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ITB: Intel On Philadelphia Eagles Day 2 NFL Draft Picks, Jonathan Greenard Trade · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on?
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: Everybody?
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  Speaker 1: It's Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan for an Inside the
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  Speaker 1: Birds special. Day two of the twenty twenty six NFL
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  Speaker 1: Draft is over. The Eagles have come out with Eli Stowers,
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  Speaker 1: the tight end from Vanderbilt. We talked about him a
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  Speaker 1: lot in round two and then a big offensive tackle
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  Speaker 1: in round three, Mark hel Bell from national champion Miami.
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  Speaker 1: But Adam, I think the bigger story is they solved
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  Speaker 1: one of their big riddles of the offseason. They got
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  Speaker 1: the upper echelon edge rusher that they needed to replace
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips by trading for Jonathan Grenard.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: So let's see what's it Friday? So Thursday? How was
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: it Wednesday night? In my final live stream with our
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  Speaker 2: Patreon members, it was a packed house. It's really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there were some new people and there was
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  Speaker 2: really great. And said, you know, what do you think
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  Speaker 2: is gonna happen? I said, it's real simple. Eagles will
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  Speaker 2: be getting John Grenard if they don't get an edge
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  Speaker 2: of the second and it will be one or the
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  Speaker 2: other will not be neither. It's not gonna happen. So
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  Speaker 2: I called Jeff uh Friday morning said, I'm telling you
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  Speaker 2: this is going to happen. And there's I joked Friday,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me. Wednesday night, I said, there's nothing like a
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  Speaker 2: score in GM for for a edge. He gave up
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  Speaker 2: for their unpick how He's super competitive. He's not hard
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  Speaker 2: to figure out, folks, He's really not. I know, he
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  Speaker 2: throws curve balls and does some funny stuff. It's always
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  Speaker 2: a plan, though sometimes people can't really figure out what why,
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  Speaker 2: But this is going to happen. He was not going
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  Speaker 2: to not have a edge. Tresser, this is going to happen,
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  Speaker 2: and he did. He got Grenard that was this guy
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a secret to anyone who knows anything, and I
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: this is this is what someone told me. Who's Delephant's
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  Speaker 2: obviously a personnel guy. He goes, dude, he's he's this guy,
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  Speaker 2: this general manager, I guess you would say, said he's
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: dealt with Howie for a number of viewers. He knows
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  Speaker 2: when he's he's motivated, and he just you know, I
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  Speaker 2: I take this stuff seriously. When I take this information in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you want to get a flavor of what
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  Speaker 2: guys you're like and how they are and what motivates him,
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  Speaker 2: and when he doesn't get what he wants, he figures
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  Speaker 2: out another way to get it if he has to
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  Speaker 2: give up conversation, which I thought, by the way, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't give him a second. The Vikings, they were like
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  Speaker 2: dead fast on getting that. So they they did a workaround.
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  Speaker 2: They gave up two threes, one for this year, and
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  Speaker 2: they kept the better of the two threes, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: that's right.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing how it all ties in the
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  Speaker 1: three that they got from losing Milton Williams the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: who almost signed with the Panthers, by the way, before
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots moped in, then goes to the Eagles, and
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  Speaker 1: then of course yeah, they trade that to get their
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  Speaker 1: edge Rodger, Jonathan and Grenard and then of course also
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  Speaker 1: a future three. But it's it's just kind of funny
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  Speaker 1: how these third round pick and they're probably gonna get
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  Speaker 1: another extra third round pick next year for losing Jail
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  Speaker 1: and Phillips. So, uh, these things. This is why the
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  Speaker 1: comp pit game is important to Tali Roseman. This is
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: why it's useful and valuable. And the one thing we
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  Speaker 1: always say is the off season isn't just the first
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  Speaker 1: two weeks of free agency, and by the way, the
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  Speaker 1: off season is not done. They the Eagles are starting
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  Speaker 1: to take shape at them, There's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: They still have needs. They need a starting safety, they
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  Speaker 1: need some interior offensive line depth. They will eventually need
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: a successor Delane Johnson. We'll talk about that. Theydn't need
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  Speaker 1: it to get it right now. They did get themselves
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  Speaker 1: a future tight end uh with with Stours. But like
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  Speaker 1: if you had to line up and play today, you
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  Speaker 1: feel better about you and good thing is you don't.
