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None. Flat Earth.
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Dave, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
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Hey Jerem, thanks for having me back.
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Looking forward to the discussion.
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It's always as we were just discussing this topic is I think
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the most important topic of of all time.
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But if you don't understand what Flat Earth is and and are just
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programme with what you're told that it is, it seems like the
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dumbest thing on the world. Why waste time talking about it?
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Why is it the most important topic?
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Well, if you don't know where you live, who you are, what this
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place is, what our history is, the true power that we have.
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If you think that you're disconnected in a random
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universe, you evolved from Ponscam in an ever expanding
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ridiculous helio nonsensical system and you don't understand
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that we truly are at the centre of creation and there is much,
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much more here. I think that's just the
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beginning. That's a good start.
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So you know it. Literally living on a globe
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belief, I call it the globe religion is it stops you from
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living to your full potential. But I'm doing pretty good.
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You know I've got a good job. I get 2 weeks off every year to
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go on vacation, you know, and I'm only paying 30% in taxes
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instead of 40. If you understood what this
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place is, none of that would would matter.
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It would be it would be completely different.
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This place is an amazing centre of creation.
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We all have incredible powers that are being hidden from us.
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There is unlimited resources and everything we're being shown is
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a lie. And you know, if I'm sure we're
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on the same page on the mainstream media, all the stuff
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they show us is complete and total nonsense.
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Everything. It's all a stage, from politics
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to news stories to, you know, everything.
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It's all, it's all a show. And the way they get rid of it,
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the way, the way, excuse me, the way they get away with it is
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they've convinced us that we're spending out of control, lost in
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space, and that we're nothing. And so if you if you don't have
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a good foundation, you can believe that breathing our
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grandma will kill her. You mentioned creation a couple
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times. Well, a lot of people say, oh,
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are you religious? Are you, you know, is it a
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really a spiritual thing? It absolutely is not.
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It's a it's a, it's an understanding of the true
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reality of our world. But the question is, you know,
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what is our world? This is a spiritual place.
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We are in a spiritual war. The, the people, and I'll put
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people in quotation marks that are running this place are doing
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it for energy. It's all an energy exchange.
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They they literally are after our energy.
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We are you can look at the movie The Matrix.
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It's more of a documentary than a fantasy movie.
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So yeah, it is a spiritual war. Our, there are our souls, if you
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will, are under attack. They're being used to, I guess
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what's the word I'm looking for, feed evil.
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Once you understand, you know how they control us.
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And, and it's very, actually very simple.
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The way they control us, the only way they control us is
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through fear, right? So fear, false evidence
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appearing, real FEAR is the is the way that controls.
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If you are in fear, you are giving your energy away.
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The truth is there's nothing to be afraid of.
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We are at the centre of creation there.
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This place is abundant, safe, and we have amazing abilities on
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every level from health, wealth, thriving, everything.
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So yeah, it is a spiritual war. And people say, well, you know,
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a lot of a lot of Christians are, are flat earthers.
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Sure. Well, find any group.
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There's a lot of Christians in almost any group.
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But it that's not what makes you a flat earther.
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What makes you a flat earther to me is the science, the science
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of what this place is. People that believe in the globe
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don't know what they're defending.
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They don't know their own model. You ask them what the radius is,
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the circumference is, the speed, how that it's orbiting, the fact
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that it's chasing the sun, that they don't even know how far the
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sun is, how big the sun is, how those those things are figured
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out. They don't know any of it, but
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they'll still defend their position.
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So they're literally defending a religion that they don't know
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anything about. And flat earthers know more
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about the heliocentric globe religion than the people that
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defend it. Because that's how we became
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flat earthers. If you understood the system
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that they tell you you live in, you would become a flat earther.
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Because it's ridiculous. As far as I understand Dave,
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historically people did believe that Earth is flat, from I think
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Egyptian cosmology to Mesopotamia to even ancient
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Greece. I think Homer himself argued
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that Earth was flat. They've been, you know, we're,
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we're taught that Earth is that, that Flat Earth has been
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disproven 2000 years ago by Eratosthenes, which is
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ridiculous. We, if we, we can look at that
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if you want. But they were teaching Flat
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Earth into the 1900s, the 1900s. I met a woman named Ruth at an
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old age home. She was 102 years old.
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And I was interviewing her about the world's fairs.
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And she, she, she had been to the world's fairs and it was
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amazing. And she had such a sharp memory
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and everything. And I said, hey, when you were
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in elementary school, what did they teach you about the earth?
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Only thing I said, and she goes, they taught me the earth was
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flat. And I was like, really?
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And then I said that. And then afterwards they told
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her it wasn't flat and she just believed them.
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And, and when I told her that the earth was flat and that we
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are at the centre of creation, she literally broke down in
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tears. It was, it was absolutely
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amazing. And this, that's a short, quick
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little story. This, this video started going
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went viral, but it was uploaded to hundreds, hundreds and
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hundreds of channels. And I told everybody we need to
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go to old age homes right now and find people that are over
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100 years old that still have their wits about them and
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interview them about what they were taught in school.
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And then a couple days later, this was in 2020, the the
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lockdown happened and all old age, old age homes worldwide
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were shut down. Some people say that could be my
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fault, but I don't know. But the thing for me, Dave, that
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makes this topic so interesting is the fact that it is it is
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treated like a circus act, and that's probably by design. 100%
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that there there is a I mean besides all the bots out there,
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there's paid agents out there that they're all working
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together to to shoot down every video.
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You'll notice here when you post this video, the bots will show
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up before the flat earthers will show up.
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The paid trolls will show up and the way you can tell is you look
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at all of the pro, you know, hey, Dave's on, you know, this
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is good and check out this proof in that video.
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These are from real accounts. You look at the people, they
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have videos and everything. You go to the accounts that just
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say, oh, Dave's a grifter and and you know, you're, you're
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being scammed. Everything look at their
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accounts empty. Nothing, no, nothing.
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There's people that have been following me around for 10
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years. They still have 0 content on
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their channel. So these are, you know, these
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are paid people to dissuade people from looking farther.
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And you, by the way, you know, negative comments and stuff
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work. People read the negative
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comments and they're influenced by them.
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So that's what they do. The point I was making earlier
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is that for the longest time people did believe Earth is
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flat. So when did this change and why?
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Well, it was changed by the Rockefellers when they took over
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the I, I would say it happened when they took over the
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education system. I think it was in 19-O2 And they
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were, they, they literally removed the AE map out of the,
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out of, you know, all the libraries in the 1950s and they
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stopped teaching that. And the reason they, so the, the
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question is why? Yes.
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Why? Yeah, why?
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Why did they do it? Because if you knew where you
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lived, if you knew who you were, if you knew that there's more
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probably more land, probably more places to go.
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You can't be controlled. But they have us in an invisible
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fenced farm where we don't pull, You know, where we think that's
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it. There's there's nothing else,
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right? They, they have us believing
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that we live on this ball where where there there is no more.
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For example, they if you take hold on, let me just pull this
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up. So here, here's the map.
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Let me pull this up. There you go.
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Here's the map. This is the map that was in all
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encyclopaedias schools. They were teaching on it.
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This is the called the AE map. And what they did is they cut it
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out and they wrapped it around a ball and they said you're not
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allowed to go to this white area at the bottom because the
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Penguins, we can't disturb the Penguins and the ice, right?
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You're, you're not, you're, you're not allowed to go here,
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right? So think about that.
