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2024 Best of Club 520: Derrick Rose on NBA retirement, Bulls MVP season, scoring 50 with T'Wolves · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, we're back another episode of Club five to
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  Speaker 1: a legend, legend, legend, legend, and to build a class
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  Speaker 1: at seven crazy how it all lined up. We're here
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  Speaker 1: for a reason. We're gonna introduce him last though. To
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  Speaker 1: my far left, we got my dog Bis should be
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  Speaker 1: hearing out the prail LEAs how you are nasty.
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  Speaker 4: Cool and nasty. Baby. Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: You got your one PTO that year.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you shot out to b Swift legend holding
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  Speaker 1: it down for forty two.
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  Speaker 2: Dug my dog here, but I'm glad you pulled back
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  Speaker 2: up to work. My boy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm back, I'm bag. Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Brod were always know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've been a lot of places, especially you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from the shot those shoes over here,
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  Speaker 1: you see the black forces with the white licens. When
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  Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying. You the crib and
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  Speaker 1: you see those what's the first thing to come to
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  Speaker 1: your mind?
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you Jack jacking something.
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  Speaker 4: Watch out, bro, I don't steal, I heal your wallet.
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  Speaker 2: The white laces is crazy, So you'll call me a skamer.
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  Speaker 2: You said you showing it? You alrea'y talking about the nagery.
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  Speaker 2: You might might be a lineage on It's about right
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  Speaker 2: my dog young not show young.
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  Speaker 1: Tig how you are man, I'm chilling, man, I'm geeked.
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  Speaker 1: Know how I feel about O seven and now we
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  Speaker 1: got my dog in the building. It's about to be
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  Speaker 1: a great Now. I'm gonna let you do the honest introducing.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, listen, it's very rarely to everybody. We
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  Speaker 1: had that one person on our list, you know when
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: we start this podcast, like who we wanted on this show?
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  Speaker 1: It was this man right here, legend our con youngest
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  Speaker 1: m v P wanted the best to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Your favorite Hooper's favorite Hooper. We got d Rose, Derrick
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  Speaker 2: Rose in the building.
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  Speaker 5: Appreciate you pulling up, big dogs, love man, man have
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  Speaker 5: to pull up Midwest ship.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Like I said, but we all be fanned out
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  Speaker 1: different souff. But when we found out that shot rock
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  Speaker 1: with the show, but that meant a lot to us
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  Speaker 1: about for real, for real bro.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course me, my son and my team, uh
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  Speaker 5: Random and Maddie. They told me about it to the squad.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, right when the idea came up, I had
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  Speaker 5: to pull up. And with it being so close to Chicago,
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  Speaker 5: so the.
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  Speaker 4: Niggas got your cater bro listen door days to beat up.
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  Speaker 1: I usual, I'll usually holder somebody some but we was like,
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  Speaker 1: freaking I told you, boy, you might be a cater
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  Speaker 1: first boy fall shout to chef. Y'all went crazy for
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  Speaker 1: this episode. Man, I gotta say some before we really start.
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  Speaker 1: But my dog Mike, Mike is our guy behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 1: But they know freaking Mike the podcast. He told me
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  Speaker 1: I don't get excited about too many that's bro.
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  Speaker 2: I said, what freak might put on the whole outfit
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  Speaker 2: and he took his mood off.
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  Speaker 6: He put the freshoes on.
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  Speaker 2: He lent you're different. I respect them. You can't even
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  Speaker 2: say that, niggas some rolls.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to freaking Miif for hold it down. Man,
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  Speaker 1: But listen, man, we are honored that you were here.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Man, we just got to start with it. My heart
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  Speaker 2: felt over.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy, man, I want to say, Man, shout
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  Speaker 1: out to you and the team.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best rollosts I have ever seen. Wow
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  Speaker 1: for rel Fred, just the way that she went through everything.
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  Speaker 1: And we were joking with Tig about this. We were
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  Speaker 1: just like De roll such a legend. He the only
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  Speaker 1: person who could send another de Rosa and nobody think
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  Speaker 1: none knows of it.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody have a unybody what what like? No, that's
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  Speaker 2: de row Bro. It's the reason for that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad it came with a note got a lots
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  Speaker 4: in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I was nervous at the card.
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  Speaker 1: So it's crazy because the week before I have bought
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  Speaker 1: my wife some roses and put them on there so
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  Speaker 1: they died or whatever. So she sent me a picture
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  Speaker 1: of them. I'm like, damn, she didn't buy her all rolls.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I would have got them, and she
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  Speaker 1: was like, fool read the note.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh so it was love bro.
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  Speaker 5: Me and my team we decided to like just come
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  Speaker 5: up with something different, you know, like, uh, we did
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  Speaker 5: that within like two weeks, randoming Maddie, numerous around Maddie, uh,
• 5:38
  Speaker 5: standing up late, going over ship to the day before,
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  Speaker 5: stand up to three o'clock in the morning to send
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  Speaker 5: out the post, making sure you got your eyes cross
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  Speaker 5: your t's. But this whole ship was about like just
• 5:51
  Speaker 5: giving back or just flipping everything on his head, where
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  Speaker 5: normally when you do do something like this, uh, you
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  Speaker 5: receive the flowers. But I didn't get here by myself,
• 6:01
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I got here with Rando.
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  Speaker 5: I've been knowing him since sixth grade. I've been a
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  Speaker 5: Mattie since for ten plus years now. And my team
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  Speaker 5: it's the same thing. It's sixth grade and that's something
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  Speaker 5: that we built. We're building the empire right now, but
• 6:15
  Speaker 5: just doing the right way, trying to do it with
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  Speaker 5: class and just showing a lot of love and support
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  Speaker 5: to all the fans.
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  Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate that. I know, you know, for you
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  Speaker 1: you can speak on this you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Class all seven, you know what I'm saying. Career, You
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  Speaker 1: know this time? How was that? Like that moment you
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: was like all right, you know, I'm gonna see what
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  Speaker 1: the other side might be for a second. See, my
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: retirement was a little different. It was kind of because
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: of injury, but I just knew it was my time
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  Speaker 1: was up. I wanted to ask you, like when did
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  Speaker 1: you know you were done playing? Like what made you
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  Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I'm gonna hang it up? Because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, to me watching you annoying you, I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: he could play forever. I just think you had that ability.
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  Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, what made you want to hang
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  Speaker 1: it up?
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  Speaker 5: Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, bro.
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  Speaker 5: But well I was just telling you in the room,
• 7:05
  Speaker 5: or telling y'all in the room about like like give
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  Speaker 5: me your all to your kids. Like my younger kids,
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  Speaker 5: they don't mention the game at all. They don't say
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  Speaker 5: they don't ask about are we going to the game?
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  Speaker 5: They don't say nothing.
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  Speaker 6: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: So with PJ, I have to talk to him a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different.
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  Speaker 5: So before I even talked to everybody we in the room,
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  Speaker 5: it's me and him just talking and before then, I'm
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  Speaker 5: thinking the whole time, my damn won't gonna have this
• 7:33
  Speaker 5: conversation with him, right. So we're talking and he brings
• 7:36
  Speaker 5: up Kanye then and we was just in the room
• 7:39
  Speaker 5: talking bell Mello. So I'm like, ah, it's time. I'm like,
• 7:42
  Speaker 5: come downstairs. He come downstairs. I'm like, bro, how you
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: think he got better? He was like, he's working out
• 7:47
  Speaker 5: with a trainer. I'm like, who else in the Gym's
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  Speaker 5: his dad?
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  Speaker 2: Like his dad? Huh?
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  Speaker 5: Like his dad president. I'm like, you think Melloon't got
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  Speaker 5: nothing to do with that? He was like yeah. But
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  Speaker 5: after I kept talking. At first, when I told him,
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  Speaker 5: of course devastated, hurt. But after I kept talking to him,
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  Speaker 5: he was excited because he's seen, like, man, now I
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  Speaker 5: get this individual time with my dad and like my son,
• 8:18
  Speaker 5: he know exactly where he's at right now, like this moment,
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  Speaker 5: he knows exactly where he's at. So for me to
• 8:25
  Speaker 5: tell him that, for him to be like sad at
• 8:27
  Speaker 5: first and be excited, and since that day it's been nothing, beloved,
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  Speaker 5: But I knew right like sometime since since like last year,
• 8:36
  Speaker 5: I'm going through it. You know, you go through the rehabs.
