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#242 - Bryson Tiller · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Saboulet Camp Show special guest. I've interviewed him before, but
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  Speaker 1: never on camera. By the way, shout out to Bryson Tailor.
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  Speaker 1: He's in the building. Man, yes, sir, Yes, sir, the legend. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, why are you doing stuff on
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  Speaker 1: camera now? Because before you were not doing camera stuff,
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like it was kind of like when
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  Speaker 1: you first came out, like the Traps old days, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of were keeping a mysterious profile. Yeah. I remember
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  Speaker 1: I interviewed you on the bus, but it was like
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  Speaker 1: no cameras and that was kind of like the thing
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, yo, we hear the interviews, Like, but Bryson,
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  Speaker 1: you're kind of very like you kind of you were,
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  Speaker 1: You're still you're pretty low key dude in general, right, Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: I was just new to it. I didn't want to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be all over the internet, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, And it was just like a thing for me.
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  Speaker 1: I just was just very new to everything. So I
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  Speaker 1: was just kind of like trying to take my time
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  Speaker 1: and not just be rushed into it. You know that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're kind of like the music
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  Speaker 1: industry is a very finicky business. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: even just just the entertainment industy in general. You kind
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  Speaker 1: of splash onto the scene in such a meteoric way
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  Speaker 1: and so fast. Was it like hard to adjust to
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  Speaker 1: it in such a quick way? You think that that's yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was a lot a lot to adjust too. Like
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  Speaker 1: it was like I always tell you who do I
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  Speaker 1: give this analogy to? But I said all the time,
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  Speaker 1: it's like taking up a lion that was raised inside
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  Speaker 1: the house and then just put them in a jungle.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For the rist time, it's
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  Speaker 1: like he's still lying, but you know, it's just like
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  Speaker 1: weird out here, you know. Yeah, it was going on
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent Man for food, Yeah, nah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think like I think I think back to like
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  Speaker 1: when I first met you. I think I think that
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  Speaker 1: was when the traps will come out twenty fifteen or
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  Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen fifteen. Yeah, Man, by the way, those Nike
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  Speaker 1: Dad hats, Man, they owe you a check for those, man,
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  Speaker 1: Nike unintended by the way, you had those Nike Dad
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  Speaker 1: hats popping. Yeah, it was crazy. Did you notice like
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  Speaker 1: when you were wearing that at like everyone started wearing
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  Speaker 1: the Nike like just the vintage like Nike almost like
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  Speaker 1: the Tiger Woods had kind of low key. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It took a while for me to realize, and then
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  Speaker 1: I started noticing, Yeah, everybody that everybody's wearing the dad
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  Speaker 1: at you Definitely, yeah, you were. I would say, you're
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  Speaker 1: kind of the originator of dad hats and hip hop. Looky, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, I definitely you are. One hundred percent. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's on a round of applause everybody in here. We
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  Speaker 1: are wearing dad hats because of Pan Griffy, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, man, what a time though, Man,
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like, you know, we got to give
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  Speaker 1: your flowers for being somebody who really kind of revolutionized
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  Speaker 1: the genre and kind of created your own genre within
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  Speaker 1: R and B. And I feel like nowadays we really
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  Speaker 1: hear your influence on music in general. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like maybe you don't get enough flowers in terms of
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  Speaker 1: just kind of bringing a new genre into I guess
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  Speaker 1: a subgenre of music into R and B. Hmmm. I
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  Speaker 1: I mean I've seen a lot of people say trap
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  Speaker 1: so and but that, but don't mention my name, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Or I see people talk about
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky and don't mention my name, which is crazy. It's nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's crazy as wow. Right, don't ever do it again.
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  Speaker 1: Don't let it happen again, right yeah, yeah, so no,
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  Speaker 1: but it's all good that it's all up. Yeah, now
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  Speaker 1: that obviously Kentucky's obviously a thing now, but when you
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  Speaker 1: came out, it was not a thing. It was not. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well we had people from you know, Nappy Roots, Nappy Roots,
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  Speaker 1: player Static Major ah, yeah, you know, but I just
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  Speaker 1: mean in terms of like being on the forefront, like
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  Speaker 1: you were like on a star level. There's just you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: now you got EStG, you got Jack Carlow, we do
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  Speaker 1: You and Jack have been locked in for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: What is it like now just to see like the
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  Speaker 1: home state really kind of you know, I have some
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  Speaker 1: real representation when for a while you were kind of
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  Speaker 1: standing on the mountain by yourself. Man, I was just
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  Speaker 1: saying this earlier that it's like it's a relief, you
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  Speaker 1: know it all first it felt like it was all
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  Speaker 1: lies on me. You know. Now, I knew that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I knew at some point that like somebody will come
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  Speaker 1: up out of the city, like it's crazy I love
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  Speaker 1: Key predicted. Yes, TG Jack came out of nowhere. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was like, man, it's only a matter
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  Speaker 1: of time before we get like a street artist, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, somebody who's like rapping to the streets from Louisville.
