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Potomac’s Most Dramatic Break-In…Allegedly w/ Phoebe Robinson · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come robb and froll, Scam Come robb froll Dam goddess,
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  Speaker 1: what's pop and Congregation? It's your girl.
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  Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess, host of the comedy podcast
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  Speaker 2: All about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will
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  Speaker 1: see along the way.
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  Speaker 2: As you all know, I am very what, yes, excited, elated, thrilled.
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  Speaker 2: My guest today is an actress, producer, writer, publisher, and
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  Speaker 2: stand up comedian. And I bet you've seen or listen
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  Speaker 2: to tu dope queens. Of course everything is trash and
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  Speaker 2: what men want. But wait, okay, hold on. Did I
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  Speaker 2: mention that she's a New York Times best seller for
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  Speaker 2: her book You Can't Touch My Hair and other things?
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  Speaker 2: I still have to explain, period. I'm gonna say that again.
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  Speaker 2: You can't touch my hair and other things. I have
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  Speaker 2: to explain, bestseller New York Times, her comedy special I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to work anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Period. A vibe is available now on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Congregation, please welcome our first time visitor to the church.
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  Speaker 2: But I know she's gonna end up being a deaconess
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  Speaker 2: who does the morning announcements. Phoebe Robinson to the show, Phoebe,
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  Speaker 2: how are you?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you?
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  Speaker 3: I really do get to hope I I really hope
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  Speaker 3: that I do get to do the announcements that would
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  Speaker 3: fill my heart.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, I'm trying to get you some white gloves.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to be involved, period. So excited to
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  Speaker 2: talk with you, so excited to see you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: in this podcast, we always ask first, I say, we
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  Speaker 2: to try to get myself away from accountability. It's the
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  Speaker 2: royal we we look around, Yeah, because it's really just me.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd be like, we did that.
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  Speaker 2: So if y'all mad it was the wei of us,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't me, it was we.
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  Speaker 1: Is that working? I hope it is. That's my scam.
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  Speaker 2: We did that, I know, Richard, just like we are
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  Speaker 2: not a part of who is we like Uncle Phil.
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  Speaker 2: We But we always ask on this podcast, what is
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  Speaker 2: your relationship with scams?
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  Speaker 1: You could love them, you can hate them.
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  Speaker 2: They could be a popular scam that's happening, something that
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  Speaker 2: happens to you, something you did that's passed the statute
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  Speaker 2: of limitations, knock on wood. We don't want them to
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  Speaker 2: be in the eye, pulling up on you anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, scams there are good scams, they are
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  Speaker 3: bad scams. I will say, I'm a stand up comic.
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing it since two thousand and eight. And
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  Speaker 3: when you start out, you start your own shows, and
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  Speaker 3: they call it barking, where you stand on the street,
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  Speaker 3: you pass out flyers.
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  Speaker 1: And then bring your shows.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, if we bark for the bringer shows, and then
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  Speaker 3: we will be like, oh, j Ry Seinfeld is gonna
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  Speaker 3: perform tonight, Chris Rock.
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  Speaker 4: Every night it was Jerry Seinfeld, it was Chris Rock.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Whoopy Goldberg's gonna drop in line to these innocent
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  Speaker 3: people in midtime Manhattan, Ah, when it was just all
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  Speaker 3: of us with zero experience and maybe three jokes, and
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  Speaker 3: we just lied to people and got them in the
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  Speaker 3: in the room.
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  Speaker 4: But that's that was the hostile house. Are you going
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  Speaker 4: to get stage time? You had to lie?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did.
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  Speaker 2: I remember standing in Times Square trying to get people
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  Speaker 2: to come to my shows, and then finally I just realized,
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  Speaker 2: like I got enough friends in New York, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: just trick them it's coming to the show.
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  Speaker 3: Because people don't understand when you start, Like when I
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  Speaker 3: started doing stand up, my parents thought I was doing
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  Speaker 3: like sold out shows every night at like Carolines, and
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 4: Like, nobody's coming to see me, Philip and Octavia.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows who I am. Wait where are you from?
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  Speaker 3: I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, oh Hio.
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  Speaker 1: In the building.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, listen, whenever you move out of a small state
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  Speaker 2: into a much larger, populous state, all your family members,
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  Speaker 2: I know you noticed, they'd be like oh you big time,
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  Speaker 2: like oh you you and now y'all Like, no, bro,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, concrete juggle where things are made of. But like,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, we're not there yet.
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  Speaker 4: We're not there.
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  Speaker 3: It's just rats and Bringer shows at like six pm
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  Speaker 3: on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's like what it was.
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  Speaker 3: And the thing that's so crazy about stand up and
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  Speaker 3: I was talking about this was another comic. It's like there,
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  Speaker 3: it's almost like no other profession because it takes so
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  Speaker 3: long to get good at it. So it's like I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to pursue stand up. It's gonna take me about
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  Speaker 3: a good eight years to get really good at it.
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  Speaker 3: And people are like, good for you.
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  Speaker 1: Stick with that.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's like if you did like another profession,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm going to be a math teacher and it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna take me eight years to understand, like how to
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  Speaker 3: teach basic math.
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  Speaker 4: People be like, are you fucking dumb?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you get your masters.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is is that we we don't have categories
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  Speaker 2: like the rest of these motherfuckers do. Like I we
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  Speaker 2: are doctors in comedy. Okay, we got our doctorates because
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  Speaker 2: we went to comedy school, which is likely a Ponzi
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  Speaker 2: scheme scam, but it works out if you work it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but like that's what we did. Yeah, I didn't stand
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  Speaker 2: up in New York. And I remember I used to
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  Speaker 2: wear turtle necks and shit because they'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you're so pretty, you can't be funny. And I'll be like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: well let me be serious like Steve Jobs and wear
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  Speaker 2: a black turtleneck. And then and now I dress like
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  Speaker 2: a Ucci ho on stage. I'm like, you can be
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  Speaker 2: distracted by this body because maybe these jokes still gonna hit,
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  Speaker 2: but it is.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's it's time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta fit. And I used to wear like
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  Speaker 4: vests that was already like what was so funny?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you're a scammer. Why are you wearing a vest?
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a thirty six I'm a thirty six a, which
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  Speaker 3: just means why back, no titties, right, But I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I need to wear a vest to cover my chest cover?
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  Speaker 1: What bitch, you don't have anything? Now you got some
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  Speaker 1: up there to look at. I'm seeing it right now.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, I'm in a buzz my hair. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: I never wore makeup. I was like, I want people
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  Speaker 3: to take me seriously, and it's just like you have
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  Speaker 3: to get out of that.
