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RIP, The Streets Is Dead · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
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  Speaker 2: who talks back.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, it's your grade a bay a j holiday.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start tandem, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It's me Tammam. I love y'all so very very much.
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  Speaker 2: How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 1: I don't do much. Do y'all feel like fall came
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  Speaker 1: fucking early? Because why is it like extra breezy outside?
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of warm this weekend, but it was
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  Speaker 1: definitely cool. I probably could have flown my kite my kites,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I ain't do much for the Labor Day weekend, relaxed,
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  Speaker 1: chill shop, some deals, fashion over half fifty percent off.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of good sales this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: It was Raquel's birthday. Shout out to my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Cow with cal so many years.
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  Speaker 2: She had like a little cookout. So I went over
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  Speaker 2: to that and that was a good time. We was
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  Speaker 2: playing past the ox. Nobody liked none of my music
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  Speaker 2: except for maybe like once or twice.
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  Speaker 1: Happened into me too. I'm like, y'all just ratchet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like I got old school ship.
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  Speaker 2: No, we were doing a lot of old school stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but they just didn't want to hear what I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to hear. And then I played one song that just
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  Speaker 2: came out by Big X the Plug on his new album,
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  Speaker 2: and they was like, yeah, that's some ship. You need
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  Speaker 2: to listen it to the car by yourself.
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  Speaker 1: So wait, what what what was you trying to play
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  Speaker 1: aside from now? Because I haven't heard that song?
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're happy by Big EXT the Club it's
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  Speaker 2: country and Big X it's Luke Kohm's in Big Club.
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  Speaker 1: Hard.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't want to hear that shit. But yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: had a good time drinking and eating and talking shit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and we drank some rare Lee bray. You know, everybody
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  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. So I posted that on the story
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  Speaker 2: everybody had. That's a nice shotow rare Lee Bray. Y'all
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  Speaker 2: try it when you get a chance. But that was
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  Speaker 2: my weekend.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds good. I don't do much again, same shit,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I just feel like I didn't get no
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  Speaker 1: sleep this weekend either, Like I was up.
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  Speaker 2: Your boo was in town y.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna be mentioned in my boo every episode okay, well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you know offline if he is. No. I
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  Speaker 1: was very upset about it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get in the sands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Now I know everybody has been seeing not
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  Speaker 1: even the back and forth. Cam Newton is like almost
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  Speaker 1: like he specializes in embarrassing Jasmine Brown. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: just feel like he does. I don't know how everybody
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  Speaker 1: else feels, but it just every time he opens his
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  Speaker 1: mouth up. Anytime somebody asked him about his relationship recently,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot who was on the show who he was interviewing,
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  Speaker 1: but they or maybe he was on somebody else's show,
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  Speaker 1: but they asked him basically like, are y'all even dating?
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  Speaker 1: Imagine somebody asking your baby daddy, you're pregnant with his
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  Speaker 1: second child, with your second child with him, because he
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  Speaker 1: technically this is his eighth kid on the way, right,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he has two kids that he raised,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from his ex from his ex child, right exactly, Chah,
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  Speaker 1: But imagine somebody asking, like, are y'all like at least dating? Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she lives there, but why won't you put a title
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  Speaker 1: on it?
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  Speaker 2: I think she knew what she signed up for with
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  Speaker 2: that nigga though, especially with kid Too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I really think she thought she was gonna
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  Speaker 1: get a different type of treatment. I really think, because
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  Speaker 1: do you remember do you remember, like do you were
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  Speaker 1: you ever watching Jazzmine Brown, like back before Cam Newton.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like funny. She was like funny, right,
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  Speaker 2: And a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of her commentary was like anti Pygneicia. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, basically making fun of women in this
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  Speaker 1: same type of situation. You signing up for it, and
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  Speaker 1: you do ran into the fucking thanos of modern women,
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  Speaker 1: and he'd turned you into a Pygneicia.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, that's crazy. I don't know. I don't but their
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  Speaker 2: post that she made is a bit telling, or we
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  Speaker 2: would assume. So Jasmine Brown made a post that said
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  Speaker 2: transparency moment, and she says, if God gave me a son,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be so nervous because I feel like I subconsciously
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  Speaker 2: raise him to be a man I can only dream
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  Speaker 2: of but never experience. And that's traumatic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So a lot of people have been reading into
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  Speaker 1: that and feel like it suggests that she is now
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  Speaker 1: like having a come to moment and realizing the depths
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  Speaker 1: of what she has got herself. Involved with. And I
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  Speaker 1: also saw some people ripping her like, oh, I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel bad for her. And I saw one comment say,
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  Speaker 1: while she's worrying about the type of man she is raising,
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  Speaker 1: she needs to be concerned about the type of woman
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  Speaker 1: she's raising too, mm hmm, because your daughter gonna get
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  Speaker 1: the same type of treatment you receive essentially whatever they see.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That makes me think of Yah Yah Mayweather and
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  Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, you know, because she seemed like she like
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  Speaker 2: settles with NBA boy a lot. Perhaps I don't want to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, speak out a turn because I really don't
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  Speaker 2: know their relationship, but I always wonder what type of
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  Speaker 2: woman she would turn out to be, with her father
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  Speaker 2: being someone who seemingly was a womanizer, and out of
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  Speaker 2: all the men that she could have fell in love with,
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  Speaker 2: young boy seems like he's very you know, lost lost
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  Speaker 2: out here, so mental health issues and all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: things going on. But that's just me speculating. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what they got going.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I think also a part of it
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  Speaker 1: is just like who he is, right, he's one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest rap artists out here. I'm saying, your dad
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  Speaker 1: is one of the biggest athlete athletes out here. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the type of lifestyle she chasing,
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  Speaker 1: that's the type of man you're gonna end up with.
