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Ron Verb - July 7th - The Full Show · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: WKBN. When I was off, I got to see if
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  Speaker 1: hopefully all my equipment's functioning properly. If not, we've got
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  Speaker 1: a backup plan here. I want to play to you,
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  Speaker 1: and I want you to listen to this, because I
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  Speaker 1: want you to listen to Ron DeSantis, and he's talking,
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  Speaker 1: and Ron DeSantis is a governor of Florida, and I
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  Speaker 1: want you to listen to Ron DeSantis as a governor
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  Speaker 1: of Florida, and he's talking about signing these property tax bills.
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  Speaker 1: But I want you to listen to, and this is
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  Speaker 1: going to take about 20 minutes of your time, But
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  Speaker 1: I want you to listen to an intelligent governor and
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  Speaker 1: his philosophy on how he deals with your money and taxes.
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  Speaker 1: So what I'm going to ask you to do is
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  Speaker 1: something very strange here on talk radio. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you to simply pay attention. All of you to
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  Speaker 1: pay attention. And I mean pay attention. Wherever you are,
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  Speaker 1: just pause for a second. If this works properly for me,
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  Speaker 1: there's always the but. And I want you to listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. Now, I realize this is about Florida, not
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  Speaker 1: our community, but it's the philosophy and the thought process
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  Speaker 1: that I want you to hear that so impresses me,
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  Speaker 1: all right? So I want you to listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see if we're going to function here. Let's
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  Speaker 1: try this. Oh, excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hello.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to be back in Bradenton.
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  Speaker 4: We've got a number of folks with us here today,
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  Speaker 4: including our chief financial officer, Blaise Angolia. We have City
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  Speaker 4: of Mayor, City of Bradenton Mayor Gene Brown, Vice Mayor
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  Speaker 4: Jane Kocher, Representative Yvette Benaroche, Senator Joe Gruters, Manatee Sheriff
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  Speaker 4: Rick Wells, County Commissioner.
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  Speaker 3: Amanda Bauer, and a lot of other folks. And so
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  Speaker 3: I want to thank you all.
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  Speaker 1: For being here. We're going to.
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  Speaker 4: Sign two pieces of legislation which involve protecting taxpayers. particularly
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  Speaker 4: against local government taxes, property taxes and others, and also
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  Speaker 4: ensuring transparency in the spending process. Now, this has been
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  Speaker 4: an issue that I've discussed from time to time. I
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  Speaker 4: know Blaise Angolia does it more than just time to
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  Speaker 4: time as part of his his duties and doing it.
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  Speaker 4: But I think anytime, look, we look at how can
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  Speaker 4: we be helpful to the people that we represent? And
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  Speaker 4: when you have the kind of COVID era that's really continued,
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  Speaker 4: inflation wave, where things have gotten more expensive, particularly things
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  Speaker 4: like groceries, all these other things, where can we, at
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  Speaker 4: the state level, make the most impact? Where is government
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  Speaker 4: impinging on the American dream for people the most. And
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  Speaker 4: the state of Florida, at the state level, we have
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  Speaker 4: the lowest or certainly among the lowest tax burdens anywhere
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  Speaker 4: in the country. That's just a fact. No income tax.
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  Speaker 4: We've eliminated some taxes since I've been here. It just
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  Speaker 4: is what it is. A lot of our burden is
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  Speaker 4: shared by non-Florida residents, people that snowboard here, tourists, all
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  Speaker 4: these other things.
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  Speaker 3: So that's good. But what I think people.
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  Speaker 4: Have been struggling with is the costs associated with homeownership,
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  Speaker 4: particularly with property taxes. Now, we've also done a lot
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  Speaker 4: of stuff to address the Florida's insurance market, and they
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  Speaker 4: just came out. Citizens got reinsurance 30% lower than last year.
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  Speaker 4: Before the reforms, reinsurance was going up tremendously. That's going
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  Speaker 4: to impact what consumers are charged, and citizens insurance actually
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  Speaker 4: did the biggest reduction in rates in the history of
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  Speaker 4: the program. For this year, likely we'll have to do
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  Speaker 4: more reduction going forward, and we have now like 20
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  Speaker 4: companies in offering, and USAA on auto insurance just announced
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  Speaker 4: a billion dollar rebate. And so look, it's a difficult issue,
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  Speaker 4: but the reforms have pushed in the direction that we're seeing,
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  Speaker 4: and it's been pretty consistent. Some people say, oh, they
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  Speaker 4: didn't reduce mine, and then they go shop, and then
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  Speaker 4: they find they can get better. So yeah, they may
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  Speaker 4: try to renew you at the same, and that's why
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  Speaker 4: you shop likely you're going to be able to save.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly on the auto, we've seen that very, very significant.
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  Speaker 4: So we've done a lot. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: heavy lifting in the legislature, but at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, it is a private market. It's not something we,
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  Speaker 4: there's things that go into it that the government just
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  Speaker 4: can't control. Certainly when inflation goes up, it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be more expensive.
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  Speaker 3: There's a whole host of things.
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  Speaker 4: We couldn't help that we had six major hurricanes in
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  Speaker 4: seven years. That's just a fact. That makes things more challenging. Taxes, though,
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  Speaker 4: is just purely a government function. It's not driven by
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  Speaker 4: the private sector. It's not driven by circumstances. The people
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  Speaker 4: you elect, are they taxing you? Our state constitution, what
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  Speaker 4: does it allow? How much protection do you get? These
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  Speaker 4: are decisions we, the people, are able to make. And
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  Speaker 4: so we have looked to see as from 2019 till
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  Speaker 4: the present, local government property tax revenue has basically doubled.
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  Speaker 4: It was a little over $ 30 billion in 2019, and
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  Speaker 4: now it's about $ 60 billion. Maybe not uniform throughout the state,
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  Speaker 4: but everywhere has gone up pretty dramatically.
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  Speaker 3: That's just a fact.
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  Speaker 4: And the question is, okay, has that been necessary? Or
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  Speaker 4: should the taxpayers have been benefiting along the way? And
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  Speaker 4: so in the process, there's different things that are done
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  Speaker 4: with highlighting local spending. I mean, look, there's some instances
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  Speaker 4: that are really inexplicable.
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  Speaker 3: And that's really with everything.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, for example, the school district of Broward County
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  Speaker 4: down in Southeast Florida, their budget was, I think eight
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  Speaker 4: years ago, $ 2.
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  Speaker 5: 5 billion.
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  Speaker 4: They've lost 50,000 students since then, and their budget is
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  Speaker 4: now 5 billion.
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  Speaker 3: Now, where is that money?
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  Speaker 4: That is funding the system for the system's sake. That
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  Speaker 4: is not doing things to benefit the students. And so
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  Speaker 4: you see different examples that Blaze has found over the years.
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  Speaker 4: And so all that being said, that's something that can
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  Speaker 4: be meaningful for people to do. And I'll go into
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  Speaker 4: kind of my view on the whole property tax thing
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  Speaker 4: and I think where we need to go from here
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  Speaker 4: and kind of the legislature.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what they did was good, but I think
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  Speaker 3: we need to do more. But Steve said, well, what
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  Speaker 3: do you, you get up there, you guys in Tallahassee
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  Speaker 3: want to tell people, you know, what to do, a
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  Speaker 3: local government all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think in some respects in a vacuum,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's a valid concern. But I can tell
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  Speaker 4: you this, I have the budget for next fiscal year,
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  Speaker 4: which starts July 1st on my desk. I'm going through
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  Speaker 4: you know, proving, vetoing some stuff, whatever. That will be
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  Speaker 4: done within the next week. And that, when I finish
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  Speaker 4: all that, it will represent the fourth straight year where
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  Speaker 4: the state of Florida has reduced the amount it's spending
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  Speaker 4: at the state level. Let me say that again.
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  Speaker 1: Think about that. They've reduced spending four years in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this, folks. Stay in control. I just want
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  Speaker 1: you to listen to this as we go along. This
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  Speaker 1: is Governor DeSantis. I want you to hear the philosophy
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  Speaker 1: of what he's talking about, what is taking place in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: all right?
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  Speaker 4: The budget four years ago was more than the budget
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  Speaker 4: three years ago. The budget three years ago was more
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  Speaker 4: than the budget two years ago, and the budget in
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  Speaker 4: current year is less than the budget, or I guess
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  Speaker 4: last year's budget that we signed. is going to be,
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  Speaker 4: this year's budget is going to be less than that.
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  Speaker 4: And so it can be done. And that's with population growth.
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  Speaker 4: That's with inflation. And some of the things, we had
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  Speaker 4: to put in more money for some of these projects too.
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  Speaker 3: Don't act like that we were immune for that.
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  Speaker 4: So you've had all those and yet, and that's not
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  Speaker 4: even adjusting for inflation. When I say the budget's lower today,
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  Speaker 4: Next fiscal year will be lower than current fiscal year,
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  Speaker 4: current less than last, less than the year before that.
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  Speaker 4: That's nominal dollars. That's not inflation-adjusted dollars. Obviously, inflation-adjusted would
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  Speaker 4: be dramatically less. Population-adjusted would be dramatically less. So we've
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  Speaker 4: done that and have had a very, very stable budget.
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  Speaker 3: For the last four years.
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  Speaker 4: And some of that was the legislature, I think, making
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  Speaker 4: some thoughtful choices. Some, quite frankly, was me having to
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  Speaker 4: exercise the line item veto power. But that's just the way.
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  Speaker 4: And look at what's happened with the state's debt. If
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  Speaker 4: you take all the state's debt in the history of
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  Speaker 4: the state of Florida from statehood till the present, Just
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  Speaker 4: since I've been governor, we've paid off 51% of the
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  Speaker 4: state's debt, paid it down, it's done. And we now
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  Speaker 4: have the lowest per capita debt of any state in
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  Speaker 4: the country. Meanwhile, we've done some really big things. We've
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  Speaker 4: done the largest environmental restoration in the history of the
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  Speaker 4: United States of America with the Florida Everglades. And I now,
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  Speaker 4: because Biden was terrible on this, we now under the
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  Speaker 4: Trump administration have been delegated authority to do some of
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  Speaker 4: the federal share of the projects, and they're funding that,
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  Speaker 4: and we do it a lot quicker.
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  Speaker 3: That's just the way we roll.
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  Speaker 4: So we're doing that, and that's something that's been, but
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  Speaker 4: we've put billions and billions of dollars into that. It's actually,
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  Speaker 4: it's gotten to the point, we've done the infrastructure, we've
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  Speaker 4: improved the water flow, that next year, three years from now, five,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna spend less on that than what I've had
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  Speaker 4: to do because we had to really get where we
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  Speaker 4: were going.
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  Speaker 3: So that's been major. We've done infrastructure.
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  Speaker 4: We flushed another five, to $ 8 billion into moving Florida forward.
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  Speaker 4: You've got these projects that were in the queue to
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  Speaker 4: start 10 years from now when traffic is bad now,
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  Speaker 4: and we've accelerated. You know, you see You know, some
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  Speaker 4: of you actually in Manatee may experience I-4 going into Orlando.
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  Speaker 4: I know the people that live in, like, Polk and
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  Speaker 4: Hillsboro and some of those. Just the temporary lane we
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  Speaker 4: did very quickly there has been a huge cut in
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  Speaker 4: traffic time there. Once the whole thing is done, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to save. And that's actually meaningful for people's lives.
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  Speaker 4: So we've never had an investment so dramatic in the
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  Speaker 4: history of the state.
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  Speaker 3: We did that. Education.
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  Speaker 4: We have the we've continued to have and look I'm
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  Speaker 4: not one that says you know if you spend more
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna get better results because some of the worst
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  Speaker 4: schools in the country have like $ 40, 000 per student like
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  Speaker 4: Washington DC and some of these other ones so it's
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  Speaker 4: not just about that but even as we've done universal
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  Speaker 4: school choice and The amount of money that's gone to
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  Speaker 4: school districts has increased, and we've created, under my tenure,
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  Speaker 4: a special provision of the budget where money that's sent
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  Speaker 4: to school districts can only be used for teacher salary increases.
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  Speaker 4: The budget I'm going to sign soon has, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's like $ 1. 55 billion, which is more than has ever
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  Speaker 4: been done, but $ 200 million of that is targeting people
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  Speaker 4: that have 10 years or more experience because we did
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  Speaker 4: a lot to try to get the minimum up.
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  Speaker 3: Because people didn't want to be teachers.
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  Speaker 4: They had other opportunities, so we're trying to make that
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  Speaker 4: more attractive for college graduates. But regardless, that's a massive investment.
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  Speaker 4: So we're doing big things, but doing it within the
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  Speaker 4: context of a budget.
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  Speaker 3: That's actually declining.
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  Speaker 4: And so when we're sitting here talking about standing up
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  Speaker 4: for taxpayers at the local level, making sure spending is transparent,
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  Speaker 4: making sure spending's not runaway, making sure people aren't being
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  Speaker 4: taxed the way they have been, we have credibility in
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  Speaker 4: doing that because our budget has been very, very stable, very,
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  Speaker 4: very modest.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. You see this.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff in New York City, you know, just electing people
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  Speaker 4: that even five years ago, I think, would have been
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  Speaker 4: thought that that would have been impossible to do. People
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  Speaker 4: that are celebrating terrorism. people that really reject the foundations
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  Speaker 4: of this country, which we're now celebrating 250. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a really, really dangerous trend over there in
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  Speaker 4: that party. But the reality is, look at how they're governed.
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  Speaker 4: The state of New York has 4 million fewer residents
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  Speaker 4: than the state of Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Our budget's about $ 117 billion.
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  Speaker 4: Their budget's $ 268 billion.
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  Speaker 3: Where is that money going?
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  Speaker 4: So these are choices that we have to make as
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  Speaker 4: citizens and who we elect and what we expect. But
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  Speaker 4: we've done it right at the state level and a
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  Speaker 4: budget that I'll sign very soon will continue that trend.
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  Speaker 3: And that's something that we're very, very proud of.
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  Speaker 4: Now, we did launch for not just local government, but
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  Speaker 4: also state government, this FAFO audits, the Florida Agency for
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  Speaker 4: Fiscal Oversight, identifying things. And there have been things that
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  Speaker 4: have been identified at the state level that have been
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  Speaker 4: flagged and reforms. Sometimes that's easier to do because you
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  Speaker 4: can just change your processes if you have an agency
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  Speaker 4: or something. But also at the local level, looking at
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  Speaker 4: different things. And I know they did Manatee County. Blaze
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  Speaker 4: did that, and our folks at the state level did that.
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  Speaker 4: And they found that Manatee County, in some ways, you know,
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  Speaker 4: had some good marks compared to the rest of the state.
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  Speaker 4: County held general fund spending growth below the increase in
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  Speaker 4: ad valorem revenues, cut the millage rate multiple times, and
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  Speaker 4: embraced the form of zero-based budgeting for operating budget.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's really important.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, that's legislative speak. for you don't guarantee last year's
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  Speaker 4: level of spending plus inflation as the starting point. What
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  Speaker 4: you do is you go in and say, okay, what
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  Speaker 4: do we need to spend on? You should assume zero
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  Speaker 4: for certain things, and there should be justification why that
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  Speaker 4: should be funded again. I mean, that just goes without saying.
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  Speaker 4: In Washington, what they do, they don't do zero-based budgeting.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have a failed program that gets hundreds of.
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  Speaker 3: Billions of dollars or millions of dollars, whatever, You.
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  Speaker 4: Go the next year, they assume that same amount plus
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  Speaker 4: like 8%. So if you even want to say, okay,
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  Speaker 4: we'll do it, but only increase 3%, they say that's
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  Speaker 4: a draconian cut. It's actually a 3% increase of the
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  Speaker 4: previous year, but they'll frame that as a draconian.
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  Speaker 3: So it's hardwired to always.
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  Speaker 4: Increase spending in Washington and always grow government. When you
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  Speaker 4: do zero-based budgeting, you kind of take, you diffuse that
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  Speaker 4: hardwired And the default should be zero. And then justify
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  Speaker 4: why you're using taxpayer money to do those different things.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Just hang on. I want you to hear
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  Speaker 1: this philosophy. I want to play you some more of
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  Speaker 1: this when we get to property taxes and more. Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 1: This is important to follow. Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio
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  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. Hey, Heidi Ho, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Ron Verb,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Tuesday. July 7th, we are underway here until
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  Speaker 1: 6 o'clock tonight at 330-729-9977. I mentioned this yesterday, and
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to have your undivided attention, if you don't mind.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to have your undivided attention. When I was off,
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  Speaker 1: I got to see if, hopefully, all my equipment's functioning properly.
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  Speaker 1: If not, we've got a backup plan here. I want
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  Speaker 1: to play to you, and I want you to listen
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  Speaker 1: to this, because I want you to listen to Ron
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  Speaker 1: DeSantis play. And he's talking, and Ron DeSantis is a
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  Speaker 1: governor of Florida. And I want you to listen to
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  Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis as a governor of Florida. And he's talking
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  Speaker 1: about signing these property tax bills. But I want you
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  Speaker 1: to listen to, and this is going to take about
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  Speaker 1: 20 minutes of your time. But I want you to
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  Speaker 1: listen to an intelligent governor. And his philosophy on how
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  Speaker 1: he deals with your money and taxes. So what I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to ask you to do is something very strange
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  Speaker 1: here on talk radio. I'm going to ask you to
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  Speaker 1: simply pay attention. All of you to pay attention. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean pay attention. Wherever you are, just pause for
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  Speaker 1: a second if this works properly for me. There's always
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  Speaker 1: the but. And I want you to listen to this. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I realize this is about Florida, not our community, but
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  Speaker 1: it's the philosophy and the thought process that I want
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  Speaker 1: you to hear that so impresses me. All right? So
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  Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this. Let me see
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  Speaker 1: if we're going to function here. Let's try this.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Excellent.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, hello.
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  Speaker 4: It's great to be back in Bradenton. We've got a
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  Speaker 4: number of folks with us here today, including our Chief
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  Speaker 4: Financial Officer, Blaise Angolia. We have City of Mayor, City
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  Speaker 4: of Bradenton Mayor, Gene Brown, Vice Mayor, Jane Kocher, Representative
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  Speaker 4: Yvette Benaroche, Senator Joe Gruters, Manatee Sheriff.
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  Speaker 1: Rick Wells, County Commissioner Amanda Ballard, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other folks.
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  Speaker 3: And so I want to thank you all for being here.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to sign.
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  Speaker 4: Two pieces of legislation which involve protecting taxpayers, particularly against
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  Speaker 4: local government taxes, property taxes and others, and also ensuring
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  Speaker 4: transparency in the spending process. This has been an issue
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  Speaker 4: that I've discussed from time to time. I know Blaise
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  Speaker 4: N'Golia does it more than just time to time as
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  Speaker 4: part of his duties and doing it. But I think
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  Speaker 4: any time, look, we look at how can.
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  Speaker 3: We be helpful to the people that we represent.
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  Speaker 4: And when you have the kind of COVID era that's
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  Speaker 4: really continued, inflation wave, where things have gotten more expensive,
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  Speaker 4: particularly things like groceries, all these other things, Where can we,
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  Speaker 4: at the state level, make the most impact? Where is
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  Speaker 4: government impinging on the American dream for people the most?
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  Speaker 4: And the state of Florida, at the state level, we
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  Speaker 4: have the lowest or certainly among the lowest tax burdens
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  Speaker 4: anywhere in the country. That's just a fact. No income tax.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: We've eliminated some taxes since I've been here. It just
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: is what it is. A lot of our burden is shared.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: by non-Florida residents, people that snowbird here, tourists, all these
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: other things.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: So that's good.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: But what I think people have been struggling with is
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: the costs associated with homeownership, particularly with property taxes. Now,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: we've also done a lot of stuff to address the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Florida's insurance market, and they just came out. Citizens got
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: reinsurance 30% lower than last year. Before the reforms, reinsurance
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: was going up tremendously. That's going to impact what consumers
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: are charged. And citizens insurance actually did the biggest reduction
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: in rates in the history of the program. For this year,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: likely we'll have to do more reduction going forward. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: we have now like 20 companies in offering. And USAA
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: on auto insurance just announced a billion-dollar rebate. And so, look,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: it's a difficult issue, but the reforms have pushed in
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the direction that we're seeing, and it's been pretty consistent.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Some people say, oh, they didn't reduce mine, and then
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: they go shop, and then they find they can get better. So, yeah,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: they may try to renew you at the same time.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: and that's why you shop likely you're going to be
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: able to save certainly on the auto we've seen that
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: very very significant so so so we've done a lot
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of heavy lifting in the legislature but
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the end of the day it is a private market
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: it's not something we there's things that go into it
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: that that the government just can't control certainly when inflation
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: goes up it's going to be more expensive there's a
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: whole host of things We couldn't help that we had
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: six major hurricanes in seven years. That's just a fact.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: That makes things more challenging. Taxes, though, is just purely
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: a government function. It's not driven by the private sector.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: It's not driven by circumstances. The people you elect, are
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: they taxing you? Our state constitution, what does it allow?
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: How much protection do you get? These are decisions we,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the people, are able to make. And so we have
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: looked to see as from 2019 till the present, local
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: government property tax revenue has basically doubled. It was a
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: little over $ 30 billion in 2019, and now it's about
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: $ 60 billion. Maybe not uniform throughout the state, but everywhere
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: has gone up pretty dramatically.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: That's just a fact.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And the question is, okay, has that been necessary, or
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: should the taxpayers have been benefiting from along the way.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: And so in the process, there's different things that are
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: done with highlighting local spending. I mean, look, there's some
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: instances that are really inexplicable.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And that's really with everything.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, for example, the school district of
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Broward County down in southeast Florida, their budget was, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: think eight years ago, $ 2.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: 5 billion.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: They've lost 50,000 students since then.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And their budget is now $ 5 billion.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Now, where is that money?
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: That is funding the system for the system's sake. That
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: is not doing things to benefit the students.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: And so you see that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: You see different examples that Blaze has found over the years.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And so all that being said, that's something that can
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: be meaningful for people to do. And I'll go into
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: kind of my view on the whole property tax thing
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: and I think where we need to go from here
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: and kind of the legislature. You know, what they did
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: was good, but I think we need to do more.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: But Steve said, well, what do you get up there?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: You guys in Tallahassee want to tell people, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: what to do with local government? Well, listen, I think
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: in some respects in a vacuum, you know, that's a
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: valid concern.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: But I can tell you this.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I have the budget for next fiscal year, which starts
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: July 1st on my desk.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I'm going through.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Proving, vetoing some stuff, whatever, that will be done within
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: the next week. And when I finish all that, it
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: will represent the fourth straight year where the state of
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Florida has reduced the amount it's spending at the state level.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Let me say that again.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Think about that. They've reduced spending four years
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in a row. Listen to this, folks. I just want
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you to listen to this as we go along. This
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: is Governor DeSantis. I want you to hear the philosophy
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of what he's talking about, what is taking place in Florida.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Four years ago was more than the budget three years ago.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: The budget three years ago was more than the budget
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: two years ago and the budget in current year. is
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: less than the budget, or I guess last year's budget
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: that we signed is going to be, this year's budget
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: is going to be less than that. And so it
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: can be done. And that's with population growth. That's with inflation.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: And some of the things, we had to put in
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: more money for some of these projects too.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Don't act like that we were immune for that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: So you've had all those, and yet, and that's not
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: even adjusting for inflation. When I say the budget's lower today,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: next fiscal year will be lower than current fiscal year,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: current less than last, less than the year before that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: That's nominal dollars. That's not inflation-adjusted dollars. Obviously, inflation-adjusted would
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: be dramatically less. Population-adjusted would be dramatically less. So we've
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: done that and have had a very, very stable budget
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: for the last four years. And some of that was,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the legislature, I think, making some thoughtful choices. Some,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: quite frankly, was me having to exercise the line item
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: veto power. But that's just the way. And look at
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: what's happened with the state's debt. If you take all
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the state's debt in the history of the state of
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Florida from statehood till the present, just since I've been governor,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: we've paid off 51% of the state's debt.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Paid it down.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: It's done.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: And we now have the lowest per capita debt of
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: any state in the country.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile..
