Latest / Reality with The King / A LAP-se In Friendships: RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia, & Blue
Transcript
- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well.
- 0:36Speaker 2: In honor of Kelly Ferrell, I'm wearing a T shirt
- 0:39Speaker 2: rain Drip because I'm also on a budget, so we
- 0:45Speaker 2: need to get into that. Okay, I really enjoyed this scene.
- 0:54Speaker 2: And this scene is Kelly meeting with her not her.
- 0:59Speaker 2: I thought it was her hers, but clearly based on
- 1:01Speaker 2: the language in the scene, she was meeting with a
- 1:06Speaker 2: financial advisor, which to me.
- 1:09Speaker 3: No shade. Kelly never met that man until she put
- 1:12Speaker 3: a mic on no.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Shade and guess what, it's fine. So she met with
- 1:19Speaker 2: this financial advisor, and in this scene we are learning
- 1:23Speaker 2: more about Kelly's finances. Kelly is saying that her Nana's
- 1:29Speaker 2: chicken and waffles McDonald's location makes seventy five thousand a month.
- 1:35Speaker 2: She's saying her second location in Sandy Springs pulls in fifteen.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Thousand a month.
- 1:41Speaker 2: That is a total of ninety thousand dollars just in
- 1:45Speaker 2: terms of what each restaurant is making.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Right, that doesn't mean she pockets all of that.
- 1:50Speaker 2: And if you know anything about owning a business, you
- 1:53Speaker 2: ask the CEO.
- 1:54Speaker 3: You pay yourself a salary.
- 1:56Speaker 2: So Raindrops is not like Kelly is pocketing the ninety thousand.
- 2:01Speaker 2: What we did learn is her monthly expensive Claudia Blue
- 2:05Speaker 2: and dustn't includes a two thousand dollars a month range drover,
- 2:10Speaker 2: six hundred dollars a month for car insurance. Her beauty
- 2:15Speaker 2: budget is around twenty five hundred, her hair budget is
- 2:19Speaker 2: around three thousand a month, and her clothes is roughly
- 2:22Speaker 2: around eighty five hundred a month, with a total of
- 2:25Speaker 2: twenty two thousand dollars a month. Kelly said that she
- 2:30Speaker 2: is used to being a housewife where she did not
- 2:33Speaker 2: know how to paste some sails like her car notes.
- 2:36Speaker 3: And before I get to you guys, I just want
- 2:38Speaker 3: to start.
- 2:38Speaker 2: By saying this, and this is why I was mad
- 2:42Speaker 2: at doctor Wendy, who I love in real life.
- 2:45Speaker 3: I don't like when you girls play dumb.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Not saying you were playing dumb, but you can't be
- 2:52Speaker 2: educated owning businesses and let all of your finances be
- 2:56Speaker 2: at the hands of your husband. And I'm not saying
- 2:59Speaker 2: you should pay anything right, however, if you are married
- 3:03Speaker 2: to this man, you should know.
- 3:05Speaker 3: How much your mortgage is.
- 3:07Speaker 2: You should you should be aware about your finances, and
- 3:10Speaker 2: if he wants to do that, that's great, but you
- 3:12Speaker 2: should never put yourself in a situation to where if
- 3:16Speaker 2: he decides to leave you, all those things go away.
- 3:19Speaker 2: And I think it is such a wake up call
- 3:24Speaker 2: for women like marry the rich Guy. I gotta be
- 3:27Speaker 2: honest with you as I'm watching the Polygamist married.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Who's a Capricorn Blue Marrying.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Reliever Rising.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Episode Marrying the Rich Guy, I would love to hear
- 3:46Speaker 2: from you about this first.
- 3:48Speaker 3: It's not the flex y'all think it is.
- 3:50Speaker 2: It's just I don't know any woman in my personal
- 3:54Speaker 2: life that's happy or or or or was happy. I
- 3:59Speaker 2: think when you look at your clause and all those things,
- 4:01Speaker 2: that's great. But ladies, there are rich men who are
- 4:05Speaker 2: good people. There's rich men out there who believe in God,
- 4:10Speaker 2: who have the ability to be a family man who
- 4:16Speaker 2: actually respect women, who respect their women's gay friends, who
- 4:22Speaker 2: actually want to see.
- 4:23Speaker 3: You do well in life. Right.
- 4:26Speaker 2: And the thing with Kelly, I applaud her for being
- 4:29Speaker 2: so transparent. This wasn't a scene where she looked the
- 4:32Speaker 2: best in terms of understanding more about her. But I
- 4:35Speaker 2: love the fact that she traded in the embarrassment for
- 4:39Speaker 2: us understanding more about what she was going through. And
- 4:42Speaker 2: even when she was looking at the house or her
- 4:43Speaker 2: realtor is like the elevators, all those things. I just think, Ladies,
- 4:48Speaker 2: I just don't know any rich woman, I'm sorry, a
- 4:50Speaker 2: woman who's married to a rich man that is truly happy.
- 4:54Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's smoking mirrors. But Claudia, again,
- 4:58Speaker 2: you have been in the business for every long time.
- 5:00Speaker 2: You dated rich men too, and your friends have. Do
- 5:06Speaker 2: you think that there is this sort of wake up
- 5:08Speaker 2: call that women need to have that a merriga rich
- 5:11Speaker 2: man where you don't understand where your your bills are
- 5:16Speaker 2: being paid.
- 5:17Speaker 3: It's not the flex that your mother raised you to think.
- 5:20Speaker 4: It is.
- 5:22Speaker 5: Our mothers were were encouraging that back when women really
- 5:27Speaker 5: were just getting the ability to have credit cards and
- 5:29Speaker 5: get takeout mortgages.
- 5:30Speaker 6: So I understand why they would do that.
- 5:32Speaker 5: But now almost every woman that I know, almost every
- 5:35Speaker 5: woman that I know that is with the man that has.
- 5:37Speaker 7: Bred, just accepts that the cheating is part of it, and.
- 5:40Speaker 5: The no time and they're there, they have things, so
- 5:45Speaker 5: the lot of time, they wear their their happiness, the
- 5:48Speaker 5: things they want you to think they're happy on their
- 5:50Speaker 5: on their sleeve there there on their body. They're the jewelry,
- 5:53Speaker 5: the this, the that, then the other. The people that
- 5:55Speaker 5: I know are the happiest are married to people that
- 5:57Speaker 5: are good people and hard working people. Maybe they're not multimillionaires,
- 6:01Speaker 5: but they're like blue collar or upper.
- 6:04Speaker 7: You know, middle class whatever.
- 6:06Speaker 5: Of course it's we're being very gentle, but I mean,
- 6:08Speaker 5: every rich guy that I've ever talked to has been
- 6:11Speaker 5: just kind of thinks that they have a different set
- 6:13Speaker 5: of rules if they go by. Of course, you'll find
- 6:15Speaker 5: a unicorn every now and then, but for the most part,
- 6:18Speaker 5: it comes with a certain level of narcissism, a certain
- 6:21Speaker 5: level of being unavailable, a certain level of thinking that
- 6:26Speaker 5: the rules won't apply to them, that of course I
- 6:28Speaker 5: should be able to have other women. I'm rich, I'm successful,
- 6:30Speaker 5: and they don't think the same rules apply for a
- 6:32Speaker 5: successful woman, like somehow we're supposed to be able to
- 6:35Speaker 5: remain traditional and all that. So, yeah, a lot of
- 6:39Speaker 5: women I know that are married to what except I
- 6:42Speaker 5: got to keep going back to one of my favorite couples,
- 6:43Speaker 5: Rebecca and David Justice.
- 6:45Speaker 7: You know, you've married at halle Berry.
- 6:47Speaker 5: They've been married for twenty some years under the radar,
- 6:49Speaker 5: but they they're very happy and they don't but they're
- 6:52Speaker 5: also away from the Hollywood stuff now. But other than that,
- 6:55Speaker 5: I know a lot of people that are just kind
- 6:56Speaker 5: of just accept that being cheated on this way, it's
- 6:59Speaker 5: part of it.
- 7:00Speaker 3: And do you think what are your thoughts on Kelly
- 7:03Speaker 3: and her expenses?
- 7:04Speaker 2: Do you think do you think Kelly has learned a
- 7:08Speaker 2: lesson or do you think unfortunately with her new boyfriend
- 7:12Speaker 2: buying Sunny five thousand dollars worth of veneers that she
- 7:18Speaker 2: is still not getting it because Sunny five thousand dollars,
- 7:22Speaker 2: I would have taken that and bought some real.
- 7:24Speaker 5: Estate me if that was even an options, you know
- 7:27Speaker 5: what I mean, Maybe he wasn't the type of just
- 7:28Speaker 5: give her the money. Like a lot of times people
- 7:30Speaker 5: will do something for you, but they're never going to
- 7:32Speaker 5: give you money where you can like bounce with it, right,
- 7:34Speaker 5: so let me just do things for you. There was
- 7:36Speaker 5: a girl, a really popular video model. Her name is
- 7:38Speaker 5: Sulen Madeira. She was in Chris Brown videos all kind
- 7:41Speaker 5: of stuff, and like there was a really wealthy man
- 7:44Speaker 5: that would like really lace her with things, but.
- 7:47Speaker 7: Never the money.
- 7:47Speaker 5: So you can leave, right And I know I said
- 7:51Speaker 5: her name, but she's talked about it. You don't really
- 7:53Speaker 5: have the freedom to leave. So yeah, you got the teeth,
- 7:55Speaker 5: you get the bags, you get the trips, but you're
- 7:57Speaker 5: not really getting that deposit in your account. That's when
- 8:00Speaker 5: you have true freedom. I do think she's gonna get it.
- 8:03Speaker 5: I do think that. I do applaud the being honest.
- 8:09Speaker 5: Like being in Atlanta and being on the housewives shows,
- 8:12Speaker 5: it's odd everyone.
- 8:14Speaker 7: It's pressure. There's immense pressure to live that life.
- 8:17Speaker 5: I never had red bottoms and so I did Housewives right,
- 8:19Speaker 5: like instantly, you girl, you can't be going on them,
- 8:22Speaker 5: Jessica Simpsons, you have to have red bottoms.
- 8:24Speaker 4: You have I'm like, why why.
- 8:26Speaker 7: Can't I wear my al though?
- 8:27Speaker 4: Girl? You house.
- 8:30Speaker 7: Like Jesic Hills.
- 8:31Speaker 5: They are cute, and so I just didn't expect that Yeah,
- 8:34Speaker 5: I'm very honest, right, and j Lo too. She got
- 8:37Speaker 5: some key shoes, Okay, y'all if we keep it in a
- 8:39Speaker 5: buck all my red bottom.
- 8:44Speaker 7: And it wasn't until uh do meet.
- 8:46Speaker 6: You Solace, that was like, girl, my thousand dollars on.
- 8:50Speaker 7: GHOS store, go get you some shoes. She's both being
- 8:51Speaker 7: I'm like.
- 8:52Speaker 6: God, damn it, trust me.
- 8:57Speaker 7: If I was never on that show, I.
- 8:59Speaker 5: Would still be in just the Simpsons and j Loves Okay,
- 9:01Speaker 5: I'm just letting you know.
- 9:02Speaker 7: Right now for drills and all those Carlos.
- 9:07Speaker 5: So anyway, I think she's gonna she's like she got
- 9:11Speaker 5: one for like she's one. The vulnerable thing is what's
- 9:13Speaker 5: gonna make us like her and appreciate her. But she's
- 9:15Speaker 5: also in Atlanta, where it's so run by the bag.
- 9:19Speaker 5: Everyone has the same channel bag, the same bbl, the
- 9:22Speaker 5: same light bulb, the same weave like everyone.
- 9:25Speaker 6: There's not a lot of individuality.
- 9:26Speaker 5: Like it's like status things you've got to have out there,
- 9:28Speaker 5: and it's gonna be hard, but it is a good
- 9:31Speaker 5: step in the right direction showing us I think I
- 9:33Speaker 5: do like this.
- 9:34Speaker 2: And I want to say this, by the way, so guys,
- 9:36Speaker 2: I know I love all the girls. When I talk
- 9:40Speaker 2: about my female friends, I'm not talking about reality stars.
- 9:43Speaker 2: I want you all to know that. So because I
- 9:46Speaker 2: saw somebody say it should me and I happy. I
- 9:48Speaker 2: don't want when I say my friends, these are people
- 9:51Speaker 2: I see regularly in my life out side of work.
- 9:54Speaker 3: So I'm not talking about a housewife a reality star. Nothing.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Go ahead, dustin your thought Kelly.
- 10:01Speaker 2: If Kelly getting it or do you feel like based
- 10:05Speaker 2: on the scene that she has some more work.
- 10:08Speaker 8: To do, Shout out to Kelly, because Kelly is giving
- 10:12Speaker 8: us a very honest portrayal of some shit that's probably
- 10:15Speaker 8: real fucked up for her to deal with, and I
- 10:17Speaker 8: think she's handled it in a very respectable way. This
- 10:20Speaker 8: is a reality show, Carlos. You always say we follow
- 10:23Speaker 8: the reality. This is what's going on. Some of the
- 10:25Speaker 8: reality may be dramatized to make it more exciting for television,
- 10:30Speaker 8: you know.
- 10:30Speaker 9: What I'm saying.
- 10:31Speaker 8: Like that conversation with the financial planner where she was
- 10:33Speaker 8: talking about the lashes and shit.
- 10:35Speaker 9: You know, Kelly's making good TV, but at the end
- 10:37Speaker 9: of the day.
- 10:38Speaker 8: She's facing something that I know the fans are giving
- 10:41Speaker 8: her a lot of scrutiny. You know what I'm saying about,
- 10:43Speaker 8: and placing her and her a lot of scrutiny over.
- 10:46Speaker 8: I think that it felt like throwback old school Real
- 10:50Speaker 8: Housewives sitting down in an office talking to this financial planner.
