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Speaker 1: It's the gold reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight Anthony Alberanezy I think, embarrasses himself with the Pope
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Speaker 2: and how the Pope sent the White House a message
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Speaker 2: to toughen up on Russia. Well so tonight China exposes
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Speaker 2: Labour's nuclear lie and meet the strange Jews in New
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Speaker 2: South Wales who claim a Mas terrorists aren't actually Jew
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Speaker 2: haters and the October seven massacret that was Israel's fault,
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Speaker 2: talk about turkeys for Christmas, and plenty more tonight, including
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Speaker 2: a liberal MP sending his party a warning do not
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Speaker 2: be net zero climate fanatics. But first, Joe bardneys that
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Speaker 2: I revealed more than the fact that he has incurable
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Speaker 2: prostate cancer. The former American president exposed to the world
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Speaker 2: even more clearly, a shocking cover up by the White
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Speaker 2: House and a bettered by the media left. Just days
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Speaker 2: after a new book was published, Original Sin, telling how
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Speaker 2: Biden and his party lied about his mental decline, Biden
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Speaker 2: put out a statement that suggests they may have also
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Speaker 2: covered up that he had cancer so that he could
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Speaker 2: run again as president. The statement said Biden had just
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Speaker 2: got a new medical finding of prostate cancer very advanced,
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Speaker 2: with the Glease's score of nine out of ten with
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Speaker 2: fantastasist to the bone very aggressive, although it could be
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Speaker 2: managed not cured with her hormones. But wait, I mean
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Speaker 2: just found out last week. I mean doctors are astonished
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Speaker 2: that a president would go through extensive annual health tests
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Speaker 2: and never have a cancel like that picked up years
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Speaker 2: before it spread.
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Speaker 3: It's very unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and
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Speaker 3: not notice. He was a former president, he had intensive
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Speaker 3: state of the art, you know care. It's very unusual
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Speaker 3: to hear that someone has pricely cancer where they're annually
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Speaker 3: being followed up, and the fact that we just find
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Speaker 3: it at a Glease of nine is just pretty much
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Speaker 3: unheard of.
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Speaker 2: It In Australia the same astonishment from experts. Jeremy Grummitt,
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Speaker 2: who's director of Urology at the Alfred helped said, we
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Speaker 2: don't know this stage where there it's been getting PSA
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Speaker 2: tests in this testing of blood for signs of cancer.
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Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if he hadn't though as a former
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Speaker 2: US president, So that's why it's a bit of a
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Speaker 2: surprise it it's got metastatic disease and all that makes
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Speaker 2: this comment by Biden three years ago look even more
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Speaker 2: significant a claim that it got cancer from the oil
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Speaker 2: industry pollution in his hometown.
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Speaker 4: How to put on your windshield wapers to get literally the.
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Speaker 5: Oil slick off the window.
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Speaker 6: That's why I had so damn any other people I
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Speaker 6: grew up have cancer.
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Speaker 2: Back then, the White House said, well, so spoke Biden.
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Speaker 2: Meant that it got skin cancers. But you know oil
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Speaker 2: causes skin cancers.
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Speaker 5: Whatever.
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Speaker 2: The White House kept issuing cheery health reports, claiming Barden
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Speaker 2: was as fit as a fiddle for a man his age,
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Speaker 2: with no neurological problems either.
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Speaker 5: In fact, you know, in the.
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Speaker 2: Past week we've had stunning new evidence of just how
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Speaker 2: bad that lying was. Now it's true, the three years
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Speaker 2: ago has ready become clear to those of us with
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Speaker 2: ed to see. You heard on this show that Barden
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Speaker 2: was getting foggy and forgetful, But the White housept Barden
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Speaker 2: hidden from the media, and then he suggested that he
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Speaker 2: had dementia or anything like that was savaged by his
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Speaker 2: media mates.
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Speaker 7: He is sharp, intensely probing, and detail oriented.
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Speaker 2: The flip side of this coin is that he has
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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience have.
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Speaker 8: You heard any concernans from anyone who has met with
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Speaker 8: President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
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Speaker 9: Now old speculation from a bunch of people who have
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Speaker 9: probably never been in a room with Joe Biden and
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Speaker 9: certainly don't have medical degrees that I'm aware of.
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Speaker 2: But two years ago Disaster, Biden had to give evidence
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Speaker 2: on Earth to a special counsel, Robert Hurr, about why
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Speaker 2: classified files had turned up in his home garage, and
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Speaker 2: Her eventually decided, well, it was classified, it was in
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Speaker 2: his garage, but there's no point in charging him because
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Speaker 2: Biden would likely present himself to a jury as he
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Speaker 2: did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well
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Speaker 2: meaning elderly man with a poor memory. Now, the Democrat
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Speaker 2: Party in the media were outraged by this damaging stuff
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Speaker 2: from her, and her was accused of a sleazy assault
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Speaker 2: on Baden, accusing the media of misleading.
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Speaker 5: The country on Baden's memory.
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Speaker 2: But very tellingly, the White House refused to release those
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Speaker 2: tapes of Baden's interview with her so the spin could
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Speaker 2: keep going. Barden sharp as attack a better and that,
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Speaker 2: of course left Biden free to get his party's nomination
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Speaker 2: to run for a second term as president until that
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Speaker 2: first debate with Donald Trump when it all came crashing
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Speaker 2: down and the hoax was exposed.
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Speaker 6: Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary
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Speaker 6: person eligible for what I've been able to do with
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Speaker 6: the with the covid ice, could be with dealing with
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Speaker 6: everything we have to do with. Look, if we finally
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Speaker 6: beat Medicare.
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Speaker 2: Barden had to quit the race, the Democrats scrammed to
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Speaker 2: replace him, rushing the clearly incompetent come of the House,
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Speaker 2: and lost the election. And now come the post mortems.
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Speaker 2: Two revelations, in particular this past week scandalous. One just
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Speaker 2: released is the tape of that Robert Hurr interview that
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Speaker 2: with Biden a couple of years ago that the White
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Speaker 2: House hit now released. The tapes turned out to even
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Speaker 2: worse than you could imagine, so bad that it is
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Speaker 2: impossible for anyone who was working with Barden to now
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Speaker 2: claim they had no idea he was actually mentally incompetent.
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Speaker 2: Listen to this excerpt when he's totally confused even about
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Speaker 2: when his eldest son died and when he stopped being
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Speaker 2: vice president, where did you keep the papers?
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Speaker 10: Deadly to those things that you were actually working.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: This is what.
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Speaker 5: Twenty seventeen eighteen.
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Speaker 11: Bob diet amazed, twenty fifteen days, twenty fifteen, seamp gets
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Speaker 11: elected in November of twenty seventeen, sixteen, twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 2: Anyone in the White House who enabled this fraud to continue,
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Speaker 2: this man to continue pretending to be president, is in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, guilty of treason. And now comes this book
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Speaker 2: as well that I mentioned, claiming to expose this big
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Speaker 2: cover up. He is its author, seen and host Jake Tapper.
