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#240: Seed of Chucky (2004) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Welcome. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favours. And least favorite scary movies?
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  Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its fan
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  base. Even if we don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis, my name is Jesse.
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  And welcome everybody. We're returning back to our
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  Chucky series coverage this month, today and.
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  Come in fresh off of me and Alex Vincent and Christine Elise.
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  Yeah, who have nothing to do with this one.
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  It's weirdly. Yeah.
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  Yeah, but, you know, it was cool.
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  We got to see get to see a little Andy and Kyle and and.
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  They're best buddies in real life too.
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  Yeah, so adorable. I'm sorry, I called him little
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  Andy. He's a he's a full grown man
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  now. He's a full grown man, but in
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  our hearts will always feel that adorable little kiddo.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  So we're talking about Cedar Chucky.
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  We are talking about a little 1 today.
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  So yeah, that's that's gonna be the conversation.
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  We're gonna get into that here momentarily, but before we do,
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  do you have any announcements? Kind of more just like kind of a
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  precursor. We are coming off a Scarfest
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  weekend. We are very tired.
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  We are finding random bruises in various places.
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  We haven't eaten enough food over the past 72 hours.
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  Our bodies are just like rebelling against us.
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  Plus, you know, the general concord that comes with stuff
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  like this. So like, we haven't we're not
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  super caught up on all of our Halloween, our screen scream no.
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  And I I don't have any voodoo background.
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  Frankly, the fact that I am vertical enough to record this
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  episode today is nothing short of a miracle.
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  So I'm really sorry about that cuz I know that was the thing
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  that I was really striving to do with this franchise, but the
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  timing and the way everything worked out, just it is what it
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  is. Yeah, Scarefest is like a big
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  weekend for us. Like we're pretty much occupied
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  for the full 72 hours. Yeah, so we, I don't have polls
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  for today either cuz I wasn't able to do that.
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  Yeah, we didn't have time to post polls.
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  It's just it's been, it's been really exhausting in like a
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  really, really good way. And if you ever have the option
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  to a horror convention, highly recommend it.
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  It's amazing. It's an amazing experience.
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  It's definitely become a yearly tradition for us, but it's also
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  become a yearly tradition to be beaten within an inch of your
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  life by the end of. It so OK, now that you guys know
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  what's up, we are gonna get into our little brief recaps of our
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  Scream Scream movies, the movies that we have watched throughout
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  October. That we've, that we've, like I
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  said, we're behind a couple of movies.
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  Yeah, we'll, we'll recap the ones we've watched since last
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  week, 'cause I think the last time we talked about was final
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  girls. It was my new pick.
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  OK, so then I had a new pick on the 13th and I chose Zombieland
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  Double Tap. So that was something that was
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  new to both of us, and I'm pleasantly surprised with the
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  sequel to that movie. I had 0 hope that it would hold
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  up to the original, but I actually really really enjoyed
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  it and I definitely feel like watching it again.
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  I. Think the thing that really won
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  us both over was when Luke Wilson and Thomas Middleditch
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  were like the mirror images of Woody Harrelson and Jesse.
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  I love those I love both those weirdos.
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  We we often love having the witches, the superior Wilson
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  talk. It's a joke.
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  I'm not really pitting brother against brother, but.
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  Unless. Unless, unless Luke, you wanna
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  come be our friends, then I'll. Then you win.
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  I'll tell you who I've always thought was the superior Wilson.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  So that was that one. So the next is a familiar.
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  Yeah, Scream 3 'cause we were just trying to get in like the
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  headspace for our cosplays and that's what we did on Sunday was
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  Jen Jolie and her bodyguard Stone.
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  Yeah. And then on the following day,
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  the 15th, I did Halloween 5 because again, that was one of
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  our costumes. I was Loomis from Halloween 5
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  and Jesse was Tina. Not enough people showed Tina
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  the respect she deserved. No they didn't.
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  It's just more of a testament to how disrespected that entry is.
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  Disrespect. Don't care for it.
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  So then after that on the 16th was a new pic from Jesse.
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  I wanted to watch dream scenario.
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  Y'all, this is monumental in this household, Jesse.
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  Chose a movie starring Nick Cage.
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  She picked a Nick Cage movie. Like that's like unheard of.
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  But I saw the trailer in theaters, like, obviously a
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  while back when the movie first came out.
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  And I was like, I understand that that's Nick Cage, but I'm
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  actually really excited to go see this.
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  So. Yeah.
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  It's on Max. Yeah.
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  Our good buddy Max. Yeah.
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  And if you haven't watched it, just watch it.
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  It's weird. Yeah.
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  Like good, weird. It was one of those ones I was
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  interested whenever I saw, like, the poster originally on last
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  and read the premises, like, oh, that sounds like it could be
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  cool. And then I watched the trailer
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  and I was like, it looks like it's really weird.
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  And then, yeah, you did that, and it's a really weird, good
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  movie. And if you enjoyed our little
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  nod to David Byrne and giant suit on our episode covering We
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  Summon the Darkness, then you will definitely enjoy the little
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  joke that comes up in Dream Scenario.
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  Yeah, that was so funny how that worked out.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  And then after that, I had a new pick.
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  I chose Tremors 5 Bloodlines because we still haven't
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  finished that series yet, but we're almost.
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  There. Yeah, we've been collecting the
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  movies, and we didn't realize Jamie Kennedy was in that one
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  until we were at the kickoff trivia for Scarefest.
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  Yeah, and that was one of the questions.
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  Yeah, we're like, we should just go home and watch this.
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  And you know what? Really enjoyed it.
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  I don't think I'm ever going to find a Tremors movie I don't
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  enjoy. No, they're all fun.
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  They're all fun in their own way.
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  And I had a good time with it too.
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  Looking forward to six. So then finally on, Jesse got a
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  pick. Yes, we, it was a familiar and I
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  went with Slaughterhouse because we met Bradley Fowler, the
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  writer and creator of Slaughterhouse, and he's a cool
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  fucking guy. And he's got a million sequels
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  planned as long as the the distribution company he works
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  with will green light him. He was really passionate about
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  the whole thing. He is really interested and
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  meeting fans and you know, that's always a fun experience
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  as yeah, going to these kinds and being able to have those
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  conversations with those people. Yes, and he actually told us
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  something really cool to avoid, like copyright issues with
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  images of sloths. He took the head of A2 toed
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  sloth and put it on the body of a three toed sloth.
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  So again, Alpha's design is one-of-a-kind.
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  Why the hell are they copywriting sloth appearances?
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  I don't know. Yeah, like this is this is the
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  problem with capital. It is.
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  Yep, OK. And then that's it for now, but
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  we've. Got to catch up a few days where
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  it's pick. It back up to tonight after we
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  record this actually. As we eat some chili because
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  it's good chili weather. Exactly.
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  So OK, that now brings us into Seed of Chucky.
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  Yeah. So let's do this.
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  Let's get into this right so Seed of Chucky released November
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  12th, 2004. We watched it on the Blu-ray
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  that Jesse bought us. Here this.
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  Year cuz we found a copy of it. She called me out on the last
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  episode about us not having it, and then she went out and she
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  fixed the problem herself. I find problems and I find
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  solutions. She does.
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  But if you don't have a Jesse that can fix your problems for
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  you, you can. You can get one.
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  Yeah, you should get one. I recommend it very much.
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  But if you don't, you can just stream it on Netflix.
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  That's where it's available right now.
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  Or you can rent it on Amazon or YouTube or Apple.
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  Written and directed by Don Mancini.
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  I did not realize that this was the first one he directed.
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  I thought he started with the next one.
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  Yeah, I didn't realize that he directed this one either, but.
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  So yeah, good for him. You got to start.
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  Music by Pinot Dinagio. Special effects by Tony Gardner,
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  who did the animatronics and was the special effects supervisor.
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  Starring Jennifer Tilley as Tiffany and herself, Brad Duriff
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  as Chucky, Billy Boyd as Glenn and Glynda Redmond as himself,
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  Hannah Spirit as Joan, Steve West as Stan, and John Waters as
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  Pete Peters. Yes.
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  I love that we got John Waters. I know, yeah.
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  I was watching some of the special feature stuff while you
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  were in the shower and he was just like gushing about Truckee.
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  He wants the series. I love that.
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  I honestly, I'd love John Waters.
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  So it's nice having his endorsement of the franchise and
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  I'm sure it's gonna be huge for Don Mancini.
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  How you get that? All right, time for our favorite
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  game on the show. Budget or Buck Ted.
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  OK, So what do you think? OK, so I know people were kind
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  of like unsure about the route it took with Bread of Chucky.
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  Like the more on the nose comedic route.
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  Yeah. So I think high bug Ted.
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  High bug, Ted. OK.
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  So this is actually budget. OK, good for it, Good for it.
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  Yep, it had a $12 million budget nice had opening box office of
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  eight million, OK, worldwide gross 24,000,000.
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  So it made twice what it had. So I think that's the formula
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  right for. 3 * 3 times Yeah, because you got to take into
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  account like advertising and everything too.
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  Well luckily this was like at the end of the the physical
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  media rental era so they still made that money back at least
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  IMDb 4.9. Fucking rude. 4.9.
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  Fucking rude. OK, so I have a theme of 2004
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  movies here. OK.
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  And that theme is? I thought you were saying the
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  theme was 2004 and I was really go gun.
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  It is, but it is also something else.
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  It is fucked up family. OK.
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  That feels appropriate. Yeah.
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  All right, so the one to kick it all off?
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  Tremors 4. So if you're not familiar with
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  Tremors 4, it's a prequel of like, it's like a western.
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  Yeah, perfection. Yeah, 1 Perfection is like a
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  mining town. Yeah, and it's like birds
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  ancestor, whatever. It's got a lot of like the same
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  recurring cast members just playing ancestral versions of
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  themselves. Yeah.
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  So it's cool and you get to see their own little weird side of
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  history there. So that released January 2nd,
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  2000. Four $5 million budget.
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  Don't have a gross since it was straight to DVD but the IMDb is
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  5.3. OK yeah not too bad.
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  Second movie saw. OK, you got a whole litter of
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  people to pick from here with the fucked up family.
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  Larry Gordon. Lawrence Gordon, a doctor
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  excuse. Me.
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  No, I love that though. Call him.
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  Larry, because you. Know that would drive him crazy.
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  Larry G. Larry G, Larry GI Don't know
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  what his profession is. I don't know.
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  Maybe he works in a hospital. Where Larry G, the nurse.
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  Yeah, you know that that would drive him fucking insane.
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  So you got him. You have John Kramer.
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  Just for the record, we're not disrespecting nurses.
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  We're saying that Larry G would disrespect.
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  Yeah, his ego would not allow him to, like, see himself as a
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  nurse and be cool with that. Like, he's, he's not a good guy.
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  I, you know, nurses are fantastic.
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  Thank you guys for doing what you do.
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  Any nurses listening out there? And then, yeah, of course, John
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  Kramer, who, you know, his wife is the one that suffers in this,
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  although she kind of ends up being a piece of shit herself.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  So I don't know, there's a lot of people to pick from here.
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  There's yeah, there's, there's a lot going on, so.
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  So that released October 29th, 2004 $1.2 million Budget $103
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  million gross IMDb 7.6 correct? Yes, very correct.