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What, what could be beyond there?
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What if we did that to Australia, right?
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What if we told Australians they can no longer, they can't go 500
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miles off their shoreline. So we draw a circle around that
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and anytime they get out there, the military stops them since
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stop, you can't go out here, disturb the Penguins, the
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migration routes, and they wouldn't know about Europe,
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Africa, Russia, America, they would know about anything.
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And you wrap that around the ball and teach them that's where
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they live. Think about that for us.
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Think of the world as a much, much bigger place, right?
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It could be, it could be anything.
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Again, we don't wait. Last thing, we don't know what's
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beyond 60° S. There's no independent
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exploration, free exploration beyond 60° S.
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Why is that? Why do all the countries in the
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world agree upon that? Yeah, I've also wondered that
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the Antarctic Treaty. Yeah.
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The Antarctic Treaty in 1959, I think they, they all of a sudden
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all the countries in the world agreed that nobody can explore
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Antarctica. It was supposedly right after
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Admiral Byrd went out to Antarctica, said he found more
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land bigger than the United States on the other side of the
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South Pole. Well, the other side of the
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South Pole from where he was coming from would be in between
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Africa and Australia. Well, I think that somebody
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would see something know about land bigger than the United
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States. You know, it's, it's, it's
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quite, it's quite interesting, you know, And then they also,
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it's called Project High Jump because the shoreline of
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Antarctica, at least where they went, was way higher than the
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ocean, right? So if you look at the average
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elevation of all the countries in the world, Antarctica is over
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twice the height of #2 So large bodies of water need
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containment, right? You can't bring me a gallon of
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water without a container, right?
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Right. Water at rest lies flat.
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So think of the world as a giant pond, and Antarctica is the
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shoreline of our pond. Now, does the shoreline of
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Antarctica go all the way around?
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I actually don't think so anymore.
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I think that it goes out beyond where they're telling us.
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And maybe there's other Suns out there, heat sources.
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But again, that's just speculation because we're not
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allowed to go there. We don't need to speculate
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what's beyond 60° S or what's over our heads that we can't
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verify to tell us the shape of the Earth.
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We can measure the shape of the Earth because they gave us the
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radius. They gave us the radius.
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So we can use their claims to disprove their disprove, you
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know, their claims. But now, I mean, you've
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obviously heard loads of attempted counter arguments
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like, well, what about Pythagoras and, and, and of
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course you know, the people who came after him.
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Like Eratosthenes. Yeah, and.
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Yeah, well, these are all people that.
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Have you ever met any of them? All right, there's people in
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today's news that I don't even know are real.
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I mean, we don't even want to get into the Charlie Kirk
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situation, right? So I don't even know if any of
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these people existed. But think about this.
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Eratosthenes. Eratosthenes.
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He's the guy that said, well, you know, the sun's so far away
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that the light rays come in parallel.
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No one's ever seen parallel light rays, right?
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And he didn't experiment with his sticks and shadows.
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Whether it's a well or sticks, the story just keeps changing.
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And, you know, he measured no shadow where he was.
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And his friend 500 miles away that figured out he was 500
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miles away because he walked and counted his steps.
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And somehow they knew how to take the measurement at the
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exact same time and communicate with each other.
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And he had a shadow. Well, if the sun was ever so far
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away, you know, was infinitely far away, 93,000,000 miles, the
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only way you'd have a shadow is if the earth was curved.
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And that's what Carl Sagan put into our brains and and
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everything. But on a Flat Earth with a small
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local sun, you got the light here, no shadow.
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You have a shadow here. You can do the same math
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Eratosthenes did on a Flat Earth and tell you tell us that that
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that this is curved and it's not.
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So again, they used Eratosthenes story, which is a ridiculous
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story to say that the Greeks figured out 2000 years ago and
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then nobody ever cheques to verify it.
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This does not prove Flat Earth. It works on both.
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That that's that sun distance of 93,000,000 miles.
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I mean, it's such an absurd number anyway, but what is then
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the Flat Earth distance? And then and in that case, what
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is the sun? Those are great questions.
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So first thing is falsification, when you falsify something is
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independent of replacement, right?
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You could say, hey, I'm, I've got, I've got 10 gallons of
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water in this cup. Well, you can figure out that
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that's impossible. You can falsify it.
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And then you can't say, well, where's the 10 gallons?
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You know, like until you show me where the 10 gallons is, you
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know, you don't have to replace something.
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I don't know if that was the greatest example, but we don't
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know how far the Sun is. We don't know what the sun is.
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And neither do heliocentric people, right?
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They tell us the sun is made out of 99% helium and hydrogen that
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defy gravity on Earth, right. Helium and hydrogen to fly
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gravity put in a balloon, it goes up and gas violently fills
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the available space. And we can prove that with
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vacuum chambers, right? We, we can put, let's say we put
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a where is it? We put a football.
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Let me see if this yeah, in a, in a vacuum chamber and the gas
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explodes, it wants to escape, right.
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So when you put gas in space, it doesn't collapse upon each other
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upon itself to create a sun. It expands, but for some reason
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the gases collapsed into a sun. The sun burns like 640 billion
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tonnes a day or a minute or whatever.
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It's something ridiculous for billions of years and never gets
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any smaller. The gravity of the helium and
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hydrogen that defy gravity, which is a gas in space, which
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defies natural law, somehow can hold on to Pluto, but doesn't
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affect our moon, right. The entire gravitational model
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is absolutely absolute nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
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The moon thing is confusing because what what what What the
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argument therefore is, is that the gravity of Earth is stronger
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than the gravity of the Sun. Well, the the the argument they
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give is the moon is closer to the Earth, therefore the Earth's
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gravity outweighs the sun's gravity.
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Some kind of just skirts around our gravity and goes and holds
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on to Pluto, which we can't even see, right?
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It's stupid. Here's the thing.
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The reason you can't figure it out, it's you're, you're not
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stupid. It's stupid, right?
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And because you can't figure it out, you, you were like, well,
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you know, I don't understand that.
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You know, the guy with the bow tie with the lab coat, He, he,
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he told me. So I have to believe it.
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I have to believe it. So the reason you can't figure
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out lots of the stuff is because it's stupid.
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The heliocentric, I call it the Helio nonsensical model is
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literally stupid. And when you finally can see it,
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you know you have to lay down your ego your entire life before
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you could reason. You were taught about the globe
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in kindergarten. They're they're having on your
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birthday, you, you, you, you take your birthday cake and you
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March around the sun. You, you circle the sun.
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They're literally in in indoctrinating you into these
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beliefs. So it's the foundation of your
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world. Because if it's the foundation
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of your world, you have no foundation.
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You're spinning, whirling and twirling out of control and
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you'll never get a a good footing to realise where you
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are. I mean, if you stand on, I don't
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know, the side of a, of a, of a huge lake and it's a very still
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day, that water sits dead still like it looks like a mirror.
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It doesn't move at all. Yeah, yeah, it, it's it.
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And at the same time, you know, and at the same time, if I fly
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on an aeroplane, I often look out the window at the horizon
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and it looks very straight. There's two things to that.
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So let's let's talk about that. If you, if you look, if you look
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out the window first, the windows curved.
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All right, let me just get a balloon shot here.
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So first the windows curved. So you do see a little
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curvature, but you'll see that when you're sitting on the
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ground. Also, when you look out, let's
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say you're looking out over calm water, you're looking
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straightforward. You only see a certain amount of
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distance before the sky in the ground ramp together.