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  Speaker 1: I would think that. I mean, her mom seems like
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  Speaker 1: a well drownded person, but I don't know. Maybe they
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  Speaker 1: didn't raise her right.
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  Speaker 2: Well. More power to all those people, you know, hopefully
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  Speaker 2: it didn't work out in their favor. That's all I
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  Speaker 2: can say. Shit, I ain't got no niggas, so I
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  Speaker 2: can't even talk. That's how I feeling like we Remimedy man,
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  Speaker 2: a good man in the name of Jesus say man,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of having a man in marriage and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Offset was on the Philsen podcast and he said that
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  Speaker 2: he thinks that other men should not be married. So
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  Speaker 2: the thirty one year old podcast host asked him what
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  Speaker 2: advice did he have for him. Did well, he suggests
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  Speaker 2: that he not be married, and he said, don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just not he said. At first, he said,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can try it out, but really, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't do it. And he was like, you just
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  Speaker 2: lose yourself in a marriage, basically is what he said.
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  Speaker 2: You have to prioritize in a commedary. Else Yeah, other people,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess it's just bad.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently offset he was on a podcast called Philson Podcast, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then there was a red car, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where that was, what event that wasn't that was?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the either the Shade Room or
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  Speaker 1: maybe Hollywood unlocked people. They were asking different men in
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  Speaker 1: the industry. You had Tie Dollar Sign.
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Hamila married for twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Years, Anthony Hamilton a grown ass man with adult children
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  Speaker 1: at this point from maybe his marriage so and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them had a lot of positive things to
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  Speaker 1: say about marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they all supported marriage, even even when his eyes
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  Speaker 2: looking all black, was like, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he married a good thing, and sh.
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  Speaker 1: I just think you know, Tie dollar Sign made a
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  Speaker 1: very good point and uh he said that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people don't realize like how like the we don't have
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  Speaker 1: any money in the black community, the black dollar last
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  Speaker 1: one second, mm hmm, And I say, we don't have money.
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  Speaker 1: We make lots of money, but we are the consumers, right,
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  Speaker 1: so we we are not We're not gonna We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: continue to be in the position we are in society
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  Speaker 1: until we put back the emphasis that needs to be
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  Speaker 1: on family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was vic Mensa was like you know the
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  Speaker 2: uh oh right, okay, yeah, yeah, the.
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  Speaker 1: No Actually it was tied at a sign, but they
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  Speaker 1: had the captions wrong at the top. Remember I said
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  Speaker 1: that when we were looking at it, they had the
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  Speaker 1: captions wrong at the top of the conversations. So the
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  Speaker 1: person's name didn't match what they said.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the Oh so that wasn't him talking when
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  Speaker 2: he said that.
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  Speaker 1: That was tied out of shang so and that and
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  Speaker 1: that's just the truth because I think that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of black men don't realize and like Anthony Hamilton, Hamilton said,
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  Speaker 1: the type the covering you get when you're in a
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  Speaker 1: marriage women a good woman like men think they have
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  Speaker 1: to wait until they get their bag together and all
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  Speaker 1: that shit to get married. That shit will come once
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  Speaker 1: you get a wife. Like if y'all want to pull
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  Speaker 1: anything else out the Bible, it says he who finds
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  Speaker 1: a wife finds a good thing. That's where your money's
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  Speaker 1: gonna come from. If that's what you that's all you
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to do, that's where he's going to
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  Speaker 1: come from. You gotta get a woman. You gotta get
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  Speaker 1: a wife. You got to start a family, because that's
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  Speaker 1: going to give you the motivation to get to where
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  Speaker 1: you're going. Like you can't do it by yourself. This
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  Speaker 1: life is built off of double occupancy. Yep, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I agree, So I don't agree with
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  Speaker 1: all said. So you basically you got three kids with
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  Speaker 1: Cardi B. At this point, he's just a man's scorn
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think. He's a man scorn. He's hurt
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  Speaker 2: and he don't have nothing positive to say about marriage
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  Speaker 2: because he just you know, he just went through it.
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  Speaker 1: We'd be saying a lot of positive things about Cardi B.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times he'd be like, yeah, I fucked up,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying when somebody actually ask him.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, if he's behind the phone, eating and ship,
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  Speaker 1: he'd be saying a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Rat You know, he bitter right now. You know he
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  Speaker 2: bitter about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know the picture of Mari the other day.
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  Speaker 1: He just like might be a major band, right he
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  Speaker 1: likes taunting her?
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  Speaker 2: Who do that? But a bitter nigga? Who want to talk? Taunt?
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  Speaker 1: Mean person? Just a mean person? He don't necessarily have
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  Speaker 1: to be bitter. I really don't feel like he liked
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  Speaker 1: Cardi b from the beginning because I remember an interview
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  Speaker 1: when they first started dating and somebody asked him if
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  Speaker 1: he loved her, and he basically basically alluded to the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he got with her because he saw where
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  Speaker 1: she was heading at. That was the gist of what
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  Speaker 1: he was saying, Like she hard working, like it was
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  Speaker 1: nothing about love, it was nothing about wanting a family
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  Speaker 1: with him. I remember Cardi be being on the Breakfast Club,
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  Speaker 1: and she knew exactly when she wanted children, and she
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  Speaker 1: knew exactly when when she wanted to be married, right,
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  Speaker 1: and she did those things. She chose a man and
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  Speaker 1: she try to make a husband out of him, But
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  Speaker 1: that nigga is exactly who who he is from day one.
