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Holding Space for Me with Elizabeth Cappelletti · The Trauma Therapist

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Trauma Therapists podcast. My name is gaming Person.
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Speaker 1: I interview incredible people who've dedicated their lives to helping
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Speaker 1: those who've been impacted by trauma. A big thank you
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Speaker 1: So five four, three, two and one, our folks, welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Very excited to have as my
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Speaker 1: guest today. Elizabeth Capelletti.
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth, welcome, Hi, awesome, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: It's like waiting for that, All right, Elizabeth, Here we go.
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth is a trauma informed guide and practitioner who supports
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Speaker 1: individuals navigating deep healing and transformation, particularly through ketamine assisted work.
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Speaker 1: To approach emphasizes safety, presses and integration, helping clients make
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Speaker 1: sense of and embody their experiences beyond the session itself.
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Speaker 1: She's a creator of Awaken and Integrate, a gential trauma
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Speaker 1: informed workbook designed to support individuals through every phase of
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Speaker 1: the journey, from preparation to experience to post session integration,
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Speaker 1: holding space for truth, healing, and growth. Her work centers
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Speaker 1: on honoring each person's process while fostering lasting, meaningful change.
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Speaker 1: All right, Elizabeth, just a little bit about you before
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Speaker 1: we get going share with the listeners where you're from
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Speaker 1: originally and where you are currently.
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Speaker 2: I am from Orange County originally, and I am in
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Speaker 2: Orange County, so I kind of grew up moving around
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Speaker 2: different places in Orange County. But I am currently in
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Speaker 2: San Juan Capistrano and that's in Orange County, California.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let's start. How did this begin
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Speaker 1: for you, this whole journey.
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Speaker 2: This whole ooh, yeah, it starts way way back. But
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Speaker 2: I you know, I definitely got into the field of
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Speaker 2: being a therapist because of growing up in a family
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Speaker 2: where it was a chaotic a lot of stuff going on.
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Speaker 2: And as I went on, I was actually going to
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Speaker 2: be a kindergarten teacher, but then I took a psychology
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Speaker 2: course and absolutely liked fell in love with it, and
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Speaker 2: so I was like, being the overachiever. I'm like, I'll
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Speaker 2: be a kindergarten teacher and then go back to school
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Speaker 2: to get my PhD. That sounds awesome and feasible. So
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Speaker 2: as I went on to college, I ended up switching
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Speaker 2: tracks to psychology. And my aim initially was to go
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Speaker 2: in to help to teach people to do something differently
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Speaker 2: than what I experienced as a child, Like my parents
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Speaker 2: got divorced, and it was just so much talking about
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Speaker 2: each other, and it was just such a difficult thing
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Speaker 2: for me. So I wanted to teach people to work
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Speaker 2: on themselves. I had high hopes. So when I actually
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Speaker 2: entered the field after getting my master's degree, which there's
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Speaker 2: a whole part i'll jump back to, I started working
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Speaker 2: in this field, working with a lot of kids, and
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Speaker 2: it destroyed me. Like I was working in the highest
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Speaker 2: level of care before residential treatment, and you know, most
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Speaker 2: of the time when they have associates or interns, they
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Speaker 2: give you a lot of cases. It was so intense
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Speaker 2: that they would only give us seven cases max. Because
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Speaker 2: of the level of intensity every case there was child
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Speaker 2: to be used. Domestic violence, like poverty, is just all
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Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. I was like going in the hood,
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Speaker 2: going to some pretty intense places. And I what I
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Speaker 2: had been struggling with since I was about fourteen was
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Speaker 2: an eating disorder and anorexia bolimia, like whole mixed body
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Speaker 2: image issues. And it would it would do this through
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Speaker 2: the years, you know, like get really intense, like less intense,
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Speaker 2: get really intense. And at that point, after I've gotten
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Speaker 2: my master's degree, and here I am to help people.
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Speaker 2: I tanked. I lost twenty pounds in two weeks. My
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Speaker 2: hair was falling out.
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Speaker 1: I while you were doing this work. Yeah, as a
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Speaker 1: trainee in a sense, yep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was like I needed to tap out,
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Speaker 2: I need to go get some help. And they were
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Speaker 2: so sweet, they were like, we love you, you can come back.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I am not coming back. I don't think
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Speaker 2: I can ever work with kids again.
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Speaker 1: All right, hang on, hang on, hang on one second.
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Speaker 1: So you talked about it's want to jump back a
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Speaker 1: second if I be here. You talked about your childhood
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Speaker 1: was very chaotic. Yeah, parents divorced, uh, talking back and
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Speaker 1: forth about each other to you, guys, you just heard it?
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Speaker 2: Or oh no, I was like a therapist well before
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Speaker 2: I became a therapist.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm a little curious if we can talk
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Speaker 1: a little bit more about how you experienced that and
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Speaker 1: how that impacted you.
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Speaker 2: It was a lot, you know. I have two brothers,
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Speaker 2: an older one and a younger one, and there was
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Speaker 2: there was a lot when I was going to grad school,
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Speaker 2: there was these red flags that started coming up for me.
