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6-16-26 Hour 2 - Nuggets championship odds/Avalanche championship odds/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: No No, we had this role in All Day yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm rocking. No we stop, please stop for one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no you shut up? You shut up.
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  Speaker 2: You make a request, no shut up? Shut is mi
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  Speaker 2: cough you let this breathe. This is my request.
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  Speaker 3: You honor it.
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  Speaker 2: Damn right.
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  Speaker 4: I like this DM mix of this.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is house music, yacht house.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not even Michael McDonald. I know a different singer.
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  Speaker 4: Shut your face, get off the air.
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  Speaker 2: This is good.
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  Speaker 3: This a lot, but it's not the it's not the
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  Speaker 3: real song. I don't matter what's real.
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  Speaker 2: So good All Day yesterday, Brett all Day blasted.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that.
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  Speaker 2: I love this song. You know what, it's even better
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  Speaker 2: with the house music. No it is, yes, it is,
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  Speaker 2: yes it is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I hate this show.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I hate this program.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd say it's better, but I
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  Speaker 4: certainly love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it, love it.
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  Speaker 2: I raise your reckless use of playing music to that.
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  Speaker 3: I love this song, but it's not the real song.
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  Speaker 3: It's a cover cover, house music cover.
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  Speaker 4: Who cares, there's a wait, what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I care?
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  Speaker 4: What's the Elton John song that had like a cover
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  Speaker 4: like this so as popular? Come on now, he helped
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  Speaker 4: me hear the music guy.
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  Speaker 5: At Elton John house remix or.
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  Speaker 4: No, maybe Elton John was just no, it was Elton
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  Speaker 4: John joined some new singer lady.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he did it with du a lipa.
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  Speaker 4: What was that song?
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but they used they sampled, uh, rocketman
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  Speaker 5: on the hook.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that was it, the rocketmand hook. Hold on second motion, moser,
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  Speaker 2: you're making fun of covers. Didn't you go to a
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  Speaker 2: deaf Lepperd cover band vigil it was?
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  Speaker 3: It was no, no, yeah, it was no, it was
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  Speaker 3: not deaf Lepperd. It was actually Fleetwood Mac okay, so
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  Speaker 3: and it was. When you're making fun of this, okay,
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  Speaker 3: time out. What I'm trying to tell you is that
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  Speaker 3: some covers are awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I love them. Oh, I see, your covers are awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So this is not awesome because you don't like house music.
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  Speaker 4: That sure does say the irony of getting mad mos
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  Speaker 4: you're getting mad at a song we're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: True, it's ironic, isn't it. It's like rain on your
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  Speaker 3: wedding day?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 4: So these poly markets and calses and I'm still not
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  Speaker 4: sure exactly what they are. But the thing I like
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  Speaker 4: about this calcy thing. You know, when we talk about odds,
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  Speaker 4: it's always like, oh, the Nuggets are twenty five to one.
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  Speaker 4: It's like hard to put into context. This is by percentage.
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  Speaker 4: It makes it a little bit easier by percentage. The
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  Speaker 4: early favorite to win the twenty twenty seven NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 4: Who's the number one team on this list?
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City?
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma City is correct. They garner twenty eight percent. Who's second?
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  Speaker 2: San Antonio?
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  Speaker 4: San Antonio is correct? They just by the way, they
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  Speaker 4: garner twenty five percent. So we're already at fifty three
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  Speaker 4: percent of who you think is going to win next year.
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  Speaker 4: Over half that pie is split between the Thunder and
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: And these are just random people.
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  Speaker 3: This is just people.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't going against a book. This is people
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  Speaker 4: basically betting against each other. Is what the site does.
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  Speaker 4: Got so the next two, third and fourth place are tied,
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  Speaker 4: So I guess tied for third Knicks, yep at fifteen percent, and.
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  Speaker 2: God, who would be the fourth? Nuggets gotta be up there,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if they're fourth or I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's the Nuggets. Who would be the fourth? Best
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  Speaker 2: odds to win the title next season, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Tied with the Knicks is another Eastern Conference team, Boston Boston,
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  Speaker 4: so they're built that white team, which is curious. Why
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  Speaker 4: why would Boston, who was also eliminated in the first
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  Speaker 4: round get the benefit of that doubt Because if the
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  Speaker 4: Knicks don't do it, healthy Tatum and Jalen Brown, is
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  Speaker 4: probably the best team in the East.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the.
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets are next in that list, they're fifth, But remember
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  Speaker 4: it was twenty eight percent for the thunder, twenty five
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  Speaker 4: percent for the Spurs, fifteen apiece for the Celtics, and
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  Speaker 4: the Nuggets are read see five percent.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's crazy about this, right, our feelings about the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, I went to remind me
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  Speaker 2: to tell you about the event I went to last
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  Speaker 2: night honoring dougmo In the amount of former Nuggets coaches
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  Speaker 2: and players I ran into, it was like it was
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  Speaker 2: like walking into my childhood. I saw I saw the picture, Vickers,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was an awesome real it turnout to
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  Speaker 2: honor the late great dougmo at Big Bill's New York Pizza.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's do more of that in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Here little we'll get into that I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you about. Isn't it interesting how we deemed the
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets season obviously a disappointment? We all agree on that,
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  Speaker 2: the way it ended, obviously obviously, and yet they're held
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  Speaker 2: in high regards still still without knowing what you just said,
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  Speaker 2: they're the fifth best odds. There are thirty teams in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: That is true. But let me tell you this Thunder
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  Speaker 4: twenty eight percent, Spurs, twenty five Celtics, Nicks, fifteen, Nuggets,
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  Speaker 4: five t Wolves, four Calves, Pistons, Warriors, Rockets, Pacers, Lakers,
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  Speaker 4: heat at three, So they're in the same ball of those.
