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EP: 64 Do Major Religions Rank People Higher & Lower? Honest Talk · The Sense and Senseless Podcast

• Jason: You can't buy grace. You can't buy your way into heaven. That's the cool thing about that. Works does not get you into heaven because that's a form of money. Working is a form of money. You either got cash or you got work. One of the two. you're not getting into heaven from your works, Brian. You you don't deserve it. you have done nothing to earn that. He gives it away freely. All you have listen, you don't bryan: So w so what do I have to do to get why do I have to go to a religion to go to heaven though? Jason: have to. All you have to believe is that Jesus Christ died for your sins. That's all you have to do. bryan: Yeah, I can't believe if I do everything great, all Jason: Yes. bryan: right, and and I'm doing the best I can every day and Jason: Yes. Yes. bryan: I can't go to heaven because I won't accept that Jesus died on the cross for my sins. So now I'm not allowed to go to heaven. What's the point of me doing good at that point? Nothing, right? Because it c Jason: No, no, I guess not. bryan: because if I'm not gonna go to heaven. So if you have that many people that do not believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and they can't go to heaven, there's no sense in them even doing anything, right? So if we preach this enough, could we not create a society that is just godless because there's no chance for them to go to heaven because they don't believe that way? fuck me. Alright, let's start this shit over again. All right, take five. Hi, welcome back to the Sense and Senseless Podcast. I'm Brian. Jason: Well at least I know who I am now. I'm Jason. bryan: Here's Jason. We we set up the record. We did a lot of this episode and figured we didn't even hit the fucking record button. So here we are again. All right. Jason: So anybody wanna comment? Yeah, you guys are retarded. Yeah, we are. We'll take that one. bryan: Yeah, yeah, we were retarded. All right, this is your first time joining us. Welcome to the family. We're just two guys talking about real shit in a way that everyone can understand. Tonight we're diving into something personal and heavy religion. Specifically, why so many major faiths seem to draw lines that put us above them. What that looks like in the real world. From the conflict in Israel and Gaza to propaganda. To claims of superiority in Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. And why my personal view of God doesn't require picking a team, paying a tie, or checking any religious boxes. We're going to challenge each other's thinkings and ask the hard question: Does organized religion actually bring us closer to God or further apart? Stick around, this one's gonna get honest. Please like, share, follow, and subscribe. We appreciate every single one of you. Jason. Jason: Let's do it for the tattoo bryan: Let's do it. Take twos. All right. We talk about a lot of stuff on here. And I want to talk about something that's dear to you and not so much to me. Religion. Reason is I want you to understand where I stand with the Lord. Maybe you can convince me why I'm wrong. Not that I wanna be wrong, but because I like to challenge my thinking. Again, remember, you know, we're gonna keep this cordial and I love you. It ain't nothing against you. Just I'm just trying to understand some shit. Jason: No, we fully respect one another. We know where each other stand. So no. Anybody watching this, this is not gonna lead into a big argument or silent treatment or whatever, so bryan: Well, before we get into that, I I wanna go over how I got there because again, my my brain just works. I I see something and I just keep pulling threads. And I saw a few videos on Israel that got me questioning the beliefs of the Israeli people, or at least the ones that's linked to B B's circle and his supporters. So we're gonna start with this one about how Israel needs more people to join the military. Okay. So they need people to fight, but not the young religious people. So the people that support B B they don't need them to fight. Just the people that support what he wants to do. That that what I got out so that like you said earlier when we wasn't recording about the mandatory serving. Jason: Yeah. Now if you don't bryan: That's still there. Jason: want to serve, you can just become you can just get into the Bible side for If you become a biblical student, now you don't have to serve. I mean, that's that's kind of messed up because it's like, well, let's see, do I wanna go to the military or do I wanna go learn more about the bryan: Well. Jason: the Jewish religion. bryan: Or is it more about indoctrination? Jason: yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know why he's using that as a thing, you know, if you're in religious studies, then you're you'll be exempt from having to serve in the military, and that's gonna put a lot of strain on their military people. Cause who who's to say they don't start that stop loss crap like got done to me when I was over in Iraq? You know, I was supposed to have gotten out in like March of two thousand four. I got over there in right be like the week before the Super Bowl, we got over there. So that Super Bowl's like the first week of February. So the end of January, I got over there and in March or April I was supposed to have gotten out, but they put a stop loss on you until you pulled your full tour. Now I got a good chunk of money for them doing that to me, right? I think it was like five or seven thousand dollars. And that was a lot of money to me then. bryan: To you, but that's nothing to them, and they're just buying your life. Jason: Yes. bryan: That's what they're doing. And Jason: So who's to say they're not gonna have to do that to these military dudes that are already in there? They're not gonna be able to get out and rotate guys in wim w men and women out in and out now because they're giving a lot of outs for the other people. So yeah, if I don't wanna go to the military, bryan: Okay, let me act let me ask you this. Jason: I'll just go to school. bryan: And and I know the answer to this more than likely, but how did that help morale by putting everybody on a stop loss? Jason: It sucks. bryan: Because now you're not there voluntarily. I mean, you signed a contract, Jason: Yeah. bryan: you knew what you had to do, but now I and I've read back then some of got like indefinite, you know, on their whenever they looked at their contract or whatnot, it was basically to be determined. You know? Jason: Yeah. I don't know all that, but I I was just told that that, you know, I was in the National Guard. I was active duty Marine Corps first, so anybody listening to this don't crack on the Guard. Guard was made up of a lot of of prior service active duty military people that got out but still wanted to serve in a capacity, right? And they served in their community, but then we got activated and had to go over there. So kinda against what National Guard stands for, you think National Guard would Like when the active duty goes out, we would take their place in the nation, right? Protecting our nation while they're gone overseas doing that stuff. That's not how they did it. So they knew what they were doing. They knew this was going to be a long war-out war. They had to circuit or circulate people in and out. I didn't it didn't bother me, Brian. I wasn't gonna like go over. I mean, why would you go over there for two months and then be like, all right, see you guys, I'm out. I'm not doing that. I would have just asked, like, hey, if you're gonna kick me out, because I'm not re-enlisting, I couldn't. My wife went through breast cancer right when this was happening and all that. I had some different circumstances that I was gonna step away regardless of a war or not. But I felt a need to serve and be with my brothers in arms over there. Why let them go get put in danger of me be sitting back with my feet up? I wasn't about that. So I went over there and I knew I was gonna be kept over. But I wasn't signing them re enlistment papers. That didn't bother me. But there was some people that got stop loss that were pissed off that they were being held and wasn't able to get out until they served their deployment terms. bryan: When it comes to something like that, and I I didn't have to fight in a war, but majority of guys, from what I understand, are serving to protect the guy on the side of them. And that's Jason: Yes. bryan: said so many times because you get to a point to where you're not serving your country anymore because you have no choice but to be there. And you being put in positions that you you don't probably agree with, but you accept the terms because of the guy on the left and right. And they know that. And they they use that. Jason: They played at that. bryan: Yeah. And and as far as the National Guard, I really believe that we just don't have enough I mean, they have quotas, I get that, but we just don't have enough people in our military to support everything that our government wants to get involved with. Therefore, they have to use the National Guard. As Jason: Right. Right. bryan: if we didn't have to be involved in everything in the fucking world, you know, we would have enough people to defend this country. But yeah, I I Jason: Right. Yeah, National Guard was was was mainly built for it it's a it's a division of the Army. They they have to fall under something, so they just pick the Army. You're not gonna pick every service. Cause you have reserve, Army Reserve, Navy Reserve, Marine Reserve, Air Force Reserve. I don't know if Coast Guard has one or not, but anyways, you have reserves for all the military branches. National Guard does not fall under that. National Guard falls under state control. But it can be federalized underneath the army if needed. But it's designed for like tornado relief, flood relief in your in your state. That's what it's designed for. And it's like bryan: I don't remember Jason: a militia. It's like a state militia, basically, is what it's designed for. bryan: I don't remember if if they y ever used the National Guard before the first Gulf War in the early nineties. That's the first time I remember them calling the National Guard. I don't know if they they might have done it in Vietnam. I don't know. But the first time I remember is Jason: Hold on. Good Let me mute and I'll laugh. bryan: Okay. Well, I'm gonna keep moving on because in my opinion, yeah, Jason: Yeah, keep talking and I'll find out. bryan: it looks like Israel just wants to stay out of the fight and maybe Maybe they don't fucking want to fight, they just want to hit. But the problem I have, and I'm about to show you a video of how these son of a bitches are just watching bombs drop on Gaza. Let's check this shit out. Okay. Now when I first saw this, I thought, man, that's wrong. You know, why why would you want to watch bombing of people? It it takes a sick person to want to watch that. Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: And that makes me believe that the belief system of these people has to be shit at best. Yeah. So that that's what really started making me question religion. That brought me to what I was going at. What you find out on the National Guard. Jason: All right, so the National Guard, the first time that it was mobilized to actually fight in a war was the Spanish American War in eighteen ninety eight. bryan: Damn. Jason: they were part of the Philippine American War in eighteen ninety-nine through nineteen two. World War One, they fought overseas, not just protecting the United States from set nineteen seventeen and nineteen eighteen. World War Two They fought overseas in forty one and forty five through forty five. Korean War from nineteen fifty to nineteen fifty three, Vietnam War from fifty five to seventy five, Persian Gulf War from ninety to ninety one, and the global war on terror from two thousand one to present. So bryan: Damn, every war, basically. Jason: Every war, yeah. So I wasn't I didn't know that, but bryan: I didn't either. Jason: in nineteen seventy three they signed some kind of bill making it where it was called the Tort Total Force Policy where they were included in with the reserve to be able to be mobilized at any time to go overseas and fight in a war. bryan: Okay, so y'all basically the National Guard's the reserve stop. Jason: Yeah, they yeah, it's like the reserve of the reserves. bryan: Yep. So the critical reserves. Jason: Yes. But they're also there to help out for torn like y usually you're not gonna bryan: Yeah, I understand that. Jason: mobilize the reserves or the active duty to go do like a snowstorm or ice storm or tornado or whatever. They're they'll they'll activate the local national guard in that area. So bryan: Did you catch any of that video of Gaza or Jason: sorry I didn't. I was Chad GPTN, but yeah, I could under I see what you're saying though. I mean anybody that gets off watching bombings of other people and people being destroyed and thinks that's a cool thing, I bryan: Yeah, it's just why do you show that in school? I mean, it's one thing if it's on the news. I get it. But when you make a fucking field trip to go watch it, that's pretty fucked up. Jason: Yeah. Right. bryan: And that makes me question your beliefs. and like we said earlier, he wants people that stay in the Bible studies. And maybe these maybe they all brainwashed, you know. And Jason: Yeah. You make it about religion and you got more heart to doing what you're doing. bryan: Yeah, that too. Well, watch what they have done here in the US. Watch this Zionist propaganda. So if they spread propaganda like this in the United States, what what do Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: you think they telling those kids in Israel? Jason: No, it's worse. bryan: How do you how can you tell somebody that somebody else is better than you? Or that you, you know, or that you better than them? How do you do that? How do you even conceive that? I I don't understand. And this this is what got me thinking about religion. I mean, because the Jewish people, when you really read into it, and I'm not trying to be anti Semitic or anything. I mean, when they talk about Goyam, they're talking about people that basically are bullet them, which is me, which is you. Is anybody that doesn't believe into their religion, right? And to me, it's horrible to think that another human is being nothing or even on a lower level than you. I I just don't agree with that. You know, my God, the God that I serve, does not approve of me looking at anyone as lower than me, ever. Jason: No, because okay, last night I told you I every Friday night unless me and you do this on Friday nights, right? 'Cause we have to, I go to this group. We call it house church or whatever. It's not a it's not a it's w all kinds of denominations show up, right? People from Methodist churches and Baptist and and and the Holy Ghost churches, you spirit filled churches, things like that. We we all show up and we basically some of these and they call it the hot seat and they read They come up with verses for that week about a subject that we're going to discuss and it's an open discussion and we're respectful of one another, whether or not we all agree with it or not. And you're a hundred percent right. There's in my community, I'd I might do that later. I I don't like doing it because then I miss what you're talking about or the video and I want to be in the discussion, but i I live in a small community and there's a ton of churches. There's more churches than liquor stores. So Why is there that many? bryan: I think there's four hundred thousand I think there's four hundred thousand churches in the US if I remember right. Jason: Okay, why is there that many dang churches? Because you know why? Because we started out at this church and then we got butthurt about something. So we went over here and we started this church over down the street from them. And then then then we we s we started building a congregation there, and then people got butthurt about something we were doing. So they left and they went down the r road and they started another church and then another church and then another church and then another church. And then we wonder why. We can't build godly morals in the United States. And it was built I I don't care what anybody says, prove me wrong. The United States was built on God. It it was. bryan: It was built on God. Right. I agree with that. Now what religion it was built on, I don't care. But it was built on the founding of God. Jason: It yeah, it wasn't, but it there's a lot of God stuff and biblical stuff in our constitution, it's in our bill of rights, it's in a lot of the forefathers stuff, right? That that's what this country was built on. So get mad at me all you want. It wasn't built on Shiar law or or Muslim or beliefs and and Buddhism and all that. It was built on God, Christianity. Yes. bryan: Yeah, not to stop real quick. Last night I I was watching something and it was a comp how you say that compotation or what it was a whole bunch of videos put together of diff Yeah, that big ass word, the whole bunch of videos put together. Let's put it Jason: Yeah, complicate or compli jeez, I can't even say, yeah. Yes. Yeah. bryan: that way. And it was all these different races that were saying how they built America. And what's sad is if it's they're all true, but it not true to the sense that. That one race built it. It was collective of all races that built America. And we can't Jason: Right. Right. bryan: even come together on that, yet alone what religion found it. Jason: Right. But we also can't we bryan: So I I I agree with