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Speaker 2: But I kind of meaning that we would learn about.
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Speaker 2: It's a red flag or kind of an indicator of
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Speaker 2: like some stuff happening when people have huge blocks of
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Speaker 2: memory that they don't have. And so so for me,
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Speaker 2: a lot of it I blocked out. I like literally
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Speaker 2: didn't remember most of my childhood. I can't remember a
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Speaker 2: lot before I ended up moving, when my parents got divorced.
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Speaker 2: There's little blips, but it's very it was very, very sparse,
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Speaker 2: and the ones there was things I remember hiding under
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Speaker 2: the table when my parents were fighting and screaming at
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Speaker 2: each other. I remember, you know, my brother was awful
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Speaker 2: to me. He still apologizes for that, so I'm not
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Speaker 2: trying to throw him under the bus here, but it
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Speaker 2: was there was a lot that at the time I
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Speaker 2: didn't really remember. And so as I look back, and
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Speaker 2: I've gone through all of these healing actually in the
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Speaker 2: in the aim to help other people. I've gone through
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Speaker 2: all these healing modalities to learn to help others, and
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Speaker 2: I've had tremendous healing because of it, and through it
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Speaker 2: has been a lot of uncovering of traumatic things that
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Speaker 2: I had wiped out and didn't remember. My body certainly remembered,
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Speaker 2: so the stuff that had gone on, and again I
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Speaker 2: want to be mindful not to throw people under the bus,
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Speaker 2: but there was infidelity, and then the person who you know,
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Speaker 2: entered in the middle of the marriage was then my
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Speaker 2: step parent, and so I had to go and like, oh,
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Speaker 2: this person stole your dad and there you go, and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, hi, so she never had a chance.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's all this dynamic between mom and dad
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Speaker 2: and anyway, so just a lot of chaos there that
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Speaker 2: still to this day, it's not like I remember everything.
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Speaker 2: There's things in bits and pieces, and there's still some
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Speaker 2: things that are unanswered with certain things. But one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest things that impacted me is when I was fourteen,
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Speaker 2: I met a guy, a young man who had no
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Speaker 2: business hanging out with a fourteen year old, and so
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Speaker 2: he was eighteen nineteen, and as I have is going
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Speaker 2: to choke me up because I have three daughters and
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Speaker 2: one of them who's now fourteen, and when she started
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Speaker 2: to look well she was like twelve and started looking
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Speaker 2: like she was fourteen fifteen, I started having some like
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Speaker 2: repressed memories come up and realizing, wow, what I experienced
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Speaker 2: at that age. If a fourteen year old came to
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Speaker 2: me and told me what was happening with a nineteen
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Speaker 2: year old boy. I would have to report that as
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Speaker 2: sexual abuse and so like be I was like, I
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Speaker 2: didn't hold space for little Elizabeth for so long. I
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Speaker 2: just kept going, I think like so many of us do,
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Speaker 2: and it was all about taking care of everybody else's needs.
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Speaker 2: So the work that I have been doing here now
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Speaker 2: has been about holding space for me and helping clients
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Speaker 2: to hold space for themselves, because as I was able
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Speaker 2: to do that, and even I know you've had a
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Speaker 2: lot of guests on here that do the somatic work.
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Speaker 2: So I'm trained in so many different modalities, EMDR and
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Speaker 2: you know, really connecting with the body. I was a
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Speaker 2: massage therapist too, so I could see at this point
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Speaker 2: now how they've all intersected and come together for my
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Speaker 2: own healing. But there were some before I did the ketamine,
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Speaker 2: there was some stuff coming up for me about repressed memories,
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Speaker 2: even before when I was fourteen, and there was this
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Speaker 2: physical somatic sensation that I would have And I can
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Speaker 2: remember this, like my body trying to tell me for
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Speaker 2: years and I would be like no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: I can't go there. I can't go there. I can't
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Speaker 2: go there. And so my daughter she eats pasta, and
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Speaker 2: when she eats pasta, she eats it rather quickly, like
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Speaker 2: a puppy, and it's like, oh mom, it's stuck. It's stuck.
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Speaker 2: And so there was this moment I was like, honey,
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Speaker 2: it's okay, Like, just take a breath. I'm right here
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Speaker 2: with you. And it was this aha moment of like,
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Speaker 2: I need to do that for me, and so I opened.
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Speaker 2: This was about two years ago, I would say, roughly
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Speaker 2: a year and a half, two years ago. So I
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Speaker 2: and I can't remember the timeline, but I had had
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Speaker 2: some stuff. I was starting to get these things and
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Speaker 2: then my body I think at this point I can't
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Speaker 2: remember the exact timeline, but I started having like and
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Speaker 2: I've seen this with clients too, when they something triggers
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Speaker 2: them at forty, at thirty five, at whatever age, and
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Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I don't know if I'm allowed to
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Speaker 2: curse on here. Oh, Like I'm starting to remember some
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Speaker 2: things like this is what the hell right? And so
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Speaker 2: and I'm I'm really good at holding space for other
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Speaker 2: people and not judging them and honoring where they're at.