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  Speaker 5: You're the only one that's going through that shit, bro,
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  Speaker 5: Like nobody else, your family members, nobody else's staff, nobody
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  Speaker 5: going through it but you. So I'm like, man, you
• 8:51
  Speaker 5: have the question of like what the fuck am I doing?
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  Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, give him all Like
• 8:57
  Speaker 5: it's cool, But I want to be able to elevate too,
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: show growth. And that's one of the reasons why I
• 9:03
  Speaker 5: came on here because I wanted to tell my stories
• 9:07
  Speaker 5: and to be able to articulate myself and show people
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: to growth from when I first came to the league
• 9:12
  Speaker 5: to now with me being a grown as well. That's
• 9:16
  Speaker 5: real broact And like you said, like that the influence,
• 9:20
  Speaker 5: especially at this age is so impressionable with kids growing
• 9:22
  Speaker 5: up so fast, being exposed to so much. And we
• 9:24
  Speaker 5: were talking like in a room like you know what
• 9:25
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, shout out to pop t like having yall
• 9:27
  Speaker 5: energy early on having like you said.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: It does make a difference.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: No facts for facts, But I wanted to make sure
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: that we clarify that, like you decided to retire, not
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: that anything else like situation with Memphis, if you won't
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: speak on it, Yeah.
• 9:44
  Speaker 5: I mean even with that, I really didn't want to
• 9:48
  Speaker 5: speak on it. But people thought that, like they waived me.
• 9:50
  Speaker 5: That's just the process of them trying to, I guess,
• 9:53
  Speaker 5: do business or figure out the numbers on the back end,
• 9:56
  Speaker 5: in which that has nothing to do with me. But
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: what I can control this what I did. I reached
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: out to Zach Pryor, I reached out to my team,
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: reached out to everyone prior and told them, reached out
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: to Adidas so that everybody's on the same accord. And yeah,
• 10:12
  Speaker 5: just doing good business. That's something that I always did
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: throughout my whole career. Even though I fucked up in
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: the beginning by having some lessons I had to learn.
• 10:22
  Speaker 5: I got through that, and I'm all always been optimistic, bro.
• 10:28
  Speaker 5: As long as I got my breath. Bro, I'm always
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: gonna give my I know, I got a chance, and
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: I feel like that way about anybody around me, So like, yeah,
• 10:38
  Speaker 5: give them all, and you know, just paying attention to
• 10:41
  Speaker 5: where I'm at this time for sure.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: No, listen, man, we're gonna talk about the career we
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: got to talk about the first time y'all met.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: We got to talk about that. I'll be waiting for this.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Quick thirty listen first time man right it before I
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: was even like in thirty because I did kill him.
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: No word, get that.
• 11:03
  Speaker 6: Get to that.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that. We get to that. But I
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: seen him in eighth grade, going to eighth grade.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: He played for a team called Ferrari and it was
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: a team called Houston Hoops. We in the gas station
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: and they like you good, but they just talking to us,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: like he not you nice?
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: This dude nice? But you ever seen Derrick Rose? I'm like,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: who that? And your name?
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Like your name sound fake like Derrick Rose, Like you
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: don't hear nobody's last name road like instead of jay
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  Speaker 1: Len Rose.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, he called, like they call him the
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  Speaker 2: Rose he called.
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  Speaker 1: So we go to the game, y'all happened to be
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: playing a team from Memphis. It was just a Memphis
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Magic boom. You remember that, right, Memphis Magic.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. I remember that. I do.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: you alive, and you went, you ain't dunky, You just
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: finger rolled it in And I said, oh ship, ain't
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: nobody else doing that? And they had one dude, they
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: might have beat you off. Yeah, I would say they
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: might have beat you. I had one dude that was cooking.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the Georgia Georgia tech. I forgot his name,
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  Speaker 1: Mae Miller. Yeah there, Yes, he had a good game.
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  Speaker 1: He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that nigga different, like this nigga killing,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: but that nigga moving faster, jumping harder than everybody. And
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: my dad was like, we're gonna be reading about him.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Ye you know, my dad, yo, can be reading about him.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: He ain't supposed to be on this team. He was like, he, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know me, he older, gave you to me.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? They like? Yo? You you
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of months older than him?
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: What the happy belated too? Yeah?
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: For sure?
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: About Mike Bru and USA, we played sixteen or seventeen USA. Yeah,
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: he my roommate his he. I had to look at
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: his I D. His I D was on the table
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: right he left the room. I'm like, he's so good, bro,
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: I gotta see if you your I looked at his
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  Speaker 5: I D.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. He was younger. Who younger than us?
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Bro?
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  Speaker 2: Cold Bro, I'm like you this cold shout out to
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  Speaker 2: Mike Man. Fact, keep your head up, nigga.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: That's when I first met he played for I'm not
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  Speaker 1: mad him, but that's first on my scene.
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but my first time I played against you. So
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: we had tone sticking you and you had braids.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Then you have.
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  Speaker 5: Gone thirty Bro and tone our coach he uh tone
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: the guy that was sticking you, his dad was the
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: coach and he will not get tone off of him.
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  Speaker 2: So we're like, Bro, this whole.
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: Game, Jeff wining them out, Bro, hitting the three step
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  Speaker 5: back tone latherer movement, fucked up.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: All that, Bruh.
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: By the end, did we beat We ended up beating him,
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: but he had a great game, and I'm like, Bro,
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: I got a watch, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: But at our in our class, when you ran up
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: against niggas like that, you knew like uh it challenged
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: you in a way though, Bro, When like I was
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: when we were talking the room about o Ja, yes sir,
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: when I seen for the first time bru that he
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: changed my whole perspective of the game and like made
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: me feel like I wasn't working hard enough and my
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: whole chase for the ship was like chasing him. So
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: the old nigga, you put that bathroom in my back
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: for sure, Juice. Juice for shown.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: That nigga was different.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: I'll never forget when y'all got to because we went
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: to ab CD that year last year and you had
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: got hurt.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: But the magic, you know, I.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Don't forget ship ship the matchup with y'all. But I'm
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: from Indiana, so I know.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I see you. I'm like, Oh, they don't know this
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: nigga about to kill that nigga. So I'm like rooting.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm rooting for you, like kill him if you
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: get hurt. So everybody like he hurt, he's scary's scared.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Then I see y'all in Vegas, I'm like, yeah, that
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: nigga ain't scared. Niggas tripping. They was going at it, bro,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: They was having a game. It was one of the
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: best games I seen him at Eric against O J
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  Speaker 1: and Bill.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: That shit's crazy. We chased him, bro.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: We used to go to tournaments looking for him, like
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: really chased oj my nigga. That's that could be a
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: whole chapter of My ship. Chasing him going to tournaments,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: stay in the game. But it's really it's us too,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: by our coaches on bullshit too. We were the same ship.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: I'm quiet, of course I'm in the cut, but I'm
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: on that too, nigga, Like like we we wanted that matchup,
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: especially since we played them like in seven and eight
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  Speaker 5: seven or eight and he he was on the whole
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: other level and I'm ever forgot that, Like that's my
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: baseline right there. Like yeah, like I went back to Shah,
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: I stayed in the gym. My nigga and I I
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: think my junior year we was coached to playing them,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: but that Tyrek and all them was it was in
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: some tournament and the ship ended up like not happening,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: and that Vegas one that we and we had e
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: J I'm like, come on, like I was playing. I
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: had nobody else that was really like a D one
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: player at that time on my team like that, So
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: he had three or four guys, but like play against
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: the Vegas on that stage and to know that everybody
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: like the alarms and ship was going on that ship
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: was nuts.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: But it was crazy, he said. We talked about we
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: were talking about our seven him and like that's the
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: craziest back where played them. That's crazy.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: How'd you feel about him with joint team? Would you like?