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  Speaker 1: But I just thought the two biggest obstacles for them
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  Speaker 1: were getting that edge rusher, I mean really solidified, and
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  Speaker 1: then with knowing they we're gonna trade They're going to
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  Speaker 1: trade A J. Brown, making sure they have enough wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver help to replace Uh and especially guys that fit
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  Speaker 1: this new offense that we expect them to run. They've
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  Speaker 1: got a They've got more variety now among their pass batches. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: with Wics, with Lemon, with Davante about to be wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver one, with Stours and Goddard and with Markue's Brown
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  Speaker 1: that they should have enough to do what Manny needs
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  Speaker 1: them to do to move the chain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with Stours, they won't need it to block because
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  Speaker 2: they've got god Her, who, by the way, could play
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  Speaker 2: the Y. He has for people really know football, he's
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: been playing why his entire career. Yep, I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: nothing new, if you know, if you get it, and
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  Speaker 2: he's played their F position, he could play the U.
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  Speaker 2: And if they play you, which is also offset, the
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  Speaker 2: F is offset. So they've they've got the Johnny Montcake
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  Speaker 2: is here for one reason to block. I can't help that.
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  Speaker 2: I came up with that years ago with because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what a name? What the hell got of Johnny munt
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  Speaker 2: mon Cake? Not bunk cake. I've never you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: never been to nothing, But.
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  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that thing, right, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Why get in the store.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of great promotion they can get? If Johnny right,
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  Speaker 1: they should right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: And they also have cam Lato, who's really a good
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  Speaker 2: He's a very unerrated player. The hope here is that
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  Speaker 2: he'll be able to make the team at least be
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  Speaker 2: on their practice squad and they can bring them up
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  Speaker 2: seek them blocks. So yeah, all right, that stours. Look
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  Speaker 2: our Andrew de Chekho did a great interview ready with them.
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  Speaker 2: Of course that was that was weeks ago, so.
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  Speaker 1: Great, great nos for who's yeah, yeah, yeah he was.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone knew he's gonna be second round her. You just
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  Speaker 2: remember he's a former quarterback. He maybe he'll fill. What
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  Speaker 2: we don't know is he's around two forty. We'll go
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  Speaker 2: over the measurables and all this on on on our
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  Speaker 2: next show on Monday, combine stuff and other stuff with him.
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  Speaker 2: But with Stours, you kind of know what he is
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  Speaker 2: right now. He needs to put mass on the frame.
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  Speaker 2: Whether he can or not is up to debate. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we told you about mccoobah last year. I know this
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  Speaker 2: is a big problem for people when we told him
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  Speaker 2: not everyone could put on mass. You can put there's
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  Speaker 2: there's weight and there's mass. Not everybody can do it.
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  Speaker 2: This is something I've learned to covered this business for
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven yards twenty seven years. Not every player can
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  Speaker 2: do it, and we'll have to see. But the kid
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  Speaker 2: is a lead athlete. I mean he is a big time,
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  Speaker 2: super high character kid. By the way, Yes, he's at
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  Speaker 2: You're right, this past Stargat group is diverse. They've got
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  Speaker 2: inside players, which I know you wanted. You've been screaming
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  Speaker 2: for a real inside player. Yeah, Hollywood Brown, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: you could run, he could still run. We'll see. You know,
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  Speaker 2: this offense is completely changed. They're gonna have inside guys.
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  Speaker 2: You need that in the West Coast. They've got that,
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  Speaker 2: and they got the massive tackle. I got some really
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  Speaker 2: good intel in him, really good intel in him. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: one of the biggest offensive lineman the last ten years
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  Speaker 2: of a draft. I love what your point about Holland
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  Speaker 2: Pierce standing that putting him next to UH, to this kid,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah from UH from Miami.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta take that picture.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they should. Yeah, I'm with you, they should.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So so there's there's a couple of holes
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  Speaker 1: still left. We'll see what happens day three. There will
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: be more moves. Eagles are starting to look better. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go through. Let's go through stours because I think he
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  Speaker 1: made a really valid point that I wanted to reiterate. Right,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be a good or even very good,
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  Speaker 1: or even capable blocker in year one, because when the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles got zach Ertz, he wasn't a good block He
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  Speaker 1: never really was a very He got better, but he
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  Speaker 1: was not. Everybody knows he got booed against the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: for not tackling Burfet. He wasn't a physical player when
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  Speaker 1: he came out of Stanford. But if you remember, the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles had Brent Selick to be that wide tight end
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  Speaker 1: while they brought in Earth as a flex and they
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  Speaker 1: kept Sellick for a little bit, right And.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Brent I remember talking to Brian about this.