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  Speaker 1: This is somebody else's baby daddy.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I think women be tricking themselves and they thinking that
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  Speaker 1: they gonna get better treats because it's because it's me,
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  Speaker 1: no bitch like you get You're gonna get the same treatment.
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  Speaker 1: Until a man is ready to change. There's nothing you
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  Speaker 1: can do and change that man. And that's a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, but I mean sometimes I feel like sometimes
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  Speaker 2: men do change when they get a little older and
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  Speaker 2: take some wisdom and time, and they'll get you might
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  Speaker 2: get a different nigga. You might. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: seen women go through the trenches with a nigga and
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  Speaker 2: I mean come out clean on the other side sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: but it's rare.
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  Speaker 1: Heavily bruised, heavily get up and bruised, and they look
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  Speaker 1: older than the man by the time they come out
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  Speaker 1: on the other side. Y'all, don't let don't let don't
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  Speaker 1: let the men steal your youth because we are the
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  Speaker 1: empaths we are. They take from us, right, so we
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  Speaker 1: give them the life and energy to do all the things,
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  Speaker 1: and then you'd be depleting yourself. So doing it for
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  Speaker 1: the right person in your family, not some fucking nigga
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  Speaker 1: who don't even consider you. For real, We're making major
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  Speaker 1: life events like they gonna put a baby on you,
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  Speaker 1: in you and that's it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I agree. Did you see Cardi B was leaving
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom. Cardi B was leaving the courtroom, y'all, and
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  Speaker 2: a reporter asked her about her getting a paternity test
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  Speaker 2: for Stefan Diggs and this bitch threw our phone at
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  Speaker 2: this nigga. Quick me, I'm talking about realick. She's literally
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  Speaker 2: walking out of court for assault when a security guard
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  Speaker 2: and assaulted somebody else outside the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, I don't even fuck with y'all say. Cardi B
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  Speaker 1: is a real nigga times ten, even though she says
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  Speaker 1: she and black me neither bitch like. She's literally in
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  Speaker 1: court because she assaulted a security guard at the hospital
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  Speaker 1: when she went for a doctor's appointment when she was
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  Speaker 1: pregnant before. I feel like she's I think this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna get thrown out. I don't even know why this
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  Speaker 1: is such entertainment, Like what are y'all distracting us from
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  Speaker 1: with this bullshit? Right because basically, the lady was out
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  Speaker 1: of place. She was out of bounds taking videos and
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  Speaker 1: photo of Cardi B. Cardi B asked her to stop,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, pregnant woman, I'm gonna blame everything
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  Speaker 1: on her hormones and shit, I'm pregnant again now. I
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  Speaker 1: just watched the video of her yawning in the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: right with Cardi B. This bitch has been pregnant for
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  Speaker 1: three years. She is not having it right now. She's
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  Speaker 1: fucking mad.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's a good idea to hit
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: somebody else and be back in court mixed.
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  Speaker 1: She got a lot of fucking money, right, I.
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  Speaker 2: Get what she was saying, like, don't be asking me
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  Speaker 2: disrespectful questions. She hasn't even announced that she's pregnant. You
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  Speaker 2: talking about the fraternity tests, like, get on her face? So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, But.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking are real niggas about fraternity tests for one of
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  Speaker 1: the existing babies?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe maybe, but either way, she wasn't having that year,
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  Speaker 2: she said me. But speaking of real niggas. So ah
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: came up with this one, y'all. And I think this
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  Speaker 2: is a really good topic because it's been a conversation
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  Speaker 2: going around, buzzing around lately. The streets is dead? Is
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  Speaker 2: that true or not? Streets?
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  Speaker 1: The streets been?
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  Speaker 2: No, they made a statement, They asked a question. They said,
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  Speaker 2: the streets is dead. But we're gonna talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Is it really true?
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  Speaker 1: It been there as far as I'm concerning. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it when we come back after this break.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be back.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, did y'all follow the young Thug trial at all?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Did you followed it all?
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  Speaker 2: I did a little bit just for Woody. Woody was
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  Speaker 2: funny to watch.
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  Speaker 1: He just recently got into accident on the motorcycles.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did. I saw that. But he's okay, so
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: that's great.
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  Speaker 1: One of my cousins, man, she was watching this ship
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  Speaker 1: like a daytime soap opera. So I found myself like
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: tuning in periodically to see what the fuck was up.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Just being nosy personally because I have had my own
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: shit in the past. I do not like to really
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: get involved in other people's legal issues. Yeah, okay, most
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: real niggas ain't getting involved. Don't even want to hear about,
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  Speaker 1: don't even want to know about what somebody else is
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  Speaker 1: going through in the court system. M but hey, so
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  Speaker 1: now it's public, and now there's the great debate about
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  Speaker 1: rather or not the streets is daddy, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: hip hop they've always upheld this no snitch and shit,
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  Speaker 1: which eighty percent of people in prison snitched?
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  Speaker 2: All right, so let's define the word, like what is
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  Speaker 2: a snitch to you?
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  Speaker 1: Can I finished my talking?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, go ahead, I'm sorry, I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Forgot what I was trying to say. Okay, eighty percent
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  Speaker 1: of people in prison probably cooperated and the twenty percent
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  Speaker 1: that didn't usually have the most time.