you. Jason: also passed the freedom of religion and things like that because that's why we left England because England was forcing people to practice a certain religion and and it became toxic. And I think it I ooh, I'm gonna probably burn a lot of people. I've I'm not on this ca Catholicism. If you go back and you watch a lot of the like Robin Hood and things like that, don't I know they're fictional movies, but Still the c Catholicism there it it there was a lot of control and ruling in that. And there still is today. Prove me wrong again on that. You've got a Pope sitting in the Vatican surrounded by a wall that says we should have open borders. He doesn't have open borders and he's guarded. bryan: And he has homeless and poor outside Jason: But I'm glad bryan: of the gates of the Vatican. How? Jason: Right here, right here. I'm not saying that this that you know this yes, it was God we say this is God breathed, but man wrote this. I understand. It's it was we found all these tablets and all that stuff and put this together and they said that God you know, they put these dudes in a room and God laid it on what to put in there. Because there wouldn't be enough trees in the world, right, to to to spend. put every word that was ever spoke by the Lord or Jesus or any of the disciples or anything like that. You can't put it all into one book. And I totally understand that. But I've seen too much in my life and too much with my wife's cancer and and other people's diseases and things like that that they've dealt with. It's not chance. I'm sorry it's not. Somebody's not littered with cancer and then all of a sudden guys lay oil like the anoint them with oil like the Bible says. and and lay hands on them and pray over and then they go get scans and it's gone and the doctor don't know what the heck. I don't understand. I'm just saying, if you what I'm saying, if you seen a miracle, you seen a miracle, you can't, you, you can't ignore it. bryan: Well, I I don't argue that. And I I don't know about your area, but then I don't remember. We've talked about this before. Here in the South, where South Louisiana, we had healers. And each community had healers that you would go to. And that's what the old people always did. And they had their own remedies and healers would pray over you. They didn't go to doctors all the time. And then those healers were actually considered, you know, nutty. They they they were just crazy. And so they were phased out. People didn't want to go to them anymore because science, right? But for years, those healers helped people survive. Jason: Yes. bryan: You know, and they would lay hands on you and they would pray for you. And there was certain prayers that they would say for certain things. And that's how the healers done things. And they did everything herbally. Now, that don't work well with, you know, pharmaceuticals and doctors and all the shit that they pushed on us through all these years. So I agree with you that yes, there are ways through God that can heal people, that can help people. I'm not gonna argue that. Jason: I and you've had a lot of atheists read this Bible from cover to cover to try to debunk Christianity or God that were led to the Lord because of it. Because they read it from cover to cover to try to could debunk it. And due to the fact that they went in there with an open mind to to investigate and learn the truth, they were led to the Lord. I it just It happens. I mean, d you can't tell me that there was an explosion in outer space and all and all this existed. You can't. You can't tell me evolution happens, Brian, because if evolution happens, then why is why do we still have monkeys and apes? And if we evolve from that, why do we still why are they still here? bryan: I think we have evolution. I don't know if we fully evolve from apes, but it's proven that animals evolve, you know, and and change over time. You know what I'm getting at? Jason: We climatize, we climatez the stuff. bryan: No, I mean, animals have changed over time. Humans have changed over time. I think that there is an evolution in that. I can't prove that we evolved from apes. We evolved from girls, or whatever they said we evolved. Like man evolved from that. But I think there's enough to prove that I mean, even a dog would evolve over time. You know, certain animals, how horses, how they started off small and they got bigger over time. I think there is proof of evolution. I don't know if there's proof that we evolve from Apes, should I say. All right, so let's get back on this and we we're gonna discuss religion a lot more in a little bit. But so I wanna go back to the Jews because I mean it's not hating on Jews whenever you point out what the fuck they're saying. You know I'm getting that you they they everyone wants you to well, you just hate Jews. I don't hate Jews, they're the ones that talk about Goyam, you know, and and that their goyem counterparts are not, you know. Not as good as them. We're below them. They say that. I don't say that. I didn't know anything about this shit, you know, until I started reading on this. And it's not, I'm not anti-Semitic. It's just what they're saying. So how I don't understand how you say something, you believe something, and now it's my problem that I'm stating what you believe. That makes me hate. I don't hate you or anything. I'm just stating what you believe. Jason: Okay, so here's the other thing of talking. So the reason why God I I don't want to drag this out to a two hour podcast. bryan: No, we're gonna talk a lot about God in this, but go ahead. Jason: But the reason why God was so protective of the Jews is because Jesus he he knew Jesus was gonna come his son was gonna be born into that lineage. Okay. So that's why he protected them when he did. Now they did a lot of crap that pissed him off. Sorry for saying pissed off with God, but hey, that's my God. And he gets up, he's like, he's a father. And if you've never been a parent where you've gotten upset at your kids or let down by your kids and had to punish your kids, I mean, dude, the the they were they were enslaved by the Egyptians, right? By Pharaoh, Moses, the story of Moses. Moses went in there in freedom after God said, Hey, it's time to take them out. Moses was leading them to the promised land. He goes up on the mountain to get the rules, right? To talk to God comes down. These fools are already making idols again. God just opened the Red Sea. These people seen miracles that nobody else had seen. And these fools still reverted back to pagan idols like golden calves and things like this. You just got released. And you're so damn in your slavery you can't even ex accept freedom. And Moses comes down with the Ten Commandments, right? Because you have to have you don't know you're sinning or breaking the law if you don't have laws, Brian. We can agree on that, right? If bryan: Whoa. Yep. Yeah. Jason: there was no laws, speed limits and things like that, it'd just be what did we say? You've said it society can't exist without rules and laws, correct? bryan: They can't. Without without good people following the rule of law, society will not exist. Jason: Yes. Yes. You have to have yeah, you have to have something a weight of scale that tells you what you're doing is good or wrong. You have to. Now there's people, bryan: Maker. Jason: and I I don't know we're all the devil doesn't make nobody. You know, Satan, in my mind, demonic, d w wherever you want to call the dude, doesn't make God makes everything, right? That's how I believe. God does God formed you in the womb of your your mom. He formed you. He knew you. He the Bible says it. I knew you before I formed you. Cause he can do it. If he created everything in seven days, including the universe and all that, I think he can make a little measly you. Brian Maeon, right? He can make you however he wants. But anyways, he formed you, you were born, then you got free will. And that's what messes everybody up. Why is there bad people if God created everything? Did he create bad? No, he didn't. He gave everybody free will. So when I give you free will, you have the ability to choose. You didn't choose your wife. Are you d I'm sorry, you weren't made to choose your wife. You chose her. That was your own choice. Nobody made you love your wife. Agree? bryan: I agree. Jason: And same with her. Nobody put a gun to her head and said, You're gonna love him. Maybe you did. I don't know, but you told me you didn't. But anyway, same here. I bryan: No, I didn't. No. Not this time. Jason: chose, just like I hold my wife more dear than my parents and my brother and my sister. You know why? Because I chose her. I didn't choose my parents. I didn't choose my sister, my brother, my cousins, my aunts, my uncle. I didn't choose that. I was born into that. I chose my wife. I chose to have kids. And I totally agree that. And we talked about the