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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: There is no vaccine. J P. Sha Welcome in Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this of January. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockman,
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Speaker 1: We've got a busy program ahead. Reported coaching hires, those
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Speaker 1: reports continue. Will talk about some of those names that
0:38
Speaker 1: have been thrown around the Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback frenzy. Yes,
0:45
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks will be in the hopper this offseason.
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Speaker 1: We know what we talked about one in the college
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Speaker 1: ranks that with that number one pick would could be
0:54
Speaker 1: coming here. But a lot of names in free agency
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Speaker 1: or trades will go through all of those. Ashland Sullivan
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Speaker 1: joins us at floor thirty. She'll recap the week that
1:05
Speaker 1: was in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl for one.
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Speaker 1: We'll get her take on what some of the folks
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Speaker 1: around in the league are saying about the hiring of
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and the Jaguars organization. And we'll go around
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Speaker 1: the National Football League as well. J P. Shadrick with
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman. Little a little bit better now, good to
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Speaker 1: see it, Logs and my head my head is really
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Speaker 1: shiny now that's right. Well, what's up man? How we do?
1:31
Speaker 1: It's good to be back. Yeah, missed last week. You
1:36
Speaker 1: have a good week. It was good. Got away for
1:38
Speaker 1: a week. I had to see the family for Christmas?
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Speaker 1: Did did? Did your belly up? To the to the
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Speaker 1: to the to the recliner and your little what do
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Speaker 1: you call them things? The TV tray for the for
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Speaker 1: the championship games on Sunday? Oh yes, well I was
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Speaker 1: back in town for that. I mean, I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: if you got the lazy boy, the recliner and the
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Speaker 1: TV and then the TV tray, perfect you move and
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Speaker 1: snacks city, that was about as good of a of
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Speaker 1: a Sunday of football maybe that there has ever been
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Speaker 1: that you could argue the last two weeks, the championship
2:12
Speaker 1: week and then the divisional round are two of the
2:15
Speaker 1: best weeks ever, because I mean here, here, we had
2:18
Speaker 1: a year in which COVID interrupted everything. And would you
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Speaker 1: have known it? I mean, by looking at the quality
2:25
Speaker 1: of the play of what we saw over the last
2:27
Speaker 1: two weekends, you would not have known that anything interrupted
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Speaker 1: this season or had a hiccup win it or whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: And what might have been the most impressive thing of
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Speaker 1: all was the play the quarterbacks over this past weekend.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if those games didn't tell you right then
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Speaker 1: and there that you need to have a quarterback to compete,
2:48
Speaker 1: then you're living in a cave. I mean, if if
2:51
Speaker 1: you're if you're one of these uh NFL general managers
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Speaker 1: or executives, and and you're sitting there going you know
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Speaker 1: what we're We're we're good, We're okay with quarterback. We're fine.
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Speaker 1: We just need to give him. We need to give
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Speaker 1: him more weapons, we need to give him a better
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Speaker 1: running back, we need to build a better cast around him.
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Speaker 1: If you start talking about how you've got to get
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Speaker 1: better around him, that means that you're not good enough
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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. I mean, if you got Aaron Rodgers,
3:17
Speaker 1: you can say that, sure, But man, when you when
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Speaker 1: you got Blake Bortles, you don't say that or we
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Speaker 1: heard that around here. He's better when he has all
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Speaker 1: the weapons and a run game and guys to throw
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Speaker 1: two around him. And it just didn't work out. Credit
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Speaker 1: to to the quarterbacks. I mean, Aaron Rodgers had an
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Speaker 1: m v P year. He was absolutely dynamite to watch.
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Speaker 1: It was embarrassing that they didn't give him the ball
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Speaker 1: at the end of the ball game. When you when
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Speaker 1: you have fourth, fourth down and you have an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to score and to convert to you don't kick a
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Speaker 1: field goal. I'm sorry, you don't do that. And remember
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Speaker 1: who's on the other side as well. Tom Ray over there,
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Speaker 1: you know, he knows how to clothe that a football game.
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Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers was great. Tom Brady was fantastic at
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Speaker 1: for the most part. Then he had some interceptions that
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Speaker 1: were terrible. But Josh Allen I thought was was really good.
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is just he's just he is dynamite. He's
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Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. It's almost as if he
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Speaker 1: has this dial and his dial has different levels of
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Speaker 1: play good enough, urgency, need it, you know, he just
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Speaker 1: turns it to wherever it has to be and then
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Speaker 1: he makes the play however he has to make the
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Speaker 1: play whenever he has to make the play to win.
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Speaker 1: And he's and he's so fun to watch in Kent's city.
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Speaker 1: Is just so dynamic and so fast. I just think
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to stop them. But if there
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Speaker 1: was a guy that could do that, it's Tom That's right.
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Speaker 1: You don't remember Mahomes did that last week basically with
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Speaker 1: a bad wheel, not not a hundred percent wheel. He
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Speaker 1: was better than a week before, right, and you know
5:01
Speaker 1: he was in the protocol. Yeah, but I think he
5:03
Speaker 1: got choked out. I mean that was I think that
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Speaker 1: was a little bit that made a little bit too
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Speaker 1: much about that. That was. I mean, even though that
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Speaker 1: he was in the protocol, I mean the protocol sometimes
5:10
Speaker 1: you're in it just because out of pure caution. But
5:14
Speaker 1: when you watched what happened the week before, most people
5:17
Speaker 1: would say, especially people that watch UFC and and miss
5:22
Speaker 1: Mixed Martial Arts, would say that he got choked out
5:25
Speaker 1: because that's kind of what it looked like. And uh,
5:28
Speaker 1: but he was. He was marvelous and his foot clearly
5:31
Speaker 1: was better. And he's just the display of leadership that
5:36
Speaker 1: he shows. And you know, the way that his body
5:39
Speaker 1: language is in the huddle, his body language on the sideline,
5:44
Speaker 1: the way that his wide receiver had the muff on
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Speaker 1: the punt, and then all of a sudden they get
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Speaker 1: the ball back on offense and he goes right to
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Speaker 1: him and uh, and then goes to him, like first
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Speaker 1: of all, the play call goes to him, and then
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Speaker 1: Patrick goes to him. It just doesn't get any better
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Speaker 1: than that. So there's always talk about the quarterbacks that
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Speaker 1: were in the final four Brady, Rogers, Alan and Mahomes.
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Speaker 1: Coming up a little later on the show, we'll discuss
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Speaker 1: the quarterback off season ahead. There could be two thirds
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Speaker 1: of the league that have new starting quarterbacks next year.