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Speaker 2: But what started coming up, was like what does this
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Speaker 2: mean about me? Like, oh my gosh, like if these
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Speaker 2: things happened to me, and it just was this whole
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Speaker 2: like and then wanting to know, wanting to try to
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Speaker 2: figure out what happened. And so I'd be driving my
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Speaker 2: kids to school and I'm like having these flashes of
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Speaker 2: things like come in, which doesn't feel great. And so
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Speaker 2: I at some point I had gone to a new
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Speaker 2: therapist and she said, you know, some stuff might start
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Speaker 2: to come up, and I just want you to just
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Speaker 2: space for and just like notice the feelings that are
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Speaker 2: coming up in your body. So that night, the pasta
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Speaker 2: incident night, I'm laying in bed and I started having
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Speaker 2: that sensation. And what the sensation was was like I
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Speaker 2: can't move my body like I can't move, like I
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Speaker 2: feel like my body's being held down, and a sensation
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Speaker 2: of this on my head and a very strong sensation
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Speaker 2: in my mouth, like like like pushing down on my
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Speaker 2: tongue and in my mouth. And I was like, very
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Speaker 2: it was very unsettled, and I'm like, it's okay, I'm
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Speaker 2: here for you. It's okay. We're not going to run away,
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Speaker 2: you know, just as I would as for a child,
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Speaker 2: and so a lot of tears came up, and I
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Speaker 2: can remember the next day coming to the office and
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Speaker 2: telling my friend, I'm like, oh my gosh, I mean
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Speaker 2: I think this is this might be like some sexual
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Speaker 2: trauma that was happening to me and I don't and
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Speaker 2: she's like validated. Actually, before I even said what I
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Speaker 2: thought it was, she was like, that's what it sounds
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Speaker 2: like to me. And so then more of this stuff
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Speaker 2: started to come up, and it was like the floodgates
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Speaker 2: were opened, and it was like, you know, PTSD starting
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Speaker 2: to happen. Like again, I'm having a hard time being
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Speaker 2: present with my kids because I'm getting flooded and I'm
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Speaker 2: wanting to know more and more and understand. And around
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Speaker 2: the same time, there's a place called renew Ketymine over
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Speaker 2: by me and they do ketymine infusions. Before this time,
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Speaker 2: about a year and a half maybe or I don't
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Speaker 2: remember exact timeline, but I had done I had done
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Speaker 2: the mushroom journey. I had done a couple mushroom journeys,
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Speaker 2: and the first one helped me so much with perfectionism,
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Speaker 2: like it was so powerful. The second one, I got
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Speaker 2: too much. I fell and hit my head and thought
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Speaker 2: I died. It was this whole retreat. There's like fifteen
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Speaker 2: people there. I forgot this. I'm sorry. My story goes
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Speaker 2: all over the place, but this was where stuff got unlocked.
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Speaker 2: This is where stuff got unlocked. Guy. So I go
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can remember bits and pieces. There
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Speaker 2: was at one point like literally screaming, there's like fifteen
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Speaker 2: people that have paid like a thousand dollars to be here.
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Speaker 2: I have like it's probably like a movie of Don't
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Speaker 2: do Mushrooms, Like this is probably what it seemed like.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not here to say that because it was
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Speaker 2: actually a very transformational point for me. And afterwards, the
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Speaker 2: facilitator had said to me, honey, I think that there's
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Speaker 2: some things that have happened to you that maybe you
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Speaker 2: don't remember. And she goes on to share about through
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Speaker 2: one of her journeys she had a memory of being
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Speaker 2: sexually assaulted as a child, and she asked her her
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Speaker 2: mom about it later and they're like, yeah, that happened,
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Speaker 2: but they just didn't continue to talk about it. And
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Speaker 2: so she tells me that story and then tells me
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Speaker 2: this and I'm like, oh god, So this was before
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Speaker 2: the pasta incident. This is, you know, leading us up
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Speaker 2: to here. Excuse the bouncing all over. So I'm losing
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Speaker 2: my mind. I go over to this Kademie place for
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Speaker 2: by the way, as a like as a referral base,
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Speaker 2: like let's network, right, I want to learn what you do.
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Speaker 2: And so by the time I go in there, I'm
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Speaker 2: like bawling. I'm like, oh, this is go up, you know.
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Speaker 2: And they're like so awesome with me, and it's like
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Speaker 2: one me and then like a doctor and a nurse,
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Speaker 2: which is the only way I was ever going to
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Speaker 2: do a psychedelic again after that other experience. And so
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Speaker 2: I'm like, forty five minutes, I think I can do this,
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Speaker 2: and it was the most I don't know, have you
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Speaker 2: ever had any Kedemian journeys. I've ever done that, okay,
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Speaker 2: and I know everybody's experience is different. Go ahead, no, no, no, okay.
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Speaker 2: So I go in, I say all this. It starts.