cutting off a family and all that stuff. Yes, my family knows where my priorities are. But at the same time we have free will. That's where evil comes from. bryan: Yeah, evil can get mixed into you to lure lure to lure you into the wrong. Yeah, I agree with that. Jason: Adam and Eve, Adam yes. Ad Adam and Eve had free will in the garden. And Satan came in and and tempted them to eat from that tree of knowledge when they were told not to. So, okay. If I can try to explain God the best I can, because well, he's all knowing. Why would he allow all this? Why would he do that? If he's all knowing and omnipresent or omnipresent and all that, and then you got God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost, and they're all three the same, but they're not, they're different. Because he's God, he can do whatever he wants. He can be mysterious. He can be all that. But if you ever watched a movie and then Jennifer wanted to watch it and you had to sit down and watch it too, and you knew exactly what was was going to happen in that movie, and you couldn't change the outcome of it, could you? But you knew exactly what was going to happen in it, and you couldn't say nothing and you couldn't do nothing about it because she wanted to watch it and it was going to be her first time and you weren't going to ruin it for. That's how God is in our lives. When he created everything, he knew we were doing this podcast today. But he didn't do nothing about it. D if he comes down and intervenes in that, free will doesn't exist. bryan: Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Jason: D d does that make sense? bryan: Yep. Jason: If you were able to put a movie in and watch it and then go back and let Jennifer watch it and you were allowed to manipulate that movie because you didn't agree with how that movie went, so you were able to change it, that that's not good for Jennifer, right? She doesn't get to watch the same thing you bryan: Yeah. Jason: did, but you know from start to finish exactly how it's gonna end, and I'm gonna cry like a bubbling baby at the end of this because the cat's gonna die and Jason's dog, by the way, my dog's well, they're the vet's gonna keep the dog while we're gone. So that's a good thing. We're not putting the dog down, but I might have to put my Frenchie down for bulging disc disease. But anyways, I'm upset. It hurt me this morning. But at the same time, you know what I'm saying? Things happen. Good people die. Bad people bad people prosper. bryan: I I like the analogy that you did of the movie and I'm I'm gonna hit on this and I'm gonna move on to where we're going. It it makes a lot of sense, Jason: I hope that made sense to you. bryan: but it also makes me think of the same reason why I don't like going to church or religion. The same analogy that you used about a movie is I watched a movie and I I got to accept the movie and interpret it the way I want to interpret the movie. And then Jason: Yes. bryan: I allow Jennifer to watch the movie without interrupting her and let her interpret the movie, even though I knew the outcome of the movie. Which is a great analogy. Jason: Yes. Yes. bryan: But when you go to church, you have somebody that's reading a good book, the Bible, and they're interpreting Jason: Right. Right. bryan: the verses and giving it to you in their version. Jason: Yeah, because they're manipulating ya. bryan: Exactly. And that's what I don't like. And we're going to discuss that a little bit more. But you brought my point out with that movie and it highlights it great. And I'm glad you said that. but we're going we're gonna get back to that. So just give me a little bit, all right? I know it's a lot and I know you I I knew you was gonna enjoy this. Yeah, I knew you was gonna enjoy this, and that's why I'm Jason: Thanks for my preaching. I'm not asking for a love offering or nothing. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. bryan: letting you go, but I wanna keep it moving a little bit, all right? Jason: And when and real quick, w if for anybody listening, when I g when my voice raises, I'm passionate. I'm not mad. I'm not upset. Me this is my brother. This dude will die for me. I'll die for him. And there's nothing that's gonna come in between us. So anybody that thinks we're gonna go at it about this because we don't agree on this, this shows you how we can all be in this in this great state of the United or great country of the United States if we would come together like this and put aside our differences. And love one another, it'd be a lot better place. I'm just saying. And the government bryan: Yeah. Jason: wouldn't have the power and control over us that they do. But go ahead, Brian. bryan: All right, so we go back to the Jewish kids and their in their field trips going watch people die and get destroyed, you know? And so they're watching this country, their country kill, just kill these people in Gaza. And in Lebanon now, but in Gaza they would watch it in person, and in Lebanon they watch it on television. And like they said in the in the video, they playing it to music and these people cheering and celebrating, you know. And so they're teaching their kids to enjoy the death of all countries around them. And they're bringing that death. So that would lead me to assume that their leaders are teaching them that, right? Which will leads me to believe that the people that are above these leaders believe this shit as well. Which, if that is the case, I would assume that the people or family that facilitated the settlement of Israel might be some of the people above these leaders that enjoy or support the enjoyment. Of the death around them, you know, like the Rothschilds might be some of these leaders that support this shit, maybe. Right. So if you have a group of people that are taking kids on field trips to watch the destruction of the people around them, that has to be supported by someone above them, who has to be supported by someone above them. See what I'm getting at? This is too organized for this not to be supported by higher ups, is what I'm getting at. So that means that they all believe that we are everyone that's outside of that country or below them and can just be wiped off the map at any time. And why are we Jason: Right. And we might be able to. bryan: yeah, but why are we helping that? Jason: Because we don't know any better, because they've it's like tell a televangelist. I can name off some right now, dude, if you want me to. Todd White, bryan: No, good. Jason: dude from Cal I can't think from Bethel Church, Stephen Furtick. Huh? bryan: How about Joe Epstein? How about Joe Epstein? Joe Joe what Olstein? Oldstein. Jason: J Epstein, Olstein, Olstein, yes. All these all these big ones, T D Jakes, all these big ones you would see on TV or YouTube or whatever, mega, mega churches making millions of dollars, dude, they feed on people's emotions. They feed on people's hearts, they feel feed on their hearts. We when you're created to do something, Brian, when you're designed, when you're built to do something and you go against that, it's it's like walking into a wall. And they know that people prey on that. People are searching for something. They're searching for something to believe in and something bigger than them. They know there's something bigger. You admitted there's a person bigger than us. That, bryan: Yeah. There is something bigger than us. Jason: okay, you said I could you, we that's where we me and you meet at, right? And then I bryan: That's where we'll meet. Yep. Jason: go over here and you go down here. But we still we can meet there. And everybody a lot of people are like that. So you get these predators. They no different than pedophiles. They're pedophiles in a different term. They're not going after kids. They're going after weak minded people that are that are searching for something bigger than them. And they come out with the smoke and the and the music and the what did we talk about? Going to a rock concert, man. You like the the you like the energy. You can't just tell bryan: Yeah, the energy. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Jason: me it's just the people. That music, dude, just goes through you, does it not? I mean, bryan: man, when you feel it when you feel that music in your chest it's just unbelievable. Jason: Yes, you can't make you can't explain it any better. They do this in church services now. Go watch it. These bryan: That yeah. That makes sense. Jason: bands are awesome and they bring it. I went to one in Nashville, the Belonging Company. And I mean it it was like them drum, the b that bass on that church drum, I mean, just went right through you. And I was like, my yeah, raising my hands up. I was caught up in the moment, bud. Was I really worshiping bryan: I can sit up. Jason: God or was I was I having a worship moment or was I having a concert moment? You see what I'm getting at? And that's what they bryan: That makes yeah, makes a lot of sense. Jason: feed on. They feed on people that are hurting, they're dry, they're they're everything's falling apart. And they feed on those people. bryan: I agree. No. Now, how about this? Going back to can we agree that if you taking all these kids out on a field trip to watch people die, that there's a lot of people above them that's well, Jason: Yes. Yes. You're desensitizing them. bryan: there's a lot of people above them that agree with that portion. Right. So Jason: yeah. Yeah. bryan: in this manner, does that mean that our politicians believe that way about us? Because they're paid off by the same people, right? When when you look at APAC and all this other shit. So if they paid off by the same people that believe that you can destroy just everyone around you and it doesn't matter, do they believe that we're just pawns in the game and we don't matter? They believe that they're better than us. Jason: They don't care, dude, just keep sending the money. You see what I'm saying? bryan: Well, I I agree with that. Yeah. And and it all goes back to me is when Jason: It it's no different than the OF girl that I told you. She's not gonna do that shit in private and close doors with her husband. She's only gonna do that on the internet for money. Same thing for politicians. They wouldn't support Israel unless Israel is paying them money. That's why they're supporting that stuff, because they're getting money. I don't care what you do. You keep the money flowing in. You can do whatever the hell you want. You wanna blow Palestine bryan: But do you think that Jason: off the damn map? Take have at it. bryan: But do you think they're convinced that they're above us because of that? That's my my question. That the politicians Jason: Dude, they're convinced they got money. bryan: But that that we mean nothing, that we they we could just die and Jason: No they're no they're not. They got money. bryan: No, but do you think the politicians believe that we're enough like what they we're all right, can we agree that the Jews think that the people of Palestine should be wiped off the map? Okay. Do you Jason: Yeah. Jews think Jews, because they have been trained that way their whole lives, think they're above everybody on this earth. bryan: But you're saying politicians would only do that because they're getting paid. They're not conditioned to think that way, but the money makes them think that way. That's okay. Okay. Now I see what you're saying. Jason: Yes. The money makes them don't give a shit. And they will throw us under the bus for that money. So yes, they will get on that train of thinking, but d it doesn't necessarily Lindsey Graham may have not a thought that that that n BB was better than him, but BB's pad in my pocket, I'll say whatever the hell you want me to say, Daddy. Yes, daddy, yes, bryan: That makes sense, being a mouthpiece. Okay. Jason: daddy. I'll just be a mouthpiece for you because you're paying me. bryan: Right, so now the Muslims also believe they're better than others, others. The Quran Jason: Yes, they do. bryan: says that the Muslim community is the best group of people raised up for the good of mankind. It is also says that people who believe in Islam rank higher with God than those who don't. Jason: Right. bryan: At the same time, it does not say Muslims are better because of their race, tribe, or skin color. The only thing that makes one person better than another in God's eyes is how good and God fearing they are. So that's kind of confusing to me. Right. So that's that's Jason: How religious they are. It has nothing to do with the nationality. bryan: Right. So they got two religions right there that are very dominant that believe they are better than others, with the Jews and the Muslims, right? And I can't side with either version of their God. I just Jason: Can I give you a history on it? 'Cause they both came from Abraham. bryan: If you want to do it quickly 'cause we have forty one right now. Jason: No, just go back to Abraham where Abraham and and Sarah were trying to have a kid and God wasn't blessing it. So Sarah wanted a son, wanted to give Abraham a son so bad that he she put her concubine in there, Hagar, with Abraham and and said, Hit it up. And he did, and God allowed Hagar to get pregnant with Ishmael. And then finally God blessed Sarah with Isaac, right? And and then got or Sarah wanted, then she got upset after she had a baby. Okay, I've got the kid now. You throw them two out. They're they're getting in the way. You throw them two out. Isaac's gonna be the heir, not not Ishmael. Even though he was the firstborn out of your loin, he it's not mine. Get out. I was fine with it till, but not now. God told him to. And he bryan: Mm-hmm. Jason: said, I'll make unto them a great nation. So he cast out Hagar and Ishmael into the desert because God said he didn't want to. I mean, as his son, whether or not whether or not we were just trying to have an heir here, it's still like my dog. You know what I'm saying? And you said you talked about the cat, same thing. bryan: no, yeah, I know the story. Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah. Yep. Jason: I mean, that's your kid. bryan: Yep. Jason: And now you got a little jealousy going on, but God knew in order to do what wa what has to be done, yeah, and I'll take care of them. He did. He did make and do them a great nation, but you don't hear anything after that because then that becomes the Muslim thing. And I've been watching a lot of TikToks with Christian Muslim going back and forth together on podcasts, bryan: Yeah. Jason: and Muslims admit Jesus Christ was a great prophet, and that They admit that there's a good possibility he is the son of God. bryan: There are I I've listened to Muslims. I haven't watched them back and forth, but I've there's they got a few of them that actually speak good of Jesus. And they Jason: Yes. bryan: they actually talk about the lineage of where they come from and stuff. Jason: Yes. Yes. bryan: So I'm not when I'm saying this, I'm just talking about the generalization. I'm not saying there's not good people because I'm gonna talk about all religions. There are good people in all religions. They are. There's a lot of bad people in all religions too. Jason: Well, when you come from Father Abraham, Abraham was the the father of the Jew. well, that's what the Jews say. He's our father. And that's who they still look more high upon that walk this earth than Jesus Christ. They know who Jesus Christ. They knew it. They hell they hung him on a cross. The Pharisees and the Sadducees, right? The Jewish Pharisees hung got the people worked up to hang him because he was ruining stuff for them, right? bryan: That in in my view, the Jews and the Romans are the ones that killed Jesus. Jason: Yeah, well the Pontius Pilate just wiped his hand. He said, I'm not I'm your his blood ain't gonna be on my hand, but I see you guys are getting restless and I'm not gonna be handling a mob. So you guys decide yourself and they say crucify him. And so that's what he even his wife, even Pilate's wife said, You're you're you're killing the innocent dude. bryan: But they allowed it. Jason: They allowed it because the Pharisees were were were greedy. Dude, they had power. They had 600-something laws. You couldn't keep the law. They had so many laws you couldn't keep it. Jesus made it simple: Love your God, your father with all your heart, mind, and your soul, and love your neighbor as you love yourself. And guess what? The first one covers the first five Ten Commandments. The second law covers the second five. It just shortens them down and condemns them. Read the Ten Commandments. The first one's about like loving God, the second five are about loving your neighbor. bryan: All right. Well, now, all Jason: But anyways, go ahead. bryan: right, so I my God does not have the same I evidently I don't worship the same God as the Muslims and the Jews. I just don't. I I don't believe in what they have. nothing against Muslims and Jews. I that's just not my God. So then you have Catholics that believe if you don't serve them, you're not going to heaven. Now, while the Bible may not state that Catholics think they're better than other people, you have to serve their interpretation of the Bible. Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: To be allowed in heaven. And then You're not an accepting religion, in my opinion. Jason: Yes. bryan: And honestly, this can be said for most religions. Most religions believe that you haven't been, if you haven't been saved or been accepted by what they believe as being sacred, you can't go to heaven. The only way to heaven is through God. And these religions. Preach the word of the Lord of their God. Therefore, you have to be part of a religion if you want to go to heaven. If you have to pick a team, doesn't matter what team, but you have to pick a team. And if you don't pick a team, it's hell for you. So it's all religions say you have to, all religions that I looked at say you have to give yourself to their religion, right? In order to go to heaven. Because you're going through God, and the only way through God is through their religion. If you don't go through their religion or sacrifice, not sacrifice, but submit to their religion or be saved or confirmed or whatever you do, you're not going to heaven. It doesn't matter how good of a person you are, you could donate every second of your life of your day to the betterment of society and not take credit for any of it. But Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: if you don't join a team, you're going to hell for the sin of not joining a team. And my God is the God of every man, every creature on this earth. My God doesn't separate us by teams. My God gave us the Ten Commandments and passed the golden rule to us through his son. Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: This is, in my opinion, is all you need to live a good life. And if we all follow the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule, we wouldn't need so many religions and actual laws. It would just be simple, just as you said earlier. Just good, honest people. I didn't find any religion that just accepts anyone. You know, there's always a catch. Like Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. bryan: I was saying, you have to pay a tithe. You have to get baptized. You have to have confirmation. You gotta stop smoking meth. You know, you get the point. You gotta do something. You see what I'm getting at? Every religion, they're not just accepting anyone. That doesn't You have to fully believe in what they believe in. You have to submit to whatever they're doing. And to me, I don't think that religion's actually promoting God. No, because I believe religion is opposite of what God wanted. I think God wanted everybody to come together. But Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: the tribal flaw in all of us makes us gravitate to the like-minded or looking people. My God doesn't love you with conditions. He expects you to do your best every day and try to help others along the way. And that is what I do. But since I don't buy into religion, I won't go to heaven no matter how much good I do in this world. So what's the point in doing good? Jason: Because okay, so you want me to break that down for you? You don't you you don't make a shit ton of money, do you? I mean you make good good wage, don't get me wrong, but you're you don't have the type of money of people that can pay other people off. bryan: No, right. Jason: Like if you got into a legal issue or or something like that, you don't have bribe money and that type of money. bryan: Shit, I don't have lawyer money. Jason: Okay, all right. I've I'm g I'm trying to break this down and man, the Lord's downloading stuff to me, so just just hear me out here. bryan: I'm good. That's why I wanted to say that. But do you understand my point? Jason: Because he's just trying to help me underst or or tr trying to help me tell you how to understand this a little bit better. Because to to try to know him in his fullest, we'd never need him. Just being honest. We're not gods. We're not God. We're not Gods. So we're never gonna fully under we use 10% of our brain that he designed for us. That's pretty sad, ten percent. And and and we're pretty smart for ten percent. Like most there there's a lot of smart people out there only using ten percent of their brain. So That's on our our levels. But anyways, I'm probably only using four percent. But let me get back to this. So you don't make that kind of money. So your your thing is to do good works for people. To go out and help try to help people, like good works, like doing good things for people, like being nice, being courteous, opening a door, because you don't have money. If you had buy off money, just like the rich ruler came to Jesus and wanted to know, hey, how much money to buy all the gifts and to be and to be accepted into heaven? Jesus told him, sell everything and come with me. Give it all up. Give your kingdom up. Give your your your status as a r ruler. Give it all up and come follow me and be a follower of me. The ruler left walked away. He wasn't willing to give up his stuff. You can't buy grace. You can't buy your way into heaven. That's the cool thing about that. Works does not get you into heaven because that's a form of money. Working is a form of money. You either got cash or you got work. One of the two. We'll work for food. That's what homeless people say on their sign. We'll work for food. You don't have to give me money. I just want to eat. Work is a form of money, is it not? bryan: Yeah, it's a form yeah. Jason: Okay, so you're you're not getting into heaven from your works, Brian. You you don't deserve it. You you have done nothing to earn that. He gives it away freely. All you have listen, you don't bryan: So w so what do I have to do to get why do I have to go to a religion to go to heaven though? Jason: have to. All you have to believe is that Jesus Christ died for your sins. That's all you have to do. bryan: Yeah, I can't believe that though. Jason: Well, he sent his son. That's the gospel. bryan: I don't Jason: That's the good news is that he loved us that much that he couldn't stand to look at us because of the sin we were doing, that he sent his son down here to die and to take that. He took, he back in the day, you'd have to get back in the Old Testament of sacrificing. So when Brian lived on a sheep farm and it was time for the once a year when your your sins were atoned for by the priest at the at the temple, you would have to take your best sheep. Like your best livestock with no blemishes. The best one you had out of your herd had to go there and they would sacrifice that, cut its throat, the blood of that sheep, and then they'd burn it, you know, the incense would come off, the smell of that would come off in the temple, and that would atone for your sins for the whole year. Now I don't know from what I've heard, the because we don't know, and it doesn't really matter. All I know is I'm post that. I'm post where he's like, you know what, this isn't working. I he sent his son, and his son was the perfect lamb. The man that didn't sin took our sins on, hung on that cross, rose, defeated death, took the keys back because we gave the keys to Satan when Adam and Eve ate from the fruit. Jesus went back down there, got them back. And gave us dominion back over the earth when he rose, when he did what he did. Okay. bryan: Okay, let me let me actually let me do you believe that your church is right? The the church the church that you part of? whatever okay. Jason: No, no, not my church. No. We're not we're flawed. We're flawed. But do I believe my book? Yeah, I believe my book cover to cover. And that's the problem. bryan: So you believe Jason: Churches won't preach it cover to cover because churches have agendas. Churches are man. When when when you go to a church and they have bylaws, that's man. Ninety per bryan: Well, that's that's what I'm getting at. So religion is my whole point. Jason: Yes. Yes. bryan: From everything I've read, every religion wants you to join them in order to go to heaven, right? You have to be baptized or confirmation or you know, kill your firstborn. You have to do something to be part of their church so you can go to heaven, so people can be saved. And once you part of that church, and most big churches, and I don't know. what religion or how church you are, but just hear me out. Most big churches, that person that just left that mass thinks they're better than the person that's down the street struggling on the corner. They do. I don't give a shit what anyone says. They do. They they will not leave that most of them, some of them will. Jason: Yes. bryan: Most of them will leave that church and look down on that man instead of asking them, can I help you? And they think they're better than him. So why Jason: Yep. Yes. Yes. bryan: should I want to join That type of religion. I don't that don't make sense for me. So I will never join a religion because of that. That makes me a bad person. Jason: Yes, but what did I tell you earlier when I corrected you when we weren't recording, but I didn't do it again. It's not a religion for me. It's I was religious. I'm not now. I'm about relationship. bryan: So you agree that a lot of these churches like you said okay. Jason: yeah. Yes. Baptism, read in the book. John the Baptist was baptizing people and basically it was a it was an outward motion showing that you're changing, that you're repenting from living a life of doing wrong and you're being laid down in the water and washed clean and brought up and I'm gonna