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Speaker 1: We'll break all that down, including a couple in this division.
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Speaker 1: Well at three in this division left new starting quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: next year. Let's discuss though, the latest with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
6:33
Speaker 1: Trent Bulky was actually stays on as the general manager.
6:37
Speaker 1: They take the interim tag off. That was late last week,
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Speaker 1: and we heard from Balky in that press conference last week.
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Speaker 1: Let's hear from him again here. What did he learn
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Speaker 1: from the last time out as GM. I think you learn,
6:51
Speaker 1: you learn everywhere at every stop. I think you learn
6:55
Speaker 1: from the mistakes you make. Probably you learn more from
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Speaker 1: the mistakes you've made over your career then you do
7:01
Speaker 1: the positive things. But I've learned a lot. I've learned
7:05
Speaker 1: a lot about handling, dealing and working with coaches, a
7:09
Speaker 1: lot about dealing and working with players, a lot about
7:12
Speaker 1: the team building and what it takes uh in in
7:16
Speaker 1: spending the last a lot of time with coach Meyer
7:19
Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks, have learned a tremendous amount.
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Speaker 1: I think I think life's a journey. I think learning
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Speaker 1: is a journey. And I think every day you wake up,
7:28
Speaker 1: if you're not waking up with the mentality that you're
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Speaker 1: gonna learn something, you're missing something. So I'm just looking
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Speaker 1: forward to where we're currently at and where where I
7:37
Speaker 1: know we can go. Trent Balky was responsible for the
7:42
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run for the forty nine is not the
7:44
Speaker 1: most recent one, but the one prior to that, and
7:48
Speaker 1: so they had that nice run there with Hardball as
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Speaker 1: the head coach. That changed and then there were some
7:52
Speaker 1: issues at the end, the head coaching issues in San Francisco,
7:56
Speaker 1: a few different guys there, and then Balky was gone,
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Speaker 1: But there was success there for him. Now Here in Jacksonville,
8:03
Speaker 1: he's been here for a year. You got here last
8:05
Speaker 1: January as the player personnel director. So he knows the roster.
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Speaker 1: That's one thing of what's here right now and how
8:12
Speaker 1: this roster came to be. He has a history in
8:16
Speaker 1: the National Football League. He knows the rules of engagement
8:18
Speaker 1: in terms of transactions and how to get guys here
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Speaker 1: and the rules the day to day roster management. I
8:25
Speaker 1: think was his key for to help urban Meyer through
8:28
Speaker 1: this thing, and there you go. I mean, I think
8:31
Speaker 1: that's a big reason why he's he's he's in the building,
8:34
Speaker 1: he knows this team, and he knows the league, and
8:37
Speaker 1: I think those are all good things for Trent BALKI
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was happenstance that he ended up here.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that ownership because Shan Khan said
8:48
Speaker 1: that he was involved more starting last year, which we
8:51
Speaker 1: didn't know until he revealed that recently, and that leads
8:56
Speaker 1: me to believe that he also had some men put
9:00
Speaker 1: into the hiring of Trent Balky at the beginning of
9:05
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, because if he's more involved and
9:09
Speaker 1: he's got final, say, one roster, why wouldn't he be
9:12
Speaker 1: more involved in trying to find somebody that he feels
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Speaker 1: very strongly about and has done a good job. So
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Speaker 1: I think that's good, and I think it's also good
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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of Trent Balky brought in a gentleman
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Speaker 1: that he's worked with very closely recently and I'm trying
9:28
Speaker 1: to remember the name of his name. Uh, it was
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Speaker 1: a guy that he worked very closely with with the
9:33
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners and it was kind of his
9:36
Speaker 1: right hand man, and he's been brought in with Trent Balky.
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Speaker 1: And first of all, when when you were the genteral manager,
9:42
Speaker 1: you have to have eyes and people and voices that
9:46
Speaker 1: you can trust on the personnel side. And so by
9:50
Speaker 1: bringing in somebody that he trusts, I think is is
9:53
Speaker 1: advantageous for him. It also is advantageous to have Urban Meyer,
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Speaker 1: have somebody that has experienced like Jay you like you said,
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Speaker 1: has has done the drill before, has the familiarity with
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Speaker 1: the rules. But most importantly with him being hired going back,
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Speaker 1: I think it was in the January. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it a favorite. I think it was Janus January last.
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Speaker 1: From January until the interim tag was removed, he had
10:17
Speaker 1: a great opportunity and a great opportunity to evaluate this
10:22
Speaker 1: roster number one, to see this roster up close. And
10:25
Speaker 1: that's all fine and Danny, but also you typically don't
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Speaker 1: change the scouting department prior to the draft when somebody
10:33
Speaker 1: is hired as a generalmanager. Okay, but what you have
10:37
Speaker 1: to do because you're gonna be working with some thee
10:40
Speaker 1: some of you might can right now, you know, because
10:42
Speaker 1: you don't like them and you think they're terrible and
10:44
Speaker 1: you think they don't do a good job, and they
10:46
Speaker 1: might be lazy. I mean, I'm not saying that there
10:48
Speaker 1: is anybody like that, but I'm saying there could be.
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Speaker 1: But for the most part, you're working with the people
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Speaker 1: that are here. So if you're working with the people
10:55
Speaker 1: that are here, who can you trust and who do
10:57
Speaker 1: you believe? And I think for for the last year,
11:00
Speaker 1: you get to hear what some of these scouts are
11:03
Speaker 1: telling the rest of you. And so now you get
11:07
Speaker 1: to hear their voice here, their opinions, and then you
11:11
Speaker 1: get to find out is that factual or is that
11:15
Speaker 1: a bunch of bs? Does this guy do his homework?
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Speaker 1: Is this a guy that I can trust his opinion
11:19
Speaker 1: on on players with? Because trusting the staff that you
11:24
Speaker 1: currently have in finding voices that you can trust with
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Speaker 1: the current staff is very important because no one man
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Speaker 1: can scout three thousand people or four thousand people that
11:34
Speaker 1: whatever the number is that is eligible to be drafted
11:37
Speaker 1: by the NFL. So you have to be able to
11:40
Speaker 1: delegate and you have to be able to trust. And
11:42
Speaker 1: I think that's critically important to Trent Balky having been
11:45
Speaker 1: here since January, to be able to establish some of
11:48
Speaker 1: the or to be able to filter some of the staff,
11:52
Speaker 1: so to speak, and it also to evaluate some of
11:55
Speaker 1: the current situations that he has. So obviously we've heard
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Speaker 1: over the last few press conferences here when urban Meyer
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Speaker 1: was hired and when Trent Balky was announced as GM.
