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242. Lindsay Arnold, 'Dancing With The Stars' Pro & Founder The Movement Club · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Live authentically and enjoy every single moment. Instead of striving
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  Speaker 2: What is Shagan emilya Bodi Here? You are listening to
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  Speaker 2: episode two hundred and forty two of Hurdle, a wellness
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  Speaker 2: you can stride towards your own big potential and of course,
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  Speaker 2: have some fun along the way. For today's episode, I
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  Speaker 2: am chatting with the ever lovely Lindsay Arnold. She is
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  Speaker 2: known by many for her time dancing on Dancing with
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  Speaker 2: the Stars. She is also the founder of a new
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  Speaker 2: workout program called the Movement Club. Thing of the Movement
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  Speaker 2: Club as your quick hit BFF, It's got one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and twenty five plus workouts that are all thirty minutes
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  Speaker 2: or less, ranging from dance, cardio, and pilates to hit
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  Speaker 2: yoga and stretching. In today's episode, Lindsay talks to me
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  Speaker 2: about her motivation for getting into the workout space at
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  Speaker 2: this point, getting her certification over the pandemic, currently also
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  Speaker 2: working on her pre and post natal studies, really hoping
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  Speaker 2: to help women everywhere prioritize movement and encourage them to
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  Speaker 2: make time for themselves.
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  Speaker 3: She also fills me.
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  Speaker 2: In on all of the backstory about what it was
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  Speaker 2: like for her coming up over the last ten years
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  Speaker 2: with Dancing with the Stars, as well as how it
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  Speaker 2: felt to go to work during the pandemic, what was
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  Speaker 2: different about that season versus the seasons that came before.
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  Speaker 2: She also gets brutally honest about how she feels about
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  Speaker 2: her past dance partners, as well as the toll that
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  Speaker 2: it has taken for her to open up about her
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  Speaker 2: life beyond dancing on social media. It's something that she
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  Speaker 2: is so grateful for the opportunity to share everything from
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  Speaker 2: her life as a mom to what she's eating, what
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  Speaker 2: she's doing, where she's going, how she's hanging.
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  Speaker 3: You get the drift.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a big pivot, and that pivot came
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  Speaker 2: with a fair amount of criticism. Which she speaks candidly,
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  Speaker 2: has been.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty tough to handle. To say that Lindsay is a
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  Speaker 3: bright light.
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  Speaker 2: For when we were talking, it was just truly felt
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  Speaker 2: like I was sitting down with a girlfriend. She is
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Lindsay Arnold. She is known
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  Speaker 2: for her fabulous dancing over on Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 3: She's also the creator of a new fitness platform called
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  Speaker 3: The Movement Club. How are you doing, Jay Lin's.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so good. I'm so excited to chat with you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, thank you for making the time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have nothing going on, running around after
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  Speaker 2: one child, another one coming in not all that long.
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling really good but also crazy at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: because yes, there's a lot going on, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's just life now. Like I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like there was a time perioder I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: things will slow down, but no, like that's just life
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  Speaker 1: and we're just keeping up and doing the best we
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  Speaker 1: can every day. But it's been good. I'm feeling good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited. This pregnancy has been pretty much identical
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  Speaker 1: to my first, so that's been nice because I just
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm like, I know what to expect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, knowing what to expect, I'm sure it can be
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  Speaker 2: really helpful. And that makes it sound like your first
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  Speaker 2: one went pretty easy, question mark.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really have anything to compare it to
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  Speaker 1: other than what people tell me I was I'm I
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  Speaker 1: won't say I'm lucky, because sometimes it's the most annoying thing. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe this is TMI, but I cannot throw up,
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  Speaker 1: Like body physically does not let that process happen. So
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  Speaker 1: I avoided that completely in both of my pregnancy so far,
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  Speaker 1: which I know can be miserable. But then there also
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  Speaker 1: were times where I'm like, I feel like I feel
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  Speaker 1: so much better if I could just do that. So
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  Speaker 1: that's something that I'm like, I'm really grateful for. I
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  Speaker 1: definitely have had moments where I just don't feel awesome,
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  Speaker 1: but for the most part, and from what I've heard,
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy can be, like I can say, like I am
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  Speaker 1: on the luckier end. For sure. Nothing's easy about pregnancy,
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  Speaker 1: but like, I think I have like a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: situation going well.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned the other endeavors that you are working on
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  Speaker 2: right now. If you were to label a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: buckets being a mom, doing career stuff, working on this
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  Speaker 2: fitness platform, et cetera, et cetera, do you feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's one bucket that you're pouring into the most at
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  Speaker 2: this point in time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I mean, here's the thing. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: any thing will ever top how much I pour into
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  Speaker 1: the bucket of motherhood, especially at this moment because it
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  Speaker 1: is a twenty four to seven job. It's the one
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  Speaker 1: thing that you can't really stop doing. I mean even
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  Speaker 1: when I'm working, I mean literally actively right now, I
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  Speaker 1: am just hoping that my daughter is actually napping in
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  Speaker 1: her crib because that's what she's supposed to be doing,
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  Speaker 1: but she's probably not. She could be just playing in there,
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  Speaker 1: reading her book. So it's like, even when I'm working
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  Speaker 1: and doing other things, like, motherhood is always kind of
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  Speaker 1: just my It's kind of my bucket now. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful for that and I love it. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: grateful that I can do other things because it keeps
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  Speaker 1: me sane. And then also growing a child really makes
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  Speaker 1: it hard to not have that be part of your book.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm actively making a baby inside me all day.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like that is my main bucket. But
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  Speaker 1: I truly believe that, like what makes that bucket so
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  Speaker 1: good and what makes it work is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I have other things that I can apply in my
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  Speaker 1: life and give myself to to help me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: stay sane, and to give myself like something that I
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  Speaker 1: can work on for me. And it's been very.
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  Speaker 2: Very beneficial, definitely, So in terms of being very beneficial.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about how, so, how
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  Speaker 2: has it been something that's just been so good for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if we talk about the Movement Club, my workout platform,
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  Speaker 1: it has been life changing. So this has been something
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  Speaker 1: that I've actually been doing. It's new in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that I feel like we're really like, I'm really sharing
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  Speaker 1: it in this platform and really trying to get it
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  Speaker 1: out there and help people understand like this is what
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  Speaker 1: I've created for you all, and I want you to join.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been in the works for almost two years now.
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  Speaker 1: It actually came about during my first pregnancy, which was
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  Speaker 1: crazy because the fact that I decided to start a
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  Speaker 1: fitness program while pregnant was just dumb, Like literally in
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  Speaker 1: my mind, I was sitting there going like, why am
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  Speaker 1: I doing this? Like, first of all, I'm actively gaining weight,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actively like losing my six pack that everybody thinks
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  Speaker 1: you have to have for a fitness platform. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what drove me even more was those doubts of why
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't do it were the reason that I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I have to do this, because it just
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  Speaker 1: gave me this sense of like this is how life is.
