Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Feminists Around the World: Michelle Browder
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sadie and Samantha and welcome to Stephanely
- 0:07Speaker 1: never told your protection of iHeartRadio, and welcome back to
- 0:20Speaker 1: another feminist around the world. Our Tuesday segment where we
- 0:23Speaker 1: talk about amazing people who are doing some amazing things
- 0:26Speaker 1: all over the world. And because it is Black History Month,
- 0:29Speaker 1: we are focusing a little more on our area, the
- 0:32Speaker 1: United States, so bear with us. We will go back
- 0:36Speaker 1: out globally soon. But we think it's really important that
- 0:39Speaker 1: as things have happened in the US, and as politics
- 0:43Speaker 1: and critical theory and all those things are making an ugly,
- 0:48Speaker 1: ugly turn here in the US, we really think it's
- 0:51Speaker 1: important that we focus and make sure that we're giving
- 0:54Speaker 1: flowers and giving accolades to those who are with us
- 0:58Speaker 1: today and changing the world and changing perspective, and hopefully
- 1:02Speaker 1: their efforts will be heard more and more and more.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Yea out there right, and we want that to be
- 1:08Speaker 1: global too. So yeah, we are continuing Black History Month
- 1:12Speaker 1: with an amazing artist, activist and historian who's making sure
- 1:17Speaker 1: that we don't forget the work and contributions of the
- 1:19Speaker 1: enslaved women in the United States. We were talking about
- 1:22Speaker 1: Michelle Brouder and before we begin, we do want to
- 1:26Speaker 1: put a content warning. As you may know, when it
- 1:29Speaker 1: comes to the enslaved history in the United States, in America,
- 1:33Speaker 1: the early realms of America, and even honestly today, it's
- 1:37Speaker 1: not pretty. So we are going to talk about some
- 1:40Speaker 1: things that could be upsetting to some people. Just be aware.
- 1:43Speaker 1: But I still think you should listen because I think
- 1:46Speaker 1: it's important to know this history. Because we're not going
- 1:48Speaker 1: to go in depth, just mentions of some of the
- 1:50Speaker 1: historical contacts that Browder House brought out, and that makes
- 1:55Speaker 1: sure we don't forget because it's important. As we say so, Yeah,
- 2:00Speaker 1: Michelle Browder is a fighter in every way, as she's
- 2:03Speaker 1: talked about being a young child who did not take
- 2:06Speaker 1: things lying down and wasn't afraid to use her fist
- 2:09Speaker 1: to push back. Coming from Denver to the South, specifically
- 2:13Speaker 1: to Alabama, Browder was no stranger to the racism and
- 2:16Speaker 1: prejudice that is all too prominent in these areas, and
- 2:20Speaker 1: she has witnessed the fight that her own family has
- 2:23Speaker 1: been in to push back against the racial injustice of
- 2:26Speaker 1: the country. Her father was the first black chaplain for
- 2:29Speaker 1: the Alabama prison system in nineteen sixty three, and her aunt,
- 2:33Speaker 1: Aurelia Browder Coleman, was an activist who was arrested multiple
- 2:37Speaker 1: times for refusing to give up her seat on a
- 2:39Speaker 1: bus to white people. Essentially, and this is way before
- 2:43Speaker 1: Rosa Parts. I feel like seven or eight years before
- 2:45Speaker 1: Rosa Parts. So she definitely knows and he has been
- 2:48Speaker 1: in the activist lifestyle for a while. And it was
- 2:51Speaker 1: her father who helped reroute her anger and frustrations out
- 2:55Speaker 1: onto the canvas rather than the bullies who continued to
- 2:59Speaker 1: bully are Essentially. She talked about that moment with her
- 3:02Speaker 1: father and the Montgomery Advertiser articles. She said, I grew
- 3:06Speaker 1: up in a small town just after the Civil rights integration,
- 3:10Speaker 1: and the N word and the B word those were
- 3:12Speaker 1: words that were used and oftentimes by my teachers. I
- 3:15Speaker 1: didn't like it right, so there was always a fight.