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Speaker 2: They give me prepped, take my blood pressure, put the
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Speaker 2: ivy in. They start doing a meditation and the meditation
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Speaker 2: is about like worthiness and being enough, which is something
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Speaker 2: I have struggled with my whole life. And I'm like bawling,
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Speaker 2: as this is happening, and then like the meditation ends
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Speaker 2: and the music starts and I'm in. I'm like in
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Speaker 2: the medicine, And the first thing I experienced was this
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Speaker 2: love supports me from God that was so incredibly powerful,
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Speaker 2: like I just felt. The only thing I can explain
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Speaker 2: is I've got three kids, and when my children were born,
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Speaker 2: especially my first one, it was like this love that
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Speaker 2: I could like I can't even explain, but it was
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Speaker 2: towards me. And then I continued to go and have these.
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Speaker 2: So for me, the experience with ketamine is it's different
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Speaker 2: than mushrooms in that like mushrooms, I was like very
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Speaker 2: the psilocybin very like whoa. Whatever I was seeing, it
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Speaker 2: was very like real for me that the ketamine is
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Speaker 2: more somatic, and the visuals I would see are more
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Speaker 2: like as if I were to ask you to close
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Speaker 2: your eyes and visualize a tree, like you could see it,
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Speaker 2: but it's not as vibrant, like, oh my gosh, there's
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Speaker 2: a tree. So I started to have these like I
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Speaker 2: saw this mountain and underneath the mountain was the stalagmite
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Speaker 2: and this water running through and for whatever reason, for me,
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Speaker 2: like I understood what it meant. These symbols. I understood
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Speaker 2: what it meant. And and many years ago I went
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Speaker 2: through this training for hypnotherapy, which happened to be for
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Speaker 2: like sexual trauma. I didn't even realize that that's what
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Speaker 2: it was. Of course, the universe, God's calling me to
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Speaker 2: all these things, and I'm like, not me, I don't know. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so they had he had done this exercise. I'm talking
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Speaker 2: literally like almost no, I want like close to twenty
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Speaker 2: years earlier, maybe it was fifteen years. And I was
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Speaker 2: always stuck on this part that this guy said, and
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Speaker 2: it was like he would go through this whole process
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Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, you have a knee, but
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Speaker 2: you're not a knee. You have an elbow, but you're
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Speaker 2: not an elbow. You have a head, but you're not
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Speaker 2: a head. You have a vagina, but you're not a vagina.
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Speaker 2: Don't call me a vagina, not a vagina. And then
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Speaker 2: like he had said, like they could never touch who
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Speaker 2: you are, Like whoever hurts you could never touch who
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Speaker 2: you are. And in that moment, however, many years later,
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Speaker 2: it clicked in this journey and I was like, oh
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Speaker 2: my god, that message was for me. I am not
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Speaker 2: what happened to me that could never define who I am,
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Speaker 2: and for me, it was they right, because there was
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Speaker 2: multiple incidents and situations and starting to realize and wake
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Speaker 2: up to like continued things that I had happened that
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Speaker 2: I didn't label as traumatic. But as I go back,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I said no, and this
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Speaker 2: guy who's six' eight continued to move forward AND i
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Speaker 2: would have said let it. HAPPEN i was, scared SO
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Speaker 2: i went along with. It and WHEN i left that,
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Speaker 2: SITUATION i was sobbing AND i did the whole scrubbing
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Speaker 2: myself in the shower and THEN i LOOKED i, would,
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Speaker 2: oh just. Didn't it was and AS i started to
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Speaker 2: hold space like that that affected. Me that impacted. Me
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Speaker 2: and so this journey about finding my voice and holding
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Speaker 2: space for me and being able TO i had been
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Speaker 2: working on studying the boundaries and all of, that but
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Speaker 2: like my life had been so much about performance and
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Speaker 2: being perfect and trying to show up a certain way
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Speaker 2: SO i could be, enough and so much over sexualization
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Speaker 2: because for, me the message was IF i show up
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Speaker 2: that way And i'm accepted that, way Then i'm enough
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Speaker 2: Until i'm not. Right so this ketamine helped me so
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Speaker 2: much with, that and that's WHEN i left that first.
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Speaker 2: Journey that first, JOURNEY i was, LIKE i felt like
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Speaker 2: my creativity was, unleashed like. Unleashed so SO i had
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Speaker 2: been singing to my kids and making up songs for
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Speaker 2: years and there was this one you don't have to
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Speaker 2: be afraid of a daddy Long. Legs my voice a
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Speaker 2: little shaky right, now BUT i was, Like i'm going
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Speaker 2: to record this song And i'm going to make a.
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Speaker 2: Book SO i left That kademy treatment AND i made
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Speaker 2: this kid's book On canva AND i went AND i,
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Speaker 2: LIKE i did, this and THEN i recorded the damn
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Speaker 2: song AND i was, Like i'll will record it in
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Speaker 2: my closet IF i have, to because this, GIRL i
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Speaker 2: have a voice And i'm going to use. It and
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Speaker 2: it was such a powerful thing for. Me so it's On.
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Speaker 2: Spotify husband's music is in the. Background and don't judge
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Speaker 2: me by WHAT i just. Did right. Now my voice
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Speaker 2: is a little, shaky you, KNOW i have a good.