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  Speaker 1: This is probably how so many women feel like nervous
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  Speaker 1: about body changes that naturally happen, whether you're pregnant or not,
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  Speaker 1: and just maybe not feeling inadequate or feeling like there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a platform that helped them feel like there was
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  Speaker 1: something that was going to meet them where they were at.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what kind of inspired this. SO started creating
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  Speaker 1: the program, and I tell everybody that I credit so.
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  Speaker 1: I ended up. I had to have a C section
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  Speaker 1: with my first pregnancy, and my recovery was I can't
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  Speaker 1: compare it to anything because I've only had one, but
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  Speaker 1: it was fairly easy considering what everybody prepared me for
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  Speaker 1: and told me. And I credit all of that to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I moved my body throughout pregnancy. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't say it's because I stayed in shape and
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  Speaker 1: I was like this hardcore trained person my whole pregnancy,
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  Speaker 1: but it was simply just because I kept moving my body.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because I was actively creating this program as
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  Speaker 1: filming workouts. I was staying consistent. I had something that
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  Speaker 1: was holding me accountable and it was a game changer.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's why I feel like my body was
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  Speaker 1: able to recover a little bit quicker after pregnancy. My
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  Speaker 1: mental state stayed pretty strong throughout pregnancy, and I attribute
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  Speaker 1: all of that to moving my body. So this has
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  Speaker 1: been the biggest life changing thing for me, especially because,
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  Speaker 1: like you mentioned, my life. I mean a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people know me for being a dancer. That's what I've
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  Speaker 1: done my whole entire life. And then when I started
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  Speaker 1: having babies and things shifted, I found myself not dancing
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  Speaker 1: as much naturally, like that wasn't going to be as
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  Speaker 1: big of a part of my life as it could
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  Speaker 1: have been before. And so finding new ways to move
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  Speaker 1: my body and get that outlet has been so beneficial
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  Speaker 1: for me.
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  Speaker 3: Did you feel like you struggled during that transition or
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  Speaker 3: were you excited to step into and own different parts
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  Speaker 3: of your identity.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard, but at the same time, I was
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  Speaker 1: so ready. So I'm very grateful that my and I,
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  Speaker 1: like we really took our time. I mean, we were
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  Speaker 1: married for almost six years before we got pregnant, and
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  Speaker 1: I was really happy that we took that time because
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  Speaker 1: and I kind of like that was something I always
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do because I knew I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: ever want to feel like I cut my you know,
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  Speaker 1: career or my opportunities a little bit short just because
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to start a family. But I knew I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to have a family, so we really just like
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  Speaker 1: took our time and waited until it wasn't like I
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  Speaker 1: think I want to have kids. That was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: we are ready. So the transition was hard in the
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  Speaker 1: sense that like, yeah, like my identity was dance, was
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  Speaker 1: dancing with the stars, like that is my that was
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  Speaker 1: my whole life for a very very long time, so
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  Speaker 1: that change can be scary. But I was also extremely
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  Speaker 1: ready and super excited about the next chapter, so I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that kind of like softened the shift a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But then finding I think the biggest thing
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  Speaker 1: was then finding like my new identity and making sure
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  Speaker 1: that like I didn't just hold on to that and
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  Speaker 1: understood like change is good and find what's new. And
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  Speaker 1: I still, of course dance is always going to be
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  Speaker 1: a big and huge part of my life, but it's
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  Speaker 1: been cool to kind of see how different parts of
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  Speaker 1: me have come out since then.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you're leading me to ask whether or
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  Speaker 2: not you foresee picking up dance in the same way
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  Speaker 2: in the years to come.
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  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I didn't do this last season
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  Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars because it just didn't really
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  Speaker 1: work out with timing with our family. But I've never
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  Speaker 1: closed the door ever, and I don't think I ever will.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, like dance, I'm it's not my only identity,
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  Speaker 1: but it will always be like it's always going to
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  Speaker 1: be me. That's something that is my passion, my love.
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  Speaker 1: Like one of my first loves was dance. So I
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  Speaker 1: always see myself if I don't go back to that
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  Speaker 1: exact thing something else, Like, I just don't think there's
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  Speaker 1: any way that it will ever be out of my life.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I definitely have not closed the door on
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  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. I just think it's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to be the right time for me and my
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  Speaker 1: family for me to go back. So we'll see kind
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  Speaker 1: of what happens. And truly, I just kind of take
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  Speaker 1: it one season out of time and see where we're.
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  Speaker 2: At, one season at a time, one step at a time.
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  Speaker 2: You said a great word before in accountability for you,
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  Speaker 2: how did you stay accountable when working out started to
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  Speaker 2: feel more challenging for you during your pregnancy journey.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of things helped me. One was that
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  Speaker 1: I was literally like I kind of had to because
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  Speaker 1: I had committed to creating this program, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be consistent. I'm going to put new
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  Speaker 1: videos out every single week. So in the beginning, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it was that like necessity, But then it
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  Speaker 1: had to become a mental switch for me because, like
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned, it's like there was this weird kind of
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  Speaker 1: imposter syndrome of like, why am I filming videos when
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  Speaker 1: I'm gaining weight and I'm losing my abs as I
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  Speaker 1: should be with pregnancy, Like that is exactly what should
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  Speaker 1: be happening. But it was this imposter syndrome of like
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  Speaker 1: why am I doing Like like I should be in
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  Speaker 1: the best shape of my life if I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be teaching and instructing people how to work out. But
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  Speaker 1: that's where I learned the shift of movement is for
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  Speaker 1: me now so much less about how it's actually not
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  Speaker 1: at all about how my body looks because of the
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  Speaker 1: way I move. It's about how it makes me feel
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  Speaker 1: and how mentally it can take me through the challenges
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  Speaker 1: of motherhood, the stresses of work life. So it was
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  Speaker 1: a real kind of mentality switch that I feel like
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  Speaker 1: has been what has held me accountable. It's knowing that
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  Speaker 1: I am a better mother, a better wife, a better
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  Speaker 1: business woman, just an all around better human when I
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  Speaker 1: actively move my body and stay consistent with that. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's been really good to have that switch,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope that my program can do that for people,
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  Speaker 1: because unfortunately, I think a lot of the focus is
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  Speaker 1: just so much on what it's going to make us
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  Speaker 1: look like or how much weight we're going to lose,
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  Speaker 1: and that's just not what I'm about at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think something else really great for us
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  Speaker 2: to touch on here would be answering the question, well,
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  Speaker 2: how do I move when I feel like I just
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  Speaker 2: don't have it in the tank? What do you say
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  Speaker 2: to members of your community come to you feeling like
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  Speaker 2: they are just not in the place to move their body,
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  Speaker 2: not in the place to get after it.