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  Speaker 2: So when he came in, when Chip Kelly became the
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  Speaker 2: head coach, he was worried about his job, so he
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  Speaker 2: put a he put mass on his frame. He became
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to ask him. Might have been like two
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  Speaker 2: sixty plus, Like he got really big, you know, certainly
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  Speaker 2: well over two fifty. So yeah, we'll see. But he's
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  Speaker 2: a supreme athlete. The good thing. I mean, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of comical they have at least they have eight tight ends.
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  Speaker 2: Now you know, they might keep They're gonna they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: keep three. I don't know if they'll keep four, depends
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  Speaker 2: on numbers of the other positions, right, But they addressed
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  Speaker 2: the need for the future. The draft This has been
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  Speaker 2: always will be about the future. They've done that with stours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if people realize this when you
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  Speaker 1: said he was a supreme athlete. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: enough people under like paid attention to all of this.
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  Speaker 1: But he had a forty five and a half inch vertical.
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  Speaker 2: That's insanity.
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  Speaker 1: Five and a half.
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  Speaker 2: That's look, I know his RIS score. It's just you know,
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: we did a show Jeff and I. For those of
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  Speaker 2: you knew to our show, we did an RAS score
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  Speaker 2: show like a year ago. Obsists with it because we've
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  Speaker 2: known for years how much they value analytics, but we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: We need to conceptualize it, what it were, what it
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  Speaker 2: looks like, and what it meant. And sure it's really crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's very rare for them to not have a guy
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  Speaker 2: with over a nine, which is the nines is good.
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  Speaker 2: Nine point five is very good, nine eight or above
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  Speaker 2: is elite.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway he is, I'm interested to see again what
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  Speaker 2: kind of size he could put on, how he wears it.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to. You're not gonna make him sleep
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  Speaker 2: being two forty as a starting tight end. So but
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  Speaker 2: it's fair to say, look, they're gonna have to pay
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  Speaker 2: m with a hy tight end over the years. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're just gonna have to and that's gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: be how he's sort of look, he's gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: do that, but he's got a lot of work to do.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: It's well, you know, you could play an extra lineman,
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: but that's not that's just not realistic. You need to
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: get a hy tight end. They're hard to find. It's
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  Speaker 2: not easy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't. I mean, I don't, dude, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I have a twenty five and a half invertical.
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  Speaker 1: This guy is a forty five and a half. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is Broad was eleven foot three. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: Like I know, talking to coach Revere's they're looking for
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  Speaker 2: tenant ten eight. Yeah, really good over eleven's crazy. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's great. I mean, uh we we retweeted Frida Andrew's
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: interview with Stours. So they got that done. That was
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  Speaker 2: one of the needs. Okay. They came into the draft
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: because they knew they were trading aj Brown. They didn't
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: need to get Lemon in the second excuse me, in
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  Speaker 2: the first round. They could have wait, I thought it
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: would be the second, it was the first. So they
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: check mark future receiver done, future tight end done. Okay,
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: Developmental tackle done. We talked about that. Now, Bell, everything
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: I've been told is he's not going to play left
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: tackle most like at this level he's a right tackle.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I know he's a left tackle in college. He's got
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: to get his weight out of control. This coach I
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: spoke with said that he's conscientious, he understands it. Very
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: high character kid, massive frame. Obviously one of the biggest
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: offensive linemen at the Combine in a decade, might be
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: the biggest one in specific ways. But just another kid
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: who's got enormous potential. Now this is going to be
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: on Chris Cooper. Yeah, me and Chris Cooper, the new
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: on line coach, and also on the strength and conditioning team.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: And look, you could talk to Jordan Davis. Is there
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: any better example of taking away seriously than this kid? Yeah?
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: I know I'm a rich man by by getting it
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  Speaker 2: by your three.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I mean the first thing I said to
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: you when we were talking before the show was that
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  Speaker 1: this sort of felt like a Stoutland type of pick, which.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Is, yes, that's what I thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like, are they trying to move this guy
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  Speaker 1: a guy to guard?