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Speaker 8: Why didn't we hear some of these details from what
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Speaker 8: they actually saw? And we're dealing with trying to get information. Well,
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Speaker 8: Alex Thompson and I were on the case, as were
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Speaker 8: lots of other reporters trying to figure out what was
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Speaker 8: going on behind the scenes. But the bottom line is
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Speaker 8: the White House was lying not only to the press,
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Speaker 8: not only to the public, but they were lying to
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Speaker 8: members of their own cabinet. They were lying to White
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Speaker 8: House staffers.
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Speaker 2: Now that's actually a cop out. You've got to ask
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Speaker 2: why was the media so easily fooled on most of it?
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Speaker 2: I mean, we had a story for you, Well, why
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Speaker 2: was it actually actively lying about Biden. Now that's same
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Speaker 2: Jake Tepper you just saw there in fact.
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Speaker 5: Now exposing it. He was actually part of it.
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Speaker 2: He was as vicious as anyone when Boden was actually president,
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Speaker 2: shooting down people suggesting Biden was mentally losing it.
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Speaker 10: Every time he comes on stage or they turned to him.
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Speaker 12: I'm like, Joe, can you.
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Speaker 13: Get it out?
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Speaker 6: Let's get the words out. Joe, you kind of feel
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Speaker 6: bad for him.
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Speaker 8: How do you think it makes little kids with stutters
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Speaker 8: feel when they see you make a comment like that.
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Speaker 2: I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden,
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Speaker 2: Jake is very clearly a cognitive decline.
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm referring to.
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Speaker 12: It makes me uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: You are.
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Speaker 8: I think that's so amazing. It's so amazing to me
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Speaker 8: that trying figure out an answer cognitive decline.
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Speaker 4: You're can to.
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Speaker 2: Tell me that what I was suggesting.
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Speaker 8: Was I think that you were mocking his stutter. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: I think you were mocking his stutter. And I think
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Speaker 8: you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.
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Speaker 5: Well, just that there is.
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Speaker 2: A message here for the me that right now is
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Speaker 2: arguing just as blindly as the media on the right
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Speaker 2: that everything Donald Trump does is perfect, genius move and
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Speaker 2: you are deranged if you don't see it too. You know,
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Speaker 2: Ukraine going perfectly tarif perfect. But the lying over Baden,
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Speaker 2: I mean that is something else again that has been
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Speaker 2: incredible and boys are backfired. Look at the Democrats now,
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Speaker 2: how they have trashed trust in themselves, trashed trust in
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Speaker 2: America's institutions, trust trust in the media itself, and how they,
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Speaker 2: more than anyone, got Donald Trump elected with their lies. Well,
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Speaker 2: new Liberal leader Susan Lee wrote today a column in
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Speaker 2: The Australian saying what the Liberals should be about is
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Speaker 2: basically motherhood stuff, or should have been. She says the
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Speaker 2: Liberals will always stand for lower, simpler affair taxes, not
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Speaker 2: as an economic ideology, but because we trust people to
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Speaker 2: spend their own money more than we do the government, except,
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Speaker 2: of course, at the last election, well the Liberals actually
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Speaker 2: promised higher taxes, at least higher personal taxes, So I
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Speaker 2: guess we should at least be positive that Lee has
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Speaker 2: already learned one huge lesson, But for the rest she
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Speaker 2: hasn't said anything concrete in that article, like will the
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Speaker 2: Liberals fight for tax cuts, will they steal back nuclear power?
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Speaker 2: Will they steal back net zero? In fact, Lee still
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Speaker 2: hasn't let her deputy leader Ted O'Brien claim the Shadow
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Speaker 2: Treasury job for himself, which sub zests she might have
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Speaker 2: promised it to someone else for the leadership, or doesn't
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Speaker 2: dare take it off Angus Taylor and have him quit politics,
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Speaker 2: leaving her a bit short joined mister Panel Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal President, Steve Conroy, former labor centator and
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Speaker 2: Cabinet minister Stephen I. I don't know if there's any
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Speaker 2: anyone's got any idea where the Liberals are going? Is
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Speaker 2: it more to the left, the ditching nuclear We don't
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Speaker 2: even know who the shadow treasurer is yet it's two
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Speaker 2: weeks later.
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Speaker 5: What do you think is happening?
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Speaker 4: Well, look, I think if I can be fair to
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Speaker 4: susan Land and lives at the moment, they've just suffered,
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Speaker 4: you know, almost the biggest loss in history. So taking
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Speaker 4: the time to absorb that will be a slightly longer
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Speaker 4: process than two weeks. So I think it's a little
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Speaker 4: unfair to say, well, we want to solve all these
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Speaker 4: problems right now in the first two weeks or so
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Speaker 4: after the election is over, I mean, they just lost
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Speaker 4: Bradfield nominally today, which I all thought they were going
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Speaker 4: to win, so there'll be a recount. But I'd rather
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Speaker 4: be forty votes up than forty votes behind in that circumstance.
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Speaker 4: So they've just lost another and her the candid a
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Speaker 4: liberal Canda there I had a good CV looked like
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Speaker 4: could be a you know, a bit of a star
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Speaker 4: of the future. So they've lost another potential new person
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Speaker 4: that would help lead them forward. So I think they're
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Speaker 4: just being hit by all those sort of shocks still,
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Speaker 4: and the Senate has yet to be finished being countered,
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Speaker 4: where they probably will lose three four five potentially as well.
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Speaker 4: So they're getting hammer blow after hammer blow after hammil blow.
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Speaker 4: To try and define absolutely where you might finish in
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Speaker 4: a policy debate internally, is asking a little bit too much, Andrew.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not trying to be You're making good
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Speaker 5: po libs.
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Speaker 4: But it's just a it's just a little hard to.
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Speaker 5: Pull it all together.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I remember what it was like after we
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Speaker 4: lost the later election where we were schillacked, and it
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Speaker 4: does take a fair bit of time.
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Speaker 2: No, No, see, look, you make a good point, But
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Speaker 2: Michael not to know the Shadow Treasury yet after two weeks. Normally,
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Speaker 2: when you've got a deputy, that deputy has their pick
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Speaker 2: of the jobs, and they normally picked shadow Treasury because
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Speaker 2: I think it's a great way to be very centralt
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Speaker 2: with the government and become the next leader themselves. Why
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Speaker 2: would there Why isn't Ted O'Brien the shadow named as
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Speaker 2: the shadow treasurer Do you think.
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Speaker 1: Well, Andrew, you're jumping in the gun a bit because
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Speaker 1: they haven't announced the shadow cabinet yet. She's only been
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Speaker 1: there less than a week. I mean, there's no urgency.
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Speaker 1: The election's not for three years, and of course you've
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Speaker 1: got to work through dozens of positions, so there's no
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Speaker 1: big deal. If Ted O'Brien wants to be the Shadow
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Speaker 1: Treasury he will be on the other animetor side. He
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Speaker 1: wants to stay an energy where he's got a lot
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Speaker 1: of brownie points and credit for having the courage to
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Speaker 1: front the nuclear issue. So quite frankly, there is nothing
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Speaker 1: to see here, Andrew, because it takes time to announce
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Speaker 1: these things. So no, no issue. But on your bigger point,
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Speaker 1: the substaining point, where the party's going well, sooner or later.
