Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NTCOSS's Sarah Holder says we need to be looking at more energy efficiency as the NT's power price increase and general cost of living impacts households
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- 0:00Speaker 1: But unfortunately the cost of living right now in the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Northern Territory and right around Australia, it is set to
- 0:06Speaker 1: be I think one of the biggest issues as the
- 0:08Speaker 1: federal budget is handed down next week and we are
- 0:12Speaker 1: all waiting to hear whether there are going to be
- 0:14Speaker 1: sort of any reprieves I suppose, or any any bonuses
- 0:19Speaker 1: whatever they maybe want to call them when it comes
- 0:22Speaker 1: to things like petrol and other cost of living expenses.
- 0:25Speaker 1: But joining me on the line to tell us a
- 0:27Speaker 1: little bit more about how some territorians are coping at
- 0:30Speaker 1: the moment. It is the NT cost so NT Council
- 0:34Speaker 1: of Social Services here in the Northern Territory, Senior Policy
- 0:38Speaker 1: Officer Sarah Hold. Good morning to you, Sarah.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Sarah. We know that the cost of living around the
- 0:45Speaker 1: territory at the moment, I would imagine that it's really
- 0:49Speaker 1: quite high, particularly when you look at things like the
- 0:51Speaker 1: rising cost of petrol.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Katie. We don't have the current CPI data,
- 0:58Speaker 2: but when we were looking out of the Gymmer Price
- 1:00Speaker 2: Index data, but when we were looking at a last year,
- 1:04Speaker 2: we can see that it costs were increasing right across
- 1:07Speaker 2: the Northern territory and it's just disproportionately high in places
- 1:13Speaker 2: like Darwin in comparison to the rest of the country.
- 1:16Speaker 2: But then it's even higher again when you are outside Darwin.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine so, particularly in some of those
- 1:22Speaker 1: regional and more remote areas, it would be very high.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Yeah. When we were looking at the fuel data for
- 1:30Speaker 2: December last year, the average price of unlettered duel in
- 1:33Speaker 2: Darwin was then a dollar sixty nine or thereabout, sense Falda,
- 1:37Speaker 2: and in Central Australia the average price is two hundred
- 1:40Speaker 2: and eighty cents palia. And again it's higher when you
- 1:42Speaker 2: go into other you know, into the remote communities and
- 1:46Speaker 2: places like can increase et cetera.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, we're talking last week as
- 1:51Speaker 1: well about not only is it the cost of petrol
- 1:53Speaker 1: that's going up or that is you know, is sky
- 1:55Speaker 1: high right now, but the impact that that has on
- 1:58Speaker 1: things like our food and going out and buying our groceries.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Yeah. So if the impact of fuel costs isn't just
- 2:07Speaker 2: on when you're fueling up at the pump, it impacts
- 2:11Speaker 2: as you say, it impacts our growthery and impacts pretty
- 2:14Speaker 2: much everything particularly for the Northern Territory where transport costs
- 2:17Speaker 2: are so high. It really does it drugs up prices
- 2:20Speaker 2: right across the boards.
- 2:22Speaker 1: And I also noted in the paper today that it
- 2:25Speaker 1: was being reported that Territorians are obviously feeling the heat
- 2:28Speaker 1: more than ever. As the effects of two point three
- 2:31Speaker 1: are two point three percent July electricity rates rise begins
- 2:35Speaker 1: to show. Is this something else that's that's of a
- 2:38Speaker 1: concern for you guys right now?
- 2:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge concern. So we know that living
- 2:43Speaker 2: in the NT does mean at times living in dangerously
- 2:46Speaker 2: hot conditions, and there's some recent data that's come out
- 2:49Speaker 2: that show the temperatures in many rental homes are actually
- 2:51Speaker 2: frequently above safe limits. And so we know that it's
- 2:55Speaker 2: so cooling energy needs right across the NT, but also
- 2:58Speaker 2: heating needs for people in Central Australian winter they're really
- 3:02Speaker 2: high in the NT and this is primarily because of
- 3:04Speaker 2: the quality of building and the ANT is the only
- 3:07Speaker 2: place in Australia where we only have five star minimum
- 3:09Speaker 2: energy rating for new buildings, whereas everywhere else in Australia
- 3:13Speaker 2: it's a minimum of six ster. And there's some places
- 3:16Speaker 2: in Australia that are considering moving to seven star ratings.
- 3:19Speaker 2: So we really need to see high energy efficiency standards
- 3:22Speaker 2: in all new builds, and we need to also look
- 3:24Speaker 2: at existing dwellings to see what their needs are and
- 3:27Speaker 2: what we can do to improve their energy efficiency.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Yeah, it is tough for a lot of people at
- 3:33Speaker 1: the moment as those different different living expenses go up.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I know it's really hard. Are you seeing a demand
- 3:39Speaker 1: in the need for services and for support around the
- 3:43Speaker 1: NT right now?
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely know that more people are looking for
- 3:48Speaker 2: emergency relief from our members and also just looking to
- 3:52Speaker 2: access social supports and things like dealing with increased anxiety
- 4:00Speaker 2: and those sorts of stresses as well. So yeah, we're
- 4:02Speaker 2: definitely seeing any impact on services.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And Sarah, I don't want to preempt anything too early on,
- 4:07Speaker 1: but we know that the federal budget is due to
- 4:09Speaker 1: be handed down next week. Are there certain things that
- 4:12Speaker 1: that NT costs are waiting to see if they are
- 4:16Speaker 1: in there to try and help those territories that are
- 4:19Speaker 1: going through a tough patch.
- 4:21Speaker 2: We don't think it's going to happen, but we would
- 4:25Speaker 2: really love to see a simple and better investment from
- 4:30Speaker 2: the federal government into easing immediately easing cost of living presses,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and we want to see that through lifting income, including
- 4:39Speaker 2: substantially increasing the remote area allowance, increasing job seeker UTH allowance,
- 4:44Speaker 2: and we also would like to see them improve sorry
- 4:49Speaker 2: access to housing and essential services. And APOST is also
- 4:54Speaker 2: calling for one thousand dollars per household for emergency energy
- 4:59Speaker 2: get relief to reduce any energy payment difficulties made worse
- 5:02Speaker 2: by COVID.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so so that one thousand dollars boat. Oh,
- 5:07Speaker 1: I don't know what did you call it a debt
- 5:09Speaker 1: relief or a relief payment?
- 5:11Speaker 2: I guess real? Yeah, yeah, so you look, that's Acos's line,
- 5:17Speaker 2: and we think that would be a great idea and
- 5:19Speaker 2: that would certainly be applicable to people and the ant
- 5:21Speaker 2: as you know, we did see through some of the
- 5:23Speaker 2: lockdowns that people their power, their prepayment, the credit ran
- 5:29Speaker 2: out and they were left without power. So we do
- 5:31Speaker 2: think that this would be a really good way to
- 5:32Speaker 2: address those sorts of.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Concerns well NT cost Senior policy Officers, Sarah Holder, I
- 5:38Speaker 1: really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks very much for
- 5:40Speaker 1: having a.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Chat with us. Thanks so much for having me on.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Thank you