- 10:53Speaker 8: It took us back to Charay and the party planner,
- 10:56Speaker 8: who gonna check me boo. It's one of those scenes,
- 10:58Speaker 8: one of those one off scenes that is impactful to
- 11:01Speaker 8: her story and we don't forget it.
- 11:02Speaker 9: I like Kelly on this show.
- 11:04Speaker 8: I think that she's being honest, her being short tempered
- 11:07Speaker 8: in the moment because she going through something. You know
- 11:10Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like, that's what that is. I enjoyed
- 11:14Speaker 8: the scene. I think it's great. I also think that
- 11:16Speaker 8: rich niggas get a bad rap because every wealthy man
- 11:20Speaker 8: is not some sexual devian who wants to be deceitful
- 11:24Speaker 8: and cheat on women and dog they partner.
- 11:26Speaker 9: It's a lot of niggas.
- 11:31Speaker 8: It's a lot of wealthy men who actually would gravitate
- 11:34Speaker 8: toward a partner who is somebody that they can respect
- 11:38Speaker 8: and who will make them want to do right, and
- 11:40Speaker 8: who will who they want to provide a very beautiful
- 11:43Speaker 8: life for everybody is not on the file ass shit.
- 11:47Speaker 9: I think that when it comes to go ahead, I
- 11:51Speaker 9: think that when it.
- 11:52Speaker 8: Comes to entertainment, we often are We often see these
- 11:57Speaker 8: sensationalized relationships where the like the ladies on Real Housewives
- 12:02Speaker 8: of Rhode Island. How there are all those accusations against
- 12:05Speaker 8: ruler's husband and shit. We see those because those are
- 12:08Speaker 8: interesting fodder for like entertainment and television. But it's so
- 12:12Speaker 8: much quiet money. Every rich niggas, every rich man. Excuse me,
- 12:16Speaker 8: I'm trying. I'm trying, y'all. Okay, every mich rich man
- 12:19Speaker 8: is not a celebrity. There's so much quiet wealth in
- 12:23Speaker 8: the world. So many men who are just wealthy beyond
- 12:26Speaker 8: whatever and live a quiet life. They're not out in
- 12:28Speaker 8: the mixing in the lime, like they just living good,
- 12:31Speaker 8: taking care of their wives and shit. And those are
- 12:33Speaker 8: the women who are probably saying no to being on
- 12:35Speaker 8: these damn shows because.
- 12:37Speaker 2: All the time you see what I'm saying.
- 12:40Speaker 9: So I just want to clear that up because people
- 12:42Speaker 9: feel like.
- 12:43Speaker 8: If you date a rich man, you doomed for infidelity
- 12:46Speaker 8: and disrespect and all that shit. They don't even be
- 12:48Speaker 8: like that. I think you can live a very good life.
- 12:50Speaker 8: And I still think it's possible for a lot of people,
- 12:53Speaker 8: including Kelly and her relative Lady looked just like Vivian
- 12:58Speaker 8: from Real Housewives a Potomac. They friend Vivian, Karen and
- 13:02Speaker 8: their friend and refused to be on the damn show.
- 13:05Speaker 9: You know who I'm talking about, Carlos.
- 13:07Speaker 8: I thought that I thought that realtor was Vivian from Potoma.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Thank you, Luta Lusla your thoughts on Kelly the budget
- 13:17Speaker 2: be financial advisor and wake up call for women who
- 13:22Speaker 2: are living a.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Lifestyle to where they just aren't aware of what's going
- 13:27Speaker 3: on in their home.
- 13:30Speaker 10: This is a quote by Schaer where she says one
- 13:32Speaker 10: day she was talking to her mother and her mother
- 13:34Speaker 10: was like, share, you need to marry a rich man.
- 13:37Speaker 4: She said, Mama, I am a rich man.
- 13:39Speaker 5: Ooh, we're talking about Mary Richmond.
- 13:42Speaker 4: That's me.
- 13:43Speaker 10: And when I saw this scene, I one hundred percent
- 13:45Speaker 10: knew that Carlos King was going to.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Pick this scene. Because I knew.
- 13:49Speaker 10: I was like, I actually had all these numbers memorized.
- 13:51Speaker 10: I'm like, he's writing down these numbers as we speak.
- 13:53Speaker 4: I know he is. I see you, brother, I trust me.
- 13:58Speaker 4: I'm starting to see the brick.
- 14:01Speaker 10: I'm gonna be very transparent right now, Okay, because I
- 14:03Speaker 10: trust y'all and I love y'all, run I run a
- 14:07Speaker 10: small business. It shocked me that we make more than
- 14:10Speaker 10: Kelly does and we're digital right for a brick and mortar,
- 14:14Speaker 10: those numbers are actually shockingly low. So as a business owner,
- 14:20Speaker 10: I wasn't thinking, oh, seventy five K, fifteen K. I
- 14:22Speaker 10: was thinking, oh, baby, how are you doing this?
- 14:23Speaker 4: You have payroll, you have overhead, you have inventory, you
- 14:26Speaker 4: have insurance ADP.
- 14:27Speaker 10: Like I'm thinking as a business, but I'm like, these
- 14:29Speaker 10: numbers are like abysmally low. You can't function like this,
- 14:33Speaker 10: and you're still emotionally spending twenty two k. And also
- 14:36Speaker 10: my financial advice has pulled me aside last week, so
- 14:38Speaker 10: I got a little trigger.
- 14:39Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna hold you.
- 14:40Speaker 10: And she said, you shut down a couple months ago.
- 14:43Speaker 10: Why are you still spending like this? I said, excuse me?
- 14:45Speaker 10: Like I just got chin checked last week by my
- 14:47Speaker 10: financial my roe one. I was somebody I met on set,
- 14:50Speaker 10: and that conversation is an ego commerce. It's like it's
- 14:53Speaker 10: an emotional one. We don't talk about how emotional money is.
- 14:58Speaker 10: We know her heart is breaking up by her divorce.
- 15:00Speaker 10: But like when you are someone who's like, I'm running
- 15:03Speaker 10: a business. I'm proud of myself. It's a big part
- 15:05Speaker 10: of my identity. And then something happens where your business
- 15:08Speaker 10: have to be put on pause or in her case,
- 15:10Speaker 10: maybe stop all together or file bankruptcy. It is seen
- 15:13Speaker 10: as a failure in your mind unless you have a
- 15:15Speaker 10: conversation with yourself, like, hey, baby, maybe we can't take
- 15:18Speaker 10: a black car to target all the time, you know
- 15:19Speaker 10: what I mean. Like I've had to have those conversations
- 15:21Speaker 10: with myself. I'm not going bankrupt, thank God, I look
- 15:23Speaker 10: at God in my hon wood. But like it is
- 15:25Speaker 10: an emotional conversation and for her to share something that's
- 15:30Speaker 10: I'll just say this, my numbers are better than her,
- 15:31Speaker 10: and I still wouldn't be that vulnerable on camera for y'all.
- 15:34Speaker 10: So for me, I'm just like, she's braver than I thought.
- 15:38Speaker 10: She's way braver than I thought. And also too, it
- 15:41Speaker 10: probably shows me why Shamia being in her corner is
- 15:45Speaker 10: so impactful for her. Right now, your friend who is up,
- 15:48Speaker 10: rather than pitying you, is looking out for you, letting
- 15:51Speaker 10: you stay at her townhouse, being like like somebody you
- 15:53Speaker 10: can vent to helping you traverse through all these other
- 15:56Speaker 10: rich bitches with their big old houses when you're looking
- 15:58Speaker 10: for just a place to lay your head with your kids.
- 16:00Speaker 10: Like it made me understand why her and Shami are
- 16:02Speaker 10: reaching for each other. It humanized her. I loved it,
- 16:06Speaker 10: but I'm also now concerned for like girls, you okay?
- 16:10Speaker 10: My first thought was are you okay? Though, like show was.
- 16:12Speaker 5: Sad that number didn't include her rent or mortgage either.
- 16:15Speaker 6: That was glam in her car and that's it.
- 16:17Speaker 7: I was like, she didn't say anything about.
- 16:19Speaker 5: Her cell phone bill, a health insurance, so it's even less.
- 16:23Speaker 4: It's lean. It's so lean, y'all.
- 16:25Speaker 10: So for the people, the average person who hears seventy
- 16:27Speaker 10: five K, they're thinking, oh you rich, No, no, no.
- 16:30Speaker 4: Overhead, and that's fine.
- 16:31Speaker 2: I had to point out that, like you said earlier, Blue,
- 16:34Speaker 2: the thing is, that's that's the money the business is making.
- 16:38Speaker 2: You got to pay employees, you got to pay your
- 16:40Speaker 2: business taxes.
- 16:41Speaker 5: So her profit that was the whole company.
- 16:48Speaker 3: That's that's.
- 16:51Speaker 6: How can the one take in fifteen thousand?
- 16:54Speaker 3: Well that was and that's the reason.
- 17:01Speaker 2: And I'm only bringing this up because we're talking about
- 17:02Speaker 2: this and it's on TMZ. It wasn't featured on the
- 17:06Speaker 2: show yet, but that's why when TMZ recently revealed that
- 17:10Speaker 2: in Pinky's latest bankruptcy filing, she said, I make six
- 17:15Speaker 2: thousand a month, right, And what a smart person on
- 17:20Speaker 2: Twitter or threads outline was that's how much she pays
- 17:24Speaker 2: herself as.
- 17:25Speaker 3: The owner of the business. Right.
- 17:29Speaker 2: It is not She wasn't saying that's all I get
- 17:31Speaker 2: from my other whatever. But I think that's the biggest
- 17:35Speaker 2: thing in terms of the fifteen thousand a month location
- 17:39Speaker 2: is closed.
- 17:39Speaker 3: The thing is this. Claudia also brought.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Up something that I want to talk about too, and
- 17:44Speaker 2: this is the mystique of Atlanta. I love Atlanta. When
- 17:50Speaker 2: I was blessed to do the show in two thousand
- 17:52Speaker 2: and eight, Atlanta as a black person growing up in Detroit, Michigan,
- 17:58Speaker 2: Atlanta was my answer, there's wildest dreams.
- 18:01Speaker 3: It was in two thousand and eight.
- 18:02Speaker 2: I literally was like, you mean to tell me there's
- 18:05Speaker 2: rich black people who live behind the gates and this
- 18:07Speaker 2: is what they do.
- 18:08Speaker 3: I was influenced by it, and I was motivated by it.
- 18:12Speaker 2: But if I'm being very honest and transparent with you guys,
- 18:15Speaker 2: because this is a safe space.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Yea, Alli is right.
- 18:18Speaker 2: The moment you're in Atlanta, there is this weird.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Keeping up with the Joneses that does occur.
- 18:25Speaker 2: And you know, I started buying cars and I was like, listen,
- 18:31Speaker 2: I can afford it.
- 18:33Speaker 3: But it was less about that.
- 18:34Speaker 2: It was more about the fact that I became this
- 18:37Speaker 2: person that felt that I'm in Atlanta and I have
- 18:39Speaker 2: to have all these things, the big house and all
- 18:41Speaker 2: this other stuff. And I remember having all of these
- 18:44Speaker 2: materialistic things being in Atlanta being like, this shit makes
- 18:50Speaker 2: no sense to me. Why am I a single gay
- 18:52Speaker 2: man having a big house, paying for property taxes, landscaping, exterminator,
- 19:01Speaker 2: you know, all of these things where I'm like, why
- 19:04Speaker 2: don't I just live in a fucking like high rise
- 19:07Speaker 2: and mind my business? But there is something about Atlanta
- 19:11Speaker 2: that brings that out of you. And I do feel
- 19:13Speaker 2: bad for the women, especially because I do feel like
- 19:16Speaker 2: the women in Atlanta they it's this unspoken sorority to
- 19:22Speaker 2: where women are competing with each other, the bags, the
- 19:27Speaker 2: rich Africans, who you're dating, who's paying for all of
- 19:31Speaker 2: these things. That is a real thing that happens to
- 19:36Speaker 2: Atlanta women. And that's why for me, it's sad that,
- 19:39Speaker 2: like Dustin said, there are a lot of quiet, wealthy
- 19:42Speaker 2: people in Atlanta, and I wanted all of them to
- 19:46Speaker 2: do the show, and they all said to me, I
- 19:49Speaker 2: will never do Atlanta Housewives.
- 19:50Speaker 3: Are you fucking kidding me?
- 19:52Speaker 7: You don't see those people, so you're not gonna meet
- 19:53Speaker 7: those people. Talk to me.
- 19:54Speaker 6: It's very hard to meet the less you say, especially
- 19:56Speaker 6: you're in the social circles.
- 19:57Speaker 7: Atlanta.
- 20:00Speaker 5: It's a great place for an ego boost too. If
- 20:03Speaker 5: you did one scene in a TV show twenty two
- 20:06Speaker 5: years ago and you go to the mall, uh, you
- 20:10Speaker 5: will be stopped and some will recognize you, and it's
- 20:12Speaker 5: great for your ego. But then they're also gonna clock
- 20:14Speaker 5: what you got on and it is very they are.
- 20:16Speaker 5: They gonna clock it on what you got into, and
- 20:18Speaker 5: it's very much you are. That is your social currency
- 20:21Speaker 5: out there, and they really really care. But it's very materialistic.
- 20:24Speaker 5: No one leaves the house like That's why I was
- 20:26Speaker 5: so fish out of water out there.
- 20:28Speaker 7: Like I don't wear a lash.
- 20:29Speaker 5: Yeares to go to gym like three prayers, a lashes
- 20:32Speaker 5: and contoured I'm not wearing a freaking waist training to
- 20:34Speaker 5: go to get groceries like it was like that everywhere,
- 20:38Speaker 5: like they really, Yes, it was a lot.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Yeah, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
- 20:46Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
- 20:49Speaker 2: My point is I agree with all three of you guys.
- 20:51Speaker 2: That's why I was happy that Kelly was honest about it,
- 20:55Speaker 2: because once again, that's why we love these shows.