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: We've done some really big things. We've done the largest
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: environmental restoration in the history of the United States of
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: America with the Florida Everglades. And I now because, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Biden was terrible on this. We now under the Trump
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: administration have been delegated authority to do some of the
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: federal share of the projects. And they're funding that. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: we do it a lot quicker. That's just the way
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: we roll. So we're doing that, and that's something that's been,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: but we've put billions and billions of dollars into that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: It's actually, it's gotten to the point, we've done the infrastructure,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: we've improved the water flow that next year, three years
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: from now, you're going to spend less on that than
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: what I've had to do because we had to really
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: get where we were going. So that's been major. We've
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: done infrastructure. We flushed another $ 7 to $ 8 billion into
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: moving Florida forward. You've got these projects that were in
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: the queue to start 10 years from now when traffic
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: is bad now, and we've accelerated.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Some of you.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Actually in Manatee may experience I-4 going into Orlando. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: know the people that live in Polk and Hillsboro and
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: some of those. Just the temporary lane we did very
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: quickly there has been a huge cut in traffic time there.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Once the whole thing is done, you're going to save.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: And that's actually meaningful for people's lives. So we've never
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: had an investment so dramatic in the history of the state.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: We did that. Education.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: We have the, we've continued to have, and look, I'm
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: not one that says, you know, if you spend more,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: you're going to get better results. Because some of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: worst schools in the country have like $ 40, 000 per student.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: like Washington, D.C., and some of these other ones. So
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: it's not just about that. But even as we've done
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: universal school choice, the amount of money that's gone to
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: school districts has increased, and we've created, under my tenure,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: a special provision of the budget where money that's sent
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: to school districts can only be used for teacher salary increases.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: The budget I'm going to sign soon has, I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: it's like a $ 1. 55 billion, which is more than has
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: ever been done, but $ 200 million of that is targeting
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: people that have 10 years or more experience because we
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: did a lot to try to get the minimum up
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: because we, you know, people didn't want to be teachers.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: They wanted to add other opportunities. So we're trying to
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: make that more attractive for college graduates. But regardless, that's
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a massive investment. So we're doing big things, but doing
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: it within the context of a budget that's actually declining.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: And so when we're sitting here talking about standing up
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: for taxpayers at the local level, making sure spending... is transparent,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: making sure spending's not runaway, making sure people aren't being
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: taxed the way they have been. We have credibility in
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: doing that because our budget has been very, very stable, very,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: very modest.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. You see this.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Stuff in New York City, you know, just electing people
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: that even five years ago, I think, would have been
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: thought that that would have been impossible to do. People
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: that are celebrating terrorism and people that really reject the
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: foundations of this country, which, you know, we're now celebrating 250.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: And, yeah, I.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Think it's a really, really, you know, dangerous trend over
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: there in that party. But the reality is, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: look at how they're governed. The state of New York
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: has 4 million fewer residents than the state of Florida.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Our budget's about $ 117 billion less.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Their budget's $ 268 billion.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Where is that money going?
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: So these are choices that we have to make as
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: citizens and who we elect and what we expect, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: we've done it right at the state level, and a
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: budget that I'll sign very soon will continue that trend,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: and that's something that we're very, very proud of. Now,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: we did launch for not just local government but also
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: state government, this FAFO audits, the Florida Agency for Fiscal Oversight,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: identifying things. And there have been things that have been
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: identified at the state level that have been flagged and reforms.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Sometimes that's easier to do because you can just change
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: your processes if you have an agency or something. But
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: also at the local level, looking at different things. And
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I know they did Manatee County. Blaze did that, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: our folks at the state level did that. And they
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: found that Manatee County, in some ways, you know, had
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: some good marks compared to the rest of the state.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: County held general fund spending growth below the increase in
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: ad valorem revenues, cut the millage rate multiple times, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: embraced the form of zero-based budgeting for operating budget. I
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: think that's really important. Basically, that's legislative speak. for you
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: don't guarantee last year's level of spending plus inflation as
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the starting point. What you do is you go in
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: and say, okay, what do we need to spend on?
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: You should assume zero for certain things, and there should
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: be justification why that should be funded again. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: that just goes without saying. In Washington, what they do,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: they don't do zero-based budgeting, so If you have a
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: failed program that gets hundreds of billions of dollars or
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: millions of dollars, whatever, you go the next year, they
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: assume that same amount plus like 8%. So if you
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: even want to say, okay, we'll do it, but only
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: increase 3%, they say that's a draconian cut. It's actually
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: a 3% increase of the previous year, but they'll frame
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: that as a draconian. So it's hardwired to always increase
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: spending in Washington and always grow government. When you do
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: zero-based budgeting, you kind of take, you diffuse that hard wire,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: and the default should be zero, and then justify why
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: you're using taxpayer money to do those different things.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: All right. Just hang on. I want you to hear
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: this philosophy. I want to play you some more of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this when we get to property taxes and more. Stay tuned.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: This is important to follow. Ron from China. Youngstown's news, weather,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and talk station, 570 WKBN. So why do I want
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you to hear this? And this is just a part
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of the beginning of it. We'll get to property taxes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Because you can tell DeSantis is just a smart guy
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: who reads. You can start with that because there's a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: couple of things that I want you to hear what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he said. It's called zero-based budgeting, which is basically you
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: come in every year into the government's, And you start
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: with zero. Now, you have to justify why you should
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: get whatever amount that you're getting that particular year. You
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: don't start with, this is what we got last year,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so that's where we start, and we are going to
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: get an 8% raise on top of that. And as
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he said, you get a 3% raise, and only in
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: political speak do you say that's a cut. You got
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: more money, but it's a cut because you didn't get
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the 8% raise, you got 3%. As DeSantis says, no,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you should start at zero. You start at zero and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you have to justify the entire budgets of how much
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: money you're going to get. Zero-based budgeting. Each year. And
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you heard him talk about government's role of making life
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: better for people, tax-paying people, as far as those of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you that are familiar with Florida and a traffic jam
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: around Orlando, Disney and I-4, by adding additional lanes on
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that system to make travel easier. easier on everybody as
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they continue to expand that so that you save time.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Money well spent on behalf of the taxpayers. This is
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Now, he's going to get to
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: property taxes, and I want you to hear that. So
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: let's see here. Let's try.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: So there were signs, though, in terms of affordability for
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Manatee taxpayers. Blaze found that Manatee County's overall budget had
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: grown faster than the rate of inflation in and population growth,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: even despite the millage cuts.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: DOGE team found Manatee County.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Carried out capital projects with limited planning and based on
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: questionable assumptions. The number of staff funded, you know, grew
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: pretty dramatically, 25% increase. And then since then, Manatee staff
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: have worked with the DOGE teams to help identify opportunities
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: to save money for taxpayers. And there was a number
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: of things that were identified to be able to do that. So,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: you know, look, I think that's great that Manatee has
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: done that. There's some jurisdictions that they don't want to
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: ever listen or do any of the stuff like that.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: You hear different things like City of St. Pete, $ 307, 000
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: on consulting services, develop a sustainability action plan for a
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Green New Deal-like priority. Counties across southeast Florida created a
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: climate compact designed to force reductions of carbon emissions from residents.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: even though we've reduced emissions through market forces in Florida
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: pretty dramatically. So you see, like, why are your taxes
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: funding some of those things? Those are more ideological joy
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: rides that these local governments are going on. And I'm
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: just saying, if affordability is something we want to address,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: put the money back in the pocket of the property taxpayer,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the homeowner. that's where you can really do a lot
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: of difference. So we've been able to do a lot
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: of these different things. And so, you know, I just
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: looked at the numbers and I said, okay, for whatever reason,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Florida Constitution has always treated the homestead residents preferable to
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: other forms of property. So you have residential that are
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: not homestead, and then you have commercial properties. The homestead property,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: once you do that and establish that, It limits the amount.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: They can increase your valuations. They cap that at most
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: at 3%. And that does help for sure. Now, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: depending on where the market is, if you have to
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: buy a new home, you could get a reset tax basis.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Some of that carries over, but oftentimes not enough to
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: make up for the whole difference in the home. But nevertheless,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: that's been something that's been good. And if you look
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: at all the revenue that local government's taken across the state,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: there's more residential tax revenue that comes in from non-homestead
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: properties than from homestead properties, and obviously you have commercial
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: that contributes to it. So our insight was basically you
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: have this homestead exemption that goes up a certain amount.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Why not exempt at all and let people actually own
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: their home so that they're not constantly being taxed and
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: having to pay the piper for all these other things?
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: People say, oh, how are you going to get services,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: like you're paying a lot of other taxes just around.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of taxes that people pay. So it
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: isn't like they're not going to be doing it. But
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I also think it would be better for the economy
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: because people would have more money in their pocket and
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: it would definitely be a huge, huge reason for people
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: to be homesteaded in Florida. So that was kind of,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: that was our, and we said, look, it may not
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: happen immediately.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: It may have to phase it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Although I think if you did it immediately, it would
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: still be more revenue than local governments got adjusted for
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: population and inflation than they had in 2019. And so
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: we did have all these services in 2019. Let's just
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: be very clear about that. So I thought even if
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: you did that, it would be fine. But if you
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: raise it and continue to raise it, limit local spending
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: so that as revenue comes up, they're not able to
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: just spend it. It goes back and people get more
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: of an exemption and eventually you have that. It's interesting because,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: you know, they're talking about this bill in Washington on housing.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, now let me pause it there. I'll review a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: little bit of this, and I want you to hear
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. All right, just stay tuned because
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: this is the mentality that we lack around. So why
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: do I want you to hear this? All right, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: this is just a part of the beginning of it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: We'll get to property taxes. Because you can tell DeSantis
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is just a smart guy who reads. You can start
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: with that because there's a couple of things that I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: want you to hear what he said. It's called zero-based budgeting,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: which is basically you come in every year into the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: governments and you start with zero. Now, you have to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: justify why you should get whatever amount that you're getting
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that particular year. You don't start with this is what
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: we got last year. So that's where we start, and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: we are going to get an 8% raise on top
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of that. And as he said, you get a 3% raise,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and we only in political speak do you say that's
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a cut. You got more money, but it's a cut
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: because you didn't get the 8% raise. You got 3%.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: As DeSantis says, no, you should start at zero. You
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: start at zero, and you have to justify the entire
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: budgets of how much money you're going to get. Zero-based
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: budgeting each year. And you heard him talk about government's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: role of making life better for people, taxpaying people, as
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: far as those of you that are familiar with Florida
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and a traffic jam around Orlando, Disney and I-4, by
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: adding additional lanes on that system to make travel easier
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: on everybody as they continue to expand that so that
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you save time. Money well spent on behalf of the taxpayers.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: This is what he's talking about. Now, he's going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: get to property taxes later. And I want you to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: hear that. So let's see here.
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: Let's try.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: So there were signs, though, in terms of affordability for
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Manatee taxpayers. Blaze found that Manatee County's overall budget had
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: grown faster than the rate of inflation and population growth,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: even despite the millage cuts. DOGE team found many county
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: carried out capital projects with limited planning and based on
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: questionable assumptions. The number of staff funded, you know, grew
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: pretty dramatically, 25% increase. And then since then, Manatee staff
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: have worked with the DOGE teams to help identify opportunities
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: to save money for taxpayers. And there was a number
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: of things that were identified to be able to do that. So,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: you know, look, I think that's great that Manatee has
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: done that. There's some jurisdictions that they don't want to
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: ever listen or do any of the stuff like that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: You hear different things like City of St. Pete, $ 307, 000
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: on consulting services, develop a sustainability action plan for a
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Green New Deal-like priority. Counties across southeast Florida created a
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: climate compact designed to force reductions of car emissions from residents,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: even though we've reduced emissions through market forces in Florida
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: pretty dramatically. So you see, like, why are your taxes
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: funding some of those things? Those are more ideological joyrides
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: that these local governments are going on. And I'm just saying,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: if affordability is something we want to address... Put the
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: money back in the pocket of the property taxpayer, the homeowner.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: That's where you can really do a lot of difference.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: So we've been able to do a lot of these
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: different things. And so I just looked at the numbers
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and I said, okay, for whatever reason, Florida Constitution has
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: always treated the homestead residents preferable to other forms of property.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: So you have residential that are not homestead, and then
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: you have commercial properties that The homestead property, once you
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: do that and establish that, it limits the amount. They
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: can increase your valuations. They cap that at most at 3%.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: And that does help for sure. Now, you know, depending
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: on where the market is, if you have to buy
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: a new home, you could get a reset tax basis.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Some of that carries over, but oftentimes not enough to
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: make up for the whole difference of the home. But nevertheless,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: that's been something that's been good. And if you look
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: at all the revenue that local governments take in, across
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: the state, there's more residential tax revenue that comes in
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: from non-homestead properties than from homestead properties, and obviously you
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: have commercial that contributes to it. So our insight was
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: basically you have this homestead exemption that goes up a
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: certain amount. Why not exempt it all and let people
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: actually own their home so that they're not constantly being
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: taxed and having to pay the piper for all these
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: other things. People say, oh, how are you going to
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: get services? Like, you're paying a lot of other taxes
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: just around. There's a lot of taxes that people pay.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: So it isn't like they're not going to be doing it,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: but I also think it would be better for the
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: economy because people would have more money in their pocket,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: and it would definitely be a huge, huge reason for
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: people to be homesteaded in Florida. So that was kind of,
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: that was our, and we said, look, it may not
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: happen immediately.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: It may have to phase it.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Although I think if you did it immediately, it would
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: still be more revenue than local governments got adjusted for
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: population and inflation than they had in 2019. And so
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: we did have all these services in 2019. Let's just
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: be very clear about that. So I thought even if
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: you did that, it would be fine. But if you
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: raise it and continue to raise it, limit local spending
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: so that as revenue comes up, they're not able to
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: just spend it. It goes back and people get more
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: of an exemption and eventually you have that. It's interesting because,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: you know, they're talking about this bill in Washington on housing.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, now let me pause it there. I'll review a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: little bit of this, and I want you to hear
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. All right, just stay tuned because
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: this is the mentality that we lack around here.
• 42:25
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• 44:03
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• 44:05
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• 44:08
  Speaker 7: And..
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: You say, no, this is a governor of Florida. We
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: live in Ohio. I want you just to listen to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the philosophy, though. It's the thought process that he's talking about.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: His thought process. So every year over the last four years,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: they spent less money than a year before. They didn't
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: spend more money. They shrank government. So this year's budget
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: is less than last year's budget. Last year's budget was
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: less than a year before that's. And the one before
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that was less than the one before that. And they're
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: not adjusting dollars for inflation. They're just using dollars as
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: they apply. So they're spending less money. Not adjusted for inflation,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: spending less money. So you start with that mentality. Then
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: they're saying, okay, well, if we're going to spend money,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: we're going to spend money on projects that benefit the citizens.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like adding extra lanes on the freeway so that you're
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: not stuck in traffic so long. Not in some of
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: this ridiculous spending, as he was pointing out with this
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: school system, that has substantially less kids, but a $ 5
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: billion budget. And yet they're educating less children. So you
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: can see the money's just going to the system. So
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: he's getting the property taxes and he's talking... Now think
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: of what he said about property taxes. And in Florida,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: with the homestead exemption, just compare it to what you're
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: hearing here in Mahoning County. In Florida, the homestead exemption
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is not age-based and it's not income-based. If you are
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a Florida resident and live in your home, you get
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the homestead exemption. Period. So he's talking about totally eliminating
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: property taxes. Totally eliminating them. And saying that you pay
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: enough in other taxes, we can cover, in all these
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: other taxes you're paying, we should be able to figure
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: out a way to cover all these expenses. So just
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: pay attention here as we continue on, okay?
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: And then President Trump, I think, just threw cold water
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: on it. I don't know what that means going forward.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: But one of the issues they were supposedly addressing are
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: these large companies like private equity buying up neighborhoods. and
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: then renting them out. And so they were talking about
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: banning it. The bill doesn't actually ban it. It just
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: has those institutional people go through a couple extra steps.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: So I'm not sure anyone's really going to be happy
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: with that on either side. But we looked at it
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: from the tax perspective in Florida.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: If you have homestead tax-free and some of these companies
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: want to buy 20 homes in a neighborhood, they're going
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: to pay tax on that. You are not as the
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: primary homeowner, so if we want to make homes more
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: affordable for individual homeowners and not just make them end
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: up being this, well, having that real strong homestead, that
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: would help get you there because it would be much
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: better to do that than to do the other. Be
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: that as it may, that was what we were.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Really working for. And we also proposed, so yes, you
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: do that, yes.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: You have to have a process where people can't just
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: move here and claim this immediately, that they would have
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: to have some skin in the game for a period
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: of time. Just like you have to establish residency for
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: in-state tuition, can be the same thing. And so we
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: thought that was important. And then I also thought, look,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: I think that a lot of these folks, these local
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: governments have adequate resources, but we've got this massive surplus
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: of We now have quadrupled the rainy day funds since
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I took office in 2019. We're going to end up,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I'm going to veto some more stuff, so we're going
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: to end up with really, really strong reserves. I mean, historically,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: the last last six or seven years in Florida has
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: been without really peer in the modern history of the state,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: why not take some of that, establish a fund, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: then give local governments who really need money for services grants?
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not giving you a grant to increase bloat. I'm
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: not giving you a grant to do your ideology. But
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: if there was a city that said, you know, look,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: we're going to have to lay off these two police
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: officers because of this, how the property tax work, I
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: would give a grant for that.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: You have others, you give a grant. That's fine.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: And that wouldn't be forever, but it would be in
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: this transition period. And that would really be historic, and
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I think it would be something to do. So we
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: worked on that. We proposed We had worked with primarily
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the Senate. It's just the reality of kind of how
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: we had to deal with the legislature the last couple years.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: You know, didn't have support in the House leadership to
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: do very much that we wanted to do. So we
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: had to figure out ways to get it done and
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: stopped a lot of the stuff they wanted to do,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: which would have been really bad. But we did. Ultimately,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: you know, the House was not going to pass the
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Homestead elimination proposal, put it on the ballot.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I think it would have passed. I think it would
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: have been huge.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Biggest victory for taxpayers in the history of the state
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: probably since they banned the income tax in the state constitution.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: So be that as it may, they ended up passing
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: a big property tax cut.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I'm in favor of it. I think it'll be very
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: good for taxpayers.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Honestly, it's a modest reduction in kind of the revenue.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're still way, way.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: More than they were in 2019 local governments relative to
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: inflation and population growth. Don't let anyone tell you differently
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: on that. If you couldn't function in 2019 levels of spending,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: if you could function in 2019, you're going to be
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: able to function if this passes going forward.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: There is no question about it. And so I.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Applaud that the legislature was willing to put something on
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: the ballot. You know, I haven't run all the numbers
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: on that. We had all the numbers for our proposal.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: We were going to roll out everything. But I think
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: it's going to be good It'll be meaningful, particularly for
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: people that are more working class and middle class.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Homeowners.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: And they're going to see a pretty big cut in
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: what they're doing on property tax. And I know Blaze
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: can tell you how some of those numbers work in
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: terms of what he's seen with the overspending. So if
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: you literally just put the budgets back at 2024 level
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: and just froze them there and not let them grow
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: more than population or inflation... you'd have huge amounts of
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: money to be able to return to our homeowners. There's
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: no question about it. So it can be done. So
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: they're doing that, and that's going to be on the
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: ballot in November. And I know there's a lot of
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: discussion about it. All I'll tell you is, when I
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: hear these people, it's like, do you.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Care about affordability or not? If you care about it,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: then what better.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Tool in the toolbox do we have than to do
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: this for our home-setted property owners. I mean, that's the
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: best thing we can do. It obviously overwhelmingly benefits middle-class people.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: And not that I mean, I want everyone to get it,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: but this is definitely something that's targeted there and that it's.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Going to be a meaningful thing.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: And it's like, some people just believe that government has
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: first dibs on your property and your income. And it's like, okay,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: you exist to satisfy government and then you get the
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: crumbs that are left over, I think it's the other
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: way around. I think you work hard, you save, you invest,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: you acquire property because you're doing what our founding fathers
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: established this country to do. You're pursuing happiness. You're realizing
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: your ambitions. And in part of that, if there's taxes
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: to support government that will help you do that, then
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: that's one thing. Even though we don't like paying, we
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: understand there's a small need for it. But ultimately, government
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: is supposed to exist to be able to ensure that
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: that dream is alive, that you're able to do what
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: you want. And I just think some people just have
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: it totally backwards. It should be, what do our citizens need?