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Speaker 2: VOICE i have a good, voice and so if you
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Speaker 2: want to go and listen to. It but it's the
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Speaker 2: whole thing is how you don't have to be afraid
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Speaker 2: of a daddy long legs and that you know their
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Speaker 2: mouth is so small they can't bite, you and this whole.
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Speaker 2: Thing BUT i also realized this book isn't just about a.
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Speaker 2: Spider it's about being able to know more about things
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Speaker 2: and understand, it because when you understand, it it's not so.
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Speaker 2: Scary AND i this is the other. PART i struggled
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Speaker 2: so much with anxiety in my, life and WHEN i
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Speaker 2: have started to do the psilocybin journeys and the ketamine
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Speaker 2: and the integration, work things completely shifted for. ME i
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Speaker 2: felt free, Because, wow, GUY i had been holding on
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Speaker 2: to these things that no, WONDER i was, Scared no.
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Speaker 2: Wonder let me just stop you for a second.
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Speaker 1: Year first of, all you're. Incredible you. Are you have
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Speaker 1: this incredible presence about you THAT i can, feel and
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Speaker 1: this openness and for you to come on here and
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Speaker 1: to be sharing what you're sharing is very. Powerful people
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Speaker 1: listen to, this and of course we're all going through
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Speaker 1: our own. Shit we, are and a lot of times therapists, feel,
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Speaker 1: WELL i don't want to disclose this or disclose out
19:28
Speaker 1: or disclose. Out people are going to Think i'm not
19:32
Speaker 1: enough Or i'm not educated in. Whatever and of course
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Speaker 1: there are, boundaries of, course but people listening to this
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Speaker 1: will so clearly be able to identify with your, story
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Speaker 1: and that is very. Powerful the other part of that
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Speaker 1: is it's people like you that we want to go, to,
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Speaker 1: right people like you who have the strength to be
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Speaker 1: able to talk about that and to do what you.
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Speaker 1: Did that's the PERSON i want to go to and
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Speaker 1: have hold space for. Me SO i just want to
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Speaker 1: put that out. There it's very powerful and it's an
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Speaker 1: honor to really have you come on here and do.
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Speaker 1: That that's what this podcast is. About that's HOW i
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Speaker 1: started it BECAUSE i was listening to people share their,
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Speaker 1: story not just what they know and all their degrees
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Speaker 1: and all that other, stuff but who they. Are that's
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Speaker 1: how we. Connect thank, You so you're. Welcome so Damn, like, seriously,
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Speaker 1: man were you was there any fear at all going
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Speaker 1: into these psychedelic experiences or these ketemane Experience.
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Speaker 2: WHEN i tell, YOU i, mean IF i could bring
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Speaker 2: my friend in here and tell, YOU i MEAN i
21:02
Speaker 2: was it was. Scary LIKE i didn't even my husband
21:05
Speaker 2: knew THAT i had gone to this journey to do.
21:07
Speaker 2: THIS i didn't tell him for weeks until afterwards BECAUSE
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Speaker 2: i LITERALLY i THOUGHT i. DIED i, literally LIKE i
21:14
Speaker 2: think SO i was working on overcoming fear and there
21:20
Speaker 2: was bad choice of where they put the where we did,
21:23
Speaker 2: it there was a swimming. Pool this Is. November there
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Speaker 2: was a swimming, pool AND i was, like how AM
21:27
Speaker 2: i going to show That i'm. Brave i'm going to
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Speaker 2: go jump in the swimming pool with my clothes? On
21:34
Speaker 2: and so he came out and this lady's husband who's
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Speaker 2: like this six FOOT i don't even know. What he's
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Speaker 2: a super tall, guy and he's, like what are you?
21:41
Speaker 2: Doing like and and they had TAKE i guess part
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Speaker 2: of this is like they had taken a little bit
21:45
Speaker 2: of ashroom, steer WHICH i don't know. What, ANYWAY i
21:48
Speaker 2: go And i'm, like it's. COOL i got. This i'm being.
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Speaker 2: Brave SO i go AND i. JUMP i get in the,
21:53
Speaker 2: POOL i get up to like my, thighs and it's fucking.
21:56
Speaker 2: Cold it's. Freezing AND i get out and by the,
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Speaker 2: WAY i just generally have low blood. Pressure maybe this
22:01
Speaker 2: is like part of what. HAPPENED i don't. Know SO
22:03
Speaker 2: i get out of the pool And i'm, shaking and
22:06
Speaker 2: then ALL i remember is like, TIMBER i literally fell
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Speaker 2: straight back like a tree onto, concrete and in that,
22:13
Speaker 2: MOMENT i THOUGHT i, Died LIKE i THINK i had
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Speaker 2: a full on ego death at that. Point and SO
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Speaker 2: i was screaming BECAUSE i was in tremendous. Pain and
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Speaker 2: THEN i had three, girls one of them being LIKE
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Speaker 2: i don't know ten months. OLD i don't know how
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Speaker 2: she was at the, time AND i was, like oh my,
22:29
Speaker 2: god the story's gonna BE i died doing. MUSHROOMS i
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Speaker 2: don't even do, Drugs, like what the hell right? Now
22:36
Speaker 2: help other. People it was BECAUSE i Watched it's BECAUSE
22:39
Speaker 2: i watched That netflix series On how To Change Your,
22:42
Speaker 2: mind AND i was, LIKE i need to do this.
