Latest / Financial Survival Network / From Living in Section 8 Housing to Building a Billion Dollar Company - Scott Jarred #6128
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- 0:01Speaker 1: All right, welcome. This is Financial Survival Network and I'm
- 0:05Speaker 1: your host Carrie Lutz. Hey got interesting guests, Hunt, Scott Jared,
- 0:10Speaker 1: wealth management expert, real estate expert and heads up a
- 0:16Speaker 1: billion dollar company. And Scott, it's great to have you
- 0:19Speaker 1: on the show. So how'd you wind up getting into
- 0:21Speaker 1: real estate?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Oh? Real estate was funny when I went to when
- 0:27Speaker 2: I was a kid, I like, never had really had
- 0:29Speaker 2: any money. And one day we were looking out in
- 0:32Speaker 2: our Section eight housing apartment projects and a guy's helicopter
- 0:36Speaker 2: laying in the backyard, and I'm like, what is the
- 0:38Speaker 2: what are the rules that he's playing that we're not playing,
- 0:41Speaker 2: And so from that moment on, I was like, man,
- 0:43Speaker 2: it'd be really cool to be able to be in
- 0:45Speaker 2: real estate. And I end up going to school for
- 0:48Speaker 2: urban planning in real estate finance, end up getting a
- 0:52Speaker 2: masters in technology and never really had any money to
- 0:55Speaker 2: do real estate early on. So we started a company,
- 0:57Speaker 2: a wealth management company called invest and was helping people
- 1:01Speaker 2: with their money. And not too long ago we work
- 1:04Speaker 2: with a lot of real estate investors, like as they're
- 1:09Speaker 2: helping them with their money and all that, and then
- 1:11Speaker 2: it wasn't we would used to co invest with them
- 1:14Speaker 2: and now we actually do a lot of that, a
- 1:16Speaker 2: lot of that in the house now, So it's really
- 1:18Speaker 2: expanded our reach into the real estate market so that
- 1:23Speaker 2: it became a byproduct of what we're doing. Even though
- 1:25Speaker 2: it's what I wanted to do, it wasn't really what
- 1:27Speaker 2: the company was founded to do.
- 1:29Speaker 1: So from from section eight to to this amazing business,
- 1:37Speaker 1: What do you think the secret was of your success?
- 1:40Speaker 2: Yeah? I think a lot of it is just like
- 1:44Speaker 2: when you're in a when you're in a scarcity minded
- 1:46Speaker 2: world where your life is just miserable, like meaning like
- 1:49Speaker 2: you just can't do stuff, like you have no freedom,
- 1:52Speaker 2: you can't you're not free to go do what you
- 1:54Speaker 2: want to do, when you want, with who you want.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And I think there's a point in your life where
- 1:58Speaker 2: you just have a mind shift that says, you know,
- 2:00Speaker 2: this is what I want, Like I want this for myself.
- 2:02Speaker 2: So that happened for me where I was just like,
- 2:05Speaker 2: that doesn't matter what it takes, and when it works
- 2:06Speaker 2: really hard to not have to to be able to
- 2:09Speaker 2: live the life that I want to be able to
- 2:10Speaker 2: live it under my own terms, and so just started
- 2:14Speaker 2: grinding it out, worked really hard, and and got there.
- 2:17Speaker 2: So hard work works if you will.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know. Edison said what some people see
- 2:27Speaker 1: as luck, I see as overalls, you know exactly.
- 2:32Speaker 2: We have a shirt like luck means when preparation meets opportunity,
- 2:36Speaker 2: and we say like when preparation when when you meet
- 2:38Speaker 2: invest and then invests the opportunity. So our companies invest,
- 2:42Speaker 2: so like you're prepared, you're ready, and then when the
- 2:44Speaker 2: when the opportunity presents itself, you can take advantage of
- 2:46Speaker 2: that opportunity, whether it's real estate or or in your
- 2:49Speaker 2: business or whatever you're trying to do. Recovering attorney as
- 2:53Speaker 2: as you will.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know so, but hard work alone isn't enough.