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Speaker 1: It is a partnership. But even if you go back
12:08
Speaker 1: to the urban Meyer press conference, shot Con says that
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Speaker 1: it's urban Meyer's vision and the owner and the GM
12:15
Speaker 1: have to support that. So at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: this is Urban Myers vision and Bulky and that personnel staff.
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Speaker 1: They're all gonna sit down, as as Balky said the
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Speaker 1: other day, after everybody's hired and see really where they
12:29
Speaker 1: want this thing to be, where they stand with personnel now,
12:31
Speaker 1: and then what they have to do to field that
12:33
Speaker 1: in free agency and the draft that's coming up down
12:35
Speaker 1: the line. But it is a partnership. But at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's Urban Meyer's vision of what
12:41
Speaker 1: this football team is going to be. Well, I mean,
12:44
Speaker 1: first and foremost local, you're basically talking about having a
12:47
Speaker 1: general manager and a coach work in hand in hand,
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Speaker 1: and a scouting staff working with the coaching staff to
12:52
Speaker 1: be able to provide the players that you need to have.
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Speaker 1: And uh, it's crazy that you go back to this
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Speaker 1: time last year and we were hearing from Doug Moron
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Speaker 1: and Dave Calledwell that that didn't exist prior to that
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Speaker 1: point and that they were gonna work to make that
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Speaker 1: work this you know in and we were sitting there going,
13:11
Speaker 1: wait a minute, the scouting department never asked the opinion
13:16
Speaker 1: of coaches. I mean, are the coaches the ones that
13:19
Speaker 1: have to coach these guys and and have a system,
13:21
Speaker 1: and don't they have certain things that they need to
13:24
Speaker 1: let the scouting department know that they would like to
13:26
Speaker 1: have in a player's traits and abilities to be able
13:29
Speaker 1: to execute their scheme. And we found out that that
13:31
Speaker 1: didn't exist prior to this past year. So it was
13:34
Speaker 1: it was quite shocking that we heard that something was
13:37
Speaker 1: going to change and that was gonna start happening. So
13:40
Speaker 1: what we're here now is is should be the standard
13:43
Speaker 1: and that general managers and coach has got to be
13:45
Speaker 1: working together and if it's the general manager's vision, the
13:48
Speaker 1: coach has to be able to execute it. If it's
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Speaker 1: the coach's vision and he's the boss man, then the
13:53
Speaker 1: jennerman general manager has to facilitate and provide the tools
13:58
Speaker 1: to be able to execute that vision, and that what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing right now. But but certainly this is not
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Speaker 1: surprising news. It's the way it should be in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned h Balky's right hand man. Tom Gamble is
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Speaker 1: name of former assistant GM with the forty Niners. He
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Speaker 1: was in the CFL last year of the Montreal Alouettes,
14:17
Speaker 1: which they didn't play football last year. By uh so,
14:22
Speaker 1: there you go. That's that's so. Those are some of
14:24
Speaker 1: the changes in the GM and the personnel side for
14:27
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. There are rumors of coaches names will
14:31
Speaker 1: get to some of those coming up. Offensive defensive coordinator,
14:34
Speaker 1: special teams coordinators. Some of those names have been reported.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk through those coming up a little later. The
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Speaker 1: quarterback carousel around the National Football League that is only
14:44
Speaker 1: just beginning. We're in for an epic offseason at the
14:48
Speaker 1: quarterback position in the NFL. Will go around the NFL
14:51
Speaker 1: a little bit later as well. And Ashland Sullivan joins
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Speaker 1: us at four thirty today to recap the Senior Bowl
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Speaker 1: JP Shatrick. So, yes we are. We're all line six
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Speaker 1: ft apart. Yes we're distanced, but we are aligned at
19:47
Speaker 1: distance alright. So that that was Urban Meyer, of course,
19:50
Speaker 1: and the process of getting his elite staff assembled continues.
19:56
Speaker 1: The interviews, as we understand it, are still continuing. There
19:59
Speaker 1: have been some names that have been reported to have
20:02
Speaker 1: been hired by the Jacksonville Jaguars, especially with the coordinator positions.
20:06
Speaker 1: Let's start with the offensive coordinator spot and Darryl Bevil.
20:11
Speaker 1: He has been reported to have been hired. Nothing official yet.
20:14
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars are going to wait until the
20:15
Speaker 1: entire staff is complete to announce the staff as a whole.
20:19
Speaker 1: Whenever that is either late this week early next I
20:22
Speaker 1: would think would be the case with that. But Bevil
20:24
Speaker 1: has been around this league for a long time, logs
20:27
Speaker 1: a lot of those years in Seattle Super Bowl runs
20:30
Speaker 1: there with the Seahawks and with the Vikings for a
20:33
Speaker 1: number of years prior to that with the Lions. Most
20:37
Speaker 1: recently the last two years. And uh, I know he
20:41
Speaker 1: and Matt Stafford were pretty tight. But and then going
20:44
Speaker 1: back to the Packers days in the early two thousands,
20:46
Speaker 1: that was the Brett Farve run. And then he goes
20:50
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. Here comes far to Minnesota. Um that that
20:54
Speaker 1: goes back. Awhile put your wagon to a good player. JP.
20:57
Speaker 1: He's respected around the league though smart it doesn't hurt. Look. Uh,
21:02
Speaker 1: it's kind of one of the one of the sayings
21:04
Speaker 1: that a lot of coaches have talked about around the
21:07
Speaker 1: league for many years. And it looks the easiest way
21:10
Speaker 1: to become a good coach is to be able to
21:12
Speaker 1: coach really good players. And uh. And I'm not saying
21:16
Speaker 1: that that Darryl b is not good fine football coach,
21:18
Speaker 1: because I think he is a really good football coach.
21:20
Speaker 1: I love how he can be very run centric. And
21:23
Speaker 1: I think with a young quarterback, much like he had
21:26
Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks, and that he's gonna have here
21:30
Speaker 1: with a young rookie quarterback right out of the gate,
21:33
Speaker 1: that that's what you're gonna have to have to have
21:35
Speaker 1: a little bit of patience to allow him to develop.
21:37
Speaker 1: And and I thought that he had. He did a
21:38
Speaker 1: wonderful job with Russell Wilson early on in his career.