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  Speaker 1: And then next thing, you know, yes, TG comes out
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  Speaker 1: and I was just like, yeah, it's the guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So shout out to Louisville, h for people who have
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  Speaker 1: never been, it is a rabid college town, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, the Cardinals Cardinals basketball pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: How crazy is the rivalry between the Cardinals and the Wildcats.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, I would say it's pretty crazy. I
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  Speaker 1: was never like tuning into the sports like that. I
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  Speaker 1: was in the crib all the time and some Batman
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  Speaker 1: ship like playing video games and that was pretty much it.
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  Speaker 1: Music is what pulled me outside if anything. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, as far as the rivalry goes, it would
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  Speaker 1: be a thing like it's a question like you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, like who you repping? You know Cards
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  Speaker 1: or you know the Wildcats? Wildcats? You know, for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was the Wildcat for sure. Oh you were a
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky wildcast guy. Yeah, yeah, just like Drake, who's obviously
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  Speaker 1: not from there. Yeah, yeah, I watched the team. I
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  Speaker 1: watched the year whenever John Wall, Eric Blesso, DeMarcus Cousins. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a crazy team. Yeah, it was nuts. I
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  Speaker 1: like watched every game. I like weird shit like that,
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  Speaker 1: like anomalies, like they won every game, I like stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, and they had like so many NBA
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  Speaker 1: I mean it just there was like a seven eight
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  Speaker 1: year run where just like every every draft there was
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  Speaker 1: like a top three guy coming from Kentucky. And that
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  Speaker 1: year was insane. Yeah, that was a wild year, even
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  Speaker 1: like what was the what's they do? The Enis Cantor
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  Speaker 1: I think might have been on that team. I think
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  Speaker 1: he was on that team as well. Or what do
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  Speaker 1: they call him now for Enis Freedom? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about well, first of all, you mentioned video games.
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  Speaker 1: You during the pandemic. Uh, we got to see you
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  Speaker 1: on Twitch a lot. Oh yeah, you was gaming pretty heavy.
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  Speaker 1: I was Yeah, was it ape Legends you were playing?
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  Speaker 1: It's still Apex, that's still you know. That's like for
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  Speaker 1: people who don't know man, Apex Legends is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like the step child of the the video game world
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  Speaker 1: because we always hear about call of Duty, right, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: modern warfare. Everybody's on Modern Warfare. And then you hear
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  Speaker 1: about like the overhype ship, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like and then there's like Fortnite, which is
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  Speaker 1: d t A, that's two K and that's COD and
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  Speaker 1: now anything people like mentioned Fortnite or whatever, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But those are like the main games
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  Speaker 1: that people know, Like Apex is on the come up,
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  Speaker 1: on the rise, and people don't even realize that, Like
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  Speaker 1: Apex are just a better game. You think it's better
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  Speaker 1: than all those I wouldn't say all the other games.
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  Speaker 1: My producer, it's all he fucking does. Then COD absolutely
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  Speaker 1: he plays who's your main? Right, okay? Right? Man in
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  Speaker 1: the building? Man? Now she's a legend that you could
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  Speaker 1: select in the game. Oh okay, so she wanted the
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  Speaker 1: o G legends. So when you play Apex Legends, you
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  Speaker 1: it's not do you build your own care No, no,
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  Speaker 1: you don't. You just select from a roster of legends
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  Speaker 1: that they have. Yeah, and if anything, you can put
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  Speaker 1: the on skin. But they all got their own different abilities.
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  Speaker 1: Like my favorite, who's yours mine is Mirage. So basically
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  Speaker 1: like I can like just send a decoy and I
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  Speaker 1: have one Briceontil right here, And then I just walked
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  Speaker 1: to the bathroom. While you're interviewing that. I was about
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  Speaker 1: In real I do, Like I don't want to do
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  Speaker 1: all this ship man, just like, let's send the decoy
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  Speaker 1: out there. Yeah. Back in the day, MF. Doom used
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  Speaker 1: to do that. You know what MF. Doom is? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So he had a guy who was built similar to
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  Speaker 1: no no, And it was like I was we had
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview. What is going on
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  Speaker 1: right now? Obviously you've been you dropped the Weight remix, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, genius. I'm glad somebody did that. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just the yingan. Twins don't get enough love. Man.
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  Speaker 1: We just shot Twins, man. They pulled up to the
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  Speaker 1: shoot happy smiling. Yeah, you know what I mean. It
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  Speaker 1: was just super great guys, just and good good spirits man,
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  Speaker 1: and just classic records. Yeah, exactly, man, And yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: was dope. We dropped that song. We would sitting there
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  Speaker 1: for a while, but I wanted to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: spark and start the album process and kind of shake
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  Speaker 1: up anybody's expectations of what's to come. Yeah, instead of
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  Speaker 1: putting something out there that's like what people used to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you. You You know what I'm saying. We got
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  Speaker 1: a lot more records like that too. And then obviously
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  Speaker 1: you have the this Diddy record that's going crazy, which
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  Speaker 1: is really sir, I mean, what's really your record? You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Shout out to Diddy's exactly producing
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  Speaker 1: a great album. I here right now, yeah man, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so how does that happen? Does he like, do you?