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  Speaker 4: You just go, I'm just gonna be myself and people
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  Speaker 4: are gonna love me for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the same motherfuckers who used to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: well you're pretty, you better be funny are in my
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  Speaker 2: dms now like.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations on all your success, Like are you serious? Like
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  Speaker 1: y'all weird asses?
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  Speaker 2: Like it's it's complicated, especially if you're a gorgeous woman
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  Speaker 2: like you are in comedy funny Like.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, wait, you pretty and funny?
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  Speaker 2: Like I mean, I honestly think that's why in cells
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  Speaker 2: like hate well, they obviously hate women, but like hate
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  Speaker 2: women in any performative aspect where whether it be comedy,
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  Speaker 2: whether it be acting, whether it be sex work.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, they.
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  Speaker 2: Would be easier if I was pretty with some spergetitous
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  Speaker 2: in the boy. It's like, no, you still have to
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  Speaker 2: be good. We have to be better than you. I know.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about the big scam is that men, like society
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  Speaker 3: has sold men this idea that none of them are
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  Speaker 3: ever mediocre. So they all think they're exemplary and so
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  Speaker 3: they feel like, oh, if a woman or a personal color,
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  Speaker 3: a gay person's in this space, it must be a handout.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you weren't good enough, that's why you didn't
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  Speaker 3: get the job, Todd, You fucking suck dog.
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  Speaker 2: Because capitalism really be beating racism's ass because it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: we got this very efficient negro who wants to keep
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  Speaker 2: their job and it's overqualified. We are gonna pay them
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  Speaker 2: less and gas light them every day, but we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: hire them before you because they beat you out, like
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  Speaker 2: we aren't getting any handouts. But honestly, like, especially in
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  Speaker 2: our world of like creating something out of nothing, there's
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  Speaker 2: tons of scams. I think any industry where there's not
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  Speaker 2: a set pathway, Like if you're gonna become a doctor,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like you go to school, you major in
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  Speaker 2: biology or whatever, and then you go to med school
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  Speaker 2: and then you do your residency, there's like a clear path,
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  Speaker 2: but other careers it's not that path, and that's where
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  Speaker 2: the scammers creep in and they're like, do you want.
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  Speaker 1: To take head shots? O?
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  Speaker 3: God, the headshots, and they always have you holding the
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  Speaker 3: microphone and going I don't know. It's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's absolute hell, it's absolute health.
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  Speaker 2: I was in New York changing behind dumpsters and dodging
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  Speaker 2: cars on the street because my photographer told me he
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  Speaker 2: shot Denzel's daughter one time, and I said close enough.
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  Speaker 1: Other time, I was taking.
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  Speaker 2: Handshots and I was in a white gay man's apartment
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  Speaker 2: and he was like sit next to his couch, like
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  Speaker 2: on the floor, and that's where he took my hand shots.
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  Speaker 1: Still eight hundred dollars, and I was like, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Who Yeah, the headshots, the like doing free shows, it's
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  Speaker 3: great exposure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we exposed in you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I need to pay my damn rent. Can
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  Speaker 4: you give me thirty dollars?
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  Speaker 1: Please?
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  Speaker 2: No, tell your landlord that you've got exposures for him, Like,
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  Speaker 2: tell him he gonna be famous once you make it big,
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  Speaker 2: and then he's gonna be like I was her landlord?
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  Speaker 2: Like how like why can't I use exposure.
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  Speaker 1: To pay other people like they trying to pay me
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  Speaker 1: with it.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we should all be involved, Like I
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  Speaker 2: feel like, why does this the train stop with me?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god?
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  Speaker 3: Or credits so you get like I remember I did
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  Speaker 3: background on like a segment for The Daily Show, and
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  Speaker 3: it was like I used to tell everybody I was
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  Speaker 3: on the Daily Show and that was like my credit
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  Speaker 3: and it was just like the lies you have to
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  Speaker 3: tell in order for people to take you seriously.
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  Speaker 4: I was on that Daily Show.
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  Speaker 3: I did all of it, was not speaking background parts,
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  Speaker 3: but but you were there.
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  Speaker 4: I was there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't hear any lies personally.
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  Speaker 3: I did my own makeup. I was there, I took
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  Speaker 3: the two train.
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  Speaker 4: I was there. Yeah, I did it.
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  Speaker 2: And so were you not on it? Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: hear any lies detected? Like period, Okay, it was Daily
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  Speaker 2: and you were on the show, Like don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: hear nothing. Okay, Trevor, know who you are, Like what
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  Speaker 2: are we talking about? Like, let's be serious, Scarff, God, Phoebe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna usher us into my favorite part of the show,
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  Speaker 2: which is historic hoodwins. I'm gonna regale you with the
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  Speaker 2: historic hoodwink. We're gonna get your opinions.
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  Speaker 1: All throughout m m M. Today that was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of mm M.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about even more bad news from Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 2: As if the old brass Democrats selling us out on
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  Speaker 2: the government's shutdown wasn't enough, we.
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  Speaker 1: Got more bad news from DC.
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  Speaker 2: So during the government shutdown, brace yourself, hold on to something.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold on to my thirty six A titties
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  Speaker 4: right now here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Potomac star doctor Wendy Osepho and her
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  Speaker 2: husband have it arrested. They were arrested for faking burglary
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  Speaker 2: at their own house. They said they were burgled. They're
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  Speaker 2: so like beautiful black couple goals, Like I was shocked
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  Speaker 2: educated to the tea because.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry Black women, y'all catch a straight right now.
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  Speaker 2: But y'all know how we be when we start feeling
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  Speaker 2: lost in life instead of like coming to crime or
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  Speaker 2: making a manifesto already and they're shooting up them all.
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  Speaker 1: We go to grad school, we have the most education.
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  Speaker 2: So here we are and Wendy still got her wig
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  Speaker 2: on in this mugshot, and I'm proud of her for that.
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  Speaker 2: She is smiling in a very strange way that is
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  Speaker 2: disturbing me.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that she was like, listen, you're not
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  Speaker 3: gonna catch me looking busted, so you're gonna get clear skin.
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  Speaker 3: Like honestly, if I saw this, I was like, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, I'll give her a Nivia contract. Her skill
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  Speaker 3: is great.
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  Speaker 2: Also, like I don't know, she looked innocent. She said,
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  Speaker 2: let me get my best innocent face.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And then Eddie, Eddie's he's looking like he's been
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  Speaker 3: through it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Eddie's been through it for sure. He's like, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like they took his mugshot right before they separated the two,
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  Speaker 2: and Wendy was like, you better smile in your mugshot.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be on Bravo. And he was like, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And so he got in there and he gave his best.
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  Speaker 2: And so Whenny is forty one married to Eddie Aseepo,
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  Speaker 2: who is a lawyer, that's gonna bump me and we
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  Speaker 2: can talk about that later and recent cannabis entrepreneur. They
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  Speaker 2: have three kids and celebrated their fourteen year anniversary in August.
