Latest / DMV Mess Hall / "Sea of Green" episode 197
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- 0:00Hi folks, this is Rick Doc Walker to DOC.
- 0:02This is John Kind and you're listening to the mess hall with
- 0:05rally captain and Tailgate Ted. What's going on?
- 0:10Rally You ready for that last home game of the season?
- 0:14I'm so ready for that. I told everyone that I'm wearing
- 0:17throwback, and so because we were the Redskins, I'm wearing
- 0:21Redskins gear to culminate this Christmas Day matchup between
- 0:27the Redskins and the Dallas Cowboys for this week.
- 0:31I hear you, man. It's before we get into this
- 0:34week. We definitely got to talk about
- 0:36last week. Yeah, we got to talk about it,
- 0:38bro. Cuz you said some things that,
- 0:40that that kind of threw me for a loop.
- 0:43So I, I need to know, man. I'm like Clint Eastwood, you got
- 0:455 bullets or six bullets. I need to know.
- 0:47I I need to know Dirty hairy. That was dirty hairy, by the
- 0:50way. So last week was it was an
- 0:54interesting time, right? You know, it's a Saturday game
- 0:57against the Eagles. And 1st off, thank you to
- 1:00everybody that donated tickets to Warrior Wishes.
- 1:04I had a bunch of those guys and gals come on through.
- 1:08There was an Eagles family that actually came on through.
- 1:10I'm thinking, I know I didn't approve you to come hang out
- 1:13with the tailgate. So what what's this about?
- 1:15But they were through Warrior Wishes, we gladly hosted them,
- 1:18made sure they were fed, they had a good time and appreciate
- 1:22all of you all for donating your seats.
- 1:24And I know some people have donated them for the Cowboys
- 1:26game on Christmas as well. So hats off to all of y'all for
- 1:29doing that. You know, you definitely made
- 1:30their day and help some people out.
- 1:33So I'm there and I'm hanging out and I'm cooking, I'm doing
- 1:37everything. The parking lot is, is pretty
- 1:39much dead. There's not a lot out there,
- 1:42right? And I mean, what time did you
- 1:44get to the game, to the stadium? So it was 5:00 game.
- 1:49I got there probably about 145, two o'clock.
- 1:53OK, so the red zone lot opens up at noon, What the scene look
- 1:57like at 1:45 or two? See a green OK in the red zone
- 2:03to put it to put it to put it mildly, I see a green in the red
- 2:07zone lot. Yes, that's crazy.
- 2:09Man. I ride in with my with my
- 2:11homeboy Rodney, with the Commanders truck, Redskin truck,
- 2:17Washington football team truck, if you want to say, because he's
- 2:20he's got all three on there. And all the Eagles fans were
- 2:23just pointing. It was like, that's a nice
- 2:25truck. That's a nice truck, but too bad
- 2:26you're going to lose. And hey man, it, it was just a
- 2:30sea of green, you know, looking. Out with the command corner?
- 2:33Or like, do they just have their own tailgates?
- 2:35Going they they just were there anywhere you turned they were
- 2:39there and walking through the lots to even to get to you.
- 2:42It was green. I mean, that's just how it was.
- 2:45But I but but before I go into that, I got to tell everyone.
- 2:49So back when we had to play Philadelphia in Philadelphia for
- 2:53the division championship, their stadium was was a sea of
- 2:57burgundy and gold. So I expected it because when
- 3:01when your team is losing, what does the home team do?
- 3:04They sell their tickets. And we were playing for the
- 3:06division and so obviously everyone took the trip up 95 N
- 3:10to witness us. When the division, it's no
- 3:13different. So don't.
- 3:14It's nothing to me to lose your hat over because I've seen both
- 3:17sides of it and, and quite literally, we expected it.
- 3:21Oh yeah, we knew it was going to happen, right?
- 3:23They're they're coming down 95. Ticket prices were dropping and
- 3:27it's a Saturday, so they still have the rest of their weekend
- 3:31to go do whatever holiday stuff they need to do and go from
- 3:34there. So I'm not going to hate on the
- 3:37fans that got rid of the tickets or whatever happened.
- 3:39It just wasn't what it was. Right?
- 3:40They, I'd say they outnumbered us at home just because I think
- 3:45it would have been a different story if we weren't so close to
- 3:48Christmas. I think if this was maybe 2
- 3:51weeks ago, our fan base might have shown up instead of, you
- 3:55know, dealing with the holiday stuff.
- 3:56I had people telling me, hey, I've got Christmas parties and I
- 3:59would rather deal with that and go have a good time and drink
- 4:03some eggnog and, you know, maybe find someone under a mistletoe,
- 4:06then deal with a bunch of drunk Eagles fans.
- 4:09Which was pretty much, what, the entire day and it turning out to
- 4:12be. So apparently Barstool Philly
- 4:17decides to reshare the video back from last January.
- 4:23Can't get away from it. Now I'm never going to be able
- 4:25to, right? It's following me everywhere.
- 4:27It is what it is, right? And you know, I'm not going to
- 4:30rehash what it was, but they obviously have nothing going on.
- 4:34So they felt like sharing it out again.
- 4:36And I guess I'm trending again. When I'm up in the morning, I
- 4:41don't look at my cell phone. I I tell people, if you're
- 4:43trying to get a hold of me, just come find me in the parking spot
- 4:46because I am so busy getting stuff ready for the game that
- 4:49day, the tailgate that day. And I actually used to have my
- 4:53outgoing message on game days. This is where I am.
- 4:56If you need me, come find me here.
- 4:58If you're not coming to the game, I'll talk to you tomorrow.
- 5:00All right? And I had to take that off
- 5:02because I was told it was unprofessional.
- 5:04But you know, it's just fact of the matter.
- 5:06You're busy cooking. Yeah, right.
- 5:08I don't have my phone on me. I'm not going to accidentally
- 5:11drop in the deep fryer, which one of our cooks did years ago.
- 5:15So. Oh yeah, the guy was also, you
- 5:17know, 3 sheets, so, and he probably never should have
- 5:20bought a deep fryer, but I'm the one that handles it now just to
- 5:23make sure that never happens again.
- 5:25And my phone's blowing up right? And I'm getting text messages,
- 5:30everything else. I have muted everything that
- 5:33says Philadelphia Eagles, Hard Rock, any iteration you can
- 5:39possibly think of because all their fans tagged me in it.
- 5:43And Twitter came out with the mute forever option before it
- 5:47was just 30 days. So now if you tweet me and tag
- 5:53me and do at Tailgate Ted and put any combination of those
- 5:56words in, I will never see it so it doesn't pollute my timeline
- 6:00and bother. Me at all.
- 6:02So it's fine. It's actually a nice feature
- 6:04that they came out with. But Needless to say that I had a
- 6:09bunch of Eagles fans coming up and harassing me during the
- 6:14tailgate and coming by. So I'm just, you know what?
- 6:17It's not worth wasting my time. I'm not going to engage, not
- 6:20going to say anything to do anything.
- 6:22So we have our tailgate, and it's our smallest tailgate this
- 6:25year, but we ended up raising some money for charity.
- 6:28So that to me is all that matters.
- 6:30Had a good time, made some cheese steaks.
- 6:32You actually got to hang out longer than I was expecting you
- 6:34to be there. So that was a pleasant surprise.
- 6:37And then I'm getting ready to go into the game.
- 6:41Oh no, let me change this up. Rewind real quick, this is the
- 6:45first time ever that we required a donation to be collected ahead
- 6:50of the game for over 2 decades. You just donate when you get
- 6:55there because I just trust you guys to show up and handle that.
- 6:58Well, we've changed it now because of what I found on a
- 7:02couple Eagle message boards. They were going and they were
- 7:06sharing out the Hail BBQ website and they were going to flood the
- 7:09RSVP and pretend to register and then just not show up.
- 7:15So that was their game plan was to have me buy all this food and
- 7:19get ready to cook all this food and then have it all completely
- 7:22go to waste and then lose thousands of dollars that I've
- 7:25spent. On it.
- 7:26Oh man. So that's how petty their fan
- 7:29base is where I'm trying to raise money for charity, right?
- 7:31We raised thousands of thousands of dollars this year and they're
- 7:34just trying to make me waste it all because I think it's funny.
- 7:37So from now on, that's just how it's going to be for division
- 7:39games, especially their division and dealing with that.
- 7:42And you know, probably night games because like the people
- 7:44that don't show up because of traffic and I've got food that
- 7:48goes to waste because they don't actually post.
