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O-Zone Podcast: Keelan Cole · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star
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Speaker 1: Credit Union, featuring Jaguar senior writer John Osher and executive
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Speaker 1: producer Dave Decandis. This week's guest is an interesting story
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Speaker 1: to me. He's a guy who flashed on the scene
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Speaker 1: to use that cliche in two thousand seventeen and then
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Speaker 1: was not as productive, sort of disappeared at times a
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Speaker 1: little bit in two thousand eighteen and nineteen, but really
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Speaker 1: has come on this year to be a key part
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Speaker 1: of this offense. I think by now most Jaguars fans
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Speaker 1: can deduce that I'm talking about wide receiver Heal and
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Speaker 1: Cole on this week's of his own podcast, Kilan, I
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Speaker 1: considered this for you a big year coming in. Did
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Speaker 1: you feel that way? Did you feel like it was
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Speaker 1: a big year and an important year? I guess? And
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Speaker 1: are you quote satisfied with this year? Even though I
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Speaker 1: know satisfied as the word you guys used, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I knew that they was gonna for sure to make
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Speaker 1: us get through the season. So I took advantage of
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Speaker 1: the time that we had off and was continuing to
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Speaker 1: work through workout and stuff like that, uh in my
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Speaker 1: garage and stuff. So I was definitely ready to come
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Speaker 1: through and make it a big season. Where are you
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Speaker 1: better now than you were as a rookie, because you
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Speaker 1: were good as a rookie, but it strikes me you're
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Speaker 1: a different player. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Just um, I guess
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Speaker 1: be uncomfortable rookie year. I just came straight from division
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Speaker 1: to talent, uh, competition, talent. I'm gonna say talent. The
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Speaker 1: D two boys got talent to So I mean it
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Speaker 1: was just a whole different speed and just it was
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Speaker 1: all the way different. And I'm glad I adapted as
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Speaker 1: quick as I did when I came in, but then
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Speaker 1: I had to slow it down and actually figure out
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Speaker 1: what I was adapting to. I felt like my rookie year,
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Speaker 1: I was really just playing football trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: my way in and was successful in the same time,
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Speaker 1: rather than really knowing what I was doing that was
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Speaker 1: making me say successful. So I just had to continue
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Speaker 1: to go through all the situations that you go through
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Speaker 1: as a as an athlete and just figure out what
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Speaker 1: I was comfortable with doing. I want to get to
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Speaker 1: that process here in a second. But for people who
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Speaker 1: don't know, and I know you've talked about it before,
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Speaker 1: but I'm interested with four years of perspective, how big
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Speaker 1: of a difference was that jump you made in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen. I know you sort of knew it then,
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Speaker 1: but with four years to look back on it, how
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Speaker 1: extreme was that leap? I mean, really, it's just uh,
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Speaker 1: when you when you when you started levels that like
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Speaker 1: do you do you want to stuff like that you
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Speaker 1: get I want to say better coaching. Really it's just
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Speaker 1: not really better coaching, just coaches with more experience. Coaches
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Speaker 1: have been here, they're even players. You've You've had players
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Speaker 1: that have been the different coaches. They travel around do
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Speaker 1: you one do so from school to school, so you
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Speaker 1: learn a lot, You get to experience a lot. And
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Speaker 1: then most of those people that you meet in D
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Speaker 1: one are in the league. So that's a that's really
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Speaker 1: uh experience that I didn't get to get while I
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Speaker 1: was in college. It was just more like I didn't
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Speaker 1: have nobody helped me through the process of learning what
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Speaker 1: I needed to be best at and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: So when I got here, I learned it from the
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Speaker 1: from the players that was on the team and the coaches.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just proud that I was able to adapt fast.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't fast enough, but it was definitely it could
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Speaker 1: have been worse than definitely. Um, definitely grateful for the
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Speaker 1: process that I've been through. Your road is fascinating to
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Speaker 1: me because it's not a normal rookie free agent road.
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Speaker 1: You came in in seventeen and had success and then
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Speaker 1: in eighteen and nineteen not as much success as two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen. So but take me through that road.
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Speaker 1: And was it difficult at times the last couple of years, Um,
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Speaker 1: not really. It was just really just playing football and uh,
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Speaker 1: playing my role. The last few years. I just feel
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Speaker 1: like my role wasn't as big as it was rookie year.