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  Speaker 2: We Love Black Love I love the top being together
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  Speaker 2: for fourteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Your kids are super cute.
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  Speaker 2: I love black people getting into cannabis work just because
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  Speaker 2: we have been imprisoned for it for so long. Everything
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  Speaker 2: here I'm with zoom Inja just so I could see
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  Speaker 2: this Instagram caption. But what are you feeling so far?
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  Speaker 1: Phoebe?
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  Speaker 3: He honestly, you know because I watched Potomac from the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: and so I was actually really quite shocked. Like I
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  Speaker 3: know that fraud and scamming is sort of like the
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  Speaker 3: thing that percolates around the Bravo multiverse. But Wendy has
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  Speaker 3: always stood on like honesty and truth and keeping her
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  Speaker 3: side of the street clean. So when this came out,
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  Speaker 3: I act my jaw did drop where I was like what.
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  Speaker 3: It also just feels like the juice has never worked
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  Speaker 3: the squeeze. They always pick these scams where I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what how much did you think insurance was going to
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  Speaker 3: pay out to you?
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  Speaker 4: Like I just don't understand it, Like is the cannabis selling?
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't under why do this? You have three kids?
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  Speaker 1: I am all for I shouldn't say that because I'm
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  Speaker 1: all for insurance fraud.
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  Speaker 4: Sad stand in your scheme insurance.
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  Speaker 1: Is a Ponzi scheme. But you're on television. Why would
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  Speaker 1: you do crime when you're so visible?
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get do not like do not remember ski masks,
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  Speaker 2: shist these like every day criminals at least know to
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  Speaker 2: cover their faces. And you want to do crime while
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: you are literally broadcasted by Andy Cohen.
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  Speaker 1: Be for real, Like, be so for real.
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  Speaker 3: And I also want to say, like, especially if you're
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  Speaker 3: a woman of color in the Bravo multiverse and you're
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  Speaker 3: going to commit a crime, it's not going to end
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  Speaker 3: well for you, Like you're not gonna be able to
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  Speaker 3: spend this. Like I don't know who you think you are,
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  Speaker 3: but you're gonna get taken down.
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  Speaker 2: You got too many yes people in your corner. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's why I keep people who check me around me,
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  Speaker 2: Like people who are funny, people who are like I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh I love this hairstyle and they look at me
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, yes, given church lady, And I'm
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: like that was shade and they're like, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: meant to be.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna change it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, Like you gotta be people who
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  Speaker 2: are honest around you to walk out in this world
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  Speaker 2: looking crazy, acting crazy, like I got multiple checkers who.
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  Speaker 1: Will kick the door down and be like, what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? Yes, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So Wendy is a political commentator as well a consultant
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  Speaker 2: on issues of equality and access and urban communities, and
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  Speaker 2: a former professor at Johns Hopkins, which is obviously one
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  Speaker 2: of the best medical schools you can go to, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: probably the best. So this is a flex. She's a doctor,
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  Speaker 2: and here's Wendy not bragging about having four degrees.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, go off. But what I do think.
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  Speaker 5: What I do think is, you know, I am not
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  Speaker 5: want to brag about my degrees.
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  Speaker 1: No bragging four degrees and how many four degrees I
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  Speaker 1: don't need?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, oh how many degrees? Okay, fur not stupid, I
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  Speaker 2: have more degrees.
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  Speaker 5: People like doctor Wendy address directly, sweetie having a PhD.
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  Speaker 5: Less than two percent of the world has that more
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  Speaker 5: people actually have an empty than a PhD.
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  Speaker 1: So I would her. Okay, car married to a doctor
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  Speaker 1: is not a clapback. She is the doctor. Like that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like you can marry anybody.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just also, and this is why I love Potomac
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  Speaker 3: is because everyone tries to act like they're better than
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  Speaker 3: each other's. Like you are all on the same call sheet,
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  Speaker 3: You're all on the same show, all going to the
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  Speaker 3: same table at Crafty to get some cheese and some gogurt.
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  Speaker 4: Like you're not better. If you were better than these people,
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  Speaker 4: you wouldn't be on.
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  Speaker 1: The show, wouldn't be here.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Now that there is sometimes a little hierarchy, because I mean, yes,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: some people would be popping the popping that shit a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: little bit more like who is that lady who is
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: married to the She was married to the guy who
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: made the Simpsons. They got divorced, and then she just
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: has a fun ton of money and she's on.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah with the whisper voice.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, Jennifer Tilly, Yeah, Jennifer Tilly is real rich.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: She just collects like rich dead women's jewelry. I'm like, oh,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you are rich, rich, Like, please show me more like
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm gonna give it to her, I know.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: But she's not getting cast and stuff.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: That's why she came to the Real Housewives multiverse to
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: try to get that little She was bored, Yeah, she
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: was bored.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: That nity boost because Nini actually did make her way too,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: like starring in a Network television show that didn't work out.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: It was the bootleg Martin Family, but she got there
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: kind of opened the doors for enforcers.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I just I think, what's a windy of it all?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: What is so infuriating is I'm like.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, you have these hustles, you have the cannabis, you
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: have did she have the three wig or was.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: That Karen with the three wick candle business?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Well, all this is to say is that, like, you
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: are doing these things that are on the up and up.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Who knows how much money they're making. But I'm like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: she could have easily like launched a podcast somewhere and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: like gotten endorsments and then all this stuff. I just
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: think this assurance for all that someone broke in your house.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: You like, I'm just like what I mean.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But she's also like, once you get rich or even
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like when your income grows, yeah, your expenses also grow,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and then you're trying to maintain that lifestyle. So it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: almost proportional to win you didn't have as much money,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: because most people when they get more money don't live
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like they did when they had less.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And she's also taking care of her family.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: She's projecting opulence and so it's easy to dig yourself
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: into a hole. And she was born in Nigeria and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: moved to North California with her family when she was three.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: She has PhD and Public Affairs and Community Development from Rutgers,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: but that link is no longer there since her rest.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Now Rutgers were gonna play her life there.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Paige not found. It's crazy. Four o four.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Jersey, don't fuck around, Jersey, don't fuck around.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: They bury the body's girl.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: They buried the body, throw away the shovel girl.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: It say sorry to that lady. We never knew her.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Four o four is crazy. I pray to God, my
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: university don't ever do that shit.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: To be like God.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: She still got the degree, she was still successful before
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: she did a little scammy scam like y'all pennies buck
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: y'all removed her from the website.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And it's not even like this page is like she's
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: being honored for something or it's her face. They were
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: just like, she never wait here, she don't go here.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: We don't ever even knew how about her.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Who listen, Jersey be serious. They Jersey is very serious.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: They're like, listen, we get enough shit. We do not
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: need this at our doorstep.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They were like baby calling us the dumpster of America.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: The last thing we need is to be associated with
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: your robbin ass. Was she's not even convicted yet, y'all
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: couldn't hold on for like a second because was like.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: No, she guilty. We all know she's guilty. Let's be real.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: When are they ever innocent on the Real Housewife? Sure?