try to live my life better. That was how baptism started. Then Jesus Christ walked up and he goes, Because John told everybody, there's somebody coming that I don't even rate to hold his sandals, which in our turns would be I couldn't even hold this dude's jock, much less wear it, right? And he's talking about Jesus. The son of God is coming, and I won't even rate to hold his sandals. And John and Jesus walks up where John's baptizing people. He was going against all the Jewish stuff. The Jews were after him. You see what I'm saying? This dude was, he was you back in the day. He was standing up saying, y'all, you guys' religion's all full of crap. You guys are just using this for power and corruption and money and control and all that. And you look at all these people out here wondrously don't know how to live because you're controlling them, man. They don't have freedom in God. Because you're making it like a damn work like a company, like you owe your soul to the company store. That's what you're doing. bryan: It's a media paying to be in a a club that turns into a cult. Jason: You you can say that to somewhere, but the the overall history of Christianity to when Jesus came in on that's not a cult, Brian. I mean it's not. It's not a cult. Religions, yes, yes, it's no different than David Cresh and Yes. Yes, yes. bryan: No, I'm talking about religion. Like when I go to church, I'm just gonna say Cat Catholic Catholic Church. That that that's a ritual. It's a cult like mental I don't like that. Jason: Because they also bryan: Yeah and Jason: abuse the thing that God is a God of order. He is. They have strict order in the Catholic Church. The same dang order of worship. Mass is the same order of worship. Guess what? Every preacher has to give the same message a Catholic preacher if they fall under the the Pope. It is put out by the Pope and his his cronies or whatever, sorry for offending you guys. bryan: No, I agree with you. Jason: But how can all you guys be preaching the same message every Sunday? No matter if you're on vacation and you live in Union County, Kentucky, and you go to Florida and you go to a Catholic church, you're gonna hear the same message at that Catholic church that you would if you were at your home church. So it don't even feel like you're missing church. bryan: Okay. So I I wanna before we wrap up, I wanna rephrase Jason: Yes. bryan: my questi my last question I asked before in a different way. All right. So if I do everything great, all Jason: Yes. bryan: right, and and I'm doing the best I can every day and Jason: Yes. Yes. bryan: I can't go to heaven because I won't accept that Jesus died on the cross for my sins. So now I'm not allowed to go to heaven. I won't go to church, I won't go to What's the point of me doing good at that point? Nothing, right? Because it c Jason: No, no, I guess not. bryan: because if I'm not gonna go to heaven. So if you have that many people that do not believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and they can't go to heaven, there's no sense in them even doing anything, right? So if we preach this enough, could we not create a society that is just godless because there's no chance for them to go to heaven because they don't believe that way? Jason: Well, I it's just it's i you're not gonna pass high school if you don't If you don't believe that two plus two is four. If you don't you see what I'm saying? I mean, like once again I said you can't buy your way into heaven. That's just that's just a fact. And and doing good works. bryan: But but if I know this is four inches or if I know what four is all the time, I I I might not need to know what two plus two equals four if I don't use that at all. I don't use the fact that Jesus died on the cross for me to be good. So I can still go through life and be good person. Jason: Yeah, a lot I'm I mean, we've we've been told that for a long time. And I hate to say at 51 years old, I'm not brainwashed of this. I just don't what the book says from cover to cover. There's a lot of good people that's not gonna make it to heaven because they can't accept the fact that Jesus Christ died for their sins. I mean, it's just that's just like an atheist that says they don't believe in God at all, but they want to argue about God. It's like, why would you argue about something you don't even believe in? bryan: Yeah, I I don't know. Jason: If I don't believe in something, I ain't talking about it. I'm just gonna move on. So I don't believe in Sasquatch and I don't talk about Sasquatch, but bryan: The only reason I think that an atheist would argue about believing in God is if someone approached them and asked them, you know, what religion are you said atheist? And they'd be like, You don't believe in God? And they're like, No, this is why I don't believe in God. You know, I I I can't see somebody just coming out and just saying, I don't believe in God, you know, and you shouldn't believe in God. I I some people might do that, but I don't I don't talk about religion like that much with anyone, you know. Jason: Right. Right. bryan: And I just wanted to bring it up here because, like I said, I I seen what was going on with Israel and Gaza and Hadi were watching that stuff, and that makes me believe that. Jason: And if it makes you believe anything, Israel, unless they which I don't call them what what is I forget what the word is for for Jews that believe in Jesus Christ and have accepted him, they call him a agnostic, maybe Jew. I can't remember what it is, but I call him a Christian. I mean, you can't keep the Jew word on you. You can't. Once you become once you become accepted of Jesus Christ, you're a Christian, and that's not a religion, Brian. Religions like The the Christian church, Methodist church, Catholic church, Baptist church, Presbyterian. That's religions. Being a Christian bryan: What that yeah. That's what Jason: is not a religion. bryan: but most religions require you to basically bow Jason: Yeah. bryan: down and accept exactly what they're doing for you to go to heaven. It's not as simple as you just have to believe in Jesus Christ died for your sins. It's you have to do something for that religion to be part of that church. So you part of that family. Is you have to give something. I don't know what it is, but you got to give something to be accepted. Jason: They a they add their own rules to it. bryan: Well that that's my point. All of though. Well I can't say all of Yeah. Jason: Now we become a country club. I've told that a hundred times over. Now we're a country club. We pick and choose who is gonna come in this building, who we're gonna allow to be members, all this stuff. I mean, we're yes. bryan: It that's that that's my exact point. You you not everyone's accepted in the church for who they are. They're accepted in the church for what they give. And to me, my God does not it does not want that. My God wants us all Jason: Cat bryan: together. Jason: Hey, and I we can have comments because I'll probably post some shorts on this too. I don't care. Catholics have say or thinkings too that you can pay so much money to annul your marriage to become a virgin again. bryan: really? I didn't know that. Jason: yeah, yeah. And then you can pray people out of Hades and money. So if somebody didn't live a l good life according to them and may have went to right there the the the pre-stage of hell, which they call Hades, that's hell or heaven, right? You're either gonna be with the Lord or absent of the Lord. That's so if you don't wanna believe in heaven and hell, it's it's with the Lord or absent of the Lord. And to be absent of the Lord God for eternity is gonna be hell. It it could be a lake of fire, it could be hot as hell or or hot, it could be burning That never stops. It could be, I don't know what it is, but to be absent and never have him, his his loving arms around you is for eternity. I'm not talking like 90 years or whatever you live to. I'm talking eternity never stops. To not to be bryan: Yeah, you stole. Jason: absent from that is not going to be a good time. It's not. But, anyways, Catholics believe that with money and prayer you can pray people out of hell. It's not in the Bible. You can't. You have till you take your last breath to confess and to believe that. It's not a prayer. So that prayer that Baptists and Protestants do, I'll cover the whole Protestants. Hey, we're gonna, I want everybody to close their eyes and bow their heads. Nobody looking. Nobody looking, okay. I'm gonna say a prayer. If you haven't accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, I want you to say this prayer with me. It ain't about saying a prayer, people. It's not. How dare you sell call yourself a Christian? It's not saying a prayer, it's believing wholeheartedly that Jesus Christ is who he is. He did what he did, and he died and and and rose in three days and went back