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I love my niggas, But.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Like we played, I played on the team with full
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: of winners. Bro We won even though we was undersized
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: and all that. We won a lot of games. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: when we got him, they like, hell yeah, like we
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: got another dude that can go and e J. We
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: needed that because I was scoring my brother. In high school,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: I played more organized ship. I was playing the three
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: like my freshman year, so I don't really have the
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: ball in my hands because my man right there ran
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: he had that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: He was the point that push you to the three. Junia.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: We had like a system. So like even when I
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: came in, I played JV because the head coach was like, nah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: like we you're gonna listen, you're gonna buy by the rules.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: You you ain't bigger than the system. And I went
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: to the school only because ranking. So I'm like all right, Like,
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: but we won and I fucked around with the niggas,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: so I'm like, all right, this like it's love we
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: winning and we low key we'll beat y'all varsity niggas.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway, if y'all put it when we.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Used to practice, and shit, that's how we felt. So
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: it was all love. But the system was the big
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: man get majority of the shots, and everybody else fine
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: with whatever they gotta do, like find your way throughout
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: the game. Until like my my brother started coaching and
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: he like, man, I'm gonna put you at the point.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: That was like my sophomore junior year, put me at
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the point. I started going back to school and they
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: started to like let me play with the ball a
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: little bit more. So I'm like, all right, I'm running
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: up the court. They I don't got to plan the
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: system noring, I'm getting libs and all that, and now
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: I'm pushing the point and everybody else following me. So
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: it opened up my game for real. But at that
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: school it was strictly just But I fucked with it though,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: because Semeon groomed me into like all of the guys
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: that went there and groomed us into like really being
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: young men, learning like discipline, learning that you just can't
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: funk off, even though we were like knuckleheads and all
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: that shit, but like knowing that man, we have a
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: we have a bond that's bigger than justice basketball shit,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: and that's something that we hold on to this day.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: We have picnics to this day at our school, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: that's rare for like a public school to still be
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: having picnics, to going on and all that shit.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: What made you choose twenty five and sent me on.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Bean Wilson, I didn't choose it. All this shit chose me.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Bro everything that I've ever been in, I lived in
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: the unknown my whole life.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: All this shit just came to me.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I never wanted none of this so fame, none of that,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: even hooping, my current or my basketball dream. I didn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: know about salaries and none of that until like my
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: sophomore year.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: It clicked.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Like that may sound crazy, nigga, think about that. Your
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: sophomore year. It clicked like damn, I could change my
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: family life with this all the way until my sophomore year,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I had just it's a pure love for the game.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I didn't look at nigga salaries. I didn't look at
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: NBA games like that. I ain't look at nigga outside.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I'm hooping. I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: love sophomore year hit. I'm like, damn, I'm sending the wrong. Man,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I'm arguing with my mom at the time and all that.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: You know, God, mom got the little ship in high school.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: You look pendent like I'm arguing with her. Then they clicked, like, man,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: I could change this ship if I go to the
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: league early. I'm looking at KD. Now, I'm like, if
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: KD leave, I'm gone. They changed the rule, change the rule,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: change the rule. So I'm like, damn, I gotta do
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: a year. I have to do the year. But I was,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I ain't pay attention to none of that ship until
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: my sophomore year.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Another rule that you help a lot of people get
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: paid with the roles rule. Pioneer my boy, I said,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you look at that, and now look at everybody else's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: benefiting for you.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Love.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's that's one of That's the only thing
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: I care about, bro, even the wave or the vibration
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: that I'm in right now, like I call it DZY
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: seven twenty, like DZ stand ford, don't forget about the
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: zealous youth, and zealous means pursuit of a great cause
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: or great energy. So don't forget about the use and
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: pursuit of a great cause. So like getting back and
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I feel like that was one of our ways of
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: like getting back, you know, like me and my team,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: not only my team, but the fans, because at that time,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm doing this shit, but I'm not knowing why
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I'm creating.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not going out to clubs, I'm not going to dinners.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: you like, you have to be a machine. I ain't
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: enjoyed none of that bro until like my fourth year.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: So that rule was not only for me, It's for
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: everybody my next you know what I'm saying, Like.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: You're like before the view, could you're explain that real
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: form saying?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying some of our lazier followers
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: who didn't pay attention to that rule.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: The rule is that you get thirty percent of the cup,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: meaning that you get an extra thirty to forty million
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: if you hit the bench marks that's in your rookie
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: year contract.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So all Star.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Team, any award, going to the All Star Game, both
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: bench marks will give you thirty percent more than a cup.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: And yeah, at that time, I know what I was doing,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: but I'm very grateful and very very thankful that like
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the league allowed me to do that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: In fact, sure.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Jason tay them all them boys first, they thank you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: for showing mellow by everybody. Yes, I see, I see Jason.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum told me that straight up fuck with d Roster.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You remember he remembery talking him like, Bro, he want
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to artograph, he wanted to he want a jerk.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Bro. He was real like brod bros the greatest.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Bro. I was like not to jump before. We still
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: got to talk about the rest of his high school
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But like when people will see him when
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: he was on the team together, Bro, I used to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: tell him, like, bro, you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Have a colt following.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: This ship is crazy like and he would come out
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and he's so humble and chill and I just joke
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: all day.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I played play too much.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, yo, like y'all want my autograph and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: ship they just be like, who, I like this ship work.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So for the first time before we get back to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew, like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm messing with a different type of like status.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. Uh, we
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: went out. You was in Minnesota. I begged you. We
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: miam out begged you to go out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm come. He was on it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: You had you You know how you step on the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: back of your shoes and ship, so you were standing
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: on the back of your shoes.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: You're like, man, nah, I can't go. Bro. I'm like, no, man,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: come on and please please, then come on. It's gonna
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: be cool in the white goat. We gonna we're gonna cover.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You up everything Like, no, I ain't even that, bro,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I don't really like going out.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Finally you got tired of you like, all right, I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go. We walk in there. We walk in the club,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: were walking in the beginning part and somebody said Derek
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: de Rose. I said, ship, I swear God, like two
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: hundred people came. I said, oh Ship. I looked at Wig.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I said ship.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: We don't get this guy, little hold up. Were getting
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the club, and the dude was like, damn, we just
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: gonna put y'all back here. They just started standing outside
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the section. He looked at me, he was.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna go. We's in that mock ten minutes.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go. Fuck so imagine that Brian won't
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: nothing like it's left my fuck.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: It's weird even doing like doing this, so like putting
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: myself in like weird quagmire situations. You feel what I'm saying.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Normally I typically wouldn't I wouldn't pod or nothing like that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: But I fuck with y'all ship, and in order to grow,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: you gotta put yourself in those uncomfortable situations. So like
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: coming here or even talking like, y'all don't know how
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: much this means to me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: I love you come in and express this ship and
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: express like, uh, just how I feel where I'm at
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: at this time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I appreciate your niggas now have you here, but
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I to have you here.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I always use anytime somebody playing the patients and listening
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: off the radar, and I'll be hitting niggas with.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: The ruby, Rose, the Rose, the roues, whoever it for.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So I got a rose.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: JT.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: If you want my autograph, I got.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: What the illness, But listen, I like I said, we
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: got so much to talk about, but I want to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: bring back to your days. It's teammates, man, Yeah, obviously
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I play get each other growing up.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: How was that The first time I look up minisode, man,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I was love, Bro.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, let me let me talk, because Bro, everybody
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: that probably met up no bull and ship, they just
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: know that he a good dude, and his energy that
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: he brings to the locker room is uh. You can't
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: compare it to nobody, brother like he Uh, the vibration
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: he brings. He's always talking ship, even though it made
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: rub people different that didn't grow up that way. Niggas
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: that grew up that way that you need that in
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: the locker room. You need motherfucker's joking playing. But when
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: it's time to go, he was always ready and I
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: knew you can who do too though, So uh just
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: having them around, having uh uh TIBs, fuck with him
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: having cat he used to fuck with cats so much,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: but saying motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful ship.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, and when motherfuckers were scared
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: to say it. I'm new to the team, so I'm
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: just trying to get the vibe on the team. You
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear, and people respected that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: So it was always love. Just having Jeff around It
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: surprised me too when like you start coming over to
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: the crib because you know, niggas normally don't hang out
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: with each other, Like yeah, it's like on some fake ship.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: So like having you start coming over. Then you came
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: over the night that I don't believe in coincidences either.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: You came over the night that I had fifty in
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: my brother's knows that my brother was in the kitchen
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: and drinking and ship.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know if you'll want to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: talking about that, right you gotta Yeah, I wasn't what
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: it's crazy all that ship? Why Yo?