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  Speaker 2: M hm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was trying to say, and I
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  Speaker 1: would have finished and stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So what is a snitch to you?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? Personally? To me, a snitch? This is my personal
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: definition of a snitch. Like, say, for instance, you and
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  Speaker 1: I together and matter of fact, we're not even together.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody gets arrested for some shit and then they
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  Speaker 1: start telling on things that have nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: the reason that they were arrested, to me, that's a snitch.
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  Speaker 1: So now you're cooperating, you're giving out names and situations
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  Speaker 1: of other things to get time reduction. To me, that's
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  Speaker 1: a snitch.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I got arrested when I was twenty for driving or
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: driving with a suspended license, right, and I'm in what's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the jail in Columbia, Alvin? Yeah, Yes, I was there.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: They had no room for the amount of people that
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: was there, so they had men and women like in
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: a holding area all night long. Right, So might I
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: might have got there like two o'clock in the afternoon
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and didn't get out to like four o'clock in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: morning on a fucking PR bond. But this is a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: very very interesting experience. And I distinctively remember a guy
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: on the phone yelling and talking loud and cussing somebody's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: mom out because apparently he lets somebody drive his car.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: That person commits a murder in his car. He's driving
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a car, so he gets pulled over and taking into
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: for custy, and now he is calling them like, hey,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm giving your son twenty four hours to come down
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: here and turn their self in because I'm not going
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to jail for that shit. M that's not snitching.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: No.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like the person on the outside, come free me.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You know I don't do that shit, So why are
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you gonna let me take twenty years for you, years
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of my whole life for you. Like the no snitching
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: shit never made sense to me, And I feel like
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: snitching is only okay when you need one. Like if
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: somebody family member get murdered, they want to know who
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the fuck did it?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know if that remember.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Murder somebody else, they don't want nobody snitching, right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Snitching is to me is like if you're involved in
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: some shit and you are telling just to save yourself.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: But if you are a law biding citizen, and you
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: witness a crime and you inform the police on what
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you witness. You are not a snitch. You are a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: citizen of your community and you're trying to keep it safe.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You're a civilian.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it, you know. I don't think that's snitching.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: So like, please, if you see somebody kill my cousin,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: please tell you know, please?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody hate a snitch until they need one. I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: remember when Gunnar first had gotten out and everybody was
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: calling him a snitch, right, mm, Gunna got out on
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like this thing called alf Alfred plea. Basically, it's like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: let me, let me see exactly what the fuck the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Alfred Alfred Please, that's what he I remember watching, like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: when he hold on a second, hold on? All right,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: So the Alphord plea allows the defendant to enter a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: guilty plea while still maintaining their innocence. It's a tactical
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: decision made when a defendant believes the prosecution's evidence it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: too strong to risk a trial, but they don't want
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to admit guilt. So now, I don't think the state
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: ever had a strong case any of these niggas. Like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: if everybody just shut the fuck up, up and let
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the police do their job. Most of these cases get
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: thrown out. It is because of the cooperation of people
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that they're even able to build cases oftentimes right. So,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: when he first got out, I remember I commented on
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a post somebody was calling him a snitch, and I said,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you know what I said, most of y'all are civilians.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you will do if you were
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to be in this situation.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I know exactly what I would mean. I know exactly
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: what I would do, and that's why I don't commit crime.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't participate in crime. If I'm thinking, what a nigga,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: who's a criminal, I'll be like, look, don't tell me shit.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I don't want to know shit about nothing you're doing.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Don't tell me how you do it, don't tell me
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: how you got it. Because when the police asked me
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: what I know, I want to say I don't know
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: shit and be telling the truth. You know. So, yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I'm because if I get in trouble, y'all going to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: see me right in with my arms my sleeves, my
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: arms in my sleeves like this with a chicken in
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: front of me, because I'm not going to jail.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: The Orange.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to jail. I'm not the girl, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that's why I don't commit crimes because I'm not her.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I saw this thing. Me and my friend was talking
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: about it. If your man was facing twenty years and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you could do three for his crime, would you do
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to three so he don't do twenty? No? Hell no,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. My best friend said she would
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: do it. Oh, you a better bitch than me, because
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: first of all, I don't encourage no man to be
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: participating in criminal activity that will get him locked up
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: away from me and our family. Do find some legitiate
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to do. There's a lot of legitiate you can be doing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: But what I'm not gonna do is be away from
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: my kids and my family for three years because of
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: what you chose to do with your life. No, I'm
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: not doing that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I think most women are in prison because they cover
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the man. A lot of women are in p shit.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: They did not do being a real bitch, down bottom bitch,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and they took the charge for a man. That's why
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Like the argument with Tory Lanez and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Meg thee Stallion and the homegirl Kelsey. So now like
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the thing is is that Kelsey actually shot Meg thea stallion.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I know you've seen that theory, right, And and Tory
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Lanez basically took the charge. When did have y'all ever
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: seen a man take a charge for a woman when
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: usually they trying to throw drugs in a bitch purse.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I've seen her like that. I literally saw this shit
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: today about this woman. She was talking about how she
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: was in love with this man. They were in love
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: with each other and she got in trouble, they got
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: pulled over. If he got the charge, he was gonna
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: do a whole bunch of time because he had he
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was a third would have been a third time of
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: fit like that. But she never had no charges, so
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: she was like, I'm gonna take the charge for you.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And she was like she was thinking, because I never
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: had no charge, I wasn't gonna do no time. She
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: said no, the judge and was like, I'm gonna make
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: an example of you. And she got eight years eight
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: years in prison, and then she said, after two years
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: of serving time, the nigga stopped taking her calls, stop
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: sending her money, stop putting money on her boat, stop
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: taking her caws, and then end up working with a
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: homegirl of hers and they had a baby together. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: she came home and the niggas she said, before the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: baby was born. He ended up getting in trouble again