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  Speaker 1: I relate to this so much, and only since I've
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  Speaker 1: had babies. Before babies, I would say like I was
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  Speaker 1: always in my kind of tip top athletic shape. I
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  Speaker 1: was dancing consistently, I didn't really have down seasons, and
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't until I became pregnant that I understood that
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  Speaker 1: feeling fully those weeks that go by where you're like
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  Speaker 1: I can't do anything, whether that's because you have no energy,
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  Speaker 1: you feel awful, or because you feel super defeated like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not good enough, I'm already too far into the hole.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way I'm going to get out. And something
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  Speaker 1: I've really tried to just like emphasize to my community
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  Speaker 1: and through this platform is to start and give yourself
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  Speaker 1: little goals to begin with. I think we can get
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  Speaker 1: so overwhelmed with if I'm not working out every single
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  Speaker 1: day for at least an hour, then I've failed and
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  Speaker 1: I might as well just not even do it. And
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  Speaker 1: I hate that because anything you can do in your day,
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  Speaker 1: literally if it's five minutes, I believe that is something
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  Speaker 1: to be a proud of and be is going to
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  Speaker 1: be beneficial for your health. So that's something that I
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  Speaker 1: really emphasize in this program and is why the structure
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  Speaker 1: of my program is the way that it is. I
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  Speaker 1: have workouts that range from as quick as five minutes,
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes, fifteen minutes, and actually my longest workout is
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  Speaker 1: thirty minutes long because in my life and in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes less can be a lot more. I
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  Speaker 1: think giving ourselves smaller goals and not overwhelming ourselves with
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  Speaker 1: these crazy things that we have to do every single day,
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  Speaker 1: it then in turn kind of helps you get it
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  Speaker 1: done even more. So, the biggest thing I can say
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  Speaker 1: to people is if they're scared about starting their fitnised journey,
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  Speaker 1: if they're feeling like they're not good enough, is to
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  Speaker 1: just give yourself very very small, realistic goals, even if
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  Speaker 1: that's moving your body five minutes for one day a week.
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  Speaker 1: Start small so that you can give yourself something to
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  Speaker 1: feel like you accomplished, and then move from there.
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  Speaker 2: And that isn't accomplished, right, that's something to be celebrated.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: This is a great place for me to plug.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holder recently came on the show and talked about
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  Speaker 2: what he loves to talk about, which are exercise snacks,
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  Speaker 2: and that there's so much benefit as you're saying here,
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  Speaker 2: lindsay too, the opportunity we have each and every day
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  Speaker 2: just to get up for ten minutes or five minutes,
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  Speaker 2: or do something at eleven, something at two. Over time,
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  Speaker 2: each of those little snacks, so to speak, really does
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  Speaker 2: add up to a lot. So give yourself that grease
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  Speaker 2: and move forward that way. I also really love what
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  Speaker 2: you were saying about knowing that you as you were
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  Speaker 2: at the time and as you are now in your body,
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  Speaker 2: you are fine as you are, you are great as
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you are, and that you understand that there is something
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: to be said for showing up as your authentic self,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: not needing to be what society has deemed to be
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: quote unquote perfect, for being someone that's leading fitness that
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: can be really inspiring for some Have you had individuals
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: that have been motivators in inspirations, role models for you
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: as you're stepping into this new chapter.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, yes, I mean there are so many
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: people who just kind of inspire me to keep moving.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I've loved watching One of my favorite favorite people in
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: the fitness space is Megan Rup and honestly, she gave
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: me so much inspiration when she got pregnant because I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just looked at her as before as like this perfect
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: fitness specimen, and she was, and then she gets pregnant
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and she goes through the same things that I had
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: gone through, and it was really cool to see her
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: still do her thing, and really, I feel like that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: really kind of helps me overcome some of my negative
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: self talk to myself of like, you're not in the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: best shape of your life, you should not be filming
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: workout videos, like just don't do it. So that was
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: really cool to see another person in that space kind
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: of doing something similar to me and just pushing through
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and rocking it and knowing that, like she was going
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: through the body changes, the sicknesses, the difficulty that comes
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: with pregnant. So that was really cool to see somebody
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: else who kind of went through that huge change and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: just continued pressing forward doing what she knew what she
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: needed to do.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, love Megan. She's been on the show before and
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: she's absolutely wonderful.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Now. You spoke about getting to a place where you
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: knew that you were ready to make this shift. You
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: also spoke about right before that time, feeling as though
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you were truly in some of the best shape in
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: your life, that a lot of the challenges that you
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: faced once you became pregnant were challenges that you had
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: never experienced growing up. Did you always have an inclination
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: toward activity.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean always. I started dance when I was
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: about three and a half years old, and I never
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: stopped so, and when I say never stopped, meaning like
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: by the time I was eight, I was at dance
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: for five six hours every single day after school, always
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: moving my body, always doing things, and dance was that
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: was my way of moving. I really didn't do anything else.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So that was an interesting shift because when I graduated
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: high school and I wasn't necessarily doing the competitive dance
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: world anymore going to dance with the stars, and the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: schedule kind of shifted. It wasn't until honestly that I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: was like twenty twenty one where I actually started incorporating
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like maybe going to the gym and doing workouts and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: activity outside of just dancing, because that was my whole life,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: My whole like movement regimen was dance. But yeah, that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: something that from a very young age I've always done
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and eventually it was like my passion was to move
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: my body, but then it became my profession. That's how
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I made money, that's how I provided for my family,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: was moving my body and dancing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And so when you started to add other aspects of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: fitness and strength work into your routine, did you see
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of challenges at first? Yes and no.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So one thing that was really interesting was I just
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: felt like, I think, up until that point, everything that
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I did surrounding moving my body, I was very knowledgeable
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: about it. I knew everything there was to know about
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: dance by the time I was when I was in
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: my like after high, like, I felt very knowledgeable. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: knew how to choreograph, teach dance. I knew all the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: different styles, all the different techniques. And then all of
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm like going to a gym and I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: sitting there looking at everybody do their thing, and I'm
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, I have no idea what
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I even do, where I even begin. So it was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: kind of a scary place for me to be in
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: because it was like the first time where I felt like, uh,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily know what I was supposed to be doing,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, I want to do something, but I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: don't really have the knowledge for it. So that's where
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: my desire for that knowledge began. So that was kind
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of scary. But then also what was helpful, and I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: think what has helped me a lot throughout this whole
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: this whole journey, is being very aware of my body,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: being very in tune as far as like the way
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: your muscles work through injuries and all of those things.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I think that knowledge from dance has been helpful, but
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: then also I have had to shift and learn a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: lot of new things as well.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Right because over the pandemic, when you were concepting all
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: of this, you also went and got your personal training certification.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did, and that has been so incredible. That
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: was so grateful, so great to do. And I'm actually
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: currently right now getting my pre and post natal certification,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: which has been even more beneficial because I think that's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: just something that can be very taboo, is movement while pregnant.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And I've been very grateful for the knowledge that I've
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: gained and like truly learning about what you can do,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: because I think the Internet and everybody can scary you
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: with information. But it's been really cool to dive into
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that knowledge.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So then to go back to your teenage years, you
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: actually started on so you think you can dance when
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you auditioned at eighteen, do you remember what was going
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: through your head when you stepped on the stage for