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: That would be no.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But I mean that's a little layer of the story
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: because you still got so many years Becuz he he
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: gave me a chance. I played against him, and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: kind of I'm musa speak on the Minnesota moment, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Bulls moment when we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: played him in the pay of the playoffs.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And he spared me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So before we get to the fifty, I'm gonna tell
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you when he could have had fifty a night another time.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Oh you talking in the playoffs Mother's Day and him first,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I remember, forget Bro, we having the first quarter were
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: going back and forth. It's a duel, and I'm like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in my head, I'm out here dueling with the MVP.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: What the fucking But I'm talking shit. It's the first
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: game in Atlanta. So I'm like, yeah, motherfucker life. And
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he like he ain't saying nothing. He just like like
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: looking at me, like I'm guarding he go by. He
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: dunk one time. I said, oh shit, crowd go. I'm like, damn,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Milena ya, y'all the trip for me, Like what the fuck?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Going back and forth. Second quarter we had like thirteen
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: fourteen second quarter. I think I scored two points. He
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: scored like another nine. I'm like, damn, go to the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: locker room. I'm like, Jamal, you can switch off on him.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, hell no, you keep going. You're doing good.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Man, like you guarding them good. I'm like, I forgot that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: At thirty.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They're like, don't worry about it, keep going playing good.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: ain't scoring no more. This motherfuck is still going. It's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: starting to blow us out. He gets what you had
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like forty four yeah, forty four yeah. So it's like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: what it was like five six minutes left in the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: fourth Mall said the same you got that Nigga looked
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: at I never forget. I'm like I had like twenty one.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like looking at him. I'm still trying to guard
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: him hard. And you know how a nigga kind of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: like relax, like not tell you relax, but kind of
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: like it's over. Bro.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: The nigga kind of like come getting me tips. I said,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: fuck him. I look at the score, but I said
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: he ain't want to get fitty. I said, game four no,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: fuck that. I was so mad. I said he spared me.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I was like I went to the locker room and
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Moove was like, man, you know that's just one game. Dog.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, nah, he dmn had fifty.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: He's like, Nigge think you can stop him even play
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: shit like the only page And Nigga got hurt, like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you did good.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Nigga, shut up. You're right, JA woke the tough Ast series.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It was, But you spared me? Why you spare me?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't spare you, bro.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: You know at that time, I wasn't even thinking about
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I don't be thinking about scoring like that. I'd be
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: really in the game, bro, like every because my mindset
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: was if I didn't score, like we was gonna fall back.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: When I was playing, I just knew I had to
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: affect the game in a positive way.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: This when I really was like, fuck you, you hit
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a floater, right, I could tested this ship out, this monucker.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I was playing hard as hell, y'all, don't play defense.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm playing hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: He hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bit.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I said, hold on, he caught it after the neck
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Louis I said.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I said, he's playing around this funny Joe. He getting
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: ready for Miami. Okay, cool? Cool. I was hot like
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I was thirty a hot. My brother like, bro, you're
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: getting your chance. It's all good. You ain't playing bad.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me. Bro Like, like, Bro,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: he embarrassed everybody the MVP. Then I thought about it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, I'm good. I'm trying to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: score now.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: But I remember that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Your career too, though.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, having kind of him bro like, just to even
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: have some good moments against him at that time, they
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: helped my career. But I took that to say, I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: seen you could have got fifty. Then I seen you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: get fifty. So that's where I was going with. I'm like, damn,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I seen where he could have had fifty.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I was a part of that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And then to be a part of that moment to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: see you actually get fifty and for you to say, yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going for it tonight, I'll never forget. You said,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: t you playing to night? Like nahin' I ain't fucking
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: with it. He said, Oh, I'm going forward. I said,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: what you going for?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I started. I was like, what you're going for He's like.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Nah, I'm going for it. I was like, what I'm
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: getting it? I'm getting fifty. It's crazy, Damn. I went
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to Josh Cochia getting fifty tonight take Jumbo and nobody's playing,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, he gonna get fifty. And
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you know Rudy Gobert, nim Defensive Player of the Year
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: all that ship. I'm like, we're gonna have to kill
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: these niggas.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Man that first quarter. Now you I hurt my ankle.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I'm jumping up and down right. I never forget. Ryan
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: was like, you could play worry about that ship, learn
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: about this ship, and he just started.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Going crazy in the whole game, like we just watching
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like this dude is amazing. And it
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was like, you know me playing before you got hurt
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm like this, this is him, like he
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: always got this and see him going crazy. Then you
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: hit Rudy with the move, finished the lay. Then they
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: started getting emotional, like the nigga everybody on the team just.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Like, damn, bro, he worked so hard. I'm like that,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm about to doing the game.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Then he got emotional and then I look at the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: nigga because I know I'm like I fuck with the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: cigare every day.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this means some ship, like I start.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Fuck man, I'm a nigga, Bro, I don't I'm from
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the west side of that, Bro, I ain't about to
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: be crying for no nigga scoring no points. They want
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: fucker to hit me out the fuck work.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: By did the game go over, I'm like, ship, I'm
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: about to be a party in locker room. Fuck this,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this more fuck up.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: He do the interview. I didn't even hear it, but
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I remember he was emotional. I remember seeing it on TV.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Went on back there.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Record that shit he walked in, they throw the water
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: on it, then I send it to your girl. Like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: this's gotta be a moment, y'all. Never forget like I was.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That ship was hard.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: I was like, why that game though, poo, Why that game?
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: What made you? You know what I mean?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: It was just I just felt something right when he
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: told me he wasn't playing. I seen Jimmy one't playing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, that's what. It's just the opportunity.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: And every every nigga in the league that's not playing
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: whish they could have that opportunity. In fact, everybody, bro, shit,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: you look at niggas that's not that in the league.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: You look at it right now. Just give me that
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: one chance. I could go out there and I could
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: at least shoot fifteen to twenty field goals and see
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: what's gonna happen. Yeah, and once I get rolling, you
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: really gonna see what's what's gonna happen.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I just felt like that moment was like just my moment,
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: especially going through everything that, Like I went through, went
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: through the little shit I was still going through, like
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: injuries and yeah, like I said, bro, I'm just living
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: in it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: Bro.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Like the ship that be going on, I can't really
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: explain because I'm in it. But all I could do
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: is like prep myself for the moments. Like when I
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: was in basketball, I was prepping myself for that moment.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Now that I'm switching over to of this, like my
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Sh'S gonna be like y'all ship one day, six seven
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: cameras and bro, oh yeah, you're gonna do a part,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: not the part I'm trying to get into directing, bro
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, better, but directing telling like real stories that book.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: But I mean, y'all, like everything that y'all saw though
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: the commercial or the video, that's me Maddie and that's random.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: All of us came together, got that ship together along
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: with Carlisle and Mark along with the other guys that
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: was a part of the team. Like, but we created
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: that that moment, so you know, prepping ourselves for something
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: huge for sure.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: You know we're there to support. Shouts to the team
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: as well. And I say one thing before we get
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: back to the because this is my nigga, I'm just high.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, but I'll never forget this. When
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I was like this nigga different, like y'all know me,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I'm they know me.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: No, it's all good. It's good.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: They know I'm wild, y'all know me. I became a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: man in Atlanta, so my perspective was a little different.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Like shit, I was going out, my team was going out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Everything. So when I came to Indiana, did I get
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: My mind still like, man, all right, we had a
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: good practice, we had some game, we hoped, but like
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: where were gone?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So I remember one night John Lucas called me. I'm like,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Luke called me, like, yo, where we at?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: He called me like, man, you.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Should come in the gym. I'm like, nigga, no, right,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you talking about going on gym? Man.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I'm here for all that. He like, man,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you tripping, bro, come in here. I come in there,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and he like he like text me like he rows
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in here and I come in. I remember with your
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: whole family, you had your daughter in the stroller. Your
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: girl was sitting on there on stroller. You were shooting,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and you had shot Damnar five hundred shots. And I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: remember because you had to end up hurting your elbow.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, how many shots this nigga shoot? The
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Jay look like he gonna be ready? What's the fuck
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: he gonna be ready?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, and we about to play in the playoffs,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: about to play in Houston. That's when you first came
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to the team, like, he's gonna be ready, don't trip,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: he gonna be ready. I'm like, well, Ship, he shooting