22:44
Speaker 2: Work this is. Phenomenal and but you, KNOW i get
22:47
Speaker 2: really excited AND i just jump in And i'm LIKE
22:49
Speaker 2: i should try this, first and so you know that whole.
22:53
Speaker 2: Thing SO i was and WHEN i tell, you, screaming
22:56
Speaker 2: and there was one point she brings me in AND
22:58
Speaker 2: i see my cards on the tape AND i freaking side,
23:02
Speaker 2: Swipe oh my, god AND i screamed my side swipe.
23:06
Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i, mean oh my. GOD i was like so mortified,
23:09
Speaker 2: afterwards and THEN i felt like and Then i'm super.
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Speaker 2: Sensitive we're In San. JUAN i don't know IF i
23:14
Speaker 2: was like channeling stuff or this is just BECAUSE i
23:17
Speaker 2: fell and hit my, head BUT i felt LIKE i
23:19
Speaker 2: was being burned at the stake and pulled, apart like
23:22
Speaker 2: it was the. Gnarliest this is not a good poster
23:26
Speaker 2: child right now for doing that. Work don't take too.
23:29
Speaker 2: Much AND i knew when she this, is this goes
23:31
Speaker 2: back to you when she gave it to. Us she
23:33
Speaker 2: WHEN i did the, chocolates it was, chocolates AND i
23:36
Speaker 2: didn't take the full. DOSE i took a little, bit
23:38
Speaker 2: a little bit. More i'm. Good this was, hey this
23:43
Speaker 2: is it was double the amount because it was like a.
23:46
Speaker 2: Tea and then she was, like, oh since you've been,
23:48
Speaker 2: microdosing it's. Okay INSIDE i was like, No BUT i
23:52
Speaker 2: wanted to be the good, student wanted to be. PERFECT
23:56
Speaker 2: i wanted to be UNTIL i wasn't so LIKE i was,
24:01
Speaker 2: terrified totally scared to go do the. Kedemene and it
24:05
Speaker 2: was completely, different by the, way WHEN i was on the,
24:07
Speaker 2: mushrooms it was like twelve, hours not of that. Intensity
24:10
Speaker 2: BUT i was not sober until like twelve or thirteen hours.
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Speaker 1: Later, wow, wow all, right let me let me just remind.
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Speaker 1: Everyone and speaking With Elizabeth, kapaletti let's kind of shift gears, Here,
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Speaker 1: elizabeth what do? You what do you do? Now how
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Speaker 1: are you working with?
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Speaker 2: People So i've been in this place of doing therapy
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Speaker 2: And i've kind of like stepping into this coaching place
24:34
Speaker 2: too Because i've, Transformed like you, KNOW i have had such.
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Speaker 2: Transformation SO i do. BOTH i do, ALL i integrate,
24:42
Speaker 2: it and but my aim is to really help people
24:45
Speaker 2: to just go from survival to safety and then from
24:51
Speaker 2: safety to elevation and transformation and living their best damn.
24:54
Speaker 2: Life finding your, voice the purpose and reason you're, here
24:57
Speaker 2: shutting all the shit like. That that is WHAT i
25:01
Speaker 2: am passionate, about and really working with people who are,
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Speaker 2: ready who are ready to do the. Work because there's a.
25:06
Speaker 2: Difference WHEN i was struggling with the eating disorder and
25:09
Speaker 2: going to, THERAPY i wanted to get, better but it
25:12
Speaker 2: wasn't that level of like shit needs to change now
25:15
Speaker 2: AND i will take accountability for. It, Right like these
25:18
Speaker 2: people are a whack. ADOODLE i grew up with like
25:20
Speaker 2: AND i know they cause a lot of, Stuff but
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Speaker 2: what AM i going to do?
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Speaker 1: Now all? Right, Right so when you work with people
25:30
Speaker 1: how do you do? That what do you do someone
25:32
Speaker 1: walks into your, Office let's say they are.
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Speaker 2: Ready number, one the first most important thing IS i
25:40
Speaker 2: always want to help somebody to feel safe and to
25:42
Speaker 2: feel seen and to feel. Connected and if you're looking
25:45
Speaker 2: for a, therapist the most important thing is. Connection that's.
25:48
Speaker 2: Huge and you, know either you get it or you
25:49
Speaker 2: don't like it's people can usually, tell like on the
25:52
Speaker 2: phone or you're diving or. Not and SO i feel
25:55
Speaker 2: Like i'm a chef BECAUSE i Have i'm trained in
25:57
Speaker 2: so many, things, HYPNOTHERAPY, amdr breath, work sound, healing, art,
26:02
Speaker 2: THERAPY i mean like tons and SO i sprinkle it.