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  And the final movie, Ginger Saps 2 Unleashed.
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  That one is pretty decent. It was interesting seeing the
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  way that they were going to continue it, all things
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  considered. Yeah, I fucking hate the third
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  one. I hate the third one too and it
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  was released the same year so I almost chose that one.
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  I was really shocked to see the IMDb rating.
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  It's like in the sixes, people like it.
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  Wait for the third one. Yeah dude it's such a generic
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  monster movie. Don't have any of the heart that
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  the 1st 2 have. It was weird because I remember
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  we watched all three of them back-to-back to back because we
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  were on. 7th Circle film. Yeah, they're podcasts to talk
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  about the franchise and yeah, the the 1st 2 are good.
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  Yeah, first one's amazing. I love the first one and the
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  second one's all right. So yeah, that one, the the
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  fucked up family, by the way, is the sister and that.
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  Yeah, not Ginger, but fuck, what's her name?
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  I can't remember the sister's name.
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  Bridget. There you go.
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  Yeah, yeah, her. So she's having to deal with
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  shit from her fucked up sister in this movie.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  So that released April 13th, 2004, $3.5 million budget
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  $343,000 gross 6.4 IMDb. OK.
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  So yeah, it's got some love up there, yeah.
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  That's good, at least. All right, I've got our tag
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  lines. OK.
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  All right, so there are two on the poster.
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  The first one in the biggest font size is Fear the Second
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  Coming. OK.
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  Then then at the bottom this November, this November and get
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  a load of Chucky, Yeah. I can I say the amount of dull
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  semen we saw in this movie I was not fully prepared for.
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  Yeah, I've got questions about it that we'll maybe address once
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  we get to that point in the movie.
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  So the final two, time to raise some hell.
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  Not too bad. That's cute.
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  And deliver us from evil. That's pretty generic.
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  Yeah, that's a little bit of a stretch right there.
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  I think maybe like delivering a child type deal is what they're
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  going for. I.
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  Forget what they're going for, but that's just a very generic
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  kind of tagline. Sorry, I agree.
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  OK, so let's do some fun facts. All right, so they were
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  discussing that the trend of the series from like where it
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  started to where Bride landed was they realized it was
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  trending more towards horror comedy.
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  Apparently Bride of Chucky was a parody of the romance films.
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  Stuff like that. So in this one right here, they
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  decided they wanted to parody a domestic drama.
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  OK. So that's why we get the turmoil
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  between Chucky and Tiffany and stuff like that.
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  Yeah, Actually, one of the cool things I've noticed about this
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  is this time around they were actually able to act with the
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  dolls on set, actually, with their recorded dialogue.
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  Oh cool. Yeah, so I guess all a behind
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  the scenes thing of Jennifer Tilley doing the part where she
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  sees Tiffany and then she screams and then like, you know,
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  she's actually hearing Tiffany speak to her in her voice.
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  Yeah. It was really cool.
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  Production began on October 18th, 1998.
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  It was going to be called Son of Chucky two days after Bride of
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  Chucky's release. Because it was such a success,
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  they immediately started. Ronnie, you couldn't return
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  because he had scheduling conflicts.
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  So this opened up the opportunity for Don Mancini to
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  step in and do the directing. He wanted to explore more LGBT
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  related themes in this next film, so he decided to take
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  inspiration from a 1953 film called Glenn or Gwenda.
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  OK, yeah, It's an exploitation film that kind of, you can kind
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  of just get it based off of the title and you like, you know,
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  went from more of a comedic tone.
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  Claimed that slasher icons of the time.
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  So like Freddie, Michael, Jason. He said that all of them were
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  already becoming less scary anyways because audiences were
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  getting more familiar with them. Yeah.
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  So he said instead of taking Chucky in that direction, he
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  wanted to just lean into the the comedy aspect.
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  You know, like, he's not going to be scary anymore, so at least
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  let's make him funny or something.
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  Yeah, Give him his own little fresh spin.
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  I like that take on it, like, OK, well we know what's going to
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  happen with the audience anyway, so how do we lean into that?
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  Yeah, I it makes a lot of sense. I can see why and I respect that
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  decision. Universal expected a traditional
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  slasher whenever they first were approving this thing.
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  They got the script and rejected it and sent a note back saying
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  just too gay. Wow.
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  Yeah, I know, right? So they instead went forward
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  with Focus Features and had it distributed by Rogue Pictures.
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  All right, well, massive respect to Focus features and rogue
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  pictures for not isn't that weird?
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  Big judgement on Universal. That's so weird that you just
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  send a note that just says too gay.
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  Like I yeah, it's a. How do you say that to a human?
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  You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm glad that it was still
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  able to be made, Yeah. Because like, you really don't
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  have a lot of control with that stuff in Hollywood.
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  Like you're kind of at the mercy of these big companies.
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  Also Glenn slash Glenda being gender fluid has nothing to do
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  with sexuality. That's that's a gender identity
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  thing is a completely different thing I.
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  Wonder if the script was different maybe?
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  Maybe it could have been, yeah, there was six years between when
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  production started versus when it released.
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  Yeah, that's insane that there was such a big time script.
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  Yeah. And the final thing that I have
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  is before referring the role to Redmond, he originally offered
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  it to Tarantino, but Tarantino declined, so he got Redmond
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  instead. Wild.
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  I can see it and weirdly I could kind of see Tarantino wanting to
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  do that cuz I know that he also liked to act, but I think that
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  he might take him. He might be Larry Gordon.
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  Yeah, in this. Sense right here where he thinks
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  he's too good for it or something.
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  I wonder if it would feel a little bit too weird for him
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  where he is also a director, to be playing a director that
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  sleeps with actresses. Yeah.
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  Them a lead, I wonder if that was just kind of a maybe not the
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  best PR move kind of decision for him.
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  OK, that's that's all my special fun facts.
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  So they're special this week apparently.
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  Yeah, because I say so. Yeah, yeah.
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  So that means we are into our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  So Jesse, you kick it off. What did you like about this
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  one? My good.
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  I love that this movie gave a lot of space to Glenn and
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  Glenda. I'm just gonna use both names
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  when referring to them throughout this movie because
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  it, you know, the whole thing is that they're fluid.
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  It's. They're fluid, but they seem to
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  like make it very clear when they're presenting as one or the
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  other. Until it gets to the point where
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  they say out loud that sometimes they feel like a boy, sometimes
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  they feel like a girl, which I really appreciated having that
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  like on film, having that description for people who might
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  not be familiar with the concept.
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  I think that's really like groundbreaking breaking,
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  especially in a franchise as popular as the Chucky franchise
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  is. I also I really, really love
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  like the idea, the exploration of why they kill like and it
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  really just comes down to because.
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  They it's a hobby. Yeah.
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  We like to unwind. It makes us less stressed.
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  Like, that was really funny. I like that.
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  And I also like at the end where Chucky was just like embracing
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  being the infamous killer doll. I think that's such a huge
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  turning point for his character. That's one of my favorite scenes
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  where he's just like, he's like, I am infamous.
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  I'm fucking Chucky the killer doll.
• 20:16
  I have a like legacy. Cuz he spent so much of the
• 20:19
  franchise up until this point desperately trying to get back
• 20:22
  into a human body and now he's just like fuck it maybe this is
• 20:26
  better. You know what, it's kind of
• 20:27
  weird because maybe that was matter for the movie to where
• 20:31
  like, hey, we're doing this new thing with Chucky where he's
• 20:34
  like more of a comedic character.
• 20:36
  And then at the end he's like, fuck it, I want to go back to
• 20:38
  being a slasher villain. Yeah.
• 20:40
  And then like, actually from the movies here on now, he actually
• 20:44
  does go back more of a traditional slasher.
• 20:46
  So it's kind of cool. Cool.
• 20:47
  Yeah. OK.
• 20:49
  You got anything else? Those are the main goods for me.
• 20:51
  Oh also, God, fucking the fun they had with Tiffany and then
• 20:58
  also bringing in Jennifer Tilley as herself and the fun that they
• 21:02
  have with all of that, like making references to her voice,
• 21:06
  the three-way call with Joan. Like.
• 21:09
  All of that's so fun. So My good is kind of playing
• 21:15
  into that right there. I think that they offered a
• 21:18
  better premise to do more meta commentary because they said it
• 21:23
  in Hollywood with Jennifer Tilley.
• 21:26
  So it makes a lot of sense to be making these comments.
• 21:28
  I like this approach better than what they were doing before
• 21:31
  where they were referencing other franchises and also kind
• 21:35
  of like the movies themselves in a way.
• 21:37
  I don't know, like it was, It's fine at times, but I just like
• 21:41
  this approach better. I thought Gwen was a really cool
• 21:44
  addition. I like the design of the doll or
• 21:46
  Gwen and Gwenda. Excuse me, the design's really
• 21:49
  cool. I like that.
• 21:50
  It's like a like. They did a good job combining
• 21:53
  both elements of the characters. Yes.
• 21:55
  Right there. Yeah.
• 21:57
  I mean, finally, I I think it's a pretty funny film.
• 22:00
  Like I I think that it hits the good comedic beats.
• 22:03
  Chucky really leans into being a like a humorous character this
• 22:07
  summer round. Like I said before, this is the
• 22:09
  one that made my friend not scared of Chucky whenever I
• 22:12
  showed it to him as a kid. And like, watching it again
• 22:14
  today I'm like, oh I can see why.
• 22:15
  Because they'd never even like play him as being really that
• 22:19
  much of A threat. He's just kind of telling jokes
• 22:22
  and being funny most of the time.
• 22:24
  OK, so bad. Bad.
• 22:29
  I'm struggling. I think there's something bad
• 22:31
  about this. Oh wow, really?
• 22:32
  I know a lot of people like hate on it, but I don't really get
• 22:35
  the hate for it. I love it.
• 22:37
  It's one of my favorites in the franchise.
• 22:40
  OK, trying to think of like things I would maybe change and
• 22:46
  do. You want me to go?
• 22:50
  Yeah, yeah. Inspire you.
• 22:52
  So my thing I guess is like things just kind of happen and
• 22:58
  we don't really get anything explaining like so Glenn and
• 23:04
  magically finds out exactly how to get to the studio and this is
• 23:07
  all just like happens. OK, that's a good that's a
• 23:09
  really good point. They they escaped from Sykes and
• 23:13
  just. Just get over there.
• 23:15
  Yeah, immediately. Like, yeah, 2 minutes later in
• 23:18
  the film, they're right there with Chucky and Tiffany.
• 23:23
  And then also things like how did Chucky know how to go to
• 23:27
  John Waters office in a random building in LA, one of the most
• 23:32
  populated cities on the planet. It also like it just feels more
• 23:36
  cartoony. Yeah.
• 23:38
  It it I liked the feel of the other films.
• 23:41
  I really liked like the gothic vibe of Bride of Chucky and then
• 23:46
  this one. It just kind of, there's
• 23:48
  something about it. It felt more like I was watching
• 23:50
  a cartoon, which I don't want as much for these movies.
• 23:56
  There's just something weird about it.
• 23:58
  I can't really put my finger on it, but it's just it's more out
• 24:00
  there. I kind of like having this
• 24:02
  bizarre character, but in a grounded world.