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: for the same shit. But and he got ten years.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: But she had to sit down for eight whole years.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: She had to do the whole eight before she could
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: come home.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's best bullshit. That is a lot
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of women's stories in prison. So men have community of
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: holes to take care of them, to take phone calls
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: depending on what type of money you had on the streets, right,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna and then not even that, they get on
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: those dating links and stuff like that, and they want
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: be the fat white lady to take care of them.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Like men be having shit set up. Women really be
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in prison with nobody.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Me and mama.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I used to always be.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I was enamored at one point. I just always want
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to know the reason why people were going to jail,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: like the psychology of this, So I would sit for hours.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Like Houston, if you go on their website, they actually
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: have like the last words for like people they execute
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and shit like that their last statements. It's real airy
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and I just always would just go through to see
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: what are people going to jail for, like what's the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: most like what's happening? And women a lot of times
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: if in Texas in particular, they'll have like the whole
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: we can read the whole case. These women be going
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to jail for men, So the women don't snitch. Women
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: are way more loyal than men are. It's just facts.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So snitching has always been a thing. Like I think,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: like the no snitching rule, I should probably started with
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the mob, right. You know, black men love to name
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: themself after some mob boss, right, and like Lucci, Gucci,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: whoever else? You know what I'm saying. Like, and now
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I was so like confused researcher trying to figure out
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: what the fuck was going on with Young the Gun
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and all these people you got p on following on Instagram.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: There are white people with a million views on YouTube
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: talking about this ship calling Atlanta rat Atlanta. Like, imagine,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: y'all are not off the culture. Y'all ain't even in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the streets. So this is the bullshit y'all trying to uphold.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And you got people making, you know how much money
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they making off a million views? We can't even capitalize
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: off of snitcheon snitching or not snitching. That's not ship,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Like what are y'all doing it for at this point?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So to me, the streets been there, and I just
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: really want to redefine what a real nigga is. Real
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: nigga is somebody who takes care of their fucking family,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: who's not about to crash out one second spliting motion,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and leave children behind, leave
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: their woman behind, lead their whole family behind, or just
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: even just getting murdered in the street, murdering somebody else.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: You take our two niggas at one time when somebody
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: kills another, when a black man kills another black man, right,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: so one going to prison one dad?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Right? Uh? At one point, so real nigga meant something
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: like someone solid, respecting in the streets and lived what
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: they wrapped and upheld the quote and I put that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: in quotations the code. But I think the standard for
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: a real nigga has evolved very much in our today's society.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: So now it's not about crime or street times, it's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: about authenticity of self for real, Like you got like
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: people like Kendrick Lamar and Jake Cole and even drink
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: at times, Like who pushed vulnerability and healing and emotional honesty.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a different kind of real that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: really stands out now versus just being on some street
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: cred ship.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think young Thug this is the this
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: is the I think what he represents the young thug
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: archaeotype of a black man, of a real nigga. I
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: believe this is an end. This has always been a facade.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Nigga's been snitching. There has really never been any street code,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: no principles. These young guys, the skinny jean wearing niggas
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: like they they've been on this type of time, Young Thug.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: All of all these phone calls was with Maria the scientist,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: him like venting to her about other niggas, like just
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: real real chatty patty shit.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: You on the phone with the scienceist talking about.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: All probably just sitting there like yes, baby like her
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: baby like she listens to all that. Daddy, am I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: her baby.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Red she cleared her through.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I'd be doing that shit randomly on the phone sometimes, Daddy,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: am I your baby girl? I know she probably sitting
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: lay like how you laying next to this nigga? Hein't
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: no real nigga, Like, why you laying next to him now?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: How you feel about him right now?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: But I don't think she probably think he's the realist
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: nigga living. If she's in love with him, she doesn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: care what nobody say. You know how that be when
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: you're in love with a man.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So is that tweet real? The tweet where he
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: was saying like, can't nobody like basically saying everybody gay
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta and can't nobody come around little baby with
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: skinny jeans on? Did somebody create that?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was real. It was funny, though, I.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Want to know if that was real. So in one
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of the phone calls, she was talking shit about about PE,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: basically saying like he you know p is P and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: coach K they were the owners of Quality Control. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: believe they sold that shit for like three hundred m's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in twenty twenty three. So young
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Thugs basically saying like he's a snitch. Also right, so
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: qc P he uh went to Instagram, he said imagine
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: some broke ass rats like and he actually at young
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: thug pee wee rat skull trying to run a rat
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: narrative on me and all my niggas that I love
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: running with. These whole ass whole Let me back up,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: trying to run a rat narrative on me and all
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: my niggas that I love running with.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I couldn't understand that shit.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's no periods, no no punk.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: No punk punctuation whatsoever.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said, these whole ass niggas. Knowing how
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: these niggas talk about me, I'm going to say this
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: for the last time. I'm not a street nigga, Okay.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a tax paying citizen that's running a business and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: taking care of my family. All the street niggas is broke,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: dead and in jail. Why do y'all continue to glorify
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: this shit? Street's been dead, y'all niggas gave the city
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a bad name. Now, this is a real street.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Nigga, right, he said, he ain't no street nigga, he said,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a He said he is a real nigga. I'll
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: say that this is a real.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Nigga, okay, because, like I said, real men take care
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of their families m hm. And they're not out here
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: crashing out like young thug has ruined the city of Atlanta,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: for sure. He had a lot of young men that
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: went to prison, got a lot of time. He was
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: definitely the given direction. A lot of niggas crashed out,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of young boys, a lot of young guys
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: were murdered. Like even though they they couldn't pinpoint everything
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: on him. He's not innocent, He's not this and at all.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: He took a plea deal because he had the money