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You, you, you see, you only see so far.
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Do you understand, you know the, the limitation of your eyes
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let's you see so far. So it's supposed to be 3 miles,
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right? A six foot tall person shouldn't
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be able to see the surface of the water beyond 3 miles.
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But we, we can, we can see far, far, far, far beyond that which
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is which is which is it? It falsifies the globe, but the,
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the globe at the dimensions that they give us.
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But when you look over at 1:00 two o'clock 3:00, you, you see
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the same distance to the horizon, the, the sky will
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converge. So that's creating a big circle
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around you. Do you understand?
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Yeah. It's create, it's creating a a
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flat circle. And then your indoctrination
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will tell you that that is, that is that that's.
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The curvature of the Earth here. Here's an example I was looking
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for. So talking and looking at the
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same time. So you could say, well, that
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looks really flat. But if you saw could see farther
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to side and side, you are seeing in a circle because you can see
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the same distance in all directions.
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So I'll put a guy here, I'll put the horizon line there.
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I'm going to take it out. We're going to take an A top
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down view and there's his 12:00. So that distance is shorter than
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those two distances. Well, his horizon is optical.
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It's not a physical place, it's an optical limitation of your
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eyes. So in reality, that's the
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horizon that he sees in all directions the same distance.
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So they'll say that's curvature, right?
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So you're looking at an aeroplane, you're looking at the
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horizon. You got the curved window
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screwing you up. You have your range of view
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that'll make you see a curve. But if you can see through that
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and understand what you're seeing, you'll be like, Oh yeah,
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it is flat. But it's a hard argument to get
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for somebody that really thinks the Earth is a globe because
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this is what they're seeing and they are seeing a curve.
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And when you put a tangent line across that you it it it shows
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the the curve of the horizon that you see.
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You suggested that that there's something beyond the Antarctic.
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So let me preface this by saying we don't know what's beyond 60°
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S, right? We're only allowed to go to this
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purple line, right? So we don't know what's out
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here. Is there more land?
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Is there more oceans? Are there are there other ponds?
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We don't know, but I do like to speculate about it.
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So what if the world was set up like this?
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Right here we are, America, South America, Australia, right?
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We live here in the middle. This would be the ice of
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Antarctica, the land of Antarctica, whatever.
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Antarctica could just be a couple of of continents out
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here. And because the sun, our sun
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that pivots in and out never gets close enough.
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It's just frozen. But out here is more land.
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Could be, I don't know if I had to bet on it.
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I think there is more land beyond 60° SI think.
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I think, you know, some people say on Flat Earth the Dome comes
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down in Antarctica. Could be, don't know, right?
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Or maybe there's another million miles before the Dome comes down
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or more, right? Another million miles would make
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a lot of room for a lot of different scenarios.
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This is an old map that was found in a Buddhist temple, 10
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centuries old, and it was published in 19 O7 in Hawaiian
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magazine. And it's showing all these other
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continents out there, right? Take that, take this map, wrap
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it around a basketball, and all of this stuff out here would be
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crunched up at the bottom. And they say, oh, that's
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Antarctica, right? There are no pictures of
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Antarctica from space, so let's let me let me pull that up.
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I'll show you a view. Google anyone listening.
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You could just Google Antarctica from space.
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I don't use Google by the way, Dave.
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OK, well, you can use whatever you want.
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Antarctica. Good for you.
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Good for you. And that there's it's it's tough
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to get good results out there. Antarctica from space.
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Here we go. So this is what you get.
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It's all cartoons. But but what about what about
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the places that aren't cartoons on Google Earth?
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They're all those pictures are taken from high flying
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aeroplanes, you know, making grids across the world and
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stitching them all together. Google Earth didn't add
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curvature until I think 2001, right?
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Google Earth was flat until 2001 where they added curvature.
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Maybe it was even 2003, I'm not sure, but they take pictures.
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So if you go on Google Earth, anywhere you zoom in out,
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there's my house, I recognise that zoom out, there's my town,
24:03
there's everything. It's looking good.
24:05
And all of a sudden it switches to cartoons at a certain
24:07
altitude. Good cartoons like high res
24:10
cartoons, but it's you can tell it just switches to cartoons.
24:14
Wait a minute, if this is from space and they can get a zoom in
24:17
of my house, why does the interim above a certain altitude
24:22
in between the how come that has to be a cartoon?
24:24
Why is why? Why can't they zoom?
24:26
Why can't they show us the whole thing all the way in?
24:29
Because it's all fake. You said Dome.
24:33
Is that what is above us? I don't know.
24:37
But again, you know, I think that the we are contained.
24:41
I think that we are contained. So you're breathing air right
24:46
now, right? Of course, right.
24:48
And as we talked about, air has to be contained, right?
24:53
You can't bring me 5 lbs of air or helium or hydrogen without a
24:57
container. And if we, if we had a box of
25:00
air says I got a lucite box, I seal it up and then I suck all
25:04
the air out of the room. I have a box of air inside a
25:07
vacuum. I put a hole in the top, bottom
25:10
or side violently, that air is going to equalise into the room,
25:14
right? Absolutely, absolutely.
25:18
And when I'm hearing something the the air, the air will
25:29
violently seek equilibrium. But people will say, well,
25:34
gravity's holding it down to the Earth, gravity's holding the air
25:37
down. Well, I can disprove that
25:39
because was supposedly our high pressure atmosphere is adjacent
25:44
to a 17 Tor vacuum, which is an ultimate vacuum, right?
25:50
We can't even create a vacuum that's strong here on Earth
25:53
because you know that. But NASA has a vacuum chamber.
25:57
The walls are like 10 feet thick of concrete and iron and they
26:01
can't even get it to that, to a, to a full vacuum because it'll
26:04
collapse. It'll collapse on itself, right?
26:07
So I can take a straw, put it in my mouth, point it downwards
26:10
towards gravity and I could pull air and liquid up and away with
26:14
the tiny, tiny low pressure system of my mouth.
26:19
That's that, that disproves gravity holding air down.
26:23
So there has to be some sort of containment.
26:25
Is it a glass Dome? Is it a energetic Dome?
26:28
The way I look at it is there's different levels of our
26:35
existence. There's there's heavens above,
26:38
there's heavens above. And they're they're lighter
26:41
densities. We are living on this electric
26:44
plane, if you will let me show you.
26:48
We're living in, in this toroid on oops, that's not what I
26:51
wanted on this, on this plane of inertia.
26:56
That looks something like this, in my opinion.
26:58
Where the heck did it go? There it is.
27:01
It looks like something like this in my opinion.
27:03
Whoops. Why isn't that showing?
27:04
Sorry, there we go. So we live here.
27:10
This is the most dense, right? The luminaries are all up here
27:14
in the heavens above, and there's different layers of
27:16
density above us. Could be an energetic layer to
27:20
us. At this 3D dense level that we
27:24
are, it could seem solid like a bug landing on top of the water.
27:29
The surface tension seems solid to that bug.
27:31
But to us, you know, we can just go right through that surface
27:35
tension. So it might be solid to us.
27:38
Maybe it's maybe it's just energetic.
27:40
I couldn't tell you because I haven't been there.
27:41
I haven't touched it. There's lots of speculation in
27:44
my app on the and the frequently asked questions page about
27:49
Antarctica. If you go to the Antarctica
27:52
section right here, there's stuff about sky ice, which is
27:56
very, very interesting topic where people, the scientists in
28:00
Antarctica were experimenting on this blue ice, sky blue ice.