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  Speaker 4: They are way more in that category than they are.
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  Speaker 2: In the top four. But according to the numbers, right,
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  Speaker 2: because the numbers never lie, who has the fifth best
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  Speaker 2: odds to numbers? Ten?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So take yourself back to last year at this
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  Speaker 2: point last year in the offseason, where do you think
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  Speaker 2: the Knicks stood in odds to win the championship. Going
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  Speaker 2: into next season, they had around the same place.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere right around there, I would say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably around the same place, right you know, And
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  Speaker 4: that exists question to me, Number one, I think all
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  Speaker 4: of that feels pretty accurate that the Nuggets are no
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  Speaker 4: longer in that upper tier of like thunder Spurs, Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: They aren't that anymore. They're they're farther. They're closer to
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  Speaker 4: where they're at right now, which is the t Wolves, Lakers,
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  Speaker 4: Rockets category. But here's the main question for something that
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  Speaker 4: I mean, every year for the last few years, the
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets have been in that upper echelon. This year they
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  Speaker 4: aren't quite there right now. I heard Kreikman Lindell talking
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  Speaker 4: about this. They did the game of what do the
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  Speaker 4: Knicks have that the Nuggets don't and all the things
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  Speaker 4: that we talked about. Right Well, they have the fine
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  Speaker 4: role players who play their roles really well. They're are
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  Speaker 4: good defensively. They have a lot of depth guys that
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  Speaker 4: they can trust coming off the bench. You know what
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  Speaker 4: Kreikman said, maybe the easiest answer health the Knicks were healthy,
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  Speaker 4: you weren't. And I think, if anything, the most crucial
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  Speaker 4: question that needs to be answered for the Nuggets heading
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  Speaker 4: into this offseason is if this team was healthy, do
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  Speaker 4: you think they were good enough? And if the answer
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  Speaker 4: is yes, then you can get away with maybe making
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  Speaker 4: a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Of tweaks this off season.
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  Speaker 4: I think if the answers no, I think you gotta
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  Speaker 4: go pretty seismic shift.
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  Speaker 3: Well with the reaction Vick, with the reaction at the
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  Speaker 3: news conference following the Nuggets season, I think they think
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  Speaker 3: healthy they were either good enough or right there to
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  Speaker 3: give it a shot. You know what I mean? I
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  Speaker 3: think that, and I don't necessarily disagree with that. It's
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  Speaker 3: kind of a question you can't answer. But I do
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  Speaker 3: know this that a healthy Aaron Gordon in a healthy
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  Speaker 3: pe Watt makes a huge frigging difference, huge difference. Huge.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the issue. You can't just bring them all back.
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  Speaker 2: You can't like Tim Hardway Junior is not going to
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  Speaker 2: play for the Denver Nuggets. Does everybody realize that, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: barring something crazy, your best shooter off the bench, you're
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  Speaker 2: sixth Man of the Year candidate. The guy who rescued
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  Speaker 2: you on many occasions is not going to play for
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  Speaker 2: the team next season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's why we're saying tweak.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to replace that, and that's not
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  Speaker 2: an easy replacement. Jonas Valancenis say what you want about him.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't get the minutes that a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: desired him getting in the playoffs. Highly highly almost imp
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  Speaker 2: He's not going to play for you next season.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's the nugget side. But do you want to
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  Speaker 3: do your little uh.
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  Speaker 4: Well, just let's do this. Sure, let's do the in
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  Speaker 4: like five minutes. I want to get more time.
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  Speaker 3: That's no problem.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So you're missing those two players and you're you're saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets are going to run it back. How do
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  Speaker 2: you run it back with the same run. You're not
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  Speaker 2: going to have the same run, Vick.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm trying to tell you is that with a
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  Speaker 3: healthy Aaron Gordon, and if Peyton Watson is somehow re
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  Speaker 3: signed and is healthy as well, I think hardaway juniors
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  Speaker 3: make a difference. I think, you know, Valentiunis makes a difference,
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  Speaker 3: even though he didn't play a ton, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it helps. What I'm trying to tell you is I
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  Speaker 3: think with those guys that that we're missing, you're not
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  Speaker 3: going to miss a hard away or valentiunis nearly as much,
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  Speaker 3: and you can get role players to come in and.
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  Speaker 2: Beat those guys. Disagree, I think you miss a hardaway immenseally.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree wholeheartedly.
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  Speaker 3: I say not. I didn't say you didn't miss them.
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  Speaker 3: You may say whole hardly. I say not as much.
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  Speaker 2: Who's your backup center? You don't have one? So he
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  Speaker 2: plays the five when Jokers out of the game, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but he.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't hardly play anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Is the point during the regular season he did. He
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  Speaker 2: got eighty two games to fill.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Holmes, get a seven foot yeah, somebody, somebody
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  Speaker 3: to come in and play eight minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Vic.