- 7:50So we had to change it up because of them.
- 7:52And they're, you know, just mentality.
- 7:55But going into the game, I know you had your your meta glasses
- 8:00on. I'm rocking mine because I
- 8:04wanted to have them. I do like a little video of me
- 8:06cooking. Well, I want to take some videos
- 8:09of me walking into the stadium, just dealing with their fans.
- 8:13And I'm not. Going to be able to post those
- 8:17videos because I am afraid I'm going to get my account taken
- 8:21down because of some of the words and phrases that were
- 8:25being uttered during the audio portions of it.
- 8:29At you. Oh yeah, man.
- 8:31Yeah, so you know, it just and it's a vocal minority, right?
- 8:37Right. So I, I know what I'm getting
- 8:40myself into when I go up to Philly.
- 8:42I knew what I was getting myself into when their fans were coming
- 8:45down here. So it's all right.
- 8:48It's fine. If I had, I'm telling you, no
- 8:51joke, maybe let's just say $10.00 for every person that
- 8:56walked up to me in an Eagles jersey that asked to take a
- 9:01selfie. I could have paid for my NFC
- 9:04Championship game this past year.
- 9:07The question is, did you? Did you take a selfie with them?
- 9:09Hell no, I didn't take a selfie with these Bamas.
- 9:14I mean part of me want to grab their phone and throw it on the
- 9:16ground, but then that would be destruction of property.
- 9:18So I decided no, I just wait. Wait, wait, wait a minute, Ted.
- 9:21Wait a minute, Ted. Why didn't you take a selfie
- 9:24with them? Because all they're going to do
- 9:25is share it with Barstool and just keep it going.
- 9:28All they're going to do is post it online and keep it going that
- 9:32this isn't Where's Waldo, right? I'm not here for it.
- 9:35Honestly, it felt like I was a zoo animal in my seats because
- 9:39every time I would turn around to look at my boy Chuck or
- 9:42someone else there someone and they weren't videoing the game,
- 9:47right? There was no play going on or
- 9:49anything happening. It was just zoomed in on me the
- 9:53entire time, all right. And.
- 9:56It's just, it cracks me up because obviously once again, I
- 10:01I still live rent free and I know it's going to be that way
- 10:04for a very long time and I'm fine with it because I got broad
- 10:07shoulders. I know I can handle it.
- 10:10But. The entire game's going on and
- 10:13this is actually when our fight happened and we'll get to the
- 10:17game here in a bit. I just want to talk about my
- 10:19experience. So this is when the fight after
- 10:22two point conversion happened. This group think of like four or
- 10:25five guys, four or five white dudes behind me.
- 10:29I'm sitting in the aisle and they are in the aisle one row
- 10:33back, one section over, right. Guy's been heckling me the
- 10:37entire time under his breath and I I can hear everything he's
- 10:41saying the entire game. It's the fourth quarter and he
- 10:46comes over to apologize and those they can't see.
- 10:50I'm putting my hands up. You know, a little quotes.
- 10:53God wasn't trying to apologize. He was just getting in my face.
- 10:56And at this point, thank goodness my little brother had
- 10:59left, right? My sister in Some other people
- 11:02are gone because I didn't want Missus Tailgate coming to this
- 11:06game because I don't want her. To be around these people.
- 11:08So you're solo Dolo at this moment?
- 11:10Yeah, I was right. And that's when the guy chose to
- 11:13come over to come talk to me, right?
- 11:16So I'm sitting here thinking, OK, you know, all right, if if
- 11:20we got to go, we got to go. So he is literally this close to
- 11:24my face talking to me, and I'm just sitting there and saying,
- 11:28go back to your seat, man. Just go over there and go back
- 11:31to your seat. And he said, I'm apologizing.
- 11:34He said all you need to do is go back to your seat.
- 11:37Just go back to your section right over there.
- 11:39I can see your seat with your boys.
- 11:40Just go back over there. His friends the entire time are
- 11:43videotaping, right? Because they're just waiting for
- 11:45something to happen. So you know, I'm not going to
- 11:49sit there and fall under their bait.
- 11:51There's a gentleman behind me. He's a awesome season ticket
- 11:55holder. He and his daughter come 76 year
- 11:57old larger carriage African American man.
- 12:01And then some of the other season ticket holders around me
- 12:03start getting involved saying basically this little white kid
- 12:08is going to get his ass beat by these older African American
- 12:12gentlemen if they don't leave me alone and go back.
- 12:15The kid just wouldn't move, wouldn't get out of my face.
- 12:20So at that point, still sitting there, I just pulled my
- 12:23mouthpiece out out of my pocket, put it in, said OK, if you're
- 12:29ready, let's go. You're in that damn mouthpiece.
- 12:32At that point he ran back to his seat and went to go sit his ass
- 12:37back down and he and his boys freaked out.
- 12:39Like you're going to invade my space and come over here and act
- 12:43like you're going to attack me, then I'm going to be ready for
- 12:46it. And he went back over and I
- 12:48didn't bother turning around and looking at them.
- 12:51But it was just to me, the ignorance in their fan base.
- 12:58That's the part I'll never get over, right?
- 13:01There were little children that were my nieces and nephews, age
- 13:04maybe six or seven that were cursing at Washington fans when
- 13:09they were leaving during the during the game saying go to the
- 13:12F home and their parents were cheering them on, right?
- 13:17And I just, that's the part that I don't get where they think
- 13:23it's OK behavior, right? That's the part that I don't
- 13:27understand. Like to be proud of just that
- 13:32kind of behavior. OK, you guys won the game.
- 13:36But to act like that, to act like just act like you've ever
- 13:39even been there before. And obviously they have because
- 13:42they've been a good team for quite some time.
- 13:44And they won back-to-back, you know, NFC East championships for
- 13:47the first time and, you know, over 20 years, whatever the hell
- 13:50that record is. But I have never hated a group
- 13:55of individuals more in my life. Well, I guess I'm sorry to hear
- 14:04that for you, man. I really am because we just saw
- 14:09the Pittsburgh Steeler guy get into the, the altercation with
- 14:13DK, get into the altercation with the fan.
- 14:16And you know, at some point in time, you know, even though
- 14:20there is a code of conduct, it needs something needs to be
- 14:22enforced. I had just the opposite time.
- 14:27No one really said anything to me.
- 14:31And I guess I'm, I'm, I'm cool with that.
- 14:34And, and not that I, I needed anyone to say anything because
- 14:37sitting next to me was, was a Philadelphia fan and, and then,
- 14:40and then the, the front row had Philly fans.
- 14:43So, you know, it was all good for me.
- 14:46You know, they were like, hey man, if we, we know who you are,
- 14:49we appreciate their, their fans said we appreciate you and would
- 14:53you mind if I take a picture with you?
- 14:54So I was like, OK, cool. You know, I don't have a problem
- 14:57with it. If you use my face for darts, so
- 15:00be it. But they they were, they were
- 15:02cool asking for a picture. So I I said, all right, why not?
- 15:06And I told him, I said I'll see you guys in Philly in three
- 15:08weeks. And they said, all right, we'll
- 15:09be there. So I I'm sorry you had to go
- 15:12through that, bro. I I really am, but you, that
- 15:16mouthpiece, man, that's. That's been, so I told you
- 15:23offline what happened to me in Philly.
- 15:25Yeah, yeah. So it, it hasn't come out what
- 15:28happened? But I got jumped and we were up
- 15:30there, right? I, you know, I, I got jumped
- 15:33when I was in the bathroom and we were up there and I, I
- 15:37brought it for a reason. Chief Z was a friend of mine.
- 15:40He was like a father of me, right?
- 15:42I ended up helping clean out his house after he passed away.
- 15:45I planned his freaking memorial and his funeral with the team,
- 15:49right? And they threw him in a dumpster
- 15:51and broke his orbital bone, right?
- 15:53I just know how that fan base can be and how just caveman they
- 15:58can act. So yeah, best believe when I go
- 16:02up there, if I'm going to put myself in a situation, I'll be
- 16:04prepared, right? And when I was up there at the
- 16:08link for the championship game, I'm standing at a stall, right?
- 16:14Yeah, at a No, I'm not. I'm not saying you're on.
- 16:16I'm standing at an actual, you know, like toilet stall.
- 16:19So there's a barriers beside me where the door was, you know,
- 16:23open at that point, because I'm just taking a leak.
- 16:26A couple people come up behind me and start punching me, right?
- 16:29I've got my back to them. I can't do anything.
- 16:32And then luckily a couple people pulled them off of me and I just
- 16:35finished my business and I walked back to my seat.