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Speaker 1: The economic reality is dick will hit Western governments around
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Speaker 1: the world. It just hit America yesterday with a downgrading
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Speaker 1: of their credit rating. Liberal leaders need to say to
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Speaker 1: the electorate that unlimited debt, endless deficits are unsustainable and
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Speaker 1: they have to start lecturing the community about debt. Not
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Speaker 1: that households need much lecturing because they understand that they
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Speaker 1: don't have an unlimited credit card. And I'm sure a
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Speaker 1: lot of people think will thank god the governments we've
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Speaker 1: never got, governments who are economic response will not just
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Speaker 1: going to morge the future of our children. So the
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Speaker 1: primary job of the liberal leader is to talk about
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Speaker 1: economic management and announce that every single government benefit is
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Speaker 1: means tested going on because governments cannot continue to spend
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Speaker 1: thirty five billion dollars a year more than warning. And
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Speaker 1: that's what's happening over the next four or five eight years.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, Now let me just say it again. The deputy
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Speaker 2: leader is entitled to the choice of portfolio. Doesn't need
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Speaker 2: the rest of the shadow cabinet being announced. They can
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Speaker 2: say thank you for making a deputy leader and I'd
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Speaker 2: act to be treasurer and that's done. But he hasn't
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Speaker 2: done that, and there is And I get frustrated on
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Speaker 2: behalf of the Liberal Party because because Stephen, the Albanize
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Speaker 2: government's green hydrogen dream keeps collapsing every single week. A
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Speaker 2: new announcement two days ago, the latest yet another scheme,
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Speaker 2: a fifteen billion dollar planned green hydrogen plant in the
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Speaker 2: northern territories. The miracle green fuel that the Governor's been
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Speaker 2: spooking it bit the dust, put on hold, it's not financial.
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Speaker 2: In fact, none of the six big green hydrogen produce
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Speaker 2: the government listed a year and a half ago as
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Speaker 2: the first to get funding on its two billion dollar
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Speaker 2: green HydroD scheme is now going ahead. Not a single one. Now,
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Speaker 2: shouldn't the Liberals be I know they've got so much
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Speaker 2: on their plate now, but I would like to see
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Speaker 2: them right now going into the government over this massive
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Speaker 2: collapse that's happening in front their eyes on the green
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Speaker 2: energy scheme, and stop losing confidence themselves and backing off
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Speaker 2: opposing the screen energy push.
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Speaker 4: Well, look at this, it's a little bit of a
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Speaker 4: tricky one. It's a subset of the zero target by
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Speaker 4: twenty fifty, and so if you're buying into it in
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Speaker 4: one angle, you're really recreating the problem, and that issue,
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Speaker 4: more than any other, appears to be bedeviling the opposition.
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Speaker 4: The nuclear power was a good cover that kept everybody,
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Speaker 4: nationals and liberals in the same part. And until the
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Speaker 4: opposition can fundamentally resolve the direction they want to go,
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Speaker 4: they're going to not be able to prosecute this case.
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Speaker 4: Either they're going to be for the nuclear option or
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Speaker 4: against the nuclear option, and they're either four net zero
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Speaker 4: by twenty fifty or they're going to abolish it. And
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Speaker 4: so they've got not a lot of credibility right now
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Speaker 4: to prosecute the green hydrogen case. To pick your example,
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Speaker 4: and that's a fair example for you to point towards.
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Speaker 4: So until they can resolve those, they can't prosecute this case.
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Speaker 5: Well, they can oppose.
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Speaker 2: Look, it's two billion dollars to it what was always
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Speaker 2: a poe in the sky. It is critical to the
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Speaker 2: government's zero plans because electricity is only one third of
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Speaker 2: our emissions. You've got to have a different fuel as well.
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Speaker 2: Green hydrogen was supposed to be it. It's going absolutely nowhere.
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Speaker 2: It is central and it should be criticized as a
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Speaker 2: par in the sky thing, and it can be done now,
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Speaker 2: Michael email.
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Speaker 5: The ganderous.
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Speaker 1: Now, I was going to say, why does Australia need
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Speaker 1: to be a leader in green Why does Australia need
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Speaker 1: to be a leader in green hydrogen? It's not It's
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Speaker 1: very embyondic worldwide. Right, it takes an enormous amount of water,
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Speaker 1: land regulation, it's very expensive and no one's buying it
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Speaker 1: in Australia at power right, new renewable power or fossil hills. Now,
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Speaker 1: apart from all those issues, it's going great. But again Andrew,
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Speaker 1: like nuclear, this doesn't matter for the private This doesn't
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Speaker 1: matter for the private sector. Why are governments putting billions
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Speaker 1: of dollars?
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Speaker 12: Right?
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Speaker 1: We used to have a thing in Australia that governments
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Speaker 1: shouldn't pick winners. Since COVID, which and during the COVID
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Speaker 1: period we're all taught that governments can intervene in every
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Speaker 1: part of your live to save your lives. Since COVID,
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Speaker 1: we've been stuck in this environment where the government can
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Speaker 1: fix everything. And so aw benys he puts a billion
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Speaker 1: dollars into solar panels because he thinks we can make
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Speaker 1: them cheaper and better than China. I mean, these schemes
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Speaker 1: of unlimited money. No, let's wait and see green hiring
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Speaker 1: develop to commercial levels around the world and save our money,
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Speaker 1: and then we can just copy them rather than waste
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Speaker 1: billions of dollars of the Australian governments money where potentially
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Speaker 1: this may not work at commercial scale. Andrew, for goodness say.
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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, market, you've said more on that topic than
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Speaker 2: any liberal has said for two weeks. Meanwhile, the government
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Speaker 2: Stephen is crashing ahead with its plan to double the
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Speaker 2: tax on earnings in super accounts above three million dollars,
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Speaker 2: even taking taxing unrealized gains as the paper value of
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Speaker 2: investments that people haven't actually sold. You know, we guess
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Speaker 2: that you're the business of investment is worth x. We're
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Speaker 2: going to tax you that. Oh I've got to sell
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Speaker 2: the business to make my tax bill.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 2: The government says it only applies to eighty thousand accounts
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Speaker 2: of rich people. Who cares about the rich, And so
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Speaker 2: what if the threshold of accounts is an index the
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Speaker 2: more people in time be infected. Given inflation, it's going
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Speaker 2: to you know, make a three million look.
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Speaker 5: Like not much.
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Speaker 2: And the liberals, the liberals are making this a big
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Speaker 2: issue and I get that. I'm not so sure it's
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Speaker 2: going to butt with the voters. Where do you think
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Speaker 2: this is going?
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Speaker 4: Look, I think you did right, Andrew. I mean as firstly,
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Speaker 4: the government just took it to an election and got
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Speaker 4: an overwhelming mandate to do it. That's the first point anything.