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Speaker 1: Rookie year, it was more I had to step in
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Speaker 1: and help the help the older guys who was getting hurt,
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Speaker 1: and I was just more healthy and ready to go
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Speaker 1: at the time. So I feel like the as the
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Speaker 1: years go on, you know, business players as roles and
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Speaker 1: you just gotta play where you stay. And I was
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Speaker 1: playing my road as the best way I could. It
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Speaker 1: just wasn't as great as the first one, like I said,
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Speaker 1: with but as we go on, I'm gonna keep trying
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Speaker 1: to make my role as big as I can. And
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Speaker 1: keep making my play. So I uh, I keep beating
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Speaker 1: my milestones I got and I'm assuming you're not going
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Speaker 1: to share those miles stones with me. Oh no, I
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Speaker 1: don't have any mouthstones. I'm trying to make anything possible,
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Speaker 1: two thousand yards in the season, whatever it's. I don't
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Speaker 1: do what they say. Every rick is uh meant to
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Speaker 1: be broken. Now, are you a goal guy coming into seasons?
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Speaker 1: Do you set tangible goals or how does that work?
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Speaker 1: Season too long to do that college? Yeah, we can
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Speaker 1: do that, but season way too long to be trying
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Speaker 1: to set goes for a seventeen week season. It's more
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Speaker 1: the goal is we boy, we try to win and
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Speaker 1: do the best you can within your games. Try to
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Speaker 1: be on the field each week, right, and that's that's
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Speaker 1: the that's the go throughout the week, and then once
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Speaker 1: you get there, that goes definitely to win and just
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Speaker 1: play your role. Now, when Jay talked to the media
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Speaker 1: this week, Coach Gruden, he talked a lot about he
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Speaker 1: has asked you to play more inside, more in the
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Speaker 1: slot than maybe have in the past. Uh, tell me
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Speaker 1: about that adjustment, and I guess to me about playing
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Speaker 1: the slot, that's a different destan outside isn't. Honestly, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I was a raw mind when it came
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Speaker 1: to receiver. I ain't start playing receiver till I got
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Speaker 1: to college, so that was just something that I've always
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Speaker 1: been doing. I don't really understand the difference between outside
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Speaker 1: and inside other than there's big boys in the inside
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Speaker 1: and there's not in on the outside. So and that's
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Speaker 1: that's as honest as my inns can get. I really
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Speaker 1: I don't see a difficulty in playing inside or outside.
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Speaker 1: I honestly think it's the same thing, same routes. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, it's just more people in the inside than
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Speaker 1: it is outside. But I'm not scared to get hit,
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Speaker 1: so I guess that would be the only difference from
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Speaker 1: the inside. So no trepidation at all. Like you're playing
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Speaker 1: the slot. You're not the biggest receiver in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't bother in there. Guy, don't like it
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Speaker 1: in there? No, I mean I like that. I like
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Speaker 1: the contact. I mean it's probably one of the only
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Speaker 1: sports that you can actually hear somebody, so I mean
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Speaker 1: in its legal, So I mean it's just I don't
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Speaker 1: mind the contact. I'm shoot inside outside tight end backfield.
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Speaker 1: I feel comfortable. I got you now before we move
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Speaker 1: on big hits. You mentioned that and you've taken some,
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Speaker 1: but you always get Is that a pride thing? Is
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Speaker 1: it just something that you're built to do or because
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Speaker 1: you've taken some shots. Honestly, I honestly love contact, like
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Speaker 1: I just I guess I was just a rough person,
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Speaker 1: a rough kid growing up, and just enjoy the physicality.
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Speaker 1: But I mean it hurts. I ain't gonna I ain't
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Speaker 1: gone act like I just get up a smiling like Leavisco.
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Speaker 1: I ain't getting up smiling clapping my hands when I
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Speaker 1: get hit. But it's definitely like a little fun thing
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Speaker 1: like oh that woke me up. All right, let's keep going.
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get hit. I'm not talking like that,
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Speaker 1: not at all, not running into contact. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: every once in a while, it's it's good to get
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Speaker 1: some physicality. And I know that you're playing some some
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Speaker 1: football still and you've got to kind of have that
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Speaker 1: reputation with dvs, right, I mean, like they know from
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Speaker 1: watching film, they know that just a shot at choose
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Speaker 1: and not gonna bring you down. But did you ever
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Speaker 1: get hit at Wesleyan remotely like you've been hit in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Not even is that a huge difference, not
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Speaker 1: even close. I don't even think I got tackled like that.