28:07
And it's so cold that they can't even transport it off Antarctica
28:10
because it disappears. It doesn't melt.
28:12
It's kind of like dry ice that goes from a solid to a gas.
28:14
But this go, this just shrinks and shrinks and shrinks until
28:17
it's gone. And it's lighter.
28:19
Yeah. And it's light.
28:20
You you look at the block and you pick it up, you're like,
28:22
whoa, it's way lighter than you would think.
28:25
They say it's frozen oxygen. I don't know.
28:27
Again, I haven't been there, but there's all sorts of interesting
28:30
information about it if you look into it.
28:33
OK, So what if I look up at night?
28:36
What am I looking at then? Great question.
28:41
So I can't tell you what you're looking at, but I can tell you
28:43
what you're not looking at. We'll get into that in a second.
28:45
So stars are, you know, our consumer optics have outgrown
28:50
their lives, right? When you look up at the stars,
28:54
where where are you located in in the States?
28:56
No, I'm in South Africa. Oh, you're in South Africa, so
28:59
when you look up, I don't know the stars that you see there.
29:02
But when you look up, there's all different stars here.
29:05
We have one here called Arcturus that we can see in the north.
29:08
And I'll talk about why you see different stars in a second.
29:11
Does that look like a burning ball of gas hundreds of
29:13
trillions of miles away? Right.
29:16
If people understood the distances that they want to tell
29:19
us that these stars are, it is absolutely, absolutely insane.
29:26
Here's 1. So let's talk about what a star
29:29
is. The closest star to Earth,
29:31
according to NASA, is. I forget the name of it but it's
29:34
4 1/2. Light year Proxima Centuria I
29:38
think. OK, it's 4 1/2 light years away,
29:41
right? 4 1/2 light years.
29:42
That's the light distance. Light takes 4 1/2 years to get
29:45
from that Stardust. 4 1/2 years at at 1100 and 86,000 miles a
29:49
second or whatever they say the speed of light is, right times 4
29:52
1/2 years. That's 25 trillion miles, right?
29:58
The closest *25 trillion miles first.
30:02
Do you know how long how big a trip 1 trillion is?
30:06
Like how long is 1 trillion seconds?
30:07
Did I ask you this last time? How long?
30:10
How long do you think 1 trillion seconds?
30:12
I don't know. If you guess it within five
30:13
days, I'll give you a Bitcoin. I don't know.
30:19
I. Can't guess that it's too big.
30:21
It's 31,000 years. OK, just let that sink in. 1
30:25
trillion seconds is 31,000 years.
30:31
So if you and I got in a spaceship and we're going to
30:32
that closest star, Elon gives us a rocket.
30:34
It goes a mile per second faster than anyone's ever gone.
30:37
We've travelling for 31,000 years.
30:40
We got to do that 24 more times before we get there.
30:45
But you know what? Elon's a good buddy of mine and
30:48
he's going to give me the rocket goes 100,000 miles an hour,
30:52
right? Awesome.
30:53
It's only going to take us 28,000 years to get there,
30:56
right? So when you start looking at the
30:58
distances they tell us things are, it doesn't make any sense.
31:03
Let's talk about the sun for a second.
31:05
The sun is 860,000 miles wide. So if you compared that to the
31:09
Earth, the sun would be a yoga ball and the Earth would be a
31:13
BB. Sound about right?
31:15
Yeah, I think so. OK, so if you were standing out
31:18
at noon and we brought the sun to one mile over your head,
31:22
you'd be standing on that BB with the yoga ball a millimetre
31:25
over your head, and you look up the entire sky would be the sun,
31:29
correct? Just for correct.
31:32
So we move it 93,000,000 miles away, or 8 light minutes, which
31:36
is 93,000,000 miles. It's now the size of a coin held
31:39
at arm's length, the same size that we see it.
31:41
You with me? Yes.
31:43
So it reduced in size that much? If we doubled the distance, do
31:48
you know how much smaller it would be?
31:49
The answer is half the height, half the width, which would be
31:52
1/4 of the size. So at double the sun's distance,
31:56
it's about the size of a pencil eraser held at arm's length.
31:59
If we doubled it again to four times, it would now be the size
32:03
of a star, pretty much. It's getting pretty small.
32:06
If we doubled it again to 8 times, it would be probably too
32:14
small to see because your eye couldn't resolve it.
32:16
So 88 times the distance times 8 light minutes, 8 * 864, we'll
32:22
call that. At a light hour, we probably
32:25
couldn't see the sun. But let's give the globe the
32:27
benefit of the doubt. Let's make it 24 light hours
32:31
away, 24 times farther. Now we can prove that the
32:35
angular size is far too small for the human eye to see, let
32:39
alone the brightness issue, which we don't even have to get
32:41
into because this debunks space. So at one light day away, we
32:48
couldn't see the sun. Well, they tell us here in the
32:51
north we can see the North Star with our naked eye, and there's
32:54
plenty of other stars that you guys you can see at distances
32:57
that'll make it even worse, worse.
32:58
But we can see with our naked eye and they tell us it's 46
33:02
times bigger than the sun. Cool.
33:04
So if I made it 46 light days away, we couldn't see it, right?
33:07
Size and variance, right? If I, if I they, they tell us
33:11
the sun is 400 times bigger than the moon and 400 times farther.
33:14
That's why they look like they're the same size.
33:16
Or maybe they're just the same size.
33:18
So if we make Polaris 46 light days away, we couldn't see it.
33:23
That's for that's not even 2 light months away.
33:25
We could not see it. It would be too small.
33:28
There's no argument. That's not a theory.
33:30
It's just a fact. But they tell us it's 433 light
33:34
years away. That's a little bit more than
33:36
two light months away. So I've falsified what they're
33:41
telling us about the stars. Our consumer optics are
33:47
completely showing us something that's not the case.
33:52
But Dave isn't isn't part of the official argument that you're
33:58
not seeing that light immediately.
34:00
You're seeing the light that existed thousands of years ago.
34:04
It took that long to arrive. Yeah, that that's what they want
34:08
to tell us, right? But as light, think about this
34:11
as light goes. You hold a flashlight right up
34:14
to your eyes. It's super bright.
34:15
Pull away. It's not that bright anymore
34:16
because the light is spreading out.
34:19
As that light spreads out, you only have the same number of
34:21
photons that left. If that's if that's the case and
34:24
that light is spreading out, getting thinner and thinner and
34:26
thinner. The analogy I give is take a
34:28
balloon and it's got like just a little air and it's not
34:31
stretched out. The rubber is the light.
34:33
You blow it up to a foot wide. It's now much thinner.
34:37
Blow it up to 10 feet wide. That rubber is getting super,
34:40
super thin. Blow it up to 100 feet wide.
34:42
Can you even see the rubber anymore?
34:44
Right, that's the light, the lights spreading out.
34:46
So the inverse square law tells us that every time you half the
34:49
distance to a light, it's 1/4 of the brightness.
34:55
Well that if you do the math on it, it's ridiculous.