• 24:05
  And then, yeah, they just the way that they did certain things
• 24:08
  and certain scenes unfolded, like the Britney Spears scene
• 24:10
  and stuff like that. Like, yeah, they're all just
• 24:12
  kind of like. That's, you know what, Yeah.
• 24:14
  I don't like that Britney Spears scene because it feels so out of
• 24:16
  pocket. Yeah, it's just, it's so weird.
• 24:19
  And yeah, I I could do without that.
• 24:23
  What did Britney do to you, Don Mancini?
• 24:26
  I know. Right.
• 24:26
  And what did Julia Roberts do to Jennifer Chili?
• 24:29
  Yeah, I I get making fun of yourself, but like, you know,
• 24:34
  making fun of these other people that have no involvement in the
• 24:36
  movie is a completely different thing.
• 24:38
  OK for me ugly. OK, there are a few different
• 24:45
  things that you could pull up, obviously, like the predatory
• 24:50
  nature of paparazzi and studios and like people in charge, like
• 24:55
  Redmond as a director, like. But I think one of the big
• 25:01
  things that I'm going to highlight for this specifically,
• 25:03
  it's something we've talked about before on the show, like
• 25:06
  profiting off of like a tragedy is always like there's a fine
• 25:11
  line. And the fact that the studio is
• 25:14
  like knowingly using dolls that were found at a crime scene and
• 25:20
  it's an unsolved murder. You're right, I didn't even
• 25:24
  really think of that, but that's that's really scummy.
• 25:26
  If that happened in real life, I would be put off by that.
• 25:30
  Like even in the Annabelle movies, it is based off of like
• 25:34
  a true report, but it's a different doll, you know what I
• 25:37
  mean? It's even a different design.
• 25:39
  I mean, it's a whole other thing to take, like a story that
• 25:42
  really happened and make a movie based off of it.
• 25:44
  But to, like, use the actual thing.
• 25:46
  Yeah, that's. That is a whole other thing.
• 25:48
  Yeah. Well, you kind of summed up the
• 25:51
  two that I had there. I had the paparazzi and Redmond
• 25:54
  in my uglies because. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:56
  Paparazzi, I hate how, I mean, they're predatory in their own
• 25:59
  way. And so is Redmond in this thing
• 26:01
  where he's like, basically offering it to whoever sleeps
• 26:05
  with in the role of the movie there.
• 26:07
  And it's really disgusting. So yeah, I don't like seeing
• 26:10
  this stuff. OK, Absurd.
• 26:15
  I love this. So in the second one, when in
• 26:19
  the second one, Jesus, the one before this one, Bride of
• 26:23
  Chucky, Bride of Chucky, yes. I don't know where second one
• 26:25
  came from. I'm sorry.
• 26:28
  They have a joke about, you know, Chuck.
• 26:31
  He's like, oh, what are you gonna do, push the pedals while
• 26:34
  I steer? Yeah.
• 26:35
  And then they do that exact thing to get to Peter's studio.
• 26:40
  I think that's really funny. Yeah, I thought that that was
• 26:42
  funny. Yeah.
• 26:44
  So my first one is that Joan writes all of Jennifer Tilly's
• 26:51
  fake fan mail. And just send.
• 26:53
  It to her yeah, that was really funny and then also Martha
• 26:57
  Stewart is being executed in this.
• 26:59
  Universe, yeah for. Some horrific crime that she
• 27:02
  did. We don't know what it is that
• 27:03
  she did, but it must have been fucked up.
• 27:06
  I, I think that it's that's so funny that they did that.
• 27:09
  It's. Bizarre.
• 27:10
  That was before she even went to jail, right?
• 27:11
  So like. So that's.
• 27:13
  Crazy. That is really weird.
• 27:15
  That's yeah, it's kind of funny. He almost like predicted the the
• 27:21
  legal issues. Yeah.
• 27:23
  OK. So what do you rate this then?
• 27:28
  I think I want to get this an 8.75.
• 27:31
  I really, really love it. I like this one, I want it to
• 27:37
  but I do put it down there towards the bottom for me
• 27:40
  because all the other ones are just like so good.
• 27:42
  It's 1 of this is really one of those franchises that it's just
• 27:45
  really strong throughout. Yeah, exactly.
• 27:48
  I think I'd give this one like a 675 all.
• 27:53
  Right. So 7.75 is our starting average.
• 27:56
  OK. I think that that's appropriate
• 27:58
  for this. Yeah.
• 28:00
  All right, so let's get started. Let's.
• 28:03
  Get it started. So we start off the opening
• 28:07
  credits. Our biology class start off with
• 28:11
  the semen right away. Poorly animated semen.
• 28:14
  Yeah, it's it's kind of a staple.
• 28:16
  Not the semen part, but like the the poor special effects
• 28:20
  animation that's let. It dry, it could be, you know,
• 28:24
  stick some things. Together.
• 28:27
  Yeah, I guess so, yeah. But I just like see, I guess.
• 28:31
  Like the child we're seeing, the conception.
• 28:35
  I don't fucking know. And then we see a child open up
• 28:38
  a present. Yeah, we see a child opening up
• 28:42
  a present. Everything's first person.
• 28:44
  I love the way that this opening is shot like.
• 28:46
  This I feel so bad for Glenn Glenda in this like that they
• 28:53
  have these kinds of recurring nightmares and.
• 28:56
  Yeah, this is really cool though.
• 28:58
  Like the way that I just love the way it's shot.
• 29:00
  So like, they're all really disgusted by this.
• 29:03
  That is really upsetting that this is your dreams happening
• 29:06
  all the time. Just everybody reminding you
• 29:07
  that you're ugly. And then they get put back in
• 29:10
  the box and then in the middle of the night, get out.
• 29:12
  It was a birthday, so there's a knife in a birthday cake in.
• 29:15
  The fucking cake with the knife out on the table like that.
• 29:18
  These. Fucking humans.
• 29:19
  And like then Richard has the audacity to get mad at Claudia
• 29:24
  for thinking that she left her dolls on the floor.
• 29:27
  Yeah, with the cake also just out.
• 29:28
  I mean, yeah, the whole place is a mess right now.
• 29:31
  You can't be the you can't cast saying stoned yourself, buddy.
• 29:35
  So. Is that a good example?
• 29:36
  Yeah. Well, he's he's kind of excited
• 29:39
  because the wife is up there. He's like, hey, I'm heading in
• 29:42
  the shower and he's like, I'll be right there.
• 29:45
  No trying to put the cake up. He's like walking through the
• 29:47
  hallway with his robe on and sees Glenn Glenda standing there
• 29:52
  and scolds the daughter. Yeah, yells at Claudia but then
• 29:55
  gets stabbed and falls over the banister.
• 29:59
  So cool. I think the thing that really
• 30:02
  impresses me the most about this is how it's kind of like a
• 30:05
  single shot type. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:08
  I'm sure that they definitely split some things up here, but
• 30:11
  it plays seamlessly. Yeah, so he goes back upstairs,
• 30:16
  goes into the bathroom and that's where they sorry.
• 30:20
  And that's where they go to the the mom showering and then she
• 30:25
  just basically just gets scared to.
• 30:27
  Death, yeah. And.
• 30:27
  Just strips out of the shower and breaks her neck or
• 30:30
  something. I don't.
• 30:31
  Know how that hits her head for sure because there's like a lot
• 30:33
  of blood pulling up. Yeah.
• 30:36
  They go into the daughter's room to try and stab her, but she's
• 30:39
  not in the bed and said walks in and it's like you killed my mom
• 30:44
  and dad and now you're pissed in your pants.
• 30:46
  You're pissing your pants, you're pissing your pants.
• 30:48
  And that's when Glenn slash Glendale wakes up and Sykes is
• 30:53
  yelling at them, talking about they've got to go out to their
• 30:56
  show. And also that they're pissing
• 30:58
  their pants because they're actually doing.
• 31:01
  Actually, yeah. So the whole thing here is Sykes
• 31:06
  has a sideshow going on where they use them as a like a dummy.
• 31:12
  Yeah, it's kind of like a dirtier Jeff Dunham type thing.
• 31:16
  Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it's really, it's kind
• 31:20
  of about the same in terms of dirtiness right here.
• 31:22
  It's really kind of tame. Well, Sykes, seems like this is
• 31:27
  coming back more outwardly scummy.
• 31:28
  Yeah, he's a pretty shitty dude. So I don't know if this is a
• 31:34
  false memory but I swear I remember in like broadcast
• 31:38
  versions of this movie instead of shit.
• 31:40
  Face it, the name they gave them was puke.
• 31:45
  Face, puke face. Like I it is so deeply ingrained
• 31:50
  in my head so I don't know if that was a real thing or if it's
• 31:54
  just like my brain made a fake memory of it.
• 31:58
  Let's see, I'm gonna look that up cuz I'm really curious about
• 32:02
  that too. I'm sure that they had to do
• 32:03
  something like that because you can't say shit on cave.
• 32:06
  Well, you can, but you. Can, but I don't think you could
• 32:08
  in 2004. Doesn't say.
• 32:11
  OK. It could be if you guys.
• 32:14
  Has this memory. Please.
• 32:15
  Yeah, let us know. Yeah.
• 32:17
  OK. So yeah, they're basically, they
• 32:20
  are being made fun of by the by Sykes, by the crowd.
• 32:24
  Everybody's just laughing about how ugly they are.
• 32:27
  It's really upsetting. Sykes says that they found them
• 32:30
  in a cemetery six years ago. So they just like waltzed up on
• 32:34
  this crime scene and we're like, right, cool taking this doll so.
• 32:38
  The cops were there too, like right away.
• 32:40
  So it was an active crime scene. I'm sure it's impressive that
• 32:44
  they were able to walk away with this.
• 32:45
  Yeah. So yeah, now it is at night.
• 32:49
  We get a voice over from Glenn slash Glenda explaining that,
• 32:54
  like, they know they're an orphan.
• 32:56
  They have these really violent dreams, but they wouldn't even
• 32:58
  hurt a family. And they've just always wondered
• 33:01
  where they come from. They know that they have this
• 33:04
  mark on their wrist. This is made in Japan.
• 33:06
  Yeah. So we cut to a man walking
• 33:10
  through a snowy cemetery. He was wearing a Santa suit and
• 33:12
  he's on the phone saying that he's going to be at his
• 33:15
  girlfriend's house soon and she breaks up with him so he gets
• 33:18
  mad. Obviously it feels fair.
• 33:22
  Yeah, that's fair. And then while he's having this
• 33:24
  conversation, Chucky has cut out the fucking sack.
• 33:28
  Yeah, the toy sack. The toy sack, Yeah.
• 33:30
  So all the toys have spilled all over the place, and then
• 33:33
  Chucky's propped up against the cemetery or the the fucking
• 33:37
  grapes of God, My brain is melted today.
• 33:39
  Yeah, the the stone. So the Santa goes over there and
• 33:44
  it's just kind of checking them out.
• 33:45
  And then as it's happening, Tiffany sinks up from behind
• 33:47
  with the slinky and strangles him to death.
• 33:50
  It. Seems really inefficient.
• 33:52
  Yeah, it does, because it seems. Like it would not be easy to do.
• 33:54
  I think it's it's creative. I I like it is creative I.