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  Speaker 1: Is that song already? And then Diddy hears it and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, it existed already. It actually got leaked
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube. I said it to my little brother. He
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  Speaker 1: said it to the wrong people. Next thing you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's on YouTube. People like, yo, your song leaked, and
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  Speaker 1: I was pissed about it. I was angry. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: talk to my little brother for months, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: finally I was just like, all right, I'm gonna go check.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see what's going on. See I people
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  Speaker 1: even like this song. I go in there and I
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  Speaker 1: read the comments and everybody's just sharing about sharing his
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  Speaker 1: stories about how they need to move on, and I
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  Speaker 1: relate to this song so much. I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's dope. And then fast forward again to the future.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in LA and I get a call from Diddy
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, come work on the album. I get
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  Speaker 1: out there. I see my song on the song title
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  Speaker 1: on the dry race board, so I was just like,
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  Speaker 1: is that my song? And he plays the song. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: he tells me a similar shares a similar story like
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  Speaker 1: everything that I was seeing in the comments, So I
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  Speaker 1: was right, Dan, this is wild, Like yeah, absolutely, So
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  Speaker 1: he just heard the leaked version, yeah, and just decided
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  Speaker 1: to put it on the whiteboard for his album. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's just some Diddy ship, right, Hey man, I'm rocking
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  Speaker 1: with I would do this. I would do the same
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  Speaker 1: thing if I heard something that nobody really heard and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the world needed to hear. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Diddy from believing in it. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great record. The remix is dope. You guys
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  Speaker 1: did I was at the iHeart Festival and you came out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shout out to Diddy too. Like his performance
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  Speaker 1: at IHRAR Festival was amazing, but it also made me
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  Speaker 1: realize that I'm not the only person who's out of shape,
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  Speaker 1: not for real. Yo. Diddy had a dude who kept
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  Speaker 1: bringing out a cup of water with a straw in
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  Speaker 1: between songs. It was amazing. I was like, if I
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  Speaker 1: was a fucking famous if I was Diddy, I would
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  Speaker 1: have the same thing. If I'm like performing, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I need my water cup guy to come out and
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  Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Diddy. Yeah. No, it's I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know with Diddy, like he's probably him and Khalid.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to see what this album sounds like, because
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's kind of doing his version of
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: what Kala has been doing. But he's Diddy, so it's
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  Speaker 1: just totally different. And it's R and B and R
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: and his arm love or he ain't dead or he
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: said it is dead but he's trying to bring it back.
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  Speaker 1: You know he's dead. I'm glad he said that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, I'm not I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that I agree with him, but I'm just saying I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad he said that because I feel like people out
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: there who either agree or disagree or like it created
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: a conversation about the genre. However you feel about it, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it uh, you know, it's just gonna make things better.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know when I said hip hop was dead,
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  Speaker 1: now look at hip hop. That's the biggest ship. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like, this is true. This is true. Your new album,
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  Speaker 1: how would you describe it as just sonically compared to
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  Speaker 1: you know, everything else stuff? Sonically, I would say, uh hmmm,
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  Speaker 1: it's just very different. Man. We're just trying. I just
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  Speaker 1: explore a lot of new world's places that I never
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  Speaker 1: really been before, and like, well maybe some places I
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  Speaker 1: tried to go before and I wasn't too comfortable in
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  Speaker 1: those spaces, like, for example, a song like Rummy Draw.
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  Speaker 1: Like I had a song called Rummy Draw one of
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  Speaker 1: my second album, and I wasn't really I was nervous
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  Speaker 1: about doing a song like that. Now I have a
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  Speaker 1: song that's kind of like that. But you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a lot more confident in that space. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can just tell, you can hear it, you feel it.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of confidence throughout this throughout this album,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, do you feel like because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Nas went through this with Illmatic and fifty went
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: through it with get Richard I trying where like you
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  Speaker 1: put out an album like Trap Soul and like people
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  Speaker 1: just want another one of those. Yeah, that's the worst,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: right And because that happened with Nas. I mean like,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: if you look back to NAS's second album, it was written,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fucking perfect project in my opinion, but when
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  Speaker 1: it first came out, people were like, Yo, this ain't Illmatic?
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck is this? You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like is that a gift? The gift
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  Speaker 1: in the curse part of having a project like Trap Soul,
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  Speaker 1: and especially it's your first project, right right? Yeah? Crazy
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: the way I'll see it now. I'm just like, man,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: it's there for you to listen to it. Yeah, jay
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Z said it best, Like Nick, can I say, say
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: what you want? Niggas want my old shit by my
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: old album, as simple as that, Like you want if
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: you want that, go get it. Tyler Creator said something
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: like that too. He says something along the lines of like, yo,
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• 15:13
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• 15:15
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's pure over here. So just
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: go listen to that, you know what I mean. And
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: if you're a favorite artist or whoever it is that
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: you supporting, ain't putting out anything else like that, And
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: then should I guess, go find another artist to listen to. Yes, Yeah,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: I also think too, like you gotta grow man like
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like you said, you've
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: seen places that you didn't see before you recorded your
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: first album, so you want to You've lived a lot
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: of life, you know what I mean? I have one
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. Yo, talk to me about your verse on
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Wild Thoughts, which is one of like it's probably my favorite.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: It's top three or four calid record for me. It's
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a fucking smash. Obviously you and re read going back
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: and forth. Your verse, though, is like the verse that
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: like if you're mixing on the air, like you have
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: to play that, Like your verse is the verse to play?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Really my verse get cut out or that's because people
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the DJs are lazy, the DJs that know, like you
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: got to kind of cut ahead into the record and
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: play the bric verse. I feel like your versus the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: quotables like, shout out to you man for playing I
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: know a lot of DJs that's the verse thing. I
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: feel like you got to you kind of like have
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the version where actually there's like in DJ Pools, there's
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: versions of that record where it's just the hook and
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: then your verse and then the hook and then it's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: you know for for DJs. Yeah. Interesting, you're not aware
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: about this about your own verse that it's like a thing. Yeah,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: classic verse, man, it was. It was an interesting for sure.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I thank you, but I just wish I wish you
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: could have went differently. But man, how could have gone differently?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And I just wish, I mean because I just need it.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, you know, get Rihanna's energy. I
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: didn't get to hear what she did. Well, I heard
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it through a FaceTime call, but like I wanted to
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: hear it. So what was the process of that record?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Like it was Party next Door? Who wrote the song?