21:42
Speaker 1: And yes, he's had the ability to coach Brett Farve
21:46
Speaker 1: and did some amazing things with Brett Farves quarterbacks coach
21:49
Speaker 1: in Green Bay's the offensive coordinator in Minnesota. And he
21:53
Speaker 1: had one year this past year with Matt Stafford. And
21:55
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Matt Stafford, when when we've
21:58
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to see them early in the season,
22:01
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and Matt Stafford were not playing very
22:04
Speaker 1: good and uh so Darry Bubble was kind of a
22:08
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh hands were tied a little bit because
22:11
Speaker 1: the playoffs quarterback wasn't particularly good. So but I think
22:14
Speaker 1: he's a good football coach. And and it will be
22:17
Speaker 1: interesting because you know, Urban obviously has experience on the
22:21
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. And no offense is ever
22:24
Speaker 1: just the designer the implementation by one man. It's it's
22:28
Speaker 1: a conglomeration where everybody's aligned on the offensive side of
22:32
Speaker 1: the and uh and they come together and then they
22:36
Speaker 1: make a new offense. And so it will it'll be
22:39
Speaker 1: interesting to see what kind of impressions that Urban puts
22:47
Speaker 1: on the offense what kind of nuances that he has.
22:52
Speaker 1: And because you know, when you watch a lot of
22:54
Speaker 1: the NFL game, the influence and from college has just
22:59
Speaker 1: become more and more and more. And uh so, could
23:03
Speaker 1: Urban put his own little twist on on the NFL's
23:07
Speaker 1: offensive system. I don't know, but it's gonna be fun
23:09
Speaker 1: to watch. You have the right guys to go execute
23:11
Speaker 1: it too, obviously, But that's that's that's a big part
23:14
Speaker 1: of the battle, is that you've you've got to have
23:16
Speaker 1: players that can execute what your plan is going to be.
23:19
Speaker 1: And and with the quarterback at Clemson, he runs obviously
23:24
Speaker 1: a college system, the college system where the quarterback is
23:28
Speaker 1: a running threat. Daryl Bevil ran a system in Seattle
23:32
Speaker 1: where he had a quarterback who is a legitimate running threat.
23:35
Speaker 1: And so the the ability to create and to um
23:42
Speaker 1: to come up with new things to innovate on offense
23:47
Speaker 1: when you have that type of ability is good. And look,
23:50
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches will tell you, first time head coaches,
23:54
Speaker 1: first time offensive coordinators, when they have a young quarterback,
23:58
Speaker 1: what is their preference in that quarterback. They want a
24:00
Speaker 1: young quarterback that can make things happen with his legs,
24:04
Speaker 1: that can eventually develop with his arm, but allow the
24:08
Speaker 1: legs to make up for the lack of experience with
24:10
Speaker 1: the arm until the arm catches up and experience and
24:13
Speaker 1: so and and and and there's a lot of merit
24:16
Speaker 1: to that. But you also because at the end of
24:19
Speaker 1: the day, all these quarterbacks, even Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick,
24:25
Speaker 1: you know, these guys eventually are going to have to
24:26
Speaker 1: be able to perform from the pocket. But at least
24:29
Speaker 1: the ability to make things happen with their legs while
24:32
Speaker 1: they're young helps kind of get over the hump, so
24:37
Speaker 1: to speak. Early on, let's flip it to the defensive side.
24:41
Speaker 1: The reported name that has been hired by the Jaguars,
24:45
Speaker 1: Joe Cullen, a familiar name around here. He was the
24:48
Speaker 1: d line coach for the Jaguars from through the season,
24:53
Speaker 1: most recently with the Baltimore Ravens up until this past season,
24:58
Speaker 1: and he's been in the league since two thous and six.
25:01
Speaker 1: He started his college coaching career back in nineteen. It
25:05
Speaker 1: was the year after you came into the NFL. It's
25:07
Speaker 1: a long time in coaching for Joe Cullen, but it'll
25:10
Speaker 1: be good whenever this is officially announced to have Cullen
25:14
Speaker 1: back in the mix here in Jacksonville. An outstanding personality.
25:18
Speaker 1: We remember his throady probably scream on the practice field
25:24
Speaker 1: with the defensive line here. And I know a few
25:27
Speaker 1: years ago we were in Baltimore for a training camp.
25:30
Speaker 1: We got a chance to spend a little time with
25:32
Speaker 1: him up there for those weeks we were there. But
25:34
Speaker 1: this is his first opportunity as a defensive coordinator and
25:38
Speaker 1: defensive play call in the NFL. We're watching some video
25:41
Speaker 1: here when he was coaching with the Ravens. One thing
25:44
Speaker 1: about Joe is is that nothing's halfway half. I mean,
25:48
Speaker 1: even his voice inflection when he's doing snap counts for
25:52
Speaker 1: drill work is intense. And uh, I love the guy.
25:56
Speaker 1: Excited to have him back in Jacksonville. He's a he's
25:59
Speaker 1: a good man. And the more good people you have,
26:01
Speaker 1: the better chance you have for success. And and I
26:04
Speaker 1: will tell you this when you when you watch Joe Cullen,
26:07
Speaker 1: or should I say this, when you go to watch
26:09
Speaker 1: a practice and Joe Cullen is on the field, you
26:13
Speaker 1: you naturally hear him because he's a little louder than
26:16
Speaker 1: somebody's but he's not using loud cursing expletives and trying
26:22
Speaker 1: to attract attention to himself. He's just got a way
26:25
Speaker 1: about him that is a little bit magnetic when you
26:28
Speaker 1: want to watch him coach, And so no matter where
26:31
Speaker 1: you are on the field, you kind of get drawn
26:33
Speaker 1: to where he's at. And he's fun to watch coach.
26:35
Speaker 1: And and I said this with Ashland last week, j P,
26:38
Speaker 1: when you were off, you know, drinking beer and partying
26:40
Speaker 1: and stuff. Was that, Uh, defensive line is obviously something
26:45
Speaker 1: that's a little bit near and dear to my heart.
26:47
Speaker 1: And I know a little bit of something about that
26:50
Speaker 1: position and and some of the techniques and the teachings
26:53
Speaker 1: of that position. And when I enjoy watching a defensive
26:57
Speaker 1: line coach, I mean when I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoy watching
27:01
Speaker 1: a defensive line coach, that's I think that's a big
27:04
Speaker 1: compliment because I I don't get bored with him, and
27:07
Speaker 1: I don't get board at all. And for me, Joe
27:10
Speaker 1: Cullen is fun to watch. He's smart, he knows the techniques,
27:13
Speaker 1: he knows defense, and and I think what the best
27:16
Speaker 1: part is is that he's got a certain way about
27:18
Speaker 1: him that he can work with players. And I think
27:20
Speaker 1: that's gonna allow him to be a real strong leaders
27:22
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Not I'm happy for his opportunity because it's
27:27
Speaker 1: it's not very common for defensive line coaches to to
27:31
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to move up to a defensive coordinator position.