- 3:18Speaker 1: And my father said, if you don't find a way
- 3:20Speaker 1: to channel that energy, you're going to find yourself in
- 3:23Speaker 1: Tutwiler prison. And I was like, no, I'm not going
- 3:26Speaker 1: to tut Wiler. And it was then he gave me
- 3:28Speaker 1: some T shirt and paint and I started painting and
- 3:31Speaker 1: I found my individuality in that because it was okay
- 3:34Speaker 1: to be strange and now I'm using it hopefully to
- 3:36Speaker 1: liberate others, and yeah, she has done just that. She
- 3:40Speaker 1: attended the Art Institute of Atlanta after high school and
- 3:44Speaker 1: where she study visual communications. It was there that she
- 3:47Speaker 1: began to study in depth the herring history of doctor J.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Marion Simms, who's considered the father of gynecology, whose statue
- 3:55Speaker 1: was erected on the lawn of the Alabama State House.
- 3:59Speaker 1: And for some background information, doctor Sims is known as
- 4:02Speaker 1: the father of modern gynecology for some of the recorded
- 4:05Speaker 1: discoveries and experiments he conducted, but something that has often
- 4:08Speaker 1: loved out is how he used enslaved women for experiments,
- 4:12Speaker 1: and doing so without anesthesia, as he held onto the
- 4:16Speaker 1: racist theory that black women did not feel pain. He
- 4:19Speaker 1: himself was an enslaver, and it should also be noted
- 4:23Speaker 1: that many scholars in medical organizations now believe that many
- 4:26Speaker 1: of the things he claims to be the first to use,
- 4:30Speaker 1: like the type of speculum he used, were not actually
- 4:33Speaker 1: the first time, and his procedures were deemed as cruel
- 4:37Speaker 1: or even dangerous, and in fact, the statue of doctor
- 4:40Speaker 1: Sims was removed from New York's Central Park in twenty eighteen,
- 4:43Speaker 1: but unfortunately remains in Alabama, and Browder not only saw
- 4:48Speaker 1: the injustice of this narrative, but also the complete erasure
- 4:52Speaker 1: of the women who were so cruelly used and discarded
- 4:55Speaker 1: not only by the people and the doctors, but by history.
- 4:58Speaker 1: She told People magazine about the experiences of this woman.
- 5:01Speaker 1: She said, it was a crime against humanity. Often these
- 5:04Speaker 1: girls would have to hold each other down. Lucy, who
- 5:08Speaker 1: was one of the women's that she recognizes, had twelve
- 5:11Speaker 1: surgeries and it nearly killed her and there are reports
- 5:14Speaker 1: of her screaming in pain. And yeah, she was infuriated
- 5:17Speaker 1: by the lack of acknowledgment and recognition of the enslaved women.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And she said, how can this one person be elevated
- 5:25Speaker 1: and amplified and heralded as the father of modern gynecology,
- 5:29Speaker 1: but there's no mention of these enslaved women, girls that
- 5:33Speaker 1: were raped and trafficked. I said, I'm going to change that,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and I'm going to erect a monument. And she did.
