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Does CIG know what makes their game fun? · Open Comms Radio | A Star Citizen call-in show

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  Oh God, I don't even want to start the show today.
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  I'm just, I've been jamming so hard.
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  I'm a big fan. Big big big fan of that intro.
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  Me too. Every time it starts, you know,
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  my feet start tapping, my head starts bobbing.
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  Oh yeah. And then I just say, you know
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  what? I'm going to log into the verse
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  and do some shenanigans. And the crazy thing about your
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  feet is you're a paraplegic, so for those toes to start.
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  Tapping. They're not even attached.
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  Actually they're they're in a jar.
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  You drama, we got toes and jars. Yeah, toes and jars.
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  We got heads and jars. You name it, we got it.
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  Oh. My gosh, what are we doing?
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  What are we doing here? Could could we elect Nixon?
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  That would be great. Robach Nixon.
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  That actually I'll. Sneak into your house at night.
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  Didn't rack up the joy. I you you say Richard Nixon, but
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  I hear Boston ass. It Yeah, well, Star Wars, I'm
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  not known for my my impersonations.
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  No, I think it's no. I'm saying Nixon and Boston ass
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  are the same guy. No.
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  No, no, no. OK, we'll see that thing, you
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  know? But that's not what I was
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  getting at, man. I'm talking why are we even
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  here? What are we doing?
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  What's this about? You have 42 I believe was the
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  the answer to that question, the number 42.
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  Which translates to just have as much fun as you can, have a good
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  time, enjoy yourself not too, not Not too much fun that people
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  start collecting information on the fun you're having.
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  You know what I mean, right? Not too much fun that.
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  People I mean Incognito motors for I guess.
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  But enough fun and that's why we're here doing what we're
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  doing. And that's why we're here every
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  week on Open Comms Radio. I am Jar Jar Jabroni and I'm
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  here with my Co host and good friend the best guy at Fortnite.
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  Duke later the second I. Didn't play that fucking game.
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  Duke later the second best guy at Fortnite.
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  Well, you're, you're, you're popping out there, buddy.
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  Earlier, before the show started, Duke was having
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  problems with his Internet, but he assured me it is fixed.
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  But alas, it is not. So what we're going to do today
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  on this show is we're going to do what we do on every show.
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  We're just going to dive right in.
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  We're going to dive right into talking about Star Citizen and
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  we're going to pull up people from the couch.
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  If you, if you are listening, if you've been listening to the
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  show on Spotify or YouTube or whatever, thank you for
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  listening and just know that you can always pop out into our
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  Discord here and become a very, very welcome guest.
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  Today we have four people already in the chat, so I'm
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  going to start it with the person in first place here we're
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  going to bring up Cosmic hobo, Cosmic Hobo I saw first in line.
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  Cosmic Hobo. The CIG know what makes their
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  game fun. Yeah, I'd say so, but they're
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  not capitalized on it enough. Oh.
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  No, Duke, Glad to. Have you back?
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  I never left baby. Tell us more about.
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  That I would also take us down the philosophical path of what
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  is fun. What is fun I don't know And
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  how? We all have our own definitions
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  of fun. Yeah, I'm having fun.
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  Have fun, right? Now I, I have fun and like CZS
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  and doing exec hangers and hanging out with friends.
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  You're one of those. Murphy, our glorious leader has
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  fun slaughtering people. Wow, cold blood.
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  That's because he he gets the blood going and God help you if
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  you're on his path. So do you feel like CIG provides
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  you with enough fun in the game? I think it could provide me with
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  quite a bit more honestly. But you just like run around
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  maps and and shooting at people. That's how a lot of games with
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  any sort of a shooting mechanic, FPS, third person shooters and
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  some RPGs, yeah, that that that's that is one Ave. for fun.
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  Well, what's what's stopping them from from doing more of
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  that? You know it's.
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  A good question, I would like to know the answer to that as well.
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  And why? Would be good if they didn't
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  learn that more of that. Oh yeah, I think so.
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  'Cause I actually, I put in my survey.
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  When we all did that survey, we actually did it live.
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  I think for Duke, I put in my survey.
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  I want more CZ exact hanger loops.
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  Something like that loop please, because that is what I have
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  spent probably the most time in for anything for this game over
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  the last like 10 years. I think they're too hard to get
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  into. I think for the for that kind of
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  like game loop, that kind of like dungeon or whatever.
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  I know they're like right there, but I.
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  Think they're an elevator? Usually that's about all you
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  need is an elevator and airlock. Yeah, yeah.
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  But I think the fact that when you go there, there's no
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  guarantee that anyone's going to be in there.
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  So then like you're just basically waiting in a lobby,
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  you know, or you can, you can run through it and nobody shows
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  up. So in, in that sense, it's too
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  hard to like get into to, to get one.
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  I pop in sometimes and I listen to you guys and I'm, I'm just
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  listening to see if you guys are playing, if you're fighting
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  someone or not, you know? So here's the thing with the CZS
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  and stuff too, and I I could have missed this if there was
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  something, but how does Joe Schmo who just picked up the
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  game, learn about the CZS and the exact and what's going on?
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  Good question, Duke. Or is that like a deep dive?
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  You've got to be queued into your emails and checking the
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  website and into with the community?
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  Or can I just open the game and find this fun?
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  That's a good question. I, I don't know if there's a
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  line of bread crumbs or anything.
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  I, I, I'm so far past that point by this point.
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  Like it, it's, it's one of those things you've done something for
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  so long and someone, it's like, OK, I'm going to use the example
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  of riding a bike. Even though I, I, I, I can't
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  ride a bike. I I I can't do it.
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  It's not too late. You really can't ride a bike.
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  I, I, it was a few years ago I last tried and I just, I can't,
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  I don't have the the the balance to do so I don't know why 'cause
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  I'm. I'm gonna help you.
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  I'm gonna teach you how to ride. No.
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  Yeah. I only learned how to ride three
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  years ago. You can do it.
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  Oh, OK. I believe.
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  I can't do the scooters either. That was that was what I first
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  really attempted was the scooters.
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  OK, never mind, you're doomed. Yeah, I I kept falling off the
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  scooters. So with anyway, that aside.
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  What makes you like you can? Fly a space ship, add scooters.
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  It's like riding a bike. That's what I was going for.
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  Like you do it so much and then like, like, and then you just
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  like, Oh yeah, you just do the thing.
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  You ride the bike. It's like, but for CZS, it's
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  like, oh, how did you, how did you first learn how to CZ or how
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  did you first learn how to ride a bike?
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  And someone told you. Even where to go?
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  Or even where to go. But also with a bike, if you put
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  it in front of a child, they're not going to immediately know
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  what to do like you see. Some kids too.
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  Yeah, it's just. What if her did?
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  What if there were one? What if there were one?
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  CZ like one big. Just one location CZ.
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  Yeah, one big location. Only one place people could go.
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  Do you think then it would be easier cuz then everyone's
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  saying go to this place. It would be harder.
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  What? Cuz then you could just one
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  group would camp that one. Do you mean would it be easier
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  to find the fun? Is that where you were getting
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  at guide chart or you're saying it would?
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  Be easier to, yeah, it would be easier to find the fun and it
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  would be more straightforward in where to go because there's only
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  one place to go, you know, I suppose.
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  So like, where do people play multiplayer?
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  And they'd say go to fucking Ghost Hollow or whatever.
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  Even though again, that should be something built into the game
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  right? Like you should see a message in
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  your mobi glass or something. Yeah, I mean even still that's
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  the simpler solution, text based solution.
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  Yeah, you get a message from Rough and ready that's like,
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  yeah, but it's got to be. I don't, I don't see I'm an
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  idiot, right? And even now I've done C ZS with
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  you guys plenty of times, but I I basically just grab onto the
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  back of somebody's armor and like follow them around.
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  Yeah, that's what I did. At first I'm like, I don't know
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  why we're here. Everyone's talking about cards.
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  I don't know why we're getting, you know, cards.
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  Maybe it's someone's birthday. I'm shooting people.
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  That seems like it's helping and then that's it.
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  Everyone starts out that way, though with ACZ, they're wildly
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  confused. It's very disorienting.
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  It's. Hard, but I'm going to end that
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  way too. It's like, it's like the first
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  time you do laser tag. Like does everyone remember the
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  first time they ever did laser tag?
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  The low light, the the fog, the the random lights everywhere.
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  The cocaine all. Right, we have a lot of guests.
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  We have a lot of guests. Oh, thank you, thank you, thank
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  you, thank you. Yes, Vertical Hatter says.
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  This sounds like he has a cloaca.
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  I don't know who he is. And what is that AC shell?
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  Any of this? I don't know.
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  Our next guest has this. Has this Pluto guy.
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  Has he come up here before? He's not.
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  First time caller. First time caller.
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  Pluto Productions. You can just accept that there.
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  Oh, yeah. Welcome to the couch, Pluto
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  Productions. Hello everyone.
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  How you doing? I'm doing all right.
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  Pluto Does CIG know what makes their game fun?
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  I do not know. OK.
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  All right. Thanks for coming on the
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  seminary. Did Skeeter put you up?
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  To this I was about to get a response.
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  What do you? Find.
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  Yeah, so just like. So let me.
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  Let me hijack Charter. What do you find?
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  I'm on vacation mode. Oddly enough, the opposite of
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  what y'all find fun. I like going out middle of
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  nowhere looking for rocks. Well, you can do that.
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  OK, and does CIG make that fun? It's fun.
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  It's fun. Are they providing enough of
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  that? Can I tell you something?
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  I don't think that's what I I, I don't think they are providing
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  enough of that. And I'll tell you why the rocks
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  don't move. OK.
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  All the rocks are stationary and that that wouldn't be the case
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  in space. That wouldn't be the case.
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  You know, you'd have to like align with these things in
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  space. In space, they're because
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  they're all going around, right? Oh Jesus, so you want you want
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  like you want orbiting spinning asteroids that you have to
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  synchronize yourself with Jar jar.
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  Most of our listeners can barely land without crashing.
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  I know. Most of our callers too.
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  OK. Simple solution to this.
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  It's called the Orion. What's the Orion have to do?
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  What's that? What is that?
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  Well, the Orion you just has one big beam that you just fire into
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  the asteroid field and voila, you've you've mined 30
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  asteroids. Really.
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  That that sounds like it's good to work.
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  Wave it around like a big lightsaber, just catching
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  everything. See.
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  Now you're talking my language now.
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  Now I can use. Star Wars references as the Star
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  Dr. we're talking about. Yeah, something that's made,
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  something that's. The Death Star beam.