- 16:37I didn't even bother engaging, washed my hands off and went
- 16:41back. Right.
- 16:42And that's just the interaction that I have had with them.
- 16:46And I haven't wanted to come out with and say anything about it
- 16:49because they'll get a kick out of it and think it's hilarious.
- 16:53It was the video that someone took of me leaving and they
- 16:57thought I was leaving the game. No, I stayed until you guys got
- 16:59your trophy, right? I paid for my ticket.
- 17:02I'm not leaving the game. I was leaving to go take a piss
- 17:04right? And last time I checked that
- 17:06wasn't illegal. And that's when I ended up
- 17:08getting jumped in the bathroom right?
- 17:10And it I wouldn't put it past them to try and do the same
- 17:14thing at our stadium because. Unfortunately.
- 17:17This past week, it was not our stadium.
- 17:20No, it wasn't. It really wasn't.
- 17:22And it's and it's sad, but I get it at the same time, you know,
- 17:27a, a better product on the field or a winning product, you know,
- 17:33would stop that. And so I think that if we had a
- 17:38better season, that wouldn't have happened.
- 17:40It just wouldn't have. I mean, they obviously they
- 17:43would have had a group of numbers that have come down to
- 17:45see us, but I don't think it would have transpired the way
- 17:48that it did. You look at the lower bowl, even
- 17:51I'd say from from from end zone to end zone on that side, it was
- 17:57all Philly. And then even for the home side,
- 18:01there were a lot of Philly fans who filtered on the lower bowl
- 18:04and, and I just, I understood it.
- 18:07I, I don't like it, but hopefully, you know, we can do
- 18:12better and get better for next year so that that won't happen.
- 18:17That's all I can say, man. You travel for games, I travel
- 18:20for games, right? I know what it's like to be in
- 18:22someone else's house and to win one of my top three moments as a
- 18:26fan of this team will forever be winning that division game
- 18:30against the Lions, right? But the difference is the Lions
- 18:34fans were 100% class. Right.
- 18:37No, no, Sir. Not not to me they weren't.
- 18:41Now that, yeah, now that that I can say for me.
- 18:45No, but I was getting cussed out.
- 18:47I was getting cussed out. I was getting everything.
- 18:49And so it's totally reversed. I'd rather have almost the Eagle
- 18:53fan at home than than these Detroit fans.
- 18:56They tried to be like a little deep little little Philadelphia
- 18:59man. It was, it was rough for me bro.
- 19:00Was this any in Detroit? In Detroit, Yeah, yeah.
- 19:04So for me, they were inviting, right?
- 19:08They were inviting Washington fans down to take their seats
- 19:12because they saw our fans in the standing room area behind and
- 19:17come on down here, right? You guys, you've been through
- 19:19hell like us for a long time. I'd say probably worse than them
- 19:23because they still own their name, right?
- 19:26And they were having people come down and take their seats and go
- 19:30sit in their spots because they realized that game was out of
- 19:32hand, right? And I to this day, my worst
- 19:35experience, all OK, second worst experience.
- 19:38Now, you know, the Eagles game definitely tops.
- 19:41That would be a wild card game against the Seahawks when Sean
- 19:46had passed away. I organized a tailgate out in
- 19:49Seattle with a bunch of the family of, you know, different
- 19:54players. And they trashed everybody's
- 19:57cars, right? They zip tie people in porta
- 20:00Johns. The point of we lost a couple of
- 20:02people for a little bit thinking, oh, where'd this guy
- 20:04go? Dude was locked in a porta pot,
- 20:06all right? And it was just, they destroyed
- 20:10people's rental cars, right? And it actually got picked up by
- 20:13the Washington Post. And one of my quotes was it
- 20:16remind me of that scene from Gladiator when Marcus Aurelius,
- 20:21whatever is going through and it just got people in both sides of
- 20:24them yelling and screaming. That's really what it felt like
- 20:27when I was in Seattle going in and the article got back to
- 20:31Seattle ownership and they invited a bunch of us who were
- 20:34mentioning the article back out to Seattle because we played
- 20:36them in O 8 the next year. I refused to go and I did not
- 20:40want their blood money for a ticket or a flight to go out
- 20:43there. To me, I'm just going to
- 20:44remember how your fans are and how your place is, and I'll kill
- 20:49you with kindness when you come to my town, but I'm not going to
- 20:52contribute to your economy. See, I had just the opposite
- 20:56time in Seattle. Everybody was was welcoming to
- 20:59me in Seattle. So wow, totally different.
- 21:03But then again, playoffs, regular season, you know.
- 21:09Mike Sellers started right, Mike Sellers said.
- 21:12It's not that loud out there, which definitely egg their fans
- 21:17on. And it's just to give bulletin
- 21:20board material like that to a fan base and just a team when
- 21:25you're about to play them in the playoffs just dumbfounds me.
- 21:30Don't know why Big Mike thought that that was OK And, you know,
- 21:35I'm not sure what's going to happen in two weeks when we play
- 21:37them again. You know, getting into the game
- 21:39itself, the fight happened in your end zone.
- 21:43All right. First, what did you think when
- 21:46they were going for two? The Beyoncé did.
- 21:52I didn't care. It's, it's football.
- 21:56I, you know, I, I, I thought, hey, you know, maybe not that
- 22:01well, there's always a chance that we could come back.
- 22:04Who knows what could happen? We weren't going to come back
- 22:06when. We come back, man.
- 22:07Not with Josh Johnson. I mean with Mariana maybe, but
- 22:10not with Josh. Johnson, not with JJ, but
- 22:13anyway. Dude haven't thought of past
- 22:15since 2022. I got you, brother, I got you,
- 22:18but at the same time, there was a part of me that was just like,
- 22:22it is what it is, you know, and I and I just let it go.
- 22:26I'm not, I'm not one of these guys that's going to get up in
- 22:30arms about it that you're trying to pile on or whatever.
- 22:33Because if it was us and we did it, hey man, it is what it is,
- 22:38bro. So I, I just let it like a lot
- 22:42of things in my life just roll off my back, man, because I, I
- 22:46got too, too much other stuff to worry about in my life.
- 22:49Then then a two point conversion or trying to run the score up.
- 22:53I've I've been to games where the score is going to run up.
- 22:56So that's so we're not new to this.
- 22:58So that's my biggest thing. It's happened before and
- 23:01probably will happen again at some point time.
- 23:03I will not allow what happens on the field to dictate what I do
- 23:08in my personal life. I just can't do it.
- 23:10So they did it. And then you're right, the fight
- 23:14on the field happened and then there was a fighting in my end
- 23:16zone. Yeah, there was a fight and they
- 23:20wound up tossing the guy out. I mean, I, I really couldn't see
- 23:23it, but I just heard it, you know?
- 23:25You you heard the oh, oh, you know what I mean?
- 23:27You know how it is when people fight.
- 23:28All of a sudden you hear the crowd and you just kind of
- 23:30stand, try to see where it's coming.
- 23:31From you turn yeah you turn around and all of a sudden you
- 23:33you see the the the punches flying or whatever have you sold
- 23:37but I I will never allow that to dictate how I act because I can
- 23:45only control my ATI can't control what somebody else does
- 23:47now now some you know me, Ted. I've always said I will not put
- 23:52my hands on someone or that someone puts their hands on me
- 23:55and then it's a, it's a whole different story game on.
- 23:59But I will never initiate anything.
- 24:02And so with that said, man, I, I let things happen the way they
- 24:07happen and, and well, they say life be life and if you will.
- 24:12So I, I just let it happen man. And, and luckily I didn't have
- 24:17any of those problems. But what those those guys get
- 24:20paid to fight on the field and truthfully, I I see why they did
- 24:24fight. To me, if you're insulted or you
- 24:30think it's disrespect that they're going for it, stop them.
- 24:33Don't let them score right. It's just I was annoyed because
- 24:37you got all of this fight coming out of the guys and I understand
- 24:41why they fought, but yet you couldn't tackle Saquon a couple
- 24:45of times, right? You're just letting them bust
- 24:46these long runs. You obviously got some energy in
- 24:49you. Why don't you use some of that
- 24:51to stop some of these plays on the field during an actual play,
- 24:54not after a play, right? And DQ was asked about it.
- 24:56This is what he had to say. Obviously it's their choice to
- 25:00go for two there and you know, it's your job to stop them.
- 25:03But is there an unspoken respect between coaches, teams where you
- 25:07know in a game in that situation, you you don't do
- 25:09that? And kind of did you feel like it
- 25:11was a little bit of a sign of disrespect?