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to do so. But what about goddamn tyrone who grandma,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: who was raised by his grandma, His grandma don't got
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: no money for his defense.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Right, there's one hundred years and then you get enough
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: pussy on money outside and you are Yeah, and there's
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: just consequences of street rap. We see it. You know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it's been consequences for over a decade. You're gonna end
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: up dead, You're gonna end up jail. You're gonna be
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: fighting rico cases like mm hmm, let's let that go,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: you know, let's let that and then all right, so no.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Money, you're not making any money Like that's that's really
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the mind boggling part. Like y'all haven't even lived enough,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: you haven't had enough experiences for real, most of these guys,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and they just crash out real young, real early. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I do blame some of the older men, the older guys,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: because they'll they'll employ the young boys to crash out
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: M h.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: That's terrible. So that that archetype needs to die as well.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And with the globalization of hip hop, like hip hop
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: is the biggest genre in the world right now, you
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: got Asian rappers, Latin American United Kingdom doing anything, and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: none of them like even understand or have not indocrinated
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the street rules. That's no longer a thing. These niggas
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: want to have. They want to fly luxury and lifestyle,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Living vicuriously through these crash dummies, so they can rap
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and have you know, they can actually rap about the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: same shit, but they're not actually doing it because they're
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: smarter than that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Or they rapping about what wealth and love and shit
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: like that. They're not even rapping about those street shit.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It's terrible, and they're and those and that type of
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: music is outperforming drill music. Let's be clear, you know
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: they are performing. You know, the.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Drill music really didn't only lasted like what a summer or.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Two it's still drilling out terrible. The all the drill
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: used to be dying so fast, you know, like the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: turnover rate is high. The turnover rate is very high
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: for this ship, or not even just dying. They going
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: to jail. What's the dirt?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about Dirk. I really feel like
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: young Thum might have something to do with why he
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: handed him up right now, because remember he beats some
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: charges like twenty two to twenty three and basically he
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: uh blamed everything on what's the one that passed away?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Girl?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Listen, I don't know all these drill.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Auntie the nigga who I know what
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. Yeah, but I can't put my finger
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: on his name right now if I wanted to.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Turn Yeah, this conversation is definitely just coming from grown
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: women who will be raising children in this fucking world.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you talked to twenty two year olds,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the conversation might be very different, you know. Like, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you niggas.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of you niggas. There are black people and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: there are niggas, You niggas. Okay, everybody ain't gonna make
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it right. Everybody ain't gonna make it, and the real
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: black people need to stand up. This is we cannot
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: keep going after other other groups of people like we
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: can't keep blaming them man, right when we are doing
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: this to our own people. At some point we got
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to take accountability because really it's always been us. Even
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the things that they do, they would would have never
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: been able to infiltrate our communities and the way they
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: do if they didn't have the help of a black
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: person of a black.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Man, right and the support. Yeah, so the.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Blame and then why you So they're snitching like in
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the streets, and then there's like whistle blowing, whistle blowing
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in corporate like which whistleblowers are selling braided Often that
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: is a snitch? Is it not a bitch tailing on
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you at work?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: But no, it depends. It depends because it's not snitching,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: because it's only snitching in if you were involved in
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: the activity and then you started telling to save yourself.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: If you see some practices that are being violated, especially
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: ones that can affect everybody, and you tell, are you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: a snitch?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: These white YouTubers stick to the whistle blowing conversations, y'all
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: are y'all are not in the streets to be calling
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a black person a snitch, right, I should rub me
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. Even though these niggas is snitching. It
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: just rubs me the wrong way that these people are
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: monetizing this conversation.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: But snitches do not, in fact get stitches six nine
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: his name. He walking around perfectly fine, you know, So
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: where are the stitches that everybody he was saying all
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: these years that people were gonna get It was a lie.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Whack one hundred Takashi sixty nine. Academics, Lord and somebody
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: else was like going on alive, like talking about the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: shit that's going I don't know how to fuck. Academics
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: stays in the midst of all us because the nigga
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't leave his home like he's in the basement streaming,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: so he too is just not a street nigga. But
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he just always has like commentary for
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: whatever is going on, and a lot of people tune
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: in to hear.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: We done did the research and got all the information.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's why they enjoyed it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: But no, he put he actually also then feeds information
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like as far as I'm concerned, DJ Academics is an
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: agent of the state, like some of the like him
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: h Vlied TV, like all of these characters. They are
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: employed by by these people, the man, as far as
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned, and they have in our community.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Non day plans. See, I don't know. I don't follow
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: none of these motherfucking people. I'll be over here waiting
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: for Devilware's product you to come out. That's where I'm at.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: This is a life lifestyle podcast, right we gotta be
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: a brisk aware of some of the shit that be
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: going on so we can have conversations about these things,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: anxiety and lifestyle.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I agree, but this ain't my wheelhouse right here, all
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: these reco cases and crime. I'm so far If you
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: would have asked me this about ten years ago, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: probably would have known more about it. But at this
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: state in my life, this ship is not on my
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: It don't come across my desk at all. I'm so
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: far removed from that. I be in a car listening
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: to R Kelly. Y'all don't judge me, let do So
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: there's that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: What did he do? Now? I don't know. It's a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I do discriminate, okay, like I don't.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It's certain brands I don't funk with after I hear
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you do certain things. You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it's people, I don't I stop sucking with. I haven't
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: drunk Starbucks ever since they hemmed up those two black
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: boys and they're uh how many years ago was that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: that they racially profiley, And it's I don't fuck with you.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I don't fuck with waffle House, So I.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Don't fuck with like I don't funk with what R.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Kelly did or his behavior, but I do fuck with
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: his music. Why do I have to?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't separate?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: How why do I have to? Yeah, like, you don't separate?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: No, he is?