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I know, Like no, it's like you know.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: What I mean, It's like Forbes at this point where
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: thirty under thirty, like we always know somebody going to jail.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Now Real Housewives has turned into that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: We're like one of these cast members is going to
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: jail on Potomac When I got two at this point,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: she ain't gone to well, she didn't go to jail,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: so yeah too, Like.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Y' y'all got too much audacity.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not filming myself if I'm doing fraud, Like, what
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: are we doing here?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Let's be serious.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: So in twenty seventeen, Wendy was named one of twelve
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: influential Young Pan African Women to Watch by black media
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: company Face to Face Africa for founding the nineteen fifty
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: four equity project, which provides tools, mentorship, and resources for
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: underrepresented minorities to thrive in higher education.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's amazing. She's trying to lift people.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: My concern is this, she's doing all these things, when
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: does she have time to.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Be trying to break the law. I don't understand it,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: are you see?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But like sunning a.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Little paperwork to break the law for some insurance fraud,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that's light work that probably takes like seventeen minutes, you
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And like fucking up their bedroom
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that probably took like, you know, maybe twenty three minutes.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Like we're not even talking an hour here for like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a high payoff.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So I think she could work it in she Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, did she like watch enough shows and
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: movies about breaking select? It just felt like they got high.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: They were like, you know, it'd be cool how you
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: can get like a quick like seventy.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Five k let's do that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Like it didn't feel like, let's methodically plan this out.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, like I love black love, but like Wendy,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you might need to divorce your husband because he's a lawyer.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: How did y'all not work this out to a t like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: how was this not perfect? Like Wendy, I know you
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: got at least four Nigerian cousins back in them other
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: land who you could have sent over on a boat.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Don't even fly, we don't even want the flight records
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: and get them to California. They put on a sheisty
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: fake break into your house and escape.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You give them enough money so that they can go
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: back and oh.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Mo Niger and they never gonna say shit because you
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: could actually set them up too.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You know how signaling WhatsApp works, like you, what are
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: we doing here? Like y'all have all the you got
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: four degrees.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Four, I know it's just giving. It's giving Jesse small
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: at which is so.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: You don't even mean?
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And I truly I remember that went down.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I like fully believed and I was like, who is
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Who's attack of people in the goddamn streets?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And then when he said gay Tupac, Yeah, my whole
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: opinion shifted. And that was before the evidence came out
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: about the two trainers and all that stuff in Chicago.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I when he said gay Tupac, I looked at my
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: roommate and I said, I know I can't stay this
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is in public because We've got to be on his
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: side right now.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but does nigga.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Line it's it's not adding up.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: It wasn't adding up.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: And I have some inside sources that have told me
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: what that set was like and what was going on,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell you after the Black guess.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: But no, wow, wow, wow wow.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Wendy was also the twenty eighteen recipient of the Black
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Women in Media, News and Journalism Awards. She's getting all
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: this awards, all these like, all this visibility, and the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen recipient as well of the Woman of Vision Award,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and a twenty seventeen recipient of the Johns Hopkins Diversity
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Recognition Award. Now, okay, did they.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Take their ward back? Did they pull up to the
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: house and take their war back? We need to find out.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: She was also the twenty seventeen recipient of the Johns
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Hopkins University Outstanding then Graduate Award and the Baltimore Business
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Journal Forty under forty Honore. So I am gonna stop
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: there and say, Johns Hopkins, I'm actually on y'all side now,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: because y'all were like, we gave her these awards, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we gotta act like.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: We don't know her. We don't know her. Who Windy
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: who what Williams? It's windy outside? What?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Like, Honestly, I'm on youall side because y'all gave her
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Hello Awards and you're like, she scammering. We gotta just Also,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: like the Diversity Awards, I'm like, yeah, don't get her
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: up out of here so this doesn't fall back on
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: all the other brown people, because I'm.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Like, this why we get brown people trophies. They're scammers.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: The detriment they were like, the no reasons gonna give
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: brown these awards, They're all the right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: The theme that also like bums me out is I
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: think she was so great on the show, and I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: just took her side lot, especially when she started you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: getting you know, work done, doing like little mommy makeover stuff,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: and everyone was being so cruel to her, and she's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: just sort of like, I want to do this for me,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: this makes me feel good about myself, Like she was
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: feeling herself and like they were bullying her. And then
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: now I see this and I go, damn it, Wendy,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Like I really do believe she had a lot of
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: people on her side.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think that, especially if you have family that's in
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: another country and you're seeing it. This is like as
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the successful person, there's a lot of pressure that comes
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: with that, and it's like, oh, if you got it,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: show that you got it. And so I think she
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: just got in over her head because you can even
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: tell from her looks at Potomac how they escalated at
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: a certain point and we're giving designer and giving stylists,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like when that's not really what she was giving in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the beginning. She was trying to keep up with the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Joneses and also take care of her family. Who was
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: expecting that Because as soon as you get on TV, yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but like it could be
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: a commercial, it could be anything.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: But if my family sees me on TV, they're like, okay, Hollywood.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Like my moved to La I became Hollywood and I
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: wasn't even on nobody's television device at that time. And
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: if I got very lucky, I have parents who have
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: shielded me from anybody really trying to like reach out
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: into my podcast, although there are people who do, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: that's the story for a different time. But like I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: can understand if you've projected this much success and then
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: all the people in your family and your life are
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: like expecting you to flaun that you fall into it
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: because you're playing a role at this point. And then
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: what happens when that coin is starting to dry up.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get embarrassed. And shame is a huge thing
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: we talk about on this podcast because it keeps people
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: from sharing their stories about being scammed because they don't
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: want people think they're a fool. Yeah, I mean also
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: un scamming, like you were scamming because you were trying
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to keep up the facade to me, I mean like
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: when had been interviewed by CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, ABC,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Fox Business, BBC, HLN, Russian TV, The Washington Post, in Touch,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Weekly Business Insider, and One America News Network. She had
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: like a daily political segment on a syndicated radio show
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: called Things to Know with Wendy Oh. So, now she's
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: established as like this expert in the field, she's got
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: so much visibility. And when you're established as an expert
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: in a field that you've been thrust it into, like
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you gotta look the part, like that's part of the scam.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Like, honestly, the only reason that I've ever bought.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Iconography, like a designer bag or expensive jewelry is so
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that I could wear it somewhere where other rich people
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: were and they could look at it and be like, oh,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: she must be somebody like I know.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: But the thing is really like true rich people like
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: don't care about that, and I'm like, girl, you can
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: get I've gotten some cute blazers from Mango and turned
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: it out and styled and like I looked like a
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: million bucks.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Counterpoint, though, true rich people don't care about that shit
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: because if you are really rich as fuck, it's rumors
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: about how rich you are already out there. So you
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: your flex is that I don't have to show you
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'm rich because somebody already told you I'm rich. So
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: if you don't have that, it's like, let me put
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: this little rich thing on so people know that I'm rich.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: There's levels to the ridge. That's why you can you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: That's why like Mark Zuckenberger can have a ball haircut
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: for a decade before he started trying to look like Drake,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and he can be wearing six thousand dollars white teas