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Speaker 1: I got tackled, but it wasn't It wasn't like, no,
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Speaker 1: I ain't I wouldn't getting smacked. And that's another thing
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Speaker 1: I was saying. That's just the game was so so
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Speaker 1: much faster now, like even like I would probably be
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Speaker 1: able to see it in college rather than now. You
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Speaker 1: can't see it at all. As soon as you catch
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Speaker 1: the ball and turned around the right there. If you
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Speaker 1: had known how much different it was, would you come
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Speaker 1: in with any confidence? Uh mean? I came in with
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Speaker 1: uh actually a lot of confidence just because I was
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Speaker 1: so I still wasn't told that, A, this is what's
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Speaker 1: gonna happen when you get here. It was more like
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Speaker 1: raw mind that I still came in with the wrong
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Speaker 1: mind of all right, I just gotta come in and
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Speaker 1: make me plays to catch every ball. So are you
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Speaker 1: still proving people wrong? I mean that's still a thing
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Speaker 1: for you. You know me, I don't do social media
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Speaker 1: and stuff like it's a I don't really be caring
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Speaker 1: what people be thinking. I know what I gotta do
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Speaker 1: tell me about this receiver room. We're not around, like
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Speaker 1: the media is not around as much because I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you guys like, but it seems like this receiver room
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Speaker 1: it must be fun to be a part of this year. Definite.
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Speaker 1: It's very exciting just to know that whoever gets the
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Speaker 1: ball is gonna be a different it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: different vibe, but it's gonna be an exciting play regardless. Uh,
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Speaker 1: definitely a little the way Viscer runs the ball a lot,
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Speaker 1: the way Chart goes up and gets it. Uh, even
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Speaker 1: when Chris comes in, big big, big strong mountains just running. Uh,
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Speaker 1: that's it's always fun and just seeing everybody's different attributes
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Speaker 1: come together as the drive continues to go down the field.
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Speaker 1: I can't leave out the running backs too, because they
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Speaker 1: got some receiving yards too. So my boy Spinner and
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Speaker 1: Chris Thompson shout out to them. They're a smaller tight
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Speaker 1: ends to gotta give him. Shout out to Dan. That's
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Speaker 1: all I saw. Now, you say you like contact and
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Speaker 1: you see what lavisca can do in the backfield, do
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Speaker 1: you lobby for that? Is that keep in Cole's future? No,
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Speaker 1: he got it as long as as long as Labisca
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Speaker 1: is a receiver with me, which I hope it goes
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Speaker 1: for a long time. I do not want to run
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Speaker 1: the ball, give him the ball. I would love to
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Speaker 1: take a handoff and all. But if he's right there,
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Speaker 1: he's the best fit for us, So I would definitely
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Speaker 1: let him run the ball over me anytime in the
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Speaker 1: receiver room. I don't know you guys that well. Who
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Speaker 1: keeps it white? Who's the jokester? Is that you? Period?
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Speaker 1: He's the guy that is a hundred and ten percent
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Speaker 1: the person? And final questions about your other teammates, what's uh?
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Speaker 1: DJ Shark seems like a quiet guy. Is he always
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Speaker 1: that way around you guys? Or is he let loose?
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Speaker 1: M hmm? It depends. Did you ask him this question already?
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Speaker 1: Did you? Does he know that y'all know what y'all think?
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Speaker 1: He's like that? Yes, DJ? That uh, not personally, I
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Speaker 1: mean he's not over the top. Yeah, he liked that
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Speaker 1: with us then, so I don't know. I'm gonna keep
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Speaker 1: it like that, all right. Fair You've been with Keenan
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Speaker 1: now for four years. Keenan mccarde. Jaguars fans love talking
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Speaker 1: about keen and he's the guy. Where has he helped
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Speaker 1: you the most? Would you be the guy you are
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Speaker 1: right now the receiver without him? I guess not at all.
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Speaker 1: When I, like I said, when I got here, I
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Speaker 1: was wrong minded and I was just I guess, more
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Speaker 1: athletic than anything fast learner for sure. But after coming
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Speaker 1: in and learning what he was teaching us from and
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Speaker 1: then seeing like I said before, people like Alan Hernes
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Speaker 1: and Alan Robinson. Uh really has been people who's been
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Speaker 1: in the league and my rookie year coming in and
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Speaker 1: they was already on year five and actually where I
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Speaker 1: am now like they when I came in, they was
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Speaker 1: on the years I am now. So it was good
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Speaker 1: to see and know that they was there. They've been
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Speaker 1: through the same stuff. Um. I was lucky to have
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Speaker 1: Alan Hernes because he went through the same exact process
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Speaker 1: as me, I mean from I guess from the undrafted
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Speaker 1: up and I got lucky on the behalf of having
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Speaker 1: coach and having the players that he had, so that
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Speaker 1: that way I could uh have a good example of
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Speaker 1: what he was coaching because he was basically Keenan was
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Speaker 1: basically I mean, had he come out now, he wouldn't
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Speaker 1: been drafted. He's a twelfth round pick. So he relates
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Speaker 1: to you guys, his confidence would be uh, like he
11:50
Speaker 1: got drafted before the draft, that's what you would thinking.
