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- 0:32Speaker 3: I'm your host, Cary Letts. David Erfley is with us now.
- 0:36Speaker 3: As you can see from the screen, a junior miner junkie.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I got it right that time. It's a little bit
- 0:41Speaker 3: of a tongue twister you came up with.
- 0:43Speaker 2: There, David. I just say JMJ. JMJ.
- 0:48Speaker 3: All right. From now on. where today it's September 10th,
- 0:54Speaker 3: the day before 9-11, and gold and especially silver are
- 0:59Speaker 3: getting hammered. We've got all sorts of bad numbers coming out,
- 1:05Speaker 3: and yet somehow the world continues onward, right? Yeah.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I mean, with the ECB came out and hiked rates,
- 1:12Speaker 2: so your favorite buzzword, algorithm selling. It started to happen.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I mean, last Friday, we had the same thing because
- 1:22Speaker 2: anything rate height sensitive right now is going to get
- 1:25Speaker 2: hit with algorithm selling. It happened last Friday with the
- 1:28Speaker 2: jobs numbers. But as soon as the algorithm selling was done,
- 1:32Speaker 2: we had weakness being bought in the miners right away.
- 1:35Speaker 2: I don't see that happening today yet because I think
- 1:39Speaker 2: tomorrow everybody's waiting to see what the CPI number is.
- 1:41Speaker 2: The PPI number today came in hotter than expected. So
- 1:44Speaker 2: that's also helping. push gold and especially silver down. Silver
- 1:49Speaker 2: futures are now below 65. And gold is well below 4,500.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Those are the two numbers to really watch as far
- 1:56Speaker 2: as weekly levels. 70 on the upside for silver and 4,500
- 2:01Speaker 2: on the upside for gold. But we're just consolidating, right?
- 2:06Speaker 2: I mean, August was an incredible month for gold, but
- 2:10Speaker 2: especially the miners, right? Gold went up 10%. But the
- 2:13Speaker 2: miners went up over 30%. So that's three times leverage
- 2:17Speaker 2: last month. So now that moves being consolidated. I mean,
- 2:21Speaker 2: gold stocks are already back to where they were when
- 2:24Speaker 2: gold was just below $ 5, 000. So gold is leading. I mean,
- 2:30Speaker 2: the miners are leading the metals. Yeah, that's what you
- 2:32Speaker 2: want to see. Yeah, that's what you want to see. So,
- 2:36Speaker 2: I mean, as far as a downside in the short term,
- 2:39Speaker 2: I don't see it going any lower than $ 4, 200. Now,
- 2:43Speaker 2: it's rate high expectations of 70 percent because of what happened,
- 2:48Speaker 2: what was announced today with the ECB and the PPI
- 2:51Speaker 2: inflation number. But, you know, as far as the Fed
- 2:55Speaker 2: is concerned, they're pretty much their hands are continue to
- 2:59Speaker 2: continue to be tied here between a rock and a
- 3:01Speaker 2: hard place because they can't. They can't really raise rates
- 3:05Speaker 2: because of the really, you know, the terrible debt situation.
- 3:08Speaker 2: And now percent is having to come in and try
- 3:10Speaker 2: to manipulate the bond market because the central banks are
- 3:15Speaker 2: not buying our debt anymore. So it's a real mess.
- 3:19Speaker 2: And the gold price has been reacting positively. But like
- 3:22Speaker 2: I said, especially the gold stocks, because the gold stocks
- 3:25Speaker 2: are now are breaking out against the gold price. You know,
- 3:30Speaker 2: for 13 years, they've done this consolidation. And now they're
- 3:35Speaker 2: starting to break out again. The gold stocks are starting
- 3:37Speaker 2: to break out against gold and also gold against the
- 3:41Speaker 2: stock market is gold. Gold miners against the stock market
- 3:44Speaker 2: market is starting to look pretty good. I mean, it
- 3:46Speaker 2: doesn't take much rotation coming out of AI. These hot
- 3:50Speaker 2: AI stocks coming into the miners to really move them.
- 3:53Speaker 2: And you're starting to see a little bit of that.