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Party next I went to college place, we had dinner,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: invites me to the studio. I always tell him, was like, bro,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: you don't never have to give me a whole spiel
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: about a song, like you just played the song and
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: like go, But he always gives me this whole like
• 17:04
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• 17:07
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• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm honestly, you could just
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you have to say nothing like this is obviously a smash,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Thank you for even want
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: to include me. You said you want to put who
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: on to Rihanna? Oh yeah, definitely, thank you. But he
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: wanted He was like, Yo, we need the verse tonight though,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: or something like that, and I was just like, all right,
• 17:27
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• 17:29
  Speaker 1: have to pitch it up so you know what I mean?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Rihanna sings in a higher octave. He was like, now
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: we just need tonight and I was just like, all right, cool,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So I did the verse. But you know, when I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: writing the verse to like that matching parties energy, you
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's kind of hard to like
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: imagine what's going on. Like I would have just liked
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to do a little bit more vocals, you know what
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, probably would have changed a couple of lyrics. Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I just thought I was you know a song called
• 17:52
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• 17:54
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• 17:57
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• 18:00
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• 18:03
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• 18:05
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  Speaker 1: Now when are you getting this? When do we getting
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the album? Man? I was trying to you know, we
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was trying to get it out this year, but with
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: samples and stuff, you know how that goes. Yeah, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it's like, really, if you don't get it out by
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like next Friday, there's no point of I mean, the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: music industry shuts down, the sp guys are on vacation.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: It's it's really kind of hard to put an album
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  Speaker 1: out December exactly and get like the full impact that
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to have, you know, so you know, top
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: top of twenty February some I like probably February. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people come back from vacation like January sixth, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we'll see, So February, we'll see. I'm open to either
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: all right, January, February, March, It'll be February or March April.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know about January. January's also still kind of shaky.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Everyone's coming back from Vaca. You know, the music industry is.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: We're letting people behind the curtain a little here. Yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: are you? Are you? Like? For you, man, like what
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: is motivating like your creative process? Like what inspires you
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two? Is it your sun? Is it
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: just like being a fan of other music? Like what
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: inspires you? Like when you get into the booth, you
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  Speaker 1: have an idea, Like what is the main inspiration for
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you musically nowadays these days? Main inspiration? Sure for me? Man,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, I'm just so excited to just
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: give people experiences, like something that they can like attached
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to a memory that they have going on in life.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like that's kind of what I'm really what I really
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: care about right now, just giving them one song, just
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like you know, if you listen to my album, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: just want one song for you to just take and
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: just for you to live with. You know what I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: for you to be able to, like I said, attach
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: certain memories to it, Like oh I was at this place,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: or I was with this girl, you know what I mean.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: It's all the car about right now. I've been listening
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to a lot of different music that's inspiring me. Steve
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Lacey one of one of my favorites. You know, the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: new Drake twenty one Savage album. Amazing. I love that album.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of dope stuff. What's your album of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the year? My album of the year. Yeah, give me
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: three of them, how about that? So, I mean, I'll
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: probably say Steve Lacy just because you know, I love melody.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And then I would say to Drake twenty one, her
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: loss for sure, really already, you're gonna put her loss
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: up there that fast. You don't gonna let it marinate
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't need to. I just heard,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I heard it, and I just knew the best meme
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: action of the year that too, So that's the best.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: My son, who's fucking eight years old, not listening to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the album once sings that part. He'd be on TikTok
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and ship YouTube and I'm like, bro, how do you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: know this? He's like Drake' zesty dad, Hey yo, I'm like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: what that's crazy? Because it's that it's that that video
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: game clip where someone created Drake. What's the Avage of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Drake's Walking? Yeah, that is hilarious, But the album's classic though.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I love it. No, it's a great album, and I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: think Drake went in. Man, that Spinbouche record is so hard.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, they both snapped. I prefer this over.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I think this is my favorite Drake project since, uh,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: if you're reading this probably since if you're reading this,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it's too late. That's me too. Yeah, favorite, Yeah, same.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I always feel like when I listened to a Drake
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Album'm always anymore. But I feel like I listened to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this and I'm very I love twenty one Savage, so
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I just knew. I was like, Yo, this is gonna
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: be the Drake out I love. I just have it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: There's no way him and twenty one Savage and makes