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Speaker 4: Lots of people ask why didn't why why didn't the
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Speaker 4: Liberals run hard in the action campaign? Why they suddenly
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Speaker 4: discovered this issue after the election campaign? For the reason
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Speaker 4: you've just said, Andrew, it is not going to bite
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Speaker 4: with the voters. I mean, making your key argument through
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Speaker 4: five erection campaign, We're going to protect people. I've got
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Speaker 4: three million dollars in the superannuation account really wasn't going
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Speaker 4: to fly. And so the Liberals were right not to
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Speaker 4: waste a second talking about it during the election campaign.
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Speaker 4: They should have been talking about cost of living issues,
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Speaker 4: not about protecting people three million dollars. So I understand
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Speaker 4: that I've got a conservative media bubble in Sydney, the
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Speaker 4: conservative media babble and any issue to thrash thrash the
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Speaker 4: government on.
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Speaker 2: Well, the argument that that three million dollar threshold is
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Speaker 2: in tax in the is an index and therefore in
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Speaker 2: time three million a lot of people be in the three. Well,
21:03
Speaker 2: you know, it's open to any government going to an
21:05
Speaker 2: election to say we're going to, you know, raise the
21:07
Speaker 2: threshold like they do with taxes. I don't know a
21:10
Speaker 2: personal tax. I'm not quite sure if it's a big seller.
21:13
Speaker 2: Michael Krogue, Stephen Conroy, thank you very much to you both.
21:17
Speaker 2: This new pope, I got to say I like him already.
21:21
Speaker 2: Pope Leo was inaugurated yesterday and Saint Peter's in Rome
21:24
Speaker 2: in front of two hundred thousand people who were there,
21:28
Speaker 2: millions watching, of course, and with politicians from around the
21:31
Speaker 2: world watching on, and he got a special hug from
21:34
Speaker 2: his brother flown in from America. I like the way
21:36
Speaker 2: they're so close to those two. And I thought some
21:39
Speaker 2: people reveal themselves perhaps too much in the way they
21:42
Speaker 2: later congratulated the Pope personally like our Anthony. Albanezier Prime
21:46
Speaker 2: Minister exploited his Catholic up bringing, as you know, a
21:49
Speaker 2: lot during the campaign, despite not being a believer. And
21:53
Speaker 2: here's what he later said. He told the Pope in
21:55
Speaker 2: their meeting that Albaniz's mother would be proud of albow.
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Speaker 14: My mother would be is I'm sure looking down from
22:05
Speaker 14: heaven with the biggest smile she's ever had, the fact
22:09
Speaker 14: that her son was that the inaugural mass of a
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Speaker 14: pope in the Vatican.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Prime Minister, but the inauguration of the Pope
22:22
Speaker 2: isn't all about you, but US Vice President J. D.
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Speaker 5: Vance.
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Speaker 2: He got a cold reception from the Pope. And that's,
22:29
Speaker 2: of course, after the Pope a few sometime back correct
22:32
Speaker 2: Advance on X when Vance ridiculously suggested the Bible told
22:36
Speaker 2: us to love our own more than we love our neighbors,
22:39
Speaker 2: and to love our neighbors more than we love strangers.
22:41
Speaker 2: I suspect the Pope also hated the way Vance and
22:44
Speaker 2: Trump bullied Ukrainian President Vodim and Zelensky the White House,
22:48
Speaker 2: because the Pope then gave a private audience to Zelenski,
22:52
Speaker 2: but not to Advance.
22:54
Speaker 5: Thank you for your preessions, wording his name. That's good
22:57
Speaker 5: to hold his allegations.
22:59
Speaker 2: But Zelenski or class did shake Vance the hands of
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Speaker 2: Vance and his wife at the ceremony, and Albaniez he
23:06
Speaker 2: also met to Zelenski later and claimed we'd finally loaded
23:09
Speaker 2: onto a ship. The first lot of the forty nine
23:11
Speaker 2: old Abraham's thanks that were promised to seeing Ukraine seven
23:15
Speaker 2: months ago. Joining me is the country's top foreign affairs right,
23:18
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan of the Australian Great great to see. What
23:21
Speaker 2: did you read into all those hints? I thought, it's
23:23
Speaker 2: fascinating when you chuckle these people together at a disparate
23:26
Speaker 2: kind you know, a vague kind of event. They're not
23:29
Speaker 2: sure what's supposed to do, and read their interactions.
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Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, it's great to be with you. And look,
23:38
Speaker 12: I am tremendously encouraged by Pope Leo the fourteenth. We've
23:41
Speaker 12: got to we've got to take some time to see
23:44
Speaker 12: how he performs. But everything about him so far is good.
23:48
Speaker 12: He's calm, he's measured. He exudes spiritual devotion and common sense.
23:55
Speaker 12: He spoke first about God, not about politics. His statements
23:58
Speaker 12: about the family and about the sanctity of life have
24:01
Speaker 12: been wonderful. I think there's a modesty to the man,
24:05
Speaker 12: but he understands the gravity of his office, so he
24:08
Speaker 12: doesn't make loose statements or say silly things. We've got
24:11
Speaker 12: to see how he performs. I mean, this is the
24:14
Speaker 12: loneliest job in the world, and perhaps the job with
24:16
Speaker 12: the greatest pressure. But I'm tremendously encouraged by Leo the fourteenth.
24:21
Speaker 12: Who would ever have thought the cardinals, all of them
24:23
Speaker 12: appointed by Francis or most of them, would choose an American.
24:27
Speaker 12: But they chose the right person. And he may come
24:31
Speaker 12: to express some political views I don't agree with. I
24:34
Speaker 12: don't know, but I think the Church has been wise
24:38
Speaker 12: to use the election of the Pope and the First
24:41
Speaker 12: Mass and everything as wonderful opportunities of evangelization. And the
24:46
Speaker 12: message he's wanted to broadcast is the message of Christ's love,
24:50
Speaker 12: more than the message of the institutional church or the
24:54
Speaker 12: dangers of climate change or anything like that. I think
24:57
Speaker 12: he's an even tempered, why eyes good man, and you know,
25:03
Speaker 12: I hope he has a long and wonderful reign.
25:07
Speaker 2: Look, you're absolutely right to say the first focus is
25:10
Speaker 2: on Christ.
25:11
Speaker 5: I mean, that is his job.
25:13
Speaker 2: But I thought it definitely sent a signal that he
25:16
Speaker 2: invited the cameras in to see him, welcoming President Zelenski
25:20
Speaker 2: into his private office and his wife too, and showing
25:24
Speaker 2: them religious things.
25:25
Speaker 5: And no doubt talking about Ukraine in private.
25:28
Speaker 2: I thought that sent a very unmistakable message that you
25:31
Speaker 2: wouldn't have seen necessarily.
25:32
Speaker 12: I think Francis, no, no, Francis was can I utterly
25:37
Speaker 12: mean and niggardly towards Ukraine, whereas Leo is very supportive.
25:43
Speaker 5: And that's after just a few days.