• 33:57
  Like strangling somebody with a slinky, that's fun.
• 34:00
  And then the they have the guy, that voice thing.
• 34:03
  Is gonna be used in court someday.
• 34:05
  What's that? That voice clip of you saying I
• 34:07
  like strangling somebody with this language.
• 34:08
  Oh. God.
• 34:09
  Well, OK, I will not do that. Then I'll use another fun toy,
• 34:13
  and that's also gonna be played. Yep.
• 34:14
  All right. So the guy's laying on the
• 34:17
  ground and then they're stabbing him, and then Chucky just keeps,
• 34:19
  like, repeating the line while he's stabbing him.
• 34:21
  I can't remember what he was saying.
• 34:23
  I didn't write it down because I thought you were going to write
• 34:25
  it down. No, but he like keeps like
• 34:27
  stabbing him over and over again.
• 34:28
  And The thing is like, I could see this actually being him.
• 34:30
  Yeah. I thought he was just like going
• 34:33
  to town on the guy, just stabbing him and over it's
• 34:34
  having. A real bad day.
• 34:35
  Yeah. But that's when I find out that
• 34:37
  they're actually on set. The doll is malfunctioning, so
• 34:40
  the actor is really annoyed. An Access Hollywood Reporter is,
• 34:44
  you know, kind of filming some behind the scenes stuff to
• 34:46
  promote the movie. They're using real dolls found
• 34:49
  on the scene of a crime scene of Still Unsolved of MASH murder.
• 34:55
  So. And the special effects guy
• 34:57
  there that's working on the doll is the actual special effects
• 35:00
  guy, Tony Gardner. Yeah.
• 35:02
  Which is really cool. Yeah, Jennifer Tilly is one of
• 35:06
  the stars of the movie. She's supposed to be on a diet,
• 35:08
  but she keeps sneaking around trying to eat different.
• 35:10
  Things. Yeah.
• 35:10
  She's like hiding them in Chucky's.
• 35:12
  Yeah, bras. And she gets mad about Julia
• 35:14
  Roberts always getting all of the roles she wants.
• 35:18
  And that's when her assistant Joan reveals that Redmond needs
• 35:21
  a Virgin Mary for his Bible epic.
• 35:23
  This is inspired by the passion of the Christ for sure.
• 35:27
  Yeah, well, and they even make a reference to Mel Gibson.
• 35:30
  Yeah. So so.
• 35:32
  Yeah, meanwhile back in London, Glenn slash Glenda sees the
• 35:35
  Access Hollywood piece and also sees Chucky's wrist cuz they I
• 35:40
  like that. In universe, Chucky and Tiffany
• 35:43
  also do interviews as the dolls. They did on the Blu-ray, too,
• 35:48
  Did they? Yeah.
• 35:49
  There's a whole thing where Chucky is being interviewed by
• 35:52
  this guy. My God.
• 35:53
  And yeah, they were also Glenn Gwinda and Tiffany and Chucky
• 35:58
  were all doing a thing, too. It was kind of interesting that
• 36:01
  they went into that type of commitment just for the special
• 36:03
  features, but yeah, they get the idea that that's their parents
• 36:07
  and they need to get the hell out of there.
• 36:09
  And then that's when Sykes comes in.
• 36:11
  Sykes is like you need to be scarier and drops a rat in their
• 36:14
  cage and is like basically trying to urge them to kill the
• 36:18
  rat and instead they attack Sykes.
• 36:23
  The rat bites yeah, Sykes finger, which gets them the
• 36:27
  opportunity to run out and they run out of the building and.
• 36:30
  They run like a Twilight character.
• 36:33
  Yeah, they do. Yeah, it's it's funny, but I
• 36:36
  feel like that's the most we've seen a puppet in the series run.
• 36:41
  Yeah, because. Usually they hire.
• 36:44
  Yeah, normally you get like a little shuffle and it's usually
• 36:47
  a little person that's. Just like actually running,
• 36:49
  yeah. Yeah.
• 36:51
  So they make their escape and they're out of here.
• 36:53
  And then we see a little dotted line, a map, and it's going all
• 36:57
  the way to Elway. So they arrive, they're in the
• 37:02
  Hollywood studio with all of these other horror movie props.
• 37:06
  I don't know, this must be Universal Studios or something
• 37:08
  cuz it's got all of like the classic Universal monsters.
• 37:13
  Meanwhile, Jennifer is at Redmond Studio reading for the
• 37:17
  part of Virgin Mary. And he's like, I'm a huge fan of
• 37:21
  yours, but I wanna go with my first choice, who happens to be
• 37:25
  Julia Roberts. And he's like, but I'm a fan.
• 37:28
  I wanna work together. And so Jennifer suggests a more
• 37:30
  intimate meeting later that night.
• 37:32
  Yeah, and all that actually happened before Glenda arrives
• 37:35
  here, so. OK.
• 37:37
  So Glen Glenda is in the studio and finds Chucky and Tiffany,
• 37:42
  but they're like in dog mode. Like kind of sleeper mode
• 37:45
  almost. Yeah, kind of permanently, yeah.
• 37:47
  They I feel like they had to have like some kind of
• 37:49
  reconstruction going on, right. They're they're still is no
• 37:52
  longer active. Yeah.
• 37:54
  And until Glen Glenda reads the inscription on the back of the
• 37:58
  amulet, which they have. Yeah, they still have the amulet
• 38:01
  from Bride of Chucky. And it wakes up Chucky and
• 38:04
  Tiffany. They introduce themselves as
• 38:06
  shit face and Tiffany is like, that's no kind of a name for a
• 38:10
  sweet little thing like you. And then Chucky is of course
• 38:13
  making fun of them and calling them super ugly and saying who
• 38:18
  are your parents? I'm sure they're in hiding
• 38:19
  because they Can you imagine what they look like And then
• 38:23
  when? They reveal the made in Japan.
• 38:25
  Yeah, and Chucky looks down and he's got the exact same thing.
• 38:27
  Yeah, Then a Puppetech comes in and it's saying on the phone
• 38:32
  like they're dolls. They're not just going to get up
• 38:34
  and walk around on their own. If you want them to work, I need
• 38:36
  to fix them. And this scene, props to Tony
• 38:40
  Gardner and the puppeteering that's going on with this,
• 38:43
  because like, the violation showing on Tiffany's face while
• 38:47
  he's being worked on, it was seared in my brain.
• 38:50
  It is awful. One of the things that I that
• 38:53
  stood out to me watching this is that they nailed the facial
• 38:56
  expressions. Like you can tell with each
• 38:58
  movie they get better about getting them more animated and
• 39:01
  having like more actual realistic like features and
• 39:05
  looks. Absolutely.
• 39:06
  Yeah, and so he's got her dress in the back ripped open and then
• 39:11
  unscrews her back and then removes the plate and then it's
• 39:14
  like organs and shit, just like beating in there.
• 39:18
  And that's when Chucky comes up with some like wire and they
• 39:22
  kind of like garrotte. It's a garrotte situation.
• 39:25
  Yeah, wrap it around his neck. And then they both like double
• 39:28
  team him and they just like pull together and decapitate some.
• 39:31
  And they just like look at each other as if they're in love
• 39:34
  again. Yeah, it's.
• 39:35
  All in so emotion. Glenn Glenda is.
• 39:38
  Horrified. Horrified and peas themselves.
• 39:41
  Like this is my I'm so happy that my mom and dad are here.
• 39:44
  This is so cool Oh my God. Yeah, this is like a it's a
• 39:48
  nightmare since you always should have like finding your
• 39:50
  birth parents. Can you imagine?
• 39:51
  You're murderers like the first time, like, Oh my God, we're
• 39:54
  finally a whole family. And then they just like, cut
• 39:56
  somebody's head off right in front of you.
• 39:58
  That's traumatic. This has been Chucky and Tiffany
• 40:01
  start arguing over if this child is a son or a daughter and they
• 40:06
  pull down their pants and they're it's like actual doll
• 40:10
  like, you know. Anatomy.
• 40:12
  Yeah, Yeah. So they kind of argue back and
• 40:16
  forth until Jennifer comes in and she's trying to get her
• 40:19
  secret candy bar that she stuffed in Chucky's over, and
• 40:23
  she finds the tech's head. And she assumes it's a probe at
• 40:26
  first. And then when she realizes it
• 40:27
  isn't, she screams. And then the cops arrive and she
• 40:30
  has to walk out to a crowd of paparazzi, just like trying to
• 40:34
  ask a million questions. Is it a little bit better that
• 40:37
  one of the paparazzi members is John Waters?
• 40:39
  Would that make it a bit? What if he was actually doing
• 40:42
  paparazzi, I mean. I would be like John, be better.
• 40:49
  You don't need to be a paparazzo.
• 40:51
  Yeah. And then, like, while all this
• 40:54
  is happening, her driver is waiting on the other side of the
• 40:57
  of the people. And he just keeps trying to
• 40:59
  rehearse, like, I love you, Tiffany or Jennifer.
• 41:02
  Jennifer, I love you like over and over again.
• 41:05
  And she says she wants to sit up front with him and when she gets
• 41:08
  in she smooches. And the Ray family has sat in
• 41:14
  the back of. Oh, is that what you call them?
• 41:16
  The Ray family? OK.
• 41:17
  I mean, Tiffany on the phone introduces herself as Tiffany
• 41:20
  Ray. Oh, really?
• 41:21
  Yeah, OK, She calls up the widow Bailey.
• 41:24
  I guess they are married. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:25
  OK, no. So yeah, they're all just kind
• 41:28
  of riding and drinking champagne in the back while Jennifer is on
• 41:31
  the phone with her agent, who is trying to get her to get more
• 41:35
  champagne. No, she's talking to Joan.
• 41:37
  Oh, right. Oh, I thought she was agent, but
• 41:39
  that's not. No, that's.
• 41:40
  Her assistant? Assistant.
• 41:41
  Yeah. Anyways, more champagne, gonna
• 41:44
  go meet with Redmond. This gets the driver kind of sad
• 41:47
  because he's in love with her and.
• 41:49
  She's like, don't worry, it's just a meeting, it's all
• 41:51
  business. And in the back Tiffany is like,
• 41:53
  OK, so I'll transfer myself to Jennifer, you transferring to
• 41:57
  Redmond and then we will get a surrogate for our new child.
• 42:01
  And she was like, I'm not going to be pregnant again.
• 42:03
  My mother always said once is a blessing, twice is a curse.
• 42:07
  And Chucky goes well, explains your sister.
• 42:11
  OK, so they set up in Jennifer's attic and Glenn Glenda asks
• 42:18
  about their murder. And Chucky's like, oh, it's
• 42:20
  just, you know, it's a hobby. And they're like, am I going to
• 42:24
  kill him? And Chucky's like, of course
• 42:26
  it's a family tradition. And then Tiffany's like, you
• 42:28
  know what? Maybe they're right.
• 42:29
  Like this is an addiction and we should try and be better now
• 42:32
  that we're parents. I like before that they're like,
• 42:35
  I thought like people always said violence is bad and
• 42:38
  Chucky's like no violins are bad.