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Listen you listen to some of the lyrics and those songs.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, seems like you're read at girl?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Are you ready? I was listening to the greatest sex,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the greatest you, the greatest he that's a oh my god,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Like I cannot put it down.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I want I might smash on that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this weekend.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Like I wouldn't let out of the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: world like just because it might fend to other people,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: But can I listen to it about myself? You know?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: It's still on iTunes. Apple ain't taking down.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He's still making money.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: So I don't know kills one of the best to
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: ever do it, y'all. I'm sorry to forgive me.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I swear let's do some hypothetical situations, and you do
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: in the situation. So, uh, you're riding.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: You're riding with your cousin. There's a gun in the car.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: You didn't know about it. Police pull y'all over what
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you're doing.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I'm staying quiet. I ain't saying she like, does she do?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Can't she speak?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: No?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: She got autius on a song. She don't talk.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be staying with that lady in the court
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: on the court episode. But you're staring off in the here.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: But that's me, bitch. I can't speak. I don't talk.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: She don't talk. She don't talk. She don't know how
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: to talk. That's my cousin. She don't talk. I'm quiet.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: How everybody, if there's like a recal situation, if everybody
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: really for real, if everybody just be quiet, like oftentimes
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: they don't even have a case. The case is built
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: off of what people tell.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Me saying yeah, I'm not saying shit. I'm deaf, mute.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I don't speak, I don't
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: do I can't talk right, I have the words out
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: of me.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Uh, your co worker is stealing checks and payroll is short?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: You know your co worker is stealing checks?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Are we cool? Is this my cool coworker?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Cause y'all cannot pick and choose. Bitch, you are actually
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: an accomplice if you know this person is doing this
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: thing and you don't report it.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: How I know? How can you prove? I know?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I just asked the question. I said, your co worker
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: is stealing checks and payroll is short. Your co worker
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: is stealing checks? You know your co workers stealing checks?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Shit, I don't know what the fuck
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. Whatever.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: When they pull her in HR, they be like, well,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Tammy knew.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Tammy didn't know shit. Tammy was at her desk minding
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: her business. Hi, I knew if I didn't get no
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: check from her? How I knew where my check in
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: while we in here.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all in the story. Y'all, in high school,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I had this teacher. I'm gonna say his name to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: his name is mister Sheely. You missed it. I don't
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: know if he's alive now. I don't know if it's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: social studies, no science, it was actually science. I had
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: an a in the class. Mister Sheely would do and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: say some questionable shit. I remember one day I was like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: mister Sheeley, man, you need to go ahead and cut
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that hair off because he was a playful teacher. You
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: know you got some cool teachers. I said, you need
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and go ahead and go completely bad
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: man what you're doing? And he said, I bet I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: got more hair on Mike than you got on your
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: He didn't say the words, but like he nod like down.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I got an a in the cl maybe a couple of
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: weeks later, did you was failing the class?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on? Bitches?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Who was failing the class went to the went to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the principal right saying that he had been sexually harassing him. Right,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: y'all fail in the class though?
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So now everybody getting together? Who failing? And now all
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's like sexually harassing people. I put
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: my name on the list to come and testify. Essentially, girl,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I got up now nothing, never heard of anything.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I got an a bitch. But if you saw a
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: teacher sexually harassing young students, I never seen it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Happen to anybody else. I knew what I experienced, but
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I never saw him do or say anything else sideway
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: as anybody else.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, just mind your business man, Yeah.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I mind my fucking business one because I got an
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: A and two of y'all, bitch, I know some.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Of you, but if you had as would you have
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: joined in.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be failing anyway. Y'all know I probably
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: still wouldn't up joining if I had an f I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: deserved it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, but these is motherfuckers who ain't doing shit in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the class anyway. And now you want to say that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you want to.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: But he still was inappropriate and he don't need to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: be around young children.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: It is so crazy. Like maybe three or four years
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: after I got out of high school, I went to
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: my one of my best friend's high school graduation. So
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: now I'm like, I don't know, twenty two twenty three
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and one of our and this was actually the social
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: studies teach, and I can now remember his name, mister
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Polliard mister motherfucking Pollard. He had like this red knot
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: on this. Hey, you know, white people be having all
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: these little weird growths on him. But I'm at her graduation.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They do, they do be having like weird notts and
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: lumps and stuff. I'm at her graduation. He hugs everybody,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and when he gets to me, he kisses me on
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: my fucking and I'm standing there like and everybody looking
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: at me like, and you know what he's said. I
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: always wanted to.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Do that inappropriate, Go to jail. Go to jail.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: You always wanted to do that. I just got to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: a high school a couple of years ago. You were
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: my teacher. What the fuck is happening?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: But you've grown now? I don't heard that, Oh you've
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: grown now. Yes.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I have actually had like a school resource office to
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: try to haul at me, like a couple of years
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: out of high school for sure. At the mall.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't listen. I got some stories about them
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: resource offices. Yeah. But anyway, but here's the back to
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: your scenariotion scenario though, because if I was employed by
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: a company, and y'all might be mad at me by this,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: but if it was a black girl stealing the chicks.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I would just be like, bitch, you better stop. You
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: about to get in trouble. But it was a white
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: man stealing the chicks. I'm telling I don't know why