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  Speaker 4: I've decided internally, I Am not going to worry about
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  Speaker 4: backup center because they don't seem to care about it
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  Speaker 4: when the games matter either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, they do for the Knicks. The Knicks play
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  Speaker 2: a backup center.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the Knicks don't have Joker, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, but that's they have two guys they play them.
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  Speaker 4: But the Nuggets don't, and they have multiple coaching staffs.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't done it in the best backup center by
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  Speaker 4: talent that you've had in essentially the entire Joker era
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  Speaker 4: didn't be close.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I'm saying all this is I still think
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  Speaker 2: they're better off trading one of their big contracts.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's totally fair.
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  Speaker 2: That's my opinion, and they may think different. They may say, nah,
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  Speaker 2: one more year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's here's the thing, though, big I think I
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  Speaker 4: think by.
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  Speaker 2: They're two top heavy.
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  Speaker 4: Still I'm I don't disagree. Here's what I tell you.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's two routes to this offseason. One is
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  Speaker 4: the tweak route that hey, if AG and Pea Water
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  Speaker 4: healthy in the postseason, then we make a run for
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  Speaker 4: a championship. And that's the missing stuff that we needed
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  Speaker 4: because even losing Tim Hardaway junior Peyton Watson coming off
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  Speaker 4: the bench, or him starting for Cam Johnson, Cam Johnson
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  Speaker 4: coming off the bench, whatever, if you want to just
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  Speaker 4: throw money into some aprons and say I think this
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  Speaker 4: team is good enough, they can. If you don't think that,
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  Speaker 4: and I think, judging by some of the rumors that
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing in this offseason about Cam Johnson and Aaron
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  Speaker 4: Gordon's name being out there, that they don't. The seismic
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  Speaker 4: shift that I'm talking about is Jamal. That's the one, Like,
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  Speaker 4: if you don't think this is good enough. They did
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  Speaker 4: this already. We traded a core piece last year in
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  Speaker 4: Michael Porter Jr. But core piece was what in translation,
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  Speaker 4: it was your fourth guy, right, it was it was
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  Speaker 4: your fourth dude. That's that's a big trade. But that's
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  Speaker 4: not really shaking things up. There was a role play.
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  Speaker 3: Jamal Jamal would be really that would be shaking things sure,
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  Speaker 3: that would be. But then the problem is, okay, you
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  Speaker 3: do that. This is your step back year, Vic, like
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  Speaker 3: you call it. Even though the Nuggets for the top
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  Speaker 3: of the tier to win, but you're still that still
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  Speaker 3: doesn't deal with the issue of whether or not Eron
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  Speaker 3: Gordon can stay healthy or you're gonna resign Peyton Watson.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be able to, for crying out loud.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say the uh, the the Nuggets for some reason
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  Speaker 2: step to the repeater tax, they resigned Peyton Watson and
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  Speaker 2: keep the core of this team intact. They don't trade
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  Speaker 2: away any of those contracts. Let's say Peyton Watson's on
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  Speaker 2: the team. Sure with these others, who's their bench?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an excellent question, Vic.
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  Speaker 2: People keep saying run it back and they'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: No they're not, And I keep the bench is gone.
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  Speaker 3: It's like yoom poof, And I keep saying Peyton Watson's
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  Speaker 3: gonna get paid and he is by somebody, Oh who
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  Speaker 3: is he? What is his what is his ultimate potential?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it would be because we.
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  Speaker 3: Seem to think it's through the moon. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that it is.
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  Speaker 2: You realize that if you re signed Peyton Watson and
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  Speaker 2: keep the core intact, you realize the rest of your
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  Speaker 2: roster is minimum players.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well well yes, yes, but it's minimum with Zeke
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  Speaker 4: Naji is still gonna be here, Julian Strather is still
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  Speaker 4: gonna be here. Doron Holmes is still gonna be here, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Spencer Jones, I mean I don't think he's getting ten
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  Speaker 4: million dollars this year if.
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  Speaker 2: They sign, if they resigned Payton Watson, Spencer Jones not
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  Speaker 2: being resigned, Well, what's.
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  Speaker 4: Spencer Jones gonna get in the open market?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean they have to pay him a minimum
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  Speaker 2: because he signed his deal during this there's a minimum
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  Speaker 2: contract there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can sign guys to minimums. You can.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you just for the record, Vic like
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  Speaker 4: that was four guys, yeah, four guys off the bench
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  Speaker 4: right there.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, just saying, okay, if you're comfortable with that, and
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  Speaker 2: I have no problem. I think Julian Strather has a
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  Speaker 2: chance to really become something if it gets consistent minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I really do they desperately Doron Holmes? They need Doron
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  Speaker 2: Holmes to be in this rotation. Yeah, right, he has
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  Speaker 2: to be in the rotation.
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  Speaker 4: So so just answer your question, Vick. If they were
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  Speaker 4: to do that repeater tax all that stuff you're starting five,
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  Speaker 4: let's just say, is Jamal Christian cam Ag Joker off
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  Speaker 4: the bench? Would be Watson?