- 2:59Speaker 1: There's millionions of people out there working their hells off. Yeah,
- 3:04Speaker 1: you really meet with limited success, so there's got to
- 3:08Speaker 1: be something more to with than that.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think hard work is you can work really
- 3:13Speaker 2: hard and get no results. And so for me, the
- 3:17Speaker 2: hard work when I started was like how do I
- 3:19Speaker 2: do a paper out? So now, like to get money,
- 3:22Speaker 2: you had to go run papers. So to be able
- 3:25Speaker 2: to build scale, then you have to hire employees to
- 3:27Speaker 2: run the papers for you. So by twelve I started realizing,
- 3:30Speaker 2: well I could go do all the manual physical work,
- 3:33Speaker 2: or I could start to use my brain and start
- 3:35Speaker 2: to think about how do I manage others to be
- 3:36Speaker 2: able to give them opportunity. So when I started to
- 3:39Speaker 2: learn that I could be an opportunity creator for other people,
- 3:42Speaker 2: then the opportunities came back to me tenfold. So then
- 3:46Speaker 2: my whole framework of mindset was like, what if I
- 3:49Speaker 2: could create a world where I could just create more
- 3:52Speaker 2: opportunity and that was my unique ability for other people
- 3:55Speaker 2: and to solve their problems and what they want. And
- 3:57Speaker 2: so then the point you're making is like that hard
- 4:00Speaker 2: work is is a part of it, but now you
- 4:02Speaker 2: got to start thinking smart and how to use your
- 4:04Speaker 2: capability things that you're uniquely gifted that other people aren't
- 4:07Speaker 2: that will help you become more successful. And that was
- 4:10Speaker 2: one of the biggest things that I discovered early in
- 4:13Speaker 2: my life. And I've just been you know that I'm
- 4:15Speaker 2: forty eight years old, just been really honing that skill.
- 4:20Speaker 2: And now you know, we have eighty three employees versus
- 4:22Speaker 2: just a few, and and we're helping entrepreneurs every day
- 4:25Speaker 2: scale grow, make their money work for them so they
- 4:28Speaker 2: don't have to work for it.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Yeah, so, so hey, on your road, your path to success,
- 4:38Speaker 1: there's always a seminal event for you. It was the
- 4:41Speaker 1: helicopter landing there, right, And but you know, not everybody
- 4:46Speaker 1: sees it that way. If you were if you got
- 4:50Speaker 1: one piece of advice to an aspiring entrepreneur whatever they
- 4:55Speaker 1: want to do to succeed, what would it be?
- 5:00Speaker 2: Oh? Okay. So, no matter where you are in the
- 5:04Speaker 2: entrepreneurial journey, you're always in an inflection point. It doesn't
- 5:09Speaker 2: matter where you're at, Like for us, from the very
- 5:12Speaker 2: beginning as an entrepreneur to now managing billions of dollars
- 5:15Speaker 2: and overseeing a lot of financial responsibility for people. It's
- 5:19Speaker 2: just a different level a game you're playing, but that
- 5:21Speaker 2: game still goes on. And it's just like you got
- 5:24Speaker 2: to just have good habits and really hone in those
- 5:27Speaker 2: good habits, and if you have bad habits, that's what's
- 5:30Speaker 2: going to kill you. So how do you get your
- 5:32Speaker 2: bad habits to switch to good habits and do them
- 5:35Speaker 2: more consistent over a long period of time. But the
- 5:38Speaker 2: world doesn't get easier. Elon Musk said it best. He's like,
- 5:41Speaker 2: entrepreneurs are like literally staring down a black of this
- 5:46Speaker 2: and eating glass every single day, and you just got
- 5:49Speaker 2: to be super comfortable being uncomfortable in that. And when
- 5:52Speaker 2: you're just about like staring down a black abyss and
- 5:54Speaker 2: eating glass, it's like even as you get so higher up,
- 5:57Speaker 2: the like you get your entrepreneur journey gets high and higher,
- 6:00Speaker 2: the stakes may get bigger, but you may be more
- 6:02Speaker 2: comfortable in it because you're more comfortable of acting and
- 6:05Speaker 2: that way. So for me, it's that that the one
- 6:09Speaker 2: piece of advice is is you're better off. Just be
- 6:13Speaker 2: better than where you were yesterday. Be a better version
- 6:15Speaker 2: of you, and don't quit. Just keep grinding through it,
- 6:18Speaker 2: thinking smart, thinking hard. But the moment you start letting
- 6:21Speaker 2: that abyss and you start letting that grind gets you down,
- 6:24Speaker 2: that's when you lose.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, success is a path, and everybody's
- 6:32Speaker 1: path is different. And for you, like growing up in
- 6:37Speaker 1: what sounds like a very disadvantaged you know childhood there, Yeah,
- 6:44Speaker 1: you know what was the family support, Like, how did
- 6:48Speaker 1: they did they help or were they hindrance?