25:46
Speaker 2: Joe Barden go back to the top of the show,
25:49
Speaker 2: says he has advanced prostate cancer metastasized, which is bizarre
25:54
Speaker 2: given that you're supposed to be able to pick it
25:56
Speaker 2: up years ago, you know, years ahead of time, and
26:00
Speaker 2: he's had all these tests. That's again the race concerns
26:03
Speaker 2: that he, his wife and his staff lied and lied
26:07
Speaker 2: and lied about him being fit and sharp enough to
26:10
Speaker 2: run for president last year and serve, what's more, another
26:14
Speaker 2: four years in office. This is a scandal. There seems
26:18
Speaker 2: to be developing. I mean, he should have been developed
26:22
Speaker 2: in his time in office, but really developing now, Yeah.
26:27
Speaker 12: I think you're absolutely right, Andrews. So you know, at
26:29
Speaker 12: the personal level, we all wish mister Biden well, you know,
26:33
Speaker 12: and that he recovers or that he endures you know,
26:36
Speaker 12: well his illness. No personal animosity towards him, but it's
26:41
Speaker 12: very clear that Joe Biden told monstrous lies in office.
26:45
Speaker 12: So you know, it's a wonderful. I make this point
26:47
Speaker 12: in a column in the paper tomorrow. Trump lies all
26:51
Speaker 12: the time, but everyone knows he's lying, and he knows
26:54
Speaker 12: everyone knows he's lying, so it's kind of it's almost
26:57
Speaker 12: not lying, you know. He says I can fix Ukraine
26:59
Speaker 12: Russia are in a day. Everyone knew that was rubbish,
27:02
Speaker 12: and he knew that everyone knew. Whereas Biden told us
27:06
Speaker 12: really solemn, serious, profound things which were not true. He
27:11
Speaker 12: told us he'd never pardon his son, Hunter Biden. He
27:14
Speaker 12: told us Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian this information. He
27:17
Speaker 12: told us he was fit and healthy, never been fitter
27:20
Speaker 12: and fit to be president for another four years. Whereas
27:23
Speaker 12: now all of his former supporters in the world of journalism,
27:26
Speaker 12: Jake Tapper from CNN particularly prominent amongst them, writing books
27:31
Speaker 12: detailing that his doctor told him he'd be in a
27:35
Speaker 12: wheelchair because he had crippling arthritis of his spine. He
27:39
Speaker 12: never took a cognitive test because it was obvious that
27:42
Speaker 12: he was going.
27:42
Speaker 5: To fail it.
27:43
Speaker 12: Everyone around him knew that he couldn't cope. They didn't
27:47
Speaker 12: have a cabinet meeting for twelve months because he was
27:50
Speaker 12: scared to be exposed to his cabinet secretaries. So he
27:54
Speaker 12: knew that he was not fit to be president, but
27:57
Speaker 12: he was determined to hang on. Around him were determined
28:01
Speaker 12: that he hang on because they get their positions that
28:04
Speaker 12: way too. And this is indeed a scandal. So who
28:08
Speaker 12: is the greater liar? Trump who lies sort of routinely
28:12
Speaker 12: but never makes a pretense that what he's saying is true.
28:15
Speaker 12: Or Biden, who lied really profoundly about all kinds of
28:19
Speaker 12: critical matters and yet clothed himself in the raiments of
28:23
Speaker 12: moral rectitude.
28:26
Speaker 2: And of course destroyed his party In the meantime, had
28:30
Speaker 2: he only been honest a few years ago, they would
28:33
Speaker 2: have had time to get a more credible candid than
28:35
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. I think that's just his friends should be.
28:40
Speaker 2: His allies should be unforgiving about what was done to
28:44
Speaker 2: them and their party. Greg Sheridan, thank you so much
28:47
Speaker 2: for your time. After the break, China exposes the greatest
28:52
Speaker 2: lie told by Labor during the election. After this, we're
29:01
Speaker 2: talking about lies, serious lies, lies that are now being exposed.
29:06
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi won the election with their giant lie that
29:09
Speaker 2: the coalition's planned to build seven nuclear reactors would cost
29:13
Speaker 2: six hundred billion dollars complete falsehood. In fact, China has
29:19
Speaker 2: now announced that will build ten more nuclear reactors for
29:23
Speaker 2: just forty three billion dollars, not six hundred forty three billion,
29:29
Speaker 2: And Japan says it will expand its own nuclear power
29:31
Speaker 2: industry Belgium and Denmark and meanwhile scrapping their own bands
29:35
Speaker 2: on nuclear I mean all this is something the liberals
29:40
Speaker 2: should take very, very seriously before they go all wobbly
29:44
Speaker 2: on nuclear power of some now seem to be doing.
29:48
Speaker 2: And a new leader, Susan Lee, they are now in
29:50
Speaker 2: a huge wrestle, of course, about what they actually do
29:52
Speaker 2: believe in after their horror loss. Do they still believe
29:56
Speaker 2: in nuclear power? More specifically, do they still believe in
30:00
Speaker 2: net zero emissions target by twenty fifty. Yeah, that's where
30:04
Speaker 2: we're going to. That's forcing us to slash emissions. That
30:07
Speaker 2: horrendous coss You look at your powerless, for instance, without
30:10
Speaker 2: actually making a blind bit of difference than anyone can
30:13
Speaker 2: measure to the climate or pain.
30:16
Speaker 5: No gain.
30:17
Speaker 2: Now, some of the liberal left the public, you're argue
30:19
Speaker 2: in that net zero target must stay, but not because
30:23
Speaker 2: it makes any sense, apparently just because it's popular.
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Speaker 15: I have a personal opinion on that, of course, and
30:30
Speaker 15: you know that would be that the electric has sent
30:34
Speaker 15: us a very clear message what it is that they
30:36
Speaker 15: want in their government abandoning net zero. I don't necessarily
30:40
Speaker 15: think is consistent with that?
30:42
Speaker 2: Is that how the liberals now decide critical economic and
30:47
Speaker 2: technical questions? Oh, before I get back to what do
30:50
Speaker 2: the polls say? And another Liberal MP, Garth Hamilton, has
30:55
Speaker 2: written today he cannot support net zero when it is
30:59
Speaker 2: a blank check that will cost us who knows what
31:03
Speaker 2: to achieve? Joining me is Garth Hamilton? Garth, great to
31:07
Speaker 2: see you again. Why do you say that zero target
31:10
Speaker 2: is a blank check?
31:14
Speaker 16: Well, very simply, Andrew, I don't know what it costs.
31:17
Speaker 16: No one can answer that question if we look at
31:19
Speaker 16: any other policy setting we have orcus ndis a free
31:23
Speaker 16: trade agreement even in land rail. We can put a
31:26
Speaker 16: cost to it. Now we can have a discussion as
31:27
Speaker 16: to whether that cost is appropriate. It's too much, it's
31:30
Speaker 16: too high when it comes in at zero, we don't
31:33
Speaker 16: know what that cost is. And it's not just a
31:35
Speaker 16: one off change. We're talking about fundamentally changing our economy
31:39
Speaker 16: from now and for forever. That cost is going to
31:42
Speaker 16: be born it's going to be borne by future generations.