27:34
Speaker 1: A few other notes here. Brian Schneider is a name
27:37
Speaker 1: that has been linked to the special team's coordinator role here.
27:40
Speaker 1: He has a long time in history in Seattle with
27:43
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. And some other names that are either no
27:46
Speaker 1: longer here or could be coming here. Keenan McCardell is
27:49
Speaker 1: headed to the Vikings as the wide receiver's coach there.
27:52
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a better coach on right away. Justin
27:55
Speaker 1: Jefferson doesn't hurt. What about feeling? And he's pretty good too. Yes,
27:59
Speaker 1: they're gonna be just and I think uh San j
28:01
Speaker 1: Loll has been rumored or linked to the Jaguars wide
28:04
Speaker 1: receivers La gig Okay, he's been around the league for
28:09
Speaker 1: quite some time. And then former Ravens linebacker Zach Or
28:12
Speaker 1: apparently is going to interview with the Jaguars as linebackers coach.
28:16
Speaker 1: And yes, former head coach Doug Marrone is now the
28:19
Speaker 1: offensive line coach at the University of Alabama. Well, it's uh,
28:26
Speaker 1: him and his buddy have reunited on our Nick Saban's staff.
28:31
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, the former Texans head coach and general manager,
28:35
Speaker 1: also is on the staff as the offensive coordinator for
28:39
Speaker 1: Role Tie JP. And it seems that where that's the
28:43
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28:47
Speaker 1: car wash, it really is. I mean, think about the
28:50
Speaker 1: last few years and all the assistants and analysts that
28:53
Speaker 1: have gone on to head coaching or assistant jobs elsewhere.
28:56
Speaker 1: Let me say this first of all, Dug Moron doesn't
28:58
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29:03
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29:06
Speaker 1: and and was enjoyed working with him for the last
29:09
Speaker 1: few years. And uh, but I mean when I say that,
29:14
Speaker 1: to get their image rehab. Now, Bill O'Brien, now he
29:16
Speaker 1: might need a little bit of rehab, okay, to his
29:18
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29:24
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29:31
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29:35
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29:37
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29:39
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29:42
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29:45
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29:47
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29:50
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29:53
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34:04
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34:09
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34:11
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34:19
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34:28
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34:30
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34:32
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Speaker 1: dot com Ashlyn. Good afternoon, Welcome back to Jacksonville. Thank you.
35:00
Speaker 1: It was quite the drive six hours. Wasn't prepared for that.
35:04
Speaker 1: Listen to a few podcasts, but happy to me back.
35:06
Speaker 1: And Hi, Jeff, I'm not an upgrade. I don't know
35:09
Speaker 1: if you heard about the joke I've made last week.
35:11
Speaker 1: JP kind of insulted Jeff and John and everyone. So
35:15
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about it, and I figured Jeff would have
35:18
Speaker 1: let you know, well, it's all good. Actually we had
35:22
Speaker 1: some fun with it, and uh uh, she said, all right,
35:25
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it upgrade. I said, what, I'm just
35:27
Speaker 1: sitting there going what that was? We had it, love it?
35:34
Speaker 1: So was this your first go round and mobile? Actually
35:37
Speaker 1: it wasn't a kind of a sad start to the
35:41
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl because COVID nineteen definitely changed up the image
35:45
Speaker 1: I had of the Senior Bowl and Mobile as a whole.
35:47
Speaker 1: I know, you know what very well, JP, and streets
35:51
Speaker 1: were empty, no one in restaurants. And because the changes
35:55
Speaker 1: that we're going to see to the NFL combine this year,
35:57
Speaker 1: that's what made the Senior Bowl so important a year
36:00
Speaker 1: in fact, we were tooled that every single prospect that
36:03
Speaker 1: was participating in the Senior Bowl this year will be drafted,
36:07
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about when you see all
36:09
Speaker 1: those guys out there on the field. But needless to say,
36:11
Speaker 1: it was an interesting first trip to the Senior Bowl,
36:14
Speaker 1: but definitely impactful. Beautiful new stadium on the campus of
36:17
Speaker 1: the University of South Alabama, by the way, they've gone
36:20
Speaker 1: away from lad People's Stadium for the first time and
36:23
Speaker 1: using that fantastic facility there. It's a good point Ashland
36:25
Speaker 1: because there is nothing else except for pro days the
36:29
Speaker 1: rest of the way, so logs, the scouts and everybody
36:32
Speaker 1: have to lean on game tape and the very little
36:35
Speaker 1: that they get to see these guys in person. Well,
36:38
Speaker 1: here's the thing JP and Ashland is that you you
36:41
Speaker 1: have game type for some, but then there's some as
36:44
Speaker 1: you go you don't have game tape on and some
36:48
Speaker 1: some guys opted out, so you don't have any from
36:52
Speaker 1: So I think this is the year that that scouting
36:54
Speaker 1: staffs really really gonna earn their pay pay and uh
36:58
Speaker 1: and a lot of the decision is going to be
37:00
Speaker 1: based on faith and and so some of the past
37:03
Speaker 1: scouting work is certainly going to be very valuable in Ashland.
37:08
Speaker 1: The Senior Bowl stuff. I mean, coaches are going to
37:11
Speaker 1: be more apt to make decisions on people that they
37:15
Speaker 1: can see and and players they can trust, and scouts
37:20
Speaker 1: are are are human, They're gonna trust what they've seen.
37:24
Speaker 1: And so the players that have played more in have
37:28
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to participate in a Senior Bowl, those
37:31
Speaker 1: type of players are going to have a higher grade
37:34
Speaker 1: on them. I think, just down to sure trust because
37:37
Speaker 1: they could been they've been seen, no doubt about that.
37:41
Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan with us covering the Senior Bowl and Mobile
37:45
Speaker 1: this week, you know, urban Meyer and Trent Bakey were
37:47
Speaker 1: not in attendance this week. I'm sure there was some
37:50
Speaker 1: other Jaguar representation there though. What was we heard from
37:54
Speaker 1: Albert Bridge just then and the interviews available and you've
37:57
Speaker 1: caught up with a few other folks I know during
37:59
Speaker 1: the weekend mobile. General reaction to the hiring of urban
38:03
Speaker 1: Meyer and the regime change in Jacksonville seems pretty positive
38:08
Speaker 1: for sure. And you almost couldn't get away from it.