- 25:13Yeah, I can only answer from my, you know, my side what I would
- 25:15do, but Amen. Like that's how they want to get
- 25:19down. Then, like all good, we play
- 25:21them again in two weeks. I really wish DQ would have left
- 25:26that. We'll play them again in two
- 25:26weeks. Part out right, because what are
- 25:28we going to do in two weeks when we play them?
- 25:30All right? Odds are Mariota ain't playing
- 25:34that game. And I'm just going based upon
- 25:36hearing how bad his hand is. It is Tuesday the 23rd right now
- 25:41we're recording this. His hand is still swollen and
- 25:44he's got stitches in it. So what happened with his hands?
- 25:46Somebody stepped on it, right? Yeah, it was a cleat.
- 25:49He got a cleat on his hands. So first he was being evaluated
- 25:51for a concussion. Actually, you know what?
- 25:53Let DQ talk about it. I got a clip right here with
- 25:56with Mark, first of all, like how many stitches?
- 25:58What happened with the hand and how did he hurt it?
- 26:00And then is there a realistic shot for Thursday, then with?
- 26:04Him, I don't know the amount of stitches.
- 26:05John, the quad in the hand happened on the same play.
- 26:08It was a cleat that got to his hand on the top, but I don't
- 26:14know yet swollen. So I'd say we're going to, you
- 26:19know, call it day-to-day right now of where it's at both with
- 26:22the hand and with the quad. And so let's see, you know, what
- 26:27tomorrow is and the following day.
- 26:29Then I'd say by, you know, 2 days from now we'll have a a
- 26:31very good estimate of where he's at.
- 26:35So that was coach talking on Sunday.
- 26:37Well, it's two days from now and that thing is still hell
- 26:40swollen. And Mariota was not out during
- 26:42the media portion of practice. So Mariota ain't playing.
- 26:46All right. It's going to be Josh Johnson,
- 26:48and we'll get into, you know, what the hell Sam Hartman's
- 26:53doing on this roster in a minute, but it's just
- 26:59frustrating to see, man. All right, And I don't know.
- 27:05All right, well, let's just jump into Hartman now.
- 27:07What the Hell's? He doing on this roster bro.
- 27:11The last time we saw him was the preseason and let's face it, he
- 27:17looked like hot garbage. He he just did.
- 27:19Now I don't know if if he's got an end with ownership or or
- 27:25whatever have you, but I've never seen someone who could
- 27:28stick around as long as he has without being able to even he
- 27:32hasn't even suited up. That's what that's what gets me.
- 27:35He He's always in plain clothes in.
- 27:38Practice squad, so he's not going to suit up since he's on
- 27:41the practice squad. I, I understand, I, I, I got
- 27:45you. But he could have suited up this
- 27:49past game when Mariota was as his backup.
- 27:53But Josh was. That's my point.
- 27:55You're on the practice squad, but but you can be elevated.
- 28:00And so will he be elevated this week?
- 28:04Well, I'll tell you right now, no, he's not.
- 28:07So the team signed Jeff Driscoll.
- 28:10So Jeff Driscoll is going to back up Josh Johnson and I've
- 28:16got let me see if I can pull it up.
- 28:18This was Kingsbury talking about it.
- 28:21Go ahead. I was going to say, I feel like
- 28:23Ricky Ricardo, you got some explaining to Lucy.
- 28:26I don't understand that. How can a cat be on your team?
- 28:29Well, actually, you know what? I know what he's going to say.
- 28:32I know what he's going to say. Well, he probably hadn't taken
- 28:35any snaps or he probably hadn't done this or done that.
- 28:37The fact is you have you been on the practice squad taking snaps?
- 28:42You you you've been throwing the ball.
- 28:43You haven't just not been doing anything.
- 28:46You're not coming off of an injury where you haven't suited
- 28:48up for had pads on at all. Now, if you guys decided not to
- 28:53have him do some third string reps, then that's on you.
- 28:57But but don't say, well, you know, I don't want to hear that
- 29:01excuse while he's on the practice squad because he's on
- 29:03the practice squad. You throw the ball, you hand the
- 29:05ball off, you run the fundamentals of football and I
- 29:07know that you still do drills and I know that you do plays for
- 29:14my team, but go ahead, man. So this is a quote from
- 29:18Kingsbury, Why Driscoll over Sam Hartman?
- 29:21Kingsbury said. Having a guy on a short week,
- 29:24particularly, that has played NFL games before, is comfortable
- 29:27with our system is why we felt good about bringing him in.
- 29:31Driscoll was on a practice squad for another team, right?
- 29:34He has not been in your building during the quarterback meetings,
- 29:39right? Hartman has.
- 29:40So JP Finley said that Hartman's basically, and I'm paraphrasing
- 29:44the vibes guy, right? Everyone likes him in the locker
- 29:48room. He helps book, you know,
- 29:49organize team dinners and get togethers, right?
- 29:53So don't you have? Assistance for that?
- 29:55Don't you have assistance? You have assistance for that?
- 29:58But I. Put his way, I don't.
- 29:59I don't. I don't ever want to get in the
- 30:01way of anybody getting their bag.
- 30:03I, I, I don't and, and if you want, if you hired me to be the
- 30:06team's organizer, then so be it. I can help put dinners together.
- 30:09I, I can court help coordinate events.
- 30:12That's what I do. I must be events, baby.
- 30:14So if that's what you need, say that that money and, and let's
- 30:17put somebody who to use, who can, who can really fulfill that
- 30:20position. I mean, I'll be a lot cheaper
- 30:23than him because I'm sure he's, he's making more than league
- 30:25minimal. So.
- 30:27Well, no, since he's on the practice squad, he's not right.
- 30:31He's so his total career earnings.
- 30:36No, it's not league. You don't make league minimum
- 30:38when you're on the practice squad.
- 30:40So it practice squad you get paid just a tiny amount.
- 30:45Granted, a tiny amount is still a lot that compared to us, but
- 30:48he's not. 1000. No, no, no, no.
- 30:52I think it's around 200 something 230,000.
- 30:56Oh cry me a River, $200,000. It's I'd I'd kill for that,
- 31:01right, But it's since it's practice squad, it's completely
- 31:05different than being on the active roster because he's not
- 31:07on the active roster. So you're not going to get the
- 31:09lead minimum unless you're on an active roster is what I'm trying
- 31:12to. Say, all right, all right, well,
- 31:14as I said, I don't ever, as I said, I don't ever want to get
- 31:18in, in, in anybody's bag. So if that's how you got to do
- 31:21it, that's how you got to do it, and that's what they want to do,
- 31:23then so be it. I, I just don't understand it.
- 31:26I'll say that. I'm right there with you.
- 31:29So players with two or fewer accrued NFL seasons, which would
- 31:33be Hartman, get $13,000 a week on the practice squad.
- 31:39So that's not. 1000 a week, yeah.
- 31:44Compared to an NFL salary, right, that's not a lot.
- 31:47That's peanuts. I got you.
- 31:48Yeah. So if he's doing 18 weeks,
- 31:5213,000, that's $234,000 a year, right?
- 31:55If he gets elevated to the active roster and gets called
- 31:58up, then that's a different story.
- 32:00So he would get more money. But he's been on the practice
- 32:02squad this entire time. For me, my whole thing is, yes,
- 32:06your practice squad is. So you have someone there that
- 32:09can run, you know, the scout team, things like that.
- 32:12But you're also grooming that individual.
- 32:15So what the hell are we grooving Hartman for, right?
- 32:18So now you have 5 quarterbacks on the roster, right?
- 32:21None of which are on IR cause Jayden's not on IR.
- 32:25And then there are fans that are yelling and screaming.
- 32:27Well what about Jayden playing this week right?
- 32:29Because he was limited in practice.
- 32:31This is DQ talking about Jayden's status.
- 32:33We would not consider playing Jayden.
- 32:35So the first two options are the ones you were leading into or
- 32:40Josh and Sam. What we consider somebody else
- 32:42coming in if he's not able to. Yeah, all those are on the
- 32:44table. That's something that Ed and I
- 32:46are discussing tonight and we did today.
- 32:51So Jaden's off the table. He's limited in practice and
- 32:55Mariota, I don't think practice today.
- 32:58Yeah, he was ADNP. So it's going to be Driscoll
- 33:03coming here from Arizona to backup Josh Johnson, right.
- 33:09And I just, I know it's not a big deal because obviously
- 33:13Hartman has not shown what the coaches want to see for him to
- 33:17earn that spot. But if you wanted Driscoll to be
- 33:22your backup, then why didn't you put him on your practice squad
- 33:26over Hartman? I, I just, I don't know, I don't
- 33:29get that part because Driscoll was here last year, the other
- 33:31year, but he's been in the system.
- 33:33That's why they brought him back so.
- 33:37I, I, I don't know, that's one of the things that I will
- 33:40scratch my head on, but once again, I don't get paid millions
- 33:43of dollars to no, neither do you, Ted.
- 33:45So obviously there's a, a reason behind it.
- 33:49We just haven't figured it out. Well, we got two games to to
- 33:53figure it out. Rumor is these boys with Jaden
- 33:56and you know, that's but I'm sorry, I just do not see Adam
- 34:00Peters saying Jane, you like this guy, I'm going to keep him
- 34:02on the roster. You only have so many spots or
- 34:05on the team, you know, practice squad spots.
- 34:06You only have so many practice squad spots.
- 34:08Like why do? That no man.
- 34:11You got, you know, 46 year old Philip Rivers coming out and
- 34:15actually doing stuff and then we got Josh Johnson, like before
- 34:19Johnson came in, right? What did you think when all of a
- 34:22sudden they fumble the opening kickoff, right?
- 34:25And we recover that thing? Like what was going through your
- 34:27head at that moment? I said, oh boy, we got a game on
- 34:30our hands. Said, oh man, these guys are
- 34:32fired up. They're tired of this nonsense.
- 34:34It's time to show and prove and, and, and here we are.
- 34:37Let's go ahead and make this thing happen and that we got to
- 34:40feel Lord out of it. That was a bummer, right?
- 34:43And we go into halftime 6:50, we still have the lead.
- 34:47Right. Going into the 4th, right, it
- 34:49was only 14 to 10. Then when Mariota goes down, I'm
- 34:53thinking, all right, you got to be kidding me.
- 34:55It's just, it was just another comical thing.
- 34:59And Mariota was the only one that went down.
- 35:00There were so many injuries this past week and this is actually
- 35:04DQ talking about a couple of them.
- 35:06Start with Marcus, he had stitches on his right hand and
- 35:08he's also dealing with a quad injury.
- 35:12So Week 16, every team's dealing with stuff, but for guys like
- 35:16Marcus fighting hard, we know how much he means to us as a
- 35:19leader. And so we're certainly
- 35:22disappointed for him. We'll see really day-to-day as
- 35:25it's going to go. I'll give you updates through
- 35:27the week of where he's at. Laramie Tunsil, work with the
- 35:31trainers today. We'll see as it gets closer to
- 35:34the game for him tomorrow, be more like in a, you know,
- 35:39jogging through pace. Brandon Coleman with the shin.
- 35:42We're hopeful that this can turn quickly, that he'd be available
- 35:44for the game. Sam Cosmi is in the concussion
- 35:47protocol and Johnny Newton has cleared concussion protocol and
- 35:54Jaylen Lane with his ankle. It would be tough for this
- 35:57Thursday and so we'll see what it looks like, but it would be
- 36:01tough to match up for this week so.
- 36:05So Lane's out. They put him on IR.
- 36:07Cosmi also went on IR. He's out, right Tonsil, DNP,
- 36:13right? Duron Payne, DNP Nick Velour,
- 36:17DNP So it's just right now we're The Walking wounded going into
- 36:23this Cowboys game and I've just, I don't know who we're going to
- 36:27have actually suit up and dress come Christmas.
- 36:31I mean, I'm still amped up from this past week, so I'm happy to
- 36:35put some pads on and go out there.
- 36:37I can still run a mean 40, right?
- 36:39But they are, they're pulling in guys from other people's
- 36:43practice squads at this. Point to just try and.
- 36:46Get enough people. That's terrible, man.
- 36:49It really is on so many levels. I wish that this would be the
- 36:53last game of the season. I I really do, because morale is
- 37:00down When when when your buddy goes down.
- 37:03Yeah, it gives you an opportunity to possibly feel
- 37:06that slot and shine, but you hate to see it.
- 37:10And and we're so close to the end of the season to where I'm
- 37:14afraid that guys will start making business decisions if
- 37:18they haven't already done so. I mean, they'll still fight, but
- 37:23it's one of those things, hey man, you know what?
- 37:26I what are we playing for realistically?
- 37:30You know what I mean? And at the end of the day, you
- 37:32can, you can say what you want to say.
- 37:34They're human beings. I will I will always tout that
- 37:37they're human beings who have feelings, who think just like
- 37:40everybody else. So you do it at your job and and
- 37:45although they may be getting paid at a little bit more than
- 37:48than us or a lot more rather a. Lot more.
- 37:50Yeah, yeah, a lot more. Their mind is the same.
- 37:54It's, it's, it's the same, it's just on a different scale.
- 37:57And they're putting their bodies on the line 'cause now you say,
- 38:02well, damn. Not that I not that I wish the
- 38:05injury bugle anybody, but if I get hurt this this time of the
- 38:08of the year, that prolongs my recovery and I may miss a
- 38:14preseason game or depending on how bad it could be.
- 38:18So you have guys that are saying, OK, let me make this
- 38:23decision. Yeah, I mean, I don't think
- 38:28Duron Payne's going to be here next season, right?
- 38:31Just based on his contract, No, I don't think so, right from a a
- 38:35contract number. It's the whole issue we had
- 38:38with, you know, John Allen, not a bunch of guaranteed.
- 38:41I don't think he has any guaranteed money next season,
- 38:45right? So I think Duron's going to be
- 38:47gone. So Duron, I'm not saying that's
- 38:51why he didn't practice. I'm not saying that's why he's
- 38:52not suiting up with the boys and going to war with them.
- 38:55But would you really want to risk it knowing that next year
- 39:00look 2026? He has.
- 39:04Yeah, I mean, 27, he's an $11 million dead cap hit and his
- 39:11base salary, yeah, I'm not seeing anything crazy guaranteed
- 39:15for him. They have a potential out in
- 39:182026, the team does. So that's why a lot of people
- 39:21thinking he's gone, right, Tunsil is going to be signing or
- 39:26looking for a big contract this offseason.
- 39:29He's under contract, but he doesn't have any guaranteed
- 39:32money on his deal, right? So it's the whole kind of Terry
- 39:35thing all over again where there's no guaranteed money, so
- 39:38he's going to be looking for a payday you.
- 39:41Think we'll sign him? He's AD and Pi, don't think you
- 39:43trade for him unless you know you're going to bring him back,
- 39:47right? And you know, obviously they
- 39:49traded for Lattimore. That one didn't work out.
- 39:52Tunsil's been a baller. So I think he deserves to get
- 39:55paid. And in fact, Kingsbury even said
- 39:57during one of his press conferences he's going to get
- 39:59paid this offseason. And I'm sure Peters was not
- 40:01happy that Kingsbury said that. But you know, he was just
- 40:04stating the obvious, right? But talking about things to
- 40:07things to play for, Von Miller is at 7 sacks.
- 40:11If he gets two more sacks, he gets $1,000,000 bonus right?
- 40:16So Frankie Louvou, is it 4 sacks?
- 40:19If he gets two more sacks, he gets a $325,000 bonus, right?
- 40:25Mariota was getting a bonus for if he played 60% of the snaps
- 40:30and actually got a win in that game.
- 40:31He got a $200,000 bonus per game, right?
- 40:35I don't think he's going to get that the rest of the week's
- 40:37coming up just because. But you know, there are guys
- 40:41that are still playing for stuff and guys that are playing for
- 40:42contracts flat out next year. It's just when coach says we see
- 40:46that we're going to see you in two weeks.
- 40:48What do you realistically think this roster is going to do in
- 40:50two weeks? And I don't care if the Eagles
- 40:52are playing the starters or their backups.
- 40:55I just I'm hoping it's a Bill Callahan coach, you know, play
- 40:59called game where it's a two hour and some change game
- 41:02because we're just run the ball, run the clock out.
- 41:06And so you're Bermuda? Yeah.
- 41:09There we go Cancun, right? And that's one of the guys
- 41:14season ticket horse behind me was asking when are you and
- 41:16Rally going to talk about draft picks and positions and this and
- 41:19that. Like what?
- 41:20We still got games left, but realistically I think the
- 41:22highest we can get is 6th because no other yeah, no other.
- 41:28We are in 7th right now. No other team has four losses.
- 41:31Everyone else has two or three or five.
- 41:35So because of that, the way things are panning out, OK, what
- 41:39are we going to if we accidentally win, we're going to
- 41:41go from, you know, 7th to 8th. We're not going to get better
- 41:45than the 6th pick. We're not going to get the 4th
- 41:47pick or the third pick just based upon how things have run
- 41:49out. And I don't know you guys, I'm
- 41:51tired of watching us lose, right?
- 41:54And I thought we had a chance at halftime.
- 41:57Yeah. But.
- 41:59I thought we did as well, man. Yeah, it's just the, the, the
- 42:04way that the season is is turned out for us, you know, And that's
- 42:08why I said I really do wish that this was the last game of the
- 42:10season. And that way we could ride off
- 42:13to the sunset, put a tuck our tail between our legs.
- 42:16It's like a cat that has fallen and embarrassed itself.
- 42:21You won't see that cat. That cat will go up underneath
- 42:23the couch and hide until he gets himself, his or herself
- 42:27together. And then after that, All right,
- 42:30let me have forgotten about it. I'll come back out.
- 42:33That's what cats do. And so I see that kind of same
- 42:37thing for us. Hey, look, let's just get this
- 42:38over with. We'll go, We'll we'll regroup
- 42:41because I do believe we're going to regroup.
- 42:43I don't know what we're going to do, how we're going to do it,
- 42:46why we'll do it, but I do believe it'll happen.
- 42:49And I just want to believe that the powers that be, you know,
- 42:54all we hear is we got all this cap space money.
- 42:57I'm hoping that they that when the time comes that they put it
- 43:01to use the right way and and pick who we need or pick, pay
- 43:06who we need and go from there. But that's for another show as
- 43:09well. We still got two games left and
- 43:13the Dallas Cry boys who didn't make the playoffs are coming to
- 43:17town. And so realistically, kind of
- 43:21the same things is going through their mind, you know, even
- 43:25though DAC will play because that's he's the starting
- 43:28quarterback or will they make a business decision and shut him
- 43:31down? And yeah, he's he's I'm just
- 43:35saying he's going to hear you. But but but but how long until
- 43:38the game will he play? You know what I mean?
- 43:42Yeah, and the Cowboys right now are 7 point favorites.
- 43:46I don't. I actually thought that this
- 43:49game, the Cowboys game was going to be our least attended
- 43:52tailgate. I actually have a good crap
- 43:53coming out for this one. I'm not saying that you know,
- 43:56it's a a barometer for what the stadium's going to look like,
- 43:59but typically, you know, I've been doing this for over 2
- 44:01decades. If our numbers are low, not a
- 44:05ton of fans are coming out, right?
- 44:07I'd typically be full at capacity way before this.
- 44:11But you know, I don't know how many Cowboys fans are going to
- 44:14be out there. I don't think we're going to get
- 44:17the Cowboy fans from Dallas to this game.
- 44:21I think it's going to be the Cowboy fans from PG that have
- 44:24never been to Dallas. They're going to be coming to
- 44:26this game just because. Are you going to leave your
- 44:30family and come see this game if you don't live around here on
- 44:35Christmas Day for a meaningless Christmas game?
- 44:38Well, I look at the aspect from the travel industry, if you
- 44:44will. A lot of people booked their
- 44:48trips early on and I think that you still will have a good
- 44:54amount of people from outside region who are going to come to
- 44:58this game that are Cowboys fans because as I said, hey, you
- 45:02know, it's Christmas. This could be a Christmas gift.
- 45:05It'll we'll be able to see the nation's capital.
- 45:06We no one knows what the team's going to, you know, what the
- 45:10barometer will be as far as the wins and losses, but you just
- 45:15know in the back of your mind, hey, we can go to the nation's
- 45:17capital, see the sights taking a football game.
- 45:20And, and I, and I said it because when I was in Dallas,
- 45:26when we played Dallas early on, I had people who were in the
- 45:30same hotel as us who are Cowboys fans.
- 45:32And they were saying, hey, if I wanted to sign up for this trip,
- 45:36what do I need to do now to be able to come?
- 45:39And so they're thinking about people were talking about it.
- 45:42I'm very interested to see what you know the tickets are going
- 45:47for now as as you I see, I see you pulling, I see you pulling
- 45:53up the hub. So yeah, you know, to see what's
- 45:56going on, but, but Long story short, people have made these
- 45:59plans a while ago to get here. And if you were were able to
- 46:04have a cancellation policy or trip insurance or whatever have
- 46:07you, I'm sure that maybe they did back out.
- 46:09But I think about the people when we would go to Texas during
- 46:13this time of year, no matter what our schedule was or, or
- 46:16what not our schedule, but no matter what our our wins and
- 46:19losses were, people have already signed up.
- 46:22They'd already paid their money. And, and you know, with my
- 46:24trips, it's always a payment plan.
- 46:27So people will still making their payments to go because
- 46:30they want to get out of town. So we'll see what happens.
- 46:33I I think it's going to be a good crowd, Ted.
- 46:35So I just, I know a lot of fans that really they don't buy until
- 46:42they see how their team is doing that season.
- 46:44And I know for you, it's your groups, it's a little bit
- 46:47different because people put these things on plans earlier.
- 46:50I just, I know a lot of fans that my team's trash.
- 46:53No, I'm not going to waste my money and do that.
- 46:55And I, I don't blame them. Right now you can get a lower
- 46:59level ticket for as cheap as $112, right?
- 47:02My face value on that ticket is 255, but that is cheap in the
- 47:08lower level for, you know, $1.12.
- 47:11So that to me means fans are just dumping seats and the
- 47:16market really isn't there. And I'm just, I'm not sure what
- 47:22to expect from our team who's going to come out and fight,
- 47:26right? I wanted to ask you, what are
- 47:29you looking forward to watching on game day now?
- 47:34Because there's no Jaden, right? And it's been pretty tough.
- 47:39Like are are there any particular players you're
- 47:41watching when the games are going on or what are you looking
- 47:44for? I want to see the resolve with
- 47:47the fellas on the team because we said it for the last several
- 47:50weeks. No, you may not be.
- 47:54We may not win the game, but you're playing for your future.
- 48:00The tape will not lie. And if you whiffed on some
- 48:03plays, you are the one who possibly are, is dictating
- 48:09whether you stay on the team or whether you get traded to
- 48:12another team or you're out of the NFL.
- 48:15So I'm expecting to see a good effort at least show me, show me
- 48:23something that I can say. All right, I'm looking forward
- 48:28to seeing this guy next year or I'm looking forward to seeing
- 48:32this happen. That's where I am.
- 48:35I I don't necessarily believe that we're going to win the
- 48:38game, but how you lose the game is something that we always talk
- 48:42about. Don't just go down there and get
- 48:44your back blown out, you know, give some fight.
- 48:47Let let me let me see it so that I can say yes, all right, we're
- 48:52going to be OK in hypothetically in this position or in this
- 48:57area. But you know, right now I can't
- 49:01say where we're going to be OK at.
- 49:04I, I, I don't know. I mean, besides quarterback,
- 49:07obviously we, we, we, we have a quarterback always said it
- 49:10running healthy. Yeah, presuming he stays
- 49:13healthy, always say that running back.
- 49:15I have a feeling we're going to bring somebody else in it
- 49:16running back. We know what we need.
- 49:19We we know we need a larger receiver, we know we need
- 49:23defensive ends, even though our guys went down and they should
- 49:26be healthy. But we just don't have that big
- 49:30name that everyone is looking for, You know, will you bring
- 49:34someone in? So we've got a a lot of things
- 49:38that can look, you know, McGee, when when McGee comes in, but to
- 49:43me, he he shows out. Will this be Wagner's last year?
- 49:49I I don't know. So if you have, if you have
- 49:53someone outside of Wagner who can wear the green dot or who
- 49:58you're thinking is on the squad, then let that person let, let
- 50:04Wagner get a breather and let's see how somebody else handles
- 50:09the position because we aren't we, we aren't going anywhere.
- 50:13We aren't doing anything. Let these guys play.
- 50:16You got to see what what they're about and and if we get romped
- 50:22by putting forth the best effort, then so be it.
- 50:25That's what happens. Yeah.
- 50:27So that's, that's honestly what's frustrated me because
- 50:31Jordan McGee had a play where he just went sideline to sideline
- 50:36with some speed and it was a beautiful tackle out of nowhere,
- 50:40right? I want to see more of that.
- 50:42But yet you've got Bobby in there playing 100% of the snaps.