- 6:53Speaker 2: Yeah? So for me, like my mom and dad were
- 6:56Speaker 2: divorced very young in my life, and so I was
- 7:00Speaker 2: raised by a single mother for the most part. That
- 7:02Speaker 2: was just working table, you know, waiting tables, on end jobs,
- 7:07Speaker 2: on Section eight housing and food stamps. So by the
- 7:09Speaker 2: time I was twelve, like you had no choice but
- 7:11Speaker 2: to figure it out, and that to me is I
- 7:15Speaker 2: think a gift. And also, as an older child, had
- 7:18Speaker 2: a younger brother and sisters, so I was always dialing
- 7:20Speaker 2: down on like how do I make a better life
- 7:23Speaker 2: for myself? So for me to have I mean, obviously
- 7:27Speaker 2: I had a family and and they were there to
- 7:29Speaker 2: support and all that, but financially that was not there.
- 7:32Speaker 2: So it was like, how hard are you going to work?
- 7:34Speaker 2: What are you going to do to get yourself in
- 7:35Speaker 2: a better put yourself in a better environment to succeed
- 7:38Speaker 2: in life. And that's where that skill came from. But
- 7:43Speaker 2: that's that was my background coming out. So to me,
- 7:45Speaker 2: it was actually an advantage growing up that way because
- 7:49Speaker 2: I didn't know what the other side of it looked like.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I just had to like figure it out. And I
- 7:55Speaker 2: think today a lot of things are just handed to
- 7:57Speaker 2: people and they don't know how to how to create
- 7:59Speaker 2: on their own.
- 8:01Speaker 1: So when you hear people talking like the government needs
- 8:05Speaker 1: to do more to help did the government help you
- 8:08Speaker 1: make your fortune?
- 8:10Speaker 2: They did not help me get my fortune. But I'll
- 8:12Speaker 2: tell you what was nice is there was a safety
- 8:14Speaker 2: net at some point. There was you know, food stamps,
- 8:18Speaker 2: there was Section eight housing and things of that nature.
- 8:22Speaker 2: There was great college options from student loans, pel grants
- 8:27Speaker 2: and stuff like that for someone like me to be
- 8:29Speaker 2: able to get out, to be able to do it.
- 8:31Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, living in America is the best
- 8:33Speaker 2: country ever because you can have that opportunity, so you
- 8:36Speaker 2: can you can get through. But I think the government
- 8:38Speaker 2: helps you with a certain safety net to be able
- 8:40Speaker 2: to help get through. But we have the best schools,
- 8:42Speaker 2: we have the best education systems. We got a free
- 8:45Speaker 2: economy and a free market that you can go create
- 8:48Speaker 2: whatever you want. So I think that's where the government's
- 8:51Speaker 2: been great, is like letting us letting entrepreneurs thrive. That's
- 8:55Speaker 2: why it's everyone wants to live in America.
- 8:57Speaker 1: And but that's where it's even this day, with things
- 9:02Speaker 1: going wrong a lot in the country, there's still America
- 9:06Speaker 1: is built on optimism and hope for a better tomorrow. Yeah,
- 9:10Speaker 1: is that still alive here or is it still possible?
- 9:13Speaker 2: Absolutely? Would you rather do it here or somewhere where else?