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: fire and shot gonna shoot fifty.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: From the thirties getting them up. So I'm laughing, and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Ship I'm colder.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I'm joking and Ship and were getting the playoffs, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to TIBs like, man, this nigga
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: gotta play like he was having me getting the game
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he killed. I'm like, no, he gotta come on, man,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he gotta get in the game. Earlier, TIBs like, no, fuck,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a fuck, take him take him out?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: He like, how do I tell him? Like, nigga tips
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: is shoot, He's like everybody and.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: All then that nigga just starts saying fuck it, come on,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I swear, come on. Yeah, I watched this nigga builds bro.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: He was that's fire and the next year with you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: shot forty.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: From thirty forty.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: But you assistant with that too though, right when I
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: got to the team, you probably remember you, Hey, that's
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: you for that bread.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I have money. You don't understand it though, when you
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: like I. The league ain't nothing but specialists right in facts.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: So when you are aren't labeled or shooting like that,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: that shit can last for like a long time until
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: you beat that ship.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You got to you gotta beat that, you know what
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Allegation, Come on, man.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: they know how to shoot when they one years old
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: teaching they formed.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: They and their crib elbow all that. All y'all shots
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I have not one person growing up to tell me
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this ship
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: out solely by myself. No basketball camps couldn't afford it,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: none of that. It's solely me being in the park
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: by myself testing out ship and all that stick or
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: you know how, after experimenting and.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: That shit stuck.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: But so to like go to a team and to
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: be cool with a motherfucker, to be in a shooting
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: game with him, and don't take it personal if they
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: beat you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not crazy. I want to take it like you
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: But it takes uh to go one on one or
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: to the challenge a motherfucking one and to push yourself
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: in practice when you ain't know nothing about it. I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: shooting with you. You don't know damn films. All yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying. Fucking around shooting, playing, talking
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: to people. I'm trying to make every mother. I'm gonna
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: teach your show.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Your want to show your ass.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I'm in forty this. I'm probab to stop shooting because
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I was like this nigga starting to beat me. Man quit.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: But I'm just like, he ain't take he was taking
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a light because he's playing. He always playing, and all right,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: but if Tims ain't on that, he ain't on that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: That story of my life that my god br so
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: like to to actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: I took pride it up even though you didn't know
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: about this.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: But now I've seen it. Then when the next year,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I started, like we started starting together at the beginning
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: of the year, and I'm like, I'm going on fast work.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I'm starting the ball to him in the corner and
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: he fired, and I'm like, this.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Nigga really a shooter. Like he running the lane, min
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you like Nigga the MVP. He great with the ball,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: like I should be running the lane.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Nigga.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: He like, get it, get it, get it, taking off
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to the corner and firing threes and I'm laughing. I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: like this nigga shooter, Like what is Nigga spotting up forty?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Shooting forty from the three? And I'll never forget. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: was like, Nigga shooting forty. He was like, you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he a student of the game, Like Nigga gotta be
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a shoot to three man. They paying niggas shoot the three,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and I remember shoot was sweet.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: He was like I remember everything.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Bro. He was like, I'm a I'm aa shoot forty.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm going to get that bag, bro,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: then I'm done, sir. And I was like, nah, you're
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: gonna leave. I'm in my head like he about to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: leave Minnesota because ain't the way he's starting over me.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: At the time, niggas was telling me the crowd get
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: him out. I'm like, damn, that's my nigga. I gotta
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: help me. He got so bad, my nigga.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I started telling niggas like, do you want to start
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: because it is easier, nigga.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You gonna go off the bench? Bro?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: What but I give him credit, Nigga, I'll never forget.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: He told me like, and then we got to get
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: back to where it started. But then he told me,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: he was like, tie, you gotta find your niche cause nigga,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Like coming off the bench, they gonna pay, they need
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: somebody to kill off the bench.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: They gonna find a new role. And I never he
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: did not want to start.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I remember I went to Tim. I said, Tims, I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: am sick of hearing these When you start him, he
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: was like, who I'm gonna start him over?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga me.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: He was like, you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: He was like no, no, and I was starting together
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and he was like, I could do that who we
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: take out and we start trying to figure it out whatever.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But I just remember when you said that. So when
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you left, I went to Ryan, I said I wanna
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: come off the bench because I was like, I'm about
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to do exactly what he did. I was like, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: want to come off the bench because you told me, like, Bro,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career. Bro,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out and were about to fill
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: these new roles. I was like, I'm about to take
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: his role. And I started doing everything he did. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: started stretching. I ain't do none of that ship, phone,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: roller ball and ship.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like that nigga, he figured it out. Fuck that
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I'm doing that. Ship did quite work out, but it
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: was too late. Was broke down. I was a money.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: So I had your knee and that was it. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Well I had ankles. I had sergaery on my ankle. Yeah,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: but then I had my patella was gone. I ain't
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: got I'm bone on bone out.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It's over with.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Ad ain't worth a quarters an.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: It was gone last year.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: It was it was gone my last year in Minnesota.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So I was bone on bone. But I was just
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: playing and then the last piece of piece of my
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Pateller tour. And when I was in Milwaukee, Uh, it
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: was over with that bone on bone.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: That's something. It was over once you go there for
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: sure doing that as well. Yeah, how are you doing that?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: How are you doing that?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: He's different, bro, Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, listen,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you have so many crazy accomplishments. Man, we got to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: speak on something, man. Obviously we got to start one
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of the crazy ones. MVP, youngest MVP ever having one
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the craziest season of the NBA in the conference where
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Lebron James was like, how was that season for you?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Because obviously you know what I'm saying. You came in
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the league going crazy. How how crazy was that particular
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: season for you?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: at that time. My whole mindset was like keep it moving.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: So you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: would cherished some of the days a little bit more.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: But like me looking in the past and shit, but
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: what I was telling y'all at that time, I didn't
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: enjoy anything, Bro. I didn't go out to eat with
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: my family or friends like that, No movies like that,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: none of that, bro, no concerts, because I was totally
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: locked in too thinking that I had to follow like
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Kobe was doing, thinking cold as, not enjoying itself, not
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: going on vacas, not doing any of that. So I
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: felt tricked, like in a way whenever at the time
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I felt that way, Like my fourth year, I ended
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: up going to the Philippines. When I saw him like relaxed,
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, you motherfucker was tricking me this whole time.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I dedicated three.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Three years of thinking you didn't do ship, bro, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: to see you actually out here just chilling like it
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: kind of fucked me up. But like I couldn't take
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: it personally because even though I was like admiring them
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: like that, so uh, that year it was just fun, man,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: something that you can't explain, like my being in shy
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: at the going number one and being the point guard
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: of the team. Like you got the rocking your hand,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: and you got your guys, like my guys being around
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: to sixth grade on the baseline, yeah talking or you
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, So the whole time like that's
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: something that yeah, but we did it right though, men
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: In fact, we made sure that the ups and downs
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: that we had in Chicago, no matter what it was,
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: we could go back there and still like do business
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: or whatever it is with them.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So it was a blast over for sure.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Man, both of you can speak just being you know
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, point guard, the man in your city,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: playing for your hometown. Like, what's that feeling like, Like
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: we talked about it, but what's that feeling growing up
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: in Chicago?
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Like all right, I saw MJ hitters. Now they look
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: lot of pressure. I can imagine.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: A lot.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: people when they talk about Chicago, they always mentioned like
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: the bad.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Shit, So I got to mix it up.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: MJ wouldn't be MJ if he was if he played
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: anywhere else but Chicago for his pro career, he would
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: have been a great player anywhere else, but in Chicago.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: He became the black Cat. He became MJ in Chicago.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago,
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: and it's coaches everywhere, Like with the basketball coach is
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: just strong, and that the expectation of like what you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: gonna do. We've seen you. We see niggas like you
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: back in the sixties. Are you supposed to have been
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: like elevated the game or doing something? They're like, what's next?
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: MJ one them three? I guarantee you. He had people
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: in this corner like, there's no way they're gonna let
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: you win. You just went on vacer niggas, you ain't
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: gonna let you come back and win three more. I
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: bet you can't.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: That's what niggas in shot telling them, I bet you can't.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: They talk to the wrong one.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I bet you he what one?