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: some wax shit. It's just not I was so right.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I was like me and swam in the studio, just
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like ready for it. The drop soon as a drop.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Press play you got a relationship with Drake? Yeah, how's that? Cool?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Nice guy? Cool guy hews me fifty thousand dollars fifty
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: thousand for what we were hanging out of Harriet's at
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the bar. I was with Freddie Gibbs and this was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: two years ago when the Suns made it to the finals.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Shot to them, Phoenix Suns and Drake bet me fifty
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I said, fifty thousand dollars was the bet whether or
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: not the Sons or the Warriors would make it further
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that year. This was like maybe three three fourths of
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the way through the season. I got witnesses, credible witnesses.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Uh and uh yeah, man, just fucking no way to
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: get a hold of Drake. You know, I don't have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: his fucking number. I've DMed him like it was up
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: with my bread bruh. Yeah, I mean, damn, I'm never
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: gonna get my money. So when like he he made
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that two K bet on Twitch the other day with
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: twenty one savage, like, good luck ever getting that money.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like he has a problem gambling too. Set me. No,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I don't gamble, No, no, no, yea, that's smart. No
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: don gamble. Oh maybe on Mario Kart or something like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you gamble on Mario Cars Smash Ros Yeah, I will.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Are you excited for Super Nintendo Land at Universal coming? Yeah?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see who they do it. I would
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: rather go to like that. I think they're doing one.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I think they have one already over in like Tokyo
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: something like that. That'd be where you'd want to go.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: That's where I want to go because if you go
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to Tokyo. I'm not to answer your question no, because actually,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: now I think about it, because it's going to be
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: so everybody's going to be there. So I'll probably say
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: maybe I can rent out, rent it out for like years,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you're rich, but you can get pe tour. You know.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I went to Halloween horn Nights. Have you ever been there? No?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I never have. So the weekend had his own haunted house.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Oh for real? Yeah, Like he was like the main
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Universal Studios Halloween Hornights. She was like based around the weekend.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, and his house was the best one I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: expected it to be. Kind of what's scary about the weekend.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: There's some wild shit going on in there. Damn. It's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like being on a fucked up mushroom trip. While listening
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to his album Mushrooms Nah never Nah, I can't weed
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: has done some crazy things to me, Like I smoke
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: weed and then like I've been in like a weird
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: space my mental just sometimes I thought I was gonna
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: die like for U. So I was like, I don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: even want to try any other drug that's stronger. You
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: smoked weed, and I think it was like some Salvio
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: or some synthetic weed or something. One time, were you
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: smoking spice from a smoke shop? Nah? It was uh,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else? Na, Nah, it ain't it
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: ain't that it was something, but it had me for
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it really had me just tripping. So and then I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: did dabs one time. Dabs are crazy, Like music sounded
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: so horrible. I didn't want to hear nothing. Like every
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: time I heard a song, I was like, yo, please
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: turn this off. Like it just sounded like a dad
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: will melt your face off. Yeah, I couldn't stop cough.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: The worst shit though, is yeah they like it hits
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you different, it's crazy. But the worst ship is if
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you eat too much edibles. Oh yeah I did that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: One time I was working in UPS. It was will
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: How was ups? Ups? Your UPS is hiring shot to bigger?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You know? How was that for you? Job? Regular job?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I was working at part time throughout the year. I
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  Speaker 1: worked there for two years. I enjoyed it, you know
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: what I mean? I like stacking the boxes up, you
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was just working in the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: fact thorugh truck, loading the trucks, loading the trucks up,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: just all the way. You don't always wonder as somebody
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: who may or may not have put weed in the
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: mail and sent it out do the UPS guys, like
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: if did you ever find any like packs? Nah? Never,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But was it like a thing where like maybe like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you guys would talk like a if a box opens
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: up and it's some weed, we could just take it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I probably would have. I ain't gonna lie because that's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the thing, right if you send like pounds of weed
• 26:51
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• 26:55
  Speaker 1: UPS or FedEx, it's not the federal government. The drivers
• 26:59
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• 27:02
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• 27:06
  Speaker 1: money too. Yeah, we've had some some situations like outside
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: of UPS, any other crazy jobs you've you've had before
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you were Penn Griffy crazy jobs? Not really. I worked
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  Speaker 1: them for a moving company. That was like my first
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: time like being in like expensive houses. That was really cool,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: getting like one hundred dollars tips and whatnot. That it's
• 27:24
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• 27:30
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• 27:39
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• 27:41
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• 27:44
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  Speaker 1: back to the interview. So a new album coming hopefully
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  Speaker 1: by February March something like April. Any other features coming soon?
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  Speaker 1: Uh man. I've been working on trying to get these features.