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  Speaker 2: Just just Peyton Watson. You're not going to sign Peyton
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  Speaker 2: Watson his big number and bring him.
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  Speaker 3: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, then flip him and Cam around whatever. I'm in
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  Speaker 4: whatever order we're talking about here, that Theron Holmes, Julian Strather.
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  Speaker 4: Who else did I mention Strather? Zeke Spencer Jones if
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  Speaker 4: you get him at a minimum.
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  Speaker 2: David Roddy can sign at a minimum.
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  Speaker 4: David Roddy like you could. You could do it. And
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  Speaker 4: in that model, you're probably going with an eight man
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  Speaker 4: playoff rotation anyway, which is what they usually do.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to look this up. I can't I can't
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  Speaker 3: not look it up. Hang on. See in regards to Zeke,
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  Speaker 3: Zeke is been here for one, two, three, four, five,
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  Speaker 3: six seasons and he is eventually going to lead the
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  Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets leave them, and I'm and maybe it's after
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  Speaker 3: eight years of being a Denver nugget and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: go I still don't know who the hell that guy is.
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  Speaker 4: But he would be in this in this scenario, which
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  Speaker 4: I don't agree with, by the way, but just hypothetically,
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  Speaker 4: in this scenario, he would be a warm body come up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's still a guy that you is gonna
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  Speaker 3: have a eight year career as a Denver nugget and
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  Speaker 3: I'm still not gonna know who he is or what
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  Speaker 3: he is. It's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, it's cra It's it's crazy. But the other
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  Speaker 4: thing I think you can do, like, yeah, you can
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  Speaker 4: trade cam or you can trade ag or whatever. But
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm kind of at the point of
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  Speaker 4: if you're gonna do that, if you're gonna shake things up,
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  Speaker 4: then shake it up, then really do it. Give yourself
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  Speaker 4: some capital to work with whatever, and and find a
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  Speaker 4: way to make it at happen.
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  Speaker 3: What is he a big said fall off? Sure? What
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  Speaker 3: do you think you need to do? You need to
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  Speaker 3: shake it up?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, shake it up, all right?
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Shake it up? No, no, no, shake it up.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I want to I want to try the same thing
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: because most you do have the odds on the.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: ABS, I sure do, Okay, so I have the Hey, Brett,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I got the Hodds on the whole league.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, So we'll get there in just a second. Kind
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: of do the same thing with the ABS. Next Texter says,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: what do you think of Zeke? Zeke's a good kid,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: that's what he is.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Vic I don't know what to think of Zeke.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Nobody knows. The Nuggets don't know.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: The guy's played twelve minutes a night for his career.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: When he play, Yeah, when he plays, I don't. I
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: don't know. Forty one fifty three, fifty eight fifty, I mean,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: he doesn't.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I want to get to the ABS. So the the
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Nuggets are are technically fifth according to Calshi in odds
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: to win the NBA title next year. Now it's a
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: steep drop off from the top four on that list,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: but they are technically in fifth place. Now, Moos, I
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: want to hear what you got for the Aps. What
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: are we looking at with them, or we can play
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the guessing game if you'd like.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I you know what, I like the guessing game. And
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: this is across to virtually every book, Okay, I mean
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the ones that I've seen this. It's the same at
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: every book. I'm gonna say, hold on, First of all,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: what's the last team to win the Stanley Cup. There's
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: two teams tied at plus fifty thousand?
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Oh like the worst in the league, is it?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: It's Vancouver and Calgary.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, both plus.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Fifty Okay, so you've bet one hundred bucks to win
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: But his first place, I'm gonna say first place is
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: not Carolina.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: It is Carolina.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: It is Carolina.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I got are the second?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Still? Bick? What's your guests?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: God, I would say the Aves are favored, the.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Abs are second.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have crossed all books.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: And there's there's a texture that tried to do a
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: little bit earlier. It's all the usual suspects. Golden Knights
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: are third, uh Florida and the Oilers are tied at fourth. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Lightning are sixth. Then comes Minnesota, Dallas, Ottawa, Montreal, Buffalo,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the Ducks. Then you go on and off. But the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: usual suspects, the usual suspects are at the top.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Because the seasons just tended. Free agency hasn't arrived, trades
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: haven't happened, the draft isn't here. I mean, this all
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: changes in a month.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe it does. But the ninety four to
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: nine who just keeps on texting in for god knows
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: what reason, says these odds are a joke. The Aves
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: have been top too for four years now. They haven't
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: even been close to winning. First of all, First of all,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: First of all, the odds are set by the betting public,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: people with their money. Same with Calcy though, right, it's
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the money that comes in from people. It's not Hey,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: hockey experts think the Abs are the second best team
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to win, you know they're gonna win. That's not how
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it works. It's where the money. It's what people do
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: with their with their bread, where their money is, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: if money comes in on another team, their odds will
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: go up or go down. I mean you see what
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I mean. Like, if a boatload of money comes in
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: on Carolina at plus seven hundred right now, they'll go
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: to plus six hundred to try to balance things out.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: That's what the books do this is people with their
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: money number two not even close to winning.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I would argue this year they were close to winning.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, I don't know what Carolina was always
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: a top three team.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a cup close to Liddy for seven years. No
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: they didn't. They got bounced every year, one capacity to another.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: First second, what were the offense final?