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Then you can talk about government's needs. And instead, it's
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: all about what government needs or wants, not even needs,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: what they want. and that you're just supposed to be
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: happy with crumbs on the table.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Now tell me that isn't the mentality around here. Tell
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: me just based on what you've heard on these debates lately.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: So you've heard locally how important it is that governments
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: get your money and you get the crumbs. And this
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: is what I want you to hear from DeSantis in Florida.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: It's the other way around. And this is what they're
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: doing in Florida. As he said, the more money that
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you can get back into the homeowners' pockets, the more
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: they have to spend, the better off the economy is,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the better off their life is. But the mentality around
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: here is, oh, we can't cut anything. We always got
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: to increase spending. We can't give the person their money back.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: We give them the crumbs. So a very important statement
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: philosophy just made.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: That's not the way the country was founded. And that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: not consistent, I think, with the ethos here in the
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: free state of Florida. So we have a chance to
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: do something about it. I view the initiative as kind
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: of an opening salvo. I don't think that this is
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: the end of property tax. I think that we have
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: an opportunity as a state that attracts a lot of visitors,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of people that pay taxes here who are
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: not residents here in a variety of ways. We can
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: leverage that for the benefit of our own citizens and
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: the primary homeowners that homestead their property. And so that
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: debate will continue. But the people are ahead of the
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: elites on this, right? You know, some elites, they're just
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: so used to, well, of course, your home is subject.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Government can take your home if you stop paying, auction
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: the house, all this stuff.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Like, no, not of course.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Why would we want to allow that to happen in
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: a free society? And so I think that you're going
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: to continue to see a lot of the politicians are
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: going to have to catch up. to where the people
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: are going because the people want and they need relief
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: and they want to be able to own their own home.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: So the bills were signed today kind of plays into
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: that whole debate about proper levels of spending, support for taxpayers.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: And so there's two bills that we're signing.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: The first one was passed in the property tax special session.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: It's Senate Bill 4F.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: It makes it harder for local governments to raise property
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: tax burdens without greater accountability. So under current law, local
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: governments can benefit from complicated formulas that allow them to
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: take in more money from taxpayers, even when they are
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: not technically raising tax rates. This bill cuts through that
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: concern by strengthening safeguards against local property tax increases. It
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: changes how local governments calculate the maximum property tax rate
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: they can adopt, with a simple majority vote. Under the
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: current system, local governments can increase rates based on growth
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: in Florida's per capita personal income. This bill removes that
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: adjustment and generally limits the maximum possible millage rate increase
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: year over year to the standard rollback rate. The rollback
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: rate is designed to bring in roughly the same amount
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: of property tax revenue as the year before, meaning local
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: governments won't necessarily be able to increase revenue as quickly
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: as home values rise. And let's just be clear, these
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: home values are totally subjective. You know, they say you
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: bought a house for $ 350, 000 six years ago, and then
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: they tell you two years ago, by the way, it's worth.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: $ 800, 000.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Well, you never sold the.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: House for $ 800, 000, and so until there's actually a market transaction,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: and this stuff goes up and down. So this is
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: something that will be protecting taxpayers. Under the bill, if
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: a local government wants to go above the rollback level,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: they'd have to meet a higher threshold within the local
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: governing body. And so having supermajority requirements, two-thirds vote, is
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: something that's really, really positive for taxpayers. The change is
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: expected to lower the base millage rate for many local
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: governments because the new calculation no longer factors in personal
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: income growth. Many jurisdictions will have less ability to increase
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: property tax collections through the normal budgeting process. And that's
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: part of the thing with property tax when they say.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: This property tax.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: A lot of it is kind of silent stealth tax
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: increases because you're not actually raising your rate. Just all
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: of a sudden you have to pay more, right? And
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: there's not even like really a public vote on it.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Inside knowledge.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: To the extent that you would expect. So this is good.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: This supports the ballot initiative that's on the ballot. and
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: provides the ability to have that clearly explained. So I
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: look forward to signing that momentarily. Second bill I'm signing
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: today is Blaze's bill, HB 1329, Local Government Financial Transparency
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: and Accountability Act. It requires local governments to put more
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: of their financial information online in a format that taxpayers
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: can more readily access for review. This includes budget summaries, revenues, expenditures,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: spending by department and function, staffing summaries, reserves, fund balances,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: and other important financial information. The bill also requires counties
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: and municipalities to publish quarterly reports concerning employee compensation and
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: an annual budget development calendar promoting year-round accountability for local governments.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: More importantly, this bill requires local governments to conduct a
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: budget cutting exercise before final adoption. I know Blaise will
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: talk a little bit about that. So I want to
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: thank the folks in the legislature for passing these two bills.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: These bills are taxpayer friendly.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: And we've got to be taxpayer friendly as office holders,
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: but particularly as Republicans. And these bills meet that mark.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: We're going to hear from Blaze and then the mayor,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: and then I'll make it official.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: So Blaze, you want to come up?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's the part I wanted
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: you to hear. Why is that important? Because I wanted
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you to hear the philosophy. And this is not a
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: philosophy that you hear from your local officials around here.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: So every year in Florida, they've lowered spending. This year
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: is lower than the year before. And the year before
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: that was lower than... every year they're spending less money.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Not adjusted for inflation, the same dollars. They don't play
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: the game well adjusted for inflation. They're spending less money
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: each year. So DeSantis wants to totally do away with
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: property taxes because he says, think of what that would
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: do for people's incomes. And they'll spend the money. And
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Totally do away with it. Now,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't do away with people, these big... conglomerates that
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: buy rental properties, as we have them here, companies. This
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: would not apply to businesses that have rental properties. It
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't apply to Home Depot or commercial business. It would
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: only apply to people who live in their homes, who
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: own and live in their homes. It would apply to them.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Zero property taxes, total homestead exemption. That's what he wants
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: as governor. Hasn't got there yet, but his champion getting
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: there and told you about the bill that he's going
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to sign. But it's a philosophy, says government. And what
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: do you have here when they were talking about doubling
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the owner occupancy tax? from 2.5% to 5%. What did
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: you see? Superintendents up bitching how it's going to affect them.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Bruce Shep is up there bitching about what it's going
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: to do to the townships. They were all there at
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: governments talking about, oh, no, no, you can't cut government spending.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Even though we got more money from the re-evaluations, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: even though you're just giving a small portion of it
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: back to the people that are paying it, it'll be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: devastating to governments. They didn't care about what it does
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: to the homeowner. That is the most dangerous philosophy of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: these knuckleheads that have that philosophy. So in Florida, they're
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: spending less each year. Not the same, less. Do you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: see that in Mahoning County? Do you see that around here?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Do you see that in the state of Ohio? I'll
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: be right back. Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: All right, back to it now. I talked about this
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: yesterday because I was listening to this when I was
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: on break, okay, for last week. And you say, no,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: this is Governor of Florida. We live in Ohio. I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: want you just to listen to the philosophy, though. It's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the thought process that he's talking about. His thought process.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: So every year over the last four years, they spent
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: less money than the year before. They didn't spend more money.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: They shrank government. So this year's budget is less than
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: last year's budget. Last year's budget was less than a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: year before that. And the one before that was less
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: than the one before that. And they're not adjusting dollars
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: for inflation. They're just using dollars as they apply. So
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: they're spending less money. Not adjusted for inflation, spending less money.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: So you start with that mentality. Then they're saying, okay, well,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: if we're going to spend money, we're going to spend
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: money on projects that benefit the citizens, like adding extra
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: lanes on the freeway so that you're not stuck in
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: traffic so long. Not in some of this ridiculous spending,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: as he was pointing out, with a school system that
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: has substantially less kids, but a $ 5 billion budget. And
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: yet they're educating less children. So you can see the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: money's just going to the system. So he's getting the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: property taxes and he's talking. Now think of what he
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: said about property taxes. And in Florida with the homestead exemption,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: unlike and just compare it to what you're hearing here
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: in Mahoning County. In Florida, the homestead exemption is not
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: age-based and it's not income-based. If you are a Florida
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: resident living in your home, you get the homestead exemption, period.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: So he's talking about totally eliminating property taxes. Totally eliminating
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: them and saying that you pay enough in other taxes.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: We can cover in all these other taxes you're paying.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: We should be able to figure out a way to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: cover all these expenses. So just pay attention here as
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: we continue on. OK.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: And then President Trump, I think, just threw cold water
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: on it. I don't know what that means going forward.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: But one of the issues they were supposedly addressing are
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: these large companies like private equity buying up neighborhoods. and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: then renting them out. And so they were talking about
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: banning it. The bill doesn't actually ban it. It just
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: has those institutional people go through a couple extra steps.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: So I'm not sure anyone's really going to be happy
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: with that on either side. But we looked at it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: from the tax perspective in Florida.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: If you have Homestead tax-free and some of these companies
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: want to buy You know, 20 homes in a neighborhood,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: they're going to pay tax on that. You are not
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: as the primary homeowner. So if we want to make
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: homes more affordable for individual homeowners and not just make
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: them end up being this, well, having that real strong homestead,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: that would help get you there because it would be
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: much better to do that than to do the other.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Be that as it may, that was what we were
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: really working for. And we also propose, so yes, you
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: do that. Yes, you have to have a process where
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: people can't just move here and claim this immediately, that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: they would have to have some skin in the game
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: for a period of time. Just like you have to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: establish residency for in-state tuition, can be the same thing.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: And so we thought that was important. And then I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: also thought, look, I.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Think that a lot of these folks, these local governments
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: have adequate resources to But we've got this massive surplus.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: We now have quadrupled the rainy day funds since I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: took office in 2019. We're going to end up, I'm
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: going to veto some more stuff, so we're going to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: end up with really, really strong reserves.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, historically, the last..
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Last six or seven years in Florida has been without
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: really peer in the modern history of the state, why
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: not take some of that, establish a fund, and then
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: give local governments who really need money for services grants?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not giving you a grant to increase bloat.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not giving you a grant to do your ideology.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: But if there was a city that said, you know, look,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: we're going to have to lay off these two police
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: officers because of this, how the property tax work, I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: would give a grant for that.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: You have others, you give a grant. That's fine.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: And that wouldn't be forever, but it would be in
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: this transition period.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: And that would really be historic, and I think it
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: would be something to do. So we worked on that.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: We proposed. We had worked with primarily the Senate.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: It's just the reality of kind of how we had
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: to deal with the legislature the last couple years.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: You know, didn't have.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Support in the House leadership to do very much that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: we wanted to do. So we had to figure out
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: ways to get it done and stopped a lot of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: the stuff they wanted to do, which would have been
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: really bad.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: But we did.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Ultimately, you know, the House was not going to pass
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: the Homestead elimination proposal, put it on the ballot.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: I think it would have passed. I think it would
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: have been huge.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: Biggest victory for taxpayers in the history of the state,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: probably since they banned the income tax in the state constitution.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: So be that as it may, they ended up passing
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: a big property tax cut. I'm in favor of it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be very good for taxpayers. Honestly, it's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: a modest reduction in kind of the revenue. I mean,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: they're still way, way more than they were in 2019
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: local government's. relative to inflation and population growth. Don't let
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: anyone tell you differently on that. If you couldn't function
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: in 2019 levels of spending, if you could function in 2019,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: you're going to be able to function if this passes
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: going forward.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: There is no question about it.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: And so I applaud that the legislature was willing to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: put something on the ballot. You know, I haven't run
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: all the numbers on that.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: We had all the.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Numbers for our proposal. We were going to roll out everything.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: But I think it's going to be good It'll be meaningful,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: particularly for people that are, you know, more working class
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: and middle class.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Homeowners.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: And they're going to see a pretty big cut in
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: what they're doing on property tax. And I know Blaze,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: you know, can tell you how some of those numbers
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: work in terms of what he's seen with the overspending.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: So if you adjust, if you literally just put the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: budgets back at like 2024 level and just froze them
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: there and not let them grow more than population or inflation,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: you'd have huge amounts of money to be able to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: return to our homeowners. There's no question about it. So
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: it can be done. So they're doing that, and that's
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: going to be on the ballot in November. And I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: know there's a lot of discussion about it. All I'll
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: tell you is when I hear these people, it's like,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: do you care about affordability or not? If you care
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: about it, then what better tool in the toolbox do
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: we have than to do this for our home-setted property owners.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the best thing we can do.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: It obviously overwhelmingly benefits middle-class people. And not that I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: mean I want everyone to get it, but this is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: definitely something that's targeted there, and it's going to be
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: a meaningful thing. And it's like some people just believe
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: that government has first dibs on your property and your income.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, you exist to satisfy government, and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: then you get the crumbs that are left over, I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: think it's the other way around. I think you work hard,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: you save, you invest, you acquire property because you're doing
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: what our founding fathers established this country to do. You're
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: pursuing happiness. You're realizing your ambitions. And in part of that,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: if there's taxes to support government that will help you
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: do that, then that's one thing. Even though we don't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: like paying, we understand there's a small need for it.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: But ultimately, government is supposed to exist to be able
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: to ensure that that dream is alive, that you're able
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: to do what you want. And I just think some
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: people just have it totally backwards. It should be, what
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: do our citizens need? Then you can talk about government's needs.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: And instead, it's all about what government needs or wants,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: not even needs, what they want, and that you're just
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: supposed to be happy with crumbs on the table.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Now, tell me that isn't the mentality around here. Tell me,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: just based on what you've heard on these debates lately.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: So you've heard locally how important it is that governments
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: get your money and you get the crumbs. And this
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: is what I want you to hear from DeSantis in Florida.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: It's the other way around. And this is what they're
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: doing in Florida. As he said, the more money that
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: you can get back into the homeowners' pockets, the more
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: they have to spend, the better off the economy is,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: the better off their life is. But the mentality around
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: here is, oh, we can't. We can't cut anything. We
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: always got to increase spending. We can't give the person
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: their money back. We give them the crumbs. So a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: very important statement philosophy just made.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: That's not the way the country was founded. And that's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: not consistent, I think, with the ethos here in the
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: free state of Florida. So we have a chance to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: do something about it. I view the initiative as kind
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: of an opening salvo. I don't think that this is
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: the end of property tax. I think that We have
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: an opportunity as a state that attracts a lot of visitors,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of people that pay taxes here who are
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: not residents here.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: In a variety of ways.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: We can leverage that for the benefit of our own
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: citizens and the primary homeowners that homestead their property. And
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: so that debate will continue. But the people are ahead
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: of the elites on this, right? Some elites are just
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: so used to, well, of course your home is subject.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Government can take your home if you stop paying.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Auction now, all this stuff.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Like, no, not of course.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: Why would we want to allow that to happen in
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: a free society? And so I think that you're going
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: to continue to see a lot of the politicians are
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: going to have to catch up to where the people
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: are going because the people want and they need relief
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: and they want to be able to own their own home.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: So the bills were signed today kind of plays into
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: that whole debate about proper levels of spending support for taxpayers.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: And so there's two bills that we're signing. The first
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: one was passed in the property tax special session. It's
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: Senate Bill 4F. It makes it harder for local governments
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: to raise property tax burdens without greater accountability. So under
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: current law, local governments can benefit from complicated formulas that
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: allow them to take in more money from taxpayers, even
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: when they are not technically raising.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Tax rates.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: This bill cuts through that concern by strengthening safeguards against
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: local property tax increases. It changes how local governments calculate
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: the maximum property tax rate they can adopt with a
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: simple majority vote.
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  Speaker 3: Under the current system, local.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Governments can increase rates based on growth in Florida's per
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: capita personal income. This bill removes that adjustment and generally
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: limits the maximum possible millage rate increase year over year
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: to the standard rollback rate. The rollback rate is designed
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: to bring in roughly the same amount of property tax
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: revenue as the year before, meaning local governments won't necessarily
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: be able to increase revenue as quickly as home values rise.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: And let's just be clear. These home values are totally subjective.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: You know, they say you bought a house for $ 350, 000
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: six years ago. And then they tell you two years ago,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: by the way, it's worth $ 800, 000. Well, you never sold
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: the house for $ 800, 000. And so until there's actually a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: market transaction, and this stuff goes up and down. So
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: this is something that will be protecting taxpayers. Under the bill,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: if a local government wants to go above the rollback level,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: they'd have to meet a higher threshold within the local
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: governing body. And so having supermajority requirements, two-thirds vote, is
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: something that's really, really positive for taxpayers. The change is
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: expected to lower the base millage rate for many local
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: governments because the new calculation no longer factors in personal
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: income growth. Many jurisdictions will have less ability to increase
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: property tax collections through the normal budgeting process.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: And, you know, that's part of the thing with property
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: tax when they say, oh, you know, this property tax.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: A lot of it is kind of silent stealth tax
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: increases because they're not actually raising your rate just all
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: of a sudden you have to pay more, right?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: And there's not even like really.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: A public vote on it to the extent that you
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: would expect.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: So this is good.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: This supports the ballot initiative that's on the ballot and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: provides the ability to have that clearly explained. So I
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: look forward to signing that momentarily. Second bill I'm signing
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: today is Blaze's bill, HB 1329, Local Government Financial Transparency
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: and Accountability Act. It requires local governments to put more
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: of their financial information online and in a format that
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: taxpayers can more readily access for review. This includes budget summaries, revenues, expenditures,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: spending by department and function, staffing summaries, reserves, fund balances,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: and other important financial information. The bill also requires counties
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: and municipalities to publish quarterly reports concerning employee compensation and
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: an annual budget development calendar promoting year-round accountability for local governments.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: More importantly, this bill requires local governments to conduct a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: budget-cutting exercise before final adoption. I know Blaze will talk
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: a little bit about that. So I want to thank
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: the folks in the legislature for passing these two bills.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: These bills are.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Taxpayer-friendly, and we've got to be taxpayer-friendly as officeholders, but
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: particularly as Republicans.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: And these bills meet that mark.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: So we're going to hear from Blaze and then the mayor,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: and then I'll make it official.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: So, Blaze, you want to come up?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's the part I wanted
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: you to hear. Why is that important? Because I wanted
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: you to hear the philosophy. And this is not a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: philosophy that you hear from your local officials around here.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: So every year in Florida, they've lowered spending. This year
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: is lower than the year before. And the year before
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: that was lower than every year. They're spending less money.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Not adjusted for inflation, the same dollars. They don't play
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: the game well adjusted for inflation. They're spending less money
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: each year. So DeSantis wants to totally do away with
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: property taxes because he says, think of what that would
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: do for people's incomes. And they'll spend the money. And
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Totally do away with it. Now,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't do away with people, these big conglomerates that
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: buy rental properties, as we have them here, companies. This
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: would not apply to businesses that have rental properties. It
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: wouldn't apply to Home Depot or commercial business. It would
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: only apply to people who live in their homes, who
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: own and live in their homes. It would apply to them.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Zero property taxes, total homestead exemption. That's what he wants
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: as governor. Hasn't got there yet, but his champion getting
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: there and told you about the bills that he's going
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: to sign. But it's a philosophy, says governments. And what
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: did you have here when they were talking about doubling
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: the owner occupancy from 2.5% to 5%? What did you see?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Superintendents up bitching how it's going to affect them. Bruce
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Shep is up there bitching about what it's going to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: do to the townships. They were all there at governments
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: talking about, oh, no, no, you can't cut government spending.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Even though we got more money from the re-evaluations, and
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: even though you're just giving a small portion of it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: back to the people that are paying it, it'll be
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: devastating to governments. They didn't care about what it does
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: to the homeowner. That is the most dangerous philosophy of
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: these knuckleheads that have that philosophy. So in Florida, they're
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: spending less each year. Not the same, less. Do you
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: see that in Mahoning County? Do you see that around here?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Do you see that in the state of Ohio? I'll
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: be right back. Your one stop for at the end.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: We're back at it for a six in the afternoon.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN and Ron Furb. It's 85 degrees
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: humid out there on this Tuesday, July 7th. By the way,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: here's an update. As I said, we we offered for
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: banner took the brunt of this. The tornado. I survived
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the tornado. This was on Sunday as as it came
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: into Austintown. I mean, I was looking right out the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: front window. And incidentally, kudos, the sirens are fantastic. I
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: don't understand why some people, I would look out and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: see some people kind of like, what? What's that all about?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they only test them Saturday at noon. When
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: you hear that siren go off, pay attention to it.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: So you would hear the tornado siren go off. Then
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: you heard it go off again. And, hey, it's telling you,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: look what's coming. Look what's coming. It isn't here right now,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: but it's coming. And you could see this dark cloud,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: this dark wall coming my way. And then it went
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: from calm to just unbelievable buckets of rain that were
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: coming down, just buckets of rain that were coming down.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Just incredible. the amount of rain, and then the winds.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: So you had the rain, like a fire hose was
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: shooting at your house, then the winds, and then the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: power goes out. But it's like, you know we have
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: a generator the kind you pull start and one of those.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: So once it passed, we made sure we plugged that
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: in outside the house. There's a plug for it. And
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: so that your sump pump would run so your basement
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: wouldn't flood. That's why you have a generator. As I said,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: when I got married to my wife, my father-in-law was
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: an electrician, God rest his soul, who told me, if
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: you've got a sump pump, you better own a generator.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: And I share that advice with each and every one
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: of you as we review all this weather situation that
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: we've had and those of you that have flooded basements.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: So that's what he said, my father-in-law, the electrician. If
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: you have a sump pump, you better own a generator.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Because when does your power usually go off? During a thunderstorm,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: during a rain event. So when Verb Manor was established
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: in 1996, when we built it, and there was a
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: sump pump, one of the first purchases I made was
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: a generator.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: And..
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Wanted to make sure that, and sure enough, it has
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: paid off time and time again. I don't care if
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: it sits in a, and it's one of those things
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: that you put it in your garage, but you better
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: get it out every few months and start it. Make
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: sure you put in, like in ours, I just tell you,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: we put in what they call recreational fuel. It doesn't
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: have any of the ethanol in it. It's just pure gas,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: if you will. You pay more for it per gallon.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: You see it, they sell it at Meyers and Country
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Fair and this kind of stuff. You don't have any
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: of the, what is it, ethanol in it? It's 10% ethanol,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: none of that kind of stuff. So that gas lasts
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: longer and it doesn't have all that other crap in it.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: So it costs more, but we always fill our generator
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: with that. And you can put stable in it as well,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: in addition to that. So that way the gas doesn't
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: turn bad. So you have gas in it. And if
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: you own a generator, you bring it out every month
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: or two and you start it. Make sure it runs.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: So that when you need it, the carburetor isn't gummed
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: up or it doesn't start or you need a new
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: spark plug. Well, it's a little late then when you
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: need it. So you got to kind of give it
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: some attention every month or two. Let's even say every
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: two months you give it some attention. Make sure the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: thing runs so when you do need it, it functions.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: So needless to say, you know, I listened to my father-in-law.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: We had a generator. So consequently, when a storm passed
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: and the power was out, boom. We didn't have to
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: worry about a flooded basement because our sump pump was
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: functioning because of the generator. And incidentally, another thing, always
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: have a spare sump pump. Because if yours goes at
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: night and the store is closed, you're screwed. Always have
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: a spare one. Invest in having a spare one standing
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: by so that they're pretty easy to swap out if
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: you've got a lot of rain coming in or getting
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: somebody to do it for you if you're unable to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: do it. But you better have a sump pump there
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: to put in. And if you have the same kind
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: that's in there, it's really easy to do. So consequently...