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  Speaker 1: Then there's a lot of people that's been like waiting
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  Speaker 1: known verse. I can't lie, but I've been trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell them it's dog shit. You tell the dog shit?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: What if they're well, actually not, I don't tell mis dogsho.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I tell you what I like about it first. It
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: just depends. Some people are like, Yo, will you get
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: on this song? If that's the question, I might just
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: say I don't think this is the one? What else
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you got? You know what I'm saying. But if they say, hey,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: what do you think about this song? And I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: it's dog shit? Like, I'm gonna giving them my feedback.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But was like, if it's like a dog shit record? Right,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: But they're like, double your feet? Are you still getting
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: on the dog shit? No? That's good, Brandon. Integrity is important.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Not anybody can just buy a Brice and televerse right exactly.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Anybody out of your hometown that you're a fan of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that we'd like to share. Shine the light on right
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: now somebody who's yeah, I mean with those names we
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: named earlier Jack. Other than that, I mean like up
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and coming people shout out to Mars, really dope singer
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: from Mobile. There's this other kid that my boy Swan
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: showed me. Called his name's Platinum super dope dope voice
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: nah Man as this other kid, I forget his name,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: but my boy just sent him to me recently. But
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I like his stuff. He'd be around Jack, so I'm sure.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you hear about him at some point. Would
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you and Jack Harlowe ever do a joint like Louisville
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Sluggers album that was so fucking corny? I'm sorry, maybe
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a joint out not at all. Were planning on doing
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it a little while ago, but he caught me in
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the middle of depression, so like, I just wasn't in
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that mental space to even do that, So I ended
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: up not going to Atlanta like we originally planned. And yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: how do you deal with depression? Man? Because a lot
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: of people they keep it inside and then you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: they end up turning to unhealthy ship some people like it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Did you go to therapy? Did you? For me? I mean,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: play a lot more video games. But that's what Vlad
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: said on Twitter that went viral. He said, people who
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: play a certain amount of video games, Like if you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: play more than like four hours a day or something,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: he said, it's a form of depression. M M. What
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: does he know? Does he play video games? I don't know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Just how you know it went viral, I don't know.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: But so you you kind of dived into video games
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a lot more. Yeah, yeah, that's what I do. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: try to read as much as I can, but like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you know, other than that, man, I just try to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: get off of the fake world, which is like you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Instagram and social media period disconnect. You know what point
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: where I didn't have instagarme for like five months or
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: something like that, I was just were you happier when
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you didn't have it? Was super happy? Yeah, because I
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: didn't think about it or even care. You know. Then Twitter,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: like I would keep it on a certain device, so
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: if I ever wanted to use it, I had to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: go get this device like a laptop actually, and then
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: use my laptop to get on Twitter. You know. So
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: just like little things like that that helped me not
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: think about certain stuff. But yeah, I think like when
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you're in our industry, like it's really easy to kind
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of like get wrapped up in like comparing yourself to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: your peers all the time. Right, It's like you open
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: your phone and you see like and that somehow that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: kind of fucks with what you think your self worth is. Yeah?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Does that? Yeah? And then like you know, I can
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: only imagine you. You got this super microphone on Twitter
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and ig people leaving comments, tweet natchur whether it's good
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: or bad, like if you see it, even if you
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: don't think, you take it in subconsciously. You take that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: shit in, you know, yeah exactly, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: definitely subconsciously. But I don't even care these days. It's
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: just like when I see people just who just say
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: just the most negative things, like I just like, I'll
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: get messages sometimes a d M, a dude just going
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: in going crazy, like Yo, you fell off so bad.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I used to be a fan of you, but not anymore,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and I'll just be like, I love you, bro. Well,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: first of all, you didn't. I'd like to put it
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: out you only have two albums, Okay, yeah that's or
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: it is three three third one of twenty twenty yeight. Yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: but like yo, like listen, man, yeah, you're fucking your
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Brison Tiller. Don't forget it, bro, No, I appreciate it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Nah that it don't phase me. It used to phase me,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I used to phase me a lot.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: But now I just like, I just let him know
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that I love them, because like, if you're gonna type
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: this message up and take all this time to type
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: this messa up, you really actually loved me? Because was that?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Would you say that you would like you used to,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like you used to like really let that shit get
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, definitely definitely got to me. Yeah, for sure.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's like the gift. I think you just
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: got to push through that, ship man, because a lot
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of the great artists have gone through that when you
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: got a fucking classic album that kicks kicks off your career,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: fucking Snoop dog Man that like he'd put out The
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: dog Father and I think ninety six his first time
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: was Doggie style. Don't give a fuck about The dog
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Father because it wasn't Doggie style. Yeah. I just think
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you just got to just keep dropping, bro, keep going.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Are you are you penning stuff for other people or
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you just I'm trying. Yeah, Yeah, I'm definitely trying. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like doing that it's easier because like just to be
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: able to go to the studio and cut a reference
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: rather than trying to like sit there for I'm super meticulous,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: so like sit there for hours and like correct every
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: vocal that's annoying. Yeah, I'm sure if you cut a reference,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like a super rough so you don't