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: your first audition.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I didn't even want to go
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to the audition. My mom dragged me there like practically
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: forced me. I was so angry with her because I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was like, Mom, this is so embarrassing. I'm not going
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to make it, and then I'm gonna have to tell
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: all my friends I went to the audition and didn't
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: make it. But thank goodness that moms are just the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: way they are, because she was like, Nope, you're doing it,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and we're going right now. And I remember, I think
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I had very low expectations, but at the same time,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I was always a very very competitive person, so like
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I went into it going like I'm probably not gonna
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: make it, but like in the back of my mind,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm going to give this my all,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Like I'm going for it. So it's kind of this
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like fifty to fifty mentality, but very nerve wracking. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it was the first time I'd really done anything outside
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: of like my little dance competition world at my dance studio,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: so it was a definite like shift and it was scary,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: but gosh, I am very grateful that I went for
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it because that was the catalyst to my entire dancing
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: career for sure.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Which like goes on to be mega impressive. I mean
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: starting off right after so you think you can dance.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Going on the thirty City Tour, yes, So what was
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: that like at I mean, you were so young to
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: jump into something like.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: That, so that was crazy. I have done I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: five tours now since then, but that first one was
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: something else because first of all, I'm eighteen. I have
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: never lived not at my home with my parents, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: now I am on a bus with like thirteen other
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: teenagers mid twenties, like, and we're just traveling the country.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: We're dancing every single night, We're doing our laundry and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: different like theaters, were kind of fending for ourselves, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it was a very interesting time but also so fun.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Like I think back in some of those memories are
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: like the best ever, but when you're in it, you're like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: this is so hard, this is so rough. But I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, that was such a fun,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: pivotal time in my life and just a really cool
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: way to like interact. And I think the craziest thing
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: for me was being on the TV show was very cool.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But you're in a studio and I mean there's a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: couple of people in the audience, so you don't really
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: grasp like the magnitude of what you're doing, but then
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you go on tour and you fill theaters with thousands
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and thousands of people and their fans and they're excited
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to see you. And that's where I feel like I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: kind of was like whoa, Like, this is actually pretty
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: cool what I'm able to do, and I'm really grateful that,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like my talent has brought me to this platform that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I've only dreamed about doing for so long. So it
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: was a very cool experience.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: You grew up in Utah and you live in Utah now,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: So in that experience being able to literally travel all
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: over the country, what do you recall as something that
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: was perhaps the most overwhelming part of it all.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think, so I grew up in Utah and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: all of my family is here, like, and I'm a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: very family oriented, like huge homebody. I think the most
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: overwhelming part for me was being away from family for
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: so long. It was very tough for me. I think
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it was just like, I think it was a mixture
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: of things of like being with people that I liked,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but it's not like they were my family, and they
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: were also new friends. Like all of them were people
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that I had just recently met, and now I'm living
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: with them in close quarters. They were all so awesome,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but it's just I think there was a lot of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: like just new things going on, and it was something
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that I had to really learn because then from there
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't then home back in Utah
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: for almost five years after that. So I think it
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: was a good like tease to get me ready for Okay, hey,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like this is your moment. You got you gotta make
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that jump and you gotta put on your big girl
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: pants and do this thing.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ten years has passed since your first season of
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Where were you when you got that call?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I will never forget this because it was actually pretty insane.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: So I had just gotten back from this, so you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: think you can dance store? Maybe a month prior I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: was home and I had had maybe maybe like two
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: conversations with the producers from Dancing with the Stars. One
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: of them initially be and like, we're kind of interested
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in you for the season, Like is that something you'd
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: want to do, And it was like, yes, I am,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: but then not like a ton of follow up after that,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and then another call where they're like, hey, like we're
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: trying to We're just like checking availability, making sure you're
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: still interested. Yes, okay cool. Then I get a text.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: So all of this before was email, which email makes
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it feel very like, you know, disconnected. You're just kind
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, they're probably sending this like a mass
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: email to a bunch of people. But then I remember
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the day I get a text message from one of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the main producers and she was like, I need to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: know this answer quick. How tall are you? I was like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that's weird. Text back right away. Get a call two
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: minutes later. Hey, just wanted to let you know we
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: have a partner for you and we need you in
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: La tomorrow to start rehearsing with your partner. And I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like playing it so cool, Like, okay,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that's great, I'll be there, thank you. I hang up.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: My mom and dad are in the room. We're sitting
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in their kitchen and we're just like, what am I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: gonna freaking do. I'm in Utah, I don't have an
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: apartment and I have no like I didn't even like
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: have that on my radar. Thankfully, they followed up and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they're like, we know this is the last minute we're
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: going to get you an apartment, but we do need
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you down here? So I packed up my car that night.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I remember all of my boyfriend who is now my
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: husband at the time, and like a couple of our
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: friends came over to my house helped me pack up
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: literally basically my entire room because I'd be going down
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: there for about four months. Packed up my car, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the next morning I drove the ten hour drive to
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: LA by myself and started rehearsing with my partner. It
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: was absolutely insane but so fun.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Where what area did you first move to?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: So? I lived in West Hollywood pretty much the only time. Like,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that's the only place I lived in in California while
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: doing the show because they film in West Hollywood, so
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it just makes sense to be there. I will say
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that's probably not ever going to be my first choice
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of living, but it makes sense for what I had
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Why do you see that?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I think it goes back to I don't know. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: think I'm from Utah. I like open spaces, I like neighborhoods,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I like family vibe. None of that. In West Hollywood.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: You are very close together. There is no grass literally anywhere.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: So I think it was just the kind of a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: culture shock for me. And like this is completely different,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but it also has a lot of really fun perks,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Like the food is absolutely incredible. And then I mean
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that's where I do what I do, Like for what
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I can get done there, it is incredible. And I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: always say that I'm like, for what I was able
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to do in in that space, I'm so so grateful.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: But if I had my choice to live somewhere in California,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would be West Hollywood.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It would definitely be somewhere closer to the beach or
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: something sounds about right.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: So you had experience being on television with So You
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Think You Can Dance? When you start dancing on Dancing
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: with the Stars, is it very different for you?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So yes, very different, only because the workload was completely
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: different than what I was used to on Soay. You think,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for So You Think you Can Dance
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: because it kind of got my like my virgin dancing,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: like non professional dancing mode out, Like I no longer
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: was someone who had never danced on TV before or
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: who had been interviewed on television. I feel like So
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You Think You Can Dance was like my little mini
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: audition in preparation to do Dancing with the Stars because
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the time. By the time that came around, I felt
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: way more confident, like talking on camera, dancing in front
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of people watching on TV, like it was something that
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: didn't feel so foreign. But the workload was totally different.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: And so you think you can dance. I was just
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a dancer. I showed up, the choreographer told me what