26:06
Speaker 2: IN i mean FIRST i listen AND i hold space
26:08
Speaker 2: and then as things come, up like just. Listening i'm
26:12
Speaker 2: also an intuitive, EmPATH SO i feel. STUFF i feel
26:15
Speaker 2: stuff before other people even you. Know it's LIKE i
26:17
Speaker 2: could feel the, TEARS i could feel the pain, inside
26:19
Speaker 2: And i'll be, like what you, know what's this? About
26:22
Speaker 2: like what's going? On like what do you? Think SO
26:24
Speaker 2: i have a very gentle approach Because i'm just NOT i,
26:28
Speaker 2: MEAN i will confront things as, needed But i'll always
26:30
Speaker 2: do it in a very gentle way BECAUSE i think
26:31
Speaker 2: that when we're growing and, healing we need people to
26:33
Speaker 2: point out our. Things so one of the THINGS i
26:37
Speaker 2: have developed this program Called elevate That i'm essentially the
26:41
Speaker 2: things That i'm helping people work through is, embodiment so
26:44
Speaker 2: regulating the nervous, system, liberation releasing old, patterns identifying them
26:49
Speaker 2: these trauma responses and, imprints, expansion being able to step
26:53
Speaker 2: into a new. Identity i'm huge on, language so when
26:55
Speaker 2: we SAY i can't or or whatever labels we put on.
26:58
Speaker 2: Ourselves more last night and the guy, said you, know
27:02
Speaker 2: he's been recovered alcoholic for many, years and he's, like oh.
27:06
Speaker 2: Yeah the room's, Like i'm an alcoholic And i'm, LIKE
27:07
Speaker 2: i thought you were a, Chiropractor, like you, know stepping
27:11
Speaker 2: beyond the labels because you're so much more than. That
27:14
Speaker 2: those are symptoms just having a, vision having a clear
27:18
Speaker 2: purpose on what you where you want to go in,
27:20
Speaker 2: life and what you want to feel like having a
27:22
Speaker 2: vision of that many of us having even allowed ourselves
27:24
Speaker 2: to have that aligned. Action so helping people to really
27:29
Speaker 2: take action towards the intention of what they want to,
27:31
Speaker 2: do like that's that's in this and then the transformation
27:35
Speaker 2: really sustaining change through integration and identity shifts and then,
27:38
Speaker 2: expression finding your voice and using. It that's WHAT i
27:43
Speaker 2: want to help people to. Do so you, know it's
27:45
Speaker 2: a whole thing that just kind of, happens but really
27:48
Speaker 2: that's in all of. It it's it's and it's the
27:52
Speaker 2: core safety and. CONNECTION i want you to be excited to.
27:55
Speaker 2: Come you might be, like oh, crap we're going to
27:57
Speaker 2: work on this. Stuff she knows What i'm. Holding you
28:00
Speaker 2: can't come around me and be like holding. Stuff And
28:03
Speaker 2: i'm going to, know, Like i'm gonna totally know BECAUSE
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Speaker 2: i feel.
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Speaker 1: It what from your background allows you to do what you're.
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Speaker 2: DOING i Guess i've built up a lot of resiliency
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Speaker 2: from all the difficult Things i've been, through AND i,
28:23
Speaker 2: WELL i can't forget my, spirituality my spiritual, connection because that's.
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Speaker 2: Huge it's led me through all of. This But i'm
28:30
Speaker 2: pretty damn resilient and my desire to always want to
28:36
Speaker 2: grow and. HEAL i think that that is what allows
28:39
Speaker 2: me to do this. WORK i, THINK i don't, KNOW
28:45
Speaker 2: i don't. KNOW i haven't really thought about that, specifically
28:48
Speaker 2: BUT i think because of WHAT i WHAT i often
28:51
Speaker 2: find MYSELFS i Actually myself's myself SAYING i set it
28:54
Speaker 2: to a client the other day BECAUSE i think a
28:57
Speaker 2: lot of you out, there maybe you're going through these,
28:59
Speaker 2: things you, think what does this mean about? Me how
29:01
Speaker 2: CAN i ever do? This how CAN i? EVER i,
29:03
Speaker 2: Mean i'll be honest with. You this is one of
29:05
Speaker 2: my first times coming out and sharing all this. Stuff
29:08
Speaker 2: so not That i've been, hiding but When i've been
29:11
Speaker 2: sharing things and doing stuff on my social, Media i'm,
29:14
Speaker 2: like what AM.
29:14
Speaker 1: I going to?
29:15
Speaker 2: Say what AM i going to talk? About other people
29:17
Speaker 2: have it way worse than WHAT i went? Through or
29:21
Speaker 2: what if somebody finds OUT i was dancing on tables
29:24
Speaker 2: WHEN i was wasted at the. BAR i was really
29:26
Speaker 2: good at dancing, Too but, like what if somebody was
29:28
Speaker 2: a video of? Me, Now i'm, Like i'll own. IT
29:30
Speaker 2: i shook. IT i didn't take anything, off and even
29:32
Speaker 2: IF i did whatever it was WHERE i was, At
29:35
Speaker 2: i'm not judging anybody. Else AM i gonna judge myself for?