38:10
Speaker 1: We were at practice and you're watching the prospects on
38:13
Speaker 1: the field and some would come up to you and say, oh,
38:15
Speaker 1: what about urban Meyer? What about the general manager of
38:17
Speaker 1: number one overall pig. It's gotta be Trevor Lawrence, right.
38:20
Speaker 1: It was everywhere when you were in Jaguars employee and mobile.
38:24
Speaker 1: I'm talking hotel, restaurants. Definitely all the buzz about urban Meyer.
38:29
Speaker 1: And the most interesting part, I think Albert Breer was
38:31
Speaker 1: definitely very much involved in the reporting of urban Meyer
38:35
Speaker 1: coming to Jacksonville. And it was really interesting when he
38:38
Speaker 1: was talking about We heard it in the press conference
38:40
Speaker 1: when Coach Meyer said that he's going to hold his
38:43
Speaker 1: coaches accountable. But Albert Breer was really knowledgeable about that
38:46
Speaker 1: when back in his time at Ohio State saying that
38:49
Speaker 1: it's up to you to coach these players. Players in
38:52
Speaker 1: the NFL, they can play and if they're not up
38:54
Speaker 1: to the level that they're playing, that's on you, the coaches.
38:57
Speaker 1: So it kind of came full circle. We heard that
38:59
Speaker 1: in his press on for instance, Albert Brier echoed that
39:02
Speaker 1: that coach Meyer is going to hold this coaching staff
39:05
Speaker 1: whatever it looks like. He's gonna hold him accountable, no
39:09
Speaker 1: doubt about that. And by the way, Albert Brier is
39:11
Speaker 1: the biggest Ohio State homer there is. I was we
39:16
Speaker 1: were kind of joking around Ashland earlier with Joe and
39:19
Speaker 1: UH and JP and I and this philosophy of holding
39:24
Speaker 1: coaches accountable, and Urban is gonna be quick to blame
39:28
Speaker 1: the coach instead of the player. And there's an old
39:31
Speaker 1: saying is that it can roll downhill. And so the
39:35
Speaker 1: head coach is gonna be on to his assistant because
39:38
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39:41
Speaker 1: other player. And that's the old downhill effect and that
39:45
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing wrong with that, and that's the way
39:47
Speaker 1: it should be. You can't expect head coach to be
39:50
Speaker 1: able to immediately start blaming the player. He has to
39:53
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39:56
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39:58
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40:01
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40:05
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40:08
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you what it was. It
40:13
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40:18
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40:21
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40:24
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40:26
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40:30
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40:33
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40:35
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40:37
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40:40
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40:43
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40:45
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40:48
Speaker 1: that's to come on Jaguars dot com. Be good. Yeah,
40:50
Speaker 1: Bucky has been at his house in Los Angeles this week,
40:52
Speaker 1: which is a big change from his coverage. They're still
40:55
Speaker 1: doing it live like we've do all the shows live
40:58
Speaker 1: throughout the off season, but he's sitting on his couch
41:01
Speaker 1: instead of sitting in the stands and mobile this year,
41:03
Speaker 1: so we'll look forward to that coming up. Ashton, well
41:06
Speaker 1: done this week. I hope you enjoyed Mobile and all
41:09
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41:13
Speaker 1: Sounds good. I'll see Ashland Sullivan out of here, Jaguars Reporter,
41:18
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41:21
Speaker 1: with the crew this week getting some things done. No,
41:24
Speaker 1: I actually saw some of the stuff and uh, and
41:26
Speaker 1: they did a great job. And I really enjoyed listening
41:29
Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks of the last couple of weeks, you know,
41:32
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41:34
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41:39
Speaker 1: I think he does a very good job. And uh,
41:42
Speaker 1: I'd love to be able to spend some time with
41:43
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41:47
Speaker 1: the other thought. Last year obviously that wasn't able to happen.
41:50
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41:53
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41:56
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41:59
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42:03
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42:07
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42:13
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42:15
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42:17
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42:20
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42:24
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42:27
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42:30
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42:33
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42:35
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42:43
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42:48
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lagaman, Glad you're along with us. Final few minutes
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Speaker 1: of the program. Yes, it's only one hour this week,
46:27
Speaker 1: the two hours the thing is gone for the off season.
46:31
Speaker 1: What was the Doug Moron Show then turned into a
46:34
Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the network, But
46:36
Speaker 1: now will be one hour from here until whenever football
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Speaker 1: starts again. What is that August? Well, yeah, maybe July
46:47
Speaker 1: maybe Julian ever know, well, I mean we've started two
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Speaker 1: hours in July before. Okay, yeah, yeah yeah maybe so
46:59
Speaker 1: if things start getting in swing, we might we might
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Speaker 1: beat two out. You know, if we're in the Hall
47:04
Speaker 1: of Fame game in Canton. That'd be a fifth preseason No, no, okay,
47:14
Speaker 1: maybe we would start earlier, but logs would not be involved.
47:17
Speaker 1: The the the lack of preseason games last year was
47:22
Speaker 1: really nice, and I hope that the league learned from
47:26
Speaker 1: last year because I seriously when I say that, I'm
47:29
Speaker 1: not trying to be funny, I'm trying to be serious,
47:32
Speaker 1: and that I think the league learned a lot from
47:36
Speaker 1: the year, and that you don't have to do a
47:41
Speaker 1: lot of things to still have good football played on Sundays,
47:45
Speaker 1: and that you can do some things that are out
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Speaker 1: of the box thinking. And and the only reason that
47:50
Speaker 1: we were able to see some out of the box
47:52
Speaker 1: things was because everybody was forced out of the box
47:56
Speaker 1: with COVID, and so even some of the ads in
48:00
Speaker 1: which television games were broadcasts. There was a couple of
48:03
Speaker 1: games I want to say, Mike Tarico and Tony Romo
48:06
Speaker 1: broadcast from home. Uh, we were broadcasting from the stadium
48:11
Speaker 1: from Jaguars road games, and and we had a tremendous
48:14
Speaker 1: support staff to be able to make that happen, and
48:18
Speaker 1: I thought it was very very well done. And so
48:21
Speaker 1: coaches had to do things that were different, players had
48:25
Speaker 1: to do things that were different, and so much like
48:29
Speaker 1: when Trent Balky earlier was talking about how you never
48:34
Speaker 1: stopped learning in this process, you can never stop learning,
48:37
Speaker 1: and especially when you have a year like and I
48:40
Speaker 1: think the league needs to learn certain things and and
48:43
Speaker 1: when Trent Balky talks about the journey and you're always
48:45
Speaker 1: learning and everything, and he's and he's so true. And
48:49
Speaker 1: you know, going back to Gus Bradley, who he used
48:52
Speaker 1: to say that the three most dangerous words were what
48:55
Speaker 1: JP do you got it? I got it right? Dangerous
48:58
Speaker 1: when you say I got that means you have stopped learning.