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: So we were, let's see, that'd be four o'clock. So
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: we were running our generator from four o'clock Sunday till
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: last night at 1230. They finally restored our power at
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: 1230 last night. So what's that? 30, not quite 48 hours,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: about 36, 37, 38 hours. You know, the thing runs continuously.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: And during that time, also what this generator does, and
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: it's stuff for you to think about. In our house,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: it's wired, so it takes care of the freezers, the refrigerator.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: We have a refrigerator in the garage, a refrigerator in
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: the house. We've got a couple of freezers, and it
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: takes care of that. It takes care of making sure
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: there's power to your garage, to your garage door. If
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: my wife hits the garage door opener, it'll open and close.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: And lights in your house. It comes with that kind
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So you've got to think it through. I
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: think if you get a whole house one like Mike
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Craig sells, even better. I mean, if you get one
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: of those deals that runs on natural gas. But even
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: if you get one like Mike talks about in Generator Specialists,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: they have a program they come out every year in service.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: It changes you on, makes sure the battery's okay. And
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: you better subscribe to that so when you need it,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: it's there to function. Because if you don't maintain it
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: when you need it, it's not going to turn on.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: What's the point? But I don't have one of those.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: But like I say, I got a gas one. But
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: the outside, the house was wired so that there's a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: plug on the outside house. You plug it in. You
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: can pick eight circuits that you can fire up. And
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: there's a transfer switch inside. And, you know, you can
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: run your refrigerator. You're not worried about your food spoiling
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: or your freezer or your garage door being able to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: open or lights in your house. And it also goes
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: to the furnace. Now, in the wintertime, it can provide heat.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't provide air conditioning, which I might work
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: on that. There's a thing called a micro air. My
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: brother has down in Florida. You add it to your
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: air conditioning units and it doesn't get that initial big
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: power surge to turn on. And your generator can cover that.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: because it was miserable without air conditioning. But needless to say,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's something to think about. It's like insurance.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: You buy it, you never want to use it. I
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: have car insurance. I never bitch if I never use
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: it because it means I haven't gotten in accidents. I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: have health insurance. I don't bitch if I never use it.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: It means I haven't been sick. So insurance is one
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: of those things you have that you don't want to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: use that you pay for. Well, a generator is one
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: of those things that you have and you hope you
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: never need, but you're damn glad it's there and you
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: maintain it. And like I say, get a spare sump
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: pump too. So if yours goes, you have one that
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: you can throw in there. It has saved my hides
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: numerous times, both having a spare sump pump and having
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: a generator. I will tell you that right now. I
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: feel sorry for these people who didn't do that. They
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: get a foot of water or more in their basement.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Next thing you know, your furnace is shot because of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the electronics. Your washer, dryer, all this stuff, your hot
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: water tank, whatever is all shot in your basement because
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: you didn't prepare for these storms. And I don't mean
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: just the tornado that we've all been through this time,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: depending where you live, but also you can have any
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: type of major thunderstorm and thunder and lightning to take
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: out your electricity. So let's... What do they say? Let's
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: learn from these experiences. So I pass along just the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: wisdom that I got over the years, as I say,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: from my father-in-law. If you've got a sump pump in
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: your basement, you damn well better have a generator. And
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: if you have a generator, you better make sure it
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: runs every couple months. Don't put it in the garage
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: and forget about it because when you need it, it's
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: not going to start. You better put the right gas
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: in it, the stabilizer in it, and keep running it
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: every month or two to make sure it works when
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: you need it. But those people who didn't do that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: and watch your basement fill with water, at the very least,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: you could always have a battery backup sump pump tube. Now,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: that might not keep up for a while, but you've
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: got to be able to recharge your battery after a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: period of time. Just some thoughts that we should learn
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: from all of this kind of stuff, that we should
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: absolutely learn from it. I'm not a fan of having
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: trees anywhere close to my house. whether that's in the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: front or anywhere close to it. I'm just not a
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: fan of it. So they might look beautiful, but I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: don't want them around where they can fall onto your property.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: So that's my words of wisdom with the big storm.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: So anyway, last night at 1230, we finally got our
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: power back, which was great because when they turned it
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: back on, I said the power's back, which means we
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: could run the air conditioning because it was like 78
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: or 80 degrees. And it's in the master bedroom at
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Verb Manor, which is a little warm. So there you go.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: A little tidbit of advice for all of you. Now
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: you can say, I'm not going to do that and
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: write it all off. And that's goofy. Don't do that.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Don't do that because you'll get caught again. There will
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: be more thunderstorms where you'll lose power and your sump
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: pump won't be working. And there could always be another
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: tornado or another situation. Well, I know my daughter and
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: brothers have them all down in Florida because of hurricanes.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: And so they're always prepared. Be prepared is what I'm saying.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: All right, and how about Ron DeSantis? I played that
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: the first hour because I just wanted you to hear
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: this guy's mentality. And how refreshing that mentality is versus
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: what you're hearing from your local politicians around here. Every
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: single one of them. Comments? We'll take some calls. You're
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: on the air.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: Hello? Yes.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: Big boy steam-driven train. What kind of fuel does it
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: run on?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: What kind of fuel? Fuel is what run on?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: The big boy steam engine train is supposed to be
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: running through Struthers today.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. How the hell would I know? I'm
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: not a train engineer.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 11: Hey, Ronnie, you mentioned all that insurance.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: You got life insurance?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 12: Well, your wife's pretty happy about that. Yeah, we don't
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 12: have sirens around here. I live out in the country, so.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Well, you should. Are you in Mahoning County?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you should. be able to hear them there. I mean,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: they got them throughout the county.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 12: I know, but I could hear the roar of the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 12: tornado coming before the siren.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 11: But my wife does have a shock.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 13: Collar for me, so.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you something. And kudos to
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: the people who fire up those sirens. I mean, those
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: sirens went off well beyond this tornado was coming towards.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: you know, our, our property or the effects of it
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: were coming towards us. I mean, they were going off when,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: when the very dark clouds were there and it hadn't
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: started yet. So kudos to them by firing them off.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: You can hear them, but I look at some people
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood that would just be like kind of
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: ignoring it. And I'm thinking that's a foolish thing to do.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: And you can hear them if you're out in the country,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: whether you're in Jackson township or wherever you might be.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 12: Well, um, I called you yesterday, and I did say
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 12: kudos to WKBN with their weather app. I got it
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 12: on my phone, so they alerted me.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: But don't rely on that. Don't rely on that because
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: cell towers fail. The siren is the best way as
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: opposed to just your phone, but your phone is there
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 11: Hey, DeSantis, what a great guy. I mean, just common sense,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 11: working for the people.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, what a great philosophy, isn't it? I mean,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: what a great philosophy. You don't hear that from Mike DeWine.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: You don't hear that from your county commissioners. You don't
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: hear that from anybody, any of these superintendents. All you
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: hear from them is, we need more of your money,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: you get the crumbs.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 11: Like you mentioned, the one guy that, you know, he
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 11: bought a house for $ 360, 000, now it's worth $ 800, 000.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: I told you yesterday, I.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 12: In 2020, my house was worth $ 219, 000. Now it's $ 380, 000.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 12: If I was looking to buy a house and it
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 12: was $ 419, 000 or whatever, I would say, you know what,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 12: I'm not going to buy that. That's going to affect
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 12: my purchasing. You know, I wouldn't buy that house because
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 12: I'm like, I'm not going to be able to pay
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 12: the taxes on that. So I buy a lesser house
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 12: And six years later, I'm paying taxes on a $ 400, 000 house. So, yeah, DeSantis,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 12: I like the way he's thinking.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, right now in Florida, as I say,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: the homestead exemption goes to everyone. It isn't age-based. It
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: isn't income-based. If you live there, you get the homestead exemption.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Which is significant. But he wants to totally eliminate property
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: taxes for residents of Florida. Totally eliminate them altogether. And
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: he's doing it by saying zero-based budgeting, lowering spending, putting
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: money back in your pocket, putting the taxpayer first, and
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: doing these initiatives. What you see there is skilled leadership.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: You don't see that by any of these people around here.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: You don't see a lick of that with the exception
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: of Dave Thomas.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 11: Right, and thank God at least you got some reprieve
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 11: from that. But I saw a lot of.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 12: Comments online where, you know, they say don't get mad
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 12: at your local people. But then I think it was
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 12: a boss lady mentioned Erie County, where even though the
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 12: state re-evaluates your home, you know, Erie County said, oh,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 12: we're not going to tax.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: You on that.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 11: So why doesn't Pony County do that? Why don't they
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 11: just keep the taxes the same?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Stand by for me. Hang in there for a minute.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: I'll get back to him. Excellent points. More to come.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Glad you tuned in. Ron Verb, NewsRadio 570, WKBN. Ron
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: Verb on NewsRadio 570, WKBN. We're back at it, 4.06
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: in the afternoon, NewsRadio 570, WKBN. And Ron Verb, it's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: 85 degrees humid out there on this Tuesday, July 7th.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: By the way, here's an update. As I said, we
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: over at Furb Banner took the brunt of the tornado.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: I survived the tornado. This was on Sunday as it
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: came into Austintown. I mean, I was looking right out
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: the front window. And incidentally, kudos, the sirens are fantastic.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why some people, I would look out
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: and see some people kind of like, what? What's that
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: all about? I mean, they only test them Saturday at noon.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: When you hear that siren go off, pay attention to it.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: So you would hear the tornado siren go off. Then
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: you heard it go off again. And, hey, it's telling you,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: look what's coming. Look what's coming. It isn't here right now,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: but it's coming. And you could see this dark cloud,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: this dark wall coming my way. And then it went
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: from calm to just unbelievable buckets of rain that were
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: coming down, just buckets of rain that were coming down.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Just incredible. the amount of rain, and then the winds.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: So you had the rain like a fire hose was
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: shooting at your house, then the winds, and then the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: power goes out. But as I said, you know, we
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: have a generator, kind of a pull start, one of those.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: So once it passed, we made sure we plugged that
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: in outside the house. There's a plug for it. And
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: so that your sump pump would run so your basement
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't flood. That's why you have a generator. As I said,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: when I got married to my wife, my father-in-law was
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: an electrician, God rest his soul, who told me if
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: you've got a sump pump, you better own a generator.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: And I share that advice with each and every one
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: of you as we review all this weather situation that
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: we've had and those of you that have flooded basements.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: So that's what he said, my father-in-law, the electrician. If
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: you have a sump pump, you better own a generator.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Because when does your power usually go off? During a thunderstorm,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: during a rain event. So when Verb Manor was established
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: in 1996, when we built it and there was a
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: sump pump, One of the first purchases I made was
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: a generator. And wanted to make sure that, and sure enough,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: it has paid off time and time again. I don't
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: care if it sits in a– it's one of those
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: things that you put it in your garage, but you
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: better get it out every few months and start it.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Make sure you put in– like in ours, I'll just
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: tell you, we put in what they call recreational fuel.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have any of the ethanol in it. It's
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: just pure gas, if you will. You pay more for
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: it per gallon. You see it. They sell it at
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Meyers and Country Fair and this kind of stuff. You
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: don't have any of the– the, what is it, ethanol
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: in it, 10% ethanol, none of that kind of stuff.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: So that gas lasts longer and it doesn't have all
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: that other crap in it. So it costs more, but
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: we always fill our generator with that. And you can
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: put stable in it as well, in addition to that.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: So that way the gas doesn't turn bad. So you
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: have gas in it. And if you own a generator,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: you bring it out every month or two and you
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: start it Make sure it runs so that when you
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: need it, the carburetor isn't gummed up or it doesn't
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: start or you need a new spark plug. Well, it's
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: a little late then when you need it. So you
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: got to kind of give it some attention every month
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: or two. Let's even say every two months you give
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: it some attention. Make sure the thing runs so when
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: you do need it, it functions. So needless to say,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I listened to my father-in-law. We had a generator.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: So consequently, when a storm passed and the power was out, boom,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: we didn't have to worry about a flooded basement because
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: our sump pump was functioning because of the generator. And incidentally,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: another thing, always have a spare sump pump because if
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: yours goes and at night and the store is closed,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: you're screwed. Always have a spare one. Invest in having
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: a spare one standing by so that they're pretty easy
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: to swap out if you got a lot of rain
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: coming in or getting somebody to do it for you
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: if you're unable to do it. But you better have
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: a sump pump there to put in. And if you
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: have the same kind that's in there, it's really easy
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: to do. So consequently, so we were, let's see, that'd
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: be four o'clock So we were running our generator from
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: four o'clock Sunday till last night at 1230. They finally
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: restored our power at 1230 last night. So what's that 30,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: not quite 48 hours, about 36, 37, 38 hours. You know,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: the thing runs continuously. And during that time, also what
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: this generator does, and it's stuff for you to think about,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: you know, in our house, it's, it's, it's wired. So it's,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: It takes care of the freezers, the refrigerator. You know,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: we have a refrigerator in the garage, refrigerator in the house.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: We've got a couple of freezers. And it takes care
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: of that. It takes care of making sure there's power
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: to your garage, to your garage door. If my wife
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: hits the garage door opener, it'll open and close. And
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: lights in your house. It comes with that kind of stuff.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: So you got to think it through. I think if
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: you get a whole house, one like Mike Craig sells
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: even better. I mean, if you if you get one
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: of those deals that runs on natural gas but even
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: if you get a one like mike talks about a
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: generator specialist they have a program they come out every
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: year in service it change you want to make sure
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: the battery's okay and you better you better subscribe to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: that so when you need it it's there to function
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: because if you don't maintain it when you need it
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: it's not going to turn on what's the point But
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't have one of those. But like I say,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: I got a gas one. But the outside, the house
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: was wired so that there's a plug on the outside.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: You plug it in. You can pick eight circuits that
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: you can fire up. And there's a transfer switch inside. And,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: you know, you can run your refrigerator. You're not worried
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: about your food spoiling or your freezer or your garage
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: door being able to open or lights in your house.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: And it also goes to the furnace. Now, in the wintertime,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: it can provide heat. But it doesn't provide air conditioning,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: which I might work on that. There's a thing called
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: a micro air. My brother has down in Florida. You
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: add it to your air conditioning units and and it
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't get that initial big power surge to turn on.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: And your generator can cover that. Because it was miserable
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: without air conditioning. But needless to say, I mean, it's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: something to think about. It's like insurance. You buy it,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: you never want to use it. I have car insurance.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: I never bitch if I never use it. Because it
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: means I haven't gotten in accidents. I have health insurance.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: I don't bitch if I never use it. It means
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: I haven't been sick. So insurance is one of those
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: things you have that you don't want to use that
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: you pay for. Well, a generator is one of those
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: things that you have and you hope you never need,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: but you're damn glad it's there and you maintain it.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: And like I say, get a spare sump pump, too.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: So if yours goes, you have one that you can
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: throw in there. It has saved my hide numerous times,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: both having a spare sump pump and having a generator.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that right now. I feel sorry
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: for these people who didn't do that. They get a
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: foot of water or more in their basement. Next thing
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: you know, your furnace is shot. because of the electronics,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: your washer, dryer, all this stuff, your hot water tank, whatever,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: is all shot in your basement because you didn't prepare
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: for these storms. And I don't mean just the tornado
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: that we've all been through this time, depending where you live,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: but also you can have any type of major thunderstorm
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: and thunder and lightning to take out your electricity supply.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: So what do they say? Let's learn from these experiences.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: So I pass along just the wisdom that I got
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: over the years, as I say, from my father-in-law. If
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: you've got a sump pump in your basement, you damn
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: well better have a generator. And if you have a generator,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: you better make sure it runs every couple months. Don't
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: put it in the garage and forget about it because
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: when you need it, it's not going to start. You
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: better put the right gas in it, the stabilizer in it,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: and keep running it every month or two to make
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: sure it works when you need it. But those people
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: who didn't do that and watch your basement fill with water,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: at the very least, you could always have a battery
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: backup sump pump tube. Now, that might not keep up
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: for a while, but you've got to be able to
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: recharge your battery after a period of time. Just some
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: thoughts that we should learn from all of this kind
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: of stuff, that we should absolutely learn from it. I'm
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: not a fan of having trees anywhere close to my house.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: whether that's in the front or anywhere close to it.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just not a fan of it. So they might
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: look beautiful, but I don't want them around where they
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: can fall onto your property. So that's my words of
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: wisdom with the big storm. So anyway, last night at 1230,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: we finally got our power back, which was great because
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: when they turned it back on, my wife said the
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: power's back, which means we could run the air conditioning
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: because it was like 78 or 80 degrees. And it's
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: in the master bedroom at Verb Manor, which is a
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: little warm. So there you go. A little tidbit of
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: advice for all of you. Now you can say, I'm
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: not going to do that and write it all off.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: And that's goofy. Don't do that. Don't do that because
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: you'll get caught again. There will be more thunderstorms where
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: you'll lose power and your sump pump won't be working.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: And there could always be another tornado or another situation. Well,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I know my daughter and brothers have them all down
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: in Florida because of hurricanes. And so they're always prepared.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Be prepared is what I'm saying.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: And how about Ron DeSantis? I played that the first
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: hour because I just wanted you to hear this guy's mentality.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: And how refreshing that mentality is versus what you're hearing
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: from your local politicians around here. Every single one of them. Comments?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: We'll take some calls. You're on the air.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 7: Hello?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: Big boy steam-driven train. What kind of fuel does it
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 7: run on?
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: What kind of fuel does what run on?
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: The big boy steam engine train is supposed to be
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: running through Struthers today.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. How the hell would I know? I'm
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: not a train engineer.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 7: You're on the air.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 11: Hey, Ronnie, you mentioned all that insurance.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: You got life insurance?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 12: Well, your wife's pretty happy about that. Yeah, we don't
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 12: have sirens around here. I live out in the country.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Well, you should. Are you in Mahoning County?
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you should be able to hear them. I mean,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: they got them throughout the county.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 12: I know, but I could hear the roar of the
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 12: tornado coming before the siren.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 11: But my wife does have a shock collar for me.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you something. And kudos to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the people who fire up those sirens. I mean, those
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: sirens went off well beyond this tornado was coming towards us.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: you know, our, our property or the effects of it
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: were coming towards us. I mean, they were going off when,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: when the very dark clouds were there and it hadn't
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: started yet. So kudos to them by firing them off.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: You can hear them. But I look at some people
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood that would just be like kind of
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: ignoring it. And I'm thinking that's a foolish thing to do.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: And you can hear them if you're out in the country,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: whether you're in Jackson township or wherever you might be.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 12: Well, um, Yeah, I called you yesterday, and I did
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 12: say kudos to WKBN with their weather app. I got
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 12: it on my phone, you know, so they alerted me.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: But don't rely on that. Don't rely on that because
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: cell towers fail. The siren is the best way as
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: opposed to just your phone. But your phone is there
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 11: Hey, DeSantis, though, what a great guy, huh? I mean,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 11: just common sense, working for the people.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, what a great philosophy, isn't it? I mean,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: what a great philosophy. You don't hear that from Mike DeWine.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: You don't hear that from your county commissioners. You don't
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: hear that from anybody, any of these superintendents. All you
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: hear from them is, we need more of your money.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: You get the crumbs.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 11: Like you mentioned, the one guy that, you know, he
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 11: bought a house for $ 360, 000. Now it's worth $ 800, 000.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 11: I told you yesterday, I... in two thousand uh..
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 12: Twenty my house is worth two hundred nineteen thousand out
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 12: three hundred eighty thousand if if i was looking to
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 12: buy a house and it was four hundred nineteen thousand
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 12: or whatever i would think you know what i'm not
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 12: gonna buy that that that affect my purchasing uh..
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 6: Uh..
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 12: You know how i wouldn't buy that happened i'm not
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 12: gonna be able to pay the taxes on it so
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 12: i i buy a lot lesser house And six years later,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 12: I'm paying taxes on.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 11: A $ 400, 000 house. So, yeah, DeSantis, I like the way
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 11: he's thinking.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, right now in Florida, as I say,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: the homestead exemption goes to everyone. It isn't age-based. It
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: isn't income-based. If you live there, you get the homestead exemption,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: which is significant. But he wants to totally eliminate property
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: taxes for residents of Florida, totally eliminate them altogether. And
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: he's doing it by saying zero-based budgeting, lowering spending, putting
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: money back in your pocket, putting the taxpayer first. and
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: doing these initiatives. What you see there is skilled leadership.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: You don't see that by any of these people around here.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: You don't see a lick of that with the exception
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: of Dave Thomas.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 11: And thank God at least he got some reprieve from that.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 11: But I saw a lot.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 12: Of comments online where, you know, they say don't get
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 12: mad at your local people. But then I think it
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 12: was the boss lady said, mentioned Erie, Erie County, where
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 12: even though the state re-evaluates your home, you know, Erie
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 12: County said, oh, we're not going to tax.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 6: You on that. Right.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 11: So why does Honing County do that? Why don't they
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 11: just keep the taxes the same?
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: Stand by for me. Hang in there for a minute.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I'll get back to him. Excellent points. More to come.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Glad you tuned in. Ron Furb, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Ron
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Ah, yes. Thank you, Brad Marshall.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: 435 NewsRadio 570. My therapy session is now done. 435
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: here in the afternoon with you till 6 tonight. You're
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: on the air.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 13: Ron, how you doing?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for calling. Go ahead.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 13: Yes, sir. Hey, I wanted to talk or I got
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 13: a comment about the. What's that guy's name up in Maine?
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 13: Just Platner.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 13: Graham Platner.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 13: I assume you've been following it. I haven't been listening
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 13: to your show.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: The guy with the Nazi tattoo and the nipple that
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: I've seen more than my first year of. You think
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: he's going to drop out or not?
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: Oh, I do.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I do.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 13: I mean, rape's a pretty serious allegation.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought I was reading here where... We shall see.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's... I thought he said he wasn't going to,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: but who knows?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 13: I haven't been at work all day, so I haven't really.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Followed it throughout the day. What kind of a candidate
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: is he to begin with? I mean, is that the
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: best candidate you can have? I mean, some of these
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: candidates they're coming up with are just god-awful.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 13: Like who else?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Some of the ones that have been winning in the
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Democrat primary that are what they call Democrat socialists that
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: talk about how we deserve September 11th. I mean, just
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: some of this craziness that you hear from some of these.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe them. Democrats, socialists
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: that seem like they hate the United States of America.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: So here's what you're saying.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 13: Those would be like just FDR liberals is what those are.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: It's strange. A bombshell rape allegation has thrown Maine Senate
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: candidate Graham Plattner's campaign into turmoil with some of his
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: most progressive supporters in Congress jumping ship as his bid
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: for the Senate unravels. Senator Bernie Sanders, who championed Plattner's.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: campaign amid a bunch of scandals, called on the Senate
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: hopeful to exit the race on Tuesday after Maine residents
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Jenny Racketcoat, 41, accused him of rape in an interview
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: with Politico and CNN. Sanders said in a written statement
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: that he had spoken with Plattner about the rape allegation
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: and recommended that he step aside. The leading progressive decision
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: to effectively disavow Plattner marks the latest blow to the
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: once ascending Democrat floundering campaign, leaving him with virtually no
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: remaining support for the movements that fueled his populist bid
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: against Senator Susan Collins. Let's see, what else does it say?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 13: I do think that likely, if he didn't drop out,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 13: he'd likely still win. I think he would get over
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 13: that scandal. You know, just like Trump's gotten over all
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 13: those scandals. Like, that's the one thing you got to
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 13: learn is you can't, like, give in to the other side.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Trump was never accused of rape, though.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Other leading leftists, including Elizabeth... What do you mean?
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 13: What do you mean he wasn't accused of rape?
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: He was never accused of rape. He was accused of
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: sexual assault by a woman that said that he sexually
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: assaulted her. That is not rape. In a dressing room
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: in a department store. Yet she didn't scream, and she
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: didn't call the police, and any of that stuff. But
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: let me go on here. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Ro Khanna...
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: quickly rescinded their endorsement of Platner and called on him
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: to exit the race. Another one-time supporter, Chris Van Hollen,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: let's see, urging Platner to suspend his campaign. These allegations
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: are serious and cannot be ignored. Graham Platner should step aside.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: But here's one other thing, and I'm somewhat curious about this.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: What if they're not true? What if the allegations are false?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 13: Well, hey, that's the conservative playbook there, yeah. Don't believe
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 13: the allegation.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: This guy is not a conservative, but I'm saying you
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: can see people say things that might not be true
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: for the purposes of politics. We've seen it time and
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: time again. Like they did with Trump, I guess. Yeah,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: with Trump. Or we can go with the Supreme Court
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: guy or any number of cases that we have. How
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: do I know that this is true? I mean, these
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: are allegations. Where's the proof?