34:57
Just the the math with we see the moon at let's say 1 lumen,
35:01
right? If we went to the moon, by the
35:03
time they got to 100 miles on the moon, the moon would appear
35:05
brighter than we see the sun from Earth because of the
35:08
inverse square law. Here's the problem with where
35:11
I'm going with this. Most people are just tuning out
35:14
at this point. They can't handle this amount of
35:16
thinking because they were never taught to think these things
35:19
through. And the way our mind works, germ
35:23
is everything I'm telling you. You're instantly in a, in a
35:26
microsecond, accessing everything that you were ever
35:31
told that references this and making an opinion.
35:34
Make an opinion. And the stuff that you were
35:36
told, the stuff that gets stored in your subconscious, it gets
35:40
stored as true or false. The problem is when it's taught
35:43
by a teacher under the age of seven, it's stored as true.
35:47
It's started as undeniably true. Did you know, Jerome, that I
35:50
used to be the president of the United States?
35:56
So in 5 minutes, I'm going to ask you, do you know any of the
36:00
presidents, United States? And you're going to be like,
36:03
yeah, I could probably name a dozen or five of them, whatever.
36:06
You could name a few. And David Weiss is definitely
36:08
not one of them. And that's all going to happen
36:10
in a microsecond in your head. So you remembered what I said,
36:14
but you stored it as false information.
36:19
OK, the heliocentric system and all of the nonsense with it,
36:25
they no one that none of you when I say you all of us that
36:30
you know believe into it never verified is stored as truthful
36:33
information because it was taught to us by teachers.
36:35
It was in the textbooks. Why would they lie right?
36:38
So all of that is stored and all of the foundation of our, our,
36:44
the way we see the world and the way we figure things out.
36:47
We're using false information stored as real, as true to
36:52
create our reality. And it's just false.
36:56
Everything is false, right? The the head of the CIA said in
37:00
the 1960s. He says once everything the
37:02
American people believe is false, I will know our job is
37:07
been complete, You know, and decades ago when I heard that, I
37:11
was like, not everything it is. It is practically everything.
37:15
It's incredible how fake this world is.
37:18
Conversation I was having recently with some people is the
37:22
moon and a is there an example anywhere on earth of a rock that
37:30
can shine with that much brightness and give off a
37:34
shadow? And as far as I can tell there
37:37
isn't. What is the Moon?
37:41
Yeah, What is the moon again? That's that's my friend Zack
37:45
Zambala wrote two children's books, What is the Sun and What
37:48
is the Moon? And the The thing is, we don't
37:51
know. I think the moon has to do with
37:54
delivering souls to this realm. You know, it's tied to women's
37:59
menstrual cycles. It you know, when the moon goes
38:01
into the new moon phase and nobody has ever seen it from
38:05
anywhere, from aeroplane, from the fake station, from from the
38:09
Earth infrared, no one has ever seen it.
38:12
That's impossible during a total solar eclipse where people say,
38:16
well, the the new moon is right next to the sun, so it's too
38:18
bright. Well, during a total solar
38:20
eclipse, it's blocking the whole sun, the earth shine, right?
38:24
Because we have moonshine that we can read by that'll cast our
38:27
shadow on the ground. The earthshine should light up
38:29
the moon, and it never does. No one has ever seen the moon
38:33
during an eclipse. So what is the moon?
38:37
That's a great question. You know, is it spherical?
38:40
I kind of think it is, but you can't prove that it is.
38:44
You know, I'm standing right next to this rock.
38:46
We were talking about the inverse square law of light.
38:49
Well, this rock should be so bright.
38:51
I'm standing right next to it. The sun is shining on it, right?
38:55
It should be brighter than this rock because I'm 237,000 miles
38:59
away from this rock. So this one should be thousands
39:04
of times brighter than this one. This is arguably more reflective
39:09
too, from what we've seen with the dusty dirty moon, right?
39:13
So the moon is a light in the sky.
39:17
It's a light. It behaves like a light.
39:19
It looks like a light. OK, So what do you make of this
39:25
Artemis NASA rocket launch that's about to happen?
39:30
We're just all speculating on what they're going to do.
39:33
Are they going to cancel it? Are they going to?
39:36
Is it going to be AI? Is it just, what nonsense?
39:40
Are they going to absolutely show us it's complete?
39:43
Yeah. Well, let me, let me, let me,
39:44
let me rephrase my question. All the rocket launchers
39:47
including SpaceX, etcetera, What I mean, what's going on there?
39:49
Where are those rockets going? Yeah, well, if you, if you
39:55
carefully look at any, any rocket launch, they all go right
39:59
into the into the ocean. So let me just pull this up.
40:02
I'll say rocket launch. Give me a second.
40:07
There we go. So they all go up and they curve
40:10
over and they crash out into here in America, into the
40:13
Bermuda Triangle. People say, what about the other
40:16
space agencies? You know, JAXA and RAXA and all
40:19
these other ones. Guess what?
40:21
They all train in Florida. Did you know that at NASA's
40:24
facility? All the other space agencies
40:26
train at a NASA facility in Florida.
40:30
Think they're getting their marching orders right.
40:32
Space agencies are here to keep us in our heliocentric mental
40:37
prison. So they go up and they crash
40:40
down. And then, you know, we could, we
40:42
could spend a lot of time looking, just looking at the
40:45
fakery. Verner Ron Braun, who runs NASA
40:48
in 1957 wrote a book called Project Mars about a a bunch of
40:53
people that go to populate Mars and the guy that LED the group
40:58
in the book. Elon Yeah.
41:00
And here's Elon going to Mars, right?
41:02
It's so stupid. Yeah, just a correction, Von
41:06
Braun, I don't think he ran NASA.
41:08
I think he was just the head of one one of the divisions.
41:11
OK, whatever he he was, he was put up high up in NASA.
41:14
All right. Thanks for the correction.
41:16
Yeah, let's let's just look at a couple space XI mean, I mean, if
41:25
it depends on what you with which ones you look at.
41:27
I mean, they they have all of their sex symbolism in these
41:31
rockets. You know, here is here is this
41:36
thing is going up. This is Elon's testing his Mars
41:39
rocket. Does this thing look like it's
41:40
moving? Like where is it going?
41:43
Look at the smoke coming off of it.
41:45
This thing is going up. Look at the smoke.
41:47
It's is that just floating in there?
41:49
Is it even in the sky is even real?
41:52
Like what the heck is this? Let's jump forward a little bit
41:56
here. It is falling down right some.
41:59
It's falling down right. It is falling.
42:00
It's got some smoke coming off of it and it's going to land
42:03
upright. It's going to land upright
42:06
somehow. But people did see that though,
42:09
in real life, Dave. I mean, they who?
42:13
Who saw it? Well, I don't know anyone
42:14
personally but but apparently people could go and watch.
42:17
From a distance now, so there's all sorts of trickery you can
42:21
watch from a distance. They could be shooting up
42:23
something much smaller. They go up, they curve over and
42:26
you don't get to see where it goes.
42:27
And then they then you look on TV and you're watching it go
42:29
into space, right? If you watch these rocket
42:32
landings, they always land out in the middle of the ocean on a
42:36
drone ship where with no people on them.
42:41
And then the IT always cuts out. This is a cartoon from the 60s
42:45
or 70s or a movie right of the of the landing.
42:48
And this is Elon landing and always, always cut, cut just
42:52
before it lands. It's this landed in the middle
42:55
of the ocean with these waves and winds.
42:57
This is like some serious conditions out there.
42:59
And this thing came out of space and landed on a little raft.
43:02
You can believe that upright nobody there.
43:07
By extension, what is the ISS? Israel.