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  He's Don't get them started on the purple lightsabers.
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  What's wrong with the purple lightsaber?
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  I said don't get them. I said don't get them.
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  Samuel L Jackson wanted a motherfucking purple lightsaber.
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  So Samuel Oh motherfucking Jackson gets what he wants.
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  Do you think Samuel L Jackson impression?
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  No, that's not. Very.
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  Then who? Who was it?
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  Who was it? What if it wasn't Samuel L
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  Jackson? It was your Chris Roberts
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  impression? If If you did, here's a question
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  for you. If you can make one thing in the
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  game purple, what would it be? Pluto.
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  The ND BS or some other form of what?
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  Oh yeah, we need some purple lasers.
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  Some purple poo poo. We need all, we need all kinds
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  of colors of weapons. That's.
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  True, that might be dangerous. I agree we might be fortniting
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  it. You you'd be able to tell what's
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  being fired at you if it whether it be a a ballistic, an energy
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  or rail gun, if you knew what color it was.
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  Maybe you know how to avoid it, do you?
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  Want to color code the that's dark, I don't know.
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  Who's the good and the bad guys in Star Wars?
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  Is their the weapon? Colours no, this this makes it
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  too arcady, you know what I mean.
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  It leads me down a a wrong path. But Mr. Tim for PC asks us and
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  ask the couch where you can type in your questions for the couch.
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  He says. With 2026 having a focus towards
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  social tools, what is a feature you would like to see make it?
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  In 2026 having a focus towards social tools, what is a what is
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  a social tool feature? I think he's saying you'd like
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  to see make it. In yeah, the ability to see the
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  bottom of the player list. Oh my goodness.
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  Yeah, alphabetically advantage, but many of you are not.
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  Fair enough. Yeah, I just want like proper
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  menus for things. Oh, you know, proper ship.
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  Yeah, proper like engineering, like parts lists and stuff.
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  Friend and foe, Those are not social, social tools.
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  Joe, Jared, were you reading a? Question friend and foe list.
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  Friend and foe list. Oh, how about org pools?
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  Org stuff? Yes, that was my next thing.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Well, you can't take all the things, hobo.
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  Sorry. I'll, I'll leave some things.
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  Thank. You did the did the hailing ship
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  get in there? Well done, it did.
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  Not get in there that would be good.
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  I mean, we, we had that at some point living.
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  Sort of cover, Yeah, sort of. I think we stole that.
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  It's just not very apparent. Yeah, it would be cool if your
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  characteristics showed up on the on the screen.
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  You hail Duke Pretty. Awesome.
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  Yeah, see Duke. We had that, had that for a
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  while. Did we really?
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  That would have been, was that before your time jar, JAR, Yeah,
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  Yeah, we had FOIP over over IP. It was, I mean FOIP over face
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  over IP. It actually worked very, very
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  briefly. I know it's FOIP over IP.
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  So it's face over IP. It's the ATM machine.
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  ATM machine, Yeah, yeah, it was in there and and it would, it
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  would work sort of sometimes. Kind of works still, but not
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  over the haling. Haling just doesn't work.
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  Like that you all told the base scanner yet?
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  No, I have not. Have you done?
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  It I've used it with the Toby not.
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  My character at all. I I used it, I don't know, but
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  the Toby it works it's. Not that, but the last two
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  patches it hasn't worked. No, that's not what I'm
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  referencing in the character creator.
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  I forget what it is. There's a special sequence of
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  buttons you can press, but the camera will look at your face,
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  then try to generate the character to look like you.
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  Yeah, and mine would not match me at all.
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  Yeah. That's what I was talking about.
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  Me too. Oh OK, it's the space bar.
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  Well, Duke's. Duke's character.
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  Yeah. Yeah, Duke's character does not
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  look like Duke, let's be real, OK?
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  I don't look like my character. You nobody looks like.
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  They're that's my son from the future.
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  That's you if you if you had a child with Matthew McConaughey.
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  Oh, if only. I know if you had a love child
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  with Matthew McConaughey and Joe Dirt, that would be your
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  character. All right, all right, all right.
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  You have a mullet? Yeah.
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  It's fitting that one of the first hairstyles, hairstyles
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  they chose was the mullet. But I have fun doing that.
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  I have fun playing around with with your little characters.
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  I just got Skeeter's character. I have to, I have to cut them
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  out and turn them into like a a thing, you know, that's fun to
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  do. They they do all that stuff
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  pretty well, yeah. Well, I think he's I think he's
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  itching to get on the couch. Maybe we'll get him, but first
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  we're going to invite a new person up to the couch.
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  Pluto, is there anything you like to say before we bring up
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  our next guest? It's a very comfortable couch,
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  this is. All.
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  Right. Thank you.
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  Lord Anubis. I'm here often.
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  Lord Anubis was next, I think the yes.
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  But you said somebody new. Hello.
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  Lord, we lost Pluto and and we. Got yes, yes, I I am here.
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  I am now sitting on the couch. I'm bending my knees and I have
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  landed on the couch. Does CIG know what makes their
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  game fun? You know, I think CIG is not one
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  entity anymore. It seems to be an assemblage of
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  game developer tentacles that are kind of all over the place
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  and not coalesced into the right, you know, vision at the
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  moment. Because you, you have things
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  like these resource drives and everything like that and, and
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  these other drives and, and, and they aren't, they are fun and
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  you have CZS and they are fun, but then they're releasing ships
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  that don't work like and rely on patches to fix it.
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  You know, they do not implement proper communication tools.
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  You know, like, you know, global chat and other types of chat
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  that you know, you can go on certain chat channels and barely
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  anything to identify who's standing 3 feet in front of.
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  And that, that's a big problem for MMO.
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  I mean, part of multiplayer is knowing who's a player.
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  And you know, I mean, I know they want immersion.
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  I know they want it to be very simple and look like you're in
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  real life. But you know, this is a game and
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  you know, it only makes sense to to allow the community to come
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  forth. So I don't know, like I think
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  they do and they don't. Did you did you play this latest
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  mission with the Molina mold? No, I have not been able to yet.
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  I've been working a lot so my playtime has been cut down.
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  Well, it was mostly, it was mostly delivery and like
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  collection, it's just stuff you've always done and they just
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  put it, you know, you got to grind away at it.
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  I finally accomplished this, this mission, new mission set
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  and I got the fabricator. Whoa.
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  So have you fabricated anything? Fabricator is not in the game
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  yet. So I have yes.
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  Yeah, he he basically kick started the fabricator.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  And once they finish producing, it'll be it'll be shipped out
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  and the first shipment, first shipment.
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  It's still an alpha. Yes, it's, it's still an alpha,
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  even though it has more features than most AAA games at this
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  moment. But you know, you know, our, so
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  we're getting, we're going to probably going to get skins for
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  those fabricators. And so the 1:00 you got is a
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  special 1. So they're going to sell them
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  skins for that and they're going to be doing this, they're going
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  to be doing that. So they got the customization
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  part down and that is fun. But again, parts of it are fun,
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  parts of it aren't. And I don't think they they all
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  know quite yet what they want to focus on.
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  I, I hope they do know what they want to focus on.
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  I like the snake. I like those kinds of missions.
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  I'd like to see all those like enemies that they're introducing
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  with these stories. I like to see them randomly,
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  maybe not randomly, but you know, spread out that like
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  you're just wandering around doing something else and boom,
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  your Monde can come out at you or whatever.
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  Maybe not the giant worm, that guy might be a bit much, but
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  they they did say they redid the navmesh on a lot of planets to
• 23:45
  allow the fauna to travel more. Specifically, the giant worms.
• 23:52
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:54
  Was it specifically the worms or was that supposed to help
• 23:57
  everything? Yeah, I thought.
• 23:59
  I thought it was just the worm. It would be cool if the herds of
• 24:02
  things actually moved, because right now it's just just plopped
• 24:07
  in there. Was it exclusively the worm or
• 24:10
  especially the worm? The thing you're thinking about
• 24:12
  was the worm. It was just for the worm.
• 24:15
  The worms. Technically there are the
• 24:17
  smaller ones and the bigger ones.
• 24:19
  This all. Do you know?
• 24:20
  But we have Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, they they
• 24:24
  have to go, hey, we need to show up that game that came and went
• 24:28
  easily, you know, I mean, who would who would get addicted to
• 24:31
  that? I mean that would be weird if
• 24:33
  someone was like only dedicated to it and then just like
• 24:36
  abandoned other games to go play it for a very long time and then
• 24:39
  ends up coming back like there's nothing to.
• 24:42
  Do you know would? Do that.
• 24:45
  Yeah, that, that would be very, very weird, especially if
• 24:47
  someone were to come on this show that did that.
• 24:49
  That would that would be kind of odd.
• 24:50
  Yeah. You know.
• 24:54
  So who's up next? So, Lord Nubis, if if you're
• 24:58
  willing to scoot down the couch a little bit, our next guest is
• 25:01
  Wicket. Wicket, a man who introduces
• 25:05
  himself. But you just introduced him.
• 25:12
  Long time listener, occasional caller.
• 25:21
  So does Darth Citizen. You're just.
• 25:24
  You're just. Gonna act.
• 25:25
  You're gonna act like. You're gonna act like nothing
• 25:28
  happened. What happened?
• 25:33
  You would try. You tried to launch a coup here
• 25:37
  at Open Comms Radio. We'll.
• 25:40
  Get to that no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 25:43
  no. Why keep our listeners in
• 25:45
  suspense? OK, this isn't a telenovela, all
• 25:49
  right? Well, I you.
• 25:50
  Need you Need to learn who's in charge here, Wicket.
• 25:52
  Maria. OK.
• 25:53
  Yeah, Maria. Spanish.
• 25:56
  You got you got something to say, Wicket, you got something
• 25:59
  to say. Adios Mio MI Amor MI corazon.
• 26:03
  It is a Nobel. No, Maria, No.
• 26:07
  Anyway, so I think the the intro is the new intro is a clown car.
• 26:17
  When it's a clown car wreck. I want the old intro back and so
• 26:22
  far. Yeah.
• 26:24
  The the staff of Open Comms and the callers have agree with me
• 26:29
  according to the poll. Currently the poll is 67% for
• 26:35
  the old IS. It we.
• 26:39
  There are you on Spice? Yeah, but there's only like 3
• 26:42
  votes and two of them are you? You can't put it twice in your
• 26:46
  own she. One option.
• 26:47
  Actually makes the tracks. In any event, just I I like the
• 26:51
  old the old the old the old intro it had AI don't know it
• 26:58
  had a had its own vibe to it it. Had your voice in it?