- 20:58Speaker 3: And that's why I will always say Kelly is.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Amazing for the show, and you should keep her peach
- 21:03Speaker 2: because some of these girls, and this is no shade,
- 21:06Speaker 2: some of them girls are going through that and they
- 21:08Speaker 2: will never let her know.
- 21:09Speaker 3: And I'll leave it at that. Yeah, raise, please, my god,
- 21:13Speaker 3: I want it.
- 21:14Speaker 4: I don't want Andy to give her a raise, like
- 21:16Speaker 4: I'm like them number scared me.
- 21:19Speaker 7: That first year contract. Be not nice boy, And I
- 21:22Speaker 7: don't care.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Though it's her second year and she's climbing trees and
- 21:24Speaker 4: trying to hit people.
- 21:25Speaker 6: Like back in the day, they used to double it
- 21:27Speaker 6: and they don't do it anymore.
- 21:29Speaker 7: You like, whatever you negotia your first year, your second year,
- 21:31Speaker 7: you know.
- 21:31Speaker 5: You're gonna get doubled and double it like it was
- 21:33Speaker 5: used to go up fast and now they're like, oh
- 21:35Speaker 5: five percent.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Raise five percent.
- 21:37Speaker 7: Oh yeah, nah, well things are different. Now let me
- 21:39Speaker 7: just say that.
- 21:40Speaker 10: I won't say five, but I understand why she's clocked
- 21:42Speaker 10: in so much this season. I'm just that seemed made
- 21:44Speaker 10: me realize why she's been so clocked in this season.
- 21:47Speaker 3: Yeah, and I applaud you. If you're gonna sign up
- 21:50Speaker 3: to do a job.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Do your job, well, get your bonuses. And you're Raisis
- 21:55Speaker 2: and Kelly, and I'll keep saying it. Kelly is great
- 21:59Speaker 2: for this show and this scene solidify to meet her peach.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Speaking of Atlanta culture, I do want to get into
- 22:06Speaker 2: very quickly Cay Michelle's scene.
- 22:08Speaker 3: She remember her doctor.
- 22:11Speaker 2: As we all know, Ca Michelle unfortunately have butt implants
- 22:15Speaker 2: back in the day and has for years been suffering
- 22:19Speaker 2: through tons of complications in regard to that surgery. She's
- 22:24Speaker 2: meeting with her doctor and her doctor is advising her
- 22:28Speaker 2: please do not go with implants again. But he did
- 22:31Speaker 2: recommend this other type of surgery. But got the name
- 22:36Speaker 2: of it if you guys can remember it. The only
- 22:39Speaker 2: thing I remember is he mentioned something about human fat
- 22:43Speaker 2: being injected versus silicone.
- 22:46Speaker 3: And for me, this as.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Cay Michelle's friend, as somebody who did my killer body
- 22:51Speaker 2: with her lifetime big ass, this is out of style
- 22:55Speaker 2: and praise the Lord Jesus right, fake big asses. I'll
- 22:59Speaker 2: say that cay Michelle body to me as somebody who
- 23:03Speaker 2: knows her and seeing her personally is just fine. And
- 23:06Speaker 2: I did feel my opinion, I did feel it was
- 23:10Speaker 2: kind of not the best advice for the doctor to
- 23:14Speaker 2: tell her to get anything.
- 23:15Speaker 3: I think, don't do nothing.
- 23:16Speaker 2: I think, get rid of all the silicone and embrace
- 23:20Speaker 2: your natural. But Cay Michelle has a beautiful face, she
- 23:27Speaker 2: has everything going for herself, and you're married, and I
- 23:31Speaker 2: just don't think having anything, whether it's a natural fat
- 23:34Speaker 2: or silicone, she needs to get ever again in Life's.
- 23:39Speaker 3: I was shocked by that moment. Blue, what do you
- 23:43Speaker 3: think about that whole thing?
- 23:45Speaker 10: I was disappointed because when Ky Michelle has been talking
- 23:47Speaker 10: for the last ten years or so about how she's
- 23:50Speaker 10: considered the chronic pain pain shit, she's gonna always have
- 23:52Speaker 10: someloicone soul them through her bloodstream.
- 23:54Speaker 4: Those are serious things. All the surgeries are really serious.
- 23:57Speaker 4: Maybe I'm silly.
- 23:58Speaker 10: Up until last night's episode, I assume that means meant
- 24:01Speaker 10: she was gonna stop. It never occurred to me that
- 24:04Speaker 10: we spent five years hearing these horror stories and that
- 24:07Speaker 10: she still want to get more stuff done. So I
- 24:09Speaker 10: was like, bro, I had to rewind it to make
- 24:11Speaker 10: sure I heard it correctly, Like all thought we were done, baby,
- 24:13Speaker 10: what are you doing?
- 24:14Speaker 4: So the fact that she's and then you have to
- 24:16Speaker 4: think about this for those who don't know.
- 24:18Speaker 10: Me and Carlos used to do Kardashian recaps back in
- 24:21Speaker 10: the day. The only three black people who watched the Kardasashian.
- 24:25Speaker 3: Stay till season coming up, oh Lloyd, all.
- 24:29Speaker 10: Four of us watching the Kardashians, and as Kardashian watcher,
- 24:34Speaker 10: they actually when they were popular, they popularized the BBL.
- 24:38Speaker 10: When the BBL became too popular and no longer was
- 24:40Speaker 10: a status symbol, because we know status symbols are not
- 24:42Speaker 10: just about the symbol or even the price, it's about
- 24:44Speaker 10: being exclusive. So the minute something becomes too common and
- 24:47Speaker 10: it's ghost, right, So what the Kardashians did, it's when
- 24:50Speaker 10: a nurse could spend three K and take a day
- 24:53Speaker 10: off and be an rin to get a butt lift
- 24:54Speaker 10: in Miami, They're like, oh, this is ghost now the
- 24:56Speaker 10: everyday woman can do it. They transferred to what they
- 24:59Speaker 10: call the the Country Cruck Club bbls, which are the
- 25:02Speaker 10: more smaller, higher like Instagram Fitness Model bbls. When kay
- 25:08Speaker 10: Michelle was talking, she requested the new trend of butt
- 25:13Speaker 10: and I was like, wait, you're still chasing the trends
- 25:15Speaker 10: after everything that happened to you with the original bbl
- 25:18Speaker 10: So I'm shocked that kay Michelle is still trying to
- 25:20Speaker 10: be trendy with her body after all that she's been through.
- 25:23Speaker 10: That makes me sad for her. There's something unhealed in
- 25:27Speaker 10: her that's revealing itself this season that none of us thought.
- 25:29Speaker 10: We all thought she was gonna be fun and effervescent
- 25:31Speaker 10: and have great singers and you know, Kiki and befriends
- 25:34Speaker 10: with Porsche and do whatever. I don't think any of
- 25:36Speaker 10: us thought we were just gonna get a glimpse into
- 25:37Speaker 10: how like unhealed she might be about her stuff. And
- 25:41Speaker 10: even when they were playing with the game with Angela
- 25:43Speaker 10: the basketball tournament, they were making jokes about how they
- 25:47Speaker 10: think she's shadow boxing right, like she's making up.
- 25:50Speaker 4: Fake ops in her head.
- 25:51Speaker 10: Her being unwell is starting to become a joke with
- 25:54Speaker 10: the other ladies, and they're joking to her face. Now
- 25:58Speaker 10: I think she's going down sad in the way that
- 25:59Speaker 10: I didn't see, and the butt thing showed me that
- 26:02Speaker 10: it's deeper than the show. I would like her to
- 26:04Speaker 10: come back because I think this.
- 26:05Speaker 4: Cast is great. They need some tweaks, but I think
- 26:07Speaker 4: it's great.
- 26:08Speaker 10: But Kay Michelle needs to have a come to Jesus
- 26:11Speaker 10: moment if she comes back next season. I would love
- 26:13Speaker 10: for her to say I watched the season back and
- 26:15Speaker 10: realize maybe maybe I miscalculated.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Things and be refreshed.
- 26:19Speaker 10: Because her still wanting surgery of any sort after all
- 26:22Speaker 10: this time makes me realize she hasn't learned anything.
- 26:26Speaker 5: Claudia, I have never been here for these bbls and
- 26:32Speaker 5: BBL community.
- 26:33Speaker 7: You guys can be mad at me if you want.
- 26:35Speaker 5: I just think you're enough without them and getting a
- 26:38Speaker 5: BBL because you want a certain kind of guy's attention
- 26:41Speaker 5: or for another woman to like outdo her ass to me,
- 26:44Speaker 5: it's crazy, ladies, Like I am a fan of the
- 26:48Speaker 5: nineties beauty, the nineties fine, it was really not about that,
- 26:51Speaker 5: like your ass. If you get attention because of your
- 26:55Speaker 5: ass over your face, your mind, your heart, I feel
- 26:58Speaker 5: sorry for you, I really really do.
- 27:01Speaker 7: And be mad. I don't really care.
- 27:03Speaker 5: What I'm saying is you are enough with your face,
- 27:06Speaker 5: You're enough with your personality. I don't want a guy
- 27:09Speaker 5: that wants me because I got a fat ass. And
- 27:11Speaker 5: they had a thing that was very popular about ten
- 27:14Speaker 5: years ago called the squat challenge. You start with fifty
- 27:17Speaker 5: and then the next day you go to fifty five,
- 27:19Speaker 5: then you go to sixty. You take the third day off.
- 27:21Speaker 5: Within eighteen days, you will see a difference.
- 27:24Speaker 4: But nobody will I try that.
- 27:27Speaker 7: No, it's so hard. Like I'm doing and I had
- 27:31Speaker 7: such results, and like nobody wants to do any work.
- 27:35Speaker 5: They just want overnight results, overnight fame, overnight ass Ask
- 27:39Speaker 5: these real ones that are going to stay up built
- 27:41Speaker 5: in the gym. That's why people that ran track have
- 27:43Speaker 5: good bodies for the rest of their lives. Seriously, Ky Michelle,
- 27:46Speaker 5: you can sing, you you you are talented, You're dramatic
- 27:50Speaker 5: your TV like, you can do all these things.
- 27:53Speaker 7: Why is an ass so important to you?
- 27:56Speaker 6: And you're married at this point.
- 27:57Speaker 5: It's like, I hate that now unless you got a
- 28:02Speaker 5: cave in butter or something happened, I don't know.
- 28:04Speaker 7: I just I get I get down.
- 28:06Speaker 5: I see black women inject all these things into their
- 28:09Speaker 5: ass and they put that as a priority. Like you
- 28:12Speaker 5: over here with bad teeth, not her, but people and
- 28:15Speaker 5: your ass is like up high. But you got a
- 28:17Speaker 5: missing side too, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
- 28:19Speaker 5: don't get that.
- 28:20Speaker 7: I don't get it.
- 28:22Speaker 9: Well, some people need.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Missing side tooth community. They caught astray at the end there, Claudia, together,
- 28:31Speaker 4: you made me sorry.
- 28:33Speaker 3: You have to go ahead.
- 28:34Speaker 9: Some people need bbls.
- 28:35Speaker 8: Some of y'all walking around here looking like an iron board,
- 28:41Speaker 8: and I didn't seen them where it's been to improve me.
- 28:44Speaker 8: Shout out to y'all. Everybody don't need him. And Claudia
- 28:47Speaker 8: is right, some people have going overboard. But my thing
- 28:49Speaker 8: is this right, like the body stuff. When it comes
- 28:53Speaker 8: to like body work or whatever, y'all know me, I
- 28:56Speaker 8: believe that people have au timomy over their bodies.
- 28:59Speaker 9: Do whatever makes you happy.
- 29:01Speaker 8: That being said, when it comes to Kay Michelle, she
- 29:03Speaker 8: has expressed how the surgery had the opposite effect on
- 29:06Speaker 8: her and made her really really sad. So it actually
- 29:10Speaker 8: hurt my feelings. It kind of softened me up to
- 29:12Speaker 8: her when I watched her in this scene and the
- 29:13Speaker 8: doctor because I'm like, man, this girl is going through
- 29:17Speaker 8: a lot of trauma connected to this body work, and
- 29:19Speaker 8: she's been vocal about that for many, many years. So
- 29:22Speaker 8: I just hope that she finds like some peace when
- 29:25Speaker 8: it comes to that, whatever that looks like for her.
- 29:26Speaker 8: Maybe she do want to get another procedure, you know,
- 29:29Speaker 8: and that's.
- 29:29Speaker 9: What it would take.
- 29:30Speaker 8: I don't know, but it don't make seem like it
- 29:33Speaker 8: doesn't seem like the right choice to me. But that's
- 29:36Speaker 8: her motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying. Like, if
- 29:39Speaker 8: she wants to, she got the right to do whatever
- 29:41Speaker 8: she wants to do with her body. I just want
- 29:44Speaker 8: her to keep the body once she gets it, wherever
- 29:46Speaker 8: she gets it to, wherever she gets it, once she
- 29:49Speaker 8: gets it wherever she wants it to be. I want
- 29:51Speaker 8: her to keep the body in the scene on camera.
- 29:54Speaker 8: Stop leaving these scenes. Stop being not willing to participate
- 29:57Speaker 8: in the scene of what's.
- 29:58Speaker 9: Going on on the show.
- 30:00Speaker 8: She did it again this week when they were at
- 30:02Speaker 8: the Bailey Q of the Bailey Bowl and Fangi Bowl
- 30:05Speaker 8: right with shout out to Angela and Cynthia when Pinky
- 30:11Speaker 8: playing the game like she needed to shout out to
- 30:13Speaker 8: Pinky coll When Pinky was like, well, is everything okay
- 30:16Speaker 8: between you and Ka Shamia or between you and k
- 30:19Speaker 8: or whatever. Shmid was like, Yeah, what's up with us?