- 3:55Speaker 2: If you take a look at. The share price of
- 3:58Speaker 2: Newmont and Wheaton Precious Metals, you know, those are two
- 4:02Speaker 2: very large liquid companies that generalist investors are aware of. And,
- 4:06Speaker 2: you know, Newmont is the only gold stock in the
- 4:08Speaker 2: S & P 500. So those stocks have already reached
- 4:12Speaker 2: their all-time highs. So you're printing money. Because of some rotation.
- 4:19Speaker 3: They're printing money. I remember we looked at the, when
- 4:23Speaker 3: we were in Nevada and we saw, you know, The
- 4:28Speaker 3: it was then a newer consolidation, the Newmont consolidation there.
- 4:34Speaker 3: And man, that that was back then it was like,
- 4:39Speaker 3: I think, around like twelve hundred or something. And they
- 4:42Speaker 3: were still making a ton of money. Now you can
- 4:46Speaker 3: only imagine. Right.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I mean, all in sustaining costs now are
- 4:50Speaker 2: averaging less than I think they're less than nineteen hundred.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Right now. And the cold prices, you know, around forty three,
- 4:56Speaker 2: forty four hundred dollars an ounce. That's huge margins. These
- 4:59Speaker 2: these companies are are are are spewing out now. And,
- 5:03Speaker 2: you know, they've they've done they've done the work, you know,
- 5:07Speaker 2: from they've learned from their past mistakes, from from from
- 5:10Speaker 2: the last bull market where they were buying low grade
- 5:12Speaker 2: ounces with their with their paper. And not paying much
- 5:17Speaker 2: attention to debt as the debt continued to climb and
- 5:20Speaker 2: they weren't paying dividends, they weren't buying back shares. I mean,
- 5:23Speaker 2: they were doing the exact wrong thing at the exact
- 5:25Speaker 2: wrong time. They were adding uneconomic ounces, paying a premium
- 5:31Speaker 2: for them at the top of a gold price cycle. And,
- 5:36Speaker 2: you know, and now pretty much they've done the opposite.
- 5:38Speaker 2: You know, they're too conservative. Now they need to add
- 5:42Speaker 2: ounces because, you know, they've, They've they've they've shorted their
- 5:45Speaker 2: balance sheets. You know, they paid off their debt. They're
- 5:48Speaker 2: paying decent dividends. They're doing share buybacks. They got all
- 5:51Speaker 2: this cash. So they need to start adding ounces. We've
- 5:54Speaker 2: seen some M & A, but we really haven't seen
- 5:56Speaker 2: it pick up lately again.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we've got Beaver Creek coming up and we
- 6:04Speaker 3: could see something there, huh?
- 6:06Speaker 2: Yeah, we usually do. I mean, you see, it starts
- 6:08Speaker 2: with Beaver Creek and then it goes into Denver Gold Forum.
- 6:10Speaker 2: And that's what all these guys are talking about, right?
- 6:13Speaker 2: They're all getting together to say, hey, you know, it
- 6:15Speaker 2: makes sense if we merge or make sense if we
- 6:17Speaker 2: take this one out. Let's let's do a deal. So
- 6:22Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised to see something big come out
- 6:24Speaker 2: of either Beaver Creek or Denver Gold Forum. And if
- 6:27Speaker 2: it's and if it's a big, high profile merger, then
- 6:30Speaker 2: you might just might start to see some piggybacking, some
- 6:33Speaker 2: other some other takeovers. Because that's that's what we need.
- 6:35Speaker 2: We need to get we need to get some M
- 6:37Speaker 2: & A going again in this sector. And we need
- 6:39Speaker 2: to we also need some major discoveries to get, you know,
- 6:42Speaker 2: generalists finally excited in this sector because they're really still
- 6:45Speaker 2: not in the sector yet. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's just
- 6:49Speaker 2: waiting for that match.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Right.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:53Speaker 2: I mean, that's I mean, I mean, Besant did that
- 6:57Speaker 2: provided a match, you know, at the beginning of of
- 7:02Speaker 2: August when when he. Did the currency intervention into the
- 7:08Speaker 2: Japanese yen? Because Japan stopped buying the U.S. debt. So
- 7:13Speaker 2: he had to go in and start manipulating that. And
- 7:15Speaker 2: as soon as he did that, that's when the gold
- 7:18Speaker 2: price broke out above 4,200 and had that huge move.