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: I bet you can't win another one. But tell you, guys, look,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: I'm gigging them up. That's yeah, yeah, gigging them up,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: just off the strength. But that's what I meant by
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: the culture though, like being there, that's what I felt.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Even though people my guys never came up to me
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: and was like, man, you gotta kill this motherfucker this game.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: I felt it. Though they ain't have to say nothing.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: They'll say little shit. They all be in the kitchen
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: or something. Man, what try I heard?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: What's talk?
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Throwing the party to night, not saying it to me,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: but they just talking, but making sure that I hear
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: like what going on me?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I was that nigga I'm going out.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: To kill from.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: I'm listening to even though they ain't bringing it to me,
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: they they staying it so that I could I just
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: could hear it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, so is this nigga fuck Rory
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: forty of me?
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: person that they had to go out, like who is
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: your old person? Like that? You was like, damn, what's
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: crazy killing? But I got to sleep for him.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: I had a problem down damn there with everybody, especially
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: in TIB's system defensive system, where like at that time
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: we icing everything. He if one person go over the
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: top basketball terms, he beat you and over the top
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: of the pick and roll like he now you're chasing
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: them like behind them and shit if that happened, he
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: like it was just hard. But I'm a pure point
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: so I hate point guards that feel like they about
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: to control the whole game. So scoring, if you scoring,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: I don't care about scoring like that, even though like
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: the NBA forced me into scoring. I never was the
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: leading score on any of my elementary time, probably was
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: the leading scorer, but high school somebody else was college
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: CD I was, so I never was the leading score
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: I just found my spots and I found the way
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: to make it look good. But I'm a pure point
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: at hard So I hate point guards that don't care
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: about scoring like a rondo like this nigga, like they
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: could fall into just the system of just playing the
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: right way.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Like no, I'm in the least try to get in
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: your head. People don't.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, scoring ain't really that much to me because I
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: winning the game is more than me. I heard one
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: of my O g's, Kurt Heinrich, say like after somebody
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: gave him like forty or fifty, he's saying this ship
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: out like out loud, but I'm just hearing them. Were
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: walking in the hallway we won, and he was like, ha,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: that motherfucker just scored fifty points for no reason.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that ship hit home.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Well, Like that's why after I scored that fifty, I
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: was so happy that one nigga, Like you got the win, bro,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: like fifty or sick whatever it is if you ain't
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: getting that dub at the end, raced up the fact that.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Wasn't jed in high school, I mean college.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: In college, I was I get some cool that fucking
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Jenny like for by the league though he adjusted.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Community from but everybody liked that in high school, college
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: you getting to it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: That's how you got to the league. That's what these
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: young kids.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: They don't be looking at these players or thinking like, oh,
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: you were bum because you on the bench. Bro, did
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: you see this player? He was in high school of college.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: That's how he got seen. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: For sure, Man, you brought one of my favorite college
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: players of all the time. My boy cdy'all, y'all was
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: going gray, I have to.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: See y'all Man. Yeah, no, that's the fact, C. The
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: we we got I gotta tell this sort of story CD.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: So he tried to hold me right.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: So it's me, him and Tone in the gym. We're
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: there for summer. Uh, summer school. We shouldn't have course
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: shots for hundred one hundred dollars a shot though at
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: the time we both flig and.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: We don't got it like that. So every shot, really,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you know, that's a shot in college.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: So uh, he hit a shot and I shot right
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: behind him, and he said that my foot was on
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: the line, and he tried to stand on me like
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: he you know his voice, you know, and I'm like
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: I am back. I'm like, no, nigga, no, you got
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: no one, no matter of fact. He shot the shot
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: and his foot was on the line and I made
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: him shoot over and he was surprised that I said something,
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: and he fucked with me for saying something like damn,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: you don't let me hold you.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, nigga, I ain't going for check.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: I gotta tell another story. So this when I really
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: knew that I made the right decision. So once again,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: summer school were there. Joey Dorsey ended up going to
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: against the boot concert video shoot.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Shout on Sure.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: He was in all the Legend Man, all the Leash.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: He missed the run, right, he missed the whole run.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking nothing of it. I get to the house,
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Joy come to the crib. He thinking everything cool, Cee.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I ain't talking to him at all. He started cursing
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Joey out so bad, bro, like, man, you let them
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: mother fucking team down. That's some whole ass talking to
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: him crazy. And you know, Joy Big, I'm thinking that
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: they're about to fight because it's my first own nor
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I just got here joy respected it
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: started crying. Bro, I said, I made the right choice. Yeah,
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: these niggas care about winning. Bro, Like you mad at
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: the nigga for there's some summer ship, you know what
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. But and there was some ship that we
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: were running, not col we we set that ship up
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: or he set it up and the nigga didn't show up.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: And once I've seen that, I'm like, this is gonna
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: be a good ass year. Yeah, older niggas, that's on
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: the same page.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like, all, yeah, the hell of a run, the
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: hell of a year. Bro, Like, do you remember anything
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: from that game? That championship game.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Shot? Shout to my dog, that was a tough shot.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: The only thing I yeah, the fireworks, Bro, after you
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: leave the court, the shit be burning you, bro? Or
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: why as you walking off? I wanted to fight somebody.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: That's the only thing I remember you walking as a loser.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: The fireworks you see on TV that shit come down.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: A lot of people be getting burned in that ship.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that the ship was burning me, and
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: that ship was making me so mad as I walked
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: off the court, knowing that I blew the game.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: That was the only thing I remember for real, because
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: after that it was straight lead.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was like when you was like, you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I seen a video documentary you on, you know, Chicago
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: getting the first pick or Miami or whatever.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: What was it like that feeling when you've seen Chicago
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: got that first pick? Like damn.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: So yeah, we were in LA at the time, and
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: right when I seen that, they were like one of
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: the last ones. I kind of knew then, like what
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: it was, even though people didn't in the room didn't
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: say it. I'm like, damn, Chicago seven percent change. I'm like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: we gonna end up winning that shit, and yeah, that's
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: going back to the crib, Like, yeah, everybody got to
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: experience that one time at least one time. Yeah, Like
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: don't you know how everybody was saying you should play
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: New York at least one time as a as a
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: hooper just to feel an atmosphere. I feel the same
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: way about people playing at home. If you could, you
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: might as well, like at least get that experience.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I leaned on you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: You don't even know, but I left Indiana to come
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to Minnesota, right, so when you came on a team,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, because I hate no shade to Minnesota.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I love Minnesota cool, but I hated leaving the crib,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, damn, it was everything
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I wanted.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I'm at the.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Crib, my homeboys, everybody be at the game after I
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: lead the game, I even my family all that. So
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: when I came, when you came to Minnesota, it was like,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: what I experienced, like he had to lead a crib before.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So like that's why I started, Like you probably ain't know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I started gravitating Tod you like, bro.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: You won't shoot you want to do that?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And you like, because I just want to get like, damn,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: how did that nigga get like through leaving Chicago? Like
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: you was every Like I was nowhere near what you
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: was Indiana, but you are the Chicago Like I was good,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: but I played one year. He was their MVP, high expectations,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: showed it up. I'm like, man, how he get through
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: leaving the crib? So I just wanted to like, I'm like, man,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: how he worked?
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: What is mental like?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: And then I start seeing you read books and ship
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and it's everything that I never even thought, like I'm
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: thinking you like like not like me, but I knew
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you was like, damn you from the Midwest. He probably
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: joking clown and clowning and you joking clown. You were
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: super like dedicated to ship. And I was just like,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: all right, let me not fuck up his dedication because
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I'm type of that, hey, bro, you try to get
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: some bullshit. And he was just like and he kind
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: of like made me start like appreciating the craft again
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: because I was kind of like, damn, I got paid,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I'm cool, my family straight.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: But then I seen you.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and he's super cool, Like he got paid,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: he don't even gotta be doing this really, but he
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: appreciating the craft, and it made me like start like,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: hold on, let me stop playing. Let me like remember
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: why I love hooping bro.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Going into the league though, nah, nigga, I was like
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: everybody else this ship. It takes time, Bro, takes growth,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: Bro to get I went through what I went through.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: I tried leaving two times, Like so you get to
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: a point where like I could keep doing the same
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: shit or I could change.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So after I went through my case, I made a
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: vow that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: For seven years that I was just gonna like try
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: to change my image, you know what I'm saying, by
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: just just being me, just staying out of sight, out
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: of mind. And it went from seven to now I'm
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: on year like eleven of me just like finding enjoyy bro,
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: you know what i mean, Like basketball, goat me that.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: But even coming here, I'm always looking for something for inspiration.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: So like coming here seeing what y'all got going on,
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: watching from a far, like huge fan of the Jeff
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: of course, seeing how he's adapting to like this new
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: world and new business venture that he's in. So the
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: questions that I asked you all in there, that's why
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: I asked you know what I'm saying, because but that's
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: what y'all hit, you know what I mean.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: So I appreciate you, Well, was it a vet that
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: when you got to the league that kind of embraced you?