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to do, and I just went out and danced. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I was also dancing with another dancer. So it was
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: very much similar to what I'd done growing up, Like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: somebody gives me a piece of choreography and I perform
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: it the best that I can. On Dancing with the Stars,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it's totally different. It's I'm the teacher and I'm also
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the dancer, and I'm also the choreographer. So I walk
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: into a room with someone who's never done this before.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I have to teach them how to do it after
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I choreographed what we're going to do, and then I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: also have to dance it with them, and then we
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: have to get judged on it, and people are going
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to tell me if they think my choreography sucked or
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: if I'm a bad teacher. So it was a lot.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I would say a lot more pressure on Dancing with
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the Stars because a lot of things fell on my shoulders,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and I mean, well pretty much everything fell on my shoulders.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: So I would say it was very different in that way.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Very different in that way.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And then with this platform where you are on television
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: every week, you are also now at a point where
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you're starting to open yourself up to criticism, something that
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you know, you are very familiar with these days. What
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: have you learned over the years in handling unsolicited feedback, criticism,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: so on and so forth.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I will say that I'm grateful to
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: have had the practice I had back in the day,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: because I mean, I feel like, back in twenty thirteen,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like social media was there, but it wasn't what it
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is now. And I feel like the practice I got
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in all of those years leading up to what we're
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: currently in now, social media is just this entirely new thing,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and the amount of criticism I receive on a daily
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: basis now is absolutely insane. And I think because of
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: those years prior, where I kind of got used to it,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it's been easier to handle it. I've always tried to
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: attack criticism with a bit of humor, and I think
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that's something that's just kind of my personality. I know
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that that's not always the way that people can take it,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: but I always try to just kind of, you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: see maybe a funny side to it, look at kind
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of like the humor in it, like oh wow, like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they took that much time to think
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: about that, or I can't believe they came up with that,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and try to kind of play it in that way.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that I think has helped me
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: is just understanding and focusing more on the fact that
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: these people don't even know me at all, and the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: only opinions that matter are the people who genuinely know
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: me and that are in my life because they love
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: me and they know who I am as a person
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and they care about my well being, and so relying
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: on that and like putting my actual energy into those
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: opinions is what has saved me. And just understanding that
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: no matter what I do, people are going to have
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: an opinion. That's what I've learned. The crazy Like I
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: used to think that criticism came because if I was
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: doing something different then I wouldn't be getting that criticism.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But I've learned that no matter what I do, people
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: will find a way to criticize you if they want.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: If that's what they are, energy is going towards, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: if that's the kind of person that they are, they
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: will find something. So don't worry myself over trying to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: change things to avoid criticism or to avoid somebody commenting something.
• 32:32
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  Speaker 2: so firm in knowing the best way for you to navigate.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll use air quotes here like the haters. But
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  Speaker 2: was there an instance for you where you didn't feel
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  Speaker 2: so shiny and strong that really made you change the
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so, actually this happened in my early years of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, so it was a mixture of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: criticism from online and also from people in the industry.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But I so on Dancing with the Stars, there are
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: two different kind of jobs roles that you can have
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: as a dancer. So you can go on and be
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a professional dancer that gets paired with a celebrity partner,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: or you can be a dancer that is kind of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: like a backup so you don't get a partner, but
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you're dancing in the episodes and you're kind of like
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: maybe in some of the group numbers or maybe in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the background of some of the people's dances. It's basically
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like you're a background dancer. So my very first season
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of the show, I got paired with a celebrity partner,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: which is like the top, like, that's what you want,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that's the job you want. And then for the next like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: oh what was it? Four seasons after that, I got demoted,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: as one would say, to the true position, which is
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the background dancer. And that was a really really tough
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: time for me. Tough because a lot of people would
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: comment on it and be like, Oh, it's because she
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't good enough, she didn't do a good enough job
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: at the being a pro, or if she would have
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: done this, then she probably wouldn't have done that, or
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: messaging me telling me what I should be doing so
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that I could be a pro again, like lindsay do
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: this this season so that you could do that. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the feedback I got from the industry and from the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: people kind of around me was that I didn't really
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: have like enough. I wasn't showing enough of my personality.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And that was really weird for me because I'm like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: what do you mean, Like, I'm just being myself? Like
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: how does one sh their personality if they're just being themselves?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Like it kind of put me in this weird headspace
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and made me feel like I needed to maybe be
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: more of something. And I feel like for a while
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: there I kind of chase this like personality that I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: thought everybody wanted me to be, and finally I was like, well,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: screw it, because it's not working and I'm not happy
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: at all, So I'm just going to be myself and
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: just be confident in that, be happy in that. And
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that's when I realized that it wasn't a lack of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: like me not having enough personality. It was just me
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: genuinely going, you know what, like be yourself and don't
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: worry or care about what other people think. Have confidence
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: in yourself. No, you're enough and crazy enough that next
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: season I got brought back up to being a pro. Now,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that like that was a result of that,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and I don't and I'm also not saying that, like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: if you do everything right, you're going to get exactly
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: what you want out of your career. But for me,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it was such a good realization of understanding at that moment, like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: no matter what happens, I want to be happy. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: want to be content in who I am, and if
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I if being me isn't enough, then this isn't the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: right job for me. And that mentality I think changed
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the game for me with my career, knowing that whatever
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I step into, if I can be genuine to myself,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: if it works out for me, then awesome. But if
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it doesn't, then that means that this wasn't the right
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: job for me.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: We all at times struggle with being like, let's call
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: it truly happy, right with avoiding negative self talk and
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: trying not to beat down that inner critic.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: For you, what helped you.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Get more comfortable in your own skin and be your
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: authentic self?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was a mixture of sort of being
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: fed up of trying so hard to be something I'm not.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I think I got to the like a breaking point
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of just being like I am miserable, like I am
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: chasing something that isn't me, and then realizing like if
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I change who I am to get something that I want,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: am I even going to be happy once I get there?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Or am I just going to continue living inauthentically to
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: have this thing that I really want? And that was
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a huge realization for me. Is just like understanding that
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: like feeling content and feeling authentic in your life is
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: more important than anything else. And yes, it might feel
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: good for a while for short term to get this
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: thing that you want and kind of maybe play a
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: role that you think is what you should be doing,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it's not long
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: term happiness and that's what we all need and what
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: we kind of strive for. So I think that was
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a big I don't know, I feel like that was
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a turning point. It's just kind of possibly just being
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: fed up with not being authentic. And also a huge
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: actor was my family, my then boyfriend but now husband
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: saying to me, like lindsay like, this is not you, like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: this is not you. Like even if this works out
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: for you the way that you want it to, like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you're not happy. And I think that was something that
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: was really big. Is leaning on the people around you
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: who know you and listening to their advice and you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: helping them keep you in check is something that's been