• 27:02
  The old intro had your voice in it, Wicket.
• 27:05
  That's what you love about it. You can.
• 27:06
  If you. Want if you want to remove my
• 27:08
  voice? If you want to remove that part.
• 27:11
  Go ahead, I don't care. Unbelievable.
• 27:13
  You. Want to remove anything to do
• 27:14
  with me. Do that.
• 27:16
  Hey, can I tell you something? Can I tell you something?
• 27:18
  I just want the old. I just like that old tune that
• 27:21
  that tab came up with. That whole theme was awesome.
• 27:24
  Them every time I heard it right away click, I'm like, oh man,
• 27:28
  time to head to the couch, time to talk Star Citizen with my
• 27:31
  pals. And now I hear that Ding Ding,
• 27:36
  Ding. Well, I can't even do it man.
• 27:38
  It starts making my mouth sore. Clown Car circus you.
• 27:42
  Got to exercise it more ditty. Yeah, it's it's called Goblin
• 27:47
  Marching Band. You know, I wasn't convinced
• 27:50
  before, but now I am. And Grazio.
• 27:53
  Made it. For us, Grazio made it for.
• 27:56
  Us anyway, I just, you know. Garageio is that garage dot IO?
• 28:02
  Is that an AI platform? No, no, he's an artist and
• 28:06
  Wicked just doesn't appreciate or seem to care about art.
• 28:11
  Real art. Which is interesting.
• 28:12
  Well, I love. I love.
• 28:15
  The beholder and this beholder does not like it.
• 28:19
  All right, well, they're. Not a fan of the holders,
• 28:22
  they're a pain in the ass. If you don't think our new intro
• 28:25
  is fun. You'd be holding these.
• 28:28
  You can send your comments down below and and you could, you
• 28:32
  could do something like that, but we're going to continue
• 28:34
  talking about a game we do all like and think is fun.
• 28:39
  Do an awakening. Oh, we're a dead game.
• 28:44
  Dead game. Yeah.
• 28:46
  So. Why wouldn't it be crazy if
• 28:48
  someone just played it for like months and then would just drop
• 28:52
  into your discord and completely different game just to talk shit
• 28:56
  about it and then leave to go play it again?
• 28:58
  That would be pretty weird. Yeah.
• 29:00
  They were like, you should all come play, dude.
• 29:03
  It's really great. At the time, it was awesome.
• 29:06
  At the time, Listen, listen. When Dune Awakening came out, it
• 29:10
  was awesome. It was amazing.
• 29:11
  Everything was fresh, everything was new.
• 29:13
  There was stuff to do. But once you've done it all,
• 29:16
  it's just kind of like retread, you know, we're just, we're just
• 29:22
  we're. We're going down think knew what
• 29:25
  was fun. They did originally, but then
• 29:29
  they lost the script and I don't know, maybe that new they have a
• 29:33
  new chapter 3 of the main story quest has been has dropped in
• 29:39
  the last couple weeks. I have not even taken the time
• 29:42
  to even look into that. So who knows?
• 29:44
  That might be awesome. But you know how long that's
• 29:46
  going to last? About 5 hours at tops if you're
• 29:48
  really super slow at it. And after that nothing to do.
• 29:54
  Yeah. Nothing meaningful.
• 29:57
  The core gameplay has got to be good, otherwise you're just
• 30:00
  going to jump in for the new the core.
• 30:02
  Was fine. It was.
• 30:03
  Just yeah, But there was no fine.
• 30:06
  Fine is not good. It was more than fine.
• 30:09
  It was the the core, the core gameplay of that game was worked
• 30:14
  well. It wasn't too glitchy.
• 30:17
  Things work like they were supposed to, but once you get to
• 30:20
  a certain level, you know you've you've reached the top of the
• 30:23
  mountain per SE, and there's no more mountains to climb.
• 30:26
  There's nothing more to conquer. And it's just multiples of the
• 30:31
  same thing happening over and over and over again.
• 30:33
  And at some point it's like, why am I even doing this?
• 30:36
  You know, I could see if I was trying to progress and try to
• 30:38
  get a new vehicle, you know, I have to go mine a new or, or I
• 30:43
  have to kill a new enemy to get a component to build, you know,
• 30:47
  stuff like that. But you know, that's my idea of
• 30:50
  progression. But you know, I guess they
• 30:53
  didn't see it that way. Or maybe, you know, they ran out
• 30:56
  of funds to continue doing that or?
• 30:59
  Well, I I think that's the weakness of the.
• 31:01
  Game. Any game design where the fun is
• 31:05
  based on the progression, right? Because you've, you've got to
• 31:08
  keep adding. There has to be other levels to
• 31:11
  jump to. Otherwise people like, Oh well,
• 31:14
  well, why am I still doing this? And you compare that to, and I'm
• 31:19
  sure we all have a game out there.
• 31:21
  We've all got a game that you will play.
• 31:24
  Doesn't matter if you're increasing level.
• 31:26
  It doesn't matter if you're progressing, you're just doing
• 31:28
  it because it's fun. And like for me, like I'll jump
• 31:32
  into chivalry too a lot. I I'm not worried about grinding
• 31:36
  levels. I'm not trying to unlock stuff.
• 31:37
  I'm just in there smashing people with, with battle axes
• 31:41
  and, and having fun. And that's when I think about
• 31:46
  CIG and star system. Do they know what fun is?
• 31:49
  There is some good core gameplay.
• 31:51
  Like some people love mining and I enjoy it too.
• 31:53
  Like I'll, I'll log in, I'll just mine just because it's an
• 31:57
  interesting loop in and of itself.
• 32:00
  I'm not super worried about, am I?
• 32:03
  You know, am I getting the best material?
• 32:05
  Am I earning tons of money? Am I going to unlock something?
• 32:08
  It's just the gameplay itself has to be fun.
• 32:12
  And I think that's where I'm curious, you know, does CIG, do
• 32:16
  they have a good hold of that? Do they know which part of their
• 32:18
  game is fun? And are they going to focus on
• 32:21
  that? Or is it just going to be the
• 32:23
  latest patch and the latest, you know, the way this new drop to
• 32:27
  go out and do and then people will log off after three hours?
• 32:32
  My, my pessimistic answer to that and stock answer would be
• 32:37
  no, they don't know what fun is. But then on the other, on the on
• 32:42
  the double sided coin here, on the other side of that coin is
• 32:46
  of course, they know some limited way of making fun
• 32:48
  because they've generated enough fun for 10s or 20 or hundreds of
• 32:52
  thousands of people to play this game on a weekly basis.
• 32:57
  I mean, we don't know the actual player count every from
• 32:59
  day-to-day, But you know, you can try and kind of guess that
• 33:02
  there's there's a good amount of folks playing this game on a
• 33:06
  day-to-day basis. I mean, we see the folks that
• 33:08
  are playing every single day in our own, in our own Guild.
• 33:11
  How many numbers of the Lord, you know, that are playing
• 33:17
  compared to how many folks are in the Guild?
• 33:21
  So, you know, if you use that as a rough guesstimate, you could
• 33:24
  see how many or few people are actually playing the game and
• 33:29
  actually having fun. And there's plenty of people
• 33:30
  having fun. But the thing that I always come
• 33:33
  back to is things like the following.
• 33:37
  They create a new game loop, which inherently should be fun.
• 33:41
  For instance, they create a quest, a mission that requires
• 33:48
  you to use a system that very often breaks.
• 33:53
  What am I talking about? Simple, recently they just they
• 33:58
  just introduced the the new mining missions, right?
• 34:02
  And the initial part of that is you have to go do hand mining
• 34:07
  and you have to go to a freight elevator on a planetary surface
• 34:10
  to turn it in. So they introduced a new reason
• 34:14
  to go out mining. And it's especially these intro
• 34:17
  missions that are for players that don't have much or are just
• 34:21
  brand new to the game. You know, they may not have a
• 34:24
  mole or a or a prospector. They may have their little pyro
• 34:27
  multi tool and figured out, Oh, I have to put this mining
• 34:30
  attachment in it. And then they go and spend the
• 34:32
  time to gather the resources they were supposed to.
• 34:34
  They go to turn it in and the elevator swallows all their
• 34:37
  stuff and doesn't turn. You know, the mission doesn't
• 34:40
  turn it. That's the that's.
• 34:43
  That's not fun. First of all.
• 34:47
  Well, not. Not for the guy who just spent
• 34:49
  like who knows how many untold hours.
• 34:52
  Figuring. Out how to do all this as a
• 34:54
  brand new player and then only for the Los.
• 34:57
  It's that they should have been. Scared and I.
• 35:00
  Don't people love jump scares? Yeah.
• 35:02
  I play. Lol yeah you put your stuff on.
• 35:04
  The hell that's. Just a waste of time scare for
• 35:08
  the for that player. It is, it is dreadful.
• 35:10
  It is very dreadful. And and you know, if you're a
• 35:14
  if, if you're a new player, what does that tell you?
• 35:17
  This is like, what the hell is this?
• 35:20
  You know, did I just waste all my a week or however long it
• 35:23
  took them to figure all this out?
• 35:24
  Let's say they're brand new and you know, yeah, that's anyway we
• 35:29
  could take a. Week for someone to figure that
• 35:31
  out. But Yep, Yep, it's it's also
• 35:32
  like trying to go to Pyro and do the CZS for the first time.
• 35:36
  A new player's not gonna be able to figure that out.
• 35:39
  But let's, let's keep this going.
• 35:40
  Let's get another person up here.
• 35:43
  This guy, this guy's always got something to say.
• 35:48
  It's Skeeter. Skeeter.
• 35:49
  Welcome to Open Comms Radio. Thanks for having me back, I was
• 35:56
  a little skeptical after last week.
• 36:00
  What? No, no.
• 36:01
  No need to be skeptical. You just you just come on here.
• 36:03
  You know how the show goes. Every week we have a question.
• 36:06
  This week's question. Does CIG know what makes their
• 36:09
  game fun? I really want to believe but
• 36:14
  sometimes they have me questioning.
• 36:18
  I practiced that. Oh yeah, yeah, that's good.
• 36:23
  You're reading that all on the piece of paper.
• 36:24
  Yeah. I've you've done better than I.
• 36:26
  For him, yeah. And now you can.
• 36:29
  I do have more to say though. But seriously though, there, you
• 36:35
  know, I and I love the game and I said this before like you
• 36:37
  can't please all the people all the time.