with the Lord. That's what makes you a Christian. And then you're you're filled with the Holy Spirit and you're born again. It's not means you come out. He tried to explain that to a Pharisee real quick quick, Nicodemus. And Nicodemus was like, How do you go back in your mother's womb and come out again when you're already born? It's not, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a meant mental thing that you're changed. You have turned from your old ways of living for yourself and being sin. You know what I'm saying? Living in sin. You're not sinless, you're just sinning less. Does that make sense? You will never be sinless. You will never be free of sin. You're just gonna s hopefully sin less, that you're gonna be make changes. You're gonna be about the the Ten Commandments. And your fruit will show that, right? Because you don't you can't do anything to earn it. But once you get it, your works will show that you're a Christian. Your your your life will show that. People will be like, Man, I I don't know what's up with Brian, but he's a changed man. I'm loving it, dude. That dude's putting an aura out. It's just leaking off of you. And it bryan: I just Jason: won't be it won't be hard. It might be at first, but if you give into it and fully submit to the Lord. you'll y people I mean, like I said, it there'll be a change in you. And it does bryan: I just think Jason: what, go ahead. bryan: so. We we got over four hundred thousand churches. And I I know we church is religion and what you accept, I understand all that, but I'm taking this in the simplest form because most people are going to think about this in the simplest form. Yeah, four hundred thousand churches, yet we have all these issues in our country and we have so much Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: bad happening in our country. I just believe if religions were more open and churches were more open to accepting just people and not You come in and I'm gonna convince you that the Lord is your savior. I'm gonna convince you that, you know, by telling you the word of the Lord, not fucking manipulating it to get your money, I'm gonna ex I'm gonna convince you that Jesus died for your sins by reading Jason: Mm-hmm. bryan: and going over the scripture with you. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna go over the scripture and we're gonna, Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. bryan: you know, instead of saying you have to give yourself to me and then Once you give yourself to me, we're gonna, you're gonna be able to go to heaven. Or just accept somebody that walks in to church that's been down. They might have just pulled themselves out of a three-day bender, you know, and they gone into church. And the last thing they need to be is judged by everybody in the church. If more churches did that, I think we would have more people accepting to the Lord. I don't think we have enough accepting religions, is it was my whole point. Jason: You sound like a true Christian preacher right now, buddy, that truly preaches from by cover to cover. That's exactly right. That's the gospel right there, Brian. The Lord accepts everybody. You don't have to clean yourself up to become a Christian. That's what people say. Well, I'll I need to clean myself up first. No, God takes you as you are. bryan: Exact yeah. That's my God. That's how I feel my God is. Jason: He'll meet you where you're at, and I'll meet you where you're at. I'm not judging you. I'm not do I judge you, Brian? Okay, then. bryan: No, no, I get you. No, no. That's why I'm bringing this up. Jason: But we're also told to congregate. But we you're right. We need to check ourselves. We need to check the people in the church. I've done it before up there at the pulpit as a deacon or whatever, getting up and saying, hey, read these. I've read some verses and it might upset some people. What I call out, right? That we need to do a better job of taking care of our community. We're we're worried about a a $200,000, $300,000 budget for our church. Where's that money going? The building? But we got people bryan: The building, fine. Jason: out in our community starving. Maybe we need to downsize our building then. Why why is our overhead that high? This is becoming like a business, not the Lord's work. The Lord's work should never weren't run like a company. It shouldn't. And I'm telling you that group we do, we call it House Church. That go read Acts. Go read Acts in the Bible if you ever get a chance. I know you said you've been reading some just I think you what, the book of Enoch or whatever or not E bryan: Yeah, well I I start yeah, I started like in the Old Testament. I was it I got away from it for a little while because it was getting dark and I was you know, I talked to my wife about it. So it's like, you know, I just put it down for a little bit. But yeah. Jason: Go read Acts. That's how the church is supposed to be. And it wasn't about a building. It was about people in the community coming together, people putting all their money. Now that I know you're going to say, well, that's socialism, like Bernie wants us to all do. But I'm saying nobody in the community needed for nothing. Nobody suffered in that community. And I'm I'm all about that. Now I'm all about people pulling their weight too. I guarantee they check them people up that are just sitting at home trying to to mooch off everybody. They're probably like, hey, get your butt up and come out in the fields and help us thrash wheat. Yes, bryan: It probably like the Amish and the Mennonites then. Jason: yes, kind of that same concept. But dude, come on. They're they got their own stuff too. bryan: They're very strict. Jason: Yes, they are. And it's not fully biblical because everybody, there's got to be control with it. Watch the book of Eli, people. I know y you've watched it right with Denzel. bryan: I've never seen it, no. Jason: my God, you gotta watch it. It shows how how how much power corrupt can be in this book when people the wrong people get their hands on it. Go watch that movie. It's a great great movie to watch. bryan: But I I I I I believe that because now when you y you see how politics is trying to take over Christianity, Jason: yeah. bryan: you know, and it's like that that shouldn't be together. It's not the same. Jason: Was Lindsey Graham not always throwing guilt trips to the American people to get on board with this because God would want it and this is what the Bible said? I mean, shut the hell up, dude. That was Old Testament. That was pre Jesus. Jesus came, so we didn't have to do this no more. You can't tell me it didn't hurt God's heart. He did it, but to kill his own people, he he created the Philistines and the Palestinians. He created all them people. He created everybody. But he's wiping them off the face of the earth. Noah, right? The great flood. He killed everybody he created except for that family. bryan: Do over. Jason: Can't say yeah, yeah. Well reset F disk, or what do they call that back in the day in the bryan: Yeah, can we can we run this back? Jason: yeah, control alt delete, reset. Like I'm gonna do a that where when you go to C. DOS prompt and you and you wipe your hard drive. That's what, but yeah, I mean, but I love you, bud. You know I love you, and I know you're bryan: All right. Yeah, I like too. Jason: a good person, but and I hate saying that, but it's a simple thing. It it's it's so simple. The gospel of God, a Christianity, is is simple. And it it changes people. It does. It does change. bryan: Okay. Well I'm I thought this was a great discussion. What you think? You enjoyed that? Jason: And yeah. No, I I love it. Yes, I did. I did. I wasn't even scared about it, like, he's gonna get me he's gonna pin me up and I didn't. No. No. bryan: No. I wasn't trying to pin you up. I was just curious. I was not trying it's not a gotcha moment. No, I wasn't trying Jason: Nope. bryan: to do any of that. Just Jason: Nope. We can have more of these. Sorry for anybody bryan: Just a general discussion. Jason: that thought that they went to church for a little bit. I'm not asking for ties and offering or support bryan: Ha ha Jason: our ch I'm not asking for that. I'm just asking for just get in the book, read it. Read it cover to cover. Don't let a religion tell you. Go find one and read it. Make sure it's not Schofield though. We I think we already proved. bryan: That's right. Don't no no school field. Jason: Yeah, because it's put planting stuff in there for the bryan: Yeah. Jason: for Israel. Just Go pick you up a Bible. bryan: You got anything else? No. Jason: No. Good good one. Thank you. bryan: You're welcome. Thanks everyone for joining us tonight. I greatly appreciate you joining us. It was a pleasure spending time with you. Until next time, this is the Sense and Census Podcast. I'm Brian. Jason: I'm Jason. bryan: Peace. Jason: East.