43:13
Doesn't exist. Yeah, I don't, I don't believe
43:16
that there is a craft up there. Well, first space doesn't exist.
43:21
Space, space doesn't exist. The stuff that they show us from
43:26
people up there, it's all done in the Hollywood studio.
43:28
They've even been caught by saying, you know where they
43:31
were. They're like, well, we're right
43:32
here in Texas. You're like, wait a minute,
43:34
you're in Texas. You're moving 17,000 miles an
43:37
hour. How do you know you're in Texas?
43:38
I've seen some of those videos with the the hair and all that
43:41
nonsense. It just doesn't look right.
43:43
It does mean it doesn't look right or it looks absolutely
43:47
ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
43:50
So let's. But now I mean, sorry, go on,
43:53
Dave. Go ahead.
43:54
No, it's going to just show you. They'll talk about this woman
43:58
here with her hair. You know, it's like, first,
44:02
would you let somebody with long hair go live up on a space
44:05
station? Look what they do for military
44:07
pilots. They shave their heads.
44:08
I mean, this stuff that's going to be floating.
44:10
People are going to be gagging on it.
44:11
Then someone's going to vomit. And then there's going to how do
44:14
you even clean that up in space? It's all, it's all just
44:19
trickery. These people, why do they have
44:22
belts in space? Are their pants going to fall
44:24
down? You've obviously been thrown
44:31
number of questions that I've asked you, but like it sounds
44:33
obvious, but what about all the satellites that that supposedly
44:37
orbit? I love the satellite question,
44:40
thanks for asking. So satellites though.
44:47
Have you ever looked up and seen a satellite?
44:49
I mean, I've seen things going across the sky at night.
44:53
That they're going too fast and so we're like those are
44:55
satellites used to be my favourite thing to do when I
44:57
when I'd go down the the Caribbean, I'd layout at night
45:00
and not like there's a satellite I'd watch it go by so cool
45:03
right. But again, this is based on we
45:07
have people don't know the angular resolution limits of
45:11
their eyes. So satellites are crashing all
45:15
over the Earth. Although this is this is this is
45:18
NASA doing a they're recovering a satellite to make a repair on
45:22
it. I mean, this is this is just
45:24
1960s nonsense cartoon, but I'm looking for I'm looking Oh yeah.
45:31
So NASA, NASA largest consumer of helium in the world launches
45:37
admits that they launched these satellites on balloons right up
45:41
to 8000 lbs. They stay up there for years and
45:47
that's interesting. And there's 10s of thousands of
45:49
them up there. So that doesn't mean that
45:51
there's not satellites, but they that's that's what any saddled
45:55
any, any satellites that we know of are hanging on balloons.
45:59
But what about Starlink? This is this is the one that
46:01
gets everybody. So a bunch of years ago when
46:04
Starlink started going up, people started seeing these
46:06
lines go across the sky. I saw it and also.
46:09
Yeah, I also saw it. Yeah, Yeah, I you also saw it,
46:13
right? So, OK, I'm just trying to make
46:19
sure I have the right graphic here.
46:20
So I saw it. Well, a Starlink satellite is
46:24
about the size of a child's school desk, and it's 350 miles
46:30
up, 3, 150 miles up. So you ever stand next to a 747?
46:39
It's huge, big plane huge, right.
46:41
There's a 747 in there. And hard to see in the picture
46:45
but you can see the shape of the aeroplane.
46:47
But can you make out the engines?
46:49
No. Probably can't, right?
46:51
That's 7 miles up, 7 can't make out the engines, right?
46:57
You can probably fit a dozen Starlink satellites inside this
46:59
engine, right? So you can't see it.
47:02
If you doubled it to 14 miles up, could you even see the
47:05
aeroplane? The answer is no, you couldn't.
47:08
350 miles up. That's when it's directly above
47:11
you. When it's over there, it's
47:14
farther, could be twice as far, and we see those going all the
47:17
way across. What are we looking at?
47:23
This right? So great question.
47:27
Did you know that that Elon bought, I hope I got this right.
47:33
I don't have the graphic in front of me.
47:35
He bought, I think his brother or somebody's biggest drone
47:39
company in the world. I think that they're drones.
47:43
I think they're just flying drones up there to make us see
47:45
these things. Now, you haven't seen that
47:48
string of satellites in a long time, right?
47:50
You saw it a couple years ago, I'm guessing?
47:52
Yeah, it was. It was years ago.
47:54
Yeah, so, so think about this. That's when they first started
47:57
putting them up. So there's very few of them.
48:00
Since then, they've put up 10s of thousands more.
48:04
We should be seeing these things every night.
48:06
Nobody's seeing them anymore, maybe once in a while.
48:10
So they did this to convince people.
48:12
Look, satellites are going up. I saw them myself.
48:15
There's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise, right?
48:18
So now they've, they've stopped with the, with the fooling that
48:21
we should be seeing multiple strings every night everywhere,
48:25
no matter where you are with the number that are up there.
48:27
So we're not seeing them. The second thing is we couldn't
48:30
see them. We falsified the fact that, you
48:33
know, whatever we're seeing is closer and smaller.
48:39
You've seen, you know, what they can do with drones making
48:41
Dragons in the sky. You think they can make a line
48:44
or a line of white lights going across the sky?
48:47
That's like the simplest, simplest thing ever.
48:49
And people are like, well, how does it go for that long?
48:52
Drones can't fly that long. OK, well, we don't know what
48:54
battery technology they have, but you know, they can launch
48:57
below. They can launch that little
48:58
satellites from aeroplanes, from the back of cargo aeroplanes.
49:02
They can. They can.
49:03
And you'll watch those things. One light will blink out and
49:06
then another light will come on and they change a little bit
49:11
right. So, but here's here's the
49:13
question. What about Starlink surface,
49:17
satellite surface that actually works right.
49:20
So the answer is I'm just trying to all right, I found it.
49:27
So when I'm when I'm on an aeroplane and I have Internet
49:31
connections, it's quite amazing. And they keep reminding me that
49:35
I'm connecting with satellites. Yes.
49:40
Yeah, so there it used to be, I connected with cell towers, but
49:45
now I'm connecting with satellites.
49:47
So here's an aeroplane, here's some, some cell towers on the
49:52
ground. And this is what used to happen.
49:55
We just, you just Daisy change just like driving down the road,
49:58
going from tower to tower to tower.
49:59
You're, you're no problem, right?
50:01
But this message pops up on my on my phone.
50:04
Let ever know via satellite. This is brainwashing, right?
50:08
So now they want me to believe and I can't even make it to
50:10
scale here. So I've got the aeroplane, I've
50:13
got the satellite and I've got the cell towers.
50:16
So they want me to believe that the aeroplane is now sending my
50:19
signal to a minimum of 350 miles up where that satellite that
50:24
doesn't have a power source that's falling around the earth,
50:27
somehow keeping up with the spiral graph, you know, motions
50:30
of the earth, and it sends my signal down to the tower below
50:35
the aeroplane. Does that make any sense to you,
50:39
Jerm? I do struggle with that.
50:43
Well, you should struggle with it because it's stupid, right?
50:46
So the aeroplane sending my signal up and then this battery
50:50
less battery, less tin can falling in space vacuum is
50:55
sending it down to a cell tower. That makes no sense.