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Speaker 1: He thought you would think he had an NBA pick
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Speaker 1: and he got picked up before the draft started. He
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Speaker 1: was number one overall of his That's that's the confidence.
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Speaker 1: That's the confidence he got. Being around him, you would
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Speaker 1: never know where you were drafted. Right. He didn't treat
12:07
Speaker 1: a first round pick any difference. Everybody everybody the same
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Speaker 1: from and when I when I say everybody, I mean
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Speaker 1: everybody from practice squad too. So we can use it
12:16
Speaker 1: from practice squad, the DJ chart, that's the that's the
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in the room. So we're gonna use it
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Speaker 1: like that. He's gonna he's gonna be on everybody to
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Speaker 1: the little piece of your big toe didn't move. And
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Speaker 1: him as supposed to. What's the most he's ever gotten
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Speaker 1: on it? Oh, he on me, he on me, he
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Speaker 1: wi me tough. I respect he me tough. I think
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Speaker 1: it's just because he took my name before I was born.
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Speaker 1: He took my name, that's my name, and he just
12:41
Speaker 1: took it and then put it in in it. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's he's on me to the littlest of
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Speaker 1: the little I respecting a lot that absorb it and
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Speaker 1: learn and keep it moving. The final thing we do
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Speaker 1: king is uh, I caught the ozone fight? Why five
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Speaker 1: fast questions? It's fine, we'll get you out of your
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Speaker 1: quick all right. I was doing five for Stephen Cole
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Speaker 1: your last binge? Watch I watch TV? Okay, it's been
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Speaker 1: a long time since then too, so I think it
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Speaker 1: was just it was this TV show called Under under
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Speaker 1: the Dome. Okay, that's old. It was like, I couldn't
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Speaker 1: tell you I was in kind I was last on watch,
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Speaker 1: never watched. How many of your teammates don't watch TV? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I might just beat me. I like that. What's the
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Speaker 1: last song you listened to eat your headphones to your car.
13:39
Speaker 1: I've been listening to um, that Gucci Man, that new
13:43
Speaker 1: Gucci man called so Icy two. I think how many
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Speaker 1: times since the Catch? Have people talk to you about
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Speaker 1: the new England cap every day? Every day? If I
13:54
Speaker 1: seen him, they'd be like, yeah, there's a nice catch.
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Speaker 1: Gets to Patriot, same line every time. It doesn't matter who.
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Speaker 1: What was your best growing up? Your best Halloween costume?
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's a good one. I was always a
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Speaker 1: football player up to a certain age. But I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: go with the first one. When I was Simba, I
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Speaker 1: like that small my son within the lion King wheelhouse.
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Speaker 1: Was that age? If you if you weren't a football player,
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Speaker 1: what sport would you play growing up? Which best sport
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Speaker 1: sets football? Get? Honestly, damn, it's a toss up between
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Speaker 1: basketball and baseball. That's right. You were a baseball player, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're pretty good. I have some work to do in baseball.
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Speaker 1: I was good. I was a good fielder, Batton was.
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Speaker 1: I definitely have some work. So but I'm gonna go.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with baseball. Keep and Cole get back
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Speaker 1: to work. I appreciate you joining the answera In podcast.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you all right. I again
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Speaker 1: want to thank hepen Cole for joining the podcast this week.
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Speaker 1: For these guys to take time during the season during
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Speaker 1: what is you know, if any badge right now? Difficult season? Uh,
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Speaker 1: and the other things to do besides this, So it's
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Speaker 1: always appreciated, and I appreciate them taking the time to
15:06
Speaker 1: try to think about some ridiculous questions sometimes. So Dave
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Speaker 1: Heelan has always been interesting to me for the reason
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Speaker 1: I sited at the top unbelievable rookie season where he
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Speaker 1: flashed they used in an executive way that he was
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Speaker 1: good at at the time, and then he really didn't
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Speaker 1: go there with me on the question. But I still
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Speaker 1: believe that eighteen and nineteen he was sort of learning
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Speaker 1: how to play the game still and sort of learning
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Speaker 1: how to become an NFL wide receiver. I think those
15:35
Speaker 1: years had to be a little tougher than he would
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Speaker 1: admit to on this. But in about midway through last
15:42
Speaker 1: year two thousand nineteen, he started coming back a little bit,
15:45
Speaker 1: getting more of a role, and this year he's been
15:48
Speaker 1: one of the pleasant surprises on the team. Yeah, it's funny.