- 30:20Speaker 8: She looked at Atky Michelle ca Michelle again opted to
- 30:24Speaker 8: not participate and express herself and say what was really
- 30:28Speaker 8: on her mind in the scene. And here we go,
- 30:31Speaker 8: another vague moment, another start out moment of not participating
- 30:35Speaker 8: in the show.
- 30:35Speaker 9: Here we go again.
- 30:37Speaker 8: So I don't really care what her ass looks like.
- 30:39Speaker 8: I don't want her to be happy with her ass.
- 30:41Speaker 8: I just want her to keep her ass in the scene.
- 30:44Speaker 8: That's all I want her to do. Participate in the show.
- 30:47Speaker 8: If you're going to be a real house off of Atlanta,
- 30:49Speaker 8: which I think came Michelle has a lot of potential
- 30:51Speaker 8: to be a great one, you got to participate in
- 30:54Speaker 8: the scene. You can't just say I don't never mind nothing.
- 30:58Speaker 8: That doesn't work on this show. It's about having any pin,
- 31:01Speaker 8: it's about expressing yourself, it's about moving story forward, and
- 31:05Speaker 8: she has an obligation to do that. So I just
- 31:08Speaker 8: want that to clear up. I don't give a funk
- 31:10Speaker 8: about what she wants to do with her body.
- 31:12Speaker 9: That's on her.
- 31:15Speaker 5: I think that her priority is in the wrong place. Yeah,
- 31:20Speaker 5: it's the internal work that needs to be done, not
- 31:21Speaker 5: the external, and.
- 31:24Speaker 9: Said, it's the soul that needs the surgery.
- 31:26Speaker 4: Remember it pretty hurts immediately. Categories of taboo dusted. We
- 31:34Speaker 4: make so much money, we need.
- 31:37Speaker 9: To we need to gamble, We need to play against somebody,
- 31:39Speaker 9: take their money.
- 31:40Speaker 4: Why do you took me gambling once?
- 31:46Speaker 5: I'm on a break right now from that, I got
- 31:47Speaker 5: chilled until I get you know, I got to get
- 31:49Speaker 5: enough show, like three more shows. We able to handle
- 31:52Speaker 5: my gambled problem. Michelle, you already had a nice body
- 31:56Speaker 5: before all that. And yes, of course you can do
- 31:58Speaker 5: what you want, but when it comes to you have
- 32:00Speaker 5: to leave work and opportunities because you're leaving you having
- 32:03Speaker 5: infections and open wounds.
- 32:05Speaker 7: We don't want that for you.
- 32:06Speaker 4: We don't.
- 32:07Speaker 5: And the BBL is the most dangerous, the most risky
- 32:10Speaker 5: of all the plastic surgery procedures. That's the most dangerous one.
- 32:13Speaker 5: That's what doctors will tell you. And I just hope
- 32:16Speaker 5: that you see that. I think you looked great when
- 32:18Speaker 5: you took the stuff up as much of the stuff,
- 32:19Speaker 5: I thought you looked great. But again it matters what
- 32:22Speaker 5: she thinks. But you know, we can tell her all
- 32:24Speaker 5: day long, we think, but this morphia is real.
- 32:26Speaker 10: Clock, That's why I'm concerned, Like this body autonomy and
- 32:28Speaker 10: then there's morphia.
- 32:32Speaker 9: Level.
- 32:33Speaker 4: Yeah, this scene felt like this It was the first
- 32:35Speaker 4: time that I thought, oh, this is dys morphia.
- 32:37Speaker 7: Yeah, make me sad.
- 32:39Speaker 8: Maybe that's what I'm feeling in because I felt like
- 32:42Speaker 8: it was just a little bit This was one of
- 32:44Speaker 8: them scenes that takes things a step further than just
- 32:47Speaker 8: having funny commentary about the show.
- 32:50Speaker 4: Let me get the.
- 32:50Speaker 8: Body image issues and shit, and specifically in the case
- 32:55Speaker 8: that came to show, take out whatever your personal feelings
- 32:58Speaker 8: about her or her personality.
- 33:00Speaker 9: He is right.
- 33:01Speaker 8: But when you see that this lady has for years
- 33:05Speaker 8: been literally crying on television about how this has fucked
- 33:08Speaker 8: her up in the head and physically, so to see.
- 33:11Speaker 9: Her in the n be even entertaining it in that
- 33:14Speaker 9: doctor's office.
- 33:15Speaker 8: For me, I just was like, this is a sensitive
- 33:18Speaker 8: thing and this is more than just entertainment right now,
- 33:22Speaker 8: and people need to handle this with care. That's just
- 33:24Speaker 8: how I felt when I watched that particular scene. Fuck
- 33:27Speaker 8: the rest of it, but that part I was like,
- 33:29Speaker 8: this goes a.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Little further than just which is why I wanted to
- 33:32Speaker 2: say that somebody who does know her personally.
- 33:35Speaker 3: I looked at that and I felt sad.
- 33:36Speaker 2: And we did a Lifetime show called myr Killer Body,
- 33:39Speaker 2: and I just don't want her to do anything else
- 33:41Speaker 2: that could risk it. She did say, and wash what
- 33:43Speaker 2: happens live that Pedra introduced her to this new to
- 33:50Speaker 2: this doctor who does something along the lines of I
- 33:53Speaker 2: don't want to miss quote, but long story short, Faedra
- 33:56Speaker 2: introduced her to a doctor that can help her out,
- 33:59Speaker 2: and even Andy it was like.
- 34:00Speaker 3: You want to do it again? She's like, yeah, but
- 34:02Speaker 3: it's not still calls something else. He was like, all right, listen,
- 34:06Speaker 3: I don't think it's anything wrong with saying it. We
- 34:08Speaker 3: all love key Michelle, We're all rooting for you, and
- 34:11Speaker 3: we all know what difficulty this has been. Episode two
- 34:16Speaker 3: was her in the hospital leaving the awards for that.
- 34:21Speaker 3: So I think all of us are just saying that.
- 34:26Speaker 2: It may not be worth it anymore, and like Dustin
- 34:31Speaker 2: and Blue are saying too in terms of there could
- 34:33Speaker 2: be something deeper there.
- 34:34Speaker 3: We just don't know.
- 34:35Speaker 2: But I do hope that we get to hear more
- 34:38Speaker 2: of that story versus the obvious of I just want
- 34:44Speaker 2: it again because something deeper is happening there. Yeah, well,
- 34:50Speaker 2: I want to get to Angela at her scene with
- 34:52Speaker 2: her daughter. This scene with her daughter had to do
- 34:57Speaker 2: with the fact that she is a lesbian. She married
- 35:02Speaker 2: her friend who's another woman. Obviously they've been friends since
- 35:07Speaker 2: she was a teenager. Angela mentioned that she feels some
- 35:11Speaker 2: kind of way that she wasn't told about them getting married.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Angela is saying that her siblings believe that her wife
- 35:21Speaker 2: is just her best friend, as her brother was being
- 35:24Speaker 2: nosy coming down the staircase.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Solica, you know in the conversation. What was interesting about
- 35:30Speaker 3: this scene is this.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Her daughter said that Angela was not easy to talk
- 35:38Speaker 2: to and the moment she said that Angela Oakley wanted
- 35:43Speaker 2: to shut her down and not even talk about it.
- 35:47Speaker 3: And for me, it was in that moment that I felt, Hmmm.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Something deeper happened in y'all dynamic that I believe Angela
- 35:58Speaker 2: does not want the public to no because she obviously
- 36:02Speaker 2: has emerged as a fan favorite.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I love Angela, oh lease, she's great for the show.
- 36:06Speaker 2: I think the daughter feels like, if we're gonna keep
- 36:09Speaker 2: the rope in front of the cameras, let's keep it real,
- 36:13Speaker 2: and her daughter was sitting on ready to keep it real,
- 36:17Speaker 2: even when Angela said, you're entitled, and she goes.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Angela said you're entitled and spoiled, and she goes, what
- 36:27Speaker 3: I pay my on bills blah boom.
- 36:29Speaker 2: I feel like there is something deeper going on between
- 36:33Speaker 2: Angela and her child that Angela does not want to
- 36:37Speaker 2: come out. And I don't know what that is, but
- 36:39Speaker 2: I got the sense that Angela does not want to
- 36:41Speaker 2: have a conversation.
- 36:43Speaker 8: Okay, so oldest daughter number one, right, we all know
- 36:49Speaker 8: that there is a very story passed between every mother
- 36:52Speaker 8: and the eldest daughter. There's all sorts of books, studies,
- 36:56Speaker 8: think pieces, substats, all kind of shit written about this, right,
- 37:00Speaker 8: So that's number one, number two at the end of
- 37:04Speaker 8: the day. Even and I agree with you, I think
- 37:06Speaker 8: there is absolutely some more story there, and I respect
- 37:10Speaker 8: him trying to protect it. But what I definitely respect
- 37:13Speaker 8: it is the way that Angela is leading with love
- 37:15Speaker 8: when it comes.
- 37:15Speaker 9: To her daughter.
- 37:17Speaker 8: Flat out, and the daughter was sitting on Ready. But
- 37:21Speaker 8: it wasn't directed towards Angela. You know who it was
- 37:23Speaker 8: directed towards. Then people on Twitter who has a lot
- 37:27Speaker 8: of shit to say about that conversation between her and
- 37:29Speaker 8: her mama were kind of trying to like come at
- 37:32Speaker 8: Angela's neck. Amari, her daughter, cleared that shit up real
- 37:35Speaker 8: quick on Twitter. She said, hold on, me and my
- 37:37Speaker 8: mama loved the fuck out of each other. And what
- 37:40Speaker 8: you saw was not us fighting. You saw us talking
- 37:43Speaker 8: through work and working toward and understanding.
- 37:46Speaker 9: She she cleared that shit up very fast.
- 37:50Speaker 8: So the bond that Angela and her daughter Amari have
- 37:52Speaker 8: is a very real thing. Shout out to both of
- 37:55Speaker 8: them for being willing to share that shit on TV.
- 37:58Speaker 8: I believe Angela loves that a lot of her daughter
- 38:01Speaker 8: one hundred percent. It's not even a joke. I believe
- 38:04Speaker 8: that her daughter, or Maria is the oldest, saw a
- 38:06Speaker 8: lot of stuff. Saw Angela go through a lot of changes.
- 38:10Speaker 8: Y'all know how they go the whole Me and my
- 38:12Speaker 8: daughter kind of grew up a little bit together or whatever.
- 38:14Speaker 9: She saw a lot of changes, and so that's just
- 38:16Speaker 9: her POV. She loved her siblings.
- 38:18Speaker 8: As a gay person, I feel like she hands's handling
- 38:20Speaker 8: it well. She said, when it's time to have a
- 38:22Speaker 8: conversation with her younger siblings, who are kids, by the way,
- 38:27Speaker 8: and she don't even need to talk to them about
- 38:29Speaker 8: who the fuck her wife is.
- 38:31Speaker 9: That's her echo fucking kids. I was so dramatic because
- 38:37Speaker 9: I hate that. I hate that focused on that when
- 38:39Speaker 9: it comes to gay people.
- 38:40Speaker 8: What we're gonna say to the kids nothing, motherfucker their kids.
- 38:44Speaker 8: We're not gonna tell them anything. That's her, that's her friend.
- 38:47Speaker 8: That's all them kids need to fucking know. That was
- 38:50Speaker 8: pissing me off. But anyway, I like to see much
- 38:54Speaker 8: love to them.
- 38:55Speaker 3: No, much love to Angela. My love her daughter.
- 38:59Speaker 2: But buddy, before I get to the girls, I do
- 39:01Speaker 2: want to say this, and again, this is my own experience,
- 39:04Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to play on every gay person
- 39:07Speaker 2: that comes out. I'm going on record saying I do
- 39:11Speaker 2: not think Angela OPI's homophobic. I know that people the
- 39:14Speaker 2: comments are saying that. And again again, in all fairness,
- 39:18Speaker 2: you guys have every right to come to your own
- 39:20Speaker 2: conclusions when things aren't spelled out correctly. And that's why
- 39:24Speaker 2: as a producer, I always tell my cast is best
- 39:27Speaker 2: if you tell the truth fully in front of these cameras,
- 39:33Speaker 2: because if you don't, people are going to walk away.
- 39:35Speaker 3: Where the own device is.
- 39:36Speaker 2: I'm saying, Carlos King the first I don't believe Angela
- 39:39Speaker 2: OPI's homophobic at all. Now, what I will say if
- 39:41Speaker 2: I could be very honest right as somebody who was
- 39:45Speaker 2: the first gay I have. Y'all know I have nine
- 39:48Speaker 2: siblings as the first person, and I have a gay
- 39:51Speaker 2: brother he's younger. When I came out the closet, I
- 39:56Speaker 2: came out to my mother first, and Dustin is one
- 39:59Speaker 2: thousand percent my mother rest in heaven. She was like,
- 40:04Speaker 2: when are you going to tell your father? And I thought,
- 40:08Speaker 2: at twenty five years old, like I'm telling you? Can
- 40:12Speaker 2: I just start there like I don't want to.
- 40:15Speaker 4: I don't My.
- 40:16Speaker 2: Coming out story should not be on your timeline, respectfully,
- 40:20Speaker 2: and I know you mean well, but it should not
- 40:22Speaker 2: be your timeline. I didn't tell my father until he
- 40:25Speaker 2: saw me tell Oprah like ten years later. Oh my gosh,
- 40:28Speaker 2: I hat just to help girls on the story. Yes,
- 40:31Speaker 2: he found out me coming out on Oprah Winfrey when
- 40:35Speaker 2: I was doing her behind the scenes show and Oprah said,
- 40:39Speaker 2: are they any.
- 40:39Speaker 3: Gay people in the building.
- 40:40Speaker 2: I got a question and my producer said, walk in,
- 40:45Speaker 2: You're gonna gay person in the room, I'm like, all right,
- 40:48Speaker 2: and then Oprah was like, I have a question for you,
- 40:51Speaker 2: and it was it was airing, and I told my mom.