• 42:42
  Violins Tiffany is like we need to just quit cold Turkey, set a
• 42:48
  good example for a child and Chucky is like OK, fine, but
• 42:52
  behind his back is crossing his fingers and again it shows how
• 42:55
  far the puppetry is gone. They can get that like finger
• 42:58
  crossing. Motion.
• 42:58
  I know. Yeah, it's really cool.
• 43:00
  So Redmond arrives, and while he's showing up.
• 43:04
  Redmond arrives. Joan comes in and is trying to
• 43:06
  talk Jennifer out of this and saying that it's not like a good
• 43:10
  idea, like you shouldn't sleep with a director, especially if
• 43:12
  you're trying to get the role of Virgin Mary.
• 43:14
  And so Jennifer fires her. Yeah, she's like you're being
• 43:17
  discussing you're this is evil. You're going to hell for this.
• 43:19
  So hold on a second. That's a little extreme.
• 43:22
  Like it's kind of yeah. Like you could just be like,
• 43:24
  hey. Did she maybe read the movies?
• 43:27
  You wanna do do, do you want to like really do this?
• 43:31
  Is this worth like you know? I thought it was interesting
• 43:34
  because she was condemning people.
• 43:36
  She said the same thing about Julia Roberts.
• 43:38
  Yeah, at the opening. And then here she's like, no,
• 43:40
  I'm like, who cares what people say?
• 43:42
  Yeah, Yeah, it was interesting. So she's out of the picture now.
• 43:46
  Redmond comes in, they sit on the couch and they're kind of
• 43:51
  doing a little meeting of sorts, but really it's just like
• 43:55
  immediately hitting up sex. And Chuck is up serious trying
• 43:59
  to get a semen fluid collection. One of my favorite things
• 44:05
  watching the special features is they were breaking down how many
• 44:09
  people it took to work on this, like how many people it takes to
• 44:13
  make Chucky jerk off. Oh my God.
• 44:15
  And they all like were like commenting like, hi, this is me.
• 44:19
  I'm working in the arms and like, hi, this is me.
• 44:21
  I got the eyes is really funny. So the while this is happening
• 44:26
  Pete Peters has snuck in as well and is taking pictures of
• 44:31
  Jennifer and Redmond making out and also sees what he assumes is
• 44:36
  a little person jerking off in the window and is like Oh my
• 44:39
  God, this is all just super intense.
• 44:41
  Yeah, and then also catching glimpses of Tiffany.
• 44:44
  Yeah, just sneaking around, messing with the champagne
• 44:47
  bottle. She spikes it with pills.
• 44:49
  A lot of pills, yeah. But ultimately they don't drink
• 44:53
  anything because they're just down to fuck immediately.
• 44:55
  Yeah, so she takes one of the trophies and just bashes Redmond
• 44:59
  in the head with it. Yeah.
• 45:00
  Because she like, of course, like Tiffany's got her own moral
• 45:04
  code. And we know that she doesn't
• 45:05
  like when people are dishonest in this kind of way.
• 45:08
  Yeah. So like, she doesn't like that
• 45:10
  Redmond's being predatory. And she doesn't like that
• 45:12
  Jennifer is, like, selling her body to get a role, basically.
• 45:15
  Yeah. And so she hits Redmond with a
• 45:18
  trophy, and then she. I thought it was funny that the
• 45:20
  trophy is most improved. I know.
• 45:23
  And I feel there's another dig I heard.
• 45:25
  And Jennifer screams, runs, and that's when she runs into
• 45:28
  Chucky, who is holding a very messy cup of his semen.
• 45:32
  He's like, what am I supposed to do with this?
• 45:33
  And then she turns, runs the other way, trips and then that's
• 45:36
  and Tiffany is like, we can do this the easy way or the hard
• 45:39
  way off is her the champagne bottle.
• 45:41
  And Jennifer just screams again. So she hits her with the trophy.
• 45:44
  OK. So here is a great opportunity
• 45:46
  for me to pose my question about the Chucky batter there.
• 45:51
  We're back to that. We're back the good guy batter.
• 45:54
  Yes. So as dolls, when they had sex,
• 46:00
  they conceived another doll. So he's now got doll semen going
• 46:07
  into a human. Would that not create a human
• 46:10
  doll hybrid? So according to Tiffany, it's a
• 46:16
  voodoo conception, so normal rules don't count.
• 46:20
  So basically it's just the perfect way to hand wave
• 46:23
  anything away. We're ice boxing it, OK, That's
• 46:26
  all we're doing. Well, I you know what?
• 46:28
  I always hit something. Yeah, that gives me something to
• 46:31
  point to. OK, that's good enough.
• 46:34
  So they have both of them like knocked out and.
• 46:40
  Titanfony. They're not tied up, actually.
• 46:43
  They're just like on the bed and Tiffany does the Turkey baster
• 46:46
  thing. Yeah.
• 46:47
  Because they wake up the next morning and they're both
• 46:49
  confused and don't know what's going on.
• 46:50
  Yeah, that. Then while this is going on,
• 46:54
  Glenn, Glenn does having nightmares and Chucky wakes them
• 46:58
  up with a Boo and he's like, all right, we're going to go
• 47:00
  hunting. And this is when they get to Pee
• 47:04
  Eaters studio after they have like their weird road rage with
• 47:08
  Britney Spears. See.
• 47:09
  He didn't notice him before, did he?
• 47:11
  He he was, He made a comment about paparazzi when they were
• 47:14
  at the studio before. Yeah.
• 47:16
  So I guess he was like, I'm gonna go kill that guy at some
• 47:19
  point just because I hate the paparazzi.
• 47:21
  Maybe. Yeah, well, either way, they
• 47:23
  killed Britney Spears along the way.
• 47:24
  Yeah, so that's the thing. And then they make it to the
• 47:27
  office and they're in the dark room.
• 47:29
  He is developing his photos even though they're all digital.
• 47:33
  Yeah, what the fuck? That is weird.
• 47:34
  I didn't even think that. Yeah.
• 47:36
  So Chucky is hiding up on the ceiling.
• 47:38
  He's just kind of holding himself up there.
• 47:41
  Glenda is underneath one of the tables, ready to spook him.
• 47:44
  Or just kind of observe. Yeah.
• 47:46
  And so John Waters, I'm just gonna call him John.
• 47:49
  Waters, John Waters. Waters realizes that the person
• 47:53
  that he saw masturbating was actually the Chucky doll that's
• 47:59
  from this movie set and kind of freaks out and starts to leave
• 48:03
  the room, which is when Glenn Glenda jumps out and tries to
• 48:06
  warn him and instead it just scares John and he falls back
• 48:11
  into his shelf, which for some reason has like unsecured
• 48:14
  sulfuric acid. Yeah, what the fuck was that
• 48:17
  about? Is that a process taken for some
• 48:20
  photos to develop? I don't know because all of my
• 48:23
  photography is digital and I'm not in.
• 48:26
  I'm not like obnoxiously developing them in a dark room.
• 48:30
  That's fair. So Chucky takes a picture of the
• 48:33
  three of them like he's very proud of their child's first
• 48:37
  kill. He's like, you're a natural born
• 48:38
  killer. Oh my God.
• 48:39
  Yeah. I think it's like a disposable
• 48:41
  camera and they like set up a picture.
• 48:43
  It's funny. Jen and Redmond wake up the next
• 48:46
  morning. They can't remember much and he
• 48:48
  was like, well I remember you screaming.
• 48:49
  I tend to have that effect on women.
• 48:51
  Feels very Charles Minor like I am aware of the effect I have.
• 48:54
  On Yeah. Then we cut over to Tiffany, who
• 48:58
  is going through like the 12 Steps program for murdering.
• 49:02
  It's 12 steps in three days recovery for the woman on the go
• 49:08
  or something. Like that?
• 49:10
  Yeah. OK, so she skips ahead to step
• 49:12
  9, which is making amends, which isn't.
• 49:13
  She calls it the Widow Bailey. And I was like, I'm so sorry I
• 49:16
  killed your husband. I just want you to know I'm in
• 49:18
  recovery. And like on the other end of the
• 49:21
  phone, we hear her getting like more and more work.
• 49:23
  Yeah, she's like, is this a sick joke?
• 49:25
  Yeah. Like The thing is, I can see
• 49:29
  somebody actually doing this. Yeah, that's the really fucked
• 49:32
  up thing is that. People do that with, like,
• 49:33
  actual shit online right now. There are videos of people
• 49:36
  taunting families of like, victims like this.
• 49:39
  So fucked up. It is super fucked up, yeah.
• 49:41
  I mean, like, we have Alex Jones, who, you know, famously
• 49:45
  was trying to say like, Sandy Hook didn't happen.
• 49:47
  And yeah, those are like. Fuck.
• 49:51
  You, yeah. Fuck, Alec, That's the nicest
• 49:53
  thing I could ever say to you. I like it.
• 49:55
  Could go much harder than that. Yeah, fuck that guy.
• 49:58
  So, yeah. But still, I guess it's kind of
• 50:00
  funny, but at the same time, it's kind of dark.
• 50:03
  Yeah. It's really.
• 50:03
  Dark. It's dark.
• 50:04
  Like the fact that this is the thing that actually happens.
• 50:06
  But maybe like, it's funny to watch Tiffany completely absolve
• 50:09
  herself. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:11
  All right, I did the step. I did the thing like she's the
• 50:13
  void of any kind of like humanity related to that.
• 50:16
  Yeah, it's kind of fun. So it's like the next night,
• 50:19
  Redmond back over, no? Stan picks up Jennifer and
• 50:24
  they're supposed to go like to the studio or whatever and then
• 50:27
  she and he like starts to say something to her and then she
• 50:30
  throws up into her bag with her face.
• 50:32
  She put her own face on. It Oh my God, this movie has so
• 50:36
  many layers of Jennifer Tilley so.
• 50:37
  Many layers of Jennifer Tilley and that's what makes it so
• 50:40
  perfectly campy and amazing. Like Don Mancini really captured
• 50:44
  that as they love it. Yeah, it's, it's great.
• 50:47
  Yeah. Then it's like later that night
• 50:50
  and Jennifer and Redmond are at a table and like, it's so
• 50:53
  awkward. And it's like, are they trying
• 50:56
  to hint that? Like, they're actually dating
• 50:57
  now? Like, it's awkward, right?
• 50:59
  I don't know. I think she invited him over to
• 51:02
  break the news is what's happening here.
• 51:04
  There's so much. Food on the table, so much do.
• 51:07
  People really like if I'm with you and I have a table with
• 51:11
  food, I'm not gonna sit on like the complete opposite side if
• 51:15
  it's a long table like if we are like a full rooms distance
• 51:20
  apart. Yeah, like I'm.
• 51:21
  Going to go over there and sit next to you.
• 51:23
  Like I don't want to have to shout to like have a
• 51:25
  conversation. Surely that table has a leaf
• 51:27
  that can just pop, yeah, you know.
• 51:30
  She also strikes me in universe of this movie as the type to be
• 51:33
  too lazy to do that. Yeah, that would have been
• 51:36
  Jones. Thing yeah.
• 51:36
  And since she fired Jones, she hasn't hired a new assistant
• 51:39
  yet. Yeah.
• 51:39
  And the chef was like, no, I'm not doing that because we, we
• 51:42
  definitely agreed amongst ourselves she did not cook that.