• 36:39
  And so I, I hope when Sig listens to the show, which
• 36:43
  obviously they do, that they gather all of the opinions and
• 36:49
  do what they seem as best because there's, we even
• 36:52
  contradict ourselves. So I just want to preface that
• 36:55
  and off topic. I'm 87% sure Mr. 10 four PC is
• 37:01
  the Sig CIG plant. Like have we discussed?
• 37:04
  This at all? Like honestly with his
• 37:05
  questions. Like, think about it.
• 37:09
  Yeah. Anyways, with, you know, as far
• 37:13
  as being fun and not fun, I think the biggest fine line that
• 37:21
  CID is walking is what, you know, they're trying to make it
• 37:25
  like it's a video game, right? But it's also, they're trying to
• 37:28
  make it like a simulation. But some things are almost too
• 37:33
  immersive, too realistic to where it's not fun.
• 37:35
  Like you don't want it to be like real life, like you play
• 37:38
  video games and get away from real life.
• 37:40
  And I think if you're too much of A simulation it and too
• 37:45
  realistic, you can you can it can SAP the fun out of it.
• 37:49
  I think one example is when they first introduced death of the
• 37:52
  Spaceman and you just lost everything soon as you die.
• 37:55
  And it was just so demoralizing and you would just rage quit and
• 37:58
  everyone was just wearing their pharmacies because they're
• 38:01
  afraid of losing their cool gear and stuff.
• 38:04
  And they've kind of back totalled on that a little bit
• 38:06
  now. And I really like the way
• 38:07
  they've done it now where you you die and you spawn with all
• 38:10
  your stuff except for what you had in your inventory.
• 38:13
  Yeah, I know. And that's why I'm like bummed
• 38:15
  because like, yeah, I get it that it's more realistic that
• 38:18
  you lose all your stuff and there should be consequences.
• 38:20
  But like, you also don't want to just rage quit every time you
• 38:23
  die. You just lost all your cool
• 38:25
  stuff. So I think that's a fine line
• 38:28
  that they need to tread lightly on.
• 38:33
  And if you make it to like another another example is when
• 38:39
  you spawned in your city, like you had to go to the train and
• 38:42
  go to the spaceport and it would take 1520 minutes just to start
• 38:46
  playing the game. And while it was one of the good
• 38:48
  changes that they made is now you spawn in your hangar.
• 38:52
  And that's like huge, because now I can go on my shift and go
• 38:55
  start playing instantly. And I think that's honestly one
• 38:59
  of the biggest drawbacks of the game is sometimes it just takes
• 39:02
  so long to start doing anything that's actually fun.
• 39:10
  And hopefully an improved inventory will fix a lot of
• 39:12
  that. I mean, like, I'm one of those
• 39:14
  people. I like the idea of you lose the
• 39:16
  stuff that's on you when you die.
• 39:20
  I play a lot of other games where that's the case, but.
• 39:22
  Well, everyone hates those games.
• 39:24
  Just listen in those games. It's it's listen in those games.
• 39:31
  It's really easy to re equip, right?
• 39:33
  So that it, it takes away the sting.
• 39:35
  Like the the part that really sucked in Star Citizen was it
• 39:39
  was like, man, it would take me like 20 minutes just to drag all
• 39:42
  that stuff on me. Not that that was only if I had
• 39:44
  it in my inventory, not mentioning if I had to fly to
• 39:48
  like four or five different planets because for whatever
• 39:52
  reason, each planet can only carry like, you know, 1 variety
• 39:55
  of each armor piece or whatever. But if if you lose the stuff,
• 40:01
  fine. But as long as you can like
• 40:02
  press a button for a, a preset armor set up and it just all
• 40:07
  pops onto your onto your body, if you have it in the inventory,
• 40:09
  I think that'll help as well. This was a balance.
• 40:13
  But As for the realism, I mean, you're absolutely right.
• 40:15
  Yeah. Like, do you remember Skeeter?
• 40:18
  Were you around when? That's the realistic part, you
• 40:22
  know? Were you around Skeeter when
• 40:24
  elevators moved at realistic speeds?
• 40:27
  Yes. And is it weird that I like that
• 40:30
  and that? And that was something that
• 40:32
  Chris Rob was bragged about. I I like that.
• 40:37
  Don't imagine it gave. Me a like, it gave me like a
• 40:39
  minute or two to like, get my stuff together while I'm going
• 40:42
  to my hangar. But now I'm like that.
• 40:44
  You needed it. Yeah, exactly.
• 40:46
  Like in a commercial. You get up, you go get your
• 40:48
  drink, and you come back. Of course, now you can pause it.
• 40:51
  But you know, in the good old days.
• 40:55
  I tried to get friends into the game back then and it didn't
• 40:58
  work. I, I, I like that it's quick.
• 41:02
  I think it's too quick. If that's not weird to say, like
• 41:05
  I kind of liked that it took a little bit to get there.
• 41:08
  So maybe they can balance that. Way they are kind of
• 41:10
  suspiciously quick. Yeah.
• 41:14
  It's almost interesting. To be fair, but.
• 41:19
  Well I mean just think if you pulled those GS in your ship.
• 41:23
  Yeah, pass out. I think as we answered the
• 41:28
  question of the day, the the bigger question that's coming up
• 41:30
  is do do any of us know what fun is?
• 41:35
  Clearly, Duke doesn't. No, we clearly don't.
• 41:38
  Clearly Duke does not. I have no idea.
• 41:40
  I have no no clue. Well, I think this next person
• 41:44
  may know what fun is. I have.
• 41:46
  I have a good inkling, a good suspicion, that this next
• 41:50
  gentleman, Broccoli Rob, knows exactly what fun is.
• 41:54
  Broccoli Rob, welcome to open Coms radio.
• 41:57
  This week's question How does CIG know what makes their game
• 42:02
  fun? I think I would say yes, I do
• 42:11
  think that they know what makes their game fun.
• 42:15
  I think the problem is, is that they know what makes their game
• 42:18
  fun and it's not keeping up. Or rather the development isn't
• 42:24
  keeping up with the same pace. It's not like they got together
• 42:27
  for like a 930 stand up and we're like, all right, how can
• 42:30
  we effectively make sure that the elevator eats all the
• 42:33
  Wicklow stuff? Like they didn't decide that
• 42:37
  they they made something cool. They made something that they
• 42:42
  wanted to like put out there and let people engage in and have
• 42:46
  fun in. And then the alpha state just is
• 42:49
  not letting that happen. Yeah.
• 42:54
  Yeah, I think that's there's a lot of that.
• 42:55
  Another mechanic in use instead of an elevator that they know
• 42:59
  can brake all the time, they could have used a different
• 43:01
  mechanic to escalator. To.
• 43:03
  Sure they could, but I think, I don't think that's what I don't
• 43:07
  think that's related to them not knowing what fun is.
• 43:11
  I think that they made fun things that, and I think it's
• 43:15
  kind of a larger problem with CIG is that there's some things
• 43:19
  that are way far ahead and there's some things that are way
• 43:23
  far behind and those things happen.
• 43:24
  You're just saying. They don't know how to.
• 43:26
  Make and while that one behind, no, I'm not, I'm saying that a
• 43:32
  bunch of people are making a bunch of different things and
• 43:35
  that some people are trying to catch up.
• 43:37
  And in that meantime, those other people aren't going to
• 43:40
  stop and wait and not and get paid to do nothing.
• 43:43
  They're going to keep going and there's going to be some growing
• 43:46
  pains, you know? Yeah, put in, I agree with that.
• 43:49
  But. But when you're introducing.
• 43:52
  Mckenney, your folks and layoffs coming to the IG.
• 43:58
  It just seems kind of backwards. It's.
• 44:03
  Not yeah, but I mean, what? Like are they supposed to just?
• 44:06
  You know, so they kind of had to do.
• 44:09
  Something backwards. Yeah, it's active development.
• 44:11
  They can't just sit there and be like, all right, cool, we have
• 44:14
  all this cool stuff that we want to like different parts we want
• 44:16
  to test, but we have to wait until someone finds a good way
• 44:19
  to send stuff down something different.
• 44:23
  So in the meantime, we're just going to sit here and.
• 44:27
  Well, they're not opposed to using other placeholder things
• 44:29
  for for different aspects of the game.
• 44:31
  Why not have a different placeholder for, you know, to to
• 44:36
  bypass a mechanic that they know is actively being reimagined,
• 44:41
  reworked. I mean, that's all part of the
• 44:43
  transit system that we're supposed to get some point this
• 44:45
  year. And you know, this is a well
• 44:47
  known fact that this is busted and why they're, you know,
• 44:50
  supposedly putting so much effort into fixing the
• 44:53
  transition, which includes these cargo elevators.
• 44:57
  So in the meantime, just put a placeholder in place to
• 45:01
  something simple that doesn't take a lot.
• 45:04
  Of elevator doesn't. Take a lot of well, the
• 45:06
  elevator's broken. Not totally broken, it's a lot
• 45:11
  better than it used to be. Yeah, it works.
• 45:14
  And I mean, at the end of the day, we're testing it to make
• 45:18
  sure that it works right. It doesn't.
• 45:21
  So it's the reality of the situation.
• 45:23
  Yeah, I lost 1 box in an elevator this patch cycle so.
• 45:29
  But most of the time it works but I.
• 45:30
  Haven't lost anything in ages. That time it.
• 45:33
  I mean, I could care less if the elevator works or not until the
• 45:35
  game releases. I'm just trying to make a point.
• 45:37
  I wanted to work. I'm just trying to make a point
• 45:40
  that if you're going to make something that that you're
• 45:44
  touting as a new feature and you're touting it as new fun
• 45:47
  gameplay and you're touting it as a new mission parameter.
• 45:51
  And this new paradigm shift of we've got this great new mission
• 45:55
  to help with, you know, the Molina mold and all this other
• 45:57
  crap. And the one thing you're
• 46:00
  depending on is a something that you know is broken.
• 46:03
  Couldn't there have been a different way to turning?
• 46:06
  It's not always broken that's the problem.
• 46:08
  So. Yeah, that's.
• 46:10
  Not always broken the problems because I just want to say more
• 46:13
  things. Rocky Rob, I want to say one
• 46:17
  more thing if you have to take off.
• 46:18
  So I want to say one more thing for a take off.
• 46:20
  If everything worked fine, would it be fun?
• 46:24
  Yeah, it'd be more fun for me. OK, so OK, so looks like they
• 46:30
  know what fun is, they just need to fix some of the problems.
• 46:33
  But ultimately the game is fun. They just need to fix some of
• 46:38
  the stuff that's in alpha. So yeah.
• 46:40
  That's a good point, the. That's all I got.
• 46:41
  I'm going to take off. Have a good one guess.