- 50:45And there are three players that have had over 2000 career,
- 50:52actually 2000 career tackles, right?
- 50:56Bobby Wagner needs 25 more to get to that and I honestly think
- 51:02that they're keeping him in there so he could do this.
- 51:06So it's Ray Lewis, London Fletcher and Bobby Wagner.
- 51:11So I I feel that they are letting the man play because he
- 51:15has a chance to break some of these records does not help the
- 51:19advancement of your younger players, right?
- 51:22And that's why I've been watching.
- 51:23That's why I've been going back and watching the all 22, even
- 51:26though we're getting our ass kicked, because I want to see
- 51:28how these younger players are playing, right?
- 51:31Looking at the PFF grade on defense for us, Bobby was our
- 51:37number one player on defense, which is great.
- 51:40Von Miller was up there too. Preston Smith, three, Guess
- 51:44what? All three of those guys are old
- 51:46as hell. They're not the future of this
- 51:47team, right? What the hell did Johnny Newton
- 51:50do, right? What the hell?
- 51:52Johnny Newton was 14th, had a 49th grade.
- 51:56But if we're going to lose, we're not going to do well then
- 52:00I would rather lose with these young kids and have them get
- 52:03some experience under their belt, then have these old heads
- 52:06in there that are not going to be on this roster next year or
- 52:09should not be as big a contributing piece on the roster
- 52:13next year. And, and it goes back to
- 52:18obviously I'm not a pro, never played a pro, but it goes back
- 52:20to the, the human aspect of things.
- 52:24I look at when I was playing JV football and my goal was to make
- 52:29varsity. And, and it was a situation
- 52:32similar to where we are, where the coach said because of the
- 52:37effort that I showed I'm a movie up to varsity now.
- 52:42We only had a couple games left where a lot of kids may have
- 52:46thrown the tile in because they just, but I, I wanted to show
- 52:50them something. And so that's why I say free,
- 52:52forget the pay, if you will. They're humans who want to
- 52:57succeed. If, and, and I had the
- 53:00opportunity to, when I got in to play hard and to, to read my
- 53:05keys and to, to get the quarterback sack or to, to, you
- 53:09know, TfL. So I, I know it is, it's the
- 53:14same in the professional league from college on down the to, to,
- 53:18to, to high school. You know, you want to get in
- 53:20there and make that play. So let these guys who are
- 53:23anxious and to truthfully see what you have, because
- 53:26realistically I take that back. The coaches know what they have.
- 53:32We as fans don't know what we have and we want to see, if you
- 53:37will, but they know we as fans want to be able to see.
- 53:40I don't know if they do though, man, because you talk about it,
- 53:43right? You love saying, well, it's
- 53:45practice. You're going up against your
- 53:46brother, You're not giving 100%. Well, you're giving it 100% when
- 53:50you're going up against a guy wearing a different colored
- 53:53jersey who was also playing for a contract or a spot in a
- 53:56roster, right? I'm not saying guys are dogging
- 53:59it in practice, but if you really want to see the merit of
- 54:02a player, you see it in a game during live hits, live reps
- 54:07where it counts, right? And you only have so much time
- 54:12during practice. You only have so many padded
- 54:14practices a season to begin with, right?
- 54:16And this week going into Dallas, super short week.
- 54:20What the hell are they going to see out of these guys?
- 54:22Nothing. So that's when you need a Johnny
- 54:25Newton to show you something. That's when you need a Jalen
- 54:29Holmes to show you something or Jordan McGee to show you
- 54:31something. Because I'm not seeing what I
- 54:33want to see out of some of these younger pics, right?
- 54:37I'm sorry, but Ben said it has not impressed me at all.
- 54:41And I don't know what's going on because said it was a shame that
- 54:46Earth's went down, but it's a chance for the younger kids to
- 54:50step up. I'm not seeing the younger kid
- 54:52step up. You had Coulson yank off your
- 54:54other tight end go out and not play this game either.
- 54:58Ben said it gets a ton of snaps, doesn't contribute at all.
- 55:03Right? What what is going on with this
- 55:05kid? You you move up to get him in
- 55:07the second round. And I am not seeing anything
- 55:10that's warranted that move, right?
- 55:13And maybe he's just not performing in practice, I don't
- 55:17know. But I'm also not seeing perform
- 55:19on the field. He had two targets, one catch
- 55:21for five yards. That's it.
- 55:23And to me, if he's supposed to be the heir apparent to Zach
- 55:26Ertz because it's not John Bates.
- 55:27John Bates is a blocking tight end.
- 55:30So to me said it is your ertz next man up.
- 55:34I'm not seeing it at all. Well, maybe he might develop in
- 55:39the offseason, too. I don't know, but agreed we need
- 55:46to see more and how many guys at once again.
- 55:51So it's stats like that. They say I like you, but I can't
- 55:58keep you. I it's one of those things that
- 56:01that's what we're, we're going to see a lot of that I've I
- 56:03would imagine. Yeah, I mean, Drake Jackson got
- 56:0922 snaps, right, left outside linebacker, OK.
- 56:13Jacob Martin got 43 snaps, right.
- 56:15You mean to tell me that some of those snaps couldn't have gone
- 56:19to Kate Medrano, This kid that was touted a ton during
- 56:24preseason and training camp about his speed and what he can
- 56:28do at linebacker who is not getting any reps at linebacker.
- 56:32He's in on pretty much every special teams tackle, but
- 56:35they're not letting him get in and linebacker, right?
- 56:38And I'm at the point of that's what I want to see.
- 56:41That is why I'm watching the game.
- 56:43These are glorified pre season games for me at this point
- 56:46because I don't think we're going to win.
- 56:48And really the wins don't matter, right?
- 56:51I know what I have in a Bobby Wagner.
- 56:53I know what I get with a Frankie Louver, right?
- 56:56I don't know what I get with these other young kids and are
- 57:00we going to see that against true competition?
- 57:03That's what I want in these next two games, not Bobby breaking
- 57:06some record or Vaughn, you know, getting his $1,000,000 bonus
- 57:11because he gets his two extra sacks.
- 57:13I want to see these other guys and say OK, well because he did
- 57:17this and showed he could do that.
- 57:19Maybe that's not a spot that we need to worry about in the draft
- 57:22because we only have 6 picks next year.
- 57:24Well, that's not a spot we worry about during free agency and I,
- 57:26I'm. Not saying that right now, yeah.
- 57:29And it, and it's one thing to where guys say like, I can do
- 57:32it, I can do it. Well, you're doing it in
- 57:34practice. And as you said, now it's live
- 57:36fire. The bullets are coming at your
- 57:38head. How are you going to react?
- 57:41So I, I agree with you, we, it needs to be seen.
- 57:45And I would imagine if second quarter or not second the
- 57:50second-half, we'll see that. I would I wouldn't imagine at
- 57:54the Philadelphia game second quarter, seeing that, you know,
- 58:00it's like you said, a preseason game and a lot of times the
- 58:03preseason guys, what do they do? They play a couple series and
- 58:06then they come out and let the other guys showcase their
- 58:09talents to see what they have. So, so this is actually, like
- 58:12you said, Ted, the second-half of preseason, but for the
- 58:17regular season. Yeah, and I know there are fans
- 58:20that are paying their hard earned money to go to the game
- 58:23and that they don't want to watch that.
- 58:25They want to watch the starters go out there.
- 58:27But from my perspective, I want to see what Burks can do, right?
- 58:30Can Burke step in and be that number 2, assuming that Debo's
- 58:35not here next year because we need someone else to do it.
- 58:38And Lane is on IR, Mccaffrey's staying on IR.
- 58:41They're not bringing him back, right?
- 58:43I, I don't, sorry. Chris Moore does not excite me,
- 58:46right? What Burks has done with the
- 58:49opportunities he's been given does.
- 58:51Are we going to get a chance to see that with Josh Johnson
- 58:53throwing him the ball or Jeff Driscoll throwing him the ball?
- 58:57I highly doubt that. But you know what reps are reps
- 59:01and that's why I'm excited to be there on Christmas Day.
- 59:06On top of the fact that we only get 8 games, eight regular
- 59:10season games, so there's no way in the world I was going to miss
- 59:14this one, even though it is on Christmas.
- 59:17I'll be hanging out there and just looking forward to it.
- 59:20And when the game is over, I'm going to be the last person in
- 59:23that parking lot smoking a cigar, whether we win or lose,
- 59:27just because the season's done and we're not going to be back
- 59:29there at Northwest until September.
