone that could play a
58:43
guitar so great and they could sing heavy metal.
58:48
I thought, oh Eric Condon, he can do that.
58:50
He is so good. Now you know two more people.
58:53
Right, well, we'd have to fill out the thing.
58:55
You know I said, Mike said. Now you know two more people
58:57
because I was a singer and he's a guitarist.
59:00
But we have we have to fill out the.
59:02
We have to. We have to go.
59:03
Fill out the contact Brock agency and and set up a I can do
59:05
that. I have to set up a zoom and you
59:08
got it right the Brock. Agency.
59:09
Yeah, the Brock agency. You're welcome.
59:11
See real quick before. You do your thing, I.
59:14
Don't change. Contract, the contract stands as
59:17
it is. That's cool, that's good and.
59:19
You should because you've done it for so long.
59:21
People should respect your experience and the fact that
59:24
that you're very good at what you do.
59:26
So what you see is what you get from a contract standpoint.
59:28
I like that, that's why I find. It fascinating.
59:31
I'm glad he asked that question. That you're still willing to
59:34
work with just anybody? What that?
59:37
Green people get work. Yeah, me, I call them green.
59:40
You know, they don't know anything about this, but there's
59:42
so many people who have your. Experience.
59:44
Beverly, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but there's so many people
59:46
that have your experience that they get to your level, that,
59:49
you know, you've worked with some pretty serious people on
59:51
some pretty serious shows. Yeah.
59:53
That they just say I'm not going to mess with those green people
59:57
anymore, right? Oh no, I find that.
59:59
Admirable. Yeah, well.
1:00:00
That's that's goes back to her. Loving what she does and you can
1:00:02
tell. You can see it, you can 100%.
1:00:04
I've felt it. The whole right, And it's hard
1:00:06
to feel that in a. In a in a podcast, but you're
1:00:10
you're you do exude energy. And I'm glad we finally got you
1:00:13
on the show because I really, I was going out with you for a
1:00:15
while. So this was a check.
1:00:16
I know this is this is a bucket list.
1:00:18
I had Beverly Brock on the show and it's.
1:00:21
It's been a blast. Oh.
1:00:22
You've. Got a wonderful day.
1:00:26
Thank you. I got to give a shout.
1:00:28
Out to my buddy Kay Smoove, who's a DJ, and Joliet Nice and
1:00:33
the Yorkville. Area.
1:00:34
I've been telling him I was going to do that forever.
1:00:36
If you're looking for a good DJ around Joliet or Yorkville
1:00:40
called Case Move, there you go, There you go.
1:00:43
He's a good guy, does a great job.
1:00:44
Right on. All right, boys and girls, so.
1:00:47
I'm Chris. He's Mike.
1:00:48
This is Beverly Brock, the brockagency.com.
1:00:50
She's super cool human with an amazing life resume.
1:00:52
I may. I was trying to tell you earlier
1:00:54
when you guys couldn't hear me, I was going to.
1:00:55
I was comparing you to Crystal Gayle.
1:00:57
You kind of. You remember Crystal Gayle?
1:00:58
Loretta. OK, OK, OK there.
1:01:01
You go. I could totally.
1:01:02
See that for people that know who crystal.
1:01:05
Gayle is Crystal. Gayle is Lynn, Loretta Lynn's
1:01:07
sister, who's famous? You don't know.
1:01:09
How dare you, right? Long straight here.
1:01:11
I did too. Yeah.
1:01:12
I wanted long as I wore a a fall.
1:01:15
The falls were just and I was it was a family show at my
1:01:18
daughter's school, elementary, and I was up there.
1:01:21
I forget the song, but I was just singing it away.
1:01:24
I I would flip the hair and when I flipped it, the fall came off
1:01:27
and came running. That was suck for money.
1:01:34
Wow, that's amazing. That's awesome.
1:01:37
All right, again, now, I don't know how you could be depressed
1:01:39
after watching this show, but if you are feeling suicidal
1:01:41
depressed, don't do it. You know, go, go scream in a
1:01:43
pillow, go journal, go outside, go for a run, go workout, go
1:01:46
find somebody to talk to. If you cannot find somebody to
1:01:49
talk to, you can text 988. Somebody's standing by right now
1:01:51
to help talk you off that Cliff, get you off that ledge.
1:01:54
Tomorrow is a better world with you in it.
1:01:56
So don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because
1:01:58
you decide to leave the world when you shouldn't.
1:02:00
For Chris and Mike, this is Chris.
1:02:01
That's Mike. And for Beverly Brock, we
1:02:03
appreciate you all taking time with us.
1:02:04
Until next episode, we'll see you.
1:02:07
Love you, brother. Love you, Beverly.
1:02:09
Thanks for your time. Thank you, Beverly.
1:02:11
Love you guys too. So much thank you.
1:02:30
This is the place where you will go behind your eyes.
1:02:43
Take a moment, look until you see him fight your bail.
1:02:55
That you boss wheel fight your bail.
1:04:06
Come down here, we haven't found
1:04:24
solids in the sand. You just won't fight him.
1:04:29
Wait for the dead. Or when he's closer out there
1:04:32
and put in the wind. You ain't no creature.
1:04:37
We'll play inspire. And you took your grin on the
1:04:41
almighty day. You've got a dream.
1:04:46
Who in your life to keep our soul in every man.
1:04:52
Take the trip behind your eyes. Feel the soul that worship now.
1:04:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:05:09
Take a moment. We can see you.
1:05:13
You gotta. You
1:05:42
gotta. You gotta, you gotta.