50:58
Now I asked Chat GPTI had a great, I have a great video on
51:01
it where I said, oh, by the way, the satellite, the Starlink
51:06
receivers, if you go look up what they used in the Vietnam
51:09
War, they they talked about how the troops could connect with
51:13
these AWACS, aeroplanes, and then that would transmit back to
51:16
Washington because of the curve of the Earth, of course.
51:19
And that transmitter that the troops use is the same, it's the
51:23
same equipment as the Starlink from decades ago.
51:27
So it's the same equipment. So I said, hey, ChatGPT, if we
51:33
took Starlink satellites, instead of putting them in the
51:36
space, we put them in the belly of an aeroplane where they had
51:40
their own power source and they could be serviced anytime the
51:43
plane land if something goes wrong.
51:46
Would that work? And it said that would work
51:47
really well. The only problem is if there's a
51:50
big storm and they divert aeroplanes around the storm,
51:53
there would be no service in that area.
51:55
And So what if they put some military like AWACS, aeroplanes
51:58
above those storms that had the equipment on it.
52:01
And it said that would be a more robust, better working system
52:05
than the current Starling system.
52:07
It would certainly be cheaper and it would work better.
52:12
I can, I contend that that's what they're doing.
52:15
Last thing is that we have there's a, a guy that that lives
52:21
on an island in the South Pacific somewhere and he
52:24
recently just, you know, last few years whatever got self got
52:28
Internet service on his little island because he has Starlink
52:31
and he's the guy that tracks every military flight in the
52:34
sky. He's one of those guys that just
52:36
tracks all the aeroplanes and he said any time the last aeroplane
52:40
leaves his area he loses his Starling service.
52:43
Is that just a coincidence? So every morning I get up at
52:49
around 5:30 because I've got a I've got a little kid.
52:53
And before he gets up, I make myself some coffee and I go and
52:59
sit on my balcony and I wait for the wait for it sun to rise.
53:04
Just tell me what's going on there.
53:07
Awesome, great question. Sunrises and sunsets.
53:11
That's that's a big one. And flat earthers say that the
53:16
sun always, always rises to eye level, right.
53:21
And that's actually not true. It appears to rise to eye level.
53:26
So what is the horizon? Well, there's two horizons.
53:29
There's a physical ground horizon that well, it's the
53:34
horizon we see from the ground and then there's an atmospheric
53:39
horizon. So I'm just trying to talk and
53:44
find the kind of video I. Want well, while you, while
53:46
you're doing that, I think I know what you mean.
53:47
Because if I if if I'm in an aeroplane, I'm very high up but
53:50
the horizon is still at the same level.
53:53
The horizon appears to rise at eye level.
53:55
You get to like 4045 thousand feet.
53:58
You can see the sun far, far, far beyond where you should be
54:01
able to see it. But no one's really thinking
54:02
about this. So here we have some clouds.
54:04
Let's say these clouds are just for a number of 10,000 feet.
54:08
Well, these clouds are 10,000 feet, 10,000 feet, 10,000 feet.
54:12
They're all 10,000 feet, but they appear like they're getting
54:15
closer and closer to the horizon.
54:17
They're getting compressed due to our vision, right?
54:22
So here we have a clear sky. But even on a clear sky day, the
54:30
when you look up, you're looking through this much atmosphere,
54:33
right? But when you, if you have this
54:35
much atmosphere and you're looking across, you're looking
54:38
through an infinite amount of atmosphere.
54:40
So as we look down, it gets thicker and thicker and thicker
54:43
and it becomes opaque. So this line here, what is this
54:47
line? So let's talk about that.
54:49
So here we have clouds, and we'll put another cloud farther
54:53
in the distance and another one. You can't even see it because
54:55
it's merging with this line here.
54:57
But if I zoomed in, you'd be able to see it.
55:00
So I have the sun moving away. As it does, it just moves away.
55:03
And look, it's disappearing from the bottom up, right here.
55:06
It's disappearing from the bottom up as it's just moving
55:09
beyond the cloud. You can understand that it's
55:11
disappearing from the bottom up as it moves beyond the cloud,
55:15
beyond the cloud. But here, because you can't
55:18
resolve anything, it's moving beyond the cloud again there.
55:21
So it's just gone beyond where we, you know what we think is
55:27
the horizon. So let me let me show you.
55:32
Is this the 1:00? So we have these streetlights,
55:36
they all going into the distance and they look like they're going
55:39
down. But as we zoom in, we can bring
55:41
them back up. We know that they're all at the
55:45
same level. So here's a guy looking at the
55:47
cloud. And so we do a string from his
55:49
eye to this cloud. It goes straight up.
55:52
But as that cloud moves into the distance it gets, it'll appears
55:55
to get lower and lower and lower, right?
55:59
So now we have this cloud over here.
56:01
And if he looks over at that cloud, he sees that string
56:04
paralleling right across the water level.
56:07
He that's how he sees it. That's how he perceives it.
56:11
Now, if I put a guy underneath this cloud, so this is the cloud
56:15
in the distance, he sees that line going from a high up cloud
56:19
down to his eyes. Remember this guy sees it going
56:23
straight across same line, right?
56:25
Because he's underneath that cloud that's on his horizon.
56:28
So if the sun moves away, this guy, remember this guy's
56:34
underneath the cloud. This cloud to him is on the
56:37
horizon. So as the sun goes beyond the
56:41
cloud, he can no longer see it anymore, right?
56:44
It'll disappear from the bottom up from his point of view.
56:47
But the way he really sees it is like this is sun's going away.
56:52
He, this is his horizon here. And the sun looks to be going
56:56
below it. It's just going beyond it
57:00
beyond. Let me show you just another one
57:03
to take this home, because this is this is a really, really
57:07
important one. So here we have that's not it.
57:18
Give me a second. I'll
57:29
I'll start with this one. All right, so again, St lights
57:34
going into the distance, if we if we went another mile down the
57:39
road, look, you wouldn't be able to see that light.
57:40
It'd just be gone. It'd be beyond your horizon.
57:43
This is the sun going away and it's going beyond this
57:47
atmospheric deck of opacity. This line here could be 10,000
57:51
feet above your eye level, 10,000 feet.
57:54
So if I put a truck here, these lights are going to get blocked
57:58
by the truck and we push the truck farther and farther away.
58:01
Eventually you're not going to be able to see the truck
58:03
anymore, but the lights are still going to go beyond it.
58:05
That's what the horizon is. It's the atmospheric deck.
58:08
It could be mountains, it could be, it could be whatever that
58:13
they that it just hides it. It goes beyond it.
58:17
The horizon looks like it's at your eye level, but it's really
58:21
it's really high above your eye level.
58:23
OK. What?
58:23
So, So what you saw, what you're saying then is that in the
58:27
morning when I see the sunrise, what I'm seeing is not the sun
58:32
coming from below the earth or the earth turning to, to to see
58:37
the sun, but it's the sun coming from the distance and going over
58:42
me and going past me, behind me. Is that is that right?
58:46
Cracks here. We have a real sunset here and
58:48
we have this coin on the table. The camera's slightly below the
58:50
table and that's why the coin is disappearing.
58:54
But in the distance, the horizon, your eyes are below the
58:57
horizon. The horizon that you see is the
58:59
whole atmosphere being compressed into a line that
59:02
appears to be at your eye level. But that atmosphere could be
59:04
1020 thousand feet high. The sun is just coming from
59:08
beyond it. OK, so it's.
59:10
Just coming from beyond. It So then?
59:12
So then you're saying that the sun is circling above me?