49:02
Speaker 1: And so what Gus said and what Trent Balky is
49:05
Speaker 1: talking about about the process of continually learning, it's the
49:10
Speaker 1: same message, the same the same type of thing, just
49:13
Speaker 1: in a different way. And I think the league has
49:15
Speaker 1: learned a lot from and it will be interesting to
49:19
Speaker 1: see what gets implemented on even maybe a more permanent
49:23
Speaker 1: basis going into being in one and beyond. Let's touch
49:28
Speaker 1: on this quarterback carousel that is continuing to add horses
49:33
Speaker 1: to it, if you will. Over the last few days,
49:36
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has requested a trade. The day that the
49:40
Speaker 1: Texans were going to introduce their new head coach, David Culley,
49:45
Speaker 1: the news comes out that he wants out. He does
49:48
Speaker 1: have a new trade class, but he wants out. Matt
49:50
Speaker 1: Stafford among those names that could be moving this offseason.
49:54
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was in that mix, but the Packers would
49:57
Speaker 1: be crazy if that happened, Jamne Newton, Ajamos Winston, just
50:00
Speaker 1: to name a few, and even Adam Schefter ESPN said
50:03
Speaker 1: that there's what about ten to twelve teams that could
50:08
Speaker 1: have their starting quarterback locked in right now for next year.
50:11
Speaker 1: That means that there's two thirds of the league that
50:14
Speaker 1: will have a new starting quarterback next season. There's always
50:17
Speaker 1: turnover at the position, yes, but this feels like one
50:20
Speaker 1: of those off seasons that will remember for a long time. Well,
50:24
Speaker 1: the Jaguars aren't going to be in that category. There'll
50:27
Speaker 1: be one of the two things going in the two thirds.
50:30
Speaker 1: Love but it's kind of being new, but it's a
50:33
Speaker 1: new starting they count new, but it's expected. Well yeah,
50:36
Speaker 1: so that makes it better. I mean, he doesn't doesn't.
50:40
Speaker 1: I don't know he's looking when you're when you're getting
50:42
Speaker 1: a first overall pick on the draft, better be better,
50:44
Speaker 1: better JP. I mean, come on, it can't be much worse.
50:48
Speaker 1: So my point is is that you know who the
50:49
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be in Jacksonville pretty much. I
50:52
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, it's not a deal, but I
50:55
Speaker 1: mean it's about as close to a hundred percent age
50:57
Speaker 1: you can get you know, so I think that's gonna
51:00
Speaker 1: be an exciting year for quarterback play. And that's the reality.
51:03
Speaker 1: The reality is is that if you have one of
51:05
Speaker 1: the third uh, if you're in that third group that
51:08
Speaker 1: has a quarterback and he's coming back, you're pretty good.
51:11
Speaker 1: You know, you're pretty well set. But even some of
51:13
Speaker 1: those I mean, are you really that set and feeling
51:15
Speaker 1: really good about where you're at? The best of the
51:18
Speaker 1: best are the teams that we just saw play well,
51:22
Speaker 1: the ones that are still playing, and the ones that
51:23
Speaker 1: just played and then and then even some of the
51:26
Speaker 1: ones that played before that that were in the playoffs.
51:28
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the playoffs. The playoffs were
51:31
Speaker 1: about teams that had really good quarterbacks, and that's the
51:35
Speaker 1: way it will always be. For the most part. There
51:37
Speaker 1: will be the occasional Okay, you made it somewhere because
51:41
Speaker 1: you had a really good defense and you had a
51:42
Speaker 1: really good running game and your quarterbacks just didn't hurt
51:45
Speaker 1: you and didn't get you beat. But I mean, for
51:47
Speaker 1: the most part, the quarterback is a big reason as
51:50
Speaker 1: to why you have success, and you've gotta have one,
51:52
Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be exciting to be able to
51:55
Speaker 1: watch the growth of a first overall pick of the
51:58
Speaker 1: draft quarterback that the Agards are gonna be able to get.
52:01
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a territory that this
52:04
Speaker 1: franchise has never seen before. This franchise has swung for
52:08
Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks in the past and have that struck out.
52:12
Speaker 1: And this prospect and Trevor Lawrence many considered considered to
52:18
Speaker 1: be on par with like an Andrew Luck. I mean,
52:21
Speaker 1: that's probably the closest thing that and uh and that's
52:25
Speaker 1: out standing. And from watching the film on him and
52:28
Speaker 1: and and I've watched some I haven't watched a thousand
52:31
Speaker 1: hours of film on him, but boy, he's He didn't
52:34
Speaker 1: have a great playoff game there at the end the
52:37
Speaker 1: National championship game, but everything else you turned on in
52:40
Speaker 1: the past National championship games, I mean, this guy is outstanding.
52:44
Speaker 1: He has he has all the tools. I mean, you
52:47
Speaker 1: gotta have the toolbox to have a chance. He's got
52:49
Speaker 1: the toolbox. Now these other teams in the division. Obviously,
52:53
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has retired. He's gonna coach high school football
52:56
Speaker 1: for him Baldwin County, Alabama. Good for him school there.
52:59
Speaker 1: And then if the DeShawn Watson situation continues to escalate
53:03
Speaker 1: and he's no longer in Houston for some reason and
53:06
Speaker 1: playing somewhere else. That means three of the four teams
53:09
Speaker 1: in the division will have new starting quarterback. Can you
53:11
Speaker 1: imagine if you're David Kelley, you're excited he got job,
53:14
Speaker 1: finally got He's been in the league forever, if he's
53:16
Speaker 1: been around forever, has never gotten an opportunity, finally gets
53:19
Speaker 1: his opportunity. And then Deshaun Watson across the trade. I mean,
53:27
Speaker 1: it's a tough situation going in anyway with Watson there
53:30
Speaker 1: if he was even happy and the Texans, the Texans
53:34
Speaker 1: still continue to be a dartboard. I mean really, I
53:38
Speaker 1: mean that that's probably the best way to describe it.