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: have to worry. You're just like, hey, this is the idea,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the idea you're going here, you make it super magic. Yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, what's the last project you helped write on?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Last project I helped write on, Man, it's been a minute,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Chris Brown's album Royalty. That was the last time I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: worked on somebody else's stuff. I might be missing somebody,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but uh yeah, it was a long time ago. What
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: would be your advice, because you're obviously introvert, would you say, yeah,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: what would be your advice for somebody who's also an
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: introvert and it has a problem kind of breaking out
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: of their shell in terms of maybe like wanting to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: be in the music industry or just wanting to kind
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of like be in an industry in which it can
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: be a little bit harder being an introvert. I would say,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you know, just to remember that, like if you're comfortable,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like you're not, you're not growing at all. So it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: just like same shit with the gym, Like you gotta
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: be uncomfortable to like really grow. So like you want
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to always try to try to stay just beyond your
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: comfort zone, you know what I mean. If you realize
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that you're super comfortable and you're not in the right place,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like just try to go a little bit, take a
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: couple of steps further, you know what I mean, say
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that before we let you go, give me your mount
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: rushmore of R and B music. Somebody just asked me this,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be easy Usher, Chris Brown, the Dream, Oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: only to pick four four four, okay, and that last person,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give that to Frank Ocean. Yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna go oor Kelly on us.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: He probably number five. Yeah, he's number one, you know
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But yeah, but for obvious reasons, you know, yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I would definitely you know, he got he got some gems.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's R Kelly, but he's also R Kelly. Yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, chill out. I mean, he's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the greatest R and B artist in my lifetime. He
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: also is a flaming piece of dog shit as a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: human being. That doesn't mean I don't listen to Bump
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and Grind, you know what I mean? You gotta separate.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Can you separate the art from the artist in life?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: In general? I can't. Yeah, I'm one of the few
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: people that can do that. Lot I can't for sure,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of people can't do that. But I'm just like, bro,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I'll be in my car sometimes bumping, like are the album?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And my wife be like, what the fuck is one?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Why are you listening to half on a baby? He's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: talking about a kid. I'm like, because it's I don't know.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think about that ship. I think about when
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I was fourteen and I bought this album, and like, yeah,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of artists. Could you listen to a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer album if it was fire? No? No, no,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't know him first. So like if I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: would have known, like if there was like a story
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: about like Robert Kelly pissing on little girls right, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't know he made music? They were just like
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Robert Kelly and they had a Netflix series about him
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and then and then then a lot of people are
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: learning his music through that, and then twelve Play leaked.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, damn man sucks. Like, you know, I
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't even listen to if Jeffreydahmer dropped an album, like,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: well he's dead now, right, but if he dropped the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: album today, Uh, it probably would go gold, which is
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: crazy because people are gonna just go listen to sick.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: But if it was, if it was great, I wouldn't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: care yet Jeffrey, do did you watch the show? A
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: little bit of it? I just can't get into that
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: type of ship. Yeah what what? What? What shows do
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you get into? Anime? And I don't really watch too
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: much TV, to be honest, Like I'm more so like
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: on Twitch, like watching my favorite gamers, just like who
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: are your favorite gamers? Nice wig my boy dog shout
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: out to Nick Merks, you know he made the switch
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: from Call of Duty. We still plays card but you know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you know apex with It, shout out with my boy
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Noco Puff, shout out my boy term K forty seven.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of like your Netflix is like watching
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: dudes game. Yeah that's tight. I uh it sounded weird
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: when the way you said it though. Yeah, well, I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: mean there's a bar in Bourbank. It's called the Guild
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I think, and if you go in there, it's like
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a gamer bar. It's very small, it's like a hole
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: in the wall. Where is it Burbank, Yeah, it's in Bourbank.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And they have instead of like you know, when you
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: go to a sports bar or any bar, usually they
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: have like video or they have like sports on the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: TV or ESPN or whatever. Oh yeah, this is like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: every TV is just a different live Twitch stream and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: there's like board games. I want to pull up to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the so me and my wife went in there to
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: drink once and I was like, yo, is this live?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He's like yeah, every TV is a different guy playing, right.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this fucking lit. That's crazy. Hey, we got
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• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Grizzley kind of revolutionizing the whole absolutely, you know, absolutely.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Are you ever watching with his look playing thing? Yeah?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I watch some times. I'd be tuning in. Would you
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: ever do the role playing thing? I would maybe a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: great character they kill you. No, I understand, I'm probably wait.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I'll probably wait to the next GTA to do some
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: role play. Yeah, you know, I know that GTA five
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: has like a long lifespan, but yeah, I would do that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So when you like watch Apex guys play, are you
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: like you're just like you're entertained by it or you're
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: like trying to pick up on technique that and I'm
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: also entertained just like people like Dall two like just
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: keep you entertained the whole time, talking shit. Funny, funny guy,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? A lot of energy, you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: are you because you've kind of chilled out a little
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: bit on Twitter in terms of playing right, Yeah, I've
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: been focused on the album. Yeah, but I'm back to
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it for the holidays. I'm about to finish up here.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm in the studio, locked in, trying to get it
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: done so I can get back to the game. You
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: are a big gamer. What would you say? Since you
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: already answered the R and B question for someone else,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: give me your top five video games, Top five videos