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Every almost every vet, bro, every vet, every teammate I had.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this, every
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: one of them.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Because when it comes to like the basketball ship when
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: I was in it, I'm like, even though I don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: want the fame, I still wanted people to like appreciate,
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: like the work that I put in or like like
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: the way that I played so nice to be on
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: teams when niggas and they tell me they from Booze
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: from Alaska, I'm thinking.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: About market market. Yeah, market, that's a market.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, Like damn, I never knew you know what I mean,
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: all you from overseas, Damn they watching you too.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I mean they watching me all right, bet like you
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: Away showed love to everybody, and I had great vets
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: to gray vets like show me about health, like Luau
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: was the first one. Should I have seen eat like
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at halftime? And now
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: that's a custom in the league. Let's before you go
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: on the buzz and I mean like brunch, all that
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: shit is a is just there now, But before it
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: was there, you had like OG's that really you saw
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: stretching before every game like a Nazi Muhammad, like Joe Kim,
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: how he took care of his body. Like a lot
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: of guys were really pros bro slay the least sixteen
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: seventeen years. Yeah, didn't get in the game at all,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: but they get ready, they get activated like they're about
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: to play thirty minutes and to just chill. So I've
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: seen that, and I'm like, man, whenever I do get
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: in that position, I'm gonna try to handle that the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: same way. But only how you get there is you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: got to kill your ego. And that's not like a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: one time thing. That's like a continuous, fucking everyday thing.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. What motherfuckers think it's just
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: one time. No, that's just the first challenge. This shit
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: just gonna keep popping up, especially if you call your
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: man you feel like you accomplish something, you know what
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: I mean. It's a thin balance. It's a balance. You
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: got to balance the shit out. So being aware of that,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: being mindful of it, Like that's when he met me.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: That's what the stage that I was in.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: When I seen you, Like, I ain't gonna lie everybody
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: know me. I'll be like I don't want no kids. Yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: but when I see you with your son, like being
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat eye.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: This just random shit.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I remember because I used to be watching, like that's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: hard y'all try to shoot the ball into the rack, correct, Yeah,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, y'all thinkgas know y'all not about to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: hit that, right. I'm like, y'a, I'm looking like they
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna hit that, and y'all would continuously do it.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And I remember one time he hit it, yes, and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, I, I fucking hit that ship.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised. To y'all, I'm not going to bet. But
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: that's my version of the crate for him.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Put the crate up, bro, We're gonna we're gonna make
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: a basketball rim out of anything on this motherfucker being creative.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: And I want you to be able to be on
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: this court at this stage and feel comfortable around twenty
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: to ten, ten thousand people looking at you. Just be
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: yourself because a lot of kids I see, like a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: lot of kids that get on that stage free's up,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: scared than the motherfucker. I'm like, no, I don't want
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: my kids going to do that. Through that man, I'm
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable, like I'm
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: putting myself in positions. But for him, I wish I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: had a dad or yeah, something I wish I had,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: So I got to present the opportunity for them.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I was watching that ship, man, he over there tossing
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: that ball, so it was like three days in a row.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Yeah, he ain't gonna I ain't gonna that.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: That ain't gonna like I'm over there like that.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Like that.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: It's dope.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: It's hard a lot of these days. I'm glad you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: ain't trying to but a lot of these niggas trying
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: to live through their kids on the hoop world, especially
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: a lot of these A you, Dad, So I was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: going to ask you, like how do you balance that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: dad life? And you know, making sure he stay on
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: the straight arrow on the hool store, you know, pushing
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: itself to his maxibility.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: more like discipline with him right now. But it's about
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: knowing your worth too, because he's in the stage and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of little hoopers need to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: hear this, like, uh, knowing your worth, Like if a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: company come to you for an nil deal or something
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: like that, and like you don't know your worth, you'll
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: take any deal, but you got to look at like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: what do you see your brand or what you see
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: yourself associated with? Like he had a deal to come
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: to him in which I thought that he shouldn't have took,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: but I can't say that to him. I asked him
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: about it. Hey, you think it's right. So who do
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: you see yourself as associated.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: With this brand? That brand?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: He started thinking about it like I gotta make you think.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: I gotta provoke a thought, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Like just to see where your head, that where you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: think at least put it on your mind that if
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: you see yourself being an MVP type caliber, whoever you
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: associate yourself with got to be on that same level too.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: So like the hoop inside, I let him just play bro.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: I'm not on him. I make him do his push
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: ups and sit ups and shit like that, but it's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: really just school and making sure that his mental rate.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: Like a lot of kids, he quiet, So a lot
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: of kids be like going through shit by themselves, and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: my kids, I want to be able to make sure
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: that I'm there well, not only like my kids, but
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: my family.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's interesting here you set.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying with you, he coached your
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: alma mater. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: now growing up in high school, being good at having
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: some type of impression they getting deals.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, all right, that might be cool now, but
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: you don't know what you're getting yourself into. Ain't nobody
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: getting deals with the high school? Not idiot? He loving?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Oh ship yeah, loving?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: But like it's like coaching kids, Like you're right, it's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of the mental stuff, like what they go
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: through outside of basketball. You just want to make sure
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: that they're in a comfortable spoor. They in a good place.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: But like you doing that with your kids, and that's dope.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know, like when you watch them play,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: because I seen him hit a game a game winner.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know you too.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Like I remember him like you said,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I remember shooting on them on the little rack or whatever.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: So to see him here in game winners, do you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: see his skilled up? Like skill level going up? And
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you like, ship, man, I'm starting to see it.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Do you there is now? Man?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I'm taking down. Bro, I have to be there, yeah
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: for my fans, Like uh uh, it's all about the discipline, bro,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: Like I don't know how many times like as a
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: as a I'm talking as a dad not a father,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: because it's a difference. Like my kids call me dad
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: I love, and they call me dad not father. Don't
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: sound right, Jackson, Ship don't sound right to me. So
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: like that time that I'm putting in, giving every one
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: of my kids that equal time, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: But with him, since he's the oldest, I have to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: be a little bit more strict on him as far
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: as making sure he gets up on time for school,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: taking out the garbage, a little chores ship, but creates
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: your character, you know what I'm saying. Oh man, So
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: I'm seeing like it carries over to where if you're
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: not disciplined in something that you're passionate about back in basketball,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: how you think you're gonna be disciplined in the other areas.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: You know, if you're not disciplined about something that you
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: love other areas is gonna fall too that you're gonna
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: crumble at some point, you know what I'm saying. In fact,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: so I'm like, bro dedicate yourself to this, and I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: guarantee you it's gonna pay off. But he listened though,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: Like that's half the battle too, and which I love
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: about him. I could talk to him. He got his
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: own individuality too. So once I see that, I don't
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: want to tamper with that because I see that if
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: I do, you're gonna try to make You're gonna try
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: to follow me or follow in my footstep. You're your
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: own person. You are PJ Ro, you are your own entity. Right,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: how you feel about this? I asked him, how you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: feel brow what you think? He'll tell me the honest truth.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: All this is how we're gonna think about it, just
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: like we were talking about with the deal. He was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: mad that I was telling him that shit about the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: deal because he knew that I was telling them right,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: Like what Like I was asking them questions, and the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: question I was the answers. He was like, not elaborating
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: on him, Like yeah, he said a certain company name.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say the name, say their name.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: I'm like, so, how like that don't add up? P
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. He started to hear what
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. He heard what I was saying, but start crying.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I'm not here to chastise you or
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: make you feel like you made the wrong decision. I'm
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: just showing you that you have worth they're coming because
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: you have worth. Now you decide what that worth is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: going to be a lot of kids these days, they
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: don't know what the worth. They don't even know that
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: they got work alone, telling the motherfucker that they love
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: them with some of it, hitting them, patting them on
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: the back for letting for doing something right. So me