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 13: My opinion is I agree with the Democrats telling him
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 13: to rescind his, you know, he should drop out because
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 13: it's obvious that he's got a problem with it. I mean,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 13: he's a former, you know, what, a military guy, a Marine?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 13: I don't remember if he's a Marine. He's a former Blackwater,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 13: you know, security officer. Like, I mean, that's what.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: Those guys do.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 13: Like, it's pretty crazy to, you know, put the cart,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 13: you know, tie... you know, any democratic success, success to
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 13: somebody like that guy.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he should have probably dropped out once
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: he had the Nazi tattoo on his chest and some
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that, uh, that he had said. I
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: thought that's when it was amazing to me that he was, uh,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: even considered to be one of their candidates. I think
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: the issue should have eliminated him, but it did not.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: He won the primary and, uh, Well.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 13: I mean, he is way better on the issues than Collins.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 13: I mean, if anybody in Maine is voting for Collins, like,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 13: that's absolutely insane. She's so old she can't even– she's got, like,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 13: a tremor in her voice where she can't even talk. Like,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 13: it's absolutely insane that people would vote for her. But
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 13: I wanted to go back and say, like, actually Trump
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 13: is credibly accused of rape. You know, he's credibly accused
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 13: of sexual abuse against minors. you know i don't know
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 13: if you know that there's this girl called maria farmer
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 13: she's in the epstein files she piled uh... three did
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 13: three interviews with the fbi uh... describing our experience with
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 13: jeffrey epstein and donald trump they decided not to prosecutor
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 13: but those would seem to be much more credible evidence
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 13: then basically anything you hear about graham plattner or you
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 13: know any of these other sexual assault allegations that maria
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 13: farmer girl.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: She was uh..
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 13: Fourteen When it happened to her, she told her mom.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 13: They called the authorities. They opened a case right away.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 13: But it basically went away. She was threatened. She ended
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 13: up having to drop her lawsuit around the time of
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 13: Epstein's death because she was getting death threats and things
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 13: like that. I just think you guys should kind of
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 13: look into what the allegations are against Trump and just
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 13: kind of take it a little more seriously.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll get right on that. I mean, I'm
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: glad you gave us advice on what we should do
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Trump. I'm really, we'll get on
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: it right away. Thanks. Okay, so heed his advice. What
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: was that? Is that a weird or what? You're on
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: the air.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: Hi, Ron.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 14: Hi.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: I heard it a little late.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: Wait a second. Wait a second. It's the one and
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: only Bob Dieter, Dieter Heating and Cooling. Hey, let me
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: ask you a question before you talk about generation, what
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: you were going to talk about. So what about these
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: people that get a significant amount of water in their basements,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: and the water, if it gets up so high, doesn't
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: that destroy the furnace because of the circuit boards and
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in there?
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So in general... manufacturers across the board, be it
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: water tanks or furnaces, if they say it was submerged,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: so that would be on your water tank. So if
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: it's up above the gas valve and or even the
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: pilot and burner area, they recommend you replace it. The
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: new water heaters have volatile vapor sensors in the bottom
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: of them. And if you flood them out, typically you're
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: going to lose that. It's a little capsule like you
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: see in a sprinkler head. little red glass capsule. If
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 5: those blow, it will not relight. I had one call yesterday,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: had a power venter, and the power vent tanks have
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 5: a little white sensor right underneath the main burner tube,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: and if that gets wet, it will not allow it
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: to come back, and you have to dry it out thoroughly,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: and then you can probably reinsert it, and it will
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: probably reset and take off again. Furnaces, if it gets up,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 5: To the level of the motherboard in the bottom of
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: the furnace, which probably six, eight inches up on the furnace,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: the board's going to be shot. If it hits the motor,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 5: the motor's shot. If it gets up, say, gas valve area,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: the manufacturer's going to tell you to replace the furnace.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: And ideally, although we've slipped them through in the past,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: The parts are not warranty because they're not manufactured defect. And,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: you know, nowadays we're looking at $ 1, 000, $ 1, 200 for an
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: ECM blower motor, $ 500 to $ 1, 000 on the control boards.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: Anything that got wet, even though it may work after
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: it dries out, they recommend you throw it out because
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 5: you may have affected the circuits long-term. and it may
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: affect the safety operation of the furnace. If the gas
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: valve gets wet, it's junk. Don't even try. And then
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: if you've got water up burner height, you're going to
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: have water in the manifold, you're going to have water
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: in the burners. You can have all kinds of problems.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but for the most part, I'm thinking, you know,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: if you, let's say you get six inches to a
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: foot of water in your basement, some people would have...
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: Your motor's shot at $ 1, 200, the board's shot. Basically, at
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: that point, it's garbage. Would you not say by the
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: time you would try to fix it and it's iffy
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: with those parts, you might as well replace the whole thing?
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: You can afford it. Well, yeah. Do you know if
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: people that have homeowner's insurance, is that usually an argument
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: or do the homeowners say, okay, well..
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: Well, they're going to have their deductibles.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, if I could fix it for $ 1, 000
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: and you have $ 1, 000 deductible, it's probably not worth raising
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: your insurance rates. But I can tell you some years
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: back here in Canfield... we had a furnace that was
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 5: not four weeks old. And the water level, and it
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: was grayish black water with floaties. It was four and
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: a half feet deep.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: Well, then it's totally shot.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: So it was junk. It was tossed.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: Here's my next question on it. I wonder, like, for example,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: people that have water in their basements, And you have,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: let's say, your washers down there for a lot of people,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: washer and dryer, your furnace, and you might even have
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: a refrigerator. And that stuff is plugged in. And when
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: they put the power back on, it's not a good
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: idea to go stepping down into that water. I mean,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: most of that stuff is going to throw the circuit
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: breaker or arc out once the power comes back on. Yeah.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: Not necessarily because most of those are not on GFIs
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: or arc faults. You know, if it was a GFI circuit, absolutely,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: it would go down instantly.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: You don't think the circuit breaker would blow?
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 5: Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no. I've seen it. You know, if
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 5: you remember the Federal Pacific or what we call stab
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: lock breaker panels, I've heard those sizzle where you could
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 5: hear the breaker sizzle and it wouldn't trip.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: In other words, you should be very cautious of stepping,
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: once your power comes back on, of going down and
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: stepping into the wet basement. Would you not agree?
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, I can tell you I've touched ductwork
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 5: and gotten nailed because they had a bad ground or
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 5: something like that, and it was using the ductwork as
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: a ground.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, just for the sake of this
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: particular situation that so many people are in, a little
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: news you can use. I mean, if your basement has
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: six inches or a foot of water in it and
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: it still has it in there and your power gets restored,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: don't go walking into your basement stepping into that water
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: because you could, theoretically, there's a possibility of getting electrocuted.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a washer there that's plugged
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: in or a refrigerator or even your furnace, which is
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: obviously using electricity.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you have someone with the skill, I personally,
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of times, if you can't get to the
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 5: main panel, I would unplug the meter so you're absolutely
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 5: assured there's no inbound power to the house. Now, you're
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 5: going to need someone with some skill to do that,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 5: but that sure beats being electrocuted.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 16: Well, right.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: But for the sake of– there's so many people out
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: there that just do so many stupid things that's going
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: on right now. I just don't want them to– hey,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: the power's back on. I'm going to go down and
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: see where– don't step in that water, man. Most of
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: that stuff is shot. Don't go down there and call–
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Call Dieter. Call someone to
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: figure out what to do next.
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  Speaker 5: Someone with some level of expertise, because, you know, I
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 5: don't want to see anyone hurt at the bottom line.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, the reason for the call, not to change gears
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 5: on you.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You were talking about generators. Yes. Anything that you connect
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 5: to a generator that has high-quality circuits, microprocessors, my furnaces.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Your furnace at home.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Microwaves, stoves, refrigerators, all this garbage anymore. It's got a motherboard,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: it's got a digital readout, your cell, not your cell phones,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 5: but say if you have wireless phones in the house, computers,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: oh my god, computers, TVs, all those things. You do
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 5: not want to connect any of those to the standard
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 5: You know, that the home contractor uses to run his
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 5: saws and things like that.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: And that's why... Hey, Bob, are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 1: Are you sitting down?
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  Speaker 5: I am.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Dieter, because this is where I'm going to shine.
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  Speaker 1: That's why over at Verb Manor we have an inverter generator,
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: which means it's clean power. We don't use the standard
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: generator that you're talking about. It's called an inverter. It's
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: a gas generator, but it's clean power, clean sine wave.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: It has to have a clean sine wave to it.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: But you're giving great advice there. You should get– they're
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: more expensive. I mean, I'll just tell you, I got
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: mine at Harbor Freight. The Predator generator is a really
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: good generator, and you can get a decent one. Serious
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: power for $ 1, 800, $ 2, 000, or whatever. Well, if all.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 5: You're worried about is, say, your freezer and your fridge
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 5: in the basement, maybe the sump pump, a Predator you
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 5: can get it for in a $ 500 to $ 700 price point.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: especially when they're on sale.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the 3,500-watt one that is very quiet, too. You
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: get the more expensive one, it's quiet.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 5: And then some of those, like the Hondas, because I've
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 5: dealt with the Hondas on a job up in Montana,
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  Speaker 5: you can plug two of them together and get 220
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 5: and double the amperage.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And they'll run all day on one tank of fuel.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: The inverter, yeah, the new ones... It's amazing how energy efficient,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: because they kind of idle down when there isn't a draw.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: But the big deal is, you know, in my own house,
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  Speaker 5: I was stupid 20 years ago, and I have a
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 5: subpanel that is for a generator, so I have the
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 5: manual switch on it.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: Me too.
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  Speaker 5: And anyways, fired up my contractor generator. Oh, my God.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: And blew up my computers.
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  Speaker 1: And shouldn't you know better?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I didn't at the time. I didn't know those
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 5: circuits were tied in.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, let me ask you this. Did they even have–
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: stand by, Bob. Did they even have inverter generators back then, old-timer?
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Dieter. Back with Dieter in a minute.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: Here's an opportunity for you. Flint's Tire is currently– Ah, yes.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Brad Marshall. 435 Newsradio 570. My therapy session
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: is now done. 4.35 here in the afternoon with you
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: till 6 tonight. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 13: Ron, how you doing?
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for calling. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 13: Hey, I wanted to talk, or I got a comment
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 13: about the... What's that guy's name up in Maine?
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 13: Just Platner.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Graham Platner.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 13: I assume you've been following him. I haven't been listening
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  Speaker 13: to your show, but..
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  Speaker 1: The guy with the Nazi tattoo and the nipple that
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: I've seen more than my first year of. You think
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  Speaker 1: he's going to drop out or not?
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, I do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, rape's a pretty serious allegation.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was reading here where... We shall see.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's... I thought he said he wasn't going to,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: but who knows. Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 13: I haven't been at work all day, so I haven't
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 13: really followed.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: It throughout the day. What kind of a candidate is
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: he to begin with? I mean, is that the best
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: candidate you can have? I mean, some of these candidates
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: they're coming up with are just god-awful.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 13: Like who else?
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Some of the ones that have been winning in the
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: Democrat primary that are what they call Democrat socialists that
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: talk about how we deserved September 11th. I mean, just
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: some of this craziness that you hear from some of these.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe them. Democrats, socialists
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: that seem like they hate the United States of America.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: So here's what you're saying.
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  Speaker 13: Those would be just FDR liberals is what those are.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: It's strange. A bombshell rape allegation has thrown... Maine Senate
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: candidate Graham Plattner's campaign into turmoil with some of his
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: most progressive supporters in Congress jumping ship as his bid
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: for the Senate unravels. Senator Bernie Sanders, who championed Plattner's
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: campaign amid a bunch of scandals, called on the Senate
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  Speaker 1: hopeful to exit the race on Tuesday after Maine residents
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  Speaker 1: Jenny Racketcoat, 41, accused him of rape in an interview
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  Speaker 1: with Political and CNN. Sanders said in a written statement
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  Speaker 1: that he had spoken with Plattner about the rape allegation
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: and recommended that he step aside. The leading progressive decision
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: to effectively disavow Plattner marks the latest blow to the
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: once ascending Democrat floundering campaign, leaving him with virtually no
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: remaining support for the movements that fueled his populist bid
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: against Senator Susan Collins. Let's see, what else does it say?
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  Speaker 13: I do think that likely if he didn't drop out,
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 13: he'd likely still win. I think he would get over
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 13: that scandal. You know, just like Trump's gotten over all
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 13: those scandals. That's the one thing you've got to learn
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 13: is you can't give in to the other side.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Trump was never accused of rape, though.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: Other leading leftists, including Elizabeth... What do you mean?
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 13: What do you mean he wasn't accused of rape?
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: He was never accused of rape. He was accused of
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: sexual assault by a woman that said that he sexually
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: assaulted her. That is not rape. In a dressing room
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: in a department store. Yet she didn't scream, and she
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: didn't call the police, and any of that stuff. But
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: let me go on here. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Ro Khanna...
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: quickly resented their endorsement of Platner and called on him
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: to exit the race. Another one-time supporter, Chris Van Hollen,
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: let's see, urging Platner to suspend his campaign. These allegations
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: are serious and cannot be ignored. Graham Platner should step aside.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: But here's one other thing, and I'm somewhat curious about this.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: What if they're not true? What if the allegations are false?
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 13: Oh, hey, that's the conservative playbook there, yeah. Yeah, don't
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 13: believe the allegation.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: This guy is not a conservative, but I'm saying you
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: can see people say things that might not be true
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: for the purposes of politics. We've seen it time and
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: time again.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 13: Yeah, like they did with Trump, I guess.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with Trump. Or we can go with the Supreme
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: Court guy or any number of cases that we have.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: How do I know that this is true? I mean,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: these are allegations. Where's the proof?
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  Speaker 13: You know, my opinion is I agree with the Democrats
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 13: telling him to rescind his, you know, he should drop
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 13: out because it's obvious that he's got a problem with it.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 13: I mean, he's a former Marine. You know what? A
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 13: military guy, Marine. I don't remember if he's a Marine.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 13: He's a former Blackwater Marine. security officer. I mean, that's
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 13: what those guys do. It's pretty crazy to tie any
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 13: Democratic success to somebody like that guy.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he should have probably dropped out once
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: he had the Nazi tattoo on his chest and some
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that he had said. I thought that's
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: when it was amazing to me that he was... even
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: considered to be one of their candidates, I think the
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: issue should have eliminated him. But it did not. He
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: won the primary. Well, I mean.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 13: He is way better on the issues than Collins. I mean,
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 13: if anybody in Maine is voting for Collins, like, that's
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 13: absolutely insane. She's so old, she can't even, she's got
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 13: like a tremor in her voice where she can't even talk. Like,
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 13: it's absolutely insane that people would vote for her. But
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 13: I wanted to go back and say, actually, Trump is
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  Speaker 13: credibly accused of rape. He's credibly accused of sexual abuse
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 13: against minors. I don't know if you know that. There's
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 13: this girl called Maria Farmer. She's in the Epstein files.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 13: She did three interviews with the FBI describing her experience
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 13: with Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. They decided not to
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 13: prosecute her, but those would seem to be much more
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 13: credible evidence then basically anything you hear about Graham Plattner or,
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 13: you know, any of these other sexual assault allegations. Now,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 13: Maria Farmer, girl, she was 14. When it happened to her,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 13: she told her mom. They called the authorities. They opened
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 13: a case right away. But it basically went away. You know,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 13: she was threatened. She ended up having to drop her
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 13: lawsuit during, you know, around the time of Epstein's death
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 13: because she was getting death threats and things like that.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 13: You know, I just think you guys could... you guys
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 13: should kind of look into what the allegations are against
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 13: Trump and just kind of take a little more seriously.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 15: Okay.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get, we'll get right on that. I mean,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you gave us advice on, on what we
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: should do when it comes to Trump. I'm really, we'll
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: get on it right away.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. So he, his advice. What was that? It's not,
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: it's not that a weird or what you're.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 5: On the air. Hi, Ron.
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  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 16: Hi, Bob.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: You're getting a little late.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 5: Wait a second.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: Wait a second. It's the one and only Bob Dieter,
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: Dieter Heating and Cooling. Hey, let me ask you a
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: question before you talk about generation, what you were going
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: to talk about. So what about these people that get
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: a significant amount of water in their basements, and the water,
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: if it gets up so high, doesn't that destroy the
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: furnace because of the circuit boards and that kind of
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: stuff in there?
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So in general, manufacturers across the board, be it
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 5: water tanks or furnaces, if they say it was submerged,
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 5: so that would be on your water tank. So if
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 5: it's up above the gas valve and or even the
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 5: pilot and burner area, they recommend you replace it. The
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 5: new water heaters have volatile vapor sensors in the bottom
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 5: of them. And if you flood them out, typically you're
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 5: going to lose that. It's a little capsule like you
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 5: see in a sprinkler head, a little red glass capsule.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 5: If those blow, it will not relight. I had one
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 5: call yesterday, had a power venter, and the power vent
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 5: tanks have a little white sensor right underneath the main
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 5: burner tube, and if that gets wet, it will not
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 5: allow it to come back, and you have to dry
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 5: it out thoroughly, and then you can probably reinsert it,
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 5: and it will probably reset and take off again. Furnaces,
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 5: if it gets up to the level of the motherboard
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 5: in the bottom of the furnace, which probably six, eight
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 5: inches up on the furnace, the board's going to be shot.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 5: If it hits the motor, the motor's shot. If it
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 5: gets up say, gas valve area, the manufacturer's going to
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 5: tell you to replace the furnace. And ideally, although we've
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 5: slipped them through in the past, the parts are not
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 5: warranty because they're not manufactured defect. And, you know, nowadays
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 5: we're looking at $ 1, 200 for an ECM blower motor, $ 500
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 5: to $ 1, 000 on the control boards. Anything that got wet
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 5: Even though it may work after it dries out, they
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 5: recommend you throw it out because you may have affected
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 5: the circuits long term, and it may affect the safety
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 5: operation of the furnace. If the gas valve gets wet,
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 5: it's junk. Don't even try. And then if you've got
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: water up burner height, you're going to have water in
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: the manifold. You're going to have water in the burners.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 5: you can have all kinds of problems.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but for the most part, I'm thinking, you know,
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: let's say you get six inches to a foot of
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: water in your basement, some people would have, that's going to,
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: your motor's shot at $ 1, 200, the board's shot. Basically, at
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: that point, it's garbage. Would you not say by the
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: time you would try to fix it and it's iffy
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: with those parts, you might as well replace the whole thing?
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: You could afford it. Do you know if people that
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: have homeowners insurance, is that usually an argument or do
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: the homeowners say, okay, well..
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 5: Well, they're going to have their deductibles.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, if I could fix it for $ 1, 000
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 5: and you have $ 1, 000 deductible, it's probably not worth raising
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 5: your insurance rates. But I can tell you some years
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 5: back here in Canfield... we had a furnace that was
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 5: not four weeks old. And the water level, and it
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: was grayish black water with loadies. It was four and
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 5: a half feet deep.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: Well, then it's totally shot.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 5: So it was junk. It was tossed.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: Here's my next question on it. I wonder, like, for example,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: people that have water in their basements, And you have,
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: let's say, your washers down there for a lot of people,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: washer and dryer, your furnace, and you might even have
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: a refrigerator. And that stuff is plugged in. And when
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: they put the power back on, it's not a good
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: idea to go stepping down into that water. I mean,
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: most of that stuff is going to throw the circuit
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: breaker or arc out once the power comes back on.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 5: Not necessarily because most of those are not on GFIs
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 5: or arc faults. You know, if it was a GFI circuit, absolutely,
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 5: it would go down instantly.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: You don't think the circuit breaker would blow?
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 5: Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no. I've seen it. You know, if
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 5: you remember the Federal Pacific or what we call stab
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 5: lock breaker panels, I've heard those sizzle where you could
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 5: hear the breaker sizzle and it wouldn't trip.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: In other words, you should be very cautious of stepping,
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: once your power comes back on, of going down and
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: stepping into the wet basement. Would you not agree?
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, I can tell you I've touched ductwork
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 5: and gotten nailed because they had a bad ground or
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 5: something like that, and it was using the ductwork as
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 5: a ground.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, just for the sake of this
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: particular situation that so many people are in... a little
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: news you can use. I mean, if your basement has
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: six inches or a foot of water in it, and
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: it still has it in there, and your power gets restored,
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: don't go walking into your basement, stepping into that water,
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: because you could theoretically... there's a possibility of getting electrocuted.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a washer there that's plugged
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: in or a refrigerator or even your furnace, which is
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: obviously using electricity.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you have someone with the skill, I personally,
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 5: a lot of times, if you can't get to the
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 5: main panel, I would unplug the meter so you're absolutely
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 5: assured there's no inbound power to the house. Now, you're
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 5: going to need someone with some skill to do that,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 5: but that sure beats being electrocuted.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: Well, right. But for the sake of– there's so many
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: people out there that just do so many stupid things
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: that's going on right now. I just don't want them to– hey,
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: the power's back on. I'm going to go down and
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: see where– don't step in that water, man. Most of
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: that stuff is shot. Don't go down there and call–
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Call Dieter. Call someone to
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: figure out what to do next.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 5: Someone with some level of expertise, because, you know, I
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 5: don't want to see anyone hurt at the bottom line.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 5: Anyway, the reason for the call, not to change gears
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 5: on you.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 5: You were talking about generators.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 5: Anything that you connect to a generator that has high-quality circuits, microprocessors,
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 5: my furnaces.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 5: Your furnace at home.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 5: Microwaves stoves refrigerators all this garbage anymore it's got a
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 5: motherboard it's got a digital readout uh yourself not your
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 5: cell phones but say if you have wireless phones in
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 5: the house um computers oh my god computers tvs all
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 5: those things you do not want to connect any of
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 5: those to the standard You know, that the home contractor
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 5: uses to run his saws and things like that.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: And that's why... Hey, Bob, are you ready for this?
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: Are you sitting down?
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Dieter, because this is where I'm going to shine.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: That's why over at Verb Manor we have an inverter generator,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: which means it's clean power. We don't use the standard
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: generator that you're talking about. It's called an inverter. It's
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: a gas generator. But it's clean power, clean sine wave.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 5: Right. It has to have a clean sine wave to it.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: But you're giving great advice there. You should get– they're
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: more expensive. I mean, I'll just tell you, I got
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: mine at Harbor Freight. The Predator generator is a really
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: good generator, and you can get a decent one. Serious
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: power for $ 1, 800, $ 2, 000, or whatever.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 5: Well, if all you're worried about is, say, your freezer
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 5: and your fridge in the basement, maybe the sump pump,
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 5: A Predator, you can get it for in a $ 500
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 5: to $ 700 price point, especially when they're on sale.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the 3,500-watt one that is very quiet, too. You
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: get the more expensive one, it's quiet.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 5: And then some of those, like the Hondas, because I've
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 5: dealt with the Hondas on a job up in Montana,
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 5: you can plug two of them together and get 220
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 5: and double the amperage.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 5: And they'll run all day on one tank of fuel.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: The inverter, yeah, the new ones. It's amazing how energy efficient,
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: because they kind of idle down when there isn't a draw.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 5: Right. But the big deal is, you know, in my
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 5: own house, I was stupid 20 years ago, and I
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 5: have a subpanel that is for a generator, so I
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 5: have the manual switch on it.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 5: And anyways, fired up my contractor generator. Oh, my God.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 5: Blew up my computers.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: And shouldn't you know better?