- 7:20Speaker 2: And then on the 19th, when he did the same
- 7:23Speaker 2: thing with the U.S. debt- you know, manipulating the U.S. market.
- 7:29Speaker 2: It just continued. So, you know, the Fed's between a
- 7:33Speaker 2: rock and a hard place. The cent is trying to
- 7:35Speaker 2: prop up the market. I mean, everything they're trying to do,
- 7:38Speaker 2: you know, it's been tried before and it didn't work. And,
- 7:41Speaker 2: you know, you've got Trump coming out and saying, hey,
- 7:45Speaker 2: if the Republicans win the election, we're going to give
- 7:47Speaker 2: every adult $ 5, 000.
- 7:49Speaker 3: $ 5, 000.
- 7:50Speaker 2: $ 5, 000.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Come on.
- 7:53Speaker 2: That's literally buying votes, right?
- 7:55Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it doesn't get any more blatant than that.
- 7:58Speaker 2: It certainly doesn't.
- 7:59Speaker 3: But let me ask you a question, you know, like
- 8:02Speaker 3: the Trump accounts for kids. Like, let's just assume that
- 8:06Speaker 3: the dollar will not be relegated to the dustbin of history.
- 8:12Speaker 3: You know, on the one hand, I can as a libertarian,
- 8:15Speaker 3: I'm totally against just printing up money and handing it out.
- 8:21Speaker 3: On the other hand, it kind of like it's a
- 8:25Speaker 3: real course in financial education where you get a thousand bucks. And,
- 8:31Speaker 3: you know, when Junior hits 21, then he has a
- 8:34Speaker 3: long weekend in Vegas, right? Yeah.
- 8:39Speaker 2: I mean, everything they're trying. I mean, this is just,
- 8:42Speaker 2: you know, the whole financial system is just a bonsai scheme.
- 8:44Speaker 2: And now people are starting to realize that. is the
- 8:47Speaker 2: debt has always been a problem, and now it's becoming
- 8:51Speaker 2: more into focus. When it hit that $ 40 trillion round number, right?
- 8:54Speaker 2: I mean, it got a lot of press. Yeah. You know,
- 8:58Speaker 2: I mean, with paying, you know, the interest we're paying
- 9:00Speaker 2: is $ 1. 1 trillion a year now, and every four months
- 9:04Speaker 2: adds another trillion. I mean, given $ 5, 000, every American would
- 9:07Speaker 2: add another trillion.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Yeah, what's a trillion?
- 9:10Speaker 2: What's a trillion here, a trillion there? You know, it's
- 9:13Speaker 2: just ones and zeros. You know, it's... Yeah. And the
- 9:18Speaker 2: gold price is not lost on this. I mean, look
- 9:21Speaker 2: at what the gold price has done ever since Bretton
- 9:23Speaker 2: Woods collapsed, right? From $ 35 to $ 5, 600. Exactly here.
- 9:28Speaker 3: I'm just going to put up this little app that
- 9:31Speaker 3: I created here, if I can figure out how to
- 9:34Speaker 3: do it. And so we can show, because inflation is
- 9:39Speaker 3: always abstract. For me, it stopped becoming abstract a couple
- 9:44Speaker 3: of weeks ago. I was at the heck was I
- 9:48Speaker 3: someplace and I went into Walgreens to buy some deodorant
- 9:54Speaker 3: and deodorant that I was paying three bucks a container
- 9:58Speaker 3: for was nine dollars. and that's when the inflation really
- 10:02Speaker 3: hit me but if you really want to see how
- 10:05Speaker 3: inflation works.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Wait a minute before you show this you know what
- 10:08Speaker 2: my inflation calculator has been over the over the past
- 10:11Speaker 2: 10 years so Costco chocolate chunk cookies it's okay Because
- 10:18Speaker 2: when I started buying them about 10 years ago, they
- 10:20Speaker 2: were huge. Right? And they were like $ 5. 99. Right? So
- 10:27Speaker 2: the cookies continued to get smaller while they tried to
- 10:30Speaker 2: keep the price the same. Then they raised it to $ 7. 99.
- 10:33Speaker 2: And now they're $ 9. 99. And there's a lot less because
- 10:38Speaker 2: I put them in the same cookie jar too. So
- 10:40Speaker 2: now the cookie jar is not full and the price
- 10:43Speaker 2: is a lot higher. That's nuts, man.
- 10:46Speaker 3: But Yeah, like it just hits you certain times. So
- 10:50Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to create a calculator. So I
- 10:52Speaker 3: was born in 1957. According to the rigged CPI, that dollar,
- 10:59Speaker 3: it now takes $ 11. 79 to equal the purchasing power of
- 11:02Speaker 3: that $ 1. But if we flip it.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Around in 2026, that dollar is $ 0.
- 11:04Speaker 3: 085, basically, Eight and a half cents of a 1957
- 11:18Speaker 3: dollar equals a 2026 dollar. And then I put in housing,
- 11:25Speaker 3: which is a real tell. So housing is 40 dollars.
- 11:29Speaker 3: So we see that the consumer prices don't measure housing
- 11:34Speaker 3: and then gold.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 11:35Speaker 3: A dollar's worth of gold back then. Now, obviously, it
- 11:38Speaker 3: was fixed it artificially low at 35 bucks, 130 silver dollars.
- 11:43Speaker 3: is a laggard right now but it wasn't a few
- 11:46Speaker 3: weeks ago a few months ago it's 57 but here's
- 11:50Speaker 3: the really interesting thing the dow jones just straight investment
- 11:55Speaker 3: gains which is close to housing but then when you
- 11:57Speaker 3: include reinvested dividends it goes up to that you know
- 12:02Speaker 3: going in gold right yeah yeah and then because the
- 12:08Speaker 3: gold prices outperform the stock market oh yeah s and
- 12:12Speaker 3: p with Total reinvested dividends. But then let's look at
- 12:16Speaker 3: the debt to GDP. Back in 1957, it was 57.4,
- 12:24Speaker 3: and now it's 122%. Yeah, I.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Remember it being 35% in 1980 when I remember seeing
- 12:33Speaker 2: the paper coming out and seeing debt to GDP around 35%,
- 12:38Speaker 2: and our debt now is over a trillion dollars. Yeah.
- 12:41Speaker 2: That was back in like 1980. There it is.
- 12:43Speaker 3: 1980, 30.18%. So, you know, I showed this to my
- 12:50Speaker 3: kids and they're in their 30s and they were like
- 12:52Speaker 3: freaked because they don't live this stuff like we do.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Another thing to look at is a junk silver quarter, right?
- 13:01Speaker 2: A quarter minted before 1965. That was worth a quarter
- 13:05Speaker 2: back in 1964. That was worth a quarter. But now
- 13:09Speaker 2: that junk silver quarter is worth like $ 12, $ 13. Exactly.
- 13:14Speaker 3: That's exactly right. So from 1980 to now, it's 359.
- 13:20Speaker 3: But yeah, like we used to be able to buy
- 13:26Speaker 3: a gallon of gas for 20 cents, so two dimes.
- 13:29Speaker 3: And now, you know, the purchasing power of silver has
- 13:33Speaker 3: actually gone up because even at $ 4 gas, you know,
- 13:39Speaker 3: it's basically– It's basically.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Less than a dime now. Well, I'm in California, so
- 13:45Speaker 2: $ 4 gas, we haven't seen that in quite a while.
- 13:47Speaker 2: We're talking about $ 6 gas here.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Anyway, this is all available at dollartimemachine.com. The link will
- 13:56Speaker 3: be in the show notes. Give me feedback out there, guys.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Let me know what you think. And so the question
- 14:04Speaker 3: is now, where do we go from here? Yeah.
- 14:07Speaker 2: I mean, of course, that's a wonderful question. As far
- 14:12Speaker 2: as the gold price and the silver price is concerned,
- 14:18Speaker 2: if you look at what happened in 2008, the lead
- 14:20Speaker 2: up of the gold price into 2008, we had a
- 14:21Speaker 2: double bottom right around 9-11, around $ 250 an ounce. And
- 14:23Speaker 2: then the gold price quadrupled into the first quarter of 2008.
- 14:37Speaker 2: But it was just an intraday peak at $ 1, 000 an ounce.
- 14:42Speaker 2: And that was right ahead of the great financial crisis.
- 14:46Speaker 2: So then we had about a 30% correction in gold
- 14:52Speaker 2: and about a 55% correction in silver.
- 14:56Speaker 3: That's when I started buying it, right after that.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Right. And then just recently, we just had... that intermediate
- 15:06Speaker 2: peak in the gold and silver prices at 5,600 in
- 15:09Speaker 2: gold and $ 121 in silver, right? Gold tripled in like
- 15:16Speaker 2: two and a half years. But the silver price quadrupled
- 15:21Speaker 2: in a year. And lo and behold, what just happened
- 15:25Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, now we've had a
- 15:29Speaker 2: six-month correction Gold corrected 30% down to a little below $ 4, 000.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Silver corrected 55% down to around $ 54, $ 55 an ounce.
- 15:40Speaker 2: It took about eight months to do it back in 2008,
- 15:43Speaker 2: but it took six months to do it this time.
- 15:46Speaker 2: But then following that correction, gold rallied 180%, but silver
- 15:49Speaker 2: rose 490% into that 50%. cyclical peak that we had
- 15:56Speaker 2: in 2011. So a similar move from the recent lows
- 16:00Speaker 2: that we just had in gold and silver would see
- 16:03Speaker 2: the gold price rise to around 10,000 an ounce and
- 16:06Speaker 2: silver reaching 300 an ounce by 2029. Now, if somebody
- 16:11Speaker 2: would have told me that gold was going to go
- 16:13Speaker 2: to $ 10, 000 an ounce, you know, five, six, seven years ago,
- 16:16Speaker 2: I'd have said, That's a bit much. That's a bit hyperbolic.
- 16:22Speaker 2: But now it might even be conservative given what the U.S.
- 16:26Speaker 2: 's untenable fiscal situation is in. Because, you know, as
- 16:30Speaker 2: far as what Washington is doing, they continue to borrow
- 16:33Speaker 2: and spend with no intention of paying anything back. And
- 16:36Speaker 2: everybody's starting to get the gist that, hey. there's going
- 16:39Speaker 2: to have to be a default there's going to have
- 16:42Speaker 2: to be a devaluation there's going to have to be
- 16:44Speaker 2: something so and if you take a look at the
- 16:46Speaker 2: gold price i mean it continues to go higher along
- 16:49Speaker 2: with the u.s debt ceiling which is you know just
- 16:51Speaker 2: a misnomer it's not a ceiling.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Yeah well whatever it's a leaky uh roof that's yeah
- 16:59Speaker 3: so uh so basically uh but you don't want to
- 17:04Speaker 3: get In the situation, like I managed to sell a
- 17:07Speaker 3: little bit going into the silver high. Yes. Some ETFs
- 17:13Speaker 3: and stuff that I would never touch otherwise, but I
- 17:16Speaker 3: knew it was coming. Yeah.
- 17:17Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was obviously a time to
- 17:19Speaker 2: to definitely trim some profits. I mean, I told my
- 17:23Speaker 2: my subscribers that I mean. It's difficult to call tops
- 17:27Speaker 2: and bottoms, but when you see a parabolic spike like that,
- 17:29Speaker 2: it becomes pretty easy. As far as gold stocks are concerned,
- 17:35Speaker 2: we're in a secular bull market now. We've been waiting
- 17:38Speaker 2: for this bull market in the gold stocks for a
- 17:40Speaker 2: long time. Do not sell your core positions, but you
- 17:43Speaker 2: have to trim the profits on the way up. Yeah.
- 17:46Speaker 2: That is just necessary because this sector is very volatile.
- 17:51Speaker 2: And if you don't take some profits, then when you
- 17:53Speaker 2: watch all your hard-earned profits go by the wayside really
- 17:56Speaker 2: quickly because these corrections happen fast and furious, that's when
- 18:00Speaker 2: you start to get panicky and you sell bottoms. So,
- 18:03Speaker 2: you know, it's difficult. It's easy to say, but it's
- 18:06Speaker 2: tough to do. But, I mean, you have to trim
- 18:09Speaker 2: when you see those rhino horns. And then you have
- 18:11Speaker 2: to buy when you see those fishing lines, right? Especially
- 18:14Speaker 2: when you see something short-term bad news happening in a company,
- 18:18Speaker 2: you know, the model is still viable, you still believe
- 18:22Speaker 2: in what they're doing, you know, they've got strong management,
- 18:24Speaker 2: they've got a great property, but make something short-term bad
- 18:27Speaker 2: news might happen with it. That's either, you know, that's
- 18:30Speaker 2: an opportunity to add more or you take a position
- 18:35Speaker 2: if it's on your watch list that, hey, I've been
- 18:37Speaker 2: waiting for something short-term, some short term bad news to
- 18:40Speaker 2: happen with this company so I can get it so
- 18:42Speaker 2: I can get a lower risk position. Because, you know,
- 18:46Speaker 2: you have to you have to flip those emotions. You know,
- 18:48Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the only way to to to
- 18:51Speaker 2: really make money. I mean, in this sector, I mean,
- 18:55Speaker 2: you can't I mean, you can't be doing the opposite
- 18:58Speaker 2: and buying these spikes. And then you get scared out
- 19:02Speaker 2: and you sell them lows. I mean, you're going to
- 19:04Speaker 2: lose your money really quickly.