31:44
Speaker 16: I think, for a start, that's not a position that
31:46
Speaker 16: Liberal Party should ever be doing. It's pushing costs that
31:50
Speaker 16: feel good today onto future generations. But I just can't
31:53
Speaker 16: tell you what that cost is, Andrew. And I think
31:55
Speaker 16: if we want to retain the mantle was strong economic managers,
31:59
Speaker 16: that's a fair and question for us to be able
32:01
Speaker 16: to ask of any policy.
32:05
Speaker 2: We know that the Nationals, your coalition partners, they seem
32:10
Speaker 2: to be red hot now against net zero targets, so
32:13
Speaker 2: certainly against dropping the nuclear policy. How many of you
32:17
Speaker 2: and the Liberals feel that way do you think?
32:23
Speaker 16: Look, I can't be sure, and as always Andrew, ever
32:25
Speaker 16: since I've come on your show, I speak my mind
32:27
Speaker 16: and for myself, and I think that's important to do.
32:30
Speaker 16: I think a lot of Liberals, Andrew though, are very
32:32
Speaker 16: very clear now that net zero is an economic policy
32:36
Speaker 16: and that they're seeing that we need to regain that
32:38
Speaker 16: economic narrative. That's the driver in the conversations that we're
32:42
Speaker 16: going to be having in the Liberal Party, no doubt,
32:44
Speaker 16: is the economics of this and how that stands up
32:47
Speaker 16: against our desire to be seen as that strong economic team.
32:51
Speaker 16: But look, I think this is going to be a
32:52
Speaker 16: cause of some debate. I think it's good that we
32:54
Speaker 16: have that debate, Andrew, I think it's important that the
32:56
Speaker 16: nation sees has been willing to have an open debate
32:58
Speaker 16: on a issue that's important.
33:00
Speaker 4: This.
33:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Garth, I would like that debate to be
33:04
Speaker 2: a serious one, you know, an adult one. What about
33:07
Speaker 2: the argument that Jane Hume has been your finance spokesman
33:11
Speaker 2: for a few years made today that voters actually said
33:15
Speaker 2: no to scrapping that zero and that's a very serious
33:19
Speaker 2: consideration for it.
33:23
Speaker 16: We Look, I have a lot of respect for Jane.
33:26
Speaker 16: What I would say is, I'm not sure that we've
33:28
Speaker 16: seen that for a start. Even if that there's a
33:31
Speaker 16: position you want to take, an easy counter would be
33:34
Speaker 16: that since we adopted a that zero position the Liberal Party,
33:38
Speaker 16: we've lost thirty five seats.
33:40
Speaker 5: Now.
33:40
Speaker 16: I don't think that it's directly related to that. I
33:42
Speaker 16: think there's a lot of issues. But if you want
33:44
Speaker 16: to pick out just one part of a narrative and
33:47
Speaker 16: suggest that that's what the voters have responded to, I
33:50
Speaker 16: don't think that's taken into account the broader picture. But
33:54
Speaker 16: I do think this should be a conversation on principles
33:56
Speaker 16: on values. The Liberal Party has been very very clear
34:00
Speaker 16: we don't want to put the costs of today on
34:03
Speaker 16: the future generations. We want people to trust us when
34:06
Speaker 16: it comes to their finances. And I think looking around
34:09
Speaker 16: the world and all around Australia, I think we have some
34:11
Speaker 16: hard times still ahead of us in the economy.
34:15
Speaker 2: The better the world, you've got to look where them
34:18
Speaker 2: will be in three years, Look where the economy will
34:22
Speaker 2: be in three years, where our powers will be in
34:24
Speaker 2: three years? And tailor is your positions now? David little Proud,
34:27
Speaker 2: the Nationals leader today, seem to suggest the compromise. If
34:31
Speaker 2: the Liberals do want to stick to net zero, they
34:34
Speaker 2: have to stick with nuclear power.
34:35
Speaker 7: Here is, you can't get to net zero without nuclear energy. Now,
34:40
Speaker 7: whether it's specifically the policy that we took around government
34:43
Speaker 7: owned or whether it's simply removing the moratorium, I think
34:46
Speaker 7: you have to be pragmatic. You cannot do an all
34:48
Speaker 7: renewables approach and keep the economy going.
34:52
Speaker 2: Garth Hamilton, do you agree that you just do need
34:56
Speaker 2: nuclear power or it's the converse also true that if
34:59
Speaker 2: you scrap the net zero target, you won't have to
35:03
Speaker 2: have nuclear powers, stick with coal, stick with gas.
35:07
Speaker 16: But it's interesting I could look to my Queensland State
35:10
Speaker 16: colleagues who have a third pathway, Andrew, which is stick
35:13
Speaker 16: to net zero and also have coal and gas. I
35:18
Speaker 16: think Miss little Proud says some very sensible things in
35:20
Speaker 16: what is put there.
35:23
Speaker 5: But Andrew, surely our energy mix.
35:25
Speaker 16: Should be reflective of the resources that are available to us.
35:28
Speaker 16: That's a really simple, pragmatic statement. I don't think there's
35:32
Speaker 16: anything controversial about that. We should be exploring every opportunity
35:35
Speaker 16: for Australians to get ahead. Clearly, if you look around
35:38
Speaker 16: the world, the countries that are able to make a
35:40
Speaker 16: net zero commitment and progress on it have nuclear The
35:43
Speaker 16: two go hand in hand. There's no doubt on that.
35:46
Speaker 16: But we don't have an answer this right for Australia,
35:49
Speaker 16: right for the Australian people. And as you point out,
35:51
Speaker 16: we're going to be in three years time when I
35:53
Speaker 16: think things going to be even tighter than they are now.
35:56
Speaker 2: They certainly will, Garth, and I think you've got to
35:59
Speaker 2: be in a position to exploit that brutal reality. Garth Hamilton,
36:03
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. After the break, I mean
36:07
Speaker 2: talk about deluded you actually had Jews defending Hamath in
36:11
Speaker 2: a New South Wales inquiry today, claiming that Hamas isn't
36:15
Speaker 2: a pack of Jew haters. They are about to get
36:17
Speaker 2: schooled after this. It is hard to believe how stupid
36:25
Speaker 2: some people can be defending even terrorists who would gladly
36:29
Speaker 2: kill them. Today in the New Southwest Parliament in hearings
36:32
Speaker 2: into Jew hatred here, Jews from a hard left anti
36:36
Speaker 2: Israel group called Jews Against the Occupation forty eight claimed
36:41
Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorist group, which thoughted twelve hundred Jews on
36:44
Speaker 2: October seven, it wasn't a pack of Jew haters.
36:48
Speaker 13: Hamas and Hbolah terrorists are not anti Semitic organizations, not
36:53
Speaker 13: by their statement, not by the covements, not by their action.
36:55
Speaker 10: Just to clariby, you don't believe that HESBLA and Harmasa
36:59
Speaker 10: anti semiticalization. No, No, that is an extraordinary state.