• 51:45
  Food. I made you an obscene amount of
• 51:46
  corn and all kinds of various types of foods.
• 51:50
  There are there are five cups of corn in that serving dish.
• 51:53
  I had to custom order this bowl just to hold this amount of
• 51:56
  corn. It was an obscene amount of
• 51:58
  corn. It was kind of crazy.
• 52:00
  It makes me think of like the meals that my grandma would cook
• 52:03
  when we would go visit her, but like that was when we had the
• 52:06
  whole family together. Yeah, exactly.
• 52:08
  Not just. Feeding a lot of people, yeah.
• 52:10
  And it was always like special, you know?
• 52:12
  Maybe it's just cuz like it's speed up pregnancy hormones.
• 52:15
  Like I'm really hungry. I need for two now.
• 52:17
  Well, three, technically. And that's when she tells them
• 52:20
  that she's pregnant and. He's like, oh cool, who is it?
• 52:25
  And she was like, no, I haven't slept with anybody else in a
• 52:27
  year. And he goes, well, it's not me
• 52:29
  because I had a vasectomy as soon as I moved to Hollywood,
• 52:31
  which, you know what, props to him.
• 52:33
  He knew he didn't want to have children and he knew he wanted
• 52:35
  to fuck around. You know what?
• 52:36
  He did the responsible thing. You know what?
• 52:38
  You know what though? Vasectomies aren't 100%
• 52:41
  foolproof, you can still have kids with those, they just you
• 52:43
  have greatly reduced. It yeah, you have to be tested.
• 52:46
  You have to have your sperm count tested like six weeks
• 52:48
  after and and I think it's like every few years after.
• 52:51
  Yeah, like, I mean, it's not a guarantee, so it could still
• 52:54
  have been him. Read a lot of Reddit people,
• 52:58
  that's how you learn these. Things.
• 53:00
  That's true, yeah. Just definitely curate your
• 53:03
  Reddit homepage because you don't want most of Reddit,
• 53:06
  believe me. Yeah, that's most social media
• 53:07
  in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:09
  So this whole time he's basically saying that's not my
• 53:12
  kid and also you can't be Mary anymore because my Mary can't be
• 53:16
  pregnant, which. And she's like, but that's the
• 53:18
  whole thing, he goes. And I have a very specific
• 53:20
  vision and it involves her being hot.
• 53:22
  Yeah, and then Tiffany is overhearing this whole
• 53:24
  conversation. And she gets angry.
• 53:26
  And when she gets angry, she gets a little stabby.
• 53:29
  So she calls a recovery hotline. And she tells the person on the
• 53:32
  other end she's like, I feel like I'm going to slip up.
• 53:35
  And he goes, do you have access to a meeting?
• 53:36
  She goes, no, I tend to freak people out, so that's not a good
• 53:39
  option for me. And goes, well, you know, tell
• 53:41
  us about his own experience. You know, saying, like, you
• 53:44
  know, sometimes slip UPS happen. Like, I had to slip up.
• 53:46
  It was not pretty. Like Rome wasn't built in a day
• 53:49
  like. This guy spoke to her like her
• 53:53
  mom spoke to her. Yeah, it's like what it was and
• 53:56
  it really connected with her. And here's the thing.
• 54:00
  Like, no, I'm not going to go into that because it's recovery
• 54:05
  is such a whole complex thing and it is definitely it's not
• 54:07
  linear. I think.
• 54:09
  But in this instance, I think in her mind, it gave her an excuse.
• 54:13
  Yes. She's like, OK, we can slip up
• 54:15
  and it'll be OK. I'm going to do this then.
• 54:17
  There's a there's a difference between having compassion for
• 54:20
  yourself and just like excusing, like giving into yeah behavior.
• 54:24
  Like she could have controlled herself here maybe.
• 54:26
  I don't know, I'm not a killer. Just play that in my trial too,
• 54:29
  please. But like, yeah, I don't know
• 54:33
  what that urge is like, but at the same time, I don't know.
• 54:36
  Like for other addictions, like, it's definitely really strong,
• 54:39
  but like I said, there's a difference between having
• 54:41
  compassion for yourself and just being like, well, nobody's
• 54:44
  perfect, so I'm going to do it anyway.
• 54:45
  Yeah, exactly. Which is what Tiffany is doing.
• 54:47
  The latter. Yeah, exactly.
• 54:48
  Yeah, So Jennifer gets a phone call and she decides to go take
• 54:53
  it in the other room while Redmond continues to eat.
• 54:56
  And like, we can hear in the background, like, basically
• 54:58
  she's answering questions about the last time she saw Pete
• 55:01
  Peters, which is John Waters, Yeah.
• 55:04
  And is like, giving an alibi, basically.
• 55:06
  And she doesn't see what's happening, which is Tiffany
• 55:09
  under the table, disemboweling Redmond.
• 55:12
  Yeah, she tells him. The drop dead, what she does.
• 55:14
  Yeah, just like a drop dead right there in the giant bowl of
• 55:17
  corn. Yep.
• 55:19
  And Glenn Glenda sees this and their eye touches.
• 55:24
  Tiffany tells Chucky that the pregnancy is accelerated, 'cause
• 55:28
  he's like, I can't take nine months of this.
• 55:30
  And she goes, well, that's not how this works.
• 55:33
  So it's the next day and we see how it works because Jennifer
• 55:37
  wakes up and she is like fully pregnant.
• 55:40
  Now, yeah, she is basically to term and she calls Joan and
• 55:44
  she's freaking out and Tiffany has jumped in and it's like a
• 55:47
  three-way call, a la Mean Girl. This is fun.
• 55:50
  It's. So fun.
• 55:52
  And like, here's the thing too, is that you can tell Jennifer
• 55:55
  Tilley, like, as an actress, is doing slightly different tones
• 56:00
  when she is voicing Tiffany. This is when she is playing
• 56:03
  herself. And that's very important later
• 56:07
  to like, like kind of hint that the soul transfer was
• 56:11
  successful. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:13
  But like in this instance specifically, it's really funny
• 56:16
  because Jennifer, the character, thinks that Joan is making fun
• 56:21
  of her, and Joan thinks that Jennifer is just babbling.
• 56:26
  Yeah, I don't even. I would be so confused if I were
• 56:29
  her. And also there's violence being
• 56:31
  heard on the other end because as Chucky has taken like a piece
• 56:36
  of fabric or something and it's like strangled it on top of
• 56:39
  Jennifer. Yes, and is trying to like
• 56:41
  basically subdue her so they can tie her up.
• 56:45
  Tiffany like in the midst of all of this, like so Tiffany hangs
• 56:48
  up the call and in the midst of like trying to get Jennifer like
• 56:53
  muffled basically a picture, the picture of the murder from the
• 56:58
  night before falls out of Chucky's overalls.
• 57:01
  And so Tiffany argues with him about this, and then they argue
• 57:09
  about Glenn or Glenda just. Like if they're a boy or a girl.
• 57:14
  And they're like, well. What about what I want?
• 57:17
  Yes, Which I thought was like, really important.
• 57:19
  And then this is where they have their moment, where they're
• 57:21
  like, well, sometimes I feel like a boy, Sometimes I feel
• 57:23
  like a girl. I want to be both, but I don't
• 57:27
  want to be a killer. And Chucky is like, well, I do
• 57:32
  want to kill. It's a choice.
• 57:34
  I'm choosing this. And like, in frustration, bangs
• 57:38
  on the closet door. And that's when Redmond's body
• 57:40
  falls out. He's like.
• 57:41
  Well, well, well, little misprints.
• 57:44
  Like crying. And she's like, why?
• 57:45
  Would they? Build it a day.
• 57:48
  And then this is when Tiffany calls Stan to lure him in
• 57:53
  because they need a new body now, because they can't transfer
• 57:55
  Chucky in a Roman's body. Yeah.
• 57:57
  They've peaked the flirtation between Jennifer and Stan, and
• 58:00
  they're like, well, this will work.
• 58:02
  Yeah. So when they get him in the
• 58:03
  house and they tie him up. Yeah, I mean, it's that easy.
• 58:05
  Yeah. So like Joan is now they're
• 58:08
  about to do the the chant. Yeah, it's like storming
• 58:11
  outside. Joan is outside banging on the
• 58:13
  door at trying to check on Jennifer because of the weird
• 58:17
  conversation. They.
• 58:18
  Had before and she finds where like the hitting key is and
• 58:21
  comes in. It sets off the alarm.
• 58:24
  It's a silent alarm so the police are alerted but Chucky
• 58:27
  and Tiffany don't know that that's happening.
• 58:29
  Meanwhile, upstairs, they're trying to deliver the baby, and
• 58:35
  Joan gets upstairs, sees the scene that's happening, and we
• 58:39
  see a doll in a wedding dress come out, take a Hairspray can
• 58:45
  and a lighter and light Joan on fire before Chucky has a chance
• 58:48
  to stab her. And so he's like, see, I knew
• 58:52
  this is what you wanted all along.
• 58:53
  And then the doll turns around, and it's actually, in this
• 58:56
  moment, I'm going to say Glenda, because that's how they're
• 58:58
  presenting, is in the dress. And they call themselves Glenda.
• 59:02
  And Tiffany comes out and kind of slaps them out of it because
• 59:06
  they're, like, very manic and. Yeah.
• 59:09
  And it's frightening, actually. So then Jennifer goes into labor
• 59:15
  and delivers a boy. Yay and.
• 59:17
  They're like, OK, cool. It's we're gonna, we're gonna
• 59:22
  have a son, Glenn. Except then Jen has another baby
• 59:28
  and it's a girl that's twins. So they're like, OK, cool, we've
• 59:34
  got a big family now. They start to do the soul
• 59:37
  transfer and then Tiffany's like, wait, no, our child needs
• 59:40
  to choose which one they're gonna go into.
• 59:43
  Yeah, this is a weird moment because they gotta make that
• 59:47
  decision. But at the same time, both of
• 59:49
  them are pressuring Chucky to do the thing, and it's like he
• 59:52
  doesn't know what to do. He's like, I like, who am I
• 59:56
  gonna choose? And then they're shouting and
• 59:59
  then the cops are outside and they're like, we got to go.
• 1:00:01
  We got to go now. And then this is where he's
• 1:00:03
  like, you know, what is this what it takes to be human?
• 1:00:05
  I don't want to do it. It's too complicated.
• 1:00:08
  I don't want to be your driver. I don't want you to be the star.
• 1:00:10
  I am infamous as a killer. We have a good life.
• 1:00:14
  He's like, I'm happy I get to kill.
• 1:00:16
  I've got a beautiful wife. We've got this new child like we
• 1:00:19
  can be. And I like that he, you know,
• 1:00:21
  isn't just saying like, oh, I just don't want to like.
• 1:00:27
  Have to deal with you like being like I like that he likes the
• 1:00:31
  life that they have together now like he he mentions her
• 1:00:35
  specifically. As if he could have them as a
• 1:00:37
  family as is. He would like that, yeah.
• 1:00:39
  And she's like, well, I want more.
• 1:00:43
  So I I'm leaving and I'm taking the kid.
• 1:00:45
  Yep. So he's like, nobody leaves me
• 1:00:48
  and then he takes a knife and throws it.