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: expressing to him where I'm at right now, telling him
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: like man, PJ, I'm doing this for me, my nigga,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: not doing this for you.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: No more quinning because of me. I'm tired of it.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this solely to be around y'all, taking you
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: to school, I'm picking you up. I'm doing this. I'm
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: doing that. You appreciate this ship. You may not understand
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: it now.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: That's my whole little saying that you ain't gonna understand it,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: but later on you're gonna respect it.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: I say that all the time, but you ain't. Motherfucker
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: kids trifle.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Home.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: A line of told motherfucker bro y'all keep his room,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: trifle these mice and ship O, come fuck your roaches
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: and ship. You got a lot to them. You gotta
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: kind of cash for sure, ya saying all the bullshit.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Look appearance anything to make them.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Listen, Bro, for sure, you gotta trick him a little bit,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: like that's what I mean by being a dad, like sparking,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: like sparking that engine. Sometimes you got a lot of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: kids now they don't know how. They ain't gonna know
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: because of the the conditions and living circumstances that you
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: gather me in, because of what you went through.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I went through this.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: I'm putting you in this type of environment so that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: you don't got to go back to that. If they
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: do go back to it, you will fail. You any
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: you a failure if you let them go back. Yeah,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: you feel what I'm saying. So I'm creating this for
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: you and to see you thrive. And that's all. That's
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: the stage. Man, just bossing up brow what it's all about.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Bro, for sure, Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: means for you, Bro, and how much this means to us.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Like we said, we got this opportunity. Shot to the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: team for making this happen. Man, we were at static. Man,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: we are really happy that you pulled up on this.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Means the world to us for show. Bro, Bro, No, no,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: for sure, I gotta say something for you. Leave.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I'm so geekd bro, like I'm a fan, Like I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: know we graduated seven whatever, So like when I was
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: in college, you was a rookie and you going against
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Rondo and them in the celt in the playoffs and stuff,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm watching, I'm like, damn, it's some I know him,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: like I competed against him.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I see him to see you do that ship and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: then like to get to know you over the years.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: And then see what kind of person as you, kind
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: of father you are, how dope you are as a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: person cool, and like for you to have all the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: accolades and all all the shit that you've got, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: how humble you was, Like, Bro, you will put me
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: in spaces and we'd be in rooms and you are
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: like you.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: The one, and you.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Like this nigga crazy, I'm taking over the floor. But
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: everybody want to be around you, and that shit is dope.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: You don't meet too many people who just like who
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: got the resume or the person that you are and
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: let you be you like you ain't had to let
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: me start, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like you
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I earn. I ain't saying I earned
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: the start, bro, But we being honest. Bro, I'm just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: a realistic person.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Like you might have went through some stuff, you went
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to New York and whatever, whatever, and then you came
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: to the team. But when you started hooping, nigga, you
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: was averaging sixteen off the bench.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: I was averaging ten.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: But still at that time, I was fully aware of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: where I was at. At that time, I didn't want
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: to start. Tims used to try to come to me.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I know you.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Didn't want to start, but I was like please, Opposite
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: the whole reason I'm telling Tims, tell the man is
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: probably going to you like you need to start.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Like no, I'm like telling what's.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: So crazy is in a different situation that's goes differently
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: and most of the time, and that's the typical NBA
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: typically got them going against each other, but you're pushing
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: each other.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: And that's why I worked out and.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: The niggas just didn't want to start because they was
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: hurting this feelings.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: It was about it was it wasn't it was about
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: that nigga. That's what I came.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: I was I was fucking zero that.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Listen my last day after we went to the Prince House. Right,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: we went to Prince House. Right, we had a little
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: showing that I'm gonna let you'll get out of here
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: me Wig. So if you to know Wig is to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: love Wig and he's live, he's me and him very similar,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: entire a lot of stuff and then.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Just put it out.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: So I didn't say that, he said that, So then
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: the no Wig, it is the know Gorgy. So it's me,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Gorgy and Wig at a table.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Right. We don't smile for ship. We don't do ship.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: We mean like, people don't know this side of me.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Only the teammates know our joking ships like the fan
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. They think I'm mass So I don't smile
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: about ship. But Wig don't smell about ship. Gorgy he's
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: the nicest person in the world, but they don't know.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Like he don't smile. Man our table empty, nobody want
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: our table. I'm talking about man his table. Nigga to
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Prince Jersey walking by, not one person had a just press.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: By the way, I think my mama might have one.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: This nigga.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Prince Jersey bro had to be the highest selling ship
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: in the NBA that it had to be Bro. I know, Bro,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: they was walking by. I was like, damn, Damn, Damn Damn.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wig damn.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: We just got a Max.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, Bro, you might want he. I gotta leave, Bro,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: they don't fuck with me, y'all. I'm like, they don't know.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: It was not even just like I gotta leave, like
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: they're not fucking with me no more. It was Cat
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: and then d Ro. This Jersey was more than Cats.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he's not gonna be back, like
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Cat not fucking with that.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: I'm keeping it up being Bro. I'm keeping up being Bro.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, you'll know.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Stop, Okay, I'm Cat Brood the guy. I love Cat Bro.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Cat coolest half. I think Cat one of the coldest
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: players to ever play. When I seen that ship, you
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: had to be there.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: We act the Prince House Bro with Prince Jerseys. I'm
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: watching them like this is d roll ship. Like I'm like,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: this is ship, you know what I mean. I'm I'm
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a real nigga. Really I realized it. Yeah, he
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: went it six me. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this his team.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: That was one of the best collapse that they did.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I was was that the first time they ever did that.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: That was fired up. Bro Ma Mama called me like,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: get that prince dressing. Baby, it's gonna be a lot
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Up there. I said, can you sign this? Mother? It's
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: how much of people house?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: He signed it for me?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I signed it, and somebody took
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: that bitch. Yeah you signed and put it in the locker.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Nigga. I came back, it was gone. Was one of
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: the quick Yeah, right now, I can. I know so
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: many was asking for that ship. I was I want
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: to ask another one. I'm like, damn, right after this
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: interview with that jersey before for that mother, right now
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: he had them Jersey. I said, Yeah, that was a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: hell of experience.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: That was.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: That was dope.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: That was his house was crazy. That's one of the
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: craziest homes I ever been to. I don't still respect him.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: He's a legend and I'm talking about in the house
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the rules, No.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: Nigga, don't touch. I can't touch as if he's still there.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: I've never saw that.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: One nigga be gentle around. That was like, don't shoot
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: on that goal. Like I was like, Damn, they said
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: that they used to hold to I love to meet
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: him like that, but the.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: Same food me. You like, you can't bring no meat,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: no other ship in the crib. They still respect him.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: I never saw nothing like it. Damn, that's not all
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: we got. I gotta ask we brought off the jerseys.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: How does it feel to still see you know what
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people wear your jersey? Because I know,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: like we always talk about the jerseys like that, like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: that baby Blue Nuggets, Mellow jersey, but that Number one
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: boy jersey.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Man, that's like a hood legend jersey. Like everybody in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Even you go to the Fright House of the Crazy
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: White Boys playing Beer Paul, they got a de bro jersey.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: How does it feel for that, like to that universal
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: moments like everybody like, no matter where my boy, we
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: fucking with that jersey.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude, appreciative,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And not to make y'all
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: got like some humor ship, but.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Now you bro.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: Straight, bro straight, some people need to hear.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But yeah, just living in gratitude, bro, and that's
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: one of the reasons why I think wanted to come
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: here and show loveious West Ship. Like I said, for
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: sure man. Man, Like I said, we appreciate you, appreciate
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: you giving us this moment. Man, It means a life
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: for both sides.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: We can't wait to see what you do next.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: You know, got the team gonna keep creating, man, We're
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna push and support that.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Before we get out of here. Be here and tell
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: the people that can grasp some March at.
• 1:17:10
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