59:17
Is that right? Yes, it circles around.
59:19
I'll show show you that in a second and.
59:21
So is the moon, and so is the moon.
59:24
Yeah, absolutely. I'll show you that in a in a in
59:26
a moment. So here, so again, perspective.
59:33
You show this picture to a child and say, what do you see?
59:36
You see a guy standing on a pier fishing.
59:39
There's boat, the sun, the clouds, there's a tree on the
59:41
left there. And you kind of see the same
59:43
thing, right? Yeah.
59:46
Is the water higher or lower than the pier?
59:50
Well, it's obviously. Think about it.
59:51
In reality, it's. Obviously.
59:53
Lower, but it's higher in the picture here, right?
59:55
It's higher, but in reality it's lower.
59:57
It's just perspective, correct? All right.
1:00:01
And is the sun higher than the tree or lower than the tree?
1:00:08
It's higher than the tree because of experience.
1:00:11
But it's lower in the picture due to perspective.
1:00:14
Yes, obviously it's slower. Where's the 50 story skyscraper
1:00:17
in this picture? I don't see it.
1:00:21
You sure we're actually looking straight up at the sun?
1:00:31
In New York City, you see it. OK, well played.
1:00:35
What? I'm sorry.
1:00:36
Yeah. Well, but here, no, I'm not
1:00:37
trying to trick you. I'm trying to show you how you
1:00:39
trick yourself. We we see what we're told to
1:00:42
believe, right? So here's the sun.
1:00:45
Let's say it's noon and now it's 1:00.
1:00:47
Is the sun below the horizon or just beyond the building?
1:00:52
Yeah, it's just beyond. It's just beyond the building.
1:00:56
So the question, the question is how?
1:01:02
How could we see it again? Well, you can go up in the air
1:01:04
or you can go backwards, maybe go across the street, maybe get
1:01:06
a better angle and see the sun, right?
1:01:09
If you went a mile away, the building would be much smaller
1:01:11
and you'd definitely be able to see the sun, correct?
1:01:14
Yeah. All right, so here's a
1:01:17
perspective grid, and I'm going to throw this mountain up here.
1:01:19
Let's say it's 3000 feet up. You got the sun up here.
1:01:22
The sun's going away. Did it go below the horizon or
1:01:25
beyond the mountain? Well, obviously it went beyond,
1:01:29
yeah. Beyond the mountain.
1:01:31
But this is how we see. That's that, that's clear.
1:01:33
Everyone knows that. So if I went backwards like 25
1:01:36
miles now, that lot, that mountain still 3000 feet above
1:01:40
my eye level, I have a much better view and angle to the
1:01:43
sun. The sun goes away.
1:01:44
Did it go below the mountain or beyond it?
1:01:48
No, it went beyond it. It went beyond it, but this is
1:01:52
looking like if you're a glober, this is your earth curve it gets
1:01:56
worse now let's add the cloud deck in here so this cloud deck
1:01:59
is 1015 thousand feet in the sky.
1:02:01
The sun is above it The sun goes beyond all of these clouds and
1:02:07
it goes beyond this line now what is this line this line is
1:02:09
the top of the mountain 3000 feet.
1:02:11
It's also the 10,000 feet of the atmosphere on top of that.
1:02:15
So we're 1315 thousand feet. This line is 13 fifteen, 20,000
1:02:22
feet above his eye level. But that's not how he sees it.
1:02:25
And the sun just goes beyond it. Here's the here's a perspective
1:02:30
grid, right? Here's the guy.
1:02:32
Is that his eye level? My bad, right?
1:02:34
You got a mountain 3000 feet up. You got the sun.
1:02:37
It goes beyond the mountain, not below the mountain, beyond the
1:02:43
mountain, right. If I went backwards 25 miles,
1:02:47
the top of this mountain is still 3000 feet above his eyes.
1:02:50
But there's the sun, right? Sun goes farther away, beyond or
1:02:55
below. It went beyond again, just like
1:02:58
before, nothing changes, right? Add the cloud deck in here.
1:03:02
These clouds are ten, 15,000 feet above the mountain.
1:03:06
The sun just goes beyond, and this line here becomes the
1:03:10
atmospheric deck of opacity and the mountain thousands and
1:03:14
thousands of feet above his eye level.
1:03:16
The sun's above that, it just goes beyond it.
1:03:19
OK, bye. But if the sun is circling above
1:03:24
Flat Earth, right, shouldn't that shouldn't that vector start
1:03:29
curving? Well, we're seeing a very small
1:03:33
area of the sun. We only see the sun.
1:03:36
You know, I'm here in the United States when the sun is over
1:03:40
California, just that little bit.
1:03:42
It's setting. It's it's literally almost
1:03:45
setting for me. All right, so we only see a tiny
1:03:48
little bit. And during our summer when the
1:03:51
sun is in here over the Tropic of Cancer, I'm going to bring
1:03:55
the sun in. Hold on, Where are we?
1:03:56
We're at January, February, March, April, May, June.
1:04:04
They could there, April, May, June.
1:04:08
So in June, the sun is all the way in here.
1:04:12
The sun is all the way in here. And so I can watch it rise in
1:04:17
the morning and I can watch it. It curves around me.
1:04:21
It doesn't make a straight line in the sky because it's making a
1:04:24
bigger curve. And I have much longer days also
1:04:27
because the sun is closer to me for a longer period of time.
1:04:30
So we have much longer, longer days and longer sunsets.
1:04:34
It's when it's out here in your summer that it's lower in the
1:04:42
sky for me, just like those St lights, a street light down the
1:04:44
road, that's my winter sun. It's lower in the sky.
1:04:47
I get less heat from it because it's farther away and it circles
1:04:51
around and I see it kind of do more of a straight line because
1:04:55
it's a, I'm seeing less of a curve.
1:04:57
I'm seeing more, more of a curve here.
1:04:59
I watch the sunrise over here and it'll wrap around me.
1:05:04
So you've never measured the path of the sun in the sky, but
1:05:07
it does curve where and we see that again, the sun is, you
1:05:13
know, I think that we see what's called an apparent sun, an
1:05:17
apparent sun. Let me just show you real quick.
1:05:21
What, what they, what I call that.
1:05:25
So the sun that we see, I remember the sun that we see in
1:05:32
the sky is in an apparent position.
1:05:36
What do I mean by that? So the apparent, apparent
1:05:40
position. So here we go.
1:05:42
So I divided my room into two parts with a sheet.
1:05:46
I got a light 10 feet on the other side and I have this
1:05:50
apparent sun. Now my wife's over here on to
1:05:52
the left of me and I said, hey, where do you see the sun on the
1:05:55
sheet? So from her point of view, let
1:05:58
me go back over there. She sees it right there.
1:06:00
So if I put a little X on the sheet with a sharpie, there
1:06:03
would be an X on the sheet over there.
1:06:04
She sees the sun over there, while I see it there.
1:06:07
We're seeing it in two different positions.
1:06:11
So everyone sees the sun in a position relative to themselves.
1:06:14
That's a much longer podcast. There's tonnes of videos on my
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1:06:23
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1:06:27
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1:10:15
people and you just can scroll and, you know, use the message
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button And people have gotten married and have had children
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because of this app. So again, like minded, awake,
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aware people. It's actually quite fun.
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All right, David Weiss. Thank you for joining me in the
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trenches. I appreciate it.
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Thanks for having me on and and let's do it again.