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: really beneficial for me in my life.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: How did that stress manifest for you? How did it
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: play out or impact you.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing was just my like literal
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: general overall well being and happiness, Like every day waking
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: up felt like kind of had like a cloud over me,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like I just was like a little like muted version
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: of who I truly was. And I also think it
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: affected my work, like I know it did. I know
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it affected the way I was as a performer as
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: a dancer, because that confidence level wasn't necessarily there anymore.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I think it was like very shaded and just kind
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of like trying to grasp whatever it could find, but
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't there. And I think that it really affected
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the way that I approached my job every single day.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And a huge thing for me was just getting stuck
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: in negativity. I one of the biggest factors was knowing,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: like and recognizing like how negative I was about everything.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: And what's crazy I think was at the time I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was doing still what is considered one of the most
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: incredible jobs to do as a dancer, and I was not.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I was taking it for granted in a way in
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the sense that I don't think I was being grateful
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: for where I was because I was reaching so hard
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to get to something else. And I hate that I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: took any time being ungrateful for the position that I
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: was in.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I recently had a woman on the show.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Her name's Mina b and she talked a lot about
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the concept that if you're not honest with yourself, then
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: you are bound for self sabotage. Right, So, even if
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you can articulate whatever it is that you think that
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you want, that you think that your goals are, if
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: you're not honest with yourself about where you're at or
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: maybe the means that going after that goal will require,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: then your only destiny is to not get exactly what
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It's so true, It's so true.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: This is all ten years ago.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: So ce the music over a montage of your outstanding
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: at long, lengthy career on Dancing with the Stars. What
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: would you say has been one of the biggest lessons
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: that you take with you from that time on the show.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so many things. I feel like I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: learned so much. It's like so many good life lessons
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars. This is going to sound silly,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: but like, I am a firm believer that the patients
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and kind of like the endurance that I had to
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: learn on Dancing with the Stars has helped me beyond
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in motherhood. I know that's kind of a weird connection,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: but the patience you have to learn on Dancing with
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the Stars is huge. And I'm not even saying this
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in a way of like because it's just awful. I'm
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: saying it because it requires so much patience to teach
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: somebody a new skill that they've never done before. It
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: requires a lot of guidance and reassurance and some empathy
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to really take somebody through that process like that is tough.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I think over the years on Dancing with the Stars
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: really becoming very empathetic and like sympathizing for my partners,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: not because they were doing something they didn't want to do,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: but because it's very tough to put yourself out there
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to try something new, to do it on national television,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to get judged for it, and it's a very strenuous process. So,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: like the empathy and kind of the like the sensitivity
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that I learned and gained and the patients was has
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: just been so beneficial because going into motherhood, I mean,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: that's every single day is patience and being sensitive and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: being understanding, and so that was really cool for me.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: But then also I think like it's one of those
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: shows where it's live, so that show is coming around
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter if you're ready no matter
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: if you finish your dance, no matter if like everything
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: works out whether or not, like everything's fine, You're still
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: going to perform every Monday night. There's no redos, there's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: no like, oh I'm not ready. It's like you've got
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to make it happen. And I'm really grateful for that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: because it gave me this sense of like, you can
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: do anything, Like I truly am very and I always
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: tell my partners that, or I would tell them that, like
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week, like I know that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: this seems impossible, but I promise you that we're going
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to do this rough week and it will happen, Like
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it is going to happen, and you will get through this.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: And it's been it's been a really good like mentality
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: through all the other stressful things in my life of like,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: it's going to happen, so we're going to do it,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and you can make it happen. So I think it
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: gave me a lot of confidence in knowing that, like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: even when things feel like they're absolutely not going to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: work out, it's going to happen either way, and you're
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: going to make it happen. And that confidence has been
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: very beneficial for me.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it sounds like perseverance, persistence, and really a
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: huge lesson and accepting the things that you can't change, right, Like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to step out and perform this
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: dance live on national television, so you might as well
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: make the best you can of the situation.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: That is such a good way of putting it, because
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that's the truth. It's like, I can't change it no
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: matter what. And there was a lot of things I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: couldn't change. I couldn't change if I got a partner
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: that season that had a little dance experience, I couldn't
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: or maybe they had nothing at all. I couldn't change
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: if they were really good at dancing or really bad
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: at dancing. All all I could do was just do
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: what needed to be done and swerve and make adjustments
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and change things as we go to make it work.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: And I think that has been really helpful for me,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: because life is never going to go the way you
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: want it to, So being able to like adjust instead
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of shut down is a really good thing that I
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: feel like I've been able to do from that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to make sure that we clarify this,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: you have no insight as to who your partner is
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: going to be until very shortly before meeting them, right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Literally no insight. The earliest I've ever been told who
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: my partner was was like the night before a morning
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: rehearsal where I met them. But typically you show up
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to the meeting and they tell you like ten minutes
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: before your partner walks in the door, like, Okay, this
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: is your partner. You have no insight, you have no
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: like I want this person. It's just that out of
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: your hands. And I'm very grateful. Though I always say this,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and I feel like people don't believe me to think
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying this because I have to, but I'm like,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I really don't have to say this. I have been
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: blessed with some of the most awesome partners, not because
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: they were all good dancers, because in fact, a lot
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of them were terrible dancers, and I'd say that to
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: their face, so I'm not even being rude here. A
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: lot of them were not good dancers, but the most genuine, kind,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: good people, and that has been a lifesaver because to me,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that matters more than anything. I'm like, I can teach
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: you how to dance, but I can't teach you how
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to be a nice person. So if you have that,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: then we are going to have a great season.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: How would you say that the lessons of perseverance and
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: persistence and persistence showed up for you during the pandemic.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I think the persistence was just the biggest thing because
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: understanding that we've got to press forward and finding ways
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: getting creative, keeping myself busy, and that was a huge
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: part of what pushed me into creating my program, the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Movement Club. Was being in my home, pregnant for the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: first time, not able to go to a gym, not
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: having any dance opportunities at the time, and really just
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: feeling like, well, what am I going to do. I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: need to make sure I move in my body. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: need to stay sane, I need to find things for
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: myself that I can do. And I would say that
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: was one of the most pivotal years for me in
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: my career. It's where I started my workout program. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: completely evolved and kind of changed and shift my mentality
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: around fitness. I really dove into a lot of different
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: aspects of my career on social media and sharing on
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: different platforms because I understood like, hey, we've got to
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we can't shut down. We've got to adapt, we've got
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to change, and we've got to find what we can
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: do to make this work and to push through this time.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm really grateful for that, because I think a
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people did that, and I think it was
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a really pivotal time for a lot of people, as
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: well as being the most difficult time for a lot