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: But what were they? By the way, were they one
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: in twelve in conference finals under Britimore? Right? One in twelve?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: So that two and twelve and one five game series?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Correct?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: But you know what I know, nobody cares and whatever.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, like Tampa Bay Lightning, who have lost in
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the first round for four years in a row, are sixth.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: The Florida Panthers, two time defending champions before obviously Carolina
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: won this year, the e would make the playoffs. Yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I just they didn't make the playoffs. They must suck. No, man,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: there's circumstances.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: You know what's weird is that it feels like with
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets offseason. You know something has to be done.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: It's just a matter of what are you gonna do
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: and how are you gonna do it? With the abs?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: My question is what needs to be done. What needs
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: to be done.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I think what needs to be done is to fast
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: forward to the playoffs to see if you could find
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that juice for all three rounds.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, if somebody's got outside of this is already
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: this has already been decided, so coaching change not can happen.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: So leave that off the table anybody texting it. I'm
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: genuinely asking you, if you were in charge, if I
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: put you in Sackics chair right now, you're the GM.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: You have to make personnel decisions. What's the decision that
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: you might I.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Would do with John Michael Liles told us on Friday.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: You weren't here when John Michael Lyles sat in for Mosher,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: who thought he was dying at the time.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He said, it's I let's let's get the facts straight.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I was in good shape at that time. You wanted him.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: You booted me off my own program.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Well you spent them.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Them's the facts, but you also left.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Your own program. I had to claiming that you were dying.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It's dying, okay, So John Michael Lyles I asked him
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that very question. You know what he said to stay
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: at home Burley Defenseman two not one, two at two
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: to the roster.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Boom done to replace which ones?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Now? I hate he didn't say who replaces whom. They're
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: gonna have openings because they've got free agents.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: At the blue line, like most. You bring back Kulak,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I'd like to, Okay, but what at what cost? Would
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: you bring back Burns?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I'd like him to be in an F sweater when
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: he sets the record. I think that'd be cool. But
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: let's make no mistake about it. I mean, the guy's
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: going to be forty two years old, and that's you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and and so sometimes your priority is going to be
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to win. Now, I don't think he was. I thought
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I saw as his game carried on throughout the course
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: of the year. I saw some erosion as the as
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the season went on.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I did too.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: There's no use, so let's let's get let's get down
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: to brass tacks. Would you trade brought Nelson right now?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: You would? Okay? In thirteen postseason games he had two goals?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Was he seven or eight?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Right around there? It's believe me when I tell you,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: believe me when I tell you. Brought Nelson's contract is
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: entirely tradable. If you want to sure, it's a he had.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: He had a good year and then the playoffs started.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: That was it. That was it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Marty h just had one playoff goal. See the problem.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: He had twelve assists. He was a pointed game guy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: He had thirteen points in thirteen games. You probably I
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: think he had one. He had one goal, one goal?
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he had what thirteen or fourteen points during
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: that run?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I said, just said thirteen points total? Yeah, he was
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: a pointed game guy.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Was it that first goal against Minnesota? The game one?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like Marty got a little bit too much
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: heat for some other guys that probably deserve more of it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: He's I'm just I understand he's one hundred point guy
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: and you want him to score.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Would you trade nos Kadri? He had nine points and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: thirteen playoff games.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I think he helped your power play immensely.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: They did mention that. Yeah, I'd say probably not because
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: but because you're if you're talking about trading guys. Look,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: the only reason he held hang on hang the only
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: reason I had hesitated with Nas. Nas did look noticeably slower.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: And look, he's an older guy now, so I get it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: But there were times it was like, he's thirty five now, Bruce,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: so did the Bruce Brown effect?
