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- 0:07Hello, this is Elaine Williams was captivate the mic.
- 0:10Please forgive my, my voice, but I was committed to honoring my schedule and dropping this.
- 0:17I'm so happy that you're here.
- 0:18This is.
- 0:19An episode about creating collaboration with any audience.
- 0:24And I learned this from doing standup comedy in New York city and improv.
- 0:30I find what happens a lot of times speakers get nervous about the audience.
- 0:35They put them on a pedestal.
- 0:38And instead of creating, Hey, we're in this together.
- 0:41So we might as well have some fun, whatever the topic is going to be.
- 0:45It can be a super serious topic and you can still create partnership because here's the deal.
- 0:51When you're speaking, the audience wants you to be good and you want the audience to have fun and be leaning in because that makes you a better speaker.
- 1:01And a lot of times the audience doesn't know that.
- 1:04And one of the things I work with my clients and students on is when you can create partnership.
- 1:11It goes so far and it can really make the whole experience.
- 1:15Next level.
- 1:17I hope that you like this episode.
- 1:18I can't wait to hear what you think about it.
- 1:21I know it was really a life-changing thing for me on my journey towards being a pro speaker.
- 1:28I can't wait to see you on the screen or stage soon.
- 1:34Hello, this is Elaine Williams with Captivate the Mic, and I am coming to you live from Denver, Colorado, I wanted to talk today about creating partnership with your audience.
- 1:48I know that when I first started doing standup, I was terrified, how do you get to be better as a comedian?
- 1:53You get on stage in front of other humans and you try to make them laugh.
- 1:58And so you need an audience.
- 1:59And so I started producing my own show right away.
- 2:03And then I have to stand outside and beg people to come in and sit down and buy drinks and come to the show.
- 2:09And so sometimes I was secretly hoping nobody would come because I didn't want to feel vulnerable.
- 2:15When we always ended up having some kind of show, sometimes it was for five people.
- 2:20Sometimes it was for 50 people, but then it'd be like, Oh my God.
- 2:24Oh my God.
- 2:24The people are here now.
- 2:25We have to do it.
- 2:26That's what happens with speakers sometimes.
- 2:30You work so hard to get the gig, and then sometimes it's oh my gosh, this is a really big theater.
- 2:39Or, this is a really small, intimate room.
- 2:43You never know what kind of space you're going to be in until you get there.
- 2:47And so one of the things that I've learned from spending hours and days and really years on stage is when I can create, we're in this together.
- 3:01I'm not going to do something to you and you're not going to do something for me.
- 3:07We're already.
- 3:09On the same team, that is just such a great thing to dive into because No audience wants to feel like you're doing something to them or that you're speaking at them, right?
- 3:23We don't like that and I know what it's like as the recovering southern girl to need to be liked You know when I first started I was is this funny?
- 3:34God, I hope you like me.
- 3:35When I first started doing Facebook lives, I was I hope you like me.
- 3:39I don't want to take too much of your time.
- 3:41Let's talk about being bold, but really who I was being was, please don't heckle me.
- 3:47Please don't heckle me.
- 3:49So I was giving all the power to the audience or the perceived audience when it's, on social media or into a camera.
- 3:58So instead of coming from that place of need, what if you could create, Hey, we're in this together I want you to have a good time and you guys want me to have a good time because then we're all going to have more fun.
- 4:12And the time is going to go by whether we're doing comedy or talking about the tax laws of 1938 or.
- 4:21Insurance or, sometimes we have to talk about really tedious, hard subjects, but if you can acknowledge it, I just was at a conference and the woman said, Oh great, I'm the last speaker of the day right before you all go to dinner.
- 4:38So you're hungry, angry, and tired, but because she acknowledged what was in the room.
- 4:47We fell in love with her because she was like, I get it.
- 4:50I'm not going to be up here for three hours and trying to captivate you.
- 4:54I'm going to get to my message, so you can all get to happy hour or whatever it is you need to do.
- 5:00Cause you've been sitting in this room all day long.