• 46:43
  Good night, Brock. And.
• 46:46
  Rob, I mean, to his point, that's, that's true what
• 46:48
  Broccoli said, You know, you know, at the end of the day,
• 46:51
  they're they're trying to fix this.
• 46:52
  The the point I'm trying to make is that, you know, as, as Hobo
• 46:57
  just said, well, it works some of the times and then it worked.
• 47:00
  It doesn't work other times. In other words, it's an
• 47:03
  inherently flawed system that everybody knows is flawed.
• 47:06
  That that is not the definition of an inherently flawed system.
• 47:12
  For me it is. Historically flawed system.
• 47:16
  With that. It's a flawed.
• 47:18
  If it doesn't work all the time, that's inherently flawed.
• 47:24
  So if it works all the time, it's inherently.
• 47:27
  Not flawed. In inherently flawed would mean
• 47:31
  that it is. Designed to be flawed.
• 47:33
  True. It's it's not perfect, right?
• 47:36
  I mean, they're trying to do a lot.
• 47:38
  No, I mean it's. Like, you know, with the car in.
• 47:43
  That state it is a car. Is going to break down
• 47:45
  eventually. It it it's your car relies.
• 47:48
  On real world physics and it's going to degrade.
• 47:52
  Yeah, but but in in importance that you are correct in this one
• 47:55
  he OK. OK, forget it, Conversations.
• 48:00
  Look, I should have moderated. That oh, there's entropy of.
• 48:02
  Course he's not gonna work. We we have a a new Ask the Couch
• 48:07
  from a new viewer. We.
• 48:10
  Have an ask. The couch Hallinger.
• 48:14
  You ask the couch. Oh, you.
• 48:16
  Want to read it, Duke? Sure, I'll read it.
• 48:20
  I'll read it from Halengar. With inventory and crafting
• 48:25
  planned for 4.7. Do you find yourselves playing
• 48:29
  less Star Citizen and more of other games while we wait for
• 48:34
  while we wait? Or has the A a event given
• 48:37
  enough reason to continue playing and let's open this up.
• 48:44
  Yeah, let's ask theater or really short first Pluto.
• 48:47
  We haven't heard from them in a while.
• 48:48
  Yeah. No, not not you Jar Jar.
• 48:49
  No, me first, me first, me first, crafting 4 point. 7.
• 48:55
  Look, once I finished a AI haven't gone back in, I got the
• 48:59
  fabricator. Like sober now.
• 49:02
  There there's no, there's no in law reason.
• 49:05
  Right. There's no in law reason to to
• 49:09
  do stuff you know. Well, those people are still
• 49:11
  dying so. Nah, they're not, though.
• 49:13
  They're not. It's.
• 49:15
  Whatever it's, it's going. To be whatever.
• 49:16
  It's going to be they still need your help.
• 49:18
  You're like, you're like, thanks for the cool, thanks for the
• 49:21
  cool stuff. See you later.
• 49:23
  Yeah you're you're condemning them to a a life of suffering
• 49:27
  than regenning just down the hall.
• 49:29
  Well, I. I these are, I've never seen
• 49:30
  these people. They're faceless to.
• 49:31
  Me but Skeeter with inventory on the way and crafting.
• 49:36
  Are you playing less Star Citizen while you wait or are
• 49:40
  you still playing? So I wouldn't rule, I wouldn't
• 49:44
  narrow it down to those two things.
• 49:46
  But I will say I do tend I have been playing less Star Citizen,
• 49:51
  but that's it's more because it just it takes again to my
• 49:55
  previous comment, it takes so long to do anything to get
• 49:57
  started doing anything like, you know, you know, it's like
• 50:00
  tonight, it's a school night, you know, I got like an hour or
• 50:03
  so to do something and but it it takes almost an hour just to
• 50:06
  start doing something and start a citizen.
• 50:08
  So I I would find myself playing, you know, I'm a big
• 50:11
  Overwatch guy. I play yeah, I can easily jump
• 50:14
  into Overwatch, have instant fun and play for an hour or so and
• 50:19
  lots of action. I get that you could do that in
• 50:21
  Arena Commander, but I stuck at Arena commander.
• 50:25
  So I do something I like to do something that I'm good at and
• 50:30
  but again, not specific to those, you know, inventory and
• 50:34
  crafting, but again, just because it takes a long time to
• 50:38
  dart anything all. Right.
• 50:43
  Well, it was sad to see Skeeter harpoon his credibility there
• 50:47
  with Overwatch, but. Overwatch is so good.
• 50:52
  Where's Murphy? I need Murphy.
• 50:54
  Murphy and Weiner. Dot not allowed.
• 50:58
  Back I will say. There's an Overwatch.
• 51:01
  Opencom show but the the latest update to ever watch sucks and I
• 51:06
  hate it so we we can save that for the Overwatch opencoms OK
• 51:10
  right? I played Overwatch.
• 51:13
  Was that a new phone and it? Was just not.
• 51:16
  I was just not having it. Pluto.
• 51:19
  It's a lot. Pluto, what you got to say about
• 51:21
  this with inventory and crafting plan for 4.7?
• 51:24
  Do you find yourself playing less Star Citizen and more other
• 51:28
  games while you wait, or has the A a event given you enough
• 51:31
  reason to continue playing? This happens to every game on
• 51:37
  every update, but typically, like the first week, like, so
• 51:43
  whenever you the PTU starts getting finalized, that's when I
• 51:47
  stopped playing live because I want to play with the new stuff
• 51:49
  and I want to go play with the current game.
• 51:52
  Who wants to do that? This actually applies to all
• 51:57
  kinds of other games of the new things coming out next week.
• 52:01
  Why? Why bother playing now?
• 52:02
  You shouldn't have told me about the new thing.
• 52:04
  Yeah. I get that.
• 52:07
  Happens across all titles. That's the trap we're trying to
• 52:10
  avoid, I think, right? I think it used to be more
• 52:15
  pronounced with Star Citizen. I think when, when we were
• 52:18
  getting a lot more like big content updates, I mean not
• 52:23
  content feature, like when there was a huge feature, you know,
• 52:27
  coming on the horizon, that's when I would stop.
• 52:31
  Yeah, you've also got the server degradation whenever live
• 52:34
  updates are imminent. That's true.
• 52:37
  I feel like there's a certain amount of manual work that goes
• 52:40
  on to keep the live services up and running.
• 52:43
  Whenever they swap to checking in with the PTU, the live
• 52:47
  environment starts to suffer. Always.
• 52:50
  And that makes you not want to play as as much either, no?
• 52:56
  Curious. Curious.
• 52:58
  Oh Randy ho, Lord Nubis, you're not playing much hobo.
• 53:02
  You're constantly in those seasons, man Every.
• 53:06
  Night. Wow, thanks for skipping me.
• 53:09
  Appreciate that. You can go, you can go.
• 53:15
  How's how's it been playing in the game lately?
• 53:19
  I've jumped in a couple times and nothing's really that much
• 53:23
  different. Look, you know, I I don't think
• 53:27
  that people holding off are holding off for the next patch
• 53:32
  because we have one of these incremental patches almost every
• 53:37
  single month. And realistically, the
• 53:41
  playability of the game lies in what it already has rather than
• 53:45
  what the next thing is going to be.
• 53:46
  So I don't really think it really effects things, not like
• 53:49
  it did back in, you know, the three-point whatever days.
• 53:56
  Those are the good old days, Yeah, if you listen back to us
• 54:01
  where it's like 3.140, the good old days, you know?
• 54:07
  Bring, bring back tractor beams inside the stations.
• 54:12
  Yeah, yeah. I just want my old mining.
• 54:16
  They ruined mining. I'm still bitter about it.
• 54:19
  We could do a whole episode about things to bring back
• 54:22
  where. Old *.
• 54:24
  I'll pull video. Yeah, that's the only place you
• 54:27
  can get around with only stairs. There's no elevators.
• 54:30
  It's amazing. Yeah.
• 54:34
  What was the big change in mining that you miss?
• 54:38
  Also Duke I was a pro miner and I was just about to like make an
• 54:43
  all inclusive like mining tutorial and they changed
• 54:47
  everything. Like I grinded for months doing
• 54:50
  nothing but mining and bought an 890 jump from scratch, like
• 54:54
  doing nothing but mining. And I could tell you anything
• 54:57
  and everything you want to know about mining and they ruined it
• 55:00
  like I could. And I know this is like a point,
• 55:03
  like one of the reasons they did change it, but there was not a
• 55:06
  rock I couldn't crack with a prospector, but I loved it
• 55:09
  because it actually took some skill.
• 55:11
  It didn't. They're like, yeah, you need a
• 55:13
  certain laser you need in certain modules, but actually
• 55:16
  took skill to like crack a huge rock with a prospector.
• 55:20
  Like you had to time your your modules just right and you had
• 55:24
  to really finesse your strength. But then they made it to where
• 55:30
  like you had the most of the rocks you found weren't mineable
• 55:35
  with the prospector because they were trying to increase group
• 55:37
  gameplay. The you had to have a mole.
• 55:40
  They added penalties for using like multiple ships to crack a
• 55:44
  rock. And then they added these
• 55:46
  gadgets that I don't even know if they work yet, but you were
• 55:50
  supposed to need these gadgets to crack the really tough rocks.
• 55:54
  And it was it, they just, it was completely different and a
• 55:58
  completely different skill set than what it was prior to that.
• 56:02
  I'm trying to remember when they did that.
• 56:03
  I think that may have been like 314 or somewhere around there.
• 56:07
  But I, I was huge into mining and I just feel like they've
• 56:11
  ruined it. And I was sad, very sad.
• 56:16
  I think those gadgets supposedly.
• 56:17
  Still work. They did some.
• 56:21
  Work and they overtuned. For a while they were super
• 56:23
  overtuned. Like you could put a bunch of
• 56:24
  them on a giant rock and use your pyro multi tool to crack
• 56:27
  stuff that a mole couldn't even crack.
• 56:32
  I just feel like I didn't. Have a skill in it.
• 56:33
  Anymore I saw this one group, they stuck 8 gadgets onto a rock
• 56:40
  and just the gadgets broke the rock on their own.
• 56:45
  They did not work when they first came out and I was just, I
• 56:48
  couldn't figure it out either and I was annoyed.
• 56:52
  Why? I think they use them to crack
• 56:55
  like impossible rocks. I've seen like prospectors use
• 56:59
  it to crack rocks that are like, they shouldn't be able to crack.
• 57:03
  So I think some of those gadgets work.
• 57:04
  But yeah, Wicket, what's up? So how's Ashes working for you?