29:37
Speaker 2: That SO i had said to this young, GIRL i,
29:41
Speaker 2: said WHAT i went through is Why i'm able to
29:45
Speaker 2: do WHAT i do and the fact That i've overcome,
29:47
Speaker 2: it because you, Know i'm still a work in. PROGRESS
29:51
Speaker 2: i always will until the day THAT i. Die i'm
29:53
Speaker 2: always working and. Growing so just because you're walking through
29:57
Speaker 2: something like, ACTUALLY i would, say BECAUSE i can't tell
30:00
Speaker 2: you how many people have told me this that are very,
30:02
Speaker 2: sensitive AND i Thought i'm too sensitive to be a,
30:05
Speaker 2: Therapist i'm, like that's what's going to make you a
30:06
Speaker 2: damn good. Therapist that's what's going to make you really
30:10
Speaker 2: good at what you do is because you're. Sensitive can you, imagine,
30:13
Speaker 2: like how COULD i do this work and? Not you,
30:15
Speaker 2: KNOW i HAD i not walked through WHAT i went,
30:18
Speaker 2: Through so HOPEFULLY i answered your. QUESTION i.
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Speaker 1: Did, YEAH i appreciate, that you, know just jumping back
30:25
Speaker 1: to when you were talking about working with those kids
30:29
Speaker 1: and how a lot of things were coming up for.
30:31
Speaker 1: You do you look back or how do you look
30:40
Speaker 1: at that experience now having gone through everything you've gone.
30:45
Speaker 2: Through, well the funny part was is that WHEN i
30:48
Speaker 2: went back to work AND i answered AN, AD i
30:52
Speaker 2: made SURE i wasn't going to work with kids, again
30:53
Speaker 2: and THE ad was working with. Adults and WHEN i
30:55
Speaker 2: called and they finally called me, back it was working
30:58
Speaker 2: with kids AND i was, LIKE i Can't AND i
31:01
Speaker 2: went in and it was vastly, different and so there
31:04
Speaker 2: still was a lot of, stuff but it taught. Me,
31:09
Speaker 2: actually what it taught me is that it's not my
31:11
Speaker 2: job to fix anybody. Else that was WHAT i learned
31:15
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i thought that's that's WHAT i needed to. Do
31:17
Speaker 2: and WHEN i let go of that AND i, Understood
31:20
Speaker 2: i'm a, Guide i'm a. TEACHER i am a. Healer
31:22
Speaker 2: but healing happens like through, Me LIKE i feel like
31:25
Speaker 2: from divine. Source if you want to Call, god whatever
31:28
Speaker 2: word you want to, USE i Say. God it flows through.
31:31
Speaker 2: Me and Sometimes i'm, like where the hell did that come?
31:33
Speaker 2: From THOSE i WISH i had that on. Record that was.
31:35
Speaker 2: Amazing now my, JOB i can't fix anybody. Else how
31:40
Speaker 2: CAN i work for one hour with somebody in a
31:42
Speaker 2: week and they have all those other? Hours LIKE i
31:44
Speaker 2: can't control?
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Speaker 1: That, elizabeth love, It love it all? Right how do
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Speaker 1: people learn more about you what you elevate?
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Speaker 2: With, yeah elevate With elizabeth dot. INFO i couldn't get
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Speaker 2: the dot com, sorry, Guys so elevate With elizabeth dot.
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Speaker 2: Info And i'm on social. Media elevate With elizabeth one
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Speaker 2: for many of, them BECAUSE i couldn't just get elevate With.
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth i'm rolling with. It done beats. Perfect that beats
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Speaker 2: perfect right?
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Speaker 1: Now you had an offer for our, Listeners oh.
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Speaker 2: YES i do. So as you've seen and, HEARD i
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Speaker 2: have struggled with a lot of anxiety through my, life
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Speaker 2: and SO i have taken the twenty years THAT i have,
32:27
Speaker 2: learned grown all the, trainings AND i put them all
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Speaker 2: into this one. Offering in this, program it's called Break
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Speaker 2: free From, anxiety A return To, yourself and in, IT
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Speaker 2: i share STORIES i have like so many things that
32:41
Speaker 2: kind of go into because a lot of us have,
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Speaker 2: anxiety don't even realize we have, It like, Legit i'm
32:47
Speaker 2: just being, Smart i'm just being, Wise and SO i
32:51
Speaker 2: go through what anxiety, is what's happening in your, body
32:54
Speaker 2: the many different, modalities and how to. Heal there's there's
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Speaker 1: Awesome so that's Break free From. Anxiety, no just.
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Speaker 2: Go to elevate With elizabeth Dodo, oh Break free from.
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Speaker 2: Anxiety The return To self is WHAT i call that, program.
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Speaker 1: The return to. Self, okay, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Because that's what it's all, about instead of avoiding. Ourselves you.
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Speaker 1: Know we'll have a link up here at the show
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Speaker 1: notes page at The Trauma therapists podcast dot. Com, elizabeth
33:37
Speaker 1: awesome meeting, you AND i really appreciate you being.
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Speaker 2: Here, YEAH i appreciate you having. Me thank you so.
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Speaker 2: Much we'll be in, touch, okay