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: because everybody already knows he's rich. But if they didn't know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: he would have to put on a subtle flex for
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: people to know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I guess I just for me, Like if this was
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: like Jenshaw, I'd be like, yes, this is a person
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: who's all about like aesthetics and being known as rich whatever.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: But I feel like Wendy's persona, at.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Least when she started on Potomac, was about like highly educated,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: four degrees.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I have a.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Great I'm very smart, very intelligent, all these things that
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: weren't really related to materialism. And so that's for me,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: like the disconnect where like certain other people when they
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: do the fraud stuff, I'm like, yeah, their whole thing
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: is materialism and nonsense and flashing and keeping up with
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the Jones. But I think initially Wendy was not that,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: and maybe she did get a little loss in the
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: sauce on that, but I just feel like she really
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: did stray away from who she was initially, and then
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: that's how she ended up in this situation with for
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but that was sort of my.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think that you're right.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Status is a crippling thing in America.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Everyone has been sold the dream.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: The white picket fis the family you can go from
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: selling crack to, you know, being the president, Jeff.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: But but everyone.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: In America has kind of been indoctrinated into wanting to
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: feel like they are better than someone else. So there's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: always a way to do that, whether it be by education,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: whether it be by racism, whether it be by wealth,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: whether it be by status, whether it be by fame,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you know. And so I think that she was like,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: didn't have the coin to flex with the wardrobe, so
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: she came with the flex of I'm highly educated, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I am more you know, I have more wisdom, Like
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: this is my you know, I've done all this time
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in school. I went to all these great schools with
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: all the status. And so that's how she established her status.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And then as she got further on with the housewives
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and saw how they were dressing and how they were flexing,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh, okay, I need to do that too,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: because I want to stay relevant in this environment. So
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that she necessarily gave up on
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: her principles of being educated. I think it's that she
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: adapted to another status symbol and clearly still could not
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: afford that status symbol. Because if you got a new fraud,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you know, you can't afford.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: She was always presenting herself.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're one hundred percent correct, But
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I also think that she was presenting herself as sort
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of this like grounded morals and really this sort of.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Like yls are also a status symbol, which I agree
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that like why people who don't have a lot of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: money or other things will be like, well, I'm super religious,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and I disagree. That's why so many people are homophobic,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: because they're like, I disagree with their lifestyle.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I don't affect them at all. But if they
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: broke as fuck and.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Don't got no potential and don't got no education and
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: don't got nothing really to live for, they can still
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I call it, like, instead of looking in a mirror,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you can look out a window. So if you can't
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: look at yourself, you remind somebody else's businesses, call yourself
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: moral and so feel piority.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there was definitely like that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no reason why she would tell people
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: how many degrees she had all the time if it
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: wasn't in service of her being like, oh I don't
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I feel a little less than right now? Let me
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: sort of like give myself a boost to feel better
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: than But I just think that like and granted I'm
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: not a parent, but what I always find with these
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: housewives and the frag it's like when you are a
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: parent and you're doing this, like, don't you like think
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: they're maybe you're doolulut enough, but don't you think there's
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: a possibility you could get caught, you could get in trouble.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: How are you going to explain this to your kids? Like,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: for me, that would snap me back into reality. Even
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: if I was like I'm getting caught up in the
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Joneses and I'm like a little bit in debt. I
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: need to get some quick cash. I'm like, do something else,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: do like a digital ad for like glad trash bags,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Like do something I know that's like not sexy.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: But there's all I could say would be being like.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I was mad with my four degrees, but now I'm
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: glad you exactly.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: There's some sort of thing where I feel like breaking
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: the law and taking this risk when you have children
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: truly makes no sense. And as someone who watches the
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Real Housewives, you like for people seeing in a long time,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: you stay on these shows too long? Yeah, And that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: when you start making bad choices.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you completely one hundred percent on that,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm of two minds of what thought process could
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: have come across when you know you have all of
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: these things to lose, your children, your reputation, your license,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you know, for the lawyer husband and also for Wendy,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I think either one fame had poisoned them to the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: point where they thought they couldn't get caught because your
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: everyday life has changed and now everyone is accommodating you
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: because they want to be close to your cloud, or
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you genuinely think that you're gonna get away with it
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: because honestly, becoming a famous person or being on television
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and being recognized is already in like such a low
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: percentage of the odds for any human being in the world.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: You've already beat that. So maybe you think you can
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: beat charges. And you're hanging around rich people who are
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: committing like casual crimes every single day, which is what
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: rich people do. Like a lot of rich people are criminals, y'all,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: like in many ways more than one than.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: You'll ever know they are.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And so you think you got enough cloud that maybe
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you can just beat the case or lie out of
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it type shit. So you get a little deluded, but
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: you're right, You're absolute right, Phebe. It's like, if you
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: think about your children and also remember that y'all are black.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: You didn't have to break the lawn.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: No, you could have started selling skinny tomegummy bears or
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: something on Instagram.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: You didn't have to do.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: This Like that was also just like hugely disappointed. I
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: absolutely agree with you, and you know that. Wendy joined
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the fifth season of Real Housewives of Potomac in twenty twenty,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and her tagline for season five was the professor has
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a arrived and class is officially in session. So again
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: harping on her education, which I love, be educated queen.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So season six, she started.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: By hosting a fake titty party called Nude Interlude to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: celebrate her new boob job plus cosmetic tweets. So this,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I think was when we're delving into her trying to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: keep up with the Joneses.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: She didn't want about herself.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Some tatas and threw a partag and I'm out against
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the tita partag. Okay, you survived the table and you
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: got you some new cha chas. Let's celebrate Okay, I
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: love women celebrating themselves. And we have Wendy giving a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: tour now of her Potomac home for Bravo TV, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: she shows off her husband's combined eight degrees on the wall.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: It's giving student loan debt? Is that why y'all had
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: to do this? This crime allegedly that I hope y'all
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: don't have to go to jail for because y'all will
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: seem like lovely black people. I'm very torn. But let's
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: see her. Her little Bravo TV cribs.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Has to be the chandelier Welcome to where the magic happens. It's, oh,
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: the magic bedroom. This is where my husband and I
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: like to retire.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: We get lots of time on this bed. There's twelve pillows.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that's feminine. You gotta women love a hell
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: of pillows. I got mad pillows on my bed. Okay,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: she's trying to make herself a medium.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: You know what makes a bathroom specional, But I'll tell
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: you what.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Makes my bathroom. This bathroom is not very up to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: date to me and my Roman show.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm want seeing a beautiful, intelligent woman
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: be held hostage by capitalism, Like, yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: She didn't look like she even wanted to do that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Now that bedroom looks stage. That looked like an HGTV
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Love It or Listed set. I was like, what is
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: this fucking bedroom with twenty pillows and.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: No one sleeps in that room? No one sleeps in
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: that room.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's feeling like I'm a ceramics designer and my
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: husband puts out carpet in hotels and we're looking for
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: a house with a four point five million dollar budget.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Like what this looks staged?