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, no, he's six foot nine. I mean,
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I know they did it too, but that's he's just
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: he's just too mammoth of a human being. So it's
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: an interesting pick in that as a third rounder, you're
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: hoping for someone who can eventually become a starter. Like
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: you said, at very least you want him to be
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: your topic back up because you have two really good starters,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: but also at his.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: Skill.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be hard to replace Lane Johnson
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: no matter who you are, but I always envisioned Lane
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Johnson's replacement being like a stud first round pick Adam
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: because of the value that they've put at both offensive
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: tackle spots. You don't have to like you know, they
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: came across Jordan Mylotta. He's an amazing story. You're not
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: going to come across that every day. But I just
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: wonder how this one. You're right, I think you nailed
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: it when you said this will be the first major
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: Chris Cooper test, because if they envisioned him as the
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  Speaker 1: future right tackle, then he's really going to need to develop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, just to be clear, we
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: don't know that yet. They can get him in the building, right,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I said, if they If yeah, you know, I hear
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying is because people love to run with stuff.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: They just they make assumptions without actually having information, and
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: we try not to do that, correct. You know, we
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: do our best not to we you know, we get information,
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: we have to parse it and figure it out. But
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just going through these series of texts with this
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: on line coach. Yeah you know, yes, so he said
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  Speaker 2: he really bonded with him, like the player, love the kid, conscientious,
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  Speaker 2: knows about it, weight, ideally your right tackle our level. Yes,
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: he did play because I asked him what about him
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  Speaker 2: playing left talk of college. He goes the feet half,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: the feet half to stut he needs work with his feet.
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  Speaker 2: At our level, he's a stop gap at left tackle.
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  Speaker 2: But if he came to our building, he'd be a
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: right I don't you probably would not cross train him. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: That was good the kids on the top of everything.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: We our team brought him in for visit office. I
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: can't give it away which team it was, but he
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: said he's not a great athlete. That's a problem for him. Also,
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: why he's a right tackle at this level. He's got
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: unbelievable length. Again, Bell's length is ridiculous, not six' nine
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  Speaker 2: in a quarter three forty six thirty six and three
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  Speaker 2: eighths arms wingspan is insanity eighty seven and. Eight, now
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: his hands are not that. Big they're not terribly, small
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  Speaker 2: but nine is a little bit disappointing with his. Size
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: but it's it's doesn't. MATTER i, mean you can't just have,
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  Speaker 2: everything you. KNOW i, know coaches don't like it when
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  Speaker 2: it's less than nine and a half from massive few
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  Speaker 2: and being but who the hell?
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Cares, yeah when your arm is are that, long IT'S.
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  Speaker 2: I will wind up, asking, hey more, Coaches, hey what
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  Speaker 2: what is it a? Problem if the guys have got nine,
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  Speaker 2: hands who's going to be a startingweight tackle from? They?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe so The Kim, williams you, know the he he
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: you Know Kim. Williams The washington tape is very. Intriguing
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: he's still, raw needs a lot of. Work hinton has
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: got to. Develop he's got to develop a little bit
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: more of a mean. Streak we were told that was
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: the you, know the knock on. Him but good, thing
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: as you, said they're getting developmental tackles in this. Group
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: we'll See Ryan mahaf's got to develop this tight. End
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: who's the run game? Coordinator And Ted ends coach and
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: you Know Lemon as you, said like they got this
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: really nice diverse receiver. Group aaron moorehead is on the.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Clock he's got to start developing more receivers like. That
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: he's got to do a better job with. That, yep
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: they got to get more development of these. Backups. Ye so,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: yeah That howie is just super. Aggressive nobody's. Perfect we've
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: outlined for nine years his issues that don't think we've
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: missed on. Much when he doesn't frame, stuff he let
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: he talked about this when he lets the he, said
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: let the board speak to. Him that's. It by the,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: way that's A Ozzie newsom was his. Buddy that's An ozzie.
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  Speaker 2: Newsomism let the board speak to. Him so he made
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  Speaker 2: A hall Of fame player and A hall Of fame general.
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  Speaker 2: Manager he just he's he was elite and his proge
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: aracter cost is pretty. Good But ozzy is top THREE
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  Speaker 2: gm IN nfl. History he's just he was.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing so, YEAH i have no, no we have no
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  Speaker 1: there are no sort Of Davion taylor Or marcus or
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: there's no questions about whether or not these guys should.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Go in, FACT i talked to a few personal. People
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: like Regarding, STOURS i had a personal person say he
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: gotta have a plan for. Him if you want AN
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: f tight end flex like he will, be then he's the.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Guy and this person specifically, said IF i had a
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: second round, pick it would Be stours IF i was
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: looking for AN f tight. End if you're looking for a,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: combo this guy, said you would Take Max, claire but
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: then you would take you would wait until the third,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: round which IS i believe Where claire. Went did he
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: go to The? Rams did The rams take another?