- 19:05Speaker 3: That's what John Q does. That's what Wall Street counts
- 19:09Speaker 3: on John Q doing, right?
- 19:11Speaker 2: Right. I mean, you know, I'm a serial early buyer.
- 19:17Speaker 2: You know, I buy early. I'm buying on the way down.
- 19:21Speaker 2: I'm accumulating. You know, when I take an entry position
- 19:24Speaker 2: of a half position or whatever, I'm hoping it goes lower.
- 19:28Speaker 2: So by the time when I get the full position,
- 19:30Speaker 2: I get it cheaper. Average down. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, because
- 19:36Speaker 2: if you do it the opposite, if you start buying
- 19:38Speaker 2: when these things start moving higher, then you start to
- 19:41Speaker 2: get a little nervous. There's gaps in the stock. There's
- 19:43Speaker 2: gaps the gdxj they're always looking at you staring at
- 19:47Speaker 2: you going okay is that gap gonna fill did i
- 19:50Speaker 2: buy too late yada yada yada you know i mean
- 19:53Speaker 2: it's you know but you have a lot of patience
- 19:56Speaker 2: and you have to buy the right stocks before you
- 19:58Speaker 2: have that that patience i mean there's still a lot
- 20:01Speaker 2: of crap in this sector that's the bad thing about
- 20:03Speaker 2: the bear the really long market that we had in
- 20:05Speaker 2: the juniors it didn't It really didn't cleanse out much.
- 20:10Speaker 2: All that crap is still there. They still got financed.
- 20:14Speaker 2: And you're still going to have to wade through the
- 20:16Speaker 2: minefield that is the junior resource stock sector. I mean,
- 20:20Speaker 2: it's a minefield. You just have to make sure you
- 20:23Speaker 2: get in the right ones and hold them. Like I said,
- 20:27Speaker 2: you trim them as they're going higher, especially if they
- 20:30Speaker 2: get to be too large of a position in your portfolio.
- 20:33Speaker 2: You know, I've got a stock that's a 30 bagger
- 20:35Speaker 2: now and I keep trimming it because it's getting too
- 20:38Speaker 2: big in the portfolio. It's a good problem, right? Such problems.
- 20:44Speaker 3: You know, I w I would call it a, uh,
- 20:46Speaker 3: IED field that improvised explosive device field.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Right. Right. And I'm hoping for more weakness here because
- 20:52Speaker 2: I've got a lot of new subscribers and they're, they're,
- 20:54Speaker 2: you know, they're accumulating the stocks that, that we've already
- 20:57Speaker 2: done really well on. And I'd like to see that.
- 21:00Speaker 2: I'd like to see them go a little lower so
- 21:01Speaker 2: they can get better positions. Yeah.
- 21:04Speaker 3: Well, we're going to be, uh, in, uh, Beaver Creek, uh,
- 21:08Speaker 3: in exact, well, 12 days. And, uh, You expect to
- 21:13Speaker 3: see some fireworks there, don't you?