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 5: Well, I didn't at the time. I didn't know those
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 5: circuits were tied in.
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, let me ask you this. Did they even
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: have standby, Bob? Did they even have inverter generators back then, old-timer?
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Dieter. Back with Dieter in a minute. Now,
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. News Radio 570, WKBN
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: and Ron Furb. All right. We started a conversation with
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: Bob Dieter prior to the break at 5 o'clock. And
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: just to reiterate a couple of things as we learn,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: I guess, from this tornado activity that's going on. Bob
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: was listening when I was talking about tornadoes. My father-in-law
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: taught me that, Bob, early on. When I got married,
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: he's an electrician. He said, if you have a sump pump,
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: you've got to have a generator. I mean, I remember it.
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: He said, because thunderstorms will always knock the power out,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: and then your sump pump is going to– you need
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: to have a generator. And when they came out with
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: inverter generators, not your standard generator, but it's an inverter generator.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: You can get them at, like I say, Harbor Freight.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: That has a clean energy. It's a clean sine wave.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: And when they started putting these panels in your– the
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: boards in your furnace, in your refrigerator, you really need
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: an inverter generator, clean power, so it doesn't blow those
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: boards and that kind of stuff. If they cost a
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 1: little bit more money, you can get them quiet. But
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: it's an insurance policy to a large extent. Bob and
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: I talked about that. Bob and I– I asked Bob about–
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: And I really want a lot of you people to
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: think this because, Bob, there's people just now– we got
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: our electricity over at Verb Manor back at 1230 last night.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: But there are people that I've talked to that got
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: a foot of water in their basements. But if Edison
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: puts the power back onto their house– I just want
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: to reiterate, don't go stepping down in that water. Don't
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: go walking down in your basement because if you have
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: a washer plugged in, if you have a furnace that's
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: obviously getting electricity or a refrigerator, that could be, you
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: could die by stepping in the water, correct?
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. It's a death sentence, especially if, say, you step
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 5: in the water and and it has a charge to it,
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 5: and you're hanging on to, say, maybe the duct work
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 5: or something else, because that charge then is going to
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 5: go through your heart.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 5: So, you know, when I'm working real high voltage, you know,
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 5: you try to work with one hand in your pocket
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 5: and one hand working so you're not grounding yourself out.
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 5: And if you have to ground yourself, then I would, like,
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 5: As crazy as it seems, I'm right-handed, so maybe I
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 5: might touch my right elbow or my right shoulder to
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 5: something to steady me. Again, I don't want it going
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 5: through my heart.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: Right, but what was I going to say when you were...
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: It's just, like you said, if you step into those,
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: go into those type of situations, because often the circuit
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: breaker box is in the basement, which you can't get to,
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: You'll have somebody pull a meter on the outside of
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: the house so that you can step in there, cut
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: the power off to the house so you can safely
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: walk in there.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 5: Right, and then kill all the circuits that may be underwater,
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 5: you know, before you start. And, you know, you might
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 5: have to get another sump pump and power it from outside,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 5: from the neighbors, from something else.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: To get the water out.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, get it pumped out.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, run an extension cord and then get the basements
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: pumped out in that sense. Uh, just for people to
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: join us at five, Bob said, uh, let's be realistic.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you get water, that's a six inches
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: up or a foot up as many people have had
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: in the affected tornado area that shorts out the circuit
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: board in your furnace, it can short out the, well
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: in your can basically in general, your hot water tank
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: and your furnace become garbage for the most part, right?
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 5: If it gets up high enough. Yes, absolutely.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 5: If the gas valve submerged on the water tank, You know,
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 5: they're not going to give you a new one under
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 5: warranty typically, so it's new water tank time. The other
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 5: problem being is you don't know the quality of the
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 5: water that came up. So, you know, you're going to
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 5: have that gray water, dirty water, whatever it is, is
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 5: going to get up into all the cracks and crevices
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 5: and the insulation.
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 5: The insulation in my furnace and all that. You may
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 5: have bacteria and mold forever. So it's not healthy, you know,
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 5: to the occupants to be breathing that product.
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 5: You know, you could say, well, it didn't get that wet. Well,
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what was in that water.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 5: You know, some of it's gray water and some of
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 5: it's black water and some of it just runoff.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't want to see anyone get
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 5: ill due to mold, black mold, fungus, other things that
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 5: are growing in there.
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: For the most part, I mean, we've seen this happen. before,
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: obviously not, you know, I mean, this was a hell
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: of an event with this tornado that affected certain portions
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: of our community. Many of you were not affected by it,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: but those people that were affected by it, were there
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: still you know, clearing trees on homes and clearing trees
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: and trying to get power restored. And kudos to these guys,
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: any of the Ohio Edison guys and the contractors that
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: came in that Edison hires to help meet this demand.
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: Kudos to them and a great job that they're doing,
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: working in this type of situation. But Bob, in general,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you have homeowners insurance, should your homeowners
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 1: insurance for the most part cover less deductible, your hot
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: water tank and your furnace replacement?
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 5: In general, it depends on how the water came in.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 5: So you've got to specifically look at your policy. Did
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 5: it come up through the drains? Did it come in
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 5: through the windows? Did it come in through the wall?
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 5: Different policies. Some of them you have to have specific coverage.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: Like, for example, let's just deal with sump pumps, and
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because thinking about my policy,
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: sometimes there's a cap on those policies. Like, you know,
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: if your sump pump fails, you get $ 5, 000. There could
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: be a cap on that, and that's not nearly enough
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: to replace the furnace.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 5: Well, here's one. I got a gal over Ron Joy,
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 5: Ron Park area. Tree came down, or two trees, and
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 5: I punched the roof. They got water coming all over
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 5: the place. Power company put them without power because it
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 5: was unsafe, so that's okay. Her mom's like 93, 94,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 5: had to move out to a hotel. The concern here
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 5: is you'll get this call from, or you will call
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 5: a fire restoration company.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: Hold on to your wallet.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's where I'm going. Because they'll go, oh,
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 5: no problem, we'll be right out. Oh, you have coverage. Okay,
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 5: I have coverage. I have $ 5, 000 cap. I've already seen
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 5: these companies ding you $ 30, 000, $ 40, 000. And that's not counting
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 5: my furnace and the water tank. That's why we've got
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 5: to come in. Oh, you had a finished basement. We've
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 5: got to cut all the drywall off five feet down.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 5: We've got to put fans in. We've got to put
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 5: dehumidifiers in. And, you know, you go, oh, they're doing
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 5: a great job. Please keep aware, they charge you for
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 5: every fan that they set. They charge you for every
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 5: dehumidifier they set. I was in a commercial building down
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 5: in East Palestine back when we had that 20 below weather,
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know, six, seven years ago, something like. Their
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 5: sprinkler system froze. So it wiped out the offices. It
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 5: wiped out a couple hundred thousand dollars in computer. It
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 5: sprinkled all the steel in the plant, which ruined it.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 5: You know, you got watermarks on this big, huge, thick,
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 5: giant chunks of steel. I got down there. I'm kind
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 5: of nosing around the building trying to figure out, you know,
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 5: where my equipment is, what got damaged, what didn't. I
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 5: go up on the second floor in four offices. they
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 5: have every dehumidifier and fan that they could muster stuffed
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 5: in offices, sitting, not connected to any power because there
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 5: was no power to connect them to, and they're charging
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 5: for every single one of them. They unloaded a full
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 5: semi of dehumidifiers and fans, and they put them in
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 5: the second floor, and they were never powered.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 7: And, you know, I..
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 5: Contacted the building owner, and someone advertises on your radio station.
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 5: And I says, come with me. We need to go upstairs.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 5: And I showed him all this. He says, you're kidding me. And,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 5: you know, he called that company and says, you get
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 5: your butt down here. Every piece of equipment you have,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 5: I want it out of my building, and I want
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 5: it done right this second. And they got a different
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 5: restoration company. So be wary. You know, they want to
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 5: get in. They want to help you. Some of them
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 5: are great. Some of them not so much. But, you know,
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 5: to me, they charge exorbitant rates to sort through your stuff,
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 5: which has been turned into junk because it's all soaked,
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 5: and haul it away. So just, you know, it's nice that, A,
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 5: it's going to go away and it's going to happen faster.
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 5: But I can tell you I got one customer over
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 5: in the tree streets over there in Girard area off
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 5: of Salt Springs. They had them tied up better part
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 5: of six months by the time they got done with
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 5: their house. And, you know, the basement was finished. And,
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 5: you know, it was never truly restored back to how
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 5: it was. And, you know, they just drug their feet.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 5: But once they get in and nail it down, you
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 5: can't really get someone else. You know, they're in the process. Oh,
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 5: we'll be there tomorrow. And then tomorrow doesn't come. And
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 5: the day after doesn't come. And, you know, they're hounding
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 5: them to get them in to, you know, get this addressed.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 5: So just go cautiously.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 7: Is..
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: What, on average, ballpark would somebody expect to have to
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: pay for a new furnace?
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 7: Well, that's easy.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 5: I thought you were throwing a hard question. Standard 80%
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 5: furnace today from me, $ 3, 500 installed. One of my competitors,
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 5: they're 10-6 because I bid against them and they lost it.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 5: Standard 96% furnace. You know, one step down from what
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 5: you have at your house. Average, $ 5, 500. Two-pipe, 96%, two-stage burner, 98%,
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 5: equivalent of what you have at home, but in a ream,
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 5: about $ 7, 500. And, you know, the air conditioner is outside.
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 5: Unless you've got wind damage to it or something fell
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 5: on it, the only thing the air conditioner uses off
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 5: the furnace is the blower.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: And the coil... Well, but the coil is independent.
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got the coil is independent, so all we
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 5: need is a fan to move air through it.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 1: You can take the old coil or the coil and
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: put it on the new furnace.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: Right, okay. So I'm just trying to give people an
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: idea of price. So at 80%, $ 3, 500 installed, a two-stage one... 96%,
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: about 55%.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 5: 98%, 13-stage burner, 75%. And currently, say, like a three-ton
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 5: air conditioner.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: Average job. Before we get to the three-ton air conditioner,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: I'm at the point where I think you're probably best
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 1: off with the middle one, with the two-stage one, than
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: you are with... I mean, it seems that's the better
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: value than the one I have.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's... Well, I don't.
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 5: Sell 98% for energy efficiency. I sell 98%, and the
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 5: only reason to buy it is for comfort. Because with
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 5: a 13-stage burner, you don't wait to get hot to
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 5: get cold to get hot. And so my older clients...
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 5: north of you and me.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 1: All right, Dieter. Those be fight words.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 5: They're more sensitive to drafts and chill.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 5: And the potential is they're on more drugs, which is
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 5: going to affect maybe their mobility and all that. So
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 5: those real high-end furnaces, I sell them only for comfort.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 5: It's not about saving 2%. It's about comfort.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 5: So the bulk of what I sell is 96 Tuesdays.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: And what should people think on a three-ton air conditioner?
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 5: Average, $ 7, 000. You know, 60, depending on brand, I have
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 5: another brand I can offer. I would say $ 68, 000 to.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 14: $ 8, 000.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: Boy, I remember when they were $ 4, 000.
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't, I'll tell you right now, compared to
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 5: where we were at COVID-19, The systems I'm selling for
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 5: $ 13, 000 and $ 14, 000 used to be $ 8, 000 to $ 9, 000.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: Because of all the increases?
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had a 22% increase on major equipment this year.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: From the supplier? Yeah. It's ridiculous.
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: Just as a side note, I just covered some stuff
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 1: because of the tornado situation. and all the stuff that's
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: going on. A furnace should last roughly at least 20 years.
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: Would you agree?
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 5: That would be my gut average. I'll tell you, like
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 5: my old reams, old reams, so 30-year-olds reams, model nomenclature
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 5: and RGRA. Okay. It was an all-stainless steel heat exchanger.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 5: With a lifetime warranty to the original owner.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: You're over everybody's head at this point. Yeah, but I'm.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 5: Saying the side-vented furnace that is now, like, 30 years
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 5: old had a lifetime warranty to the original owner.
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, any more, Bob, when I buy a product
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: now that has a lifetime warranty, doesn't mean that much
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: to me at my age.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 5: That could be like six months, right?
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: I say, you better put it in my son's name.
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: Hang on, Dieter, hang on. All right, we'll find out
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: about air conditioners. And just, I don't want you getting scammed, folks,
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: all right, that have been affected by this tornado.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 5: I'm Dr.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 4: Cheryl Figliano.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN and Ron Furb. All right. We
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: started a conversation with Bob Dieter prior to the break
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: at 5 o'clock. And just to reiterate a couple of
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: things as we learn, I guess, from this tornado activity
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: that's going on. Bob was listening when I was talking
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: about my father-in-law taught me that, Bob, early on when
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 1: I got married. He's an electrician. He said, if you
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: have a sump pump, you've got to have a generator.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: You remember? I mean, I remember it. He said, Because
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: thunderstorms will always knock the power out, and then your
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: sump pump is going to– you need to have a generator.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: And when they came out with inverter generators, not your
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: standard generator, but it's an inverter generator. You can get
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: them at, like I say, Harbor Freight. That has a
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: clean energy. It's a clean sine wave. And when they
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: started putting these panels in your– the boards in your
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: furnace and your refrigerator, you really– need a an inverter
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: generator clean power so it doesn't blow those boards and
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff if they cost a little bit
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: more money and you can get them quiet but there
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: it's an insurance policy to a large extent bob and
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: i talked about that bob and i i asked bob
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: about and i really want a lot of you people
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: to think this because bob there's people just now we
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: got our electricity over at verb manor back at 12
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: 30 last night but there are people that that have
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: i've talked to they got a foot of water in
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 1: their basements But if Edison puts the power back onto
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: their house, I just want to reiterate, don't go stepping
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: down in that water. Don't go walking down into your
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: basement because if you have a washer plugged in, if
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: you have a furnace that's obviously getting electricity or a refrigerator,
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: that could be you could die by stepping in the water, correct?
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. It's a death sentence, especially if Say you step
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 5: in the water and it has a charge to it
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 5: and you're hanging on to, say, maybe the duck work
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 5: or something else, because that charge then is going to
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 5: go through your heart.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 5: So, you know, when I'm working real high voltage, you know,
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 5: you try to work with one hand in your pocket
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 5: and one hand working so you're not grounding yourself out.
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 5: And if you have to ground yourself... then I would like,
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 5: as crazy as it seems, I'm right-handed, so maybe I
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 5: might touch my right elbow or my right shoulder to
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 5: something to steady me. Again, I don't want it going
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 5: through my heart.
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 1: Right, but what was I going to say when you were...
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 1: It's just... Like you said, if you step into those,
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: go into those type of situations, because often the circuit
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: breaker box is in the basement, which you can't get to.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: You'll have somebody pull a meter on the outside of
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: the house so that you can step in there, cut
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: the power off to the house so you can safely
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: walk in there.
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 5: Right, and then kill all the circuits that may be
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 5: underwater before you start. And you might have to get
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 5: another sump pump and power it from outside, from the neighbors,
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 5: from something else.
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 1: To get the water out.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, get it pumped out.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: You know, run an extension cord and then get the
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: basements pumped out in that sense. Just for people to
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: join us at 5, Bob said, let's be realistic. I mean,
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 1: if you get water that's six inches up or a
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 1: foot up, as many people have had in the affected
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 1: tornado area, that shorts out the circuit board in your furnace.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: It can short out the... Well, it can... Basically, in general,
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 1: your hot water tank and your furnace become garbage for
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: the most part, right?
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 5: If it gets up high enough, yes, absolutely.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 5: If the gas valve's submerged on the water tank, you know,
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 5: they're not going to give you a new one under warranty, typically.
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 5: So it's new water tank time. The other problem being
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 5: is you don't know the quality of the water that
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 5: came up. So, you know, you're going to have... that
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 5: gray water, dirty water, whatever it is, is going to
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 5: get up into all the cracks and crevices and the insulation.
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 5: The insulation in my furnace and all that. You may
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 5: have bacteria and mold forever. So it's not healthy, you know,
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 5: to the occupants to be breathing that product.
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 5: You know, you could say, well, it didn't get that wet.
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 7: Well..
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what was in that water.
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 5: You know, some of it's gray water and some of
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 5: it's black water and some of it's just runoff.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know. You know, I don't want to see anyone,
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 5: you know, get ill due to mold, black mold, fungus,
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 5: other things that are growing in there.
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 1: Right. For the most part, I mean... We've seen this
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: happen before, obviously not, you know, I mean, this was
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 1: a hell of an event with this tornado that affected
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 1: certain portions of our community. Many of you were not
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 1: affected by it, but those people that were affected by it,
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 1: where they're still, you know, clearing trees and on homes
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 1: and clearing trees and trying to get power restored. And
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: kudos to these guys, any of the Ohio Edison guys
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 1: and the contractors that came in that Edison hires to
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 1: help meet this demand. Kudos to them and a great
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 1: job that they're doing, working in this type of situation.
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 1: But Bob, in general, I mean, if you have homeowner's insurance,
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 1: should your homeowner's insurance for the most part cover less deductible,
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 1: your hot water tank and your furnace replacement?
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 5: In general, it depends on how the water came in.
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 5: So you've got to specifically look at your policy. Did
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 5: it come up through the drains? Did it come in
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 5: through the windows? Did it come in through the wall?
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 5: Different policies. Some of them you have to have specific coverage.
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: Like, for example, let's just deal with sump pumps, and
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Because thinking about my policy,
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes there's a cap on those policies. Like, you know,
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: if your sump pump fails, you get $ 5, 000. There could
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: be a cap on that, and that's not nearly enough
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: to replace the furnace.
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 5: Well, here's one. I got a gal over Ron Joy,
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 5: Ron Park area. Tree came down, or two trees, and
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 5: I punched the roof. They got water coming all over
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 5: the place. Power company put them without power because it
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 5: was unsafe. So that's okay. Her mom's like 93, 94,
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 5: had to move out to a hotel. The concern here
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 5: is you'll get this call from, or you will call
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 5: a fire restoration company.
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: Hold on to your wallet.
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's where I'm going. Because they'll go, oh,
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 5: no problem, we'll be right out. Oh, you have coverage. Okay,
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 5: I have coverage. I have $ 5, 000 cap. I've already seen
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 5: these companies ding you $ 30, 000.
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 10: $ 40, 000.
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 5: And that's not counting my furnace and the water tank.
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 5: That's why we've got to come in. Oh, you had
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 5: a finished basement. We've got to cut all the drywall
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 5: off five feet down. We've got to put fans in.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 5: We've got to put dehumidifiers in. And, you know, you go, oh,
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 5: they're doing a great job. Please keep aware, they charge
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 5: you for every fan that they set. They charge you
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 5: for every dehumidifier they set. I was in a commercial
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 5: building down in East Palestine back when we had that
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 5: 20 below weather, I don't know, six, seven years ago,
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 5: something like. Their sprinkler system froze. So it wiped out
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 5: the offices. It wiped out a couple hundred thousand dollars
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 5: in computer. It sprinkled all the steel in the plant,
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 5: which ruined it. You know, you got watermarks on this big, huge, thick,
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 5: giant chunk of steel. I got down there. I'm kind
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 5: of nosing around the building trying to figure out, you know,
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 5: where my equipment is, what got damaged, what didn't. I
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 5: go up on the second floor in four offices. they
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 5: have every dehumidifier and fan that they could muster stuffed
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 5: in offices, sitting, not connected to any power, because there
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 5: was no power to connect them to, and they're charging
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 5: for every single one of them. They unloaded a full
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 5: semi of dehumidifiers and fans, and they put them in
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 5: the second floor, and they were never powered. And, you know,
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 5: I contacted the building owner, and someone advertises on your
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 5: radio station, and I says, come with me. We need
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 5: to go upstairs. And I showed him all this. He says,
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 5: you're kidding me. And, you know, he called that company
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 5: and says, you get your butt down here. Every piece
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 5: of equipment you have, I want it out of my building,
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 5: and I want it done right this second. And they
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 5: got a different restoration company. So be wary. You know,
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 5: they want to get in. They want to help you.
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 5: Some of them are great. Some of them not so much.
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 1: But..
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 5: You know, to me, they charge exorbitant rates to sort
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 5: through your stuff, which has been turned into junk because
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 5: it's all soaked, and haul it away. So just, you know,
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 5: it's nice that, A, it's going to go away and
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 5: it's going to happen fast, but I can tell you
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 5: I got one customer over in the tree streets over
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 5: there in the Girard area off of Salt Springs. They
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 5: had them tied up. better part of six months by
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 5: the time they got done with their house and you
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 5: know the basement was finished and you know it was
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 5: never truly restored back to how it was and you
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 5: know they just drug their feet but once they get
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 5: in and nail it down you can't really get someone
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 5: else you know they're in the process we'll be there tomorrow,
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 5: and then tomorrow doesn't come, and the day after doesn't come, and,
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 5: you know, they're hounding them to get them in to,
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 5: you know, get this addressed. So, just go cautiously.
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 1: What on average does a ballpark would somebody expect to
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 1: have to pay for a new furnace?
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. Well, that's easy. It's I thought you were
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 5: throwing hard questions. Standard 80% furnace today from me, $ 3, 500 installed.
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 5: One of my competitors, they're 10-6 because I bid against
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 5: them and they lost it. Standard 96% furnace, you know,
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 5: one step down from what you have at your house. Average, $ 5, 500.
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 5: Two pipe, 96%, two-stage burner. 98%, equivalent of what you
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 5: have at home. But in a ream, about $ 7, 500. And,
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 5: you know, the air conditioner is outside unless you've got
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 5: wind damage to it or something fell on it. The
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 5: only thing the air conditioner uses off the furnace is
• 2:50:22
  Speaker 5: the blower.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: And the coil.
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 5: But the coil is independent. Yeah, you've got the coil
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 5: is independent, so all we need is a fan to
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 5: move air through it.
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 1: You can take the old coil or the coil and
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 1: Put it on the new furnace.
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 1: Okay. So I'm just trying to give people an idea
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 1: of price. So at 80%, $ 3, 500 installed, a two-stage one. 96%,
• 2:50:44
  Speaker 1: about $ 55. 98%, 13-stage burner, $ 75.
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 5: And currently, say, like a three-ton air conditioner. Average job.
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 1: Before we get to the three-ton air conditioner, I'm at
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 1: the point where I think you're probably best off with
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 1: the middle one, with the two-stage one, than you are with...
• 2:51:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it seems that's the better value than the
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: one I have.
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's... Sometimes..
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't sell 98% for energy efficiency.