15:52
Speaker 1: So I have this kind of always tell the story.
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Speaker 1: Uh So, I have a friend who was a huge
16:00
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes fan. When Alan Hearns was was was going
16:05
Speaker 1: through the off season program and stuff. He knew, you know,
16:07
Speaker 1: I worked for the Jacks, Like, hey, how how's Alan Hearns?
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Speaker 1: And I remember saying, I just look good, but you know,
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Speaker 1: he's undrafted guys, so he might be on the track squad.
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Speaker 1: And he kept asking me and asking me, and I
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Speaker 1: remember at some point, you know, halfway through training camp,
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Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, he's probably gonna make the roster.
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Speaker 1: He's pretty good. A couple of years later, I did
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Speaker 1: the same thing with Keelan Cole with a different friend
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Speaker 1: who it's a big Jacks fan, would ask me about
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Speaker 1: Kill and Cole I kind of said the same thing,
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Speaker 1: and then about halfway through camp, you go, this guy
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Speaker 1: is pretty good, probably should have been probably should have
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Speaker 1: been drafted, And uh, it's just like I always find
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Speaker 1: those stories pretty cool, of like, these guys are kind
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Speaker 1: of and Kielan's even I think cooler than then, like
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Speaker 1: we're talking about with Alan Hearns, it's just a Division
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Speaker 1: two guy played against not a whole lot of NFL talent,
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Speaker 1: if any, and then all of a sudden comes in,
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Speaker 1: comes into a camp and comes into an off season
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Speaker 1: um in the NFL, and all of a sudden, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you remember that year he was a star of training camp,
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Speaker 1: everybody was talking about him, and then got his chance
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Speaker 1: in a seventeen and and played well and was in
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Speaker 1: the lineup for for most a year because of injury
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Speaker 1: and did a good job. And it's nice to see
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Speaker 1: him now this year kind of getting back to some
17:17
Speaker 1: of that stuff he was doing in seventeen and probably
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Speaker 1: and and beyond that. And he's definitely one of my
17:22
Speaker 1: favorite guys in the locker room. Always he's talking about
17:25
Speaker 1: the fans like him because he's friendly and nice. I mean,
17:27
Speaker 1: that's how I would describe him as always friendly, always talking,
17:31
Speaker 1: likes to goof around. I made an appearance, Uh, he
17:35
Speaker 1: was miked up against the Houston Texans. I made an
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Speaker 1: appearances mike up segment if you see in Jaguars dot Com.
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Speaker 1: But like, that's how he is. He's always messing with
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Speaker 1: us and and goofing around and and it seems like
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Speaker 1: he really just enjoys football and that's really cool to
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Speaker 1: kind of be around. And you know, he really likes
17:51
Speaker 1: the game and likes the fun aspect of it. I
17:54
Speaker 1: get Hi a lot of credit for a couple of
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Speaker 1: things he as a rookie, he made an impact. He
18:00
Speaker 1: made an impact. If you recall there was a run
18:03
Speaker 1: oriented team in seventeen. It ran the ball well, and
18:06
Speaker 1: he really made his impact when Bordles would find him deep.
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Speaker 1: There was the Seattle pass that of course, it's probably
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Speaker 1: the biggest play of that season in a way, when
18:16
Speaker 1: he caught the eighty four yard touchdown and everyone wasn't
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Speaker 1: that long, but and he had some long receptions. They
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Speaker 1: really made a huge impact. But he was the deep guy,
18:27
Speaker 1: and they didn't use him intermediate that much, or I
18:30
Speaker 1: don't recall them doing that that much. Well, that's not
18:33
Speaker 1: really where the offense is right now, and Gruden is
18:36
Speaker 1: playing him more in the slot, even though heilan really
18:39
Speaker 1: doesn't know what the slot is, evidently, but he has
18:43
Speaker 1: adapted to that, and again he maybe it's good that
18:46
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the difference, because it's not an easy
18:49
Speaker 1: transition to make, and they've been playing him more inside.