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Everything is is beige, which is just a sign that
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: you don't have any actual taste.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe with ADHD because I won't lie.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I love a silent room, like.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: I'm chaotic enough, right, but this literally looks like Chip
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and Joanna Gains from like twenty fifteen, like just truly
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: just factory. We're putting out this sort of like there's
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: not like for her personality. I'm actually because I never
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: saw this house before, so I'm like actually surprised that
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: this is her house.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Honestly though, I think if your mind is really busy
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and I can relate to this, that even though my
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: place is very colorful, because I tried to like paint
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: it like the Prince I Will Die for You album
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and did not realize that paints watches die like when
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: they're painted on the wall, they're darker than the swatch.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: So now I have.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Hot pink interior bathrooms, bedrooms, and I have Perry Winkle
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: blue bright as hell exterior. Yeah, thanks shout out to ADHD.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: But her bedroom is giving me like twenty four year
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: old batty who's trying to marry a pro athlete. It's like,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: this doesn't give me like woman with children and four degrees.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: But also she could be tired, and she was like,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I hired a twenty four year old
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: batty to like that's great my place and give me
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: reflective end tables and you know, fine, Yeah, but she
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: also just looks like she's held hostage when she's like
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: my Roman shower.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: The problem that I have and so, which is sort
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: of making me understand more why her and Eddie did
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: what she did, is that she feels like Bravo housewife
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: stereotype insert into brain, Like this just feels very sort
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: of like factory made, like factory settings, like the outfit,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: the way the hair is done, the way that she's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: talking like everything, Yeah, it doesn't feel authentic where it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: like someone like like if Mimi was doing a house tour,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: even if the house looked like that, the way that
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: she would present it would be totally different, the way
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: that like Luanne will present it would be totally different.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Any ruined white refrigerators from several generations in my feet one,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't live here, like you know what
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, a white refresh. I'll write all like and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: if you gotta write refrigerator out there, y'all love, y'all
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: keep streaming the show. Okay, it's not your fault. Me dead,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: not a us. Okay, I don't do it. She just
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: s fuck with my head. But like, you're absolutely right.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: It's like she's.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Mimicking an aesthetic that she's seen because she wants to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: stay on the show. And to me, this all screams
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: desperation because and not desperation in a shady way, desperation
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: in a real way of like, you need to stay
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: on this show. At this point, something has happened financially
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: where you need to continue to generate this income because
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: either you're spending out of your means, you're giving away
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: too much money out of your meanings, which honestly, Wendy,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I understand if he was giving this to your family, like, baby,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: it's not all families.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's friends for me.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: But I give away way too much my money, like
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: it's it's I'm I understand, I'm sorry.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Just feels like she's trapped because she signed on and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: now she's really trying to lean in.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So I think you're absolutely right Povie about that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: And she's going to start in the new spinoff of
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Wife Swap, Real Housewives Edition, which Okay, she really needed
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: a coin.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: We're doing wife Swap. She's gonna do that this year.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Until the premiere of the show got pushed back due
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: to crimes.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So phoebe, let's get to her crime and arrest here.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: In April of twenty twenty four, Wendy and Eddie claimed
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: designer bags and jewelry were stolen from their bedroom in
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Maryland while they were on vacation in Jamaica. They were
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: staying at a zool Beach Negrill resort as Old Beach
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: not Green.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Result. I don't know was that wa Gwan Louis.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Jamaicans are gonna kill me I already got the French
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: on my ass and they were like, this sounded terrible
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: when we were talking about the louver.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: The sorry whatever. I meant that to be respectful.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: But Eddie the lawyer her husband filed claims with two
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: different insurance companies, with both he and his wife allegedly
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: signing statements claiming four hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: property loss and two five hundred dollars in property damage.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: They weren't the first Housewives family to be burgled.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Right. In twenty twenty one, Beverly Hills star Durt Kimsley
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: was victim of a scary robbery right and she was
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: held at gunpoint as her home was looted. Her children
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: were asleep in the other room at the time. Also,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Kyle Richard experienced a home burglary in twenty seventeen when
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: her Encino house was hit by thieves who took treasured
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: family heirlooms. It's one of the risks of appearing on
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: a reality show where you brag about your high end
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: lifestyle while showing up the interior and exterior of your home.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: That all makes sense to me. This all points back
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: to what you said Phoebe, which is that she might
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: have been just trying to do a blueprint of what
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: these housewives were doing.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Her house tour looks like a blueprint.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: She saw that all these other houses allegedly, I don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: know what she saw, but maybe she saw that these
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: other housewives had been robbed and this was a blueprint.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's a Bromo com And they were like.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I know, I keep trying to you know, this is
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: the thing that I talk about in therapy. Sometimes sometimes
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I try to find the logic and the illogical, and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I just keep going back to her and Eddie are
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: too smart to do somethingless dumb.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I agree, it's been very difficult. But at the
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: same time, though, I just working in scams realized that like,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: sometimes you get conned because you are in need, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: scammers know how to exploit a need, and so if
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: they were desperate for this money in any situation, desperation
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: will always kick out the red flags. It will knock
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: out the thoughts that would stop you from doing this.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: It is not rational. It is a need.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: It is and that's when your physical body takes over
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: in situations and the next thing, you know, I mean,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: look people need love. And how many times has anybody
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: out here on this podcast, no matter the gender, been
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: with somebody that you were like, this is the most
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: ghetto shit I've ever done in my life, but I
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: really need a hug right now, So we're just gonna
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: go with it, like because you had a need, all
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: of your logic has fled you, like it happens.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I do think they can turn this around they get convicted.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I really do think that this is a nation that
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: celebrates felons. I mean, we have a fellow in the
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: White House, so I feel like they can certainly come
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: out the other side of this and get some coins.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: But I want them out fast, like, yeah, they don't
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: need to be locked up for real, Like they have
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: three kids. I'm not gonna say this is a victim
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: was crime, but I'm also gonna say this is a
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: victim was crime because like insurance is upon this scheme,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Like that insurance company got a lot of money from
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: them and a lot of other people. Like everybody will
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: be fine in this situation. And I don't think that
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: three children should be deprived of their amazing intelligent parents
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: simply because they made a mistake.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Like and yes, a lot of mistake. Okay, my mistakes
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: can be deliberate.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: You don't accidentally.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: You ain't never accidentally committed insurance fraud. Be serious. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: had a go and do insurance fraud all the time.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean too. It was a rock under my shoe.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: And then the next thing I knew I did insurance fraud.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That wasn't my intention.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: This was a choice, damn it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: And even you know, the devil will be making us