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 5: I sell 98%, and the only reason to buy it
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 5: is for comfort. Because with a 13-stage burner, you don't
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 5: wait to get hot to get cold to get hot.
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 5: And so my older clients, you know, north of you
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 5: and me... All.
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Dieter. Those be fight words.
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 5: They're more sensitive to drafts and chills.
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 5: And the potential is they're on more drugs, you know,
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 5: which is going to affect maybe their mobility, and all that.
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 5: So those real high-end furnaces, I sell them only for comfort.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 5: It's not about saving 2%. Right. It's about comfort.
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 5: So the bulk of what I sell is 96 two-stage.
• 2:52:13
  Speaker 1: And what should people think on a three-ton air conditioner?
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 5: Average, seven grand. You know, 60, depending on brand, I
• 2:52:23
  Speaker 5: have another brand I can offer. I would say 68
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 5: to $ 8, 000.
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 1: Boy, I remember when they were $ 4, 000.
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 7: Well, it wasn't.
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you right now, compared to where we were
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 5: at COVID, the systems I'm selling for $ 13, 000 and $ 14, 000
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 5: used to be $ 8, 000 to $ 9, 000.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: Because of all the increases.
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had a 22% increase on major equipment this year.
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 1: From the supplier.
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 1: And just as a side note, Eric, so just cover
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: some stuff because of the tornado and all the stuff
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 1: that's going on. A furnace should last roughly at least
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 1: 20 years. Would you agree?
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 5: That would be my gut average. I'll tell you, like,
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 5: my old reams, old reams, so 30-year-old reams, model nomenclature
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 5: and RGRA. It was an all-stainless steel heat exchanger. With
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 5: a lifetime warranty to the original owner.
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 1: You're over everybody's head at this point.
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm saying the side-vented furnace is now like
• 2:53:33
  Speaker 5: 30 years old. Yeah. Had a lifetime warranty to the
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 5: original owner. Yeah.
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 1: Well, any more, Bob, when I buy a product now
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 1: that has a lifetime warranty, doesn't mean that much to
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: me at my age.
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 5: That could be like six months, right?
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 1: I say, you better put it in my son's name.
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 1: Hang on, Dieter, hang on. All right, we'll find out
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: about air conditioners. And just, I don't want you getting scammed, folks,
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 1: all right, that have been affected by this tornado. All right, so...
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 1: Just some of those stories about some of the shenanigans
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 1: that are going on. But unfortunately, Bob, this happens in
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 1: so many industries that can happen. And I know people
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 1: that hire roofers, I mean, because we have a lot
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 1: of issues going on with people in their roofs. If
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 1: you hire a roofer, hire a name that you recognize
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 1: that's a local roofing company, because if you have a problem,
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 1: they're here to fix it and follow up on it,
• 2:54:31
  Speaker 1: as opposed to somebody that's from out of town or
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 1: you're not familiar with. I mean, you know the local
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 1: names that you hear. Those are the people that you
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 1: would want to do business with because they're here if
• 2:54:43
  Speaker 1: you have a leak or a problem.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we have some excellent roofers in the area that
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 5: stay here year-round. They don't travel a circuit like some
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  Speaker 5: of the ones that show up.
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  Speaker 1: For a storm, like the storm we've experienced here.
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  Speaker 5: Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I know a woman that had her had these
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 1: storm chasers, they came and did her roof. And they
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 1: put in a ridge vent where she had your, what
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 1: do you call them, the metal vents that were in there,
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the holes.
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the static vents up on the roof?
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. But you know what they did? They cut
• 2:55:23
  Speaker 1: in a ridge vent and they just rolled the felt
• 2:55:25
  Speaker 1: paper right over the existing holes. They never patched the holes.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So once they got paid and they got their money,
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 1: they left. And guess what happened? The roof started to leak.
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  Speaker 1: And it just took time. So she ultimately had to
• 2:55:39
  Speaker 1: pay someone else out of her pocket because it was
• 2:55:42
  Speaker 1: an insurance claim to come out and rip that part
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 1: of the roof off to fix the holes that these
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 1: guys have left. Well, or you have a leak and
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 1: you don't know how to get a hold of any
• 2:55:51
  Speaker 1: of these people because they're not from our community. They
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 1: come in town, get the money, and they leave versus
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 1: knowing so many of the names that's advertised on our station.
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 1: And you know how you can get a hold of them.
• 2:56:05
  Speaker 1: You know that they live here and that they'll back
• 2:56:08
  Speaker 1: up what they do. I mean, you see it in roofing.
• 2:56:11
  Speaker 1: You see it in so many of the... Homeowner businesses
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 1: that are out there, if you will, that service people.
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  Speaker 1: It's reprehensible.
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  Speaker 5: One of my gal friends in Boardman had a roof replaced.
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 5: She came home at lunch to see how things were going.
• 2:56:29
  Speaker 5: And they're sitting on a roof smoking marijuana. And she said,
• 2:56:34
  Speaker 5: get off my roof. They go, well, we're on our time.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 5: And she says, no, you're not. You're not on anyone's
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 5: time because you don't work here anymore. You know, so...
• 2:56:43
  Speaker 5: What's the liability if someone's up on your roof and
• 2:56:46
  Speaker 5: they're stoned? You know, whose fault is that? So, you know,
• 2:56:54
  Speaker 5: she fired him right on the spot. Again, you've got
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 5: to be careful who is actually coming to your house.
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 1: Right, who you allow on your property, absolutely. And I
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 1: would agree with that. I mean, I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 6: That.
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just reading an email. I'll just read this to you.
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 1: Bob Dieter is awesome. I'm sitting in a nice cold
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 1: house because he installed a brand new furnace and air
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 1: conditioner last year in my home and was an expert
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 1: at doing so. His pricing was very reasonable and he's
• 2:57:24
  Speaker 1: very honest. Couldn't be happier with his work. The guy's
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 1: first name, I want... I won't give you his last name.
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 1: His first name is Jim. Okay.
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: All right. So there, but anyways, so be cautious. I mean,
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people that are going to
• 2:57:40
  Speaker 1: need a lot of services. I mean, there's a, it's,
• 2:57:42
  Speaker 1: it's a helpless feeling when you got a tree on
• 2:57:44
  Speaker 1: your roof and, and so you need to get your
• 2:57:47
  Speaker 1: roof fixed and you got to get work done inside
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 1: your house as well. I mean, so be careful who
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 1: you hire and who does the work and, So many
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 1: tips that you put out there for people, Bob, in
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 1: these type of situations.
• 2:58:02
  Speaker 5: If you're getting quotes, be very specific that they write
• 2:58:05
  Speaker 5: down everything they're going to do and how. You need
• 2:58:11
  Speaker 5: to know these things. I mean, whose responsibility is it
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 5: to get rid of stuff? Are they getting rid of it?
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 5: Are you getting rid of it? Are they using all
• 2:58:19
  Speaker 5: new materials? They may seem like silly questions. But you
• 2:58:27
  Speaker 5: need to have those answers. You just need to verify.
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I send contracts out, and they're in great
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 5: detail as to what we're going to do and how
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 5: we're going to do it. And, you know, if someone says,
• 2:58:41
  Speaker 5: could you clarify that more? I don't have a problem
• 2:58:44
  Speaker 5: with that. You know, others, they say, we're putting in
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 5: a furnace or putting in an air conditioner. They don't
• 2:58:49
  Speaker 5: tell you what size, what efficiency, what brand, and they
• 2:58:52
  Speaker 5: just got one number. You know, we break ours out
• 2:58:57
  Speaker 5: so that the layperson can actually understand. Maybe I've got
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 5: to hold their hand to do it, but they can
• 2:59:03
  Speaker 5: understand exactly what they're buying and what they're.
• 2:59:06
  Speaker 1: Going to get. Is there major differences in brands just
• 2:59:09
  Speaker 1: in general, yes or no? Yes. As far as the
• 2:59:13
  Speaker 1: quality build?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And I will tell you, when I was a kid,
• 2:59:19
  Speaker 5: because I've done this forever, we had... About 250 furnace
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 5: manufacturers back when I was in my early teens. We
• 2:59:32
  Speaker 5: are down now to basically six major players. So American
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 5: Standard and Trane are the same company. They're owned by
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 5: American Standard. They have several offshoots that they also sell. Rheem, Rude,
• 2:59:48
  Speaker 5: Weather King are wholly owned names of Rheem Manufacturing. And
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 5: we have built over the years for other companies. The
• 2:59:57
  Speaker 5: Luxair product was acquired by BorgWarner, York, and then eventually
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 5: Coleman Evcon and Johnson Controls owned it. And here about
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 5: a year ago, it was purchased by Bosch, which is
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 5: an international company. Carrier Group, There's roughly 13 furnaces. Carrier Bryant, Day-Night, Payne, U-Tech, Cobra, Heil, Tempstar,
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 5: Comfort Maker, and a couple I don't remember off the
• 3:00:29
  Speaker 5: top of my head. They are effectively the same furnace.
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 5: The premier furnace like you have is only sold in
• 3:00:40
  Speaker 5: the Bryant and the Carrier label. All the other products,
• 3:00:44
  Speaker 5: the lesser products than that, you can buy with You know,
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 5: pick a name. They're all the same. Most of them
• 3:00:53
  Speaker 5: don't know what they're going to be until they hit
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 5: the end of the line. They roll off the same factory. So,
• 3:00:59
  Speaker 5: you know, I will tell you the quality today has
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 5: gone up because everybody shares. You know, like in Reem,
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 5: we have at least three engineers I know of that
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 5: came over from Carrier. Well, you know, they didn't forget
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 5: everything they'd been working on for the last 10 or
• 3:01:18
  Speaker 5: 15 years. They brought the best ideas with them. And
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 5: they integrated it into our product. Sure. And it's becoming
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 5: more and more this world product.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, a rising tide lifts all boats. We
• 3:01:35
  Speaker 5: keep getting better and better and better technology across the
• 3:01:39
  Speaker 5: board for the most part. I mean, some of them
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 5: kind of fall on their sword. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I got you. Even though there's different names under brands,
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 1: there are some quality differences.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you get what you pay for.
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  Speaker 5: The quality of the paint job, the thickness of the metal,
• 3:02:00
  Speaker 5: do they have sharp corners and sharp edges that will
• 3:02:04
  Speaker 5: cut you when you take the doors off? All of
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 5: that is part of the quality control, and why is
• 3:02:10
  Speaker 5: this furnace $ 1, 000 less than that system?
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 6: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 5: That's what you find.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I leave you with this for everybody out there.
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  Speaker 1: One thing, which I've never done, Bob, I've never done,
• 3:02:27
  Speaker 1: but you should really look at, like, if your system
• 3:02:32
  Speaker 1: isn't getting as cold as it should be, in many
• 3:02:35
  Speaker 1: cases it's because your outside unit is dirty on air.
• 3:02:40
  Speaker 1: on the fins going in from cottonwood trees or dust
• 3:02:45
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. You never, never, never hit that
• 3:02:48
  Speaker 1: with a power washer. Don't ever do it. You'll hurt
• 3:02:52
  Speaker 1: them fins, but you can rinse it off with a
• 3:02:54
  Speaker 1: hose and what have you to clean that off. But
• 3:02:57
  Speaker 1: you've got to take the fan out, and so it's
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 1: probably best left to a professional to do that. So
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 1: keep that in mind.
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  Speaker 5: Ideally, you want to push the dirt back the direction
• 3:03:08
  Speaker 5: it came. So to do that well... You need to
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 5: pop the fan off the top of it and take
• 3:03:13
  Speaker 5: a garden hose with, you know, good pressure and blow
• 3:03:16
  Speaker 5: it back out of the coil. Because if you bury
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 5: it in the coil, you may have just ruined your
• 3:03:22
  Speaker 5: unit because we can't get it out.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And you've got to be careful at doing it.
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  Speaker 1: But that should be done probably on a regular basis, right?
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 5: Once a year, at least. Right.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, that's something that should be done. And
• 3:03:36
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of– I think that's all I
• 3:03:38
  Speaker 1: got today.
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  Speaker 5: Keep the filters clean on the furnace and don't buy
• 3:03:42
  Speaker 5: the super high-efficiency one-inch or high-rated filters.
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  Speaker 1: They're too restrictive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Like trying to breathe through a pillow. It doesn't work
• 3:03:53
  Speaker 5: very well.
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  Speaker 1: I think you've helped a lot of people out with
• 3:03:55
  Speaker 1: this situation we have in our community, and I know
• 3:03:58
  Speaker 1: you have helped a lot of people out with some
• 3:04:01
  Speaker 1: of these places just ripping them off. So thank you.
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I know I've occupied a lot of your time.
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  Speaker 1: You have a pleasant evening.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Hang in there, buddy, okay? Thank you, Ron. There he is,
• 3:04:13
  Speaker 1: one and only Bob Dieter. Great advice, man, because I
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 1: don't want any of you to be taken advantage of,
• 3:04:18
  Speaker 1: whether it's roofing, siding, tree removal, or anything in this
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 1: type of situation. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Good evening, Ron. How are you?
• 3:04:29
  Speaker 1: It's G2. It's 544. I only got 15 minutes left.
• 3:04:34
  Speaker 1: What's on your mind?
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's been a while since I've been on,
• 3:04:40
  Speaker 6: and a lot has happened in these last couple of weeks.
• 3:04:44
  Speaker 6: You know, and the pace of change seems to be increasing.
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 6: Today we saw that, you know, West Texas Intermediate and
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 6: Brent had dropped down right around 70 degrees, or $ 70.
• 3:04:56
  Speaker 6: They're up about five points today as Iran attacked a
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 6: couple of tankers in the strait and now the u.s
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 6: central command is beginning to attacker and so so we
• 3:05:09
  Speaker 6: got a little spark in the war again hard to
• 3:05:13
  Speaker 6: say what that means they think it's almost done in
• 3:05:15
  Speaker 6: a couple of days or or we could be game
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 6: on that's not a positive but uh... but it has
• 3:05:22
  Speaker 6: been nice to see the gas prices coming down across
• 3:05:24
  Speaker 6: the country uh... that that has been uh... a welcome
• 3:05:29
  Speaker 6: rested for people I think the primary focus still has
• 3:05:34
  Speaker 6: to be these midterms. And, you know, I spoke to
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  Speaker 6: somebody recently about one particular candidate, and the enthusiasm that
• 3:05:43
  Speaker 6: was expressed that somebody that's been a member of the
• 3:05:47
  Speaker 6: Republican Party for a very long time just seemed very
• 3:05:51
  Speaker 6: naive and not very well considered. So I think people
• 3:05:56
  Speaker 6: are having a hard time analyzing the field of battle
• 3:06:01
  Speaker 6: outside of whatever bubble they're in. You know, I think
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of work to do to get to
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 6: figuring out what really is coming and what has to
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 6: be done to win.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. How do you think the midterms... How about the
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 1: Democrat socialists that keep winning in these Democrat primaries?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you've got to ask yourself, when Thomas Massey gets
• 3:06:24
  Speaker 6: a $ 30 million attack in a primary... And they put
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  Speaker 6: in a candidate who's, you know, got absolutely nothing to
• 3:06:31
  Speaker 6: offer that's good. And yet these people run unopposed. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: there's no similar counterattack against them. So it's clear that
• 3:06:39
  Speaker 6: Israel doesn't mind. And I don't understand why there isn't
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 6: a bigger fight here. Clearly, they're going to continue growing power. Clearly,
• 3:06:48
  Speaker 6: it's a move to the left. There's a significant amount
• 3:06:51
  Speaker 6: of leftist messaging that's out on social media, constantly pushing
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 6: celebrities and whatnot And we can all say they don't
• 3:06:58
  Speaker 6: have any impact. Of course, they don't on probably most
• 3:07:00
  Speaker 6: of your listeners who are paying attention, but to the
• 3:07:04
  Speaker 6: average public, these constant messages do, in fact, have an impact.
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  Speaker 6: I heard a clip of Sean Hannity. I don't listen
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 6: to him very often, but he was interviewing Werner de Blasio,
• 3:07:18
  Speaker 6: the former..
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  Speaker 7: Uh..
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  Speaker 6: Mayor of uh... new york the radical lunatic and uh...
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  Speaker 6: where we talk about how about how uh... you know
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  Speaker 6: he thinks that they're they're not representative of the overall
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 6: democrat party but they're coming on a piece of democrats
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 6: are becoming more reasonable and deliver these messages and he
• 3:07:36
  Speaker 6: just kept repeating a bunch of points against trump hannity
• 3:07:41
  Speaker 6: kept saying give me some substance and he wouldn't because
• 3:07:43
  Speaker 6: he knows there isn't any for the point he's trying
• 3:07:45
  Speaker 6: to make So what you're up against is very well-crafted
• 3:07:49
  Speaker 6: propaganda that's going to be delivered across a lot of
• 3:07:51
  Speaker 6: different platforms simultaneously and repetitively versus messaging that is in
• 3:07:58
  Speaker 6: disarray and ineffective. So I think anybody that's just... This
• 3:08:02
  Speaker 6: gentleman I was talking to was about a week and
• 3:08:04
  Speaker 6: a half ago about one particular candidate for governor. And
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 6: he said, well, this candidate is like a shoo-in. And
• 3:08:11
  Speaker 6: I was stunned because I've talked to a lot of
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 6: folks and nobody sees that. but he's just absolutely convinced
• 3:08:16
  Speaker 6: this is a great candidate and as i i i
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 6: think there's a lot of the region out there and
• 3:08:21
  Speaker 6: i think i think it'll take a while to get
• 3:08:22
  Speaker 6: down to what's in front of us but when you
• 3:08:26
  Speaker 6: see the democrat socialist of america taking over that party
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 6: gaining ground not just in manhattan but across the country
• 3:08:33
  Speaker 6: when you see no resistance from israel whose you know
• 3:08:36
  Speaker 6: theoretically supposed to be against these guys but they're instead
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 6: attacking people like matthew that doesn't make sense You know,
• 3:08:43
  Speaker 6: when you see all of this happening, you know, there's
• 3:08:46
  Speaker 6: something bigger. And I think we've got to kind of
• 3:08:50
  Speaker 6: get to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 1: So the situation in Iran is still in flux, would
• 3:08:58
  Speaker 1: you agree, based on what you said earlier?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it is. And the last time we spoke,
• 3:09:03
  Speaker 6: which was some time ago, it was in flux then.
• 3:09:06
  Speaker 6: We said, listen, this could hold today. It could change tomorrow.
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 6: It could change the next day. It's hard to say. Well,
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 6: you know, a couple of projectiles hit a couple of
• 3:09:13
  Speaker 6: tankers and now it's game on again. It's very difficult
• 3:09:18
  Speaker 6: to resolve a situation like this with so many competing
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 6: forces and factions with so much devastation in Iran and
• 3:09:25
  Speaker 6: this question about who's really in charge. They just buried Khomeini.
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  Speaker 6: You saw the crowds. This wasn't some small event. This
• 3:09:33
  Speaker 6: was massive crowds for that. So I think I think
• 3:09:40
  Speaker 6: we've got a lot more work to do there than
• 3:09:41
  Speaker 6: we realized to kind of come to an agreement.
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  Speaker 1: So this idea that, oh, the people were willing to
• 3:09:46
  Speaker 1: take over the regime, and then you see that turnout
• 3:09:49
  Speaker 1: at his funeral makes you question that, does it not?
• 3:09:53
  Speaker 6: Well, we questioned it when they said it, and it
• 3:09:55
  Speaker 6: didn't make sense then. It makes less sense now. That
• 3:09:59
  Speaker 6: was just something said by Mossad to get Trump to
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 6: go in and do this war. And, you know, we
• 3:10:04
  Speaker 6: still have people that think that there was a nuclear threat,
• 3:10:06
  Speaker 6: an imminent nuclear threat. I had this conversation about two
• 3:10:08
  Speaker 6: days ago with somebody, and they believe we were all
• 3:10:11
  Speaker 6: about to die in an Iranian mushroom cloud. The problem
• 3:10:14
  Speaker 6: is it's just simply not true. So, yeah, this is
• 3:10:20
  Speaker 6: not a group of people that are waiting for us
• 3:10:22
  Speaker 6: to drop off a few firearms so they can go
• 3:10:24
  Speaker 6: overtake the IRGC. Of course there are people, especially those
• 3:10:28
  Speaker 6: that have been you know, basically who had to flee
• 3:10:32
  Speaker 6: the country that were part of the former aristocracy who
• 3:10:36
  Speaker 6: are now out about in the diaspora who would want
• 3:10:40
  Speaker 6: to see this Tehran regime taken out, of course. But
• 3:10:46
  Speaker 6: that doesn't account for the millions inside the country who
• 3:10:49
  Speaker 6: support them. It's just, you know, it's not zeros and ones.
• 3:10:52
  Speaker 6: It's not all in or all out.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I find interesting in this situation, in
• 3:10:56
  Speaker 1: the Iran situation, You don't see any embedded reporters that
• 3:11:01
  Speaker 1: you've seen in other situations with reports from the front line,
• 3:11:08
  Speaker 1: if you will.
• 3:11:09
  Speaker 6: Well, and part of that is because we don't have
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 6: troops on the ground. Part of that is because Iran has,
• 3:11:14
  Speaker 6: I think, blocked a lot of the Internet access that
• 3:11:16
  Speaker 6: people would need to get cell phone videos out. And
• 3:11:19
  Speaker 6: part of that is because I think there are very
• 3:11:22
  Speaker 6: powerful forces who don't want us to know anything about
• 3:11:25
  Speaker 6: what's happening in that country. so they can craft our
• 3:11:28
  Speaker 6: image of what's going on in Iran. That's why we
• 3:11:31
  Speaker 6: were hearing, I don't know if you remember this, but
• 3:11:33
  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago people were just constantly saying
• 3:11:35
  Speaker 6: they get stronger every day, they get stronger every hour,
• 3:11:37
  Speaker 6: Iran is winning this war. Based on what? We talked
• 3:11:42
  Speaker 6: about this a couple of weeks ago. Based on nothing.
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 6: But what evidence do we have that that's not the case? Well,
• 3:11:47
  Speaker 6: you've got common sense, which is in short supply.
• 3:11:49
  Speaker 1: Standby. That's about it. Standby. Back with G2 to wrap
• 3:11:53
  Speaker 1: it up on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Sean Hannity tonight at 6.
• 3:11:57
  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 3:12:00
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 3:12:04
  Speaker 1: Just some of those stories about some of the shenanigans
• 3:12:06
  Speaker 1: that are going on. But unfortunately, Bob, this happens in
• 3:12:09
  Speaker 1: so many industries that can happen. And I know people
• 3:12:13
  Speaker 1: that hire roofers, I mean, because we have a lot
• 3:12:15
  Speaker 1: of issues going on with people in their roofs. If
• 3:12:18
  Speaker 1: you hire a roofer, hire a name that you recognize
• 3:12:22
  Speaker 1: that's a local roofing company. Because if you have a problem,
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 1: they're here to fix it and follow up on it,
• 3:12:29
  Speaker 1: as opposed to somebody else. that's from out of town
• 3:12:32
  Speaker 1: or you're not familiar with you know whether i mean
• 3:12:35
  Speaker 1: you know the local names it's that you hear those
• 3:12:37
  Speaker 1: are the people that you would want to do business
• 3:12:39
  Speaker 1: with because they're here if you have a leak or
• 3:12:42
  Speaker 1: a problem yeah we.