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of people. But for me, I'm grateful for the changes
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I made during that time.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: What was it like for you to film Dancing with
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: the Stars during the pandemic?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: So that was very interesting, very very different. That was
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: so I missed the first season that they filmed during
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the pandemic because I was pregnant, But then the next
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: season was still during the pandemic. Things had definitely slowed
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: down a bit, so I know that the protocols were
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: even a little bit less intense as they were that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: time where I missed while I was pregnant. But it
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: completely changed. It was a very different show, different experience,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: mostly in the sense that we couldn't interact with any
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: of the other dancers or celebrities, which is so weird
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: because that is something about the show that is like
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: so much what the show is about is everybody just
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: being together, being a family, hanging out, like doing rehearsals together,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: sitting on the couch, eating snacks after rehearsal together. So
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: that was definitely a different thing. But then it was
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: also very interesting because I feel like then me and
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: my partner relied on each other even more because it
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: was just us and I had the best partner that season,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Matt James. He's actually him and Rachel are actually staying
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: at our house right now visiting. So it's like really
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: cool because he became a lifelong friend and it's cool.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: So it shifted in some ways, but it was also
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: really special in other ways.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt and I are friendly, so tell him. Emily
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: from Hurdle says, what's up. Well, for sure, we heard
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: so much about your time during the pandemic and what
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: it was like to be doing the same thing. I'll
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: bite quite differently. You also mentioned pivoting and getting more
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: into different types of content creation. Can you talk to
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: us a little bit about what that's been like for
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: you and maybe some of the challenges that have come
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: hand in hand with that shift.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think the biggest shift was before the pandemic,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: which was Cohen's Literally I found out I was pregnant
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: two days before the world shut down, Like I was
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars tour. I remember taking the test.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: The next day, we got our tour manager kind of
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: gathered us and was like, just say, you know, this
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: is happening, and we were probably gonna have to pause
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the tour for two weeks, because remember it was just
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: going to be two weeks. But he's like, we're gonna
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: probably have to send you guys home for two weeks
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and then we'll get you back out. And we were
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: like okay. Then the next day completely evolved, You're going
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: home tomorrow, We're done with the tour, go home, then
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: we go home. We kind of were waiting and like
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: waiting to hear if we were going back out. Eventually
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: obviously got completely canceled. But it's crazy how my pregnancy
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: and the pandemic were like completely in sync at the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: same time. Before the pandemic, it's like anything I'd share
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: on social media was I would say ninety percent about dance.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: It was about Dancing with the Stars. It was just
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: about that, because I figured that's the only reason people
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: followed me was to hear about that. Kind of stuff.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Then going home getting pregnant, knowing I'm like, well, I'm
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: not going to be doing Dancing with the Stars next season,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: so are people even going to care to like see
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: what I have to say? But then I'm like, yeah,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: like we're going to go for this. And it was
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: a complete shift of like opening up a whole new
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: world to my followers into on all my platforms. Around
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the same time, my sisters and I started a YouTube channel,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: which was really special because I feel like that started
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: to bring a new element of who I was into
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: kind of the space. But then during the pandemic, it
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: was huge. It shifted from talking about Dance with the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Stars and dance dance and sants to guys, I'm pregnant,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Like this is my pregnance, my pregnant self that I'm
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: going to share my journey. And that's kind of where
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: it all started was I just decided, I'm like, maybe
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: people won't care, but I'm going to really just like
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: go for it. I'm going to share my whole pregnancy journey.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I want to let people in on my life and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: start to help them get to know me a little
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: bit more on a personal level, which was scary because
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: that definitely opened up a lot more can of worms
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: than I was ready for the amount of hate I've
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: gotten since sharing about pregnancy is way more than anything
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: else I ever dealt with in my life. Like pregnancy
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: shamers is a thing, mom shaming is a thing. Kid
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: shaming is a thing, which I'm like, no, it should
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: not be a thing. But I think the biggest, like
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the hurdle for me was just going, Okay, do people
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: even care about other parts of my life or do
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: they only follow me because I am this dancer from
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. And I'm really grateful that I
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: went for it because I have come to discover that
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: it's actually been even better since I've started to open
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: up and share my life and go into new channels
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and kind of expand the way that I share my life.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: That was a huge shift for me. I would say
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: it mostly started on Instagram because that was just the thing,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: but then really work to grow a YouTube channel. My
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: sister and I did a podcast for a little bit
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: starting on TikTok. Even though I tried so hard to
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: fight it, I really did. I was like, I hate
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: this app. I can't And then finally I'm like I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: like this app, We're totally going for it. But I
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: think just understanding and recognizing like people want to see authentic, genuine,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: real people. They don't want to see perfectly curated things.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: And it was comforting for me because I think for
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a while there it was like, do people care about
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: anything about me other than dancing? And also do I
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: have to make everything look perfect in order for it
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: to be like instagram worthy? And I'm really grateful that
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't, because my life is not perfect. It's messy,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: And I think that's been the biggest that's been the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: biggest positive in my social media career is just understanding
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that I can be fully authentic with my followers, and
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: it's pushed me to levels that I think I didn't
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: know I could even get to, So that's been great.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: It's really interesting to hear you share your hesitation in
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: that because at the top of this we are talking
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: about you owning all of these pivots and really stepping
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: into with excitement this chapter of motherhood and content and
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: like all of the different business ventures and the movement club,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: like there was so much excitement there, But then to
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: hear you express this hesitancy about sharing all of that
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: with people online. It's refreshing and it's beautiful, and I
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: would be curious to know what advice you would offer
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: to others who are trying to embrace being their fully
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: authentic self.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: It is so true. I'm glad you brought that up
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: because I think, like, right now, I'm just so grateful
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: for all the things that have going on. I love
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: them all. But it's kind of interesting to go back
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: to those times of like, I almost didn't do this,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I almost just let my doubts kind of take over.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the advice that I would give
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: is if there is something that you think you might
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: want to try, you cannot not try it, Like what
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: is the worst thing that could happen? See, I am
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the kind of person that I would rather try something
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and understand it's not for me than never try it
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: and always wonder if it would have worked out. And
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: so that I think is like something that I really
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: harp on people is just try, like, just give it
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a shot. You never know where it's going to take you.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: And when I started this and when I said, oh
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try, it's not like I foresaw exactly
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: the way that this went. I never would have guessed it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I never would have said this is where I'm going
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: to really like succeed, this is where I'm going to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: start diving into. This is going to be the shifts
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I make. But all I did was attacked it genuinely
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: and gave it my best shot, and it kind of
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: naturally will fall into place for you. So I think
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: advice is to go for it, but then also understand
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: that things might shift in ways you didn't understand, and
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: to just ride the wave and to see where it
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: takes you and not get so set or specific on
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: like it has to be like this, because it might
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: not be, but it might be even better than you imagined.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: What is the most surprising thing that's come with this
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: shift for you?