- 5:39Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, on Mother's Day, Browder unveiled the
- 5:42Speaker 1: Mothers of Gynecology monument. The monument is made up of
- 5:45Speaker 1: three women figures representing the women who were discovered to
- 5:50Speaker 1: be three of dozens of unsaved women who were experimented
- 5:53Speaker 1: on by doctor Simms. The women were Anarca, Lucy, and Betsy.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Doctor Simms had used them to try to develop a
- 6:00Speaker 1: way to repair a painful terror caused by hard childbirth,
- 6:05Speaker 1: called vaginal fistula, but he did it by repeatedly performing
- 6:09Speaker 1: surgeries without anesthesia. Right. Browder designed the different statues with
- 6:15Speaker 1: the help of a team of artists from Montgomery and
- 6:17Speaker 1: San Francisco. So here's a description of the figures from
- 6:20Speaker 1: a Washington Post article. And Arca has a gaping hole
- 6:24Speaker 1: through her midsection. Her womb stands alone nearby, made of
- 6:27Speaker 1: gold mesh and containing objects that would make any woman
- 6:31Speaker 1: shudder in this context needles, medical instruments, scissors, cut glass,
- 6:35Speaker 1: anything sharp, any object that looks like it could harm you.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Said Deborah Cedric, a Montgomery artist recruited by Browder, to
- 6:42Speaker 1: the wombmaker, I wanted you to experience the physical pain,
- 6:46Speaker 1: the emotional pain, the spiritual pain. And then there's Lucy,
- 6:49Speaker 1: who stays nine feet tall, wears hair in bontu knots
- 6:53Speaker 1: to convey that quote. Black women are stigmatized for wearing
- 6:57Speaker 1: their hairs and natural coils. Browder said Betsy at twelve
- 7:01Speaker 1: feet is pregnant, signifying that black women are more likely
- 7:05Speaker 1: to die of complications from childbirth than white women and
- 7:09Speaker 1: referencing other health disparities, and she wears a crown of speculums.
- 7:14Speaker 1: And for a lot of the materials they used, they
- 7:16Speaker 1: were given to them by friends and others who responded
- 7:19Speaker 1: to the call Broader had made to get these materials,
- 7:22Speaker 1: which included chains, hinges, tools, and even kitchen items. And
- 7:26Speaker 1: she told the Post in the article about her work,
- 7:29Speaker 1: she said, I made all of their jewelry to help
- 7:31Speaker 1: bring humanity to them. The condition they suffered from alone
- 7:34Speaker 1: is the meaning. These amazing monuments aren't her only working concepts.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Broader also runs a youth empowerment initiative which includes creating
- 7:56Speaker 1: a campus which would include a park, gullies, resources and
- 8:01Speaker 1: student centers and so much more. She runs historical tours
- 8:05Speaker 1: called More Than Tours, which provides educational tours about racial
- 8:09Speaker 1: bias and history in Montgomery, Alabama, and just recently, Browder
- 8:13Speaker 1: purchased the site where the makeshift hospital Doctor Sims created
- 8:17Speaker 1: to torture the enslaved women once stood and she plans
- 8:21Speaker 1: to make it a museum, clinic and training space for
- 8:24Speaker 1: medical students. She said in another interview, whether it's a
- 8:28Speaker 1: duelo service if you just need that friend to walk
- 8:30Speaker 1: you through prenatal care or after postpartum depression. We want
- 8:34Speaker 1: to provide a safe place for women and birthing people
- 8:37Speaker 1: to come and find some relief, find a friend, and
- 8:40Speaker 1: then also find some support, which would take place in
- 8:43Speaker 1: the Brothers of Gynecology, Health and Wellness clinic. They have
- 8:46Speaker 1: planned for in that space, and groundbreaking is scheduled for
- 8:50Speaker 1: Mother's Day twenty twenty three. Yeah. Of course, she's being
- 8:54Speaker 1: recognized for her amazing work, including being given the Community
- 8:58Speaker 1: Hero Award by Thegomery Mayer presented the Rising Star Tourism
- 9:02Speaker 1: Award from the State of Alabama, and named as one
- 9:05Speaker 1: of the USA Today's Women of the Year in twenty
- 9:08Speaker 1: twenty two. So obviously she's doing some amazing works. We're
- 9:11Speaker 1: definitely going to keep an eye out on what she's doing.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Maybe we should do a visit. To be honest, I
- 9:16Speaker 1: feel like we need to do this tour. I think
- 9:18Speaker 1: she had paused the tour during the pandemic and release
- 9:21Speaker 1: of the monument, which was a huge project for her,
- 9:24Speaker 1: but we should chat. I think we need to go
- 9:26Speaker 1: check it out. I think that would be our next visit.
- 9:29Speaker 1: That would be a good one. Yeah. Well, any listeners
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- 9:37Speaker 1: know about any of this, That would be awesome if
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