• 3:12:44
  Speaker 5: Have some excellent roofers in the area that stay here
• 3:12:49
  Speaker 5: year round right they don't travel a circuit like some
• 3:12:52
  Speaker 5: of the ones that show.
• 3:12:53
  Speaker 1: Up for a storm like the storm we've experienced here
• 3:12:58
  Speaker 1: right yeah but i know a woman that had her
• 3:13:01
  Speaker 1: had these storm chasers, they came and did her roof.
• 3:13:05
  Speaker 1: And they put in a ridge vent where she had your,
• 3:13:11
  Speaker 1: what do you call them, the... The metal vents that
• 3:13:16
  Speaker 1: were in there, you know, the holes.
• 3:13:17
  Speaker 5: The static vents up on the roof?
• 3:13:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. But you know what they did? They cut
• 3:13:22
  Speaker 1: in a ridge vent and they just rolled the felt
• 3:13:23
  Speaker 1: paper right over the existing holes. They never patched the holes.
• 3:13:27
  Speaker 1: So once they got paid and they got their money,
• 3:13:29
  Speaker 1: they left. And guess what happened? The roof started to leak.
• 3:13:34
  Speaker 1: And it just took time. So she ultimately had to
• 3:13:37
  Speaker 1: pay someone else out of her pocket to Because it
• 3:13:40
  Speaker 1: was an insurance claim to come out and rip that
• 3:13:42
  Speaker 1: part of the roof off to fix the holes that
• 3:13:44
  Speaker 1: these guys have left. Well, or you have a leak
• 3:13:48
  Speaker 1: and you don't know how to get a hold of
• 3:13:49
  Speaker 1: any of these people because they're not from our community.
• 3:13:52
  Speaker 1: They come in town, get the money, and they leave
• 3:13:54
  Speaker 1: versus knowing so many of the names that's advertised on
• 3:13:59
  Speaker 1: our station and you know how you can get a
• 3:14:02
  Speaker 1: hold of them. You know that they live here and
• 3:14:05
  Speaker 1: that they'll back up what they do. I mean, you
• 3:14:08
  Speaker 1: see it in roofing. You see it in so many
• 3:14:12
  Speaker 1: of the... homeowner businesses that are out there, if you will,
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 1: that service people. It's reprehensible.
• 3:14:20
  Speaker 5: One of my gal friends in Boardman had a roof replaced.
• 3:14:23
  Speaker 5: She came home at lunch to see how things were going.
• 3:14:27
  Speaker 5: And they're sitting on a roof smoking marijuana. And she says,
• 3:14:32
  Speaker 5: get off my roof. They go, well, we're on our time.
• 3:14:35
  Speaker 5: And she says, no, you're not. You're not on anyone's
• 3:14:37
  Speaker 5: time because you don't work here anymore. You know, so...
• 3:14:42
  Speaker 5: What's the liability if someone's up on your roof and
• 3:14:44
  Speaker 5: they're stoned? You know, whose fault is that? So, you know,
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 5: she fired him right on the spot. Again, you've got
• 3:14:57
  Speaker 5: to be careful who is actually coming to your house.
• 3:15:00
  Speaker 1: Right, who you allow on your property, absolutely. And I
• 3:15:05
  Speaker 1: would agree with that. I mean, I would agree with that.
• 3:15:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just reading an email. I'll just read this to you.
• 3:15:11
  Speaker 1: Bob Dieter is awesome. I'm sitting in a nice cold
• 3:15:13
  Speaker 1: house because he installed a brand-new furnace and air conditioner
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 1: last year in my home and was an expert at
• 3:15:19
  Speaker 1: doing so. His pricing was very reasonable, and he's very honest.
• 3:15:23
  Speaker 1: Couldn't be happier with his work. The guy's first name,
• 3:15:27
  Speaker 1: I won't give you his last name. His first name
• 3:15:29
  Speaker 1: is Jim.
• 3:15:30
  Speaker 5: Okay. Thank you.
• 3:15:31
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 3:15:32
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Jim.
• 3:15:32
  Speaker 1: So there, but anyways, so be cautious. I mean, because
• 3:15:37
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are going to need
• 3:15:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of services. I mean, there's a, it's, it's
• 3:15:41
  Speaker 1: a helpless feeling when you got a tree on your
• 3:15:43
  Speaker 1: roof and, and so you need to get your roof
• 3:15:45
  Speaker 1: fixed and you got to get work done inside your
• 3:15:48
  Speaker 1: house as well. I mean, so be careful who you
• 3:15:51
  Speaker 1: hire and who does the work and so many, so
• 3:15:54
  Speaker 1: many tips that you put out there for people, Bob,
• 3:15:56
  Speaker 1: then in these types of situations, it's.
• 3:16:00
  Speaker 5: And if you're getting quotes, be very specific that they
• 3:16:03
  Speaker 5: write down everything they're going to do and how. You know,
• 3:16:08
  Speaker 5: it just, you need to know these things. I mean,
• 3:16:11
  Speaker 5: whose responsibility is it to get rid of stuff? Are
• 3:16:14
  Speaker 5: they getting rid of it? Are you getting rid of it?
• 3:16:16
  Speaker 5: Are they using all new materials? You know, these, they
• 3:16:21
  Speaker 5: may seem like silly questions, but you need to have
• 3:16:25
  Speaker 5: those answers. That's You just need to verify, you know,
• 3:16:31
  Speaker 5: I send contracts out, and they're in great detail as
• 3:16:35
  Speaker 5: to what we're going to do and how we're going
• 3:16:37
  Speaker 5: to do it. And, you know, if someone says, could
• 3:16:39
  Speaker 5: you clarify that more? I don't have a problem with that.
• 3:16:44
  Speaker 5: You know, others, they say, we're putting in a furnace
• 3:16:46
  Speaker 5: or putting in an air conditioner. They don't tell you
• 3:16:47
  Speaker 5: what size, what efficiency, what brand. and they just got
• 3:16:51
  Speaker 5: one number. We break ours out so that the layperson
• 3:16:57
  Speaker 5: can actually understand. Maybe I've got to hold their hand
• 3:17:00
  Speaker 5: to do it, but they can understand exactly what they're
• 3:17:03
  Speaker 5: buying and what.
• 3:17:03
  Speaker 1: They're going to get. Is there major differences in brands
• 3:17:07
  Speaker 1: just in general, yes or no?
• 3:17:09
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 1: As far as the quality build?
• 3:17:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 3:17:15
  Speaker 5: And I will tell you, when I was a kid,
• 3:17:17
  Speaker 5: because I've done this forever, we had about 250 furnace
• 3:17:25
  Speaker 5: manufacturers back when I was in my early teens. We
• 3:17:30
  Speaker 5: are down now to basically six major players. So, you know,
• 3:17:36
  Speaker 5: American Standard and Trane are the same company. They're owned
• 3:17:39
  Speaker 5: by American Standard. They have several offshoots that they also sell. Rheem, Rude,
• 3:17:46
  Speaker 5: Weather King are wholly owned names of Rheem Manufacturing. And
• 3:17:52
  Speaker 5: we have built over the years for other companies. The
• 3:17:56
  Speaker 5: Luxair product was acquired by BorgWarner, York, and then eventually
• 3:18:03
  Speaker 5: Coleman Evcon. And Johnson Controls owned it. And here about
• 3:18:10
  Speaker 5: a year ago, it was purchased by Bosch, which is
• 3:18:12
  Speaker 5: an international company. Carrier Group, there's roughly 13 furnaces. Carrier Bryant, Day-Night, Payne, UTEC, Cobra, Heil, Tempstar,
• 3:18:25
  Speaker 5: Comfort Maker, and a couple I don't remember off the
• 3:18:27
  Speaker 5: top of my head. They are effectively the same furnace.
• 3:18:33
  Speaker 5: The premier furnace like you have is only sold in
• 3:18:38
  Speaker 5: the Bryant and the Carrier labels. All the other products,
• 3:18:42
  Speaker 5: the lesser products than that, you can buy with, you know,
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 5: pick a name. They're all the same. Most of them
• 3:18:51
  Speaker 5: don't know what they're going to be until they hit
• 3:18:52
  Speaker 5: the end of the line. They roll off the same factory. So,
• 3:18:57
  Speaker 5: you know, I will tell you the quality today has
• 3:19:01
  Speaker 5: gone up because... Everybody shares. You know, like in Reem,
• 3:19:07
  Speaker 5: we have at least three engineers I know of that
• 3:19:11
  Speaker 5: came over from Carrier. Well, you know, they didn't forget
• 3:19:14
  Speaker 5: everything they'd been working on for the last 10 or
• 3:19:16
  Speaker 5: 15 years. They brought the best ideas with them, and
• 3:19:21
  Speaker 5: they integrated it into our product.
• 3:19:24
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 3:19:24
  Speaker 5: And it's becoming more and more this world product.
• 3:19:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 3:19:29
  Speaker 5: And, you know, a rising tide lifts all boats. We
• 3:19:33
  Speaker 5: keep getting better and better and better technology across the
• 3:19:37
  Speaker 5: board for the most part. I mean, some of them
• 3:19:40
  Speaker 5: kind of fall on their sword.
• 3:19:41
  Speaker 1: All right. I got you. But so there are, even
• 3:19:46
  Speaker 1: though there's different names under brands, there are some quality differences.
• 3:19:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely.
• 3:19:52
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you get what you pay for. The quality of.
• 3:19:56
  Speaker 5: The paint job, the thickness of the metal. Do they
• 3:19:59
  Speaker 5: have sharp corners and sharp edges that will cut you
• 3:20:02
  Speaker 5: when you take the doors off? All of that is
• 3:20:06
  Speaker 5: part of the quality control, and why is this furnace
• 3:20:10
  Speaker 5: $ 1, 000 less than that system?
• 3:20:11
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 3:20:12
  Speaker 5: That's what you find.
• 3:20:13
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 3:20:15
  Speaker 1: I leave you with this for everybody out there. One thing.
• 3:20:22
  Speaker 1: Which I've never done, Bob. I've never done. You should
• 3:20:27
  Speaker 1: really look at, like, if your system isn't getting as
• 3:20:30
  Speaker 1: cold as it should be, in many cases, it's because
• 3:20:34
  Speaker 1: your outside unit is dirty on the fins going in
• 3:20:42
  Speaker 1: from cottonwood trees or dust or anything like that. You never, never,
• 3:20:46
  Speaker 1: never hit that with a power washer. Don't ever do it.
• 3:20:49
  Speaker 1: You'll hurt them fins. But you can rinse it off
• 3:20:52
  Speaker 1: with a hose and what have you to clean that off.
• 3:20:55
  Speaker 1: But you've got to take the fan out. And so
• 3:20:58
  Speaker 1: it's probably best left to a professional to do that.
• 3:21:02
  Speaker 1: So keep that in mind.
• 3:21:03
  Speaker 5: Ideally, you want to push the dirt back the direction
• 3:21:06
  Speaker 5: it came. So to do that well, you need to
• 3:21:08
  Speaker 5: pop the fan off the top of it and take
• 3:21:11
  Speaker 5: a garden hose with good pressure and blow it back
• 3:21:15
  Speaker 5: out of the coil. Because if you bury it in
• 3:21:17
  Speaker 5: the coil, you may have just ruined your unit because
• 3:21:21
  Speaker 5: we can't get it out.
• 3:21:22
  Speaker 1: Right, and you've got to be careful at doing it,
• 3:21:25
  Speaker 1: but that should be done probably on a regular basis, right?
• 3:21:29
  Speaker 5: Once a year, at least. Right.
• 3:21:31
  Speaker 1: All right, well, that's something that should be done, and
• 3:21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, I think that's all I got.
• 3:21:37
  Speaker 1: All right, go back to..
• 3:21:39
  Speaker 5: Keep the filters clean on the furnace, and don't buy
• 3:21:41
  Speaker 5: the super high-efficiency, one-inch, high-rated filters.
• 3:21:45
  Speaker 1: They're too restrictive.
• 3:21:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 3:21:48
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
• 3:21:48
  Speaker 5: Like trying to breathe through a pillow. It doesn't work
• 3:21:51
  Speaker 5: very well.
• 3:21:51
  Speaker 1: I think you've helped a lot of people out with
• 3:21:53
  Speaker 1: this situation we have in our community, and I know
• 3:21:56
  Speaker 1: you have helped a lot of people out with some
• 3:21:59
  Speaker 1: of these places just ripping them off. So thank you.
• 3:22:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I know I've occupied a lot of your time.
• 3:22:05
  Speaker 1: You have a pleasant evening, and hang in there, buddy, okay?
• 3:22:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Ron. There he is, one and only Bob Dieter.
• 3:22:13
  Speaker 1: Great advice, man, because I don't want any of you
• 3:22:15
  Speaker 1: to be taken advantage of, whether it's roofing, siding, tree
• 3:22:21
  Speaker 1: removal or anything in this type of situation. You're on
• 3:22:24
  Speaker 1: the air.
• 3:22:26
  Speaker 6: Good evening, Ron. How are you?
• 3:22:27
  Speaker 1: It's G2.
• 3:22:29
  Speaker 16: It's 544.
• 3:22:29
  Speaker 1: I only got 15 minutes left. What's on your minds?
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's been a while since I've been on,
• 3:22:38
  Speaker 6: and a lot has happened in these last couple of weeks.
• 3:22:42
  Speaker 6: You know, and the pace of change seems to be increasing. Okay.
• 3:22:47
  Speaker 6: Today we saw that, you know, West Texas Intermediate and
• 3:22:51
  Speaker 6: Brent had dropped down right around 70 degrees, they're about up,
• 3:22:54
  Speaker 6: or $ 70. They're up about five points today as Iran
• 3:23:00
  Speaker 6: attacked a couple of tankers in the Strait, and now
• 3:23:03
  Speaker 6: the U.S. Central Command is beginning to attack Iran. So
• 3:23:07
  Speaker 6: we got a little spark in the war again. Hard
• 3:23:11
  Speaker 6: to say what that means. They could settle this down
• 3:23:13
  Speaker 6: in a couple of days or... or we could be
• 3:23:16
  Speaker 6: game on. So that's not a positive, but it has
• 3:23:20
  Speaker 6: been nice to see the gas prices coming down across
• 3:23:22
  Speaker 6: the country. That has been a welcome respite for people.
• 3:23:31
  Speaker 6: I think the primary focus still has to be these midterms. And,
• 3:23:34
  Speaker 6: you know, I spoke to somebody recently about one particular
• 3:23:38
  Speaker 6: candidate and the enthusiasm that was expressed that somebody that's
• 3:23:42
  Speaker 6: been in you know, a, a member of the Republican
• 3:23:46
  Speaker 6: party for a very long time, just seemed very naive
• 3:23:49
  Speaker 6: and not very well considered. So I think there is,
• 3:23:52
  Speaker 6: I think people are having a hard time analyzing the
• 3:23:56
  Speaker 6: field of battle, uh, outside of whatever bubble they're in.
• 3:24:01
  Speaker 6: You know, I think, I think there's, there's a lot
• 3:24:03
  Speaker 6: of work to do to get to figuring out what,
• 3:24:05
  Speaker 6: what really is coming and what has to be done
• 3:24:07
  Speaker 6: to win.
• 3:24:10
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Um, How do you think the midterms, how about
• 3:24:14
  Speaker 1: the Democrat socialists that keep winning in these Democrat primaries?
• 3:24:19
  Speaker 6: Well, you've got to ask yourself, when Thomas Massey gets
• 3:24:22
  Speaker 6: a $ 30 million attack in a primary and they put
• 3:24:26
  Speaker 6: in a candidate who's got absolutely nothing to offer that's good,
• 3:24:32
  Speaker 6: and yet these people run unopposed. I mean, there's no
• 3:24:34
  Speaker 6: similar counterattack against them. So it's clear that Israel doesn't mind.
• 3:24:39
  Speaker 6: And I don't understand why there isn't a bigger fight here. Clearly,
• 3:24:44
  Speaker 6: they're going to continue growing power. Clearly, it's a move
• 3:24:46
  Speaker 6: to the left. There's a significant amount of leftist messaging
• 3:24:51
  Speaker 6: that's out on social media, constantly pushing celebrities and whatnot.
• 3:24:55
  Speaker 6: And we can all say they don't have any impact.
• 3:24:57
  Speaker 6: Of course, they don't on probably most of your listeners
• 3:25:00
  Speaker 6: who are paying attention. But to the average public, these
• 3:25:03
  Speaker 6: constant messages do, in fact, have an impact. I heard
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 6: a clip of Sean Hannity, who I don't listen to
• 3:25:11
  Speaker 6: very often... But he was interviewing Werner de Blasio, the
• 3:25:16
  Speaker 6: former mayor of New York, the radical lunatic. And Werner
• 3:25:22
  Speaker 6: was talking about how he thinks that they're not representative
• 3:25:28
  Speaker 6: of the overall Democrat Party, but they're coming on. He
• 3:25:31
  Speaker 6: thinks the Democrats are becoming more reasonable and delivering these messages.
• 3:25:34
  Speaker 6: And he just kept repeating a bunch of points against Trump.
• 3:25:38
  Speaker 6: Hannity kept saying, give me some substance, and he wouldn't.
• 3:25:41
  Speaker 6: because he knows there isn't any for the points he's
• 3:25:43
  Speaker 6: trying to make. So what you're up against is very
• 3:25:46
  Speaker 6: well-crafted propaganda that's going to be delivered across a lot
• 3:25:49
  Speaker 6: of different platforms simultaneously and repetitively versus messaging that is
• 3:25:55
  Speaker 6: in disarray and ineffective. So I think anybody that's just–
• 3:26:00
  Speaker 6: this gentleman I was talking to, it was about a
• 3:26:01
  Speaker 6: week and a half ago, about one particular candidate for governor.
• 3:26:05
  Speaker 6: And he's talking about how this candidate is like a shoo-in.
• 3:26:09
  Speaker 6: And I was stunned, because I've talked to a lot
• 3:26:10
  Speaker 6: of folks, and nobody sees that. But he's just absolutely
• 3:26:14
  Speaker 6: convinced this is a great candidate. And so I think
• 3:26:17
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of delusion out there, and I think
• 3:26:19
  Speaker 6: it's going to take a while to get down to
• 3:26:22
  Speaker 6: what's in front of us. But when you see the
• 3:26:24
  Speaker 6: Democrat Socialists of America taking over that party, gaining ground,
• 3:26:28
  Speaker 6: not just in Manhattan, but across the country, when you
• 3:26:31
  Speaker 6: see no resistance from Israel, who theoretically is supposed to
• 3:26:35
  Speaker 6: be against these guys, but they're instead attacking people like Massie.
• 3:26:38
  Speaker 6: And that doesn't make sense. You know, when you see
• 3:26:42
  Speaker 6: all of this happening, you know, there's something bigger. And
• 3:26:47
  Speaker 6: I think we've got to kind of get to the
• 3:26:48
  Speaker 6: bottom of it.
• 3:26:51
  Speaker 1: So the situation in Iran is still in flux. Would
• 3:26:56
  Speaker 1: you agree, based on what you said earlier?
• 3:26:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it is. And the last time we spoke,
• 3:27:01
  Speaker 6: which was some time ago, it was in flux then.
• 3:27:04
  Speaker 6: We said, listen, this could hold today. It could change tomorrow.
• 3:27:06
  Speaker 6: It could change the next day. It's hard to say. Well,
• 3:27:09
  Speaker 6: you know, a couple of projectiles hit a couple of tankers,
• 3:27:12
  Speaker 6: and now it's game on again. It's very difficult to
• 3:27:16
  Speaker 6: resolve a situation like this with so many competing forces
• 3:27:19
  Speaker 6: and factions, with so much devastation in Iran and this
• 3:27:23
  Speaker 6: question about who's really in charge. They just buried Khomeini.
• 3:27:26
  Speaker 6: You saw the crowds. This wasn't some small event. This
• 3:27:31
  Speaker 6: was massive crowds for that. So I think we've got
• 3:27:38
  Speaker 6: a lot more work to do there than we realized
• 3:27:40
  Speaker 6: to kind of come to an agreement.
• 3:27:41
  Speaker 1: So this idea that, oh, the people were willing to
• 3:27:44
  Speaker 1: take over the regime, and then you see that turnout
• 3:27:47
  Speaker 1: at his funeral makes you question that, does it not?
• 3:27:51
  Speaker 6: Well, we questioned it when they said it, and it
• 3:27:53
  Speaker 6: didn't make sense then. It makes less sense now. That
• 3:27:57
  Speaker 6: was just something said by Mossad to get Trump to
• 3:28:00
  Speaker 6: go in and do this war. And, you know, we
• 3:28:02
  Speaker 6: still have people that think that there was a nuclear threat,
• 3:28:04
  Speaker 6: an imminent nuclear threat. I had this conversation about two
• 3:28:06
  Speaker 6: days ago with somebody, and they believe we were all
• 3:28:09
  Speaker 6: about to die in an Iranian mushroom cloud. The problem
• 3:28:12
  Speaker 6: is it's just simply not true. So, yeah, it's... This
• 3:28:18
  Speaker 6: is not a group of people that are waiting for
• 3:28:20
  Speaker 6: us to drop off a few firearms so they can
• 3:28:22
  Speaker 6: go overtake the IRGC. Of course, there are people, especially
• 3:28:26
  Speaker 6: those that have been, you know, basically who had to
• 3:28:29
  Speaker 6: flee the country that were part of the former aristocracy,
• 3:28:34
  Speaker 6: who are now out about in the diaspora, who would
• 3:28:38
  Speaker 6: want to see this Tehran regime taken out, of course.
• 3:28:43
  Speaker 6: But But that doesn't account for the millions inside the
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  Speaker 6: Well, and part of that's because we don't have troops
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  Speaker 6: of weeks ago people were just constantly saying they get
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  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago. Based on nothing. But what
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• 3:38:44
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• 3:38:47
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• 3:38:50
  Speaker 17: Evacuations now on 42nd Street. The nation's three biggest airlines
• 3:38:54
  Speaker 17: would like you to be happy when you fly.
• 3:38:56
  Speaker 1: Well, if you have enough money.
• 3:38:58
  Speaker 15: How you get from point A to point B on
• 3:38:59
  Speaker 15: the three biggest airlines in the country is a very
• 3:39:01
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• 3:39:04
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• 3:39:10
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• 3:39:14
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  Speaker 15: first class seats than they do when the entire cabin
• 3:39:22
  Speaker 15: of cheap seats is full up with the rest of us,
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  Speaker 15: so expect the trend to continue.
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  Speaker 17: come-from-behind win over Egypt, his eighth goal in this year's
• 3:39:35
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  Speaker 16: Of all the wireless companies in America, only one has
• 3:39:51
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• 3:39:55
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  Speaker 16: Dial pound 250, say micro, and switch to a five-star
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