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: do something. Bump the tample.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Basketball made them do this. She got four degrees, she got.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: A Okay, does he really have a we never verify that.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't care. It's such a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: flex it's such a specific number. Why would we ever
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: question it. I just I can't see a beautiful black
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: couple go down like this. No, no up on the side.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, all of this makes sense when you don't think
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Stop thinking about it. Don't use your break.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, but look like okay they're saying though they're saying
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: the they Woody and Eddy didn't actually get robbed. M
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Tyler Perry, give me strength. Police found that there was
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: no motion detective on the their family, like their security
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: in their home while they were out.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Of the country.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Authorities investigating the burglary also noticed that there was a
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: screen with damage lying on the roof, and the window
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: where the break.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: In occurred was not locked.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: To go in or out of that window, one has
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: to step on the toilet, but there was no dirt
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: or shoe print on the toilet lid. When Sheriff's office
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: personnel stepped onto the roof and back into the home,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: they tracked the roof grit back inside, meaning that they
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: walked onto the top of the house the way they
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: thought this burglary happened, And they tracked back inside and
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: were like, there's dirt on our shoes, and there is
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: no dirt on this toilet. There is no dirt in
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the entry point. The window was unlocked. Now, gosh, Wendy husband,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be one, but y'all couldn't wrap y'all
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: hand up in the little in a towel and punch
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: through the window glass.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Again, you could have employed a cousin to do this.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is when you call, you know, Bamba clot
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: in Jamaica.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: You call somebody and you have them help you with this.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Y'all got no criminals, like like with one strike, like
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: be for real.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: So Wendy was later photographed on a red.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Carpet wearing one of the stolen rings a diamond anniversary
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: band and posted the picture on social media.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: So she claimed this for insurance, and then she still
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: wore it. This is how Lulu I am.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, a lot of rich people buy
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: expensive stuff and then they get a duplicate of it
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: so that they can wear the real thing when they're safe,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: but not wear the real thing when you know they
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: on the streets.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I'm right you.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: The thing is. I love your heart, I love your faith.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: But the more I hear these details, because I didn't
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: hear this detail about her wearing the stolen item on
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: the red carpet, I'm now mad defending her intelligence because
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: this is as stupid as fuck.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: It's so dumb. Don't wear any jewels. Oh my god.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: If I just got girl, if I was trying to
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: sell this story that I got robbed, I would have
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: been shown up in flip flops, back paper, sack, period
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: day sweatpants selling the story that I am going through it.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: A neck brace, like, just give me something.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Also, this is a great reminder to everyone listening. And
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I say this all the time, and it's such a
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: trick in our society. Intelligence is not some type of
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: universal statement to your skill set. And what I mean
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: by that is that you can be a genius in
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: one area and a goddamn dumb ass in another. So look,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Kanye's crazy ass is great at making a beat, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: now everything that he be saying, I'm not with it.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Also, like if I was having heart palpitations or I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: needed some type of elective surgery.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want Kanye doing that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Like he's a genius when it comes to playing a
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: little beat machine, He's not a genius when it comes
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: to fixing my heart. He's not a genius when I'm like,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: oh I need a gonological exam, I'm not.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Gonna be like, you know, like, let's be for real.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Let's all be f real.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want dark, twisted fantasies and giving me a
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: you know, put me in.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Styrups, like, let's be for real.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: And we always do this with people who have money
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: as well. Just because you have money does not mean
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: you're smart just because, and especially if you look back
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: on how they got it or where they got it,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: from it's usually from family, from privilege, from a lot
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: of things. Elon must never invented anything, babe. He acquired
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: companies like, let's all be for real. So I can
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: understand that Wendy may have four degrees and is a beautiful,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: lovely woman for what I know, I don't know her,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: but obviously she don't know how to do robberies or
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: fake them at least.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Why I'm mad about this is her husband is a lawyer, bro,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't do this type of law.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not criminal law.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: So maybe he just didn't realize how criminal law works
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: because that's not his specialty. I am disappointed in him, though,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, you were at least a lawyer, like
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: you could have been more for real about this, like
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: the the window unlocks, the no footprints, no dust, no like,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: no signs of like come on now, bro, Wendy, you
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: got to divorce him when you get out of jail,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: because he really just deny he you had one job
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: other than loving husband, father and workman.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: But you I'm blaming you too.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: So the investigation found that other items they said were
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: stolen had been purchased and returned to their respective stores
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: where full refunds were provided before the alleged burglary happened.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: So not only that they went in Boston expensive shit,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: returned it and said it was stolen paper trails. Guys,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: why none of these four degrees, none of them? I mean,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I guess they weren't about they they weren't about this.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I guess they weren't about cross stupid. They shouldn't just
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: like check their Google.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: History how to fake robbery, Like it's all so fucking dumb.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Are you not in the incognito window?
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Why the fuck are you googling this?
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Get all the dark? Whem?
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Jess Mar producers said, yes, they're book smart. They're not
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: street smart.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: They never been.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: They not even called the sack smart now, like be
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: for real, y'all not even private roads smart.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: What going on?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: They're not rockers, They're not ruckers smart. I'm glad that
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Ruckers took everything back.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I'm glad New.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Jerseys snatched off Get snatched it too and said we
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: don't know her.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: And honestly, now I'm on their side.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Now y'all got me on the university side because they
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: were like, we did not educate her to be this dumb.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I think at this point they embarrassed because of how
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: sloppily you did the crime.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I don't even think it's about the integrity of the crime.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: They're like, we would.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Never give somebody a degree who would do crime so badly,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Like this ain't even like a rico. This ain't even
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: like a beautiful criminal. Mprizes dummies, No, no, no, no.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: How did y'all pass all electives? That's what we want
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: to know. You can learn how to do crime and electors,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: especially psychology.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Come on now, now, I'm just disappointed. Now, I just
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: like y'all this.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: So in October, Wendy was arrested on sixteen charges, including
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: insurance fraud, conspiracy to commit insurance fraud, and also false
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: stavements to police officers. Seven of the charges are felonies.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Eddie is facing eighteen similar charges. I'm glad he got
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: two more because you're a lawyer, so you really should
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: have been doing better.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, the charge these character.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Dumb mastery a crime? Can we get a count for
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: dumb mastery?