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: The second goal around is not as fun as the first.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the difference with Bruce.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I remember when he came over here and everybody was pumped.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I was pumped. But I said, it's a little weird
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: that three teams decided to pass on him in two years,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, was there something there
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: that maybe we just weren't noticing because nostalgia was kicking
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: in now Caatrie's still a good player, especially for the
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: role that you're asking him to play mode. It's not like,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's your third line center. You aren't asking
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: him to go out and get eighty points, right. So yeah,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You know, I think what I'm let me try to
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: lay this out for you a little bit too. You think,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: if you know you're losing and you don't you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: some guys didn't show up or whatever, you you need
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: playoff performers. Val a former playoff performer, had two goals
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: and two assists in twelve games. Yeah, it was still
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a plus one. But it's a good kid.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: But I wonder, at least, what do those points change
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: if Nelson can hit the back of the Natty couple right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Nelson was a minus one through the entire postseason. Yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: which tells you they're not on the ice getting their
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: asses kicked, right.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: But you aren't. You need them that is to produce.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: That is that is correct. I will just say this,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: if you decide that you want to go that route,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: and you'll get assets back, believe me, talking about up
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the middle, especially with Brock, then you're not what makes
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: you one of the unique teams and makes you so
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: strong or helps make you so strong. As you're strong
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: up the middle, you've got center depth that nobody else
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: in the league has, which is very, very coveted. By
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the way, you saw what happened the second Carlson went
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: out in Game five, they were done. They got their
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: asses kicked the rest of that game and in Game
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: six by Carolina without William Carlson, and it was overall
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I think a good Stanley Cup Final. They got their
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: asses kicked by Carolina.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Can I ask you?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And that's and they're missing their second line, not even
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: their first lines in the right their second line center
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: and they got smoked.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Can I ask you a dumb question. Yeah, sure, Darnell
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Nurse once out of that, not.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: A chance in hell. Not the players that money.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: No, well, I was gonna say the money is half
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: that money. The money is not as bad as it seems.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: His AAV is nine two five, but they frontloaded it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: He's owed twenty nine over four years.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Your lower you're going to resign Kal though.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just stay at home defenseman. That would fit
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: this roster.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: That's why that's why I asked about Nurse guy. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: don't know if the money was too much.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not necessarily a stay at home I mean,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: he's got offensive abilities.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: But he's he's good.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that he correct when you when you
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: look at the Edmonton Orders, by the way, they don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: even have a coach and they're what tied for fourth
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: in Stanley Cup odds, they don't even they don't even
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: have a freaking coach. Of course, is in the dry
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: side effect.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: The final four years in his contract MOGE would be
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: seven point four per and you're saying, well, if you
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: retain some salary or whatever, I don't know.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: We'll see. But but Evan Bouchard is everything that they
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: hope Darnell's nurse would be when they gave him that money. Yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: and he's the number he's the number one for the
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Edmonton Orders. But I wouldn't do that. No, I would
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: not listen. I get what you're saying. If you look
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: up and down too, and you look at at some
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: of the stats from the postseason, things that stick out
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: the The minus five was the worst the Avs had.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: A lot of guys were plus. Hell, Brent Burns was
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: a plus nine in the postseason. Your boy LLC LLC
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: was a minus faulty. And I'm not a big plus
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: minus guy. I'm just saying that that it's not.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Like you were getting p K stuff probably with him.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: No, because that doesn't figure into plus minus. Oh got you?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: This even strange stuff. So, but a lot of guys
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: were plus me Brent Burns, would you bring it back?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: He was? He was a plus nine in the postseason.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's will you entertained this question? But think about this.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You had a mulligan, a do over, turn back the clock.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I turned back the Avs clock to Game one of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals. I turned back the Nuggets clock
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to Game two of their first round series against Minnesota.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: You get to wave a magic wand and I can't
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: find my wand anywhere in front of me.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so weird that your Harry Potter wand suddenly
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: went missing.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: You get to wave a magic wand you get a redo.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: You can make a personnel move, a strategic move. What
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: would you do different if you had to replay I'm
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: going to bring you back, actually rewind the series game one,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: both series? What would you do?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: What? What?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: What?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: What's my game one? Again? What's my game?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Game one of the Western Conference Finals? It's AFS Vegas
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Well Nuggets Game one against the Tea Walls, which they won.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to give you the entire series. If
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you had to make a change in each of those series, personnel, oh, god,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: game whatever? What change would you make? And you can't
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: just snap your fingers and say, hell, that's not the answer.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about what they had on the the Nuggets.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I would have played Christian Brown less because he was hurt.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I would give him strather minutes. I would have given
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: you know, so more straw minutes, minutes i'd played Giannis
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a little bit more, Yeah, I would have. I would
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: have gotten more.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I want to get back question card the other way.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want the health card the other way.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: No, No, I didn't say that. I said he Christian Brown
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: was hurt, so I would have played other guys more.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this makes me one of barf And I go
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: back to that game one against Vegas and he were
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: down three nothing, but kind of you know, early in
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the third period and you score twice and you're pressing
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: and they get an empty netter. You put almost forty
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: shots on goal in that game. Oh man, it's Game
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: two that kills me because you've got a one nothing
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: lead on a Ross Colton goal halfway through the third period.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: You've got a one nothing to lead. What would I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: do if I would you make? I would make brock
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Nelson not hit the crossbar right Well, you know what
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, Vick. I mean, if you pop one more in,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: just pop one more in. Carter Hart, by the way,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: at this point, what's he doing, Brett? What's that graph show?
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: He's playing out of his frigging gord. He's playing the
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: goals above expected. I mean he's out of his mind.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I mean he saves above expected. Excuse me, he's out
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of his mind in comparison to the rest of the postseason.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: He's at this point in the av series, between Game
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: one and Game four, it only got higher. He's out
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: of his mind. He's playing better than he is by
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: a mile. I'm pissed off, That's what I am. Well, right,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: change maybe not be his pissed off because I'm pissed off.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: You didn't help us with the question.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: No, I did not.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I got it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Vic.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I have to go back and think somebody said Blankenberg
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: over a Sean.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe, I mean maybe, but again when you look
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: at you look at those stats too. They both they
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: both were exposed because they had to be because mccarr
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: was out what I what I what I put up?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Uh uh? I don't know a prison sentence on call
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: mccarr if he doesn't play Games one and two against Vegas?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Would I do that and say you're going to jail
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: for a decade if you don't. He wasn't ready to play,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: and they got exposed because they're not that guy, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Vegas took advantage of it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Robert on the text line regarding the Nuggets, what change
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: would you make? He says, not not have Jamal bring
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the ball up?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I they talked about that during that series, right, Remember,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you gotta have more ball handlers. They talked about it
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: after the series. Ball handling, really they struggled there. But
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: if Jamal's not bringing the ball up.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Who is, honestly Viking, It's gonna be stupid. I don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: want to say it. I want but it was like
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: numbers bore this out, Nuggets pretty good. When Tias Jones
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: was on the floor.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: They wanted Jamal and Tias Jones together.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe try something yeah, three, three, five, four, nine, two five.