37:05
Speaker 13: No, it isn't actually so, mister Orman.
37:07
Speaker 10: Will you condemn the massacre that took place on October seventh.
37:13
Speaker 13: No, if you have any problem with Hamas's rule, go
37:17
Speaker 13: to Tel Aviv and start arguing with the Department of
37:20
Speaker 13: Defense over there. Hamas's attacks was an outcome of Israel's
37:25
Speaker 13: continued occupation.
37:27
Speaker 2: That impregnable ignorance is so stunning. Let me quote from
37:32
Speaker 2: the actual Charter of Hamas, the foundation document, which was
37:35
Speaker 2: rewritten only eight years ago to hide what Hamas really thought.
37:39
Speaker 2: It says the day of judgment will not come about
37:44
Speaker 2: until Muslims fight Jews and kill them with their money.
37:49
Speaker 2: It goes on, the Jews took control of the world's media.
37:53
Speaker 2: They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution. With
37:56
Speaker 2: their money, they formed secret organizations such as the Freemasons,
38:00
Speaker 2: Rotary Clubs, and the Lions, which is spreading around the
38:03
Speaker 2: world in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests.
38:08
Speaker 2: They be behind World War One world War two, through
38:11
Speaker 2: which they made huge financial gains. There is no will
38:15
Speaker 2: going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.
38:20
Speaker 2: Joining me is Lewis Roberts, SCYE News contributed and also
38:23
Speaker 2: Stephen Trevura, history lecturer and author, Stephen How on earth
38:28
Speaker 2: is that group not anti Semitic? How blind are these people?
38:34
Speaker 17: It's hard, It's hard to understand why he would say
38:38
Speaker 17: something like Harmas are not anti Semitic. Now there is
38:42
Speaker 17: a debate among universities in Australia right now about the
38:45
Speaker 17: definition of anti Semitism, and that's an important debate to
38:48
Speaker 17: have because you don't want to you don't want to
38:50
Speaker 17: define it so broadly that legitimate political discussion becomes chilled.
38:55
Speaker 17: But this group against the Occupation forty eight, they take
39:00
Speaker 17: one of the most extreme views of Israel, and their
39:03
Speaker 17: view is basically that Israel should not exist, and that
39:06
Speaker 17: was a view expressed only three days ago at Sydney
39:09
Speaker 17: University at a forum there a guy literally said Israel
39:13
Speaker 17: has no right to exist. And so they are actually
39:15
Speaker 17: in favor of what's often called a one state solution.
39:18
Speaker 17: But the one state solution is basically the idea that
39:20
Speaker 17: the Israelis and the Palestinians all live together in a nice,
39:24
Speaker 17: democratic state, which would mean that the Israelis would no
39:28
Speaker 17: longer have a military to protect them, which in effect
39:31
Speaker 17: would mean definite attempts to annihilate the Jews, because that's
39:36
Speaker 17: exactly what supporters of Hamas want, and the idea that
39:39
Speaker 17: the Jews should be annihilated is not a fringe you
39:42
Speaker 17: among Palestinians. So this group is just off the planet
39:47
Speaker 17: and their actual agenda would almost certainly lead to attempts
39:51
Speaker 17: of genocide.
39:54
Speaker 2: Look, I really don't get these people, Luisa, try to explain.
39:58
Speaker 5: Them to me.
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Speaker 9: Well, it defies logic, as we're saying, and I think
40:02
Speaker 9: they don't actually represent Jewish people. They don't represent Jewish
40:06
Speaker 9: Australians who we work with and who we know, and
40:09
Speaker 9: who would be absolutely disgusted by this position as well.
40:13
Speaker 9: And the fact that he refused to condemn Hamas in
40:16
Speaker 9: our democratic parliament I found was absolutely appalling as well.
40:20
Speaker 9: And we know October seven wasn't about land or borders.
40:23
Speaker 9: It was about murdering Jewish people. So for him to
40:26
Speaker 9: deny there's anything anti Semitic about the group and who
40:30
Speaker 9: he represents is absolutely appalling.
40:34
Speaker 2: Look, I've been to one of the kibbutzers that was
40:39
Speaker 2: badly attacked during that October seventeen. If you've been there
40:42
Speaker 2: and you go from house to house to house to house,
40:45
Speaker 2: is see each one having me shut up and burn,
40:48
Speaker 2: shut up and burn, shut up and burn.
40:50
Speaker 12: Here.
40:51
Speaker 2: They were killing a grandmother here, they killed some children here,
40:54
Speaker 2: they raped someone here, they kidnapped this person. Civilians, all
40:58
Speaker 2: of them, civilians, all of them. You cannot but see
41:03
Speaker 2: with your own eyes that this was due hatred manifests.
41:06
Speaker 2: I mean that guy's poisonous. But some people congratulate themselves
41:10
Speaker 2: and seeing what others don't, thinking they see further they do.
41:13
Speaker 5: In fact, they're fantasizing. By the way.
41:16
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, there's been an explosions even in the number of
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Speaker 2: people identifying as Aboriginal. Tens and tens of thousands more
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Speaker 2: people in the census call themselves Aboriginal that are going
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Speaker 2: to be explained by the birth rate. Does that surprise
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Speaker 2: you when, for instance, the Victorian government now announces it's
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Speaker 2: building social housing in Geelong and other centers around Victoria
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Speaker 2: only for Aborigines. These are reserved for Aborigines.
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Speaker 5: I mean cheering them on.
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Speaker 2: Is for instance, the head of Aboriginal Housing Victoria, Darren Smith,
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Speaker 2: who himself identifies as Aboriginal.
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Speaker 18: Here is I think you can draw a line with
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Speaker 18: early settlement, early colonization, and the dispossession of people from
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Speaker 18: country and I think all of those things contribute to
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Speaker 18: Aberginal people losing their economy, losing their homes.
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Speaker 2: Stephen, I've got no reason at all to doubt that
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Speaker 2: Darren Smith are some average ancestors as well as white ones.
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Speaker 2: But does it surprise you that more and more average
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Speaker 2: and activists now complain that many other people seem to
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Speaker 2: identify as aboriginal, queuing up for these goodies when there's
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Speaker 2: no relevance that they are what they say.
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Speaker 17: That's right. And actually, when you look at many of
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Speaker 17: the forms that people need to fill out in order
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Speaker 17: to indicate aboriginality, the proof required is often very flimsy.
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Speaker 17: Often it's just a tick of a box or a
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Speaker 17: signature from someone in the community. It might be a
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Speaker 17: school principle, that might be a clergyman. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 17: it doesn't necessarily constitute hard proof for any of this. Now,
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Speaker 17: from nineteen oh one to nineteen sixty six, the number
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Speaker 17: of Australian Aborigines was pretty stable at about eighty thousand.
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Speaker 17: Today it's around about eight hundred thousand, and by about
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Speaker 17: twenty thirty is probably going to get to about one million.
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Speaker 17: And as Gary Johns points out in his book The
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Speaker 17: Burden of Culture, it's really only about twenty maybe twenty
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Speaker 17: five to thirty percent of Indigenous Australians who actually really
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Speaker 17: severely disadvantaged. The rest live roughly on parity with other Australians.