• 57:17
  That gay man. Wow, this poor guy.
• 57:19
  Now it's just the fun of watching all the drama and all
• 57:24
  the corruption come to light and all the watching all the fallout
• 57:29
  in the lawsuits that'll keep us entertained for months, if not
• 57:32
  years. See, you get your money.
• 57:34
  By the way, I've tried five times to get a refund from
• 57:37
  Steam. They've denied me every time.
• 57:41
  I've tried all the tricks too. But I mean, I did spend 600
• 57:45
  hours or three, 300. 600 hours. Something like that.
• 57:48
  I can see why they would turn that one down.
• 57:51
  I, I I'm, I'm curious. You got your money?
• 57:54
  Yeah, but I had. Friends that had just as many
• 57:56
  hours played, they got a refund. They just did it earlier than I
• 57:59
  did. I'm curious.
• 58:02
  It's fine. Just how much the ratio of time
• 58:09
  invested from wicket before a game eventually collapses.
• 58:15
  I I would think it's proportionate to the size of the
• 58:17
  current project, yeah. Yeah, just.
• 58:22
  Maybe that's why we don't have like org tools and stuff 'cause
• 58:26
  you know, we, it's just like creeping up, you know, the like.
• 58:30
  Parts of their. Companies being eaten away.
• 58:34
  They're spending all their time making fire extinguisher
• 58:36
  jetpacks because of this. The Tim the Tim four PC question
• 58:40
  about what upcoming tools I don't I don't know how well this
• 58:44
  would go over, but coming back from things that they could
• 58:51
  really adopt from things like Eve not having a local, not
• 58:58
  having a a a global comms channel.
• 59:01
  You can only you only have comms channel in the system you were
• 59:07
  in. You can only talk like if you're
• 59:10
  in Stanton. You can only see the people in
• 59:11
  Stanton and only if they spoke, and if they didn't speak you
• 59:17
  wouldn't know that they were there or not.
• 59:20
  Of course, that would be dependent upon on having other
• 59:23
  tools to communicate in game and also having some kind of working
• 59:28
  scanning system where you could try to locate people if you're
• 59:32
  out like hunting for them. Because let's be honest, the the
• 59:35
  current PvP bounty hunting mechanic where you just get a
• 59:40
  marker for somebody and you can just go to them.
• 59:43
  I think that's that's terrible. Too easy I.
• 59:47
  Think you should have to work to find them.
• 59:49
  See, some things are too hard and some things are too easy.
• 59:52
  That's what we're. Saying, yeah, of course.
• 59:54
  I mean, that's the the balance and and and then also to harken
• 59:58
  back on the fun question. Where I think CIG sometimes has
• 1:00:04
  a real winner on their hands is that they give you enough tools
• 1:00:08
  to create your own fun. Then other times they seemingly
• 1:00:14
  make the tools that impede you from having your fun, if that
• 1:00:18
  makes sense. Which makes.
• 1:00:19
  A lot of sense. Broccoli Rod's back with us
• 1:00:23
  back. With us, Yeah, sorry about that.
• 1:00:25
  I had something come up at the exact moment I got pulled into
• 1:00:28
  here so I had to and duck out quick but I'm back.
• 1:00:32
  Took care of business. TCLB Baby.
• 1:00:35
  Not a boy. Not a boy.
• 1:00:37
  Brock and Rob, we're talking about what makes Star Citizen
• 1:00:40
  fun. Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  And I feel like you and and Hobo spend a lot of time in those C
• 1:00:45
  ZS, running around shooting at guys, going in, getting the red
• 1:00:50
  cards. You're what?
• 1:00:51
  You're always talking about getting the red cards in in
• 1:00:54
  chat. What's What's so?
• 1:00:56
  Much need the red cards. We we get more than just red
• 1:00:59
  cards. Fair, but.
• 1:01:03
  So there's blue cards. I think my main thing is that
• 1:01:08
  before I was thinking about this earlier, before Wickelow, what
• 1:01:13
  did every goal, what did you receive For every goal you set
• 1:01:20
  out to do, be it mining, salvage, combat, it's any
• 1:01:25
  mission that you did. It was all money all the time,
• 1:01:29
  nothing else. And even with Wikilo, it's it's
• 1:01:33
  still but for more money, like the.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, but Rep was just money. There's no goal.
• 1:01:41
  It's grind ship or grind missions for money to get more
• 1:01:46
  missions for more money. It just wasn't.
• 1:01:49
  There's a lot of, there's a lot of different things that you can
• 1:01:53
  do in this game, but you get the same award, rule award for
• 1:01:58
  everything. But contested zones are one of
• 1:02:00
  the only things that aren't just for money.
• 1:02:04
  In fact, there's no money involved.
• 1:02:07
  It's a money sink for the most part, and that's it's honestly
• 1:02:12
  when it's like you're doing something that is loosely
• 1:02:19
  defined, like there's no hand holding.
• 1:02:21
  I know Judger apparently doesn't like that fact.
• 1:02:26
  But there's no hands holding hands.
• 1:02:28
  I just just. Just to like get there and
• 1:02:30
  start. You know I will hold your hands
• 1:02:32
  to go through. I'll hold your hand the whole
• 1:02:35
  way. Got it.
• 1:02:37
  It's all right. I can help you as long as.
• 1:02:40
  We do it together. We'll do it together.
• 1:02:42
  I'll sanitize my. Hands you do that on.
• 1:02:44
  There too, and we'll hold our hands.
• 1:02:47
  We'll go in, we'll get through it.
• 1:02:49
  We can get through it. But that's the thing I like
• 1:02:52
  about it is there's no, you have to mostly learn it word of
• 1:02:57
  mouth, which I think is CI, GS intent.
• 1:03:00
  And I honestly like that so much more than any of the other
• 1:03:03
  sandbox activities they've done. Because all the.
• 1:03:06
  Other sandbox stuff has been here's 5 videos on it and we're
• 1:03:11
  going to hype it up for the next month or two and tell you we're
• 1:03:16
  not going to tell you everything, but they tell you
• 1:03:18
  everything like they they say they're not going to they do
• 1:03:22
  like the way the marketing works is still the same in the sense
• 1:03:25
  that they want to hype up this new area, this new thing and
• 1:03:29
  they'll spoil it all anyway with C ZS not so much.
• 1:03:33
  They never had a video on them. They just sort of like, Oh yeah,
• 1:03:36
  this is an area at school. You're going to be as like PvP
• 1:03:39
  and it's going to be in PCs in there and they'll be shooting at
• 1:03:42
  you and you got to find like cards or something.
• 1:03:44
  And if you make it all the way to the end, you might get a ship
• 1:03:48
  and it's going to be really cool.
• 1:03:49
  Look at these designs and they had a real fun time making.
• 1:03:54
  Hobo they can't just disappear. It'd be cool to have something
• 1:04:02
  like that for every system with a different flavor attached to
• 1:04:04
  it. That's exactly.
• 1:04:05
  What I want? That's exactly what it.
• 1:04:09
  That's good, but there will be too many of them.
• 1:04:11
  I can definitely see with there'd be 3 stamped in three or
• 1:04:16
  you could break into a crusader facility that's housing a
• 1:04:18
  prototype ship or something. But then if you have too many,
• 1:04:23
  they're not, they don't. They don't get contested if
• 1:04:27
  there's too many exactly too spread then.
• 1:04:31
  Well, I think from the name. Underly in the name.
• 1:04:35
  Hobo, correct me wrong, but I think you're talking like a like
• 1:04:38
  a closed loop sort of system, like what we're getting in
• 1:04:42
  Levski. Like sort of like a like there's
• 1:04:45
  Contessa as a pyro, There's going to be these, the depths in
• 1:04:49
  Levski. Like if everything had its own
• 1:04:52
  closed loops like Hathor and the worm.
• 1:04:54
  It's like you do these, you get cool stuff and then you got to
• 1:04:56
  go to Wicklow. Like there's there's none of
• 1:04:58
  that. Everything in the contested zone
• 1:05:01
  is a closed loop. Everything happens there and
• 1:05:04
  ends there. Well, I mean, you're, I wouldn't
• 1:05:07
  say it ends there because you're gathering these resources to go
• 1:05:10
  to the executive hangar like that's, that's the end goal,
• 1:05:14
  right. Sorry, yeah I meant I meant the
• 1:05:16
  contested zone loop it. Starts and ends.
• 1:05:19
  That whole loop. Just with the yeah, like there's
• 1:05:22
  no go to Wicklow to get your ship.
• 1:05:26
  It doesn't all have to be PvP like it, it just has to be that
• 1:05:30
  experience where it's the dungeon experience essentially.
• 1:05:34
  Like I know the pirate 1's a little janky and a little
• 1:05:37
  open-ended and there's bugs and there's blah blah blah.
• 1:05:40
  And it's I know some people hate the PvP side of it.
• 1:05:44
  Fine, whatever we can have that. We cannot have that.
• 1:05:48
  I don't care. It can have both, it can have
• 1:05:50
  one or the other, but it needs to be that that that dungeon
• 1:05:55
  experience. And I, I love the C ZS that that
• 1:06:01
  whole loop. I know last week I said I didn't
• 1:06:03
  do loops, but you know, just being a silly little guy, I do
• 1:06:06
  do loops Doo Doo. And I really I, I think the CZ
• 1:06:12
  loop executive hanger loop is like single grace thing.
• 1:06:15
  He had he's introduced to the game in a very long time.
• 1:06:18
  Like last year was huge as far as content and I think that was
• 1:06:21
  the biggest thing and it is a lot of fun and I it does
• 1:06:25
  encourage the group gameplay and that's when I think it's things
• 1:06:28
  are the most fun. But to Broccoli's point, like
• 1:06:31
  there's a, there's a prize at the end that's other than that's
• 1:06:35
  not money and there's a lot of risk and the reward is very
• 1:06:41
  high. So I love it.
• 1:06:43
  I think it's great, yes. Me too.
• 1:06:48
  Yeah, like if I don't know, the worm had instead of giving you
• 1:06:53
  like they're like, oh cool, I got these giant teeth and these
• 1:06:56
  pearls. What am I supposed to do with
• 1:06:58
  them? If instead while you were there
• 1:07:01
  or like somewhere nearby, you turn them in the same way you
• 1:07:04
  turn on the exec cards and then you got something like something
• 1:07:08
  I know like a blue like down the road, like a blueprint for a
• 1:07:12
  cool set of armor, like something like that.
• 1:07:15
  And it was like 1 blueprint just like you can only get one ship.