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just legit. I'm kind of scared for them. I'm like,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: they're gonna do some time. They're gonna do some time,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: they're not gonna get out of it, and.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I just I know that, you know, Okay, Well, financial
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: crimes really pissed me off sometimes because the prison sentences
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: are sometimes so much longer than violent crime, so much
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: longer than like DV even pedophilia.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: And to me, those people are really fucked in the head.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: These people just did something fucking stupid and prison is
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: a hard place. It's we don't rehabilitate people in jail
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: where they're it's basically enslavement.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And I don't think this, like I would rather just see.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Them do community service for the rest of their lives
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: and be like designated to do that every single week,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: or they go to jail something that's not this harsh
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: because they seem.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: To be decent enough people.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: They just were people who wanted money quickly and I'm
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: not going to ride for the insurance companies. Yeah, they
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: should just get like they clean the highway, that kind
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: of stuff.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: I think that that.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just tough because they've made so many boneheaded
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: decisions that I can't, like, I just can't all the
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: way be mad because I'm like, god, this really it
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: feels like a couple of eighth graders doing this and
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: not like forty one year.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Olds, you know, with all these degrees.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have twelve degrees between the two.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I was about to say that they got a dozen
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: a dozen and they can't figure this out.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: If this is not a lesson to people to not
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: do crime.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: If you have one degree, you're you're really gonna be
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: fucked because they have twelve.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: They couldn't figure it out.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Y'all needed a thirteenth where you studied criminology, because clearly,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: like why didn't y'all go back to grand school one
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: more time before you decided to do crime? Y'all clearly
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: loved to learn, and you're gonna scamp on this.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Don't skimp on crime.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Well they should have done I hate Ponzi schemes, but
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: why didn't they do a Ponzi scheme?
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like honestly, like just beeling like,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: oh my birken got stolen. It's like, who gives a fuck?
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Like just I don't know, do a Ponzi scheme.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm a candle selling company and tell everybody
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: on Facebook they can have financial freedom if they buck
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: in bulk like.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: This is so disappointing.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: They were released on fifty thousand dollars bill after being arrested.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Wendy has stepped down from her teaching position at Wesleyan University, which, yeah, you,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I'm look, I'm sure you were good to teach and
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: whatever you were teaching, but clearly you are not a
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: great student of crime. And so you're invalidated because, like
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: you know so, because if you're a real teacher, you
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: would have known to do your research. How do you
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: run in my shit through all the stuff that detects
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: AI and chat GPT.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And you can't even do crime, right, I can't respect you.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Cite your source. Just cite your source. That's all.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: You had. No sources, no sources, two brain cells barely
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: rubbing together. Disappointing, and so Real Housewives star of Orange
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: County Tamra Judge sat on her podcast that she got
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a DM from one of Wendy's neighbors that the break
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: in was suspicious when it was like when it supposedly happened,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: So one of the neighbors already spilled the tea when
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: it happened, like, em, I don't really think that happened,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: and I honestly believe that neighbor because I absolutely know
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: that neighbor is white because of who she's contacting. And
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I absolutely know that when he was in a white,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: affluent neighborhood where they were constantly watching her house trying
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to see what she was doing so they could get
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: her up out of there.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, white people love being in black people's business one.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: It's their favorite thing. Yeah.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: They're like, we hate you, but we can't leave you alone.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, please please, that's my favorite mie girl. Aggression
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: from white people is if I'm in a rich space,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: first class wherever it be, like a nice lounge, you
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: name it, They're always.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Like, so what do you do for a living? Aka nigga,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: why are you here?
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: But also and I want to know Yeah, so.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Girl, that's the other thing, Wendy, You living in this
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: white neighborhood, You think the neighborhood watch wasn't watching your house?
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: That's their whole job.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: They haven't bunco nights and exchanged information about what time
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: you put This is not your kind of crime. So
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: the neighbors all got notices on their front doors or
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: in their mailbox that there had been a burglary at
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Wendy Eddie's house and instantly the whole neighborhood was thinking,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: this is insurance fraud.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Damn tell Wendy, Okay, you made a lot of mistakes.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: The break in stage was bad, wearing jewelry that you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: said was stolen on a red carpet.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I can't even speak on it. But why weren't you.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: And viny old weird ass neighbors over to the house
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: for a barbecue on the last Thursday of the month
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: or dropping off some muffins or something so that they
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: would not be trying to snitch on you. You had all
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: the ops against you and did the worst possible plan,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Like you're a successful black woman, and then on top
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: of that, you're living next to white people who don't
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: want you there. On top of that, you're on Bravo,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: which is a lot of these board housewives' favorite network,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: including all all of us saw demographics.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: But they're in there as well.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: You ain't even let them no clout, You ain't take
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: no pictures with them. You ain't bring your old dog
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Scrappy Dood down the sidewalk and say hello.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: So now you got ops two hops.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: On top of this, it's also infuriating because She didn't
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: even look up the history of burglaries in her neighborhood
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: so that this WU was fucking track. If you're the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: neighborhood has not been burgled in three years, all of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: a sudden, they're doing it when you're on vacation, bitch,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: be fucking for real.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: You could have even looked up a burglary and staged
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: it to look exactly like a burglary that happened in
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the past in that neighborhood. Why am I giving you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: freak game?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: They should have been doing minor crimes leading up to this,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: like plot this.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give us.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Harassment, give us. I just say, you got too many
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: degrees to be this god damn dumb. Like that's all
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. It's so disappointing. I don't want y'all
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: to be in jail for long because I just this
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: still is a victimless crime to me, like insurance companies
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: will be fine. Yeah, And I want your kids to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: have parents. And I do think I don't know you,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: but I hope that you're decent people. Clearly you're very
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: dumb in the area of crime, so I hope that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: you give that up and maybe you can write up,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: like write a memoir like bad at Crime, Good at School,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I don't know how to help.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Bad at crime, good at being a fool, like let's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: just own it.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I hate to end on this note. I wish this
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: was a positive thing. I hope they don't go to jail.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: But people, we always ask on the show, where would
• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:55
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:03:01
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• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:28
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• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: I'm just I can't. I can't believe they did this.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I'm so mad about it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I'm mad because I'm disappointed. I'm like, I don't want
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to see y'all get locked up and all the signs
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: are pointing to the clink.
• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:50
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• 1:03:53
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