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Few he? Did he? Did now they have a couple he.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Did it's. INTERESTING i know this year it's, absurd But
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: higby's on a one new. Deal Davis allen's contract expires still,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Though but it's WHAT i like about how McVeigh, evolved, Right,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: higbee despite him being a really big time athlete coming
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: out Of Western. Kentucky mm, hm they came within whisker
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: of trading him to The. Vikings spielman didn't want to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: give a six round, pick which was. Ridiculous you Should
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: rick should have done. THAT i should rather him next
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: TIME i talked to. Him But, higbey it will be.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Up you have to think he's close to. Retirement and
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Then Davis allen who's been And Kolbe parkinson Also, ferguson
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: but don't did they draft person right Terres fergson last
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: year is the second rounder this Kid. Claire so but
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: WHAT i like about McVeigh is he's he's. Evolved he's
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: evolved because the knock on him was he was too
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: married to eleven personnel for. Years last year he shocked
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the world with all the thirteen with three tight, Ends
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: like where's this coming? From you've never done? This, yeah you,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: know so good for.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Him, YEAH i, mean, listen, listen we should all find
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: somebody who loves us as much As shoan mcvayh now
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: loves tight, ends because that is just it's just uncanny
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: how many He's it's almost like he, said you're, right
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: screw all. You i'm Gonna i'm gonna run nothing but
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: thirteen and twelve. Personnel, Great so it's great for. Him but,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: yeah so back to the point was the value was,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Correct like if you wanted AN f tight, end and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: it's not like he, said we need AN f tight,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: end but they wanted the best tight end for what
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: they fill their offense will be uh And stours was
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: around to prospect no reach. There that was good for,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: them and they they have The i'm sure they have
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the Plan. Adam Now Ryan mahafy is the new tight ends, coach,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: correct so he will also have to prove his chop
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the way, uh the new offensive line.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Coach i'm.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah Chris cooper will have to do the. Same
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: so that'll all factor. In but, YEAH i with the, first,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: second and third round, picks they were all, picked they're
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: all good value for where The eagles picked. Them we
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: have No we're not sitting here with our mouths and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: our jaws hitting the. Ground we're not here saying this
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: is an analytics pick. Only we're not. Here you, know
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: those those things are are well. BEHIND i mean there
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: have been a couple of years now where the it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're gonna hit on, everybody but the process
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: is pretty clean here and you CAN'T i don't really
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: have any quabbles with.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: It, yeah and you have to you have to give
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: you have to give Him stours on the tight end
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: because you, know first, year you have to figure he's
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: not gonna play a ton because he's.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly he's.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: A situational tight end early and then once you you
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: kind of figure. Out but it's not Like arts couldn't
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: block you in his first, year but they found a.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: WAY i, mean Just zach that was just a, supreme
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: unbelievable pass. Catcher you figure. It it's called. Coaching you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to get him on the field
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: where you limit his, exposure where he'd be knocked. Out
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that's that's you, know that's Just it's not like they
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: haven't talked about. This Ryan mhafey's this is his. Job
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: he's also the run game, coordinator which is.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Interesting, YEAH i will Say i'll have though that coaching
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: will be important From ryan mhafey because Unlike, ertz who
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: came out Of stanford as a tight end for quite
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in a program known for tight ends at the, time
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: with who is the coach Like dave no not what
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: was his, name, Uh David? Shaw Dave shaw who always
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: built his offenses around the qbs and the tight ends
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and the running. Game, right this will be a little
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: bit more of a development For stours only because he
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: has not played tight end his whole life and was
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just a quarterback two years. Ago but such great physical
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  Speaker 1: THREE i, mean, so they traded both of their fourth
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: round picks right in the deal in the first round
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to The. Cowboys SO i think they don't pick again
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: until the fifth. Round If i'm not.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Mistaken let me see they've got right, Now, yes they.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Don't their next pick is fifth round compensatory one to seventy,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: eight and then they have the sixth rounder from The
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: City brown trade one ninety, seven and they have a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: seventh rounder from The vikings and The grenard trade two
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: forty four. Overall so, look this is and WHAT I
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: i would expect if he can do, it because this
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: is how how he remakes gets picks. Backs he likes
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to trade down and get picks for next, year particularly
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: now that you know you're you're you're giving up one next,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: year you're going up the third next. Year so we'll.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: See but like you, said at the likely compic for
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: which would be a third rounder For Phillips and that's you, know,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: YEAH i mean that's that's that's what he. Does we'll