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is that I am able
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: to create a career for myself, provide for myself and
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: my family while living in my home, living in Utah,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: finding things that allow me to still be a full
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: time mom and still work and get all the things
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and all my passions in. I think there's this There
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: used to be this huge mentality and kind of like
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: scary factor of me of like, once I'm a mom,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I can't do anything like I'm done and I've done more.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I would say my career is busier since becoming a
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: mom than it ever was before. And I'm talking with
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Dancing the Stars too, Like my days are filled. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: have things going on all the time, and yeah, a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: lot of that is being a mom. But it's like,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you can do it all. And I think that's been
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: really good for me to understand, because I think it
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: can be scary and you can think like, oh, well,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: once you have a mom, once you're a mom, you're
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: either done or there's that if you're a working mom,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: then you're a terrible mom. And I hate that because
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you can do both. You can absolutely be killing in
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: your career and attack it and go after your dreams
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and pursue your passions and be a great mother at
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: the same time. And it's really cool that I've been
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: able to do it. But I think it is shocking
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: because I kind of always thought, like, well, crap, if
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I want to provide, if I want to work, I've
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: got to be doing Dancing with the Stars for the
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: rest of my life, moving out to LA four months
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: out of the year and leaving my family. But I'm
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: really grateful that my career has been able to shift
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and I can still do that, but I can also
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: do other things for the times where it doesn't work
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: for me to be doing that.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we've talked a lot about identity in
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: our conversation today. If someone goes to your social media page,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: they see dancing with the Stars, pro you're a mom.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: You also now have this workout program with the Movement Club.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: When you look in the.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Mirror, though, what is it that you see looking back
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: at you?
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. That is a very good question and
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: something I don't really think about very often, but I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: would say right now, I am very proud of myself
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: as a mother who is pursuing her passions, who was
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: finding ways to do what she loves, because that, I
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: think is just the scariest thing about motherhood and something
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I was very scared of. Is just worrying like, am
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I going to lose who I am through all of this?
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Am I going to then just become somebody's caretaker and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: forget to take care of myself and forget to do
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: things for myself? And that has not happened at all.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I am very grateful that I've found ways to stay
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: true to who I am, to give back to me
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: while also giving to the little creature that I created
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that I love more than anything in this whole entire world.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And so I think that's what I see is someone
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: who is just like striving every day. I'm not trying
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: to say in any way that I am mailing it
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: all the time, because I am definitely not. But I
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: think I just see someone who literally wakes up every
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: day and just strives to do her best, strives to
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: get it all done and show up where she can
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: and be the best version of herself and what it
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: is that's coming for that day.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: When you think about a year from now, what does
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: happiness look like for you?
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I just hope that I can continue
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: because thinking about a year from now, I'm not gonna lie.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Like the big shift of knowing that we're going to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: two kids very soon is is a bit daunting, and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I know it's going to completely shake up everything I've
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: got going right now, Like what I have figured out
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: for my life right now is about to get a
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: huge shift. And I just hope that in a year
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: I still have this mentality of just like taking everything
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: a day at a time and showing up where I can.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I kind of went through this a little bit about
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: six months ago, just this constant feeling of like feeling
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: like I wasn't enough and I wasn't getting enough done
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: and always thinking about what I wasn't doing instead of
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: just doing what I could and being proud of that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: And since shifting that mindset, I've found that I've been
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: able to show up in ways that I didn't think
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I could ever do. And so I hope I can
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: keep that mentality. I'm sure it's gonna wait, and I'm
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: sure there's gonna be a lot of shifts and resets,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: gonna have to check myself every once in a while,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: but I hope that I can just be very proud
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of wherever I'm at in a year from now and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: know that I've definitely done the best that I could.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: How do you squash that I'm not doing enough? I'm
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: not good enough? Gremlin?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Truthfully, I feel like I have to attack it in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: different ways depending on the day, And like I said,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: like I'm not for your data. It's like some weeks
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I go through the whole week and I'm like I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: am a rock star and I can do everything, and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: then the next week, I'm like, I can't get anything done.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I failed. This whole week was a bust. I think
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: it really goes back to, like for me at least,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: is taking it day by day, not looking at the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: week as a whole, not looking at what I didn't
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: finish that like comparing it to what I've done in
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: the past, is really just taking it by that day,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: wake up, look in the mirror, say let's do this.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Let's crush it. Whatever comes our way. Let's just try
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: to make it and get through and show up the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: best that we can. And that's been a huge help
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: for me. Some people are really good at maybe planning
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: out the whole weeks, but for me that's something that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: kind of overwhelms me and makes me feel like I've
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: failed before I've even had the chance to do it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: So taking things a day at a time and really
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: just showing up where I can has been very good
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Being able to articulate that though right like knowing that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the ladder the I'm going to plan a week in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: advance gives you anxiety, is what we were talking about before.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: It's being honest with yourself so that you can make
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: the progress that you desire.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, it's setting like realistic expectations. And I think
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: like social media can be so tough because truthfully, like
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: there are so many times where being on social media
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: seeing other people is what triggers my insecurity. Seeing these
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: people post tiktoks about how they plan out and map
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: out their whole week and then they absolutely nail their
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: whole week, it makes me feel inadequate. But then that's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: what works for them, and that's okay, and that's great.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: But don't give myself expectations that I know I'm not
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: going to meet because then why why why would I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: do set myself up to be discouraged instead of just saying, okay,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: what will inspire me and encourage me today rather than
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: make me feel stressed out or anxious. So I think
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: it's that fine balance of understanding that just because someone's
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: doing it some way doesn't mean it's the only way,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and it also doesn't mean that they're doing it wrong.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: It's just that's what works for them. Find what works
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: Find what works for you.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're winding down here, lindsay, right now, you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Looking back at, let's call it those first couple years
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: on Dancing with the Stars, navigating a lot of feedback
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: and stepping in to your authentic self, you have an
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: opportunity to offer that, Lindsay, a piece of advice.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: In that hurle moment. Knowing what you know, now, what
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: do you tell her?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, I think I think I would tell
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: her to understand that there is so much coming for you,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and a lot of it is going to be stuff
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: that you don't have on your wish list, and that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: is perfectly okay. And I think just telling her to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: ride each wave as it comes, see where it takes you,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: live authentically and enjoy every single moment instead of striving
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to get somewhere that you're not live in the moment,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: be present and understand that where you are is exactly
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: where you need to be. I think that would have
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: been really helpful and would have helped me enjoy a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: lot of maybe tough moments of my life instead of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: looking at them like they were just miserable trials that
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I would never get out of.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every hurdle happens to teach us something, Lindsay, I'm
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: so happy that we were able.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: To connect today. How did the hurdlers keep up with you?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: How do they follow along with you? Give us all
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: of your details?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So you can follow me on Instagram and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: TikTok at at Linz Arnold. You can follow my workout
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: program on Instagram and on TikTok. I share a bunch
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: of like daily workout tips, some quick workouts that you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: can do from home at the movement Club and then
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you can sign up for my program at movementclub dot com.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Very excited hopefully you guys will come join the program.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: You can do a seven day free trial so you
• 1:04:04
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.