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I would do that. What why pay roll is short? Bitch?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Payroll? That mean other employee checks are short because she's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: stealing the checks. I'm telling you, taking money out of
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: everybody else's pocket.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to tell on a black woman.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: She might be taking your check.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Girl.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: So now in order for it has to affect you directly. See,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that's where the street no snitch shit never makes sense
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: to me. People going to snitch when it's affecting them directly,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: But if it's somebody else's family, they don't see the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: need to snitch. All stop snitching. Free my nigga, Like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: your nigga is a demon out here.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, no, I get it, But I'm just saying, like,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: what y'all doing that y'all can't find out how I know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And y'all don't know, y'all somebody up here not doing
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: their job, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: know if I.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Know, other people know, right, So this is the last one.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: The cops come to you with an ultimatum, talk or
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: take the charge.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: An ultimatum. I need to hear it charge. I'm never
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: taking the charge. I don't care what happened. I'm never
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: taking no charge. If it don't belong to me, I'm
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: not taking it. If it's mine, I'll own it, but
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: it's never gonna be mine. Because I am a law body,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I am terrified to be in anybody's jail. So yes, no,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not taking no charge. I can't think of a
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: scenario where I would need to take.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: A charge your child.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I can't think of a scenario where I would need
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to because that's exactly why I'm not If I have
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: a kid, I'm not tattooing my kid's name on me
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: like these motherfuckers grow up and disappointing you and.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Now like I'm everybody is their own individual person. I'm
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: not taking a charge. You know right from wrong.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I raised you. I'm you're going to jail. I'm gonna
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: take it like I'm gonna put money on your books
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna come see you. But I'm not taking
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: no charge for you. Hell No, I am not fair
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: kind of mother. Why would you work? Why would you
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: want your mama in jail for you? You are sick. What
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: kind of nigga gonna let their mama go to jail
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: for them?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to understand. Like even older men
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: letting young boys take charges for them too, because they
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: think because they're younger, you're not gonna get as much time.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: It's just like, to me, that's that's not love. No, y'all,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about it. Any That's a lot,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of selfishness in the streets. Yea, that's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: all it is. Everybody's for themselves, Okay, so be for yourself.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Do what's best for you. You'll be out here crashing out
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: for the next nigga because they will not crash out
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for you. Women, don't be out here waiting for these
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: niggas to come home, especially if they ain't your husband. Okays,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: they're gonna come home. They're gonna get somebody pregnant the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: same fucking year they get out of jail. Yeah do
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I I'm always speaking from experience, Okay, it's not current
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: right because I learned from my lessons, right, But don't
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: don't don't do it's best for you.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Always yeah. Make And you know what, if you think
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: waiting on the nigga to come home from jail is
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: best for you, then do that too, but just be
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: willing to suffer the consequences of that, to live with
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the consequences of that, whatever that is. It might turn
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: out to be fair. Not likely, but it might. You know,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: you love giving hose hope. I do. I listen because
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I romantic, because I have to keep hope alive. You
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, That's my job out here.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I would say, more often than not, things are not
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: going to go the way you would like them to go, right,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: So do what's best for you. That is my last
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: last Or if taking the charge for a nigga is
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: what's best for you, so be it. Don't cry. I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: don't even think people realize like the toll it takes
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: on a family when somebody goes to prison, especially the mother,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and everybody's in jail with you, you call you become
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a bill. You know what I'm saying, Like, people stop answering,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: people stop writing. I don't know why we glorify as shit.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I remember my ex, one of his homeboys said basically
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: like he wished he had like the type of clout
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: my ex had without having to go to prison. Why
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: are we glorifying niggas who spent a quarter they fucking
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: life in jail anyway?
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Just not cool. Oh let me say that. I'm sorry, Millennium.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: It's not cool. It's not okay. The cool thing is
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: to get money, get a fine woman, take care of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: your children. Uh, start building some generational wealth, get some property,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Like just relax, get a porch, get a house with
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: a porch and sit outside. You know, like y'all missing
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: out on life and you locked in a cage. What
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other men? Do you really like women?
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: It's that your comfort zone, right.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: But you know sometimes they like women until they get
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: in there and they find out they like some other
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: shit too.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I understand that, but I really feel like those men
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: are already have already Uh, they have predisposed gayness.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: But I think you got if you got life in
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: prison without the possibility of parole, I would just go
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: ahead and be a gay gay.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Right, You don't need sex for survival, So you're just
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: gonna go against everything you are, right because I don't know, you.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Beat your dick.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: You don't have to have sex with a man because
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you went to prison. That's a choice. Those men are
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: already gay as far as I'm concerned. If you are
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: willing to partake in that type of shit just because
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you go do some time you're a gay man, it's okay, though.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Shit, I be a gay man. Fuck it then, cause
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I mean like, I ain't never gonna get no. You know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna get no. I'm gonna get some boosy now.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I'm a bussy lover.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Now the last last food.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I would be happy if the streets did die and
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: people started being more focused on the things that bring
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: black community back. You know. Yeah, so yeah, my last
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: last is let the streets die, Let me die, Let
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: that era be over. You know, for us, we need
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: bigger and better things. We're onto bigger and better things.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Amen, Lrip my niggas. M I love you Black people, y'all.
• 52:45
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• 53:20
  Speaker 1: To know, right, this is the this is the judgment Olympics?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Was the post I put up? Tell me a time?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 53:28
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