• 1:00:50
  But then the Stan has. Stan.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah, he he freed himself and jumps in front of the knife,
• 1:00:57
  which kills him. So then Tiffany.
• 1:00:59
  Wild, because it wasn't gonna hit Jennifer, it was gonna hit
• 1:01:01
  Tiffany. I don't know what he was he, he
• 1:01:04
  I. Don't think he knew what he was
• 1:01:05
  doing. This whole movie he doesn't.
• 1:01:08
  Yeah, Stan is kind of Dan's kind of a real Paul.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah, That's an inside joke. Yeah, or.
• 1:01:14
  Else watch dream scenario. Yeah, watch dream scenario.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 1:01:18
  So like Tiffany then takes a knife and throws it at Chucky,
• 1:01:21
  which does hit Chucky. Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  And they have like their whole little squabble there and the
• 1:01:26
  cops come in, bust everything up.
• 1:01:28
  So. They get Jen to the hospital and
• 1:01:30
  she's saying that she wants her babies and her agents there.
• 1:01:33
  And he's like, listen, the cops cleared you of murder, but they
• 1:01:37
  haven't declared you mentally competent.
• 1:01:39
  So I suggest you keep this story about the dolls to yourself.
• 1:01:44
  And when he leaves, we see a syringe come up and a sedative
• 1:01:48
  gets put into her IV line. And man, that feeling of like it
• 1:01:55
  instantly getting into your. System.
• 1:01:57
  I can tell you that is super fucking accurate.
• 1:02:00
  The way she's like all of a sudden, like, whoa.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, you can't even walk. She tries to, like, get out of
• 1:02:05
  the room and she just collapses on the floor.
• 1:02:07
  There is Tiffany and Glen Gwinda.
• 1:02:10
  They are about to do the transfer over for Tiffany into
• 1:02:15
  Jennifer, but then Chucky takes the axe and Jack Nicholson's his
• 1:02:19
  way through the door. Except he doesn't remember the
• 1:02:22
  line. Yeah, so Tiffany is like
• 1:02:26
  completing the chant real quick before Chucky can get in.
• 1:02:29
  But just as she finishes up, he comes in, hits her with the axe.
• 1:02:33
  And as she's, like, starting to die, like, she says her goodbye
• 1:02:36
  to Glenn Glenda. And then they decide they're
• 1:02:40
  gonna fight Chucky to avenge their mother.
• 1:02:43
  Yeah. It's like Jennifer Tilly,
• 1:02:47
  Tiffany and Glenn Glenda all just like, fighting.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah, except, well, Glenn Glenda's doing some martial arts
• 1:02:54
  smooths. Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  And Jennifer Tilley or Tiffany, I guess at this point, takes the
• 1:03:00
  axe and tosses it over to them. And then they axe Chucky and
• 1:03:04
  then like completely dismember him and he's like, I'm so proud
• 1:03:08
  of you as he's being killed by his own child.
• 1:03:11
  And then Glenn Gunda is crying because as far as they can tell,
• 1:03:16
  their mom is dead. They've just killed their dad.
• 1:03:18
  Except then Jennifer Tilley quote UN quote comes over and
• 1:03:22
  comforts them. And this is what I'm saying.
• 1:03:25
  Like you get the hint now even before this, like epilogue,
• 1:03:29
  because the voice is different. She's slightly higher pitched,
• 1:03:32
  which is how she voices. Tiffany is like a slightly
• 1:03:35
  higher register than her own natural speaking voice.
• 1:03:37
  It's nice that there's that difference there.
• 1:03:39
  It's it's a nice little detail. Yes.
• 1:03:42
  And I was like really paying attention for it this time
• 1:03:44
  because it was like, I want to see like the differences she
• 1:03:46
  does between. Yeah, because this is like one
• 1:03:48
  of the few opportunities where you actually get that in the
• 1:03:50
  series. Yes, well, until we get to the
• 1:03:52
  television. Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Yeah, so five years later, we have Fulvia, I'm guessing like
• 1:04:00
  the nanny who is telling Jen that Glenn is a sweet little
• 1:04:05
  able baby Angel doll, but Glenda scares the.
• 1:04:09
  Shit out of her. Is evil and is like giving
• 1:04:12
  various examples like taking a picture of a bloody nose she
• 1:04:16
  gave another child to show and tell.
• 1:04:18
  Calling a cat a cunt, yeah. Which that's not like that.
• 1:04:24
  If I it's bad for a. Five year old but like.
• 1:04:28
  It's kind of funny. I mean, if you've ever had a cat
• 1:04:30
  like you call them all kinds of names.
• 1:04:31
  Dude, if any of our nieces or nephews like did that I would I
• 1:04:35
  would probably laugh. At I would laugh and depending
• 1:04:38
  on which niece or nephew it is, I may or may not tell their
• 1:04:40
  parents. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:43
  So, yeah. And it's like, and also like
• 1:04:45
  most of all, it's the way that she stares at me.
• 1:04:48
  She looks at me with the most hatred I've ever experienced.
• 1:04:52
  And then you can see in the background through the window,
• 1:04:54
  Glenda is just standing on the other side, just staring at her.
• 1:04:58
  That shot always creeped me out growing up.
• 1:05:01
  Yes. Whenever I always see that's
• 1:05:02
  like, that's so fucking weird. Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  So she's like, all right, I wanna get out.
• 1:05:07
  And then Tiffany slash from Jennifer Whatever and Tiffany at
• 1:05:11
  this point. Beats full via to death with the
• 1:05:14
  Tiffany doll. Yeah, she's like, OK, fine, you
• 1:05:16
  can go, it's fine. And yeah, just bludgeons or.
• 1:05:19
  And we see a flash of her eyes change.
• 1:05:22
  It was weird because it feels like that would have been the
• 1:05:25
  moment where they would have just like cut the movie.
• 1:05:26
  But then the movie keeps going. She like takes the body and
• 1:05:29
  drags it over to the closet. We cut over to Glenn, who walks
• 1:05:33
  over to their mom like, you know, talking, like showing the
• 1:05:37
  kids the Tiffany doll. And she's like, oh, Glenn,
• 1:05:40
  honey, you've got a present. Who's it from?
• 1:05:43
  Don't know. It doesn't say.
• 1:05:45
  And he they open up the box. As is, in Chucky series fashion,
• 1:05:51
  a giant box. Very large box, yes.
• 1:05:55
  Not full of groceries or clothing.
• 1:05:56
  No, it's a just. A severed arm.
• 1:05:59
  It's a severed arm that jumps up and attacks Glenn as they're
• 1:06:05
  twitching and peeing. Yeah, and it's the good guy arm.
• 1:06:08
  It's Chucky's arm. Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  So yeah, that's how the movie ends right there.
• 1:06:13
  You know what, I'm bumping it slightly to a nine cuz I think
• 1:06:15
  it's really fun, really enjoyable.
• 1:06:19
  It just leans into what it's got to work with.
• 1:06:23
  And I like that it, it provides a whole new layer of this story
• 1:06:28
  for us going forward because it's going to take this into a
• 1:06:30
  different trajectory. We're not going to be focusing
• 1:06:33
  on transferring souls the same way anymore going forward.
• 1:06:37
  And I think that's really important.
• 1:06:39
  It's well, it's weird because it kind of has a return to that in
• 1:06:42
  like the next two, but it but then it makes another turn.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, it goes back into this like the waiter into the series.
• 1:06:49
  We go, yeah, it gets weird. But I, you know, I appreciate
• 1:06:53
  that this movie did its own thing and it wasn't afraid to,
• 1:06:56
  like, be different sets up apart.
• 1:06:58
  So I'll. I'll bump it up to seven.
• 1:07:00
  OK, so ending average is an 8, so we bumped up.
• 1:07:04
  What is the thing that you would change though if you wanted to
• 1:07:06
  give it an even slightly higher score?
• 1:07:10
  I'm OK with absurd moments at times in this franchise because
• 1:07:13
  it's been full of them throughout.
• 1:07:16
  But like it, I think that they may have went overboard with it.
• 1:07:21
  I look, I don't want to make any bad comments, but like Don
• 1:07:25
  Mancini, this was his first time taking full charge of the entire
• 1:07:29
  thing. And I think with that right
• 1:07:32
  there, you know, we've had some very accomplished directors do
• 1:07:35
  some previous movies and you can tell, you can see where they
• 1:07:39
  brought their expertise to that stuff because a lot of them have
• 1:07:42
  been parts of like big franchises and big movies in the
• 1:07:44
  past. But Don has just been like
• 1:07:47
  writing and he's been watching this stuff second hand.
• 1:07:49
  So like, maybe this is a little bit of an experience on his
• 1:07:52
  part. He didn't necessarily have like,
• 1:07:56
  as many people being like, hey, maybe we need to tweak this.
• 1:07:59
  This that's that was exactly what I was thinking.
• 1:08:01
  Like he didn't an editor, yeah. He didn't have that person there
• 1:08:05
  to say, hey, like, maybe like, I like where you're going.
• 1:08:07
  Let's do maybe like, this will be better.
• 1:08:10
  But you know, like, yeah, I guess just like, just keep it in
• 1:08:15
  check just a tad. Like, I like wackiness in it.
• 1:08:19
  But this movie got way more wacky than any of them.
• 1:08:23
  And I think that they realized after this one, like, OK, we
• 1:08:26
  maybe need to take a step back just a tad because none, none of
• 1:08:30
  the material after this goes like, really that bizarre with
• 1:08:34
  it. Yeah.
• 1:08:35
  They all kind of, I don't know, they, they find a better balance
• 1:08:38
  going forward. Yes, I think like, especially
• 1:08:42
  season 2 of Chucky, I think has like a really great balance
• 1:08:46
  between like the tone we have in this movie and the tone we're
• 1:08:50
  gonna get in the next two. Yeah, I agree it strikes.
• 1:08:53
  A really good balance and I think, I think, I think the
• 1:08:55
  longer format works better with what Don's vision is for the
• 1:08:58
  story too. I think so too.
• 1:09:00
  Cuz I think maybe some of this, you know, some of the complaints
• 1:09:03
  you have like, OK, well suddenly they're in Hollywood or suddenly
• 1:09:09
  Chucky and Glenn Glanda are like know where to find the
• 1:09:13
  paparazzo. I think some of that's just like
• 1:09:15
  a quick cut short storytelling, like instead of like, OK, we're
• 1:09:18
  not going to get into the boring logistics.
• 1:09:20
  Yeah, no. And I thought about that.
• 1:09:21
  I'm like, well, I mean really like if we're doing something
• 1:09:24
  where it's just wacky and like, who cares?
• 1:09:26
  Like it's, it's meant to just be a fun experience, but at the
• 1:09:30
  same time, you know, we're already this is the 5th movie.
• 1:09:35
  Yeah. Yeah, we're we're 5 movies in at
• 1:09:37
  this point. So I've had four movies
• 1:09:39
  beforehand of like what this series has been.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah. And then it goes way more off
• 1:09:44
  the rails than it had been previously.
• 1:09:47
  And it's kind of like it's like a shock.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah, a little bit. OK.
• 1:09:51
  So yeah, just like they they course correct just a tad bit
• 1:09:53
  more going forward and I think it improves the series overall.