- 40:54Speaker 3: My mom said you have to tell your father and
- 40:58Speaker 3: I said, no, he'll find that on and he did.
- 41:01Speaker 3: But my point is deafine is right.
- 41:04Speaker 2: I think the mistake Angela's making is it is not
- 41:08Speaker 2: your job to tell your daughter when to tell her
- 41:12Speaker 2: siblings who are teenagers, that she married a woman, because
- 41:18Speaker 2: my question would be if she married a man, would
- 41:22Speaker 2: that even be a conversation that you would want her
- 41:24Speaker 2: to have or her siblings. And that's why I do
- 41:27Speaker 2: think that we have to be very careful when we're
- 41:32Speaker 2: trying to say, well, I'm cool with it.
- 41:35Speaker 3: And again I think Angelo's cool with it.
- 41:37Speaker 2: But as a gay person, I know what it feels
- 41:40Speaker 2: like to be told by a parent you need to
- 41:42Speaker 2: do this on my timeline, and it's not fair.
- 41:44Speaker 3: To that person.
- 41:45Speaker 5: I do think when someone when it's a gay person
- 41:48Speaker 5: involved like the outrage and not saying that she's giving
- 41:51Speaker 5: fake outrages like that, but it's always like what was
- 41:53Speaker 5: the kids think? Kids nowadays are so much more progressive
- 41:57Speaker 5: than their parents. I said something to my niece about
- 42:00Speaker 5: gayness right, And I loved how.
- 42:03Speaker 4: Open she was.
- 42:04Speaker 5: She's like, I don't know who i'man to marry man
- 42:07Speaker 5: or a woman, And I was like, look at that.
- 42:10Speaker 5: She was so open to everything. And I bet you
- 42:13Speaker 5: like not saying her parents, my brother and his wife,
- 42:16Speaker 5: but people that are that age be thinking, oh my god,
- 42:19Speaker 5: it's gonna be so traumatizing for these young kids to
- 42:22Speaker 5: know that their aunt or their older sisters.
- 42:25Speaker 3: In that way.
- 42:26Speaker 7: When all along go to any eighth, ninth and tenth
- 42:29Speaker 7: grade classroom.
- 42:30Speaker 5: Now they are so much more open and forgiving, not forgiving,
- 42:35Speaker 5: open and fair and love.
- 42:37Speaker 7: People for more for who they are.
- 42:39Speaker 5: There's less rules now, and I love that for the
- 42:41Speaker 5: youth nowadays, especially up in the Northeast and mass is
- 42:45Speaker 5: so progressive, such a healthy environment for kids to feel
- 42:50Speaker 5: like anything is possible.
- 42:51Speaker 6: It's not I don't have to be worried like that.
- 42:53Speaker 7: So sometimes you know, it's much ado about nothing. Of course,
- 42:55Speaker 7: you do have some parents that are homophobic.
- 42:57Speaker 5: I don't think Angela is, but I you know when
- 42:59Speaker 5: they I feel like when they when it's about a
- 43:01Speaker 5: gay person, it's so much about the sex. Okay, straight
- 43:04Speaker 5: people out here having sex at fourteen two. Okay, well, okay,
- 43:07Speaker 5: whatever you know.
- 43:08Speaker 4: So, I.
- 43:11Speaker 7: Don't think it's as big of a deal as Angela
- 43:13Speaker 7: may think it is.
- 43:17Speaker 10: I had a very different reaction to the whole scene.
- 43:20Speaker 10: I've received the scene entirely differently, and it's not like
- 43:24Speaker 10: I'm disagreeing.
- 43:25Speaker 4: I just received it differently for me.
- 43:29Speaker 10: Before I found out I was fan sexual. For a second,
- 43:31Speaker 10: I thought, you know how, sometimes you're like, where do
- 43:33Speaker 10: I plot under the rainbow? And my pan and my
- 43:36Speaker 10: bye and my gay, like, what's happening right? I don't
- 43:40Speaker 10: think we under the rainbow often talk about internalized shame
- 43:44Speaker 10: masquerading as discernment, and sometimes we're slow to share, not
- 43:50Speaker 10: because it's not a big deal, but because we haven't
- 43:52Speaker 10: made peace with it ourselves entirely, and there is shame
- 43:56Speaker 10: that we're working through that stops us from saying something
- 44:00Speaker 10: that could have been lighter because of us, not them.
- 44:03Speaker 10: I picked up some internalized shame in that young lady.
- 44:06Speaker 10: I'm not judging her, I'm just perceiving she's still working
- 44:09Speaker 10: through how she feels about it. And I also picked
- 44:13Speaker 10: up that Angela was being almost protective. I don't think
- 44:15Speaker 10: she was being judgmental I think she felt like her
- 44:18Speaker 10: daughter was acting knuck if you buck on the camera,
- 44:20Speaker 10: and she knew that she wouldn't be able to deal
- 44:22Speaker 10: with the outcome as much as she thought she could.
- 44:24Speaker 10: You have a friend who's trying to have a difficult conversation,
- 44:27Speaker 10: and you can tell they think they're ready because they're
- 44:29Speaker 10: they're restless, but they're not really really ready for the
- 44:31Speaker 10: outcome or the response. Angela, we always joke that she
- 44:34Speaker 10: seems like a seasoned housewife. I heard on the streets
- 44:37Speaker 10: Carlos that y'all want her for a seasons three through
- 44:39Speaker 10: nine of some of the streets have said that y'all
- 44:41Speaker 10: y'all been wanting her as someone who's season. She's thinking,
- 44:44Speaker 10: you think you want to have this moment, baby, I'm
- 44:46Speaker 10: not sure you're ready for the response.
- 44:47Speaker 3: To the moment.
- 44:48Speaker 4: So I thought Ida like a protective.
- 44:51Speaker 10: Mother saying no, baby, I don't think you're as ready
- 44:53Speaker 10: as you think you are. And though I do believe
- 44:56Speaker 10: her daughter is still working through internalized shame, I don't
- 44:59Speaker 10: think it's about don't rush me.
- 45:00Speaker 4: I think it's I'm not fully at peace with it yet.
- 45:02Speaker 10: And also, can I be honest as someone who's had
- 45:05Speaker 10: friends like that when you don't tell them. It's not
- 45:08Speaker 10: about don't rush me. You're making me complicit on the
- 45:11Speaker 10: lie because now I can't talk about your wife. I
- 45:13Speaker 10: have to pretend that's your homegirl. I'm complicit. These are
- 45:16Speaker 10: my kids.
- 45:16Speaker 4: If they ask me questions, I'm having to lie to
- 45:19Speaker 4: keep your secret.
- 45:20Speaker 10: The person who's complicit, because this is not like we
- 45:23Speaker 10: all live in different houses and your brothers and sisters
- 45:25Speaker 10: live in Massachusetts and I live in LA and you
- 45:27Speaker 10: live in New York and I don't want to rush
- 45:28Speaker 10: you mind your business.
- 45:29Speaker 4: These are children who are in my house, who.
- 45:32Speaker 10: Are engaging with you and your partner, and I'm having
- 45:35Speaker 10: to lie with you to pretend that's just your homegirl.
- 45:38Speaker 4: I'm complicit.
- 45:39Speaker 10: It's not stand offish like we're all in different homes.
- 45:41Speaker 10: And so I think Angela's probably thinking and she can
- 45:43Speaker 10: speak for herself when your brother and sister are like
- 45:46Speaker 10: to Claudia is form.
- 45:47Speaker 4: We're progressive. We can people, whatever how you doing, be
- 45:50Speaker 4: who you are. We're watching TikTok.
- 45:51Speaker 10: Everybody make light of gay stuff and they're like, wait,
- 45:53Speaker 10: is that some gay shit's happening? And they ask Angela,
- 45:56Speaker 10: and Angel's like I don't know, Chad, I just work here,
- 45:58Speaker 10: and she's like, can you just tell you? Like, I
- 46:00Speaker 10: don't know what to tell them, can you just tell.
- 46:02Speaker 4: Them for me?
- 46:03Speaker 2: If that was the case, I believe that, Angela, because
- 46:07Speaker 2: I actually agree with what.
- 46:08Speaker 3: You're saying as a as a another point of view.
- 46:12Speaker 2: But do you think if that was the case, Angela
- 46:14Speaker 2: would say, they're asking me, and that's that's.
- 46:19Speaker 3: The only thing that I'm curious about, Like I do.
- 46:22Speaker 4: I think she didn't want to have that conversation.
- 46:24Speaker 10: I think I think she was trying to nip it
- 46:25Speaker 10: because she was realizing from seeing how because communication is
- 46:29Speaker 10: ninety three percent now on verbal that girl was getting
- 46:31Speaker 10: visibly more emotional as they were talking.
- 46:34Speaker 4: A mother, and we all know whether it's a mother
- 46:36Speaker 4: or a good partner.
- 46:38Speaker 10: You could tell when somebody's stomach drops and their voice
- 46:41Speaker 10: gets shaken, like when we all know when Kenny's voice
- 46:42Speaker 10: got shaky.
- 46:43Speaker 4: She's about to get mad.
- 46:45Speaker 10: Her daughter's body started to feel activated, and as the mother,
- 46:47Speaker 10: she's like, let's just shut this down, Let's just shut
- 46:49Speaker 10: it down. I think Angela was trying to de escalate
- 46:51Speaker 10: something that she could tell her daughter physically was getting
- 46:54Speaker 10: emotional about She's like, I don't think I think this
- 46:56Speaker 10: is actually too much for us.
- 46:56Speaker 4: But let's stop.
- 46:58Speaker 2: Yes, because even as we get to the therapy scene
- 47:01Speaker 2: and this is no shade, I'm just outlying what I saw.
- 47:04Speaker 2: I thought the therapy scene was a wash. I didn't
- 47:07Speaker 2: learn anything new from it.
- 47:08Speaker 4: It was.
- 47:10Speaker 3: H Yeah, it was ninety seconds.
- 47:12Speaker 2: It could have been a episode on rabotv dot com
- 47:16Speaker 2: because for me, the one just the one thing that
- 47:21Speaker 2: I struggled with is and again, I'm a viewer. If
- 47:28Speaker 2: you're going to introduce a topic to me, I'm old school.
- 47:33Speaker 2: I do believe you have the you have the responsibility
- 47:38Speaker 2: to the audience to lay it out, like lay it
- 47:40Speaker 2: out there, and I agree with you. I think Angela,
- 47:44Speaker 2: who's a great mother, is obviously trying to protect her daughter.
- 47:48Speaker 2: But if that's the case, don't even bring up a subject.
- 47:50Speaker 2: Then I'd rather you pull I'll rather you pull up
- 47:52Speaker 2: the other girls in the show pool, which is, don't
- 47:54Speaker 2: give us nothing. I would rather not know anything about
- 47:59Speaker 2: your daughter's relationship ship then to get a piecemeal and
- 48:03Speaker 2: that therapy scene, I was like, this is some bullshit.
- 48:05Speaker 2: This scene is terrible, not terrible in the sense of
- 48:08Speaker 2: the actions, but in the sense of Lindsey Harbert telling
- 48:12Speaker 2: Andy in this three part reunion, I've learned.
- 48:18Speaker 10: Reality TV wants a resolution at someone. If you're gonna
- 48:21Speaker 10: dangle it in our faces, we need to give a carrot.
- 48:23Speaker 10: They were dangling that carry and we never got to
- 48:25Speaker 10: bite it.
- 48:25Speaker 4: And it was unsatisfied as a viewer, because it's.
- 48:28Speaker 5: A conversation if you're really protecting of it, and it's
- 48:31Speaker 5: not comfortable like there was many I mean, the girl
- 48:34Speaker 5: had a green screen, she had a confessional, So yeah,
- 48:38Speaker 5: I missed me with not ready to talk about it.
- 48:40Speaker 7: If you're gonna go do a confessional like that should
- 48:42Speaker 7: be mom.
- 48:43Speaker 6: I'm not going on TV and doing anything about this.
- 48:46Speaker 5: Why would you even introduce that to the Real Housewives
- 48:49Speaker 5: of Atlanta, one of most popular reality of all time?
- 48:53Speaker 7: Like why would you even do that?
- 48:55Speaker 3: So I don't know, Yeah, which is why for me,
- 48:58Speaker 3: I could be totally wrong.
- 49:00Speaker 2: I felt that Angela's daughter was ready for the smoke,
- 49:07Speaker 2: and I do agree that Angela wasn't ready to I
- 49:11Speaker 2: think it's twofolk. I think Angela wasn't ready for her
- 49:14Speaker 2: daughter to deal with the aftermath of People on social
- 49:17Speaker 2: media will say but I also think Angela wasn't also
- 49:20Speaker 2: ready for what was about to be revealed about their
- 49:24Speaker 2: dynamic and when she spoke about her mother in heaven,
- 49:28Speaker 2: like Dustin said, I think, I think first born kids
- 49:33Speaker 2: can all agree that your grandmother is lois key in
- 49:40Speaker 2: some situations, your mom who raised you, or somebody who
- 49:47Speaker 2: you value as this person looked out for me. And
- 49:51Speaker 2: I just felt that they dangle so many different nuances
- 49:55Speaker 2: that the black community can relate.
- 49:57Speaker 3: To that I did feel the ball was dropped but
- 50:00Speaker 3: not giving it to us.
- 50:02Speaker 4: Have you ever I have a question. Have you ever.
- 50:06Speaker 10: Thought that you were ready to tell a story and
- 50:08Speaker 10: you're like, oh, this is something that happened in the past,
- 50:10Speaker 10: I'm ready to tell it, and halfway through you start crying, like, no,
- 50:12Speaker 10: I thought I was.
- 50:13Speaker 4: Here, what was going on?
- 50:15Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's what happened.
- 50:18Speaker 4: Oh shit, No, seriously, right.
- 50:21Speaker 10: I think we saw a human glitch where you think, oh,
- 50:25Speaker 10: I'm always I can tell it, and then you're like, wait,
- 50:26Speaker 10: why am I steering up and you realize when you're
- 50:29Speaker 10: halfway in the thick of it, I'm actually not ready.