18:53
Speaker 1: He takes the hits. I don't think most people would
18:55
Speaker 1: have thought before this season as Keelan Cole was a
18:58
Speaker 1: big across the middle guy making tough catches, he thought
19:01
Speaker 1: of more as a deep guy. So I credit him
19:04
Speaker 1: for that. I find it fascinating and probably telling that
19:09
Speaker 1: he didn't really know much about what people say about him.
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Speaker 1: He's had a social media guy, he's had a TV guy.
19:18
Speaker 1: He's his own guy. I don't know what I would
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Speaker 1: do without TV Dave. I'd be lost. I wouldn't have
19:22
Speaker 1: a child without TV right well, or or any hobbies,
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Speaker 1: because you know that's all you did, but during the quarantine,
19:30
Speaker 1: what else is there to do? You've been watched. He
19:32
Speaker 1: had new clue, but wouldn't wouldn't take the pace. I
19:35
Speaker 1: think there's something to that. He obviously has stayed focused,
19:39
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't listen to outside noise. Because in training camp
19:43
Speaker 1: this year there were questions would Clan make the team.
19:46
Speaker 1: I never doubt he was gonna make the team. I
19:48
Speaker 1: thought he was clearly based on the end of last year.
19:51
Speaker 1: I thought, if anything before last season, early last season,
19:55
Speaker 1: I wondered, But he was really good at the end
19:57
Speaker 1: of last year and and was sort of starting to
19:59
Speaker 1: find his feet under him. I thought, I didn't die
20:02
Speaker 1: to make the team this year. I didn't know that
20:04
Speaker 1: he would be the third receiver. I didn't know that
20:06
Speaker 1: he would be ahead of D. D. Westbrook on the
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Speaker 1: depth chart. That's an accomplishment for Keeling. So he's a
20:11
Speaker 1: different guy. I enjoyed talking to, enjoyed learning a little
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Speaker 1: bit about him, And uh, I don't know with him
20:18
Speaker 1: what happens in the future. Who knows what the future
20:20
Speaker 1: is for somebody who's not in his contract or he's
20:22
Speaker 1: in his contract here, but he's going to be a
20:25
Speaker 1: guy who went from underrafted free agent to being fringe
20:30
Speaker 1: role guy here. To me, there's no question he's gonna
20:33
Speaker 1: play in this league a long time. At this point,
20:35
Speaker 1: he's established himself as an NFL wide receiver. That's not
20:38
Speaker 1: easy to do. Yeah, and uh, you know, you don't
20:41
Speaker 1: know what's his future here, but you know what he's
20:43
Speaker 1: done is he's gonna make it difficult for for management
20:46
Speaker 1: to making decision about And when we were talking about players,
20:49
Speaker 1: and one one big player that stands out for me
20:51
Speaker 1: from seventeen from him was in the Pittsburgh playoff game
20:54
Speaker 1: and he had that forty yard reception that set it
20:56
Speaker 1: up the the go ahead score and and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: and that's the one take away I got. You know,
21:03
Speaker 1: you kind of alluded to it when you're talking about
21:04
Speaker 1: doesn't watch TVs on social media. It's he just seems
21:07
Speaker 1: like the kind of guy that comes in is just
21:09
Speaker 1: he's about ball, and he comes in and doesn't care
21:12
Speaker 1: if he's playing the slot, the outside, or wherever. I mean,
21:15
Speaker 1: he wants to come in and and perform to his
21:17
Speaker 1: highest level. And uh and that's good, I mean, and
21:20
Speaker 1: that'll get you a long way probably in the NFL.
21:22
Speaker 1: And as most things in life, hard work it's overrating.
21:27
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you gotta here, you got all here on talent, John, Yeah,
21:32
Speaker 1: well yeah look where I am, um with hard work
21:37
Speaker 1: as the final segue, if you will, this was not hardly.
21:43
Speaker 1: Talking to Keilan is very enjoyable. I enjoyed it. I
21:46
Speaker 1: think most people who've heard this today maybe have a
21:49
Speaker 1: little better insight into Keling the Jaguars wide receivers. A
21:53
Speaker 1: good guy. I want to thank you for joining us again.
21:55
Speaker 1: I also want to thank Joe Fortunado for again taking
21:59
Speaker 1: out all the things would make me sound like an idiot,
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Speaker 1: make me look good. Dave, I want to thank you
22:03
Speaker 1: again for being you and for being on with us.
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Speaker 1: That was the Ozone podcast. One was Keeping Cold did
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Speaker 1: not suck, and we'll try better next year.