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• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I would have butchered that one, for sure. I would
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: have gone El Patio.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: I definitely said Al Patio yesterday.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you did mixed it down.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, next problems, Vic problems go ahead.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Brett introduced it. Then I got to talk to Vic
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: for a second. Please.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Oh By the way, stories around sports in the world,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: we feel like you should be aware of h Lee Blair.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Vic is currently in the merchandise shop at Chinnacock. Yes,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: and uh, you know it's for hats, right you will?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You know your boy Brett here is a big hat guy.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: You know he is. Well, Lee just sent three photos
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: full of hats and Brett has to decipher. Oh god,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: there's a fourth photo. Now he's got to decipher which one.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be a big here in the next twenty minutes,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: and so he's gonna have We're gonna lose him. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: just want to let you know, Vic, we're gonna lose
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: no more hats.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Or golf shirts. I've made that promise to myself. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: cannot possibly fit anymore.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I think you know what. I think you're right. Unless
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: it's just given to me for free, I don't. I
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: have so many damn hats golf shirt I can't do it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: What are you seeing? There're he's like he's like a
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: dog in front of a bone.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys, just go go on about you okay.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: By the way, Vic, I got one for you. Please
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: tell us about They get together last night in honoring
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Doug Mo at Big Bills.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it was a beautiful love I love.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: The photos, dude. I thought it was awesome. That's really cool.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how many people turned out for this.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: They close the rest Staunt down and obviously h Doug Mo,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: who passed a couple of months ago. The legendary Dug
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Mo has his roots in Denver, spent a decade with
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the Nuggets, and a bunch of his former players, coaches, associates,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: people who worked for the team. That was my youth man.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I walked into that era and it was like reliving
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: my childhood. I walk in and I see Alex English,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: who flew in from South Carolina just for this gathering.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I see T. R. Dunn, Theodore Roosevelt Dunn was there,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans, Bill Hanslick, Danissel, Mo, Martin, George Carl h
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Dave Roebish, Rick Barry came up for the occasion.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: You said you said thisle Yeah, did I say this?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Did I say twice?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: No?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, danissel was there as well. It was a hodgepodge
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of eighties Nuggets and not only just the players and coach,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: but all the behind the scenes people sparkying Big Bill
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: helped organize this thing. It was just so cool. It
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: was so cool to see this and and the laughs.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: It was another era, man, it was Doug mo was
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: a special man and last night proved it. Just to
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: see how many people assembled to honor and pay respects.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: To the late great that's awesome.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Doug and Chopper are looking down on it right now,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: go a head. That's awesome. That's just that's such a
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: that's such a cool thing, man. And for them all
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: to get together, and you're right, dude, that era of
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Nuggets basketball, my goodness, gracious. Different, absolutely different.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Two coaches. We were talking, we were we were joking
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: about that the staffs had two coaches on it, the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: head coach and an assistant coach and a trainer. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: And Chopper did Chopper did all the travel. I mean,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: it was, it was, it was, it was. I'm telling you,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: it was a different time. Bro.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I ran into Lisa Whittaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to one. She was my boss when I was a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: ball boy. We talked about the ball boy days.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Uh, you know what Victor makes me smile,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: and that's I'm really glad that went down for you
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: and all. Then that's that's really cool.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: What do you guys think about this? I'm just gonna
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: read this from golf dot com. With a dramatic eagle
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: on the eighteenth hole of Gunnison Gap, a wind whipped
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: water laden virtual course, Jeffrey Lannon won the twenty twenty
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: six Golden Tea World Championship. How about that? Good for him?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I'm good for.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Old jeff Oh yes, now I like Golden Tea.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: He took a thirty thousand dollars first place check.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Wow wait wait, wait, wait wait wait what did he have?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: An eagle?
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: An eagle on eighteen of Gunnison Gap, of course.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, what do you think about.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Winning thirty thousand dollars for being the best Golden Tea
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: player in the world. Huh?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Is that that one with a little rollie ball?
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, every bars got.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: They don't. I can't tell you how sometimes how hard
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: it is to find.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: They used to be everywhere, Yeah, used to be everywhere.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I gotta see this hole though, because I I, oh my,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: it's an It looks impossible.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, I just have to say it because I want
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: to know what the odds of this happening are. Three
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: years ago, my son Dante, on number fourteen at Sanctuary,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: came two inches away from winning a Maserati. Last year,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: my brother Mario came about a foot away from winning Alexis. Yesterday,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I came two feet away on the same whole, same
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: shot from winning a car myself. Three straight years of
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a family member finishing this close to winning a vehicle,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: nothing to show for it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Be better trying to get a car, man like, be better.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I've never had a hole in one. I hate these
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: people who I guessed day comfid.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I go hold Kyle keith on ten thousand dollars, got
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a hole one at City Park.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Here's ago, dude, Keiffer dunked a four iron at ten
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: two ten with a four iron, dunked it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I saw John Lynch. I saw John Lynch at the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan Tournament many years ago. Win win a car
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: at a hole in one hole out there at Omni
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: No kidding, Yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you guys about this, by the way,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: hold on, hold on or telling the hold one stories.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: You don't have one either, jerk, no Vick, you don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: have one either.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Dick has a hole on one.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I have one, Oh you do. I didn't win a car.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I've come close in tournaments so much so we're like
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the girl and the kid at the green. You have
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: to sit and be have witnesses. They get up and
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: they go, oh, I am like, dude, that's gotta be tight.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Right there, dude, right there, big old red Mercedes on
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the t eh.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Nelly had Nelly? Our boy was grilled yesterday at noon
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: by PhD. Why was that Nelly?