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: all time of all time? Any console, Grand Theft Auto, Like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I can't pick one specific title. I just got to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: say Grand Theftought, Grand Theft thoughts a franchise. First two
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Apex Legends, okayex Legends. I mean, as much as I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: hate to say it, you know call of duty. You know,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you just gotta you know, call of duty. You know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: everybody knows what is. I can never get into like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: two K anything like that. But uh man far cried three.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Smash Bros. Smash Bros. For sure, Smash Bros. Solid, huh
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Metal Girl Solid. That was a PlayStation game Rocket PlayStation
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: right you Solid? I really know? Were you like a
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Nintendo guy? I know the characters? Yeah, I was a
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Nintendo guy. Yeah, Sega, you ever had the Dreamcast? Yeah?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I never owned the Dreamcast, but I played it before,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: played a couple of Sonic games or whatever. Yeah, yeah, straight,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So no Super Mario, Yeah I play Yeah, I played
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Super Mario plays old on the switch. Yeah. Okarina time
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: on Nintendo sixty four one sixty four on the one,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: but the arena time was that? Yeah? That was got
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I think that was the gold cartridge yep, yeah, that ship.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And then my favorite Mario is Mario sixty four, even
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: though I know that everyone likes the one of Super
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Nintendo the most, but I think Mario sixty four was crazy. No,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I love that one too. That was one I got
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the most memories with, for sure. It was three and
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: GoldenEye on sixty four was fucking oh yes, classic as well.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah you get that gold gun yep, fucking then one
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: hitters spent a minute. I played it recently. It wasn't
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: as Yeah, it didn't age well, and you know, they
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: tried to bring it back. I think, like a couple
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: of consoles Ago and I sought it out and I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: played it and I was like, fuck, this ship was
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: not that tight. It was it was that ship and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: it was Do you remember they came out with a
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: game called Perfect Dark in Perfect Dark, yeah, and Perfect
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Dark was kind of like the same type of maps
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: as GoldenEye, but like in this like other world. Yeah,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: and yeah, those games did not age the best because
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: now you have Call of Duty. But if they did
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: like a Golden Eye, like but just use the whole
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Call of Duty engine, it could be fire. But those
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: guns could do it was like you had a barretta
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: k Like these guns on these games now these days
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: are fucking insane. Yeah, Golden feels more like a party
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: game to me now these days, not really a game
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: and everyone's hanging out. Everybody, Yeah, let's throw on. I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: got a sixty four. We can hook up. It's not competitive,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure, that was some competitiveness. We could play
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: what was that one crash crash Crash bandicoots on PlayStation?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: What was the bang band? What was the banjo and z? Yes? Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I just played that a lot too. You ever played
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Glover Man? No? What about Earthworm Gym? Yes? Of course? Okay,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: all right, so you a gamer the south Park game
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: on sixty four he started a piss You had a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: pissy snowballs right, so fire. Yeah. I love that game
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: and I gonna bring that back for sure. Nitro the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: n W versus w CW rest Oh okay, yeah, that's classic. Yeah,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: sixty four. I was more in the No Mercy that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: was a black Cat was amazing. Yeah, No, sixty four
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: it's he It's crazy because there was like like when
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, I didn't own a sixty four,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: but my best friend had one. I had to PlayStation,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: so I'd like the best of both worlds. So when
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: he comes to spend the night being sixty four before
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: we get a popping, I would have like metal gear
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: solid and you know, fucking twisted metal and on it
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: metal class. Great game. Yeah, well listen man, new music
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: coming soon. The singles out right now. The ditty singles
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: going crazy. Hopefully we'll get the album in the next
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: three or four months, Yes, sir, put the samples are you?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Yeah, a lot of samples on the album,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: not not that many, just just enough. Yeah, anything else
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that you got going on? You want a plug? Ah, man,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that's it, that's it it. Go subscribe on your Twitch. Yeah,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: go subscribe to twitch. God tilla g A W D
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: T I L l A. And then also, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: you should probably try to get some sort of like
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  Speaker 1: a partnership with these Apex fucks you've been you love
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the game, somebody we work. Yeah, they let me play
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: test all the time. What is that sports respawn and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: e but they let me play. They let me play
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: test new legends, like really, three seasons out, you're already
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: tapped in and tapped in. Yeah, yeah, I think you
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: might be the biggest Apex fan in music, absolutely, because
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: everybod else who comes up here post malone think he
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: might be a bigger Apex fan than me. But who's better?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm better? What you guys play? Charge? No, I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: never played him, but he don't want to. He don't
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: want it with me, post Mylon. You don't want it
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: with me. Brothers, we get a challenge going absolutely because
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you know how you are getting. Yeah, I don't drink
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: beerd or that's what yeah beers for for what? I
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna say it. Just say it, Just say it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You stick the beer poem beers for Huh, it's for
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: post Malone. It ain't for Bryson Tiller, no beer at all.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I don't drink beer. What about a Seltzer. I don't
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: even like Seltzer's. You won't drink a white Claw? Oh okay.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: If I have a white claw and a Corona next
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: to each other and I had to pick which one
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you picking up, I'll probably pick up the corona, just
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: because you know they got more history in this world.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: What are we talking about? I don't know historical purposes
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the corona. Respect, respect corona, white claw. Now see, I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: drink white Claw and people say it's because I'm like,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it's like yo, I'm a bitch, Like yo, you're a bitch.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: That's a bitch drink you know what I'm saying some
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: real shit. And I'm like, no, I'm trying to work
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: on my figure. It's only there's no sugar in there,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you know what. I mean no carbs. You drinker corona.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It's like two hundred and thirty calories. I mean anyway,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: we'll look appreciate you pulling up. Man, it's untiling my guy.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Look forward to the new music. Much love,