- 59:31And that's that's what really bums me out is that this season
- 59:34of so much hope is just ending with so many questions at this
- 59:39point. And you hear a lot of people
- 59:42talking about will, will Cliff be here?
- 59:45Will are they going to keep? Damn, yes, they're going to keep
- 59:48Dan Quinn because they realize that we were decimated with
- 59:52injuries. And no matter who you are, if
- 59:57your if your first or second guy isn't playing, you're in
- 1:00:00trouble. So that's going to be their
- 1:00:03excuse. Will it hold for if it happens
- 1:00:09next year? Maybe not.
- 1:00:11Because if you were going to say, well, you had the
- 1:00:13opportunity to draft better. When you did have an injury that
- 1:00:17someone who's on that same caliber or or close to it should
- 1:00:22be able to step in. And we always hear next man up,
- 1:00:25but our next man up have been falling short, if you will.
- 1:00:29They not to say they haven't put the effort, they just don't
- 1:00:31falling short. And in the NFL, you stick around
- 1:00:36by the amount of games you've won and they'll they'll take the
- 1:00:41the injury bait for a little while, but you can't hang your
- 1:00:44hat on it. No, you can't, all right, and
- 1:00:47I'll give them a little bit of slack with some of it, but you
- 1:00:52have a 53 man roster for a reason, right?
- 1:00:55We are not the only team that has been hit with injuries.
- 1:00:58The 49ers have been decimated by injuries, but yet they still
- 1:01:02find a way to win or have competitive games and put stuff
- 1:01:05up. And it's just they had they lost
- 1:01:08their starting quarterback. Purdy missed what, 9 games this
- 1:01:11season and they're still winning, right?
- 1:01:13They had Christian McCaffrey, you know, they other things that
- 1:01:16they do to pick up that slack. It's just the roster was so bare
- 1:01:21when Peters took it over and he worked a miracle with a last
- 1:01:26place schedule, right? The Patriots had a last place
- 1:01:30schedule this season and we saw what happened.
- 1:01:33We moved to a not first place schedule, but pretty damn close
- 1:01:37to it and we just couldn't hang on the competition.
- 1:01:39That and our actual injuries are why we've only won four games
- 1:01:44this year, right? Next year we're going to have an
- 1:01:47easier schedule. That's why the NFL, you can go
- 1:01:49from worst to 1st so easy because of what they do from a
- 1:01:53parody perspective with the schedule and how all that works
- 1:01:55out. But in actuality, I'm watching
- 1:01:58these teams like the Rams, like the Seahawks, like the Broncos
- 1:02:03in their games, right? Watching the freaking Packers
- 1:02:06Bears game the other night when Caleb chucked that ball down
- 1:02:09there and won that thing in OT, I just don't see our team doing
- 1:02:15that right now the way this roster is constructed.
- 1:02:18Which not going to lie, concerns me, right?
- 1:02:20Because Peters went all in to really get us back to that
- 1:02:25championship game because we were 64 freaking quarters away.
- 1:02:29So I can't blame him on that. But he his one of his first
- 1:02:33press conferences was he's going to build this team through the
- 1:02:36draft, not free agency. That shifted when we were that
- 1:02:40close and Jaden was actually that good.
- 1:02:43Well, the problem is now we robbed Peter to pay Paul, gave
- 1:02:46up those draft picks. And we don't have a lot of
- 1:02:50people to fill in some of these holes that are still obviously
- 1:02:52apparent on this roster. And like you always like to say,
- 1:02:55that's why he gets paid the millions and we don't.
- 1:02:57So let's see if he can earn that paycheck.
- 1:03:01You got to juggle. You better be a good juggler.
- 1:03:04And it's coming, it's coming out and maybe he's not a good
- 1:03:07juggler. He can handle it, but he's just
- 1:03:11not a good juggler. But we'll see.
- 1:03:14It's too early to say change everything.
- 1:03:18These people are in place for a reason.
- 1:03:20And I think that, you know, we're going into to to the third
- 1:03:25season or the second season with Peters, but the third season.
- 1:03:29So we're going to see how it goes, man.
- 1:03:33We're going into the third season.
- 1:03:35So you got to give somebody enough time and and a lot of
- 1:03:39times we call for their heads very early.
- 1:03:43What did they say? The microwave society heat and
- 1:03:46eat. Well, unfortunately, this is
- 1:03:50going to be a oven. It's it's not going to be a
- 1:03:52microwave. And that oven takes a little
- 1:03:54while to heat up. So just just hold on to yours,
- 1:03:58ladies and gentlemen, as hard as it may be.
- 1:04:02Yeah, it's it's going to be interesting offseason wise.
- 1:04:05I, I really cannot wait to hear the press conference that Peters
- 1:04:08is going to have at the end of the year where Josh Harris
- 1:04:10beside him. Because I also, I don't want
- 1:04:12them to blame the entire season on injuries, right?
- 1:04:15I think it was way more than that.
- 1:04:17I think there were a lot of other factors and I I hope they
- 1:04:20don't ignore those other things and we'll talk about that at
- 1:04:24another day. But in the meantime, you know
- 1:04:26how many sleeps in a wake up. Well today is Tuesday, so we got
- 1:04:34Wednesday. We got one day and a wake up
- 1:04:35Ted. One day and a wake up brother
- 1:04:38before we play the blue and silver.
- 1:04:40My Christmas Eve, I'm doing all my tailgate shopping.
- 1:04:43I confirm that all the stores I need to hit are going to be
- 1:04:45open, so I'm out the door at 6:00 AM to get that done.
- 1:04:49I can't wait to see you and the rest of the Burgundy and Gold
- 1:04:52they're going to be out there. I, I typically have a bunch of
- 1:04:55Cowboys fans that request permission to come join us
- 1:04:57because we're a Burgundy and gold tailgate first.
- 1:04:59You know, I'm, I'm going to enjoy a silver and blue day at
- 1:05:02least during the tailgate and we'll see what happens during
- 1:05:05the game and right, we'll let the boys handle that.
- 1:05:09I'm looking forward to, you know, no more fights on the
- 1:05:12field. And actually, did you hear what
- 1:05:15DQ said after the game? Like why he just kind of stood
- 1:05:19back to watch everybody, why he was waiting to see.
- 1:05:24If anyone else is going to get into another fight.
- 1:05:27During the handshake. Oh, OK, OK, I got you.
- 1:05:33Luckily nothing happened because you know our guys.
- 1:05:35You know, getting suspended. Good news is.
- 1:05:37The guys that got kicked out, none of them are suspended for
- 1:05:40the game this week. So they're going to get fined,
- 1:05:44obviously. And oh, I can't wait to see what
- 1:05:46Hard Knocks is going to say here in a couple of hours with what
- 1:05:49the hell just happened. But in the meantime, we got
- 1:05:52Dallas. Let's focus on we got Dallas and
- 1:05:55and as I said, guys. One game a year I pay homage to
- 1:06:00our old name and our old uniform.
- 1:06:02So I'll I'll be representing the skins on Thursday and I can't
- 1:06:08wait to break out my old gear and pay homage.
- 1:06:12And those of you that don't have Netflix, the game will be on.
- 1:06:16Broadcast TV by I'm going to say it has to be it has to be on
- 1:06:20broadcast TV because there. Are a lot of people that were.
- 1:06:21Asking just search I think it's going to be on CBS don't quote
- 1:06:26me but it will be on broadcast TV so just try and find if you
- 1:06:29guys don't have Netflix so still get a chance to watch it yeah
- 1:06:32well hey you guys if we don't see.
- 1:06:34You have a Merry Christmas, a happy holiday, happy Hanukkah,
- 1:06:38happy Kwanzaa, anything that you believe in and I missed out.
- 1:06:42Don't chalk it up to the heart, not the head.
- 1:06:45And hey, we will go from there and see you guys on Thursday
- 1:06:49because we got a football game to play.
- 1:06:52Win, lose or tie 00, we got a we got.
- 1:06:57Could you imagine that? No.
- 1:06:59That means we're going into overtime and stuck there longer
- 1:07:03and no. Please don't.
- 1:07:06It's that bad. They've already told boys.
- 1:07:09Yeah, yeah. So all.
- 1:07:10Right, guys? But seriously though, we'll see
- 1:07:12you on Thursday and we've haven't had a good season.
- 1:07:16But at the same time, you guys are still repping it hard.
- 1:07:18And like I always say, you repping harder, you don't Rep it
- 1:07:21at all. Rally, Captain Tailgate, Ted DMV
- 1:07:23Mess Hall Peace, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.