• 1:07:19
  I think that's where they kind of miss the mark on a lot of
• 1:07:22
  these sandbox activities give. Me, give me, give me that.
• 1:07:27
  The tournament's Gray, all right.
• 1:07:28
  So you want to be able to turn things in and piece meal as you
• 1:07:33
  get them. No, no, no.
• 1:07:36
  What I was what I was kind of saying like I want the I want
• 1:07:39
  the executive hanger equivalent for the worm and for Hathor.
• 1:07:44
  Like I want I want the loop to close there and not the loop to
• 1:07:48
  close at Wiccolo. I agree 100%.
• 1:07:53
  I want. You're talking.
• 1:07:55
  Instant gratification. Like some sort of vendor that
• 1:07:58
  only takes things from a local currency like Vala Carpang which
• 1:08:02
  is the. No, no, the the opposite.
• 1:08:06
  The not, not Wicklow. I I want, I don't want Wicklow.
• 1:08:09
  I want something to to close the loop there and not have like a
• 1:08:17
  bunch of different sandbox activities all gravitate towards
• 1:08:21
  this one thing to get like all of the rewards there.
• 1:08:27
  Like the Wicklow to the Side quest.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah, or like like it would be like if you had to take all 7
• 1:08:35
  copports to Wicklow to get your executive ship.
• 1:08:38
  Like imagine if instead of doing that we had the executive
• 1:08:44
  hangers which we do and then apply that to every other
• 1:08:47
  sandbox activity. You killed the worm.
• 1:08:51
  You get a sample from the worm. You walk over to a station.
• 1:08:54
  You unlock a special Atlas immediately.
• 1:08:57
  Something like that. But you could still incorporate
• 1:09:01
  with. You could still incorporate with
• 1:09:04
  by having side like I, I use the word side class or term side
• 1:09:07
  class. But like you could have things
• 1:09:09
  that you can only get in the worm loop that to use for a
• 1:09:13
  Wicklow ship. But but to Brock, to Rob's
• 1:09:16
  point, that's not the end goal of the Worm loop.
• 1:09:19
  Are you being? Are you being bought by the
• 1:09:22
  Wicklow nonprofit? I, I like the idea of, I like
• 1:09:28
  Wicklow. I like the idea of Wicklow where
• 1:09:30
  you can earn ships with something other than money.
• 1:09:33
  Obviously, all right. Now that's not the case because
• 1:09:35
  everyone's just buying stuff to get the Wicklow ships, which
• 1:09:37
  annoys me, but that's not the intended point of Wicklow.
• 1:09:41
  I obviously that's an economy problem.
• 1:09:44
  We could talk about that, make a whole show out of that, but
• 1:09:46
  that's like, it's another way to get ships without having to
• 1:09:50
  spend credits. So, so one of the things you
• 1:09:54
  could do in the greatest MMO of all time, Star Wars Galaxy, you
• 1:10:00
  would, you know, gather materials for different things.
• 1:10:04
  So you could have like high end materials for crafters that need
• 1:10:07
  to make high end, you know, stuff that they'll charge a lot
• 1:10:11
  for their super high end armor that they grind away like an
• 1:10:16
  entire career to make. And along the way, they're
• 1:10:20
  paying people for these materials and the people are
• 1:10:23
  getting their good weapons that decay over time.
• 1:10:26
  And then you have like medicine makers who need to grab, you
• 1:10:32
  know, let's say, you know, Valic are things something like that.
• 1:10:35
  You know, they need those to grind up their specific
• 1:10:38
  profession. And the higher the quality, the
• 1:10:43
  better their results, the better the EO, things like that.
• 1:10:47
  So I think you can you know that that would close some of those
• 1:10:50
  loops like you're talking about. Yeah sure, yeah I'd like turning
• 1:10:55
  it into players instead of giving it to some Ceto scum.
• 1:11:01
  Wow. Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  And I think kind of to that like say like once crafting comes in,
• 1:11:07
  I think it's going to be a whole new ball game and like
• 1:11:10
  blueprints and all that say. And it was like, you have AI
• 1:11:13
  know that you have a blueprint for a gun that I lost recently.
• 1:11:18
  I'm like, OK, I'm going to hit you up.
• 1:11:19
  And you're like, yeah, totally. I just need to find XY and Z or
• 1:11:24
  like, OK, hold on. I think I got a guy hit Pluto
• 1:11:27
  up. Be like, hey, Pluto, do you have
• 1:11:29
  this on hand or nowhere to get it?
• 1:11:31
  You get it, get it to me. Of course I get it to Anubis.
• 1:11:34
  Everyone gets money. Everyone gets, you know that.
• 1:11:40
  I don't know, happiness Spike. It's 5 bucks.
• 1:11:44
  Thanks. It's called Ziz.
• 1:11:45
  It feels like an actual profession.
• 1:11:47
  It it feels like you're part of a community.
• 1:11:51
  Now only if you can tell who the hell is standing 3 feet in front
• 1:11:55
  of you. It would it would make it.
• 1:11:58
  Back to my point, God, yeah. Fuck yeah, dude.
• 1:12:02
  Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.
• 1:12:04
  You're absolutely right. I need to know who I'm killing.
• 1:12:06
  Social tools or org tools? Yeah, identify.
• 1:12:11
  But let's, let's, let's give them their flowers, OK, Fire
• 1:12:16
  extinguisher, jet packs. Big success.
• 1:12:19
  Very huge. Yep, Huge.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah. Lamp night vision.
• 1:12:25
  I love lamp. Also huge.
• 1:12:27
  We have not talked about that. But come on, come on.
• 1:12:31
  Need it on more ships please. Now it feels like low hanging
• 1:12:33
  fruit but thank you for it. Needs to get all the ships CZ's
• 1:12:39
  Sure, sure we can include them. Parachutes.
• 1:12:43
  No parachutes. Yet no, we haven't.
• 1:12:46
  We don't have. I just.
• 1:12:47
  Picked a card by the address. Right.
• 1:12:51
  Yeah, a lot of big ships, a lot of maybe controversial ships.
• 1:12:56
  Newer ship is the Moth. Which people are complaining?
• 1:13:01
  About the name. I'm.
• 1:13:02
  OK, with the name it's fine. It's not the name.
• 1:13:05
  Yeah, the. Name's not the problem right
• 1:13:07
  now, yeah. It's a little bit of the
• 1:13:08
  problem, no? That ship, that ship.
• 1:13:12
  OK, If you have a person in the copilot's seat, you cannot fly
• 1:13:17
  the ship and you need someone in the copilot's seat to fire
• 1:13:22
  missiles. And the, the actual salvaging
• 1:13:28
  lasers are like 1% of their, you know, proper yield.
• 1:13:34
  So it, you know, you got a full crew and you can barely scrape,
• 1:13:37
  you know, crap, you know, you can chunk stuff up, but you
• 1:13:41
  really can't take anything off of it.
• 1:13:43
  It's, it's a mess right now. There are, there are multiple
• 1:13:48
  bugs where that chip is just basically unusable.
• 1:13:50
  And you know, random was talking about this last night.
• 1:13:53
  He was pretty upset because he spent $300 on it.
• 1:13:57
  And you know what? I can see that.
• 1:14:00
  Well, you know, hey, you know, when you believe in something
• 1:14:03
  and you're sold a, you're sold a thing and you know, and you go,
• 1:14:06
  OK, well, you know, let me give them $300 and you find out you
• 1:14:09
  can't even use the thing. You, my mom?
• 1:14:12
  How high? How high can your expectations
• 1:14:14
  be with a name like that? It sounds like at this point,
• 1:14:17
  boring, ugly ship. Sorry.
• 1:14:20
  Go ahead. Well, beside that, yeah.
• 1:14:23
  No, but at this point, I expect the ships to work if you buy
• 1:14:26
  them. They have had, Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  How many 100, you know, come out?
• 1:14:30
  Like they know when it's done. They know if it's not done, you
• 1:14:34
  know, So they're like, we're not going to release concepts
• 1:14:37
  anymore, so we're just going to release broken ships.
• 1:14:40
  It's like, OK, well, you may as well have just released a
• 1:14:44
  concept. Yeah.
• 1:14:46
  And, and the fact that it's basically just the mole.
• 1:14:51
  Yeah, yeah. And you can't actually store the
• 1:14:57
  full amount of inventory on there.
• 1:15:00
  And I mean it, it, it's, it's just, it's just a huge it, it's,
• 1:15:05
  it's well, and they're waiting for the next patch.
• 1:15:09
  To fix it, Yeah, well, like they do.
• 1:15:11
  Next patch they released and it's just like.
• 1:15:13
  You know, it's like, OK, you should.
• 1:15:15
  Come on. I mean they I mean they should
• 1:15:18
  have just called it a pre-order in that case.
• 1:15:20
  Yeah, you know this will. Come out in 4, Get up to speed.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you on that.
• 1:15:26
  That's not fun. Yeah.
• 1:15:29
  No new ships announced on the horizon, huh?
• 1:15:33
  Nothing upcoming. Nothing for us to look forward
• 1:15:35
  to. Surprises, no.
• 1:15:37
  There's plenty of things to look forward to.
• 1:15:39
  They need to deliver the ships already talked about.
• 1:15:42
  Well, in terms of well, yeah, but nothing's on the road map.
• 1:15:45
  Right, release the cracking. I just want the cracking, let's
• 1:15:48
  be honest. Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  I don't. I don't have one.
• 1:15:51
  That's not common suspicions. About the next.
• 1:15:56
  Ships but what do you think we're going to release a release
• 1:16:01
  a Mustang variant called the called called the Clydesdale and
• 1:16:07
  then and then an Andromeda Arian called the Trianguli and.
• 1:16:14
  Now you're reaching. I think he's on.
• 1:16:17
  I think he's on target. Yeah.
• 1:16:20
  What do you what do? You tell me version of the
• 1:16:22
  Orastra. Orastra.
• 1:16:28
  Yeah, the R, the big RSI mining ship, you have the the salvage
• 1:16:33
  version of that. It'd be something to compete
• 1:16:36
  with the Reclaimer. Oh, a salvage version of that.
• 1:16:38
  Why can't I just take like salvage lasers and put them on
• 1:16:41
  my Orastra and swap the bags? Cuz metal isn't rock, silly.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, but I'm, I'm just collecting it.
• 1:16:51
  Where's it go? Goes in a bag.
• 1:16:53
  I don't think I don't think the Arastra has saddle bags.
• 1:16:56
  It just dumps it right into a refinery.
• 1:16:58
  It's got no reason to not. That would make even more sense
• 1:17:02
  for it to be a solid variant, sort of have one.