- 9:17Speaker 2: Would you want to do it. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
- 9:21Speaker 2: I'm telling you. We see entrepreneurship all the time. We
- 9:23Speaker 2: see people grinding and scaling, doing their thing. Whatever is
- 9:27Speaker 2: happening inside the government and the world, it gets and
- 9:30Speaker 2: it goes and swings. We have these things and we
- 9:33Speaker 2: gotta we got to learn how to be in that environment.
- 9:37Speaker 2: But when you do live in a free economy and
- 9:39Speaker 2: a free world, free free country and the way we
- 9:41Speaker 2: do things, it gives you a lot of opportunity. You
- 9:45Speaker 2: just got to know which side to play on.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So as far as mentors or people who
- 9:51Speaker 1: inspired you when you were younger, can you give us
- 9:53Speaker 1: a few.
- 9:55Speaker 2: I mean, I think for me it was like you
- 9:57Speaker 2: just take a lot from everyone you're with, from me
- 10:00Speaker 2: my way out of my situation with sports. So mentorship
- 10:05Speaker 2: for me was like football coaches, the basketball coaches, people
- 10:09Speaker 2: there are just like pushing you to do better when
- 10:13Speaker 2: I was younger, and that that was that. So like
- 10:16Speaker 2: my football coach, coach Scotten, and the linebacker coaches always say,
- 10:20Speaker 2: you know you can be successful, and then when you
- 10:22Speaker 2: see someone in front of you that's doing well, Like
- 10:24Speaker 2: there were some guys that are playing and they end
- 10:26Speaker 2: up going to the NFL and you see what they
- 10:28Speaker 2: were able to do, so you can shadow that. So
- 10:30Speaker 2: when you see someone that's actually doing really well, that
- 10:33Speaker 2: that mentorship really really wants benefit you. And even today
- 10:37Speaker 2: where I'm at now, there's guys that are twenty and
- 10:39Speaker 2: thirty years older than me that have been doing it
- 10:43Speaker 2: for a long time and they'll talk to you and
- 10:44Speaker 2: they'll tell you like, hey, here's how you how you
- 10:47Speaker 2: do things. So there's when you find successful people, they're
- 10:49Speaker 2: very willing to get back and just you just got
- 10:52Speaker 2: to ask the questions. You know.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I always say if you invest in yourself, that that
- 10:59Speaker 1: to investment will always pay multiple returns, more than a
- 11:03Speaker 1: government handout or anything else. Yeah, whether it's courses or
- 11:09Speaker 1: you know, yeah out there practicing whatever training. What role
- 11:16Speaker 1: do does managing your emotions play in success?
- 11:21Speaker 2: Scott? So invest like one of the things that we
- 11:25Speaker 2: focus on, and I think you nailed it. The most
- 11:27Speaker 2: important asset is you And no it's not your money,
- 11:31Speaker 2: it's not your portfolio, it's not your real estate, it's you.
- 11:35Speaker 2: So you always invest in yourself. So I think you
- 11:37Speaker 2: nailed that there. And when it comes to financial decisions,
- 11:42Speaker 2: there's three components to it. And the first one is
- 11:45Speaker 2: like your IQ, like how well you know money, But
- 11:49Speaker 2: the EQ, which is your emotional quote, and that's where
- 11:52Speaker 2: things go awry. And a lot of people make decisions
- 11:56Speaker 2: based on their emotions, not only just in the way
- 11:58Speaker 2: they manage money, but the way they get up every day,
- 12:00Speaker 2: the way they show up, the way they deliver, what
- 12:02Speaker 2: their belief systems on what they can do. So we
- 12:06Speaker 2: try to measure like here's your IQ when it comes
- 12:07Speaker 2: to money, here's your EQ, and then here's your experience.
- 12:10Speaker 2: And as you get better experience, like I was saying,
- 12:12Speaker 2: I get more experience now than I did before when
- 12:14Speaker 2: it comes to handling money and doing certain things, but
- 12:18Speaker 2: my emotions are still you still have to manage and
- 12:21Speaker 2: obtain those emotions. So the emotional thing, like literally we
- 12:25Speaker 2: have ten thousand clients here in twenty five hundred households,
- 12:28Speaker 2: and you almost feel like you're a psychologist more than
- 12:30Speaker 2: you are anything. And it's not just for your money
- 12:35Speaker 2: management and like how you manage your emotions. It's the
- 12:37Speaker 2: business owner that's trying to scale and grow and you're
- 12:40Speaker 2: helping them. So we've built these systems out to help
- 12:42Speaker 2: them help entrepreneurs with their help them get inside their
- 12:45Speaker 2: own head and have the discipline is necessary to be
- 12:47Speaker 2: able to scale and grow themselves. So I would say
- 12:51Speaker 2: eighty five percent of it's your mind game.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Yeah, hey so, but sometimes the life can get scary.
- 12:59Speaker 1: What do you think it was the scariest moment on
- 13:01Speaker 1: your path to success?
- 13:05Speaker 2: I think you always. I think every day is a
- 13:07Speaker 2: scary moment in some way. It's like you got to
- 13:10Speaker 2: make you know, you know, I probably make one hundred
- 13:12Speaker 2: and some decisions a day, and you can make them,
- 13:15Speaker 2: you know, are they the right choices? And you got
- 13:17Speaker 2: to make your right your decision right. So even though
- 13:20Speaker 2: I made the decision, you can ever make the decision right.
- 13:23Speaker 2: But as you go through. I think my my biggest
- 13:27Speaker 2: thing was like even being broke as a kid and
- 13:30Speaker 2: coming out of that, I always felt like it was
- 13:31Speaker 2: felt like you were a helpless And I just remember
- 13:34Speaker 2: when I actually made it and I started to be
- 13:36Speaker 2: a little bit successful, and I was. It was in
- 13:38Speaker 2: two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine, and
- 13:40Speaker 2: the whole real estate market was crashing down. I was
- 13:42Speaker 2: in Tampa at the time, and it felt like, wow,
- 13:45Speaker 2: the world's coming down. A lot of people were trying
- 13:47Speaker 2: to spile bankruptcy and all that stuff, and I just
- 13:49Speaker 2: kept that optimism and that abundance mindset. I was like, look,
- 13:53Speaker 2: maybe there's a better way. Maybe there's the way we
- 13:55Speaker 2: can work this out. May there's the way we can
- 13:57Speaker 2: hold on. And I think those kinds of time is
- 14:00Speaker 2: when I've learned so much. So it's like in those
- 14:02Speaker 2: hard times you do better. So then when COVID hit
- 14:06Speaker 2: and everyone's freaking out. During COVID, I was like, man,
- 14:08Speaker 2: this is nothing, this is easy, Like we got this.
- 14:11Speaker 2: So I think you start to go through these really
- 14:13Speaker 2: hard times and they end up becoming that's when you
- 14:14Speaker 2: win the game. It's like when it gets really difficult
- 14:17Speaker 2: and hard, that's when you're are. So when I felt
- 14:19Speaker 2: like it was so helpless and bleak at a time,
- 14:20Speaker 2: I was like, that's where your emotions comes, Like this
- 14:22Speaker 2: is actually when you double down on this opportunity. And
- 14:25Speaker 2: I almost I flipped that around the other way, but
- 14:27Speaker 2: those were But I think that's it happens a lot.
- 14:30Speaker 2: I think we have a lot of hard times every
- 14:32Speaker 2: single day, like and it's just how you deal with them.
- 14:35Speaker 2: But those big economic downturns were really hard for me.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Because it impact a lot of people's lives and that's
- 14:40Speaker 2: what we do for a living.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so you know, I totally can relate
- 14:47Speaker 1: to what you're saying. It's always darkest before the light.
- 14:51Speaker 1: That's what I always tell myself and like you, when
- 14:55Speaker 1: COVID hit, I saw it as one of the great
- 14:58Speaker 1: opportunities in life because cause just myself, going back to
- 15:03Speaker 1: two thousand and eight nine, the GFC, the Great Financial Collapse,
- 15:08Speaker 1: I took the fear mindset. I thought it was the
- 15:10Speaker 1: end of the world and I missed so many opportunities
- 15:14Speaker 1: Scott to really have just made huge sums of money
- 15:18Speaker 1: that I knew were there because I knew the crash
- 15:20Speaker 1: was coming, the real crash. I was in Las Vegas
- 15:25Speaker 1: and this was I think in eight and I looked
- 15:29Speaker 1: around and there was a seat of taxicabs before Uber
- 15:32Speaker 1: really took over, and they had signs on top of them,
- 15:37Speaker 1: you know, three bedroom, two bath townhouse, brand new, interest
- 15:42Speaker 1: only mortgage, no money down. And I said, this is it.
- 15:46Speaker 1: We're at the end because they've run out of buyers
- 15:49Speaker 1: and these are the only people they can get to
- 15:51Speaker 1: buy this stuff. And literally, and I was with my
- 15:55Speaker 1: partners as practicing law, very lucrative law practice. I turned
- 15:59Speaker 1: each other. I said, this is it. Crash is coming,
- 16:03Speaker 1: you know it. But I didn't do anything about it.
- 16:05Speaker 1: I could have, like Solt in my house and you know, Sultan,
- 16:10Speaker 1: my vacation has had enough money. I could have bought
- 16:12Speaker 1: up half of Florida at that point. And it was
- 16:16Speaker 1: only afterwards when I met a guy who was buying
- 16:18Speaker 1: up tax deed foreclosures in Lee County, and he was
- 16:23Speaker 1: buying up bank foreclosures, and you know, he'd done hundreds
- 16:27Speaker 1: of them, and I wasn't like, oh, he just told me, oh,
- 16:31Speaker 1: I did this. I actually went into the property records
- 16:34Speaker 1: and looked up every deal that he had made, and
- 16:38Speaker 1: I saw the money there. There was no question. The
- 16:41Speaker 1: least amount of money you made on flipping one of
- 16:43Speaker 1: these foreclosures was twenty grand. And you know, I realized
- 16:48Speaker 1: I had blown it, and I said, the next time
- 16:50Speaker 1: this happens, I'm not going to miss it. And now
- 16:54Speaker 1: right now I think we're getting another one of these opportunities.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Election uncertainty, you know, the security that you feel out
- 17:03Speaker 1: there in the world is is the equivalent almost of
- 17:08Speaker 1: a mini COVID or a many financial collapse, and yet
- 17:13Speaker 1: that's when the opportunities really present themselves.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I remember nine those years, I had fifteen
- 17:22Speaker 2: condos or something in Tampa, and I think the value
- 17:24Speaker 2: those were like twenty five cents in the dollar because
- 17:27Speaker 2: I thought, oh, and own all this real es state
- 17:29Speaker 2: and I didn't own the right kind of real estate personally.
- 17:32Speaker 2: But I would work a lot of developers, so I'd
- 17:34Speaker 2: help them buy I'd buy condos in their places and stuff.
- 17:36Speaker 2: And I Remembermber in our Yeah, we always protected against
- 17:43Speaker 2: downside downside profection. We use a lot of life insurance
- 17:46Speaker 2: that was uncorrelated to the market, so we had cash
- 17:48Speaker 2: store in those when the market corrected the bond prices
- 17:51Speaker 2: went up, we had trust work. So what we had
- 17:54Speaker 2: done a really good job is we did really good
- 17:56Speaker 2: job with cash management. So when the markets moved, we
- 18:00Speaker 2: are that our clients had money, so then they could
- 18:02Speaker 2: go back and buy those assets on the cheap or
- 18:04Speaker 2: do restructure because the banks would be like, well, you know,
- 18:08Speaker 2: we want that money. It's like, well, the money's protected,
- 18:11Speaker 2: you can't get it, but we'll do a deal, Like
- 18:13Speaker 2: can we work this out? So we did a lot
- 18:15Speaker 2: of workouts and stuff to be able to get there
- 18:17Speaker 2: and you fast forward from there, you know, cor right
- 18:22Speaker 2: now in the exact same hiss itself. So like we
- 18:27Speaker 2: just bought an office tower, like actually bought four towers
- 18:31Speaker 2: in the last eighteen months that were so value written
- 18:36Speaker 2: from COVID, Like we got one A Class A building,
- 18:40Speaker 2: we got a thirty's the net operating incomes three point
- 18:44Speaker 2: five million and it's fifty percent full, meaning you can
- 18:47Speaker 2: literally buy it right now and generate a ten percent
- 18:50Speaker 2: return on your money and you have huge upside. And
- 18:53Speaker 2: not to mention, we have a bunch of leases coming in,
- 18:55Speaker 2: so we literally have built this like massive real estate
- 18:58Speaker 2: portfolio on stuff where the banks are foreclosing, they're writing
- 19:02Speaker 2: it down, they're saying, no one's going back to the office,
- 19:04Speaker 2: none of stuff's ever going to happen. And what we're
- 19:06Speaker 2: seeing is the absolute opposite. We're seeing this thing being
- 19:09Speaker 2: we're resetting basis, we're getting stuff for ten percent of
- 19:11Speaker 2: replacement costs, and we're buying future cash flows. So we're
- 19:15Speaker 2: seeing huge opportunity and these assets and our clients are
- 19:18Speaker 2: in a situation where there uncorrelated to the market. They've
- 19:20Speaker 2: got assets that are able to manage the vault ultility,
- 19:25Speaker 2: so they can take advantage of these opportunities they present themselves.
- 19:27Speaker 2: So now we're like sitting there going, wow, I'm glad
- 19:29Speaker 2: I went through all these hardships to get to here.
- 19:31Speaker 2: So then when the real party starts to your point,
- 19:34Speaker 2: I can take massive action.
- 19:37Speaker 1: That's amazing. So office buildings, who would think, so you're
- 19:40Speaker 1: really a contrarian contrarian investor.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, yeah, because we don't want to follow the
- 19:47Speaker 2: limits off the mountain. So you're you're over there buying
- 19:50Speaker 2: building multifamily projects and you got to exit them at
- 19:53Speaker 2: five caps and four caps. Well, you're safe with draw
- 19:55Speaker 2: rates five right now. In treasuries, there's no way you're
- 19:58Speaker 2: going to be in a lot of trouble if if
- 20:00Speaker 2: you can't make sure that that thing is working at
- 20:02Speaker 2: a very high level. So we're buying stuff where it's
- 20:05Speaker 2: working at ten and twenty caps when we get them
- 20:08Speaker 2: ready to go, So where there's huge margin of error
- 20:11Speaker 2: and margin of safety for when you go into those
- 20:13Speaker 2: things because you're buying them at you can't even get
- 20:16Speaker 2: they're basically geting for land costs. Essentially, what you're doing
- 20:20Speaker 2: and the three keys to the real estate location, location, location.
- 20:23Speaker 2: So now you're buying things in the urban core that
- 20:26Speaker 2: have the most unbelievable desirable locations and you can't even
- 20:29Speaker 2: build the stuff for less than ten percent of replacement costs,
- 20:32Speaker 2: So you're getting it for twenty seven dollars a fifty
- 20:35Speaker 2: bucks a foot. Very contrarian, but that's what we're doing
- 20:39Speaker 2: and we're having huge success in it.
- 20:41Speaker 1: All Right, So what if people don't go back to
- 20:43Speaker 1: the office. Is there a way to monetize those assets,
- 20:50Speaker 1: because it seems like I guess, you know, it feels
- 20:57Speaker 1: like people just don't really uh, they aren't going to
- 21:02Speaker 1: go back to the office.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Yeah, so zoom is probably what I think. We're on
- 21:07Speaker 2: zoom right now. They just mandated all their employees work
- 21:10Speaker 2: in the office, like come back to the office. They're
- 21:12Speaker 2: mandating at scale, we have a mandate here in our
- 21:16Speaker 2: office where we need people in the office to do
- 21:18Speaker 2: collaboration to build best practices. So certain companies definitely will
- 21:22Speaker 2: be working more of a hybrid. Probably is like I
- 21:26Speaker 2: think what you'll see, But there's something to be said
- 21:28Speaker 2: of actual collaboration and things you can do inside of
- 21:31Speaker 2: your environment. So a lot of these companies need that.
- 21:34Speaker 2: So these law firms. They're taking multiple floors in that
- 21:36Speaker 2: the Indiana Supreme Court rents from us, so we've got
- 21:39Speaker 2: a lot of actual we're seeing the opposite of that
- 21:42Speaker 2: where they're like, we need to get you back in
- 21:43Speaker 2: the office, and we need to start seeing this happen.
- 21:46Speaker 2: But what they need to do is take these spaces
- 21:48Speaker 2: that no one want to wants to be in and
- 21:49Speaker 2: make them vibrant again. So like what we're doing is
- 21:51Speaker 2: we're converting some into hotels, We're creating more retail centers there,
- 21:56Speaker 2: We're building things around it to make it more of
- 21:59Speaker 2: an attraction area, yeah, versus the anti office, which I
- 22:02Speaker 2: hate the office myself. It's like, if you will look
- 22:05Speaker 2: at our office, you doesn't even look like an office.
- 22:07Speaker 2: It's got it's got a gym in, it's got a
- 22:09Speaker 2: basketball court, it's got golf sim it's like it's like
- 22:12Speaker 2: someone's living room. It's like a it's like a house.
- 22:15Speaker 2: It's not really an office. So the way you repurpose
- 22:17Speaker 2: this real estate and make them more of a lifestyle
- 22:20Speaker 2: type of place where people want to be, that's what
- 22:23Speaker 2: we're seeing. It's starting to work in this space, in
- 22:25Speaker 2: these in these buildings that we're buying.
- 22:27Speaker 1: All right, Hey, really interesting conversation here. I guess you're
- 22:33Speaker 1: following Warren Buffett. When there's blood in the streets, that's
- 22:35Speaker 1: when you buy. When everyone's happy and thinks things can
- 22:39Speaker 1: never go bad again, that's when you sell. Scott, where
- 22:42Speaker 1: do we find you? How do we connect with you
- 22:43Speaker 1: on the web?
- 22:45Speaker 2: Yeah, so my our website's invest i nvst dot com.
- 22:51Speaker 2: We have principles the financial Freedom. So if you want
- 22:54Speaker 2: to want help on this stuff, what we can do
- 22:57Speaker 2: if you go on the website, we can go through
- 22:59Speaker 2: an assessment, which is really like help you clearly define
- 23:01Speaker 2: your why. We help you build out your virtual game
- 23:04Speaker 2: board where you can weigh and measure financial decisions and
- 23:07Speaker 2: really create rules to your money. So you'll see the
- 23:09Speaker 2: six key principles in there. But that's the best way
- 23:11Speaker 2: to reach out, and I'd be more happy to sit
- 23:14Speaker 2: down and just go through a quick Hey here's how
- 23:17Speaker 2: I see the world, and here's how I think we
- 23:19Speaker 2: can help in a big way. But that's the easiest
- 23:21Speaker 2: way to reach me. And then obviously my personal site
- 23:24Speaker 2: Scott Jared dot com, and that's another way to meet.
- 23:27Speaker 2: If you guys want anything, you want me to help
- 23:29Speaker 2: speak or help motivate employees or whatever. I'm good for
- 23:33Speaker 2: all that stuff as well.
- 23:34Speaker 1: All right, well you motivated, Nie, Scott and good. You
- 23:38Speaker 1: know it's your success or your failure. It all happens upstairs, right, Yeah,
- 23:43Speaker 1: that's where it takes place and then it just manifests
- 23:46Speaker 1: itself in the real world. So appreciate you coming on.
- 23:51Speaker 1: You've got a question for Scott myself, Shoot me an
- 23:53Speaker 1: email k el at Carrie LEDs dot com. Link to
- 23:56Speaker 1: Scott's sites in the show notes to this interview on
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- 24:10Speaker 2: Let's go from survival to thriving. Baby, Let's go