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, yesterday you guys were talking about
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: the Japanese World Cup fans who who clean up in
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: the stands after themselves, and how this station could be
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: more like that, and then and then you said that
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: PhD were the messiest show on this station. Established at
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: about maybe twelve oh two, like first segment of their show.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Without warning, d MAC called me into the studio, put
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: me on air and grilled me and asked me what
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: are the specific ways that they are messy? Because they
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: felt like those accusations were not true. And I did
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: my best to give some examples. But I want you
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: guys to add to the pool. What are the specific
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: ways that they're messy, so we can give them twenty
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: of them. Let's hear him because I don't want him
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: to put me on blast again.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Now to day goes by where Hastings doesn't break a
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: mic or a chair.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: That is true.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: If I take this little red muff off, the microphone
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: is filthy and it's not me.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Uh d. Mac shows up at the studio after riding
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: his bike, sweaty and nasty.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Look around here, Brett, if I lift this key, he
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: has his socks.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: He puts his socks in the corner.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I make this clean over here.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: We have basically an ash tray in here that's called
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: the zin bin that Tyler Palumbus takes Zen's in and
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: out of his mouth and just throws used ones in
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: and then never throws them away.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely disgusting.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: There are coffee mugs that have algae growing in them,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: either in the bullpen or in the studio multiple times
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: a week.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: And we won't even get into the fact that we
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: had a charity jar for children's youth that they they
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: took it, they took the money.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Now again we're getting off track. They want another messy.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's other things that we could complain about
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: uh Columbus has got his live reads. It just sitting
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: here all day every day, never throws them away like.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: This year microphone that I speak into. I can't tell
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: you how many times this has happened. I got it, yeah,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I mean you know, I okay, these are just.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Donuts, sprinkles all over.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Then I remember that day.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Should we continue or do you need more?
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Please keep going? I left one half burrito in the
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: bullpen one time. Do you remember when d mac used
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the bullpen as his personal locker?
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I mean that too close everywhere? Clean up after yourself.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: How many more examples? D you need?
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Be more like Team Japan and less like Animal House?
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Can I ask you guys one question real quick? What
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: do you think of ripped in jacked coaches? I saw
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Brenda More He looks like the thing when he had
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: his shirt off holding that Stanley cup, and I gotta
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: tell you, way too little body fat on that guy.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: I need you're a coach, I need to I know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: He is Jered Bednor's act.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I am uncomfortable with jacked coach. Look at this, Look
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: at he's he's got an eight pack. You see every rib.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I don't like your coach being that in shape. You're
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: gonna be honest.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: What do you want Andy Reid?
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I want Mark Bengino. That's what I want. Every coach
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: like Mark. Look at him, there's nothing out. It's a
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: fat on that human being.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: They call him Rod the Bod for a reason. Kaner
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: so among them?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: You want you want to coach? You want Ken Hitchcock back?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Sean McVay National Football League is jacked.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Dan Campbell yeah, oh yeah, Demigo Ryans well, Dimiko might
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: have a little bit, might have a little bit on
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: him now.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Robert Sala was pretty jacked.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Sala, Yeah, for sure, Sala.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: How about NBA? Who are the jacked NBA coaches? Oh?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: David Adaman? Uh the uh god?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: What's his name? The Orlando coach who's let go? Former
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: CU buffet Jamal Jamal Mosley?
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Who is the hang on, most in shape coach in
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the NBA by the way, Warren Shaffer's Jack, Yeah he is.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Warren Schaffer's Jack is let's see here now Jack.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Joe Missoula. Yeah, he's definitely because he does combat fitness.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: J JJ Reddick.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I he's jacked.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: He's in good shape.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Though, mhm, what about Spolstra.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Hey that combat fitness, that's next level baby hold.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: But Vick, I don't know if this is just uh,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: the the the robot overlords doing this. I googled most
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: in Shape coach in the NBA, and it says JJ
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Reddick says Steve.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Kerr know about that. He seems like a runner.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: But mostly this tell me what happens here. So this
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: is most in Shape coach in the NBA. Here's your
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: AI overview. What's the first link that you see on here?
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Doug Mo's Wikipedia page.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Was Doug Mo?
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Uh throwing up three plates on bench?
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: You were talking about Doug Mo? I know? Is that
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: did you?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Were we talking about Doug Mo? And then the computer said,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I know you said, NBA coach, you just brought up
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: this guy. I don't like that at all.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: That's weird.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Hey, Brett, I need your I need you to pick
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: a hat like no, okay, got it, We'll doom oh.
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