• 1:17:07
  Yeah. But as I was saying, I would
• 1:17:09
  probably assume that one of the next ships we're getting is the
• 1:17:12
  whole bee, which is a conceptship.
• 1:17:15
  Yeah. Oh, that's very cool.
• 1:17:18
  The whole beast. I checked the whole.
• 1:17:20
  B. The.
• 1:17:22
  Whole. B until B as in boy.
• 1:17:26
  Bravo. Or bravo.
• 1:17:29
  Or banana. Buccaneer bad.
• 1:17:34
  Booty. Butt delicious, but don't.
• 1:17:38
  Go. What are we talking about?
• 1:17:41
  What? Ships talking about ships
• 1:17:43
  talking about the new spaceships coming out in Star Citizen.
• 1:17:46
  No flying. Oh yeah.
• 1:17:47
  Definitely not about butts. No, sorry about land ships.
• 1:17:52
  The forge. Do we think that's going to come
• 1:17:53
  soon? No, not for a while.
• 1:17:55
  That needs crafting and the vampire leg thing.
• 1:18:00
  It's landing gear. If I was under the impression
• 1:18:03
  crafting is right around the corner.
• 1:18:05
  Yeah, but the Can you imagine? They get the resource nodes in
• 1:18:09
  the ground working yet? No.
• 1:18:11
  We can already. Drilling as well.
• 1:18:15
  Yeah, crafting. Crafting will get an MDC variant
• 1:18:19
  for crafting. We know that's coming at some
• 1:18:22
  point. I like crafting as it is now I
• 1:18:27
  can make all kinds of guns. What do you what does wicked
• 1:18:32
  call it? Wicked or wicked calls it
• 1:18:34
  crafting .5 which I love. Y'all shamed me for it or charge
• 1:18:41
  I shamed me for it but. Sorry, I gotta get, I gotta get
• 1:18:44
  better at not shaming people, you know?
• 1:18:48
  Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna
• 1:18:50
  happen. And Duke's gotta get better at
• 1:18:53
  video games. He's doing his best.
• 1:18:57
  Duke's always, we're always fighting.
• 1:18:58
  People to Duke just. Runs forward.
• 1:19:01
  Just runs right into the. I'm sorry.
• 1:19:03
  He had a bunch of fuels in the CZI.
• 1:19:04
  Was going to say yeah he was handling.
• 1:19:06
  Things last night I gotta get better shape I'm.
• 1:19:09
  George. George is just jealous, that's
• 1:19:12
  all. I am, I am.
• 1:19:15
  I'm jealous, I'm jealous and I'm.
• 1:19:18
  I'm ready to close the tent. I'm ready to clean the couch.
• 1:19:22
  I'm ready to wipe it up. I'm ready to go on vacation.
• 1:19:28
  I'm going to be gone. For next.
• 1:19:31
  Yep, I can't tell you I can, but I won't.
• 1:19:33
  But I'm going to be gone for the next two weeks.
• 1:19:37
  And so I've left in charge of the show into the loving hands
• 1:19:43
  of Duke and Cosmic Hobo. Oh wow, who have offered to host
• 1:19:48
  the show for the next two weeks? So while I'm gone, if you would
• 1:19:54
  all please. It'll be an honor.
• 1:19:55
  Be good to your your babysitters.
• 1:19:58
  There's money. Oh hell no.
• 1:20:00
  This is like substitute time and.
• 1:20:04
  Oh man, I could go for a picture right now.
• 1:20:06
  If you thought last week was bad.
• 1:20:09
  Todd, no, you'll you're in good hands.
• 1:20:11
  Oh, we were just organized as the last week.
• 1:20:14
  He just wake up. Have you ever seen Don't Tell
• 1:20:18
  Mom the babysitter's dead? That's a Yep, that's a like.
• 1:20:23
  Vampire babysitter. I don't understand what just
• 1:20:29
  happened. Yeah.
• 1:20:31
  So this is this is the end of the show.
• 1:20:32
  The way we end the show is the same way we end the show every
• 1:20:35
  week. Right, Duke?
• 1:20:39
  That's right. That's right.
• 1:20:41
  We go around backwards and we ask everybody in reverse order a
• 1:20:46
  few questions. Right Hobo.
• 1:20:51
  Yeah. That's right.
• 1:20:53
  Do you want us? Do you want us to ask the
• 1:20:55
  questions? Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:20:55
  So we're asking going to go in reverse order and we're asking
• 1:20:58
  everyone what is there anything you'd like to say to the people
• 1:21:03
  at CIG, Chris Roberts or the people on the Internet?
• 1:21:06
  And we'll start with who's our? Well, broccoli was sort of our
• 1:21:11
  last one back. So we'll start with with
• 1:21:13
  broccoli, Rob. All right, close those loops.
• 1:21:20
  Not everything has to be Wiccolo.
• 1:21:28
  Let's see here and then I think Skeeter.
• 1:21:31
  I think Skeeter, do you have anything you want to say to?
• 1:21:33
  Is it me? Chris Roberts CIG or the people
• 1:21:36
  on the Internet I. Feel like there was something I
• 1:21:38
  had that I wanted to say earlier and I got it, but since since
• 1:21:43
  Rob is here, I feel like I need to get Rob a shot at like he
• 1:21:47
  doesn't get enough credit. So people probably don't know,
• 1:21:50
  but at Citizen Con, Rob gave me his raffle ticket and that
• 1:21:57
  particular raffle ticket won me A600I and I named that 600I
• 1:22:04
  after Rob. And if you see it in game, it's
• 1:22:10
  the name is Broccoli. Rob SD, it's SD.
• 1:22:14
  And then Rob, he was like, what's the SD stand for?
• 1:22:17
  I said sugar daddy. I feel.
• 1:22:23
  Like the world just needs to know.
• 1:22:27
  Congratulations folks, if you see skater in the verse, you may
• 1:22:31
  be riding broccoli rub. Oh wow, oh wow.
• 1:22:35
  Phrasing. OK, that escalated quickly, but.
• 1:22:38
  Wow dude, thank you for. Married.
• 1:22:41
  Hobo hobo, take it off. I am.
• 1:22:43
  Yeah, my turn. I I would like to see that
• 1:22:49
  crafting inventory preview that we're probably going to
• 1:22:52
  hopefully get this. I don't.
• 1:22:53
  No, no, no. You were supposed to host.
• 1:22:55
  He wants you to host. He wants you to do the duties.
• 1:22:58
  I want you to do some. This is practice.
• 1:22:59
  This is. Practice.
• 1:23:01
  All right, the wicked. I think it's your turn, I think.
• 1:23:05
  It was Pluto. No, you have to ask him.
• 1:23:07
  Is there anything you want to say?
• 1:23:10
  Ask the question. OK, OK.
• 1:23:12
  Is there anything you want to say to Eig?
• 1:23:16
  The our viewers, the people on the Internet?
• 1:23:21
  Not Sandy. Just keep on trying, don't give
• 1:23:24
  up like some other developers have please.
• 1:23:30
  Thank you. All right.
• 1:23:34
  Next I believe was. Anubis.
• 1:23:40
  Anubis, Lord Anubis, you have anything to say to CIG?
• 1:23:46
  Our viewers are the people on the Internet.
• 1:23:48
  Chris Roberts. Chris Roberts, Do we have to
• 1:23:51
  bring the Roberts into this like?
• 1:23:54
  Yes, every time you tradition. You have to.
• 1:23:56
  Shout out to Sandy Roberts. You're the pain.
• 1:24:00
  Is. Well, is that?
• 1:24:04
  Really. His wife?
• 1:24:06
  Is that her name? Yeah.
• 1:24:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:24:08
  How? Do we know she used to be in the
• 1:24:10
  videos all the time? She.
• 1:24:11
  Used to be the marketing director.
• 1:24:12
  I think she is the marketing director.
• 1:24:13
  She is the marketing director. Again, she still has some kind
• 1:24:16
  of position, I think in the company.
• 1:24:18
  Yeah, she's number one wife. Marketing, I'm not going to grab
• 1:24:23
  that low hanging fruit, Anubis Lewis Anubis, you have to say.
• 1:24:27
  Buddy. What I have to say is, OK, we
• 1:24:34
  got like a lot of crap going on all over the place, but we don't
• 1:24:40
  have really environmental NBCS. So, you know, we used to, we
• 1:24:47
  used to have the UE Navy patrolling around, you know, you
• 1:24:51
  know, star bases and stuff. And that was always really cool,
• 1:24:55
  you know, But we just don't have enough of that right now.
• 1:24:58
  And I'm kind of confused as to why we need to bring that back.
• 1:25:02
  I think it really helps, you know, like if you saw rough and
• 1:25:05
  ready, like rolling around, you know, their stations, you know,
• 1:25:08
  patrolling and and trying to catch you all riding dirty, you
• 1:25:13
  know, I mean, like, that's exactly the kind of stuff that
• 1:25:17
  makes the game feel like it's not just a place to for us to
• 1:25:22
  hang out. It like it feels like it's, it's
• 1:25:25
  a place where we're kind of experiencing a Galaxy together.
• 1:25:31
  That's good, that's good in a small room.
• 1:25:34
  Pluto without our shirts on. Yep, Yep.
• 1:25:37
  Pluto, do you have anything you want to say to CIG, Chris
• 1:25:40
  Roberts or the people on the Internet?
• 1:25:43
  I would like salvage V2 better. Salvage way?
• 1:25:48
  Is it a salvage? Yeah, yeah, better salvage
• 1:25:53
  gameplay, right? Yes, such as removing the size 3
• 1:25:58
  and size 4 components from ships.
• 1:26:04
  I imagine we won't see something like that until Maelstrom and we
• 1:26:06
  can crack the ships and get them out that way.
• 1:26:09
  Tell. You fun.
• 1:26:13
  That'd be. Cool.
• 1:26:15
  All right. I've got a physicalized Rangers.
• 1:26:17
  Kazukabo, Kazukabo, Anything you want to say to CIG, Chris
• 1:26:21
  Roberts, the people on the Internet.
• 1:26:24
  Let's see that crafting and inventory Jack preview for Evo
• 1:26:30
  please. This week, please.
• 1:26:32
  It's already Wednesday. Yep, well you might get it
• 1:26:36
  tomorrow because there's an SCL tomorrow all about industrial
• 1:26:39
  gameplay. Hope you all enjoy it, and I
• 1:26:42
  hope you all enjoy the rest of your evening.
• 1:26:44
  This has been Opencoms Radio Duke play us out.
• 1:27:01
  This is not that song. There we go.