- 21:15Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny. I mean, Beaver Creek always
- 21:19Speaker 2: happens in September. It's usually earlier in September. And you
- 21:25Speaker 2: usually have that Beaver Creek curse like you have the
- 21:27Speaker 2: PDAC curse. Because October is seasonally a bad month for
- 21:33Speaker 2: the precious metals sector. So, you know, you go in,
- 21:36Speaker 2: you have all these one-on-one meetings, you get excited about companies. Oh, wow,
- 21:39Speaker 2: this looks good. I'm going to buy it, whatever. And
- 21:41Speaker 2: it immediately starts going down as soon as you get
- 21:43Speaker 2: home from the conference. Tell me about it. Yeah, I mean, that's,
- 21:47Speaker 2: I mean, so you just, you know, you do your
- 21:50Speaker 2: due diligence, you talk with the companies, you get all
- 21:52Speaker 2: the information, you know, and, you know, you just, you
- 21:56Speaker 2: scale into these things. You don't just buy a big
- 21:58Speaker 2: position and say, okay, this is the stock I want
- 22:00Speaker 2: to buy. I'm buying it all right now. Yep.
- 22:05Speaker 3: All right. Well, interesting times.
- 22:07Speaker 2: That's for sure.
- 22:08Speaker 3: We're living through interesting times.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Chinese curse.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Yep. Usually we're dealing with tax loss selling season when
- 22:15Speaker 2: we're at Beaver Creek too. Yeah.
- 22:18Speaker 3: It's such problems, but, uh, but we are getting to
- 22:21Speaker 3: the strong part of the year and Q1 and the
- 22:26Speaker 3: geopolitical situation. Everything is going contrary to what you expected
- 22:30Speaker 3: to do, but nonetheless, uh, That's the head fake that
- 22:36Speaker 3: we encounter so often here in this market.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, in bear markets, it's always one
- 22:45Speaker 2: step forward, two steps back. And in bull markets, it's
- 22:48Speaker 2: the opposite. It's two steps forward and one step back. Yeah.
- 22:52Speaker 2: That's what you continue to see here. Exactly. All right, man.
- 22:56Speaker 3: Well, hey, I will see you in Beaver Creek. I
- 23:01Speaker 3: have this coming up for you. Sweet. A paragraph copy
- 23:06Speaker 3: just for you.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Nice.
- 23:07Speaker 3: And if it was a little later, I'd get Martin
- 23:11Speaker 3: to sign it himself, Armstrong Economic Code. Just go over
- 23:15Speaker 3: to armstrongbook.com. You can get it there. And, hey, we'll
- 23:22Speaker 3: see you in 12 days. And hopefully nothing will blow
- 23:27Speaker 3: up before then.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Yeah. Looking forward to it, Gary. Always a pleasure speaking
- 23:31Speaker 2: with you.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Tell us your site again. Don't forget, plug for your site. Oh, yes.
- 23:36Speaker 2: JuniorMinerJunkieWithAY.com.
- 23:40Speaker 3: You taking members now?
- 23:42Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still a bit of room left. I think
- 23:44Speaker 2: there's about 20, 25 subscriptions available because I cap it
- 23:49Speaker 2: at 500.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm going to start to use that as
- 23:53Speaker 3: a contrary indicator.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Oh, I always use subscription rates. Because in January, February,
- 24:02Speaker 2: I started to get tons of them. I'm like, okay,
- 24:05Speaker 2: we're getting close to a top. It's guaranteed, man.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Yes.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Two in July, they just dried up to nothing. I'm like, okay,
- 24:13Speaker 2: we're getting close to a bottom.
- 24:15Speaker 3: And it's such a great indicator because it's just purely behavioral.
- 24:20Speaker 2: You know? Absolutely. It's prickly, nothing economic, but it's behavioral.
- 24:24Speaker 2: It's all sentiment. Yeah. Exactly.
- 24:26Speaker 3: So hopefully you won't hit that number for a while.
- 24:30Speaker 3: And the good times will roll. Yes.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Yes. I'd like to get as many people in as
- 24:35Speaker 2: possible that want to make money. We did really well
- 24:39Speaker 2: last year. The portfolio was up 265%. It's already up
- 24:43Speaker 2: 30% again this year. Slazy.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:46Speaker 2: All right. All right.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Hey, any questions, comments? David, myself, KL at KerryLutz.com. The
- 24:54Speaker 3: inflation indicator that I showed on the screen is... DollarTimeMachine.com
- 25:01Speaker 3: and to get Martin's book, ArmstrongEconomics.com.
- 25:05Speaker 2: David, we'll see you soon. Looking forward to it. Thanks again.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Cary Lutz's Financial Survival Network, your
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