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: see what other ones that they. Get but this has been.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Fascinating it really never. Sees this amaze me how aggressive he.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Is AND i really believe this because someone else told
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: me this And i'm going to repeat. It this is
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: from a personnel. Guy howie's aggressiveness is absolutely positively like
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: warn't on other general managers and other, teams like if
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you're if you're just sitting there Like Dave gettlman, did
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: who was really BAD. Gm like he was just a good.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Person he was a good personnel, man but a TERRIBLE
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: gm where they would never trade. Down you, know they
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: had like set AN nfl recor for not trading down
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: for a number of. YEARS i, mean he's just he's not,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: perfect but there's a reason why he's the. Best he's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: not gonna stand. That like you saw if you watch
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: his press conference, lately he's like fired. Up he's, Like
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: i'm not standing for he's not going to tell you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: what he's gonna, do but he's not standing for not
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: dressing stuff, right you, know like he sort of draft
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: proof free agency mostly can.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Keeps telling, you keeps, saying, hey this thing isn't over
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the off, seasons doesn't he said.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It he actually said it out with the combine or
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the first whatever tim he talked to the media for
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the first time after the. Season it's a nine month. Process.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Man with, Him he's Like Gard johnson trade four years,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: ago right before the season, Started, yeah which is. Funny
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you know you would wait till, Then but that was
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: all involved With sleigh and well later on With sligh
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: obviously as you, know he just right when he, started
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: he'll throw you a. Curveball this That Tom slay's gonna be,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: cut then five hours later to extend his. Contract but
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in the end the day he gets it, done he
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: just because he's Got jeffreys blessing and do whatever he
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: needs to. Do, yes they have a cash. Budget you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: have to be. Careful they're always going to work around
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the cap because of the way they do it with
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we've damn option bonuses you, know which are signing boters inside. Contracts,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: really they're just this is why they're the. Best AND
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: i love BECAUSE i remember remember whatever entered one of
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the INTERVIEWS i did this, WEEK i, said how he
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: he's not believing that when THIS. A. J brown's trade is,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: done that they can't Win Super. Bowl he doesn't think like, that,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: right he, said like other. Gms, oh they're they're in
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a they're in a rebuild. Bullshit yeah, No and we're
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Not eagles homewor it's just for folks are new to.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Us we're. Not we we're positive when we think it
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: calls to. Be when we, thickets we we we We
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: in twenty, twenty we bury the team left and. Right
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: we don't call for people's. Jobs but HOW i did
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a bad job that year and we call we WE i,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: MEAN i know we got. People so they said that
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: we were overtly negative and all this, stuff like we
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: tell you what we, see what we know right right,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: now how he's on a heater mm. Hmm now now
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Last hall, Season, uh he missed on a ton of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: one year deals that cost. Them the roster was not as.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Good that's on. Him, yeah but he's reshaping this roster
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: while they're trying to. Win that's what You that's what it. Is.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah before we get out of, HERE i will say,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: THOUGH I i do think that the your division, Rivals, Commanders,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Giants cowboys Of love.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: All, right real, QUICK i Was. Washington they got my
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: top receiver sleep For Cam, Williams Antonio. Williams i'm, Sorry Antony.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: CLEMPSON i talked about him a couple of one of
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the shows we did earlier this. Week Love. It he
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: went where he should. Go Sunny styles could be the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: best player in this. Draft in three or four, years
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: got to be. Patient. Commando fans love what they. Did,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: harball who's more or less his. Control it's, shared but
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: he more or less is going to make. Decisions Malanoa
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: colton hood.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: The second.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Round Love Malachi. FIELDS i could tell you as a,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: fact they were all over this kid in the pre
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: draft process of people in the league who know about.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: It so he's a big dude who who could? Play so,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: YEAH i got the. Quarter but it's a you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: what you're, right good. Point this division all of a
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: sudden has gotten. Interesting WE i, know watching suck last,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: year but they had. Injuries The, giants they're we tolling to.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Cowboys they, ALSO i know people don't want to give them.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Credit they had a good first. Day The Church pickens
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: thing is. RIDICULOUS i told, them not with, him but
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: downs they got a stud player and a really good
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: character Guy. Lawrence this is where he really should have
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: gone the second. Round but you, know good. Player. Yeah
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: see they trade with The. Eagles see this is this
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: is why The eagles wanted out of. That they would
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to move up because they knew they weren't getting the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: first round grade. Player goode what it is that is,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: right absolutely all, right good.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Stuff that's gonna do it for this. Episode this SPECIAL
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