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Speaker 17: And so what that means is everyone who identifies as
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Speaker 17: Aboriginal in order to receive some benefits but could actually
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Speaker 17: probably get by without them, is actually taking from the
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Speaker 17: finite resources, but taking from those who really do need it.
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Speaker 17: And that's why these perverse incentives are so bad, I think,
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Speaker 17: because they rob from the most vulnerable people in this country.
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Speaker 2: So true, so true, Louise, I'm sorry I've lifted this
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Speaker 2: a little short of time. This segment will come and
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Speaker 2: make that up to you next week, Louise Robertson and
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Speaker 2: Steven Javura. Well, after the break, we're going to have
43:59
Speaker 2: a look at immigration in Europe. Two more stabbing attacks.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday an Arabian terrorists allegedly claiming to be asylum seekers unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Esther Crackle won the chaos after this. Jermany seems to
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Speaker 2: be paying for reckless immigration policies. Yesterday an immigrant reportedly
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Speaker 2: from Muslim Kosovo stabbed noisy children and a Syrian asylum
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Speaker 2: seeker stabbed five people outside of bar and It suspected
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Speaker 2: terrorist attack. We go through other recent attacks. Last August,
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Speaker 2: Assyrian killed three people injured eight in Sligen. In January,
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Speaker 2: a man from Afghanistan stabbed a man and a two
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Speaker 2: year old to death. Also in February, a mother and
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Speaker 2: a two year old daughter killed when an Afghan asylum
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Speaker 2: seeker ram his car into a crowd in Munich, and
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Speaker 2: Assyrian teenager allegedly killed the tourist outside Berlin's Holocaust memorial.
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Speaker 2: In April, the Syrian man stabbed another man in a
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Speaker 2: gang attacked. Also in April, seven Syrians arrested in Hamburg
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Speaker 2: after an Iraqi boy fell to death from a tower
44:58
Speaker 2: trying to flee them from London. Is rather broadcasting incommodatus
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Speaker 2: to correctly. Yes, there are now these two separate serving
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Speaker 2: contexts in Germany. It's no surprise, is it that the
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Speaker 2: anti immigrant fire right AfD party in Germany is now
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Speaker 2: the most popular in the polls.
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Speaker 19: Yes, it's not a surprise. But I think what many
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Speaker 19: people are not even realizing is how their voters are,
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Speaker 19: where their voters are coming from, and which sections of
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Speaker 19: German society. I mean, the second largest base base for
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Speaker 19: AfD support are actually gay men, which sounds weird. I
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Speaker 19: mean how this group is not typically known for moving
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Speaker 19: further to the right in politics, but it's because they're saying,
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Speaker 19: you know, they don't want homophobic neighbors. They don't want
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Speaker 19: people from cultures that are known to be hostile to
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Speaker 19: people of their sexuality. They don't want people from alien
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Speaker 19: cultures that don't respect all the progress and the hard
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Speaker 19: work that they've made socially.
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Speaker 10: And all over.
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Speaker 19: Europe you're seeing this rise of sort of lone wolf
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Speaker 19: attacks a lot of the time from people from asylum backgrounds,
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Speaker 19: usually men working age men or for fighting age men
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Speaker 19: more like. You know, you saw the attack of Abdullah
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Speaker 19: Zid who poured said on a mother and her two children.
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Speaker 19: He was a failed asylum seeker here in the UK
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Speaker 19: from Afghanistan. He apparently converted to Christianity, which allowed him
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Speaker 19: to be successful in his third asylum attempt. He couldn't
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Speaker 19: even sit in a church by himself, but he was
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Speaker 19: allowed to remain in the UK to carry out these attacks.
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Speaker 19: In Germany, for example, the only reason why the German
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Speaker 19: government has become harder on asylum seekers is because in
46:21
Speaker 19: twenty twenty three you had a record three hundred and
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Speaker 19: thirty thousand asylum seekers and to German society. In twenty fifteen,
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Speaker 19: after Angela Merkel opened the floodgates to over a million
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Speaker 19: Serion refugees who are most of whom today are still unemployed.
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Speaker 19: You know, German society rose up, so it's not surprised
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Speaker 19: that you're going to see people from these backgrounds, many
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Speaker 19: of them unvetted, carrying out these lone rule for attacks,
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Speaker 19: which has become the hallmark of many countries in Europe,
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Speaker 19: including Germany, Sweden, France, the UK. It's not going to
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Speaker 19: stop until you know, radical action is taken.
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Speaker 2: Well, just to the pressure a battle this in Britain,
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Speaker 2: you've had three reigning asylum seekers appeared in court. I
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Speaker 2: think this last the two days three days ago charge
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Speaker 2: with taggeting journalists for an independent Iranian media out of
47:06
Speaker 2: it ahead of some serious violences played against them.
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Speaker 5: What's behind all that.
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Speaker 19: Well, the real controversy is apparently one of those Iranian
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Speaker 19: terror suspects actually came across on the small boats from
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Speaker 19: the Channel. So not only are we seeing the frustration
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Speaker 19: of people coming across the channel, mainly unvetted men, we're
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Speaker 19: now seeing that some of them have links to terrorism.
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Speaker 19: I mean, it only takes one for people to realize
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Speaker 19: how broken the system is. The fact that we're in
47:31
Speaker 19: a situation where we're taking winter fuel payments away from pensioners,
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Speaker 19: but we're happy to accommodate asylum seekers, give them a
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Speaker 19: stipend and put them in housing to the tunes of
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Speaker 19: billions of pounds a year of the British taxpayer expense.
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Speaker 19: Just shows that we've lost complete control.
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Speaker 5: Of the system.
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Speaker 19: I mean, it's egregious, really, there's no other word for it.
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Speaker 2: And yet it seems that your Prime Minister is now
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Speaker 2: taking a hard line, or don't you believe it.
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Speaker 19: He's not taking a hard line that man. The only
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Speaker 19: conviction that man has is the belief that he thinks
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Speaker 19: he should be in charge.
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Speaker 10: That's it.
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Speaker 19: If he thinks it's losing him vertus, he's happy to
48:04
Speaker 19: do it one eighty, which is quite dangerous actually because
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Speaker 19: it just means that he's only going to do what
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Speaker 19: he thinks is politically expedient for him at the time,
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Speaker 19: and you know, to hold weld what happens in the
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Speaker 19: British public in the process.
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Speaker 2: Ester Craik, always great to talk to you. Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much, really appreciate it. I just think immigration has
48:23
Speaker 2: been one of those issues that the mainstream parties have
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Speaker 2: shied away from, fearing to be racist. That if you
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Speaker 2: don't address a serious, real issue that is really bothering people.
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Speaker 2: You leave the room open, the door open, for extremists
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Speaker 2: to do it for you. And you are seeing that
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Speaker 2: in some other places. Heaven forbid, it should happen here,
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Speaker 2: So get serious. That's it from me, coming up now,
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Speaker 2: Sherry Maxon, good Night,