• 1:09:58
  OK. But yeah, that's it.
• 1:10:00
  So what did Talia think? Well, she watched this movie.
• 1:10:05
  She really she was like lying there and just staring at the
• 1:10:07
  screen she liked. It she does, yeah.
• 1:10:12
  So I think Talia, I think Talia's gonna agree with me.
• 1:10:15
  I think she's gonna give it a nine, OK, because she really
• 1:10:18
  enjoys that They have their big happy.
• 1:10:20
  Family. Yeah, she does like that.
• 1:10:22
  She like she likes a good family story.
• 1:10:24
  Even though her mommy and daddy aren't perfect.
• 1:10:27
  Just like, yeah, Chucky and Tiffany.
• 1:10:30
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, OK.
• 1:10:33
  And Zoe's ultimate warrior, I think Glenda.
• 1:10:39
  Yes, Glenda, like fully in Glenda mode with the lighter and
• 1:10:43
  the Hairspray, Yeah. Yes.
• 1:10:45
  If so, we could like have those items and like if she had
• 1:10:48
  thumbs. That would be how she would wake
• 1:10:49
  us up in the morning. Can you imagine if our cats had
• 1:10:52
  thumbs? God, we would be.
• 1:10:53
  It would be over with for us. Yeah, we're not.
• 1:10:56
  We they, we don't need them to have opposable.
• 1:10:58
  Thumbs, it's such. A terrible thought.
• 1:11:00
  Yeah. OK, we don't do dream sequel,
• 1:11:03
  but who did you relate to? Yeah, who did I relate to?
• 1:11:06
  OK, well, let's see. Car related to Joan who was
• 1:11:11
  trying to give Jennifer the advice like hey, is this really
• 1:11:15
  who you wanna be like? Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  This is not cool. This is not a good way to do it.
• 1:11:20
  And I liked her dedication to her as a person.
• 1:11:23
  She's like, I'm gonna write these letters just to make you
• 1:11:25
  feel special. You know, that That was a good
• 1:11:28
  person right there. Not that I'm a good person, but
• 1:11:31
  I I just you. Are a good.
• 1:11:33
  Person Well, thanks, but I I just related to her take on like
• 1:11:36
  man, this is not good. Don't don't be that person.
• 1:11:39
  Don't be a part of this. I guess I related to Jennifer
• 1:11:46
  Tilly because I too would love to be on a diet, but I love
• 1:11:51
  candy more. Candy always wins for everybody.
• 1:11:54
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:11:57
  Also just like, I don't know, I just want to be generous.
• 1:12:00
  I told so many people at Scarefest on Friday when we were
• 1:12:03
  in our Chucky and Tiffany cosplay, I was like, yeah, I'm
• 1:12:05
  just really trying to channel Jennifer Tilley.
• 1:12:07
  And I kept saying Jennifer Tilley instead of Tiffany, and
• 1:12:09
  it wasn't an accident. I got to ask, if I go over to
• 1:12:14
  our Chucky doll right now and reach into his overalls, will I
• 1:12:17
  find the candy bar? No, because I already ate it.
• 1:12:20
  OK, before we walked in here, before I came in here.
• 1:12:24
  OK, All right. I guess it's time for tackling.
• 1:12:31
  OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw everything about family
• 1:12:37
  and now I'm just like getting a bunch of Fast and Furious.
• 1:12:40
  Quotes in my head. There's always room for family.
• 1:12:42
  Oh man, yeah, Rome wasn't built in the day.
• 1:12:51
  A home isn't built in a day. Oh, that's good.
• 1:12:54
  A home isn't built in a day. There we go.
• 1:12:56
  But that ties into their family drama, but also ties into
• 1:12:59
  Tiffany. Yeah, quote UN quote, struggling
• 1:13:02
  with their addiction. I like that that's that's a
• 1:13:04
  really good one. OK, A home isn't built in a day.
• 1:13:07
  All right, well then I think it's now time for us to go to
• 1:13:10
  our reviews. So we will start off with our
• 1:13:14
  Internet review. OK so obviously I picked a
• 1:13:17
  negative review because of where I knew we stood with this 1.
• 1:13:21
  So it's a one star on IMDb titled drives the Chucky
• 1:13:27
  franchise into the ground. This is the most idiotic and
• 1:13:31
  perverted movie I have ever seen.
• 1:13:33
  Chucky is or should I say was a legendary slasher.
• 1:13:37
  Everyone knows who Chucky the killer doll is now.
• 1:13:39
  However, no one is likely to care.
• 1:13:41
  I am disappointed in Don Mancini for making this crap fest and
• 1:13:45
  then telling the world he was gay.
• 1:13:47
  Thanks Don, nice to know. Oh OK, that's weird.
• 1:13:51
  I'm also disappointed in David Kirchner for supplying Chucky,
• 1:13:54
  Tiffany and Glenn. Brad Duriff could have turned
• 1:13:57
  the role of Chucky's voice down, but did he?
• 1:13:59
  No, he helped Don miss any Butcher, the biggest movie of
• 1:14:03
  his life. And last but not least, Jennifer
• 1:14:05
  Tilley, your career is over. She admits it in the film about
• 1:14:08
  500 times, and it's true, she's done one last thing.
• 1:14:12
  Child's Play was not a comedy either was two or three.
• 1:14:14
  Seat of Chucky sucks 0 out of 10.
• 1:14:17
  OK, that's some weird takes in there it.
• 1:14:20
  Feels also like homophobic. Yeah, that was a it felt
• 1:14:25
  homophobic right there. Yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Like like, OK, I can get the whole thing about it being a
• 1:14:30
  comedy and you're not like in that direction.
• 1:14:34
  But like the whole thing about like, you know, injecting the
• 1:14:36
  LGBT type themes into the movie. You know, that's I mean, the
• 1:14:40
  themes have been there. They've been a little bit more
• 1:14:42
  they've. Always been there, yeah.
• 1:14:43
  And he's always been very open about those themes being there.
• 1:14:46
  And also, you just kind of need to get over the fact that LGBT
• 1:14:50
  people exist and they deserve to have their stories shown in
• 1:14:53
  movies, too, yeah. Like, I think it's cool that he
• 1:14:56
  was able to like, at that time, make that like.
• 1:14:59
  Oh, you're stray? Cool for you bro.
• 1:15:01
  Yeah, nobody ever says that. Well, I mean, like at that time,
• 1:15:04
  I think it's really cool that he was able to make this type of
• 1:15:07
  movie, which is like a really that that's a tough movie to
• 1:15:12
  make back in the 2000s because it was a very homophobic time,
• 1:15:16
  just naturally, which this was written in 2007.
• 1:15:18
  So obviously it's a product of the time.
• 1:15:21
  Hopefully that person. Is changed.
• 1:15:22
  Maybe this person works for Universal.
• 1:15:25
  They're the ones, yeah. That they wrote.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah, yeah. They're probably, if they didn't
• 1:15:30
  change, then they're probably like a person on Twitter now
• 1:15:32
  saying like, I don't use pronoun.
• 1:15:34
  Yeah, I hope that they did. I hope this sucks.
• 1:15:37
  I hope for their their sake that they changed.
• 1:15:39
  I know I had some garbage takes in that era.
• 1:15:42
  I know that I probably still have some garbage takes now.
• 1:15:44
  But like, I'm gonna in a few years be like, oh, I'm glad I've
• 1:15:47
  changed as a person, and I hope that this person changed as a
• 1:15:49
  person. So OK with that aside though, I
• 1:15:52
  definitely understand people not like in that direction the movie
• 1:15:55
  goes in because it's so different totally from anything
• 1:15:59
  else in the franchise. It is very totally different,
• 1:16:02
  like you said, I guess cartoony at some point.
• 1:16:04
  I'm not necessarily mad about it the way a lot of people are, but
• 1:16:07
  I can get why. Like it would be a very big
• 1:16:11
  difference for what you've come to expect.
• 1:16:15
  Yeah, I mean, if if that's your favorite slasher, like I got
• 1:16:20
  upset with Halloween Ends. I know a lot of people love that
• 1:16:23
  movie, but you know, that's not the way that I wanted that
• 1:16:27
  character and that story to go. So that upset me.
• 1:16:31
  You know, I guess the same thing can be said for this right here.
• 1:16:33
  OK, yeah, same. Same deal I get.
• 1:16:36
  So let's check on the listeners. Let's see what everybody else
• 1:16:40
  has to say. So we will start off on
• 1:16:44
  Instagram with Michael E Howard, who says seed of Chucky is a fun
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  ride. Jennifer Tilley playing Tiffany
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  taking over Jennifer Tilley is such a great gag and very meta.
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  Chucky trying to not kill. Trying to not kill for Glenn
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  Glinda. There's so much to kick back and
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  enjoy. The camp is high and the kills
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  are fun. 8 out of 10. Yes, the camp is high and the
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  kills are fun. I think that.
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  If I ever make a movie, I want that to be like the the review.
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  Yes, the camp is high and the kills are fun.
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  That's all I want. Yeah, that's, that's a good
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  endorsement right there. All right.
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  And finally over on Twitter Ward Zombie says some may say this is
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  the worst of the Chucky, but I think it is the best.
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  I find the idea of the doll family just great.
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  Gwen, Gwen to slash Gwen is a great character that needs more
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  respect. A real highlight of the series
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  and favorite of mine. I agree with all of that.
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  I'm glad that we got people here that love this movie as much as
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  you do. Yes, yeah.
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  I love the movie, too. It's just I don't think I'm
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  quite on the level as everybody else that we've talked about.
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  Yeah. You three, you guys love this
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  one. I like it a lot.
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  I don't hate it for the reasons that other people hate it.
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  It's fun. Yeah.
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  So, OK, that does it for this week's episode.
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  Next week we are going to be doing our final movie for
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  October, and we're not doing a new movie.
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  And the reason is because we didn't realize there were five
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  Thursdays in October. Yeah, but we did decide that
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  because we actually have an episode coming out on Halloween
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  that we wanted to do the Halloweeniest of them all.
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  Yeah, trick or treat. I mean, can you blame us?
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  So if we didn't, I think Sam might have killed us.
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  Exactly like we don't wanna. You've got to follow the rules.
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  Yeah. So where can people watch that?
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  So Trick or Treat is currently available to watch on Max
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  YouTube Primetime, Hulu Premium, Sling TV Premium, Prime Premium,
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  YouTube TV Premium, or you can rent it from Google Play or
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  Fandango at home. We have talked about this movie
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  before. It is an annual tradition for
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  us. We watch it every single
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  Halloween and we will watch it again on Halloween day after
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  we've watched it for Yes, we have to otherwise Sam will kill.
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  We watch it like as we have trick or treaters coming usually
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  too. So yeah, it's a fantastic maybe.
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  If you haven't seen it, definitely check it out.
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  If you have seen it, I mean, watch it again.
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  Give us a review. Yeah, give us a review.
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  Let us know. No, we'll talk about it on the
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  episode. It's a very good time.
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  Yeah, I like, I'm glad that we had our supporters for this
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  movie show up in the reviews here.
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  See, that's the cool thing about that.
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  You guys get to have your own opinions on here too.
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  And I like seeing everybody's thoughts about movies.
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  So yes, yeah, I thank you guys for doing this.
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