- 50:31Speaker 4: This is a little too raw. I think we saw
- 50:33Speaker 4: that happen and the producers couldn't figure out how to
- 50:36Speaker 4: like walk it.
- 50:36Speaker 10: Back, if that makes sense, because I feel like they're
- 50:39Speaker 10: readiness and then they were like, oh, snap, maybe not
- 50:41Speaker 10: so much.
- 50:42Speaker 8: Because it's it's a very sensitive We're talking about sexuality,
- 50:47Speaker 8: we're talking about the complexities of a mother daughter relationship.
- 50:51Speaker 9: We're talking about.
- 50:52Speaker 8: Minor children, siblings of the person, and how do you
- 50:58Speaker 8: properly inform them of this very adult subject. You know
- 51:01Speaker 8: what I'm saying, It's just a lot of sensitive shit,
- 51:04Speaker 8: a lot of degree exactly. It's a lot of nuance
- 51:08Speaker 8: and layers here. It's something then that needs to be
- 51:11Speaker 8: handled with care for sure, especially in view to those
- 51:15Speaker 8: to her younger siblings. And actually shout out to both
- 51:18Speaker 8: of them for being willing to talk about it on TV,
- 51:20Speaker 8: because that's not some shit Black families traditionally do.
- 51:23Speaker 4: So.
- 51:23Speaker 9: Shout out to Angela and her daughter Amari.
- 51:26Speaker 10: The whole episode was the whole episode a raw wound,
- 51:30Speaker 10: like everybody had even to me at the end, I
- 51:33Speaker 10: was like, somebody needs to hold her.
- 51:34Speaker 4: The whole episode was very emotional.
- 51:36Speaker 3: Well, let's get into that. I want to get into
- 51:39Speaker 3: that because Cynthia and.
- 51:44Speaker 2: Angela through Billy Bowl Part two, and before that, we
- 51:49Speaker 2: did see that Portia and Drew are talking and they
- 51:54Speaker 2: have decided to be business partners, possibly when it comes
- 51:59Speaker 2: to go naked hair spoiler alert.
- 52:01Speaker 3: We saw the photo shoot, so we know that Drew
- 52:03Speaker 3: did say yes.
- 52:04Speaker 2: Ultimately, I look, you guys can obviously say everything you
- 52:11Speaker 2: want to say in regards to the Billy Bowl. I'm
- 52:13Speaker 2: just saying for me as I start things off, I
- 52:16Speaker 2: don't I'm not going to talk about the game and the.
- 52:20Speaker 3: I don't care about that. This seemed to me really
- 52:24Speaker 3: outline the bias in this group. This group.
- 52:33Speaker 2: Is divided because they have chosen one person to be
- 52:41Speaker 2: hard on and the energy isn't being matched. Right when
- 52:46Speaker 2: I looked at the Billy Bowl scene, what's happening in
- 52:49Speaker 2: this moment to me is I do feel like.
- 52:55Speaker 3: What the energy they're getting. Shamiyah, who isn't perfect.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Shemiah, in my opinion, hasn't done anything more or less
- 53:04Speaker 2: than what these other girls have.
- 53:07Speaker 3: And I do think there is this there is this
- 53:09Speaker 3: thing where and I'm gonna call it out.
- 53:12Speaker 2: And I know more about the way these shows work.
- 53:15Speaker 2: Being a producer especially comes to the show. We know
- 53:19Speaker 2: that Porsche is the Queen Bee, and I do feel
- 53:23Speaker 2: like the relationships that they're having, everybody wants to be
- 53:28Speaker 2: on the Queen be side this season. Porscha is getting
- 53:32Speaker 2: no smoke except Kelly Fadrian giving Porscha no smoke. Obviously,
- 53:40Speaker 2: Porscha isn't getting any smoke from anybody. And I'm not
- 53:43Speaker 2: saying Portra deserves any smoke. I'm not saying she does.
- 53:46Speaker 3: The point that I'm.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Making is I, as a viewer, I'm not understanding what
- 53:51Speaker 2: does Shemia do so badly that she deserves all this
- 53:56Speaker 2: shade coming her way?
- 53:57Speaker 3: I am I am confused by that.
- 53:59Speaker 2: And when I saw how Pinky, like Dustin said, try
- 54:04Speaker 2: to bring up okay, came Mischelle, what's going on with
- 54:08Speaker 2: you guys? And I was frustrating that moment honestly because Dustin,
- 54:13Speaker 2: you did say Pink, it was doing her job. I'll
- 54:15Speaker 2: give her a C plus because no, you should have said, hey,
- 54:20Speaker 2: I met with Key Michelle.
- 54:21Speaker 3: Ky Michelle said yes, like we gonna have a real conversation.
- 54:26Speaker 2: And in that moment, I felt bad for Shamiah because
- 54:29Speaker 2: she's confused, Like I got beat with ky Michelle because
- 54:32Speaker 2: if you look at what happened last week. Shamia has
- 54:35Speaker 2: no idea what came Michelle said about her and to
- 54:39Speaker 2: be in this hear me out to be in this
- 54:43Speaker 2: group and you already know you and Porsche and good
- 54:47Speaker 2: and we get it.
- 54:49Speaker 3: I do feel like now that the girls know that Portion.
- 54:51Speaker 2: And Shamia aren't friends anymore, they're going to side with
- 54:55Speaker 2: the popular girl in school and at the expense of Shemiah.
- 54:59Speaker 2: I'm not saying Shamim innocent. I feel like Shamia is
- 55:01Speaker 2: doing her job, reading the girls, being outspoken and all
- 55:05Speaker 2: those things. But I do feel like Angela has a
- 55:08Speaker 2: heart on for Shamia that to me, the punishment does
- 55:11Speaker 2: not fit the crime. And I do feel like Angela
- 55:14Speaker 2: has way more smoke for Shamia than she did Proportia
- 55:17Speaker 2: last season. And as I'm watching this attagonistic way of
- 55:25Speaker 2: her dealing with things as somebody who thinks Angela's everything
- 55:29Speaker 2: and she still lives, I would have to say, me
- 55:31Speaker 2: being honest, I am surprised that Angela has this weird
- 55:36Speaker 2: heart on for Shamia when other girls have done worse.
- 55:41Speaker 2: And I'm not sure why Shamia is all of a
- 55:43Speaker 2: sudden getting this treatment for saying sasquatch.
- 55:49Speaker 5: I agree with you, it's giving Kenya more two point
- 55:54Speaker 5: zero when everyone was like hating on Kenya. And yes,
- 55:56Speaker 5: has Kenya done some things that can make people feel
- 55:59Speaker 5: a way. Yes, has Shamiyah. Yes has a lot of
- 56:02Speaker 5: a cast and stuff. Yes, But I feel like, you know,
- 56:05Speaker 5: when like everyone's getting along and then there's like a
- 56:07Speaker 5: little break in something like there's like one person that
- 56:10Speaker 5: could be liked as the weakest link all the weaker link,
- 56:13Speaker 5: it builds our bond to all at one person or
- 56:18Speaker 5: to just pick on that person, and it makes our bond.
- 56:20Speaker 7: Now it's like we're extra having fun.
- 56:22Speaker 6: Ah, wasn't that so funny over here?
- 56:25Speaker 5: Just doing the most see that shit all the time,
- 56:28Speaker 5: and it's like it's easy, like okay, once we just
- 56:30Speaker 5: we don't want to fight with each other cause we're
- 56:31Speaker 5: actually finally in a good place. Drew and Porsche we're
- 56:34Speaker 5: great now and and and you know, Angela and all
- 56:38Speaker 5: they're getting along, so they don't want to.
- 56:39Speaker 7: Have smoke for each other. They do not guess, but
- 56:42Speaker 7: they do go to the person that she's an easy target.
- 56:44Speaker 7: And I'm not saying that Shemiah.
- 56:47Speaker 5: Hasn't done anything. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
- 56:50Speaker 5: I don't think anyone on the show is innocent. I
- 56:52Speaker 5: think everyone's done their little shit right, But it's easy
- 56:55Speaker 5: to like, you know what, if I had to pick
- 56:57Speaker 5: one person, let me pick her, and let's all join
- 56:58Speaker 5: in and just pie on it, because I feel like
- 57:01Speaker 5: the same way, the punishment doesn't fit the climb when
- 57:03Speaker 5: there's other people have done sup to you that's done worse.
- 57:05Speaker 5: And I hate this Samia Angela thing because I like
- 57:08Speaker 5: them both. I really like Angela, but I'll be like, yo,
- 57:10Speaker 5: why you what's up with that?
- 57:12Speaker 4: You know?
- 57:14Speaker 3: Dartin.
- 57:15Speaker 8: Yeah, I do think Samia is getting a bad rap,
- 57:18Speaker 8: not a bad rap. I do think Samia is being
- 57:20Speaker 8: unfairly identified as the nucleus of every problem on the
- 57:25Speaker 8: damn show, and she's just simply not that.
- 57:28Speaker 9: You know, people have their own reasons for maybe not preferring.
- 57:33Speaker 8: Shemiah, but I don't think there's been an occurrence or
- 57:36Speaker 8: any she's done anything egregious on camera for us to
- 57:40Speaker 8: see that will warrant some of like the vitriol that
- 57:43Speaker 8: she's receiving. And I'm not speaking towards Angela because I
- 57:45Speaker 8: feel like Angela just be talking shit and trying to
- 57:48Speaker 8: mind you know, things that will make the show progress.
- 57:51Speaker 8: I get what she's doing, but there are other people
- 57:53Speaker 8: who have kind of I don't know. I just and
- 57:56Speaker 8: and everything ain't no flat answered like zero some you
- 58:00Speaker 8: know what I mean. So, of course to me is
- 58:02Speaker 8: not innocent per se, but it is a little bit
- 58:04Speaker 8: heavy handed her way, in her direction, you know what
- 58:08Speaker 8: I'm saying. And it is getting kind of boring to watch.
- 58:11Speaker 8: But I think that that's going to lead to a
- 58:13Speaker 8: very activated to me at this reunion. And I don't
- 58:16Speaker 8: know about y'all, but I am looking forward to it.
- 58:20Speaker 8: I want to see the reunion. I want a blood
- 58:22Speaker 8: bad current. I want that what was that fucked up
- 58:25Speaker 8: ass wedding from Game of.
- 58:26Speaker 4: Thrones, that red wedding. Honey them dragons. I love that show.
- 58:31Speaker 9: That's what I want, Blue. I want the red wedding.
- 58:34Speaker 4: That's one of the worst blood maps in the history
- 58:36Speaker 4: of television.
- 58:38Speaker 7: They are shooting, they are shoes. A reunion this week?
- 58:41Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 58:42Speaker 10: Can I can I speak on behalf of tauruses because
- 58:44Speaker 10: Angel is a tourist and so I'm not confused ahead, Okay,
- 58:49Speaker 10: I just I gotta speak from my people.
- 58:50Speaker 4: We're very specific about this as a.
- 58:54Speaker 10: Tourist woman who shockingly is known for being direct, right,
- 58:58Speaker 10: I know, surprise, christ surprised if I see three of
- 59:03Speaker 10: y'all on some bullshit and two of y'all admitted, and
- 59:08Speaker 10: the third one not only does it admit it but
- 59:10Speaker 10: keeps playing victim. I'm gonna have a hard arm for
- 59:12Speaker 10: you because you're not so I'm the same. I'm gonna
- 59:16Speaker 10: be honest if you do something. She means a tourist too,
- 59:19Speaker 10: So it's they see each other. If you it's our
- 59:22Speaker 10: says to who are wrong.
- 59:23Speaker 4: Sometimes unless they've gotten to talk to the lady, they
- 59:25Speaker 4: don't know how to admit it.
- 59:26Speaker 10: I think for Angela, the thing that is annoying her
- 59:29Speaker 10: because it's something that actually annoys me.
- 59:30Speaker 4: And I've had to learn to accuse myself is Portia
- 59:34Speaker 4: says some shit and she ate it. She's like, you
- 59:36Speaker 4: know what, bit she got me?
- 59:39Speaker 2: My bad?
- 59:39Speaker 4: I did it right?
- 59:41Speaker 3: What's so the other people?
- 59:42Speaker 10: My bad?
- 59:43Speaker 4: You got me?
- 59:44Speaker 10: Tomiah continues to feign like nothing that is being said
- 59:49Speaker 10: about her, and I'm just speaking of Bavava Taurus.
- 59:52Speaker 4: She's still playing.
- 59:53Speaker 10: Victim and not just eating it. I cannot I'm so sorry.
- 59:57Speaker 10: I don't care about the offense. I care about the accountability.
- 1:00:00Speaker 10: M h the girl who not only doesn't need it
- 1:00:02Speaker 10: but keeps crying. She's gonna keep kissing me the fuck off.
- 1:00:05Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I just love.
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: You keep crying rather than just taking the l.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, and this is good
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: and and this is I'm so glad we all agree.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: You don't care about the game, Greg game by the way,
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: Cynthia and Angela Greg games.
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: Yes, I understand.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: To me, this scene, to me sort of, this was
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: the first scene to me this season that was so
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: blatant with the alliance that has occurred, right.
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: Because I I I there were two offenses for me
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: that I was.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Like, I'm really annoyed right now, right I was, I'm
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: like Dustin, I love Ka down to the ground. I
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: was annoyed that, Okay, you did tell Pinky this, and yes, Pinky.
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: Tried to bring it use you could talk about it.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: I was not happy that kym mischelle did not stand
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: on business. I was annoyed by that, Like you, you
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: gotta stand on business with these girls. There can be
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: more scenes where you say.
- 1:01:18Speaker 9: Something, I ain't doing shit. She ain't do nothing, Carlos
- 1:01:23Speaker 9: say it. She ain't do shit. She's sitting in that scene,
- 1:01:26Speaker 9: mute and silent.