53:40
Speaker 1: I People are throwing darts at him, and it's ever
53:42
Speaker 1: all the darts are sticking, because it's it's hard to
53:45
Speaker 1: argue against some of the criticism that the Texans have
53:47
Speaker 1: been receiving. Do you know we know what that feels like?
53:52
Speaker 1: The last couple of years around here have been that
53:55
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, Well, think about that a little different.
54:00
Speaker 1: And when I say what the difference is is that
54:01
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have been an easy target because you can't
54:05
Speaker 1: argue when you don't win. And that's what the Jaguars
54:10
Speaker 1: in the category they're at, they weren't winning. The Texans
54:13
Speaker 1: have one, but they have a situation on their in
54:18
Speaker 1: their organization that many are taking shots at it. And like,
54:21
Speaker 1: I don't know if if this situation is toxic and bad,
54:25
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, Maybe it'll it'll work out great
54:27
Speaker 1: and they win. I don't know. But the Texans have
54:30
Speaker 1: become a punching bag for those and and that cover
54:35
Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean that really, I mean
54:37
Speaker 1: they have been arguably the number one punching bag target
54:41
Speaker 1: in the league since the end of the season. It's
54:44
Speaker 1: only gonna get worse. I mean for them if this worse,
54:49
Speaker 1: because the Texans don't have the tools to be able
54:51
Speaker 1: to climb out of a whole, and if they don't
54:54
Speaker 1: have a Deshaun Watson to give them a chance, because
54:59
Speaker 1: they have their void of draft picks, they have serious
55:02
Speaker 1: cap issues. They have a lot of things to overcome.
55:07
Speaker 1: And then also the public perception is also one of
55:11
Speaker 1: those things that they're gonna have to overcome. It's gonna
55:14
Speaker 1: be tough, tough going for the Texans. Now sorry about it.
55:19
Speaker 1: And then here's here's a crazy thing that the Cults
55:22
Speaker 1: could end up going back to back years with journeyman
55:25
Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks. That could end up very easily with uh
55:32
Speaker 1: the lines quarterback Stafford, that could end up with him easily.
55:36
Speaker 1: In fact, if if if I were a bet man,
55:39
Speaker 1: I I put that the Cults are probably the most
55:43
Speaker 1: favored destination. They got a pretty good team already in place. Well, yeah,
55:48
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's my point. First, they have the
55:50
Speaker 1: cap room. Um, they are not afraid afraid about acquiring
55:56
Speaker 1: a veteran guy. Now the asking price may be an
55:59
Speaker 1: issue because that's the difference between like a Philip Rivers
56:03
Speaker 1: and um, Matt Stafford. Now you're asking for you gotta
56:07
Speaker 1: give give up compensation. H That to me is interesting,
56:13
Speaker 1: it is and it will be something to watch. This
56:14
Speaker 1: will be a fun couple of months ahead with all
56:17
Speaker 1: those changes coming around the National Football League. And that
56:20
Speaker 1: we'll finish tonight with some news that broke just a
56:24
Speaker 1: little bit ago that the former Jaguars quarterback Mark Brunel
56:29
Speaker 1: is interviewing with the Detroit Lions for the Quarterback Coach
56:32
Speaker 1: Opening Logs. That interesting for him. You know what if
56:38
Speaker 1: if if he if he wants and I hope he
56:40
Speaker 1: gets it. You know, he's uh, Mark, good guy, played
56:44
Speaker 1: a lot of years, played a lot of really good quarterback,
56:48
Speaker 1: knows a lot about the game, knows a lot about
56:50
Speaker 1: the position. Obviously, I think he would be an outstanding
56:55
Speaker 1: coach in the National Football League. And obviously, the the
56:59
Speaker 1: times spent coaching here in Jacksonville at the high school level,
57:03
Speaker 1: I'm sure has helped him out tremendously in the ability
57:06
Speaker 1: to communicate and all that. And so I look, I'm
57:08
Speaker 1: a big Mark Brunel fan, and and I wish him
57:11
Speaker 1: nothing but luck and that if he wants the job,
57:14
Speaker 1: I hope he gets it. I would be fired up
57:17
Speaker 1: for him when he played eighteen years. Yeah, a long
57:21
Speaker 1: time back up after his time here, but still he's
57:24
Speaker 1: been The least crazy thing is that when Mark Burnell
57:27
Speaker 1: was playing twenty years, we were all thinking, golly, nobody
57:31
Speaker 1: ever placed twenty years, you know, and he was a backup.
57:35
Speaker 1: Now here it comes Tom Brady going a super Bowl
57:39
Speaker 1: at forty three, tenth, Super Bowl, ten, super Bowl, what
57:44
Speaker 1: was it? How many championship games did he play? Oh,
57:46
Speaker 1: it's I mean something crazy, you know, so uh and uh,
57:54
Speaker 1: and he just got done facing m Rodgers, who was
57:56
Speaker 1: the thirty seven year old quarterback who just probably capped
57:59
Speaker 1: off a league MVP season. I mean, age for quarterbacks
58:03
Speaker 1: is not a big deal. Now. Obviously they protect the
58:05
Speaker 1: quarterbacks a lot better than they used to, right, And
58:08
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good for that's good for the game. Yeah,
58:12
Speaker 1: it is, it is. That's it's a quarterback game. It's
58:14
Speaker 1: as urban Meyer says, it's it's a quarterback sport, not
58:17
Speaker 1: just a quarterback league. Every league is what you're called hockey.
58:21
Speaker 1: What do you mean, like if you're saying that football
58:25
Speaker 1: is a quarterback sport, okay, in in hockey, is it
58:29
Speaker 1: a goalie sport, a center sport? It's you gotta score
58:33
Speaker 1: more goals? Right? Yeah, but my JP, my point is
58:36
Speaker 1: that if you had to single out one position and
58:38
Speaker 1: other sports to say that hockey is a goalie sport,
58:44
Speaker 1: or that baseball is a it's a pitcher or a
58:49
Speaker 1: RBI like a drive in runs, Yeah, that's not that's
58:53
Speaker 1: not a position. Man. Well that anybody can do that.
58:58
Speaker 1: Anybody can do what driving run? I'm so confused, Thank goodness.
59:05
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59:13
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59:18
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59:21
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59:24
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59:28
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59:32
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59:36
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