- 5:02So many times just acknowledging what's in the space all right, I'm the first speaker.
- 5:09Anybody else feel like they're not awake yet?
- 5:11Anyone else?
- 5:12I need five more cups of coffee.
- 5:15That's a great way to start with humor to acknowledge what's going on in the audience.
- 5:20And what I use, I call hooking questions, which I'm going to do a whole series on that because to me, that is the way to start.
- 5:28Every video and every speech.
- 5:30It's infinitely more exciting.
- 5:33Thank you so much for having me.
- 5:35I'm really excited to be here.
- 5:38I'm really excited to blah, blah, blah.
- 5:40That's all about me.
- 5:42Who cares?
- 5:43The audience is like, why are you here?
- 5:45Why are you talking?
- 5:46Why do I have to listen to you?
- 5:47What isn't it for me?
- 5:49If you can start off right away, how many of you wish that you were already at happy hour?
- 5:55How many of you wish You had five more cups of coffee and maybe a decent breakfast.
- 6:01How many of you wish you didn't take that second helping at lunch because now you feel like you need a nap, right?
- 6:07Sometimes just acknowledging what's in the space is a great way to create instant rapport and basically tell the audience Hey, we're in this together.
- 6:17I want you to have fun.
- 6:18You want me to have fun because then it's going to go by quicker and better.
- 6:22And if I feel like you're into it, I'm going to give you my best.
- 6:26And so that is another thing I sometimes, depending on my topic, I used to speak on college campuses about really hard subjects like addiction, alcoholism and assault.
- 6:38I would say, Hey, we're going to talk about some tough stuff here, but I promise I'm going to leave you up.
- 6:44We're going to do some comedy too.
- 6:46And you're going to learn some things here that could save your life or your friend's life.
- 6:50So cool deal.
- 6:51That's cool.
- 6:53Or sometimes I would say, Hey, can this be a judgment free zone?
- 6:57I'm going to be sharing some vulnerable stuff and I really want you to hear it because it can make a difference for you.
- 7:03And so let's make this space a safe space.
- 7:07Now, obviously it depends on.
- 7:09If you're speaking to all of Google, you might not want to say that.
- 7:13It depends on the context and where you are.
- 7:15But to me, that is a great way to create context with your audience.
- 7:22So you're creating this partnership from the very minute you step on stage.
- 7:27Also I was working with a client today.
- 7:30And she is a keynote for this women's conference, and she's absolutely stunning.
- 7:37So I'm encouraging her to make some kind of self deprecating remark, because when she first walks on stage, It's Oh, she's perfect.
- 7:47She's tall and thin and gorgeous.
- 7:50And there's a part of me that's but if she can say, Hey, I was really nervous.
- 7:55I felt like my inner dork was here a big time.
- 7:58I felt like I was in the cafeteria in seventh grade looking for a place to sit desperate to not sit by myself, but not sit with the nerds, anybody else.
- 8:07We've had those moments, right?
- 8:09That we're sharing our humanity and sharing that no matter how much of an expert we are, no matter how successful we are, we still have these common human insecurities and traits.
- 8:24And that is such an equalizer.
- 8:27I love talking about humor.
- 8:30If you've been following me, I talk about it a lot and I'm going to keep talking about it because I need it.
- 8:36I think we all need to laugh.
- 8:38I know that when we laugh, we release toxins, we burn calories, we take in more oxygen, we create the feel good chemicals in our brain, and it can, Release the walls that keep us separate from that other, from that tribalism, that other hey, we're all on the same team human.
- 8:57We may have different points of view, but in the end, we're on the same team.
- 9:02So that's one reason I love talking about humor and starting off with it.
- 9:07Which can feel vulnerable, but that's how people can relate, when you come out, I've done all this and I'm the expert or when your bio says I've done, it can be off putting for some people.
- 9:21So obviously you have credibility, but you also want to have your vulnerability.
- 9:25Those are two key factors.
- 9:28And it depends on the group and who introduced you.
- 9:34As to how vulnerable or credible you want to be.
- 9:38It really depends.
- 9:39It's very situational.
- 9:43I specialize in vulnerability.
- 9:46And when I was speaking on college campuses, I was asked to speak for a private college who shall remain nameless in Montana.
- 9:56I'd never been to Montana.
- 9:58I did not understand the culture of Montana.
- 10:01I did not understand the denial.
- 10:05At this very religious, school.
- 10:08I did not understand the culture and I made a grave mistake.
- 10:13I was way too vulnerable.
- 10:15I still could have been vulnerable, but in a much more measured way.
- 10:19So that was a great.
- 10:21Learning lesson for me that I'll go into deeper on another episode.
- 10:26So anyway, that's the power of being vulnerable and being credible, starting off and with the intention that we're creating partnership with the audience.
- 10:37The other thing I want to say about that is that you're coming from a position of power.
- 10:44But not from a cocky position, but from a position of I'm going to give you some information that is the best thing since sliced bread, right?
- 10:56You are a gift.
- 10:57You have been asked or paid or both to go speak to a group of people.
- 11:03in person or virtually.
- 11:05And when you come from a place of, Oh, this is so juicy.
- 11:09I love this content.
- 11:11You're going to love it.
- 11:11It's really going to help you.
- 11:13That is such a fun place to come from.
- 11:17My friend calls it donut energy.
- 11:19But just, I think of it as Oh, this is just yummy.
- 11:22And I know it's going to really make a difference for you as opposed to Oh, I hope you like me.
- 11:29Here's my presentation.
- 11:31I hope it's okay, which is how I used to be.
- 11:34So that has taken a lot of stage time and a lot of coaching and mentorship to come from a place of I'm about to give you the bee's knees, so you want to lean in and listen.
- 11:47And I hope you like me.
- 11:49Of course I do.
- 11:50I'm human.
- 11:51But I don't need you to like me, because guess what?
- 11:55I like me.
- 11:56I like me.
- 11:57I am imperfectly perfect.
- 11:58It's not about being perfect, it's about being authentic and giving your gifts, sharing your information, but coming from a place of this is so juicy, you're gonna love it.
- 12:09Even if it's tedious, like tax things, it's going to help you in some way and your job and your position and your relationship with your body, with your health, whatever it is that you're teaching and training about.
- 12:22And that is infinitely more engaging than somebody who needs you.
- 12:29We've all been there, right?
- 12:31Have you ever seen the speaker who walks out on stage and you're are they gonna make it?
- 12:35I start breathing for them.
- 12:36Are they breathing?
- 12:37I think she's gonna make it.
- 12:38She looks like she's gonna pass out.
- 12:40We don't want you to be like that.
- 12:42And if you work with me, you will never be like that.
- 12:45But coming from a place of I have a gift to share and you're gonna love it.
- 12:50And if you don't, okay, some of you will get that on the way home.
- 12:54That's one of my saver lines.
- 12:56All another episode so creating partnership With the audience for the moment you walk on stage and not needing them to like you, you can hope you can set the intention, but you don't need them.
- 13:12You're here giving your beautiful information and some people may not like you.
- 13:18You're not everybody's cup of tea.
- 13:21Can you be okay with that?
- 13:23And as speakers, a lot of times there's a hundred people.
- 13:26Smiling and nodding their heads.
- 13:28And there's one person glowering.
- 13:31And who do we focus on?
- 13:32As a comedian.
- 13:33Oh my gosh.
- 13:34I could tell you the stories I was a keynote and it was a blast.
- 13:38It was a gorgeous stage and it was 500 people.
- 13:44And later on, this lady came up to me and said, I'm so sorry.
- 13:47I was asleep in the first row.
- 13:49I'm on some new medication.
- 13:51And, and she was in her late sixties and I was laughing because I didn't even notice.
- 13:57And in the past I would have been like offended but you know what, people are people.
- 14:02You never know what's going on.
- 14:03So it's you want to be connecting with the audience.
- 14:06You want to feel the vibe of what's going on with them to the degree that you can.
- 14:12And you don't want to kill yourself, twisting yourself into a knot.
- 14:16I worked with Debbie Ford.
- 14:17She was my coach.
- 14:19I got certified with her.
- 14:21Master's essentials and spiritual divorce.
- 14:24She has passed, but she was on the New York Times bestselling list.
- 14:27She spoke to Oprah many times.
- 14:29She worked with Deepak Chopra and she used to always say, half of the room is going to love you, and half of the room is not going to love you.
- 14:37So would you rather, Twist yourself into a pretzel trying to make everybody love you and then you hate yourself or be your true self and vibe with the people who are vibing with you.
- 14:49And I always thought that was really freeing.
- 14:51It's really freeing.
- 14:53So create partnership with your audience.
- 14:58Don't need them.
- 15:00Come out loving yourself.
- 15:02So that means a good warm up.
- 15:04That means spiritual practice.
- 15:05That means probably a good workout, a good night's sleep.
- 15:10Eating well, there's a lot of things for self care that you can do to help you stay in a high state.
- 15:15Avoid the news, avoid family members who stress you out, all that stuff.
- 15:21If you're not sure how to get there, give yourself lots of extra time because Murphy's law, construction, all the things.
- 15:29Okay, we've talked about creating partnership.
- 15:32And then one of the other things I know when I first started speaking, I started going to Toastmasters because I had been performing my entire life, but I, I didn't know how to speak as Elaine, the expert.
- 15:46So I started going to Toastmasters and I went for years.
- 15:50And one of the things.
- 15:51I learned was again, creating partnership and not being afraid if somebody raised a hand or interjected something or called out.
- 16:05Now, a lot of speakers are like, Oh, I don't like interaction.
- 16:09That's another good reason you should work with me or start doing some improv or standup comedy, because.
- 16:17When you can dance with whatever comes up in the room, you're free.
- 16:24It doesn't mean you have to know every answer.
- 16:27If someone asks you a question, you can say, great question.
- 16:31I'm going to get to that later.
- 16:33Or, fabulous question, I'm actually going to be answering that in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 16:39Or, thank you for asking that, I'd like to talk with you offline because that's very specific to your situation.
- 16:46Or, you know what, that's a great question I'm going to do some research and I will get back to the whole group.
- 16:53And as I was saying, let's go on from here with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 16:58So that's an example of yes, anding.
- 17:01Okay.
- 17:02So yes, anding is the first rule of improv when you're on stage with a partner.
- 17:09And in this case, if you're the speaker, your partner is the audience.
- 17:15You always want to make them look good, right?
- 17:18Unless someone's heckling you and that's a whole nother thing we'll talk about another time.
- 17:23If someone says, Hey, but what about.
- 17:26I can say that is a great point.
- 17:29I love it.
- 17:30And we can come back to that or, when you're doing improv, which I highly recommend if you're working on your speaking, if your partner says you're a yellow marshmallow on Mars.
- 17:44You don't say, no, I'm not, because that would kill the scene.
- 17:48You say, yes, and you are an orange cow on Jupiter, and somehow we're on this date on planet Earth, or whatever.
- 17:57The whole point of yes, and is that you make your partner great.
- 18:02So when someone raises a hand and wants to contribute, you can say, that is a great point.
- 18:09And I will come back to that.
- 18:11Or thank you for bringing that up, let's talk about that offline.
- 18:15You, that way, do you see how I'm not, like if someone raises their hand or interjects and you say no, or that's completely wrong or whatever, then it's disempowering.
- 18:27And then it makes the space, safe.
- 18:30Not feel safe.
- 18:31So yes, and is a great way.
- 18:33It's a great way to live your life And it's a great way to come from that place of yes And when you're speaking and that doesn't mean you're condoning everything people are saying Or that you're agreeing with everything you can say it's a way of being a gracious It's you're the host of the party and you're creating partnership with this audience.
- 18:58Yes.
- 18:58Okay.
- 18:59That is a, that's a, that is a valid point or that is very interesting or what an interesting opinion.
- 19:07Okay.
- 19:08Maybe we can talk about that later in the Q and a or over dinner.
- 19:13You see how you still made them great.
- 19:16Even if what they said was maybe preposterous.
- 19:19And so that is such a good rule to live by.
- 19:23Amy Poehler wrote a book called Yes, And.
- 19:25She was on Saturday Night Live forever.
- 19:27I miss her.
- 19:28She's so fun.
- 19:29And it's just a great rule to live by.
- 19:32Of making whoever you're with, Great.
- 19:35When I have a guest on my podcast, I want to make them great.
- 19:40I would never want to knock them down or hyper criticize them.
- 19:45I might give them some feedback on their story in a very loving sandwichy kind of way.
- 19:52The sandwich, I loved this.
- 19:54Next time I would really love if you could give me a little more juice with this or add some pauses or have some more vocal variety or maybe do an act out and, I also loved blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 20:09That's the sandwich.
- 20:11They give compliments and then the little bit of what they need to work on in the middle, right?
- 20:17Think about it.
- 20:18For some of us who grew up in dysfunction, it is very hard to receive feedback.
- 20:25I am I am so sensitive and I've tried for years to not be sensitive and I am so sensitive and so I work on that on a daily basis.
- 20:34That's why I have a 12 step program and I meditate and pray and do all my spiritual things because that helps me be less sensitive because I can be more sensitive.
- 20:43Way too sensitive.
- 20:45And my goal is to keep growing and learning authentically and evolving.
- 20:52And so that means I should welcome feedback at all times.
- 20:56I don't know if I can do it at all times.
- 20:58I want to be able to hear things and not be a reaction queen.
- 21:03And so that's why I do my spiritual practices.
- 21:06And that's another reason.
- 21:07I love improv because it helped me lighten the heck up.
- 21:10I was so intense.
- 21:11I was so intense.
- 21:12I was new in New York and I was like, Gotta make up for a long time! And the casting directors were like you need to take some improv, lady.
- 21:21You need to calm down.
- 21:22I was just so intense.
- 21:24I hope that this is helpful if you are coming back on stage, if you're thinking about becoming a speaker, if you're already a speaker, wherever you are in your speaking journey, being able to create partnership with any audience, whether it's two or two thousand.
- 21:41Is delicious.
- 21:43It's true leadership, right?
- 21:46Not needing them to like you, remembering to love yourself, being super centered and self cared before you put yourself out there, whether it's two or 2000 or on camera, and then The yes, anding.
- 22:03Yes, anding is such a great rule for life.
- 22:06Instead of saying or yes, but, try saying yes and see what doors will open up for you.
- 22:15I hope that you got a lot out of this.
- 22:16My name is Elaine, if you're just tuning in.
- 22:20And, I help female entrepreneurs show up powerfully on stage, on camera, and when they're podcast guesting so that they can make the most out of every opportunity so that you can have fun and have the most impact that you know, you're meant to make.
- 22:40On this planet, we all are wanting to expand our reach and help heal the planet.
- 22:45I believe that I'm doing God's work.
- 22:47I help the helpers.
- 22:48My mission is to help heal the world.
- 22:51One video, one joke, one story at a time.
- 22:54And I need a whole crew of people to help me do that.
- 22:57So if you know it's time, To put some attention on your speaking and we all know speaking is the very best way to grow your business so people can feel you and hear what you have to say and say, yes, I want to be on your email list.
- 23:14I would like to have a session with you.
- 23:16I would like to sign up for your blah, speaking is the best way.
- 23:21And we all can always be working on being better at it.
- 23:24So thank you so much for joining me.
- 23:26Please pass this on to somebody who needs it and please subscribe Rate and review because that's how people find out about this And I want this to go global and I cannot wait to see you on the screen or stage soon Bye for now.
- 23:45Bye