- 1:01:28Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, folding into herself, she
- 1:01:31Speaker 8: said in that scene, just like this, she was uncomfortable.
- 1:01:34Speaker 8: And she's got so much personality in her confessionals, she's
- 1:01:38Speaker 8: got so much personality. On Twitter, she had way more
- 1:01:41Speaker 8: personality and she was more lively on watch what happens.
- 1:01:44Speaker 9: But you don't get to just.
- 1:01:46Speaker 8: Stand in the semi circle and just stand there when
- 1:01:50Speaker 8: you have some of that and somebody mind you.
- 1:01:54Speaker 9: Pinky probably have been thinking.
- 1:01:55Speaker 8: The entire time, like say something, say something, so she
- 1:01:58Speaker 8: probably was like, well, fuck y'all all right, you know,
- 1:02:00Speaker 8: or maybe she was prompted by producers, who knows, but
- 1:02:03Speaker 8: either way came Mischelle was literally they took the rid
- 1:02:06Speaker 8: carpet like those you know, those reels or tick type videos,
- 1:02:10Speaker 8: or the guy throws the rid carpet out in front
- 1:02:12Speaker 8: of the random people walking down the street and then
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: he does like a photo shooter and walking down there
- 1:02:16Speaker 8: like a model. That's what Pinky did to Ky Michelle
- 1:02:19Speaker 8: in that scene. Here you go, here go the floor girl.
- 1:02:22Speaker 10: And what it came to Shechelle, she just stood there
- 1:02:25Speaker 10: and that is Angela's watching that. By the way, Angela's
- 1:02:28Speaker 10: watching all these things happen again.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: But that's why I'm gonna say that, Claudia, you got next.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: But that's why for me, I felt like, and let's
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: have a real conversation. If if Samiah pull came and
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: Sheryl pulled, the rest of those girls would not just
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: say all right, are we done filming?
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: They would their best to extracted honest mea right.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: And so that's what I'm saying blue about this bias
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: that I'm seeing e when it comes to these girls
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: because Kim Michelle is allowed to get away with there's
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: no energy, no energy, but she's ada though I'm not
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: gonna try to here's the thing, she was dead on arrival.
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: Shemiah actually knows how to activate. They're not different to me.
- 1:03:13Speaker 10: It's not even a bias, it's different expectations. We know
- 1:03:16Speaker 10: Shemiah could be a media darling, can be a fan,
- 1:03:18Speaker 10: Faith can turn it up. What's friends with everybody? I
- 1:03:20Speaker 10: think for me, what I saw in that scene was
- 1:03:22Speaker 10: and Angela even said it, she said, you know, you're
- 1:03:25Speaker 10: still mad at me about the fact that you blame
- 1:03:26Speaker 10: me for what happened with you.
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: In port She said it.
- 1:03:28Speaker 10: She said, Kimmy, I understand that frustration. Angela me wasn't
- 1:03:33Speaker 10: picking her. She's like, let's.
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: Finally do this.
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: I agree with you, and that's why I'm annoyed with
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: all of those girls in that scene.
- 1:03:43Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it was even I think Angela was frustrated,
- 1:03:45Speaker 10: like this is the perfect situation for us to finally
- 1:03:48Speaker 10: have this nasty Porsia's here, you're here, Shemias here came,
- 1:03:53Speaker 10: We're all here.
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: Why the fuck are we not having the conversation?
- 1:03:56Speaker 6: Everybody participated though everyone's not participating.
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: Everyone's look like bully.
- 1:04:00Speaker 10: The one person who participates, it looks like a bully
- 1:04:02Speaker 10: with nobody. Everybody else is playing dead.
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: Cachelle is not participating, she said, you want to pile on.
- 1:04:08Speaker 5: I get that, and I can do something else. Though
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: you I be so mad if your first year. I'm
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: forst year and you ain't doing your job, but I
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: have to go give one hundred and ten percent or
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: that ship is annoying and that's a quick way to
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: get people to resent you.
- 1:04:23Speaker 7: And then Portia is not participating with Shmir.
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: We all checked out, and it's like, okay, so now
- 1:04:29Speaker 5: you've got spokes people speaking on your behalf, and it's crazy,
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: like there's such a disconnect because everyone is not showing
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: up for work for.
- 1:04:37Speaker 10: Angela, who now looks crazy because everybody took the day
- 1:04:40Speaker 10: off and she's at work by herself.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: But I gotta say this, and I'm not blaming Angela
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: because obviously it's not her job to make sure everyone clocks. Yeah,
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: the thing is this, if I was Angela in that moment,
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: the reason why it looks bad for Angela and Shmia
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: looks like she's being picked on is because this y'all
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: tell me if I got this wrong, I do not
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: understand the life of me while we're talking about Angela
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: versus Shemia.
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: To me, it was great, It wasn't amazing, It wasn't
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: Puerto Rico.
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: You now, this is the gag.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Minia and Claudia never talked about Puerto Rico. After Puerto Rico.
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: They had other shit going on. So the fact that
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: we're talking about this and it's hoping the lap dog
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: no shade. There's tons of puppies that was on that
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: fucking wood that wants to be on Portia's lap and
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: that is no shade, right, So the thing is nobody
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: is trying to have like these honest conversations.
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: That's why Pinky, I'll give her that she tried, but
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: she failed.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: Because if you want to again talk going back to
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Angela and her daughter, don't break up shit in half
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: asset that gets from my fucking nerves. You guys are
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: making twenty thousand plus more episode.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: Call this shit out. Hey, we are here. What is
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: y'all issue?
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: So y'all y'all like Angela right now?
- 1:06:04Speaker 10: You see the irony is right now as we're talking
- 1:06:07Speaker 10: about it, you sound like Angela.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: And that's why unless it was let it out Angela.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Let me know if Angela should have said Portia, No,
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: we're all gonna talk about this and all of you
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: guys are going to address this because this this can't
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: just be about Angela and Shamia and came Michelle and Pinky.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: What did cay Michelle say, because clearly you're not some
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: fucking you know profit the energy is wrong. There's no
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: fucking energy. Came Michelle told me obvious behind Shomia's back,
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: let's bring it up. And I think that to me
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: is what's frustrating me about these girls in this scene
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: because you girls aren't trying to clock in faith are
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: sitting there making side comments. Drew was just there looking
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: gorgeous and made me.
- 1:06:50Speaker 8: Laugh in that scene, Carlos, when Drew said yeah, because
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: last season he just being somebody's lap dog and this
- 1:06:57Speaker 8: is you do it again, she.
- 1:06:58Speaker 6: Was like, who's left, Carlos.
- 1:07:05Speaker 10: If Kenya Moore was there to Claudia and Clodia live
- 1:07:07Speaker 10: in the place, because Kenya have Angela.
- 1:07:09Speaker 6: Kenya Moore would never allow girls in the scene with
- 1:07:13Speaker 6: her to not work.
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: She would clock it and get everybody together, like I'll
- 1:07:18Speaker 5: be damn if I'm the only one working.
- 1:07:19Speaker 7: Y'all gonna work. Y'all gonna work.
- 1:07:21Speaker 5: We're not just gonna sit here and let some people
- 1:07:23Speaker 5: sit there twiddling their thumbs. You're fighting her, battle for her.
- 1:07:26Speaker 5: You ain't saying ship you're on the Beyonce mute challenge.
- 1:07:29Speaker 7: Say it.
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: It's so annoying. It's so annoying, and it makes someone erradic,
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: like you do Angela doing the work of three people. Yeah,
- 1:07:39Speaker 5: it looks like she's just being messy And I'm not
- 1:07:41Speaker 5: keeping for Angela.
- 1:07:41Speaker 10: By the way, I'm just saying that I all four
- 1:07:45Speaker 10: of us would have been the Angela. That's why I
- 1:07:46Speaker 10: had to call that we wouldn't be hypocrites, all four
- 1:07:48Speaker 10: of us.
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: What the fuck?
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: Somebody God agree something?
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: I agree? And and and the thing is this, The
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: thing is this. I just don't like it when a
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: show kisses the ass is of the ogs or the vets.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: And no one is there to just have real conversation.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: It's it's the most frustrating thing.
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: And I and for some reason this scene, I thought
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: it was so blatant what was going on because they
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: were annoying.
- 1:08:20Speaker 7: It was annoying hours.
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: I was like, Poorscha and Angela, and what y'all gonna do?
- 1:08:25Speaker 5: Not y'all, but what people, what it's going to do
- 1:08:28Speaker 5: is going to turn you know, when people someone gets
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: picked like whether to me is right wrong or not.
- 1:08:32Speaker 6: It's gonna end up making people start siding with her
- 1:08:35Speaker 6: just because of like, well, okay, what was it.
- 1:08:37Speaker 5: You're almost gonna forget what the beat the original beef
- 1:08:39Speaker 5: was about, because now it's just too much like y'all
- 1:08:42Speaker 5: not even addressing what it really is.
- 1:08:43Speaker 7: Like just it and the things ain't that big of
- 1:08:46Speaker 7: a deal. They're not serious things. They're little things, and
- 1:08:49Speaker 7: they're not.
- 1:08:50Speaker 4: More frustrating because we could have been had this conversation.
- 1:08:52Speaker 5: Yeah, the things that they're funning about is not like, oh,
- 1:08:55Speaker 5: you actually did have sex with my husband.
- 1:08:56Speaker 7: It's none of that. It's little goofy things.
- 1:08:58Speaker 6: That's literally she dragged you wrong.
- 1:09:03Speaker 9: To say nothing else about that dirty room. Yeah another word,
- 1:09:08Speaker 9: you define word. It has nothing to do with the
- 1:09:12Speaker 9: story of the season. We don't want to hear it
- 1:09:15Speaker 9: no more.
- 1:09:15Speaker 7: I did ask something about that. We didn't talk about
- 1:09:17Speaker 7: that last night.
- 1:09:18Speaker 9: We went out to dinner too, So like I feel you, but.
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: Yes, we know Shmia, Yes, Jerry, you dragged it, and
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: you know take Fish, you dragged.
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: It elected me.
- 1:09:33Speaker 10: I just want I just want her to like actually
- 1:09:35Speaker 10: lectured me and Angela, And I think accountability is the
- 1:09:38Speaker 10: wall that's between them. I think, honestly maybe coming from wrong.
- 1:09:42Speaker 10: I've seen Angela. The minute you eat it, Angela will
- 1:09:45Speaker 10: let it go because.
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: The same way the minute eat it's over and you
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: know what, you know what you did. But me too,
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: my man, I still might hit you.
- 1:09:57Speaker 5: But like you think, I think Shemiah feels like she
- 1:10:01Speaker 5: can't admit anything now because when you feel like it's
- 1:10:03Speaker 5: you versus everybody's faith for her to say, you know what,
- 1:10:07Speaker 5: I was wrong.
- 1:10:09Speaker 6: She's just gotta she got to stand on her now
- 1:10:11Speaker 6: in her mind, but it's not helping her.
- 1:10:13Speaker 7: It's not helping her.
- 1:10:14Speaker 8: But I think that's what part of the problem is.
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: Smia feels like she has to defend herself. She's being
- 1:10:20Speaker 8: defensive in a way that is kind of like a
- 1:10:22Speaker 8: turnoff for the fans, And I feel like it's because
- 1:10:24Speaker 8: she feels like she has to protect and defend herself
- 1:10:27Speaker 8: when everybody coming at her. And I wish she would
- 1:10:30Speaker 8: just like I wish her fuck y'all looked a little
- 1:10:33Speaker 8: bit different than it does. That's what I wish her
- 1:10:36Speaker 8: fuck y'all looked like. I ain't even gonna plan of
- 1:10:38Speaker 8: that whatever. And if we got to get into an argument,
- 1:10:40Speaker 8: we argue, But I'm not about to feel like I
- 1:10:43Speaker 8: now have to avenge, you know what I'm saying all
- 1:10:45Speaker 8: this other shit Like, No, I just wish her fuck
- 1:10:47Speaker 8: you looked at little different.
- 1:10:48Speaker 9: But I'm thoroughly entertained. Baby.
- 1:10:53Speaker 5: I feel like, like I said, I just think that
- 1:10:55Speaker 5: to me, it's just still like in a growing pain's
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: uncomfortable place in the show.
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: Yeah's not you, So this is you know.
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: I think she's just like just the being the bad
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: guy on the out. She was always the sidekick to
- 1:11:10Speaker 5: the most popular girl on the show. She's like, it's
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: gonna take this season and maybe even next season to
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: still get to that you know what. Like the villain
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: era was, she could beat her Kenyon more and be like,
- 1:11:19Speaker 5: you know what, fuck all, y'all suck my deck.
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: Okay, but she's not there.
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: She's you can tell she still looks like she still cares.
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: I think she's like, wait, what, I'm on in the
- 1:11:27Speaker 5: n group for once in my life, I'm on the outside.
- 1:11:30Speaker 5: I'm not thinking about she's with Candy, She's with all
- 1:11:32Speaker 5: those friends. But in this situation, she's on the ouse.
- 1:11:36Speaker 5: In this group, she's on the ouse.
- 1:11:38Speaker 4: The tourists. Please to me.
- 1:11:39Speaker 10: I'm just trust me, sister, I understand. Okay, the tourists
- 1:11:43Speaker 10: need to die on stupid hills.
- 1:11:45Speaker 4: I get it.
- 1:11:45Speaker 10: My life change where I could just take it out,
- 1:11:47Speaker 10: my entire life change when I could just take it
- 1:11:50Speaker 10: and keep it moving.
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: That's all you need to do. I promise you just
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: try it, try it and get.
- 1:11:54Speaker 5: Back to us and came Selle, please wake it up.
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: It's honestly you are not living up to your full potential.
- 1:12:00Speaker 7: And I take it. Fans.
- 1:12:01Speaker 5: I'm sorry because episode three I was giving a prop
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: sa she's a star, not on this show.
- 1:12:05Speaker 7: She's not doing it.
- 1:12:06Speaker 5: She's missing, she's at bat, striking out. She's missing so
- 1:12:10Speaker 5: many layups where.
- 1:12:12Speaker 7: She could be great.
- 1:12:13Speaker 5: And with that funny one liner she used to have.
- 1:12:15Speaker 5: We know she's funny, she's entertaining, she smart. It's a
- 1:12:17Speaker 5: waste of a check. It's but you know she's not
- 1:12:21Speaker 5: the worst. It's phaser first because Phaede has a talent too.
- 1:12:24Speaker 5: She's doing nothing.
- 1:12:26Speaker 10: Unemployment child, I don't even know. Watch this is sever
- 1:12:29Speaker 10: we're watching her seventh season.
- 1:12:30Speaker 7: But she's gonna have the trip. She's gonna have the
- 1:12:32Speaker 7: trips Scotland.
- 1:12:34Speaker 5: She's gonna have the Scotland a Scotland child, My god,
- 1:12:37Speaker 5: she gets the pick rooms and you know, okay, maybe
- 1:12:40Speaker 5: she'll talk.
- 1:12:42Speaker 7: Oh wait, let me stop paying.
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: Girls hit it. I can feel go ahead. Clean up
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: was not gonna be my segue.
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, look, Scotland is next week.
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: We all know that this is the trip where unfortunately
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: it is the Based on my interviews with both of them,
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: it appears to be the.
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: Final now on the Copnother friendship in Portia, which is unfortunate.
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: I'm not it's not going to be in next week's episode,
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: but obviously it's definitely.
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: A part of this trip.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: And look, they are taping the reunion this week, and
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: it is going to be Dustin's right, it's going to
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: be a blood bath.
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: It's going to be a blood bath. And it's like
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: a fat cake like party.
- 1:13:45Speaker 4: In my house.
- 1:13:46Speaker 8: Anybody's New York if you're in New York thinking allowed
- 1:13:51Speaker 8: as New York in the background.
- 1:13:53Speaker 5: I do think it's as much as like to me,
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: is not going to be ready for that many people
- 1:13:58Speaker 5: like her versus that many people, and it's gonna be real.
- 1:14:01Speaker 6: I predict it's gonna be really bad for her.
- 1:14:03Speaker 7: Like it's too many people.
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: It's like you, like Bruce Lee fighting all the ninjas
- 1:14:07Speaker 5: around you, like over here, over here, that's.
- 1:14:09Speaker 7: Gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard for you.
- 1:14:11Speaker 5: Better get us some adderall and some moscato.
- 1:14:14Speaker 6: And beyond ready because you canna be.
- 1:14:15Speaker 4: Focused or just take the l shock everybody.
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, you could just see that. We'll speak, we'll speed.
- 1:14:24Speaker 9: But bring.
- 1:14:29Speaker 8: You're setting her up for a beautiful bring your beautiful
- 1:14:33Speaker 8: mothers and sit them on the couch the same way
- 1:14:35Speaker 8: that Carlos and them made sure that Mama Joyce was
- 1:14:37Speaker 8: sitting on the couch in season six to say her piece,
- 1:14:40Speaker 8: and it was one of the best fucking reunion moments ever.
- 1:14:43Speaker 9: A Papa Rochi, Si, you remember that part.
- 1:14:47Speaker 8: So I wish that I hope that both mothers can
- 1:14:51Speaker 8: come and see that conversation through on the reunion states that's.
- 1:14:55Speaker 9: What we want.
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's ain't drawn. Let us know the comments
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: your thoughts on it.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: Before I let you guys go, somebody did ask a
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: question that I think we all should answer, and that
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: is your seating chart predictions for the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: Starting with Dustin Ross.
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Dustin Ross's prediction for the seating chart of
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion.
- 1:15:29Speaker 8: For sure, fourth chair, first chair, Porsche, Shaniya, second chair,
- 1:15:35Speaker 8: Phaedra Angela, third chair, Kelly.
- 1:15:45Speaker 9: Pinky, fourth chair, Drew.
- 1:15:51Speaker 8: And whoever else is left. And then my baby Cynthia
- 1:15:54Speaker 8: comes out and just do her thing.
- 1:15:56Speaker 9: That's what I think. Michelle at the end, Oh, she
- 1:16:06Speaker 9: ain't got to say. She ain't say no, she's sitting
- 1:16:11Speaker 9: in the front. If it's big on letter saying, she
- 1:16:13Speaker 9: could put it be up in the front.
- 1:16:14Speaker 8: Yeah, because she's great at that she hasn't had anything
- 1:16:18Speaker 8: to say, and the reunion seating is based on who
- 1:16:20Speaker 8: has the most to contribute to the story, you know.
- 1:16:23Speaker 8: So I think that I'll put her like towards the end.
- 1:16:25Speaker 8: But I definitely think she's coming back next season. I
- 1:16:28Speaker 8: definitely think that she'll continue on the show. I definitely
- 1:16:31Speaker 8: think she can do well, but she gonna be on
- 1:16:33Speaker 8: the end at that reunion.
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: Blue to loose my your seating charm prediction or the
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion.
- 1:16:42Speaker 10: I actually Dustin and I had the same chart, and
- 1:16:45Speaker 10: my only concess I asked him where you put Ky Michelle.
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: My only thing is.
- 1:16:49Speaker 10: I'm wondering, not a diversity higher, but I'm wondering if
- 1:16:52Speaker 10: Michelle is gonna be bumped up simply because she's Ky Michelle.
- 1:16:56Speaker 4: That's the only wild card that I had, Like, I'm
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: wondering if he is going to because it's her first
- 1:17:01Speaker 4: season and everybody was really excited about her and she's
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: been such a hot topic that that's gonna push her
- 1:17:07Speaker 4: up a little bit further than she's earned.
- 1:17:09Speaker 10: Based on her work, if that makes sense. She ain't
- 1:17:12Speaker 10: got shit to say. I mean, that's just doing a
- 1:17:13Speaker 10: whole set on that lady.
- 1:17:14Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: I do think Portion and Shamir are at the front.
- 1:17:20Speaker 4: I do think have been avoiding each other so much.
- 1:17:24Speaker 10: And he's gonna be like the two Barbie Keith, You're
- 1:17:26Speaker 10: gonna put them, that's my prediction, like the two Barbie Dolls.
- 1:17:35Speaker 4: So I think that's whether they want to or not.
- 1:17:38Speaker 4: That's my prediction. Because Andy's messy.
- 1:17:40Speaker 9: I like the story. Yeah, okay, Carlos, look, you know
- 1:17:46Speaker 9: my store I like to shop. Yeah.
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: Uh, Claudia Jordan your reunion sitting chart prediction for the
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Atlanta.
- 1:18:00Speaker 5: Of course, Samia because it's Samia Shamia, Shamia Marshall, Marshall Mark.
- 1:18:04Speaker 7: Okay, she's gonna be first chair on that side.
- 1:18:07Speaker 5: I would say Porscha because she's a star, but she
- 1:18:09Speaker 5: hasn't been as many conflicts this season, So I'm gonna
- 1:18:13Speaker 5: go with Angela because she's quite busy everybody else's stuff.
- 1:18:17Speaker 5: Not that Porschie doesn't deserve a closely to Andy, but
- 1:18:19Speaker 5: I feel like She's like had a not uneventful but
- 1:18:22Speaker 5: she didn't have a lot of drama this season, like
- 1:18:24Speaker 5: you know, okay.
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
- 1:18:26Speaker 5: And then I will say, I don't know the order
- 1:18:28Speaker 5: of Kelly and then Cynthia, Kelly, and Pinky and Drew.
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: I would put Cynthia on the couch, Kelly, Pinky, Drew.
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: I would put kym Scholl and Phedra in the green
- 1:18:41Speaker 5: room and they can just watch it on the screens
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: because since they didn't contribute much to the entire season,
- 1:18:48Speaker 5: they can just be where the snacks are.
- 1:18:51Speaker 4: Not craft services.
- 1:18:53Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised that Porscha wasn't,
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: you know, like a. But I just feel like as
- 1:19:00Speaker 5: far as like drama, like Angela was kind of busy
- 1:19:03Speaker 5: and that's my girl, but she was kind of busy
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: and everybody else's ship.
- 1:19:06Speaker 7: She was kind of being the mouthpiece. It's up that
- 1:19:08Speaker 7: she had nothing to do with.
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: But yeah, uh, Cay, Michelle came, sell and and Fhaser
- 1:19:14Speaker 5: can actually just carpool together and hang out in the
- 1:19:17Speaker 5: green room.
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: Claudia, it's gonna.
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: Be small and talls.
- 1:19:21Speaker 10: Via like you know how they clustered the couches. I
- 1:19:23Speaker 10: do feel like it might be as Smalls and Talls
- 1:19:25Speaker 10: couch though too.
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: Okay, here's my prediction.
- 1:19:32Speaker 5: I'm just as far as being involved in the drama.
- 1:19:34Speaker 5: I think I had more of a peaceful season than
- 1:19:37Speaker 5: I thought she was gonna have. I thought it'd be
- 1:19:38Speaker 5: more drama with the sway and all that, So that's
- 1:19:40Speaker 5: what I thought.
- 1:19:41Speaker 4: Well, you had two of them in the green room,
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: So do you agree? Is A can be cleaning the
- 1:19:49Speaker 4: toilet in the commercial break?
- 1:19:51Speaker 5: I want to give her that because she's got a
- 1:19:52Speaker 5: lot of jobs, but I don't think that's one of
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: her jobs. But I do think she could take the
- 1:19:55Speaker 5: day off like she's been taking the season off, and
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: she could just be in the green room.
- 1:19:59Speaker 6: Why I spent all that money and glamor in a
- 1:20:00Speaker 6: gown and then please don't come with that ship you
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: had on last season with the bullshit like this was
- 1:20:05Speaker 6: her last season.
- 1:20:06Speaker 10: Oh yeah, the head the head thing, Yeah, that was weird.
- 1:20:09Speaker 10: It was giving real gladiated with with with no Gladiator.
- 1:20:14Speaker 4: Carlos.
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: I just want to go on record say Monday nights
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: is my favorite night of the week. Okay, so all right,
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: this is.
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: I'm stuck in the bathroom. All right, so here we go.
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: I think first chair is Porsche.
- 1:20:36Speaker 4: Should me you can see that too, of course, yes, okay,
- 1:20:40Speaker 4: So I'll go.
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: To Porscha's collge.
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: I see Porscha, College being, Porsche, Angela Oakley, juice A,
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: Dora mm hmm, Phaedra wow, I see phaithe I see
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: so once again, Porsche, first chair, next to Portia.
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: Angela, next thing, Angela drew and then.
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: Phases at the end, and then Cynthia comes out right
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: ye on this couch, I see Samia, Kelly mm hmm, Cay, Michelle.
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: Literally just.
- 1:21:30Speaker 4: We see each other.
- 1:21:32Speaker 6: It's crazy that it's crazy that as much as.
- 1:21:38Speaker 5: Like Cynthia as a friend of the show was so
- 1:21:40Speaker 5: much more relevant this season than some of the housewives
- 1:21:43Speaker 5: were in there the housewives. And that's what's like, she
- 1:21:46Speaker 5: she she deserves like she facilitated from a member of
- 1:21:50Speaker 5: out the Gate. We're praising her about how great she
- 1:21:52Speaker 5: was in that role, but then she became bigger than
- 1:21:54Speaker 5: in front.
- 1:21:55Speaker 4: Of the show.
- 1:21:55Speaker 5: She it's like almost you forgot, like it was like
- 1:21:57Speaker 5: she was more clocked in and locked in. Then some
- 1:22:01Speaker 5: of the housewives were sorry, call me here, I don't
- 1:22:03Speaker 5: give a fuck, y'all call me hat her.
- 1:22:05Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not.
- 1:22:07Speaker 10: It feels like when Michelle Obama comes out and we
- 1:22:09Speaker 10: can beg her to run for president, and she don't
- 1:22:10Speaker 10: want them to do with us. She just wants to
- 1:22:11Speaker 10: show up and say hi, Ki Bailly is a Michelle
- 1:22:14Speaker 10: Obama and America is Atlanta. Like I just came to
- 1:22:17Speaker 10: say hi, y'all. I'm not trying to say we love
- 1:22:19Speaker 10: her so much want to she don't want to know.
- 1:22:23Speaker 10: Cynthia's great. Cynthia's great, and once again God's great season.
- 1:22:27Speaker 10: And I want to say this not that I give
- 1:22:28Speaker 10: a ship to give a disclaimer. The Beauty of Mother
- 1:22:31Speaker 10: and I lie that clearly, you guys love because we're
- 1:22:34Speaker 10: seeing the numbers here. I love the fact that we
- 1:22:38Speaker 10: only stick with what we're watching on the show.
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: Right and listen, there's tons of people who recap the shows,
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: and I love all the people, right, But what I
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: will say, the Beauty of Mother and I lie. We
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: stick with the show. We know we know so much
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: shit about everything that I love the fact that we
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: don't try to bring in outside influences things, things we
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: may know by talking to people.
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: You guys should really appreciate the fact that we are.
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: Literally sticking to what we watch on the show, and
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: that's the beauty of us, and the beauty of the
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: four of us is as you saw tonight, we had
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: a lot of disagreements, but it was respectful disagreement and
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: we love the point of view like we always do.
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: And but I just want to say, I love That's
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: why I love doing this with you guys, because we
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: definitely do a good job at that. And the beauty is,
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: the beauty is things can change in the next episode.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: That's why you should never feel comfortable like I'm the
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: fan favorite, I'm this, I'm that Every episode showed us
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: something a little bit more about these women that were
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: able to talk about. So I want to say, yeah, wonderful.
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: All right, so listen, Blue, Claudia and Dustin. I will
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: see you guys next week. Make sure to watch the
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: Real House Spots of Atlanta every Sunday the next day
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: on Peacock as well.
- 1:23:57Speaker 9: I love you, guys, Love y'all.
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with The Lack
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore