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The Late Debate | 18 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debase.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James
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  Speaker 1: Macpherson with Free Leitch and Caleb Vond coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Former Prime Minister John Howard reveals his greatest regret, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not being beaten in an election by Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 1: at something far more embarrassing than that. Plus, when we
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  Speaker 1: get to the papers, Jim Chalmers sets his sights on
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  Speaker 1: tax reform, which we all know means tax increases. The
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  Speaker 1: Australian covers that well tomorrow. Plus good news for childless
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  Speaker 1: couples with one state offering two thousand dollars towards IVF treatment.
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  Speaker 1: All of that shortly, but first, Anthony Albanezi is fast
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  Speaker 1: becoming that klingy X who mysteriously always shows up at
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  Speaker 1: your favorite cafe just accidentally muttering about how it's good
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  Speaker 1: to bump into each other. Except the object of the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister's affection is not an old flame. No, it's
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  Speaker 1: US President Donald Trump. Having been ghosted at the G
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  Speaker 1: seven when Trump had to cancel a scheduled twenty minute
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  Speaker 1: coffee meeting, Anthony Albanese is now planning to deliberately bump
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  Speaker 1: into Donald Trump at the Hague when NATO meets next week.
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  Speaker 3: The decision that he made that meant that the meetings
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  Speaker 3: that were scheduled not just with myself but with India, Ukraine,
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  Speaker 3: including President Zelenski, Mexico and other countries didn't go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Today it's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Alyes potentionally zero.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's been considered now. Of course, if Albaneze can't
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  Speaker 1: catch Donald Trump's eye at the Hague, he'll try again
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  Speaker 1: in September at the United Nations meeting. And if that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work, I suspect Albaneze will take two hiding in
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  Speaker 1: the bushes at mary Lago and whispering Donald Donald. It's
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  Speaker 1: me Anthony from the G seven, Caleb. I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: thought that stalking is really an appropriate alliance strategy, but
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  Speaker 1: that's what it's starting to look like. He's like a groupie.
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  Speaker 1: He's looking at the two dates, trying to catch up
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  Speaker 1: with his favorite people.
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  Speaker 5: Well, with the specificity with which you described the situation
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  Speaker 5: of running into the X in the cafe, I'm wondering
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  Speaker 5: whether you've had one of these encounters yourself, James.
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  Speaker 2: Or whether in fact you were the stalker. Would you
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  Speaker 2: care to tell.
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  Speaker 1: Us nothing in comparison to Anti Albanesi.
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  Speaker 5: Well done, any country, he dodged that one. He dodged
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  Speaker 5: that one. I mean, for goodness sake, he's already in
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  Speaker 5: the region. He's in Canada, where, of course he was
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  Speaker 5: hoping to meet Donald Trump. So why can't he get
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  Speaker 5: on the blower and organize a meeting at the White
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  Speaker 5: House while he's over there, Like, you know, Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 5: not going anywhere at the moment. He's not about fly
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  Speaker 5: it's about the fly planes himself into Iran. He is
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  Speaker 5: in the United States, so why can't he just pop
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  Speaker 5: over the border down south, go and say hello to
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  Speaker 5: the president, unless, of course the President doesn't want to
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  Speaker 5: host him at the White House, which would be unusual
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  Speaker 5: because he's had everyone at the White House basically, or
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  Speaker 5: he is too scared to go to the White House
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  Speaker 5: because he doesn't want to be in Donald Trump's quarters
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  Speaker 5: where Donald Trump can control the conversation and of course
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  Speaker 5: can control the media conversation as he has done previously,
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  Speaker 5: particularly with President Zelenski and Silramoposa, etc. And this business
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  Speaker 5: you see there he's saying, oh, well, you know, he
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  Speaker 5: missed other meetings as well, and he cites specifically the
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  Speaker 5: Mexican president. Trump picked up the phone to the Mexican president.
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  Speaker 5: He also picked up the phone to a narentromoting from India.
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  Speaker 5: So he has taken the time to talk to other
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  Speaker 5: world leaders that he was meant to meet at the
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  Speaker 5: G seven and he didn't meet because he left early.
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  Speaker 5: And he hasn't done that for Anthony Albanesi. Part of it,
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  Speaker 5: I think is he's stringing it along as long as
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  Speaker 5: he can, as much as he can to scare Albanezi
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  Speaker 5: a little bit and make him feel like the bloke
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  Speaker 5: doesn't want to talk to him, so that when they're
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  Speaker 5: finally in a room together, maybe Alba will just fall
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  Speaker 5: over him, cave on stuff like military spending, et cetera,
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  Speaker 5: because you'll be so trepidacious about how this meeting is
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  Speaker 5: going to go because he's blown him off for so long.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: No, this is totally a negotiating tactic by Trump draw
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  Speaker 4: out the length of time till they can have their meeting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's already been nine months that Albanezi has
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  Speaker 4: not had a meeting, and so it is pretty shocking.
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  Speaker 4: But what is interesting is the different treatment that the
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  Speaker 4: UK is getting versus Australia at the G seven summit,
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  Speaker 4: even though Trump was there for barely twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 4: they still managed to sign a trade agreement which gave
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  Speaker 4: them tariff.
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  Speaker 6: Exemptions on some things.
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  Speaker 4: Yet Australia has experienced none of that, and part of
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  Speaker 4: that is because the UK has consistently met their defense
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  Speaker 4: spend targets two percent of GDP now Kis Starmer says
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  Speaker 4: they're going up to three percent, whereas in Australia, since
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  Speaker 4: Labor came into government, we haven't even spent.
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  Speaker 6: Two percent of GDP on defense.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't even reached that target, let alone the three
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  Speaker 4: point five percent that hag Seth wants a kiss.
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  Speaker 1: Darman did go to the White House too, kiss the ring,
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  Speaker 1: as it were.
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  Speaker 5: Chase.
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  Speaker 1: Something else from the G seven meeting that not many
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  Speaker 1: people picked up on, but there was this little exchange
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  Speaker 1: between Italian Prime Minister Georgio Mlani and Emanuel Macron. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure what's going on here, See if you can
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  Speaker 1: work it out. Nothing official yet.
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  Speaker 6: They haven't turned on the microphones, and sometimes you can
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  Speaker 6: pick something up in the side conversations, but.
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  Speaker 1: It looks a little bit like Macron's told her a
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  Speaker 1: joke or something like they talk about someone else and
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  Speaker 1: she's rolled her eyes or she's rolling her eyes at
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  Speaker 1: the French president.
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  Speaker 4: No, as woman's a woman, I know. That is the
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  Speaker 4: eye roll of a gossip session. They are definitely sitting
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  Speaker 4: there gossiping about someone else around that table, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: And to be honest, that's exactly how I would react
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  Speaker 4: if I were Trump and Albanezi rocked up at the
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  Speaker 4: White House, big eye roll.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't find a gossip session with Georgia Maloney to
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  Speaker 5: be perfect.
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  Speaker 2: She seems like a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: Apart from the fact that she's a good right wing
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  Speaker 5: leader over in Europe and cares about all the things
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  Speaker 5: that we hear about immigration, etc. The most recent polling
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  Speaker 5: shows that her party has increased its vote from when
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  Speaker 5: she won in twenty twenty two. Apart from all that,
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  Speaker 5: she just seems like the sort of person you'd want
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  Speaker 5: to hang out with. She's previously repudiated Joe Biden as
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  Speaker 5: well when he rocked up to a meeting late. And
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  Speaker 5: that's the kind of straight shooter I like. While we're
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  Speaker 5: talking about immigration staying in Europe in the United Kingdom
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  Speaker 5: three years ago or four years ago, three years ago, actually, sorry,
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  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, they had a review into, of course,
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  Speaker 5: the grooming gangs, which we've talked about many times here
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  Speaker 5: on this program that we're operating for decades in the
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  Speaker 5: United Kingdom, mostly made up of Pakistani men who were
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  Speaker 5: systematically grooming young girls in the United Kingdom for sexual abuse.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the major recommendations of this report in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two was that there should be a central
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  Speaker 5: database that has data on the ages, sexes, and ethnicities
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  Speaker 5: of both victims and perpetrators of child sexual abuse. It
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  Speaker 5: seems fair, particularly when you've had to deal with these
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  Speaker 5: grooming gangs, which, as I said, consisted mostly of Pakistani men.
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  Speaker 5: Clearly there was an issue in that community, and so
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  Speaker 5: the review says, we need a clear picture of who
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  Speaker 5: is perpetrating these crimes in this country and upon whom
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  Speaker 5: they are perpetrating them. Well, would you believe it the
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  Speaker 5: numbers that are being collected when they have a case
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  Speaker 5: of someone who is convicted of child sexual abuse, the
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  Speaker 5: numbers of them with which they actually have the ethnicity recorded,
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  Speaker 5: is declining. Funny about that, isn't it. Back in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 5: when they first started recording these numbers, there were only
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  Speaker 5: two hundred and forty eight cases where they did not
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  Speaker 5: take the ethnicity. Now twenty twenty four, which is the
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  Speaker 5: latest numbers you can see on the screen there, it's
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  Speaker 5: risen to more than one thousand. The number of cases
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  Speaker 5: for offenses on people under the age of sixteen where
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  Speaker 5: they don't record the ethnicity has gone from eighteen percent
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  Speaker 5: to thirty two percent. For the offensive sexual assault of
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  Speaker 5: a female child under thirteen, the number of offenders whose
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  Speaker 5: ethnicity was not recorded increased from twenty one percent to
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  Speaker 5: thirty four percent.
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  Speaker 2: And the ethnicity of.
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  Speaker 5: Criminals committing rape of a female child under thirteen recorded
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  Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen was twenty four percent and increased to
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  Speaker 5: thirty five percent last year. Now, you might recall in
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  Speaker 5: the last year or so the issue of grooming gang's
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  Speaker 5: has come back up again because of course the Prime
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  Speaker 5: Minister is Serkis Stamer, and he was a prosecutor at
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  Speaker 5: the time, the chief prosecutor at the time that many
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  Speaker 5: of these cases were being run. So it came back
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  Speaker 5: into the spotlight. And concurrently, it would seem they're running
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  Speaker 5: a mile from the idea of actually recording the ethnicities
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  Speaker 5: the major recommendation out of the report into these grooming gangs,
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  Speaker 5: and the only reason you can think of that they
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  Speaker 5: would be doing that is because they are worried of
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  Speaker 5: being called racist.
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  Speaker 1: And it's absolutely outrageous. First, it shows they've learned nothing
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  Speaker 1: from the inquiries into the grooming gangs, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: the thousands of young girls who were abused and at
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  Speaker 1: the time, no one wanted to talk about race, and
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  Speaker 1: so that empowered those men to carry on. So they've
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  Speaker 1: learned nothing and they're clearly avoiding ethnicity out of a
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  Speaker 1: misplaced sense of fairness. Kimmi Badnock told a story about
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  Speaker 1: how one mother complained that her child had been taken
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  Speaker 1: by Asian men, and the police immediately zeroed in on
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  Speaker 1: the mother's language, the use of Asian, and the conversation
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  Speaker 1: was all about her racism rather than about the fact
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  Speaker 1: her child was missing. So they've learned nothing. And of
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  Speaker 1: course these statistics colored just show that the public confidence
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  Speaker 1: is shattered, because why would you believe anything But it's
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  Speaker 1: a deliberate cover up. It makes the mistakes of the
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  Speaker 1: past more likely to be repeated, because you need that
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  Speaker 1: the ethnicity of offenders is relevant. It's relevant to see
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  Speaker 1: whether there are patterns where the public policy should be adjusted,
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  Speaker 1: where you should allocate resources and dare I say it
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  Speaker 1: might be relevant for immigration policy. But the thing that
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  Speaker 1: really caught my attention was they said the three reasons
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  Speaker 1: why they believe police were so reluctant to record ethnicity
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  Speaker 1: was they didn't want to be accused of racism, They
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to raise tensions, and they didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: upset community cohesion. If the community cohesion is so fragile
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  Speaker 1: that you can't list the ethnicity of a child abuser,
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  Speaker 1: then I would suggest you've got bigger problems even than
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  Speaker 1: the raping gangs. You've got a massive civil problem with
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  Speaker 1: cohesion exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And in two thirds of the grooming gang cases, the
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  Speaker 4: ethnicity of the perpetrators were not recorded and it meant
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  Speaker 4: it took them longer to actually establish what was happening,
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  Speaker 4: which is an absolute tragedy. You think about the thousands
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  Speaker 4: of lives that were wind and just because a few
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  Speaker 4: police didn't want to be accused of being racist, it's
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  Speaker 4: an abomination. But here in Australia we also don't record
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  Speaker 4: the ethnicity of criminals, which I think is also outrageous.
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  Speaker 4: We need to start recording that here in Australia because,
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  Speaker 4: as you mentioned, it is relevant for immigration policy. For example,
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  Speaker 4: Denmark in the early nineties took in about three hundred
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  Speaker 4: and twenty Palestinian refugees. Within thirty years, twenty two percent
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  Speaker 4: of them had received prison sentences. Meanwhile, we've just accepted
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  Speaker 4: three thousand Gazans on tourist.
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  Speaker 6: Visas with minimal vetting.
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  Speaker 4: If those trends are replicated, we've got a huge community
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  Speaker 4: crime problem that is going to occur here as well.
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  Speaker 6: It is relevant.
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  Speaker 4: It's not racist to point out the obvious, and it's
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  Speaker 4: not racist to say, hey, let's accept people into our
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  Speaker 4: country who share our values. That's about protecting all of
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  Speaker 4: us rather than protecting your feelings, and.
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  Speaker 2: They can inflating.
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  Speaker 5: I think in many cases race with culture, because it's
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily the race of someone that may dictate whether
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  Speaker 5: or not they are more predisposed to commit these kinds
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  Speaker 5: of crimes.
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  Speaker 2: It's culture.
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  Speaker 5: And we cannot get away from the fact that there
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  Speaker 5: are parts of the world where things like child marriages,
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  Speaker 5: child brides are accepted. There are parts of the world
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  Speaker 5: where female genital mutilation is accepted. It's not caused by
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  Speaker 5: their race. It's caused by their culture, the part of
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  Speaker 5: the world that they come from. Of course, of course
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  Speaker 5: ethnicity often informs that. And if we sit around and say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's their culture, so we can't possibly discuss
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  Speaker 5: whether or not that's good or bad or not, we
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  Speaker 5: do a disservice to people in Western countries. We cannot
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  Speaker 5: get away from the fact that there are other cultures
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  Speaker 5: that unfortunately have facets of them that are not compatible
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  Speaker 5: with us.
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  Speaker 4: Well, another area that seems to be having a few
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  Speaker 4: culture issues is the highly unionized train drivers of London.
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  Speaker 4: A train driver in London has been sacked after he
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  Speaker 4: was caught watching videos and knitting while driving a train.
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  Speaker 4: Keep in mind these drivers are paid seventy two thousand
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  Speaker 4: pounds a year. That's one hundred and fifty thousand Australian dollars.
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  Speaker 6: Check this out.
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  Speaker 1: Half of a train driver.
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  Speaker 4: Knit watching TV a couple of busay back to the
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  Speaker 4: year going drag whenever. Well, he's getting paid one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty grand a year to press a couple buttons
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  Speaker 4: while watching a video and doing his knitting.
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  Speaker 6: How is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, his colleagues needled him apparently over that, but
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  Speaker 1: as you expect, the union defended him because they're close enough.
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  Speaker 2: Bunch well done. I mean, look, if it's that, if it's.
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  Speaker 5: That easy to drive a train, I don't know why
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  Speaker 5: we're not all signing up for it. Because because when
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  Speaker 5: they were talking about the train drivers going on strike
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  Speaker 5: here in New South Wales, in Sydney, well, I mean
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  Speaker 5: some of them are on more than the equivalent that
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  Speaker 5: they're on one hundred and fifty odd k a year,
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  Speaker 5: even better than one hundred and fifty odd k a year.
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  Speaker 2: Forty three days of leave. So that's eight and.
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  Speaker 5: A half weeks of annual leave, which is extraordinary.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they have deals where they work
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  Speaker 5: through public holidays like I do. I even had a
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  Speaker 5: public holiday for years and so I get a few
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  Speaker 5: extra weeks of leave for that, but even then I
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  Speaker 5: only get an extra two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get extra four and a half weeks for it.
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  Speaker 5: There's also a case that came up today here in
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  Speaker 5: Australia of a train driver in Brisbane who went through
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  Speaker 5: a red light and their excuse for that was that
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  Speaker 5: they had a sneezing fit. So it seems it's all
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  Speaker 5: going on with the trains at the moment. And if
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  Speaker 5: you thought that was bad, how about Bill Shorten? Of course,
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  Speaker 5: you know he's left federal politics now after failing to
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  Speaker 5: do anything about the NDAs. He's gone off to run
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  Speaker 5: Australian National University and as the vice chancellor he seems
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  Speaker 5: to be well sacking staff and then making videos for Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: University of Canberra.
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  Speaker 5: I should say, not an you, what on earth is
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  Speaker 5: he doing? Like? Okay, we see this so often and
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  Speaker 5: Bill Shorten's not the first time. Bill Shortens started Remember
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  Speaker 5: during the twenty nineteen election campaign when he decided it
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: would be a good look to seem as though he
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: were exercising more, and so he donned his gear and
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: started going for runs. I think there was one particularly,
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  Speaker 5: I remember along near the Opera House there and he's
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: got the man boobs bobbing up and down and it's like, mate,
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  Speaker 5: you are trying too hard.
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  Speaker 2: What on earth is he He's on.
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  Speaker 5: Nearly a million dollars a year and he's making nonsensical
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  Speaker 5: Instagram videos.
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  Speaker 1: He went from doing nothing on four hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: in parliament to doing nothing on eight hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars at the University of Canberra, But the joke
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  Speaker 1: is on academics because of course typically academics all vote labor.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Shortens, the new vice chancellor, has got rid of
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  Speaker 1: what one hundred and fifty staff to save thirty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars while he makes TikTok videos and.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I am not anti fun TikTok. I must say
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  Speaker 4: that it can be done well. During the federal election,
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  Speaker 4: the Liberal Party did create some great social media content.
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  Speaker 6: But it has to be good like you can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I did say that wasn't good.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's so embarrassing. And also no one knows what
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  Speaker 4: it means. I am a gen z, I am a
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  Speaker 4: digital native and I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Even know what that means.
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  Speaker 4: It's incomprehensible. The caption was unlocked.
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  Speaker 6: A new character. Who's the character? Maybe Bill Shortens the character.
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  Speaker 1: The irony is as bad as that video from Bill
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  Speaker 1: Shorton was. It's not his worst performance on video. Have
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  Speaker 1: a look at this. Some of you will remember it.
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  Speaker 5: So I haven't seen what she said, but let me
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  Speaker 5: say I support what it is that she said.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on, you haven't seen what she said, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Support what my Prime minister said, so well, what's your view?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my view is what the Prime minister's view is.
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  Speaker 1: A stick to TikTok videos. I reckon. Here's the irony.
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  Speaker 1: While Bill Shorten is earning eight hundred and sixty thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year as the vice chancellor at the University
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  Speaker 1: of Canberra, the survey out today shows that nine million
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  Speaker 1: Australians or more have less than one thousand dollars savings
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  Speaker 1: in the bank. Of those nine million people, the average
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  Speaker 1: saving is about two hundred and fifteen dollars, which incidentally
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  Speaker 1: is about the average grocery shop in this country. All
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of which means it's about nine million ossies who if
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: they get an unexpected bill or God forbid a parking
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  Speaker 1: fine in the Northern Beaches, then they literally would be
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: in serious trouble, an incredibly precarious situation. This represents the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: massive disconnect between people like Bill Shorten, people like the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Reserve Bank governor who's on over a million dollars making
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: decisions about how Australians will live their lives, far removed
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: from the struggles of ordinary people. And then you've got
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: people like Jim Chalmers at the Press club today talking
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: about how the government's done a great job. Remember they
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: came to office promising to address cost of living, to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: raise living standards, and he was patting himself on the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: back at the Press Club, believing he had done a
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: great job when in actual fact, nine million Aussies less
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: than a thousand bucks in the bank.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it is obvious that most Australians are
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: doing it tough. The average savings, and of course average
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: takes you from the zero right through to the top
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: end of the tree. The average actually comes out to
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: forty three thousand dollars that people have in the bank.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: That clearly means there are lots of people with nothing
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: in the bank and quite a few people with a
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: lot of money in the bank. To draw that average up,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: it's the medians. Normally in these cases that will be
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: far more valuable, which will be much lower than forty
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: three thousand dollars. But notwithstanding the fact that we've had
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: a cost of living crisis, and clearly there are a
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: lot of people who are living hand to mouth week
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: to week, struggling to get by, I think it also
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: proves that we have a crisis of financial literacy in
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: this country. I mean, even if you are earning minimal money,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: you can find a way to save a little bit
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: of money, and you have to. I would argue you
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: absolutely have to, because I know how hard it can be.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: But you're doing yourself a disservice if you're not saving.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Even if it's ten dollars a week, just putting that
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: money aside for a rainy day is a very valuable
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: thing to do, and it would seem clear to me
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: that we're either not teaching people about that or we've
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: lost the idea, the value of the idea of saving.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, when I started as a cadet, and you
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: know you don't earn a lot a lot of money
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: as a cadet. As you well know, James, that you
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: would have been earning much lest when you started as
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: a cadet than when I started ten years ago. But
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I told myself I needed to have at least ten
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: grand in savings and at least two grand in my
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: spending account at all times.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And if I get below.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: That number, as I have once or twice, I get
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: genuinely anxious about it because I do think, what.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: If something happens now, how am I going to be
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: able to deal with I don't know how people are
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: living like this.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's not just even people who are saving.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Everyone is experiencing the cost of living crisis. We've had
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the worst decline in living standards in Australia's recorded history,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the worst decline in the OECD. Well, the rest of
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: the world is going forward, Australia is moving backwards. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the only reason we're not seeing mass outrage about this
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: is because the government has decided to import a whole
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: bunch of migrants to artificially prop up our economy. Meanwhile,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: the per capita rate of economic growth, which is what's
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: actually happening on an individual basis, has been going backwards,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: when backwards for twenty one months. Briefly in the last
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: quarter of last year we saw a tiny bit of
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: growth in GDP bo capita, and now again in the
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: first quarter of this year it's back into negative territory.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: This is simply unsustainable for Australians, but hey, that's the
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: price of a labor government. Another person who's going to
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: ruin an entire economy is one of the potential candidates.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: For the New York marialty.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: His name is Zorhan Mumdani, and he is a radical progressive.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: He calls himself a democratic socialist, and like any good lefty,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: he has no life experience. His entire policy platform consists
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: of wanting to tax billionaires and somehow create a utopia.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And he is extremely anti Israel so according to this article,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: in his whole time since graduating college he graduated in
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: twenty fourteen.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: And was elected to the New York State Assembly in.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Twenty twenty, he was only actually employed for three years,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and basically his whole life he's lived in subsidized housing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Some of the careers he's chosen have been rather interesting.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: One was his failed attempt to become a rapper.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: Check this out.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: For you.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I'm go ahead, make a rap for your nanni.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I'll get.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Through.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: We'll give adapt to your nanny if you. Villain has
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: been a track.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: For your nanny.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: He is only a couple points behind Andrew Como. He
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: was the former governor of New York and he's the
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Democratic Party's establishment pick for the mayor. But in the
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: primaries he's only a couple points behind. And it's pretty
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: remarkable because within a couple of months, thanks to the
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: endorsement of Alexandria Occasio Cortez, another one of these really
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: radical Democrats. He search from polling just one percent to
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: now potentially being able to win the primary. Obviously, if
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: you win the endorsement of the Democrats, you're going to
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: win the mayalty, and so New York could potentially have
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a failed rapper with zero life experience. He wants to
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: tax everyone and hates Israel as their mayor.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're complaining about this.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: This bloke was employed for four years, and by my count,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Alberizi, has only been
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: employed outside of politics for two years in his entire life.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: So this bloke has twice as much experience in the
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: private sector as our prime minister does. He seems eminently
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: qualified to me. I mean, to be perfectly honest. This
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: is pretty typical of almost everyone in politics these days.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Obviously in the United States it's often slightly different because
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: they get paid a lot less. Over the often have
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: people who've spent a life in business or whatever before
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: they go into politics, simply because you can't really afford
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: to go into politics without having some money behind you already.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But in Australia.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: This is the pipeline to politics for most people is
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: you go to university, you get involved in student politics. Paris,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: if you have been involved in student policy, you'll be
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: banned from being involved in politics. As there are some
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: accepting people are there are some exceptions, but you end
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: up with people who are more interested in the politics
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: of politics than the results of politics.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: They do that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: They leave Uni, they go and work in a staffing
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: job in someone's office, then they get into a ministerial office,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: and then they run for politics. They've never had any
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: real life experience. This guy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: In the five years he's been in local government in
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: New York, he's missed fifty percent of the votes that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: council has taken. He's got just three bills up, one
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of which was free busses, which is one of his policies.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: See if these sound familiar. He's going for free childcare,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: free busses, government run grow ghost three stores. And how's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: he going to pay for all this? He's going to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: make ten billion dollars by you guessed, at taxing the rich.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: He's never run anything before, a little alone, a city
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of eight million people, and yet this is how the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: New York Times described him. They said, he's a charismatic
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: thirty three year old running a joyful campaign full of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: viral videos. He offers the kind of fresh political style
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: for which many are hungry during the angry era of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: President Trump. That's quite the glowing endorsement. The New York Times,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I should say, then went on to say, don't vote
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for again.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Be a disaster.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But as he said, Frey, he's coming second, which is
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. Tell you something else that is incredible, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that is Martina Navradlova's memory. Remember Martina, brilliant tennis player
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties. She's lived in America since
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: she was eighteen years old, having sought asylum there when
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: she was eighteen. During the nineteen seventy five seventy six
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: US Open she defected because, of course, who would want
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to live in our homeland of Czechoslovakia, which was then
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: run by the Soviets. It was a place where your
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: phones were tapped, your mail was read. You required a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: permit just go from one part of the country to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: another part of the country. So she's done quite well
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: for herself in the United States. But she's told media
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: today that she wouldn't have left Czechoslovakia had she known
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump was going to be the president. She said,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not loyal to Donald Trump. If I were now
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: still in that same position as in nineteen seventy five
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: in Czechoslovakia and I had to go live somewhere, it
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: would not be America because it's not a democracy at
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the moment. I mean, people are getting chucked out by
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Homeland Security. Who would those people be. They'd be illegal aliens.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: They're getting chucked out because they're not on board completely
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: with Donald Trump's agender or have a valid visa because
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: they're not kissing the ring. She said, I reckon when
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you say that a former TV are making nasty tweets
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is worse than a Soviet backed regime where they crushed
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the scent, jailed dissidents, turned neighbour against neighbor. I'd say,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: she's not just good at tennise. He's pretty good at gymnastics.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I would have thought that's quite the mental maneuver.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I think she's rather lost sight of what she left
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: and why she moved to the United States. I mean,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: the election of Donald Trump, the existence of Donald Trump
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: as president is proof of why she moved to the
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: United States.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It is democracy in action.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: People chose Donald Trump, and they chose the policies he
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: stands for, including.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Getting rid of illegal immigrants.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, the US welcomed Martine and avrattlover with open arms,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: and they continue to welcome with open arms people who
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: want to move.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Legally to the United States. And I wish I'd thought
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: of this here.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know whether either of you saw the clip
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: of Arnold Schwarzenegger on the View overnight where they tried
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: to stitch him up on this issue of people being deported,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: and he went on a long spiel about how he's
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: a margaret and he thinks that if you're a migrant
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: in the United States, you should be grateful for what
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: you've been given and you should pay it back. Now,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Ratlov should be doing exactly the same thing. She is
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: biting the hand that has fed her. She is partially
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: right about people not being allowed into the United States,
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: potentially because they've disagreed with Donald Trump. There have been
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: reports of people having their phones gone through when they've
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: tried to go for holidays and stuff and being sent
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: back whence they came, So that is kind of legitimate.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: But to say that, oh, I couldn't go to the
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: United States now because it's not a democracy.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, what does she think a democracy is?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: The very fact that she's able to get into the
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: media and openly criticize Donald Trump is proof that America
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: is not a totalitarian state. If she tried criticizing the
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: communist regime in the seventies in Czechoslovakia, I don't think
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: she would have been so free to do so. In fact,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: when she affected to the US, her family that was
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: still in the Czech Republic or the Soviet controlled Czechoslovakia
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: were unable to even speak about her publicly.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: Like that was the level of censorship.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I think it's rather insulting to the millions of victims
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: of communist repression that she's now trying to draw a
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: parallel between the two.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I read those comments and thought she has strung
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: her racket a little too tight.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: I think exactly right.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Look, there is a really controversial Christmas Day party that
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: happens every year. Last year, fifteen thousand backpackers descended onto
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Bronti Beach for a Christmas of Orphans, as they like
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: to call it. It was all happy and fun as
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: you can imagine, fifteen thousand young backpackers would be. But
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: the only problem was when they went to clean up,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: they caused about sixty thousand dollars worth of cleaning up
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: and there were a whole bunch of issues with disturb
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Locals were naturally rather unhappy about the whole affair, so
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Waverley Council was petitioned by locals to crack down on
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: the revelers and the party goers, either by banning it,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: by making it a ticketed event, or somehow doing something
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: to mitigate the damage. Waverley Council has decided to let
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the party proceed.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Oh they're not going to listen to rappayers, No.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: They want those European backpack is trashing their beach and
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: they will, however, add bins and extra police. I personally
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: think Sydney's nightlife has been destroyed.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: It's a very unfun city.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: A lot of councils are literally the bastion of the
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: anti fun police.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: So good on the Waverley Council.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Those images on the screen that was not fun, That
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: was anarchy, and it's not nightlife. That was Christmas Day
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and it's not in the CBD where no one lives.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: This is in people's local area, and what are the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: council done? We have more toilets, Well you should have
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: had that last year when fifteen thousand people turned up.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: We'll have security. Might have been a good idea to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: have that last year. We'll put on more transport. So
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people last year without transport, there'll be more
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: people this year. And the classic part of it was
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Mayor will Nemesh said, we're not sure whether these changes
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: will make any difference. I guess we'll wait and find out. Well,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: there's a council that loves the local ratepayers.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: But what are you proposing we put up for the
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: event we go all Donald Trump and put up a
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: great big wall and say you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Not, that's bad idea you would that wouldn't show and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: people ten dollars entry at least that might cover the sixty.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Ten dollars sorry, ten dollars entry, ten dollars entry to
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: go to a public beach.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is a sacred right in Australia. This
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: is a sacred right in Australia.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: No, no sort of sacred right to trash the joint
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I agree with that, but it is a sacred right
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: in Australia to use public beaches. Public beaches are there
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: for the benefit of the public. Don't fence them off
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: and start telling people they can't go.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: They fence it off, charge and entry fee to cover
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the cost of cleaning up the absolute garbage that is
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: left there, that you yourself fed. It's an absolute like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: war zone. Someone's got a why should locals pay for it?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I did verbal you a little bit better.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: You did a little bit.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: But if you start doing that at Bronzy, guess what,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: They're just going to move to Clavelli or up the
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: road to Bundai. And the reality is the backpackers are here.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Backpackers contribute a lot to our economy and they need
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: somewhere to go On Christmas Day, something tells me it's
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: not going to be church. If it's not that it's good,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: they're still celebrating by hitting the.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Beach and the local furious.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: It's no coincidence that James lives in Castle Hill, because
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I think that's exactly what he would like to do.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: He would like to build a car rawbridge up.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: There'd be crocodiles in the moat and everything would be.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Bus goodness sake, anyway, before we get to the break,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: and we'll talk a little more about this after the breakers,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: we haven't got much time.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: We'll expand upon.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: But of course you would have seen the movements overnight
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: speaking of war zones in Iran. The latest, of course
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: now that the United States is talking about sending their buster,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: their bunker busting So it's a terrible thing to try
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: to get your tenge around.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Bunker busting bombs into Iran.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: They have to go naeti meters underground to destroy the
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: most hidden parts of their nuclear armory over there. That
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: has been the greatest impediment to stopping them at the
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: moment from building a nuclear bomb. Of course, we know
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Israel has been attacking what they can get to above ground,
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: but the serious stuff is underground.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: The United States holds the key to that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: It would seem that Trump is now willing to send
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: that over there so Israel will be able to use
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: it to Another story that came out overnight was that Mossad,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: of course, the intelligence agency in Israel, had been gathering
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: intelligence that they thought it was building up, the likelihood
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: was building up that Iran was about to create an
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: atomic bomb.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: They were worried the United States.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Sorry, disagreed with that in the first instance, and was
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: not sure that they were that far along. It doesn't
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: seem to matter that United States have come along anyway.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: And the tweets and whatever that were put out overnight
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: by the Iranian military and we haven't seen yet what
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: they're referring to, but saying that they're about to do
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: something that will be remembered for generations.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Where is this going.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I think what they're about to do is they're about
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to have their nuclear facilities exploded, because Trump is hinting
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that the US will get involved, not with boots on
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the ground, but they've got the only bombs that are
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: capable of once and for all dealing with Iran's nuclear
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: program because if they don't do it now, they will
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: be back here in five years, in ten years. So
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: now's the opportunity you might as well do it. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Trump's giving every indication he will supply whatever the Israelis need,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: perhaps even the planes and the bombs to do the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: final job.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: One of the frustrating things watching this conflict unfold have
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: been the Kooki Maga supporters like Taker Carlson and Candiso
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: and saying, oh see Natanya, who's been saying Iran was
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: developing a nuclear bomb for like the last twenty years,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: and see US intelligence didn't believe.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: It, blah blah blah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: But they don't realize Israel has been actively preventing Iran
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: from developing a nuclear bomb through covert operations for the
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: last twenty years, hacking into their internal systems, doing stealth
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: attacks on nuclear facilities. And this is their one opportunity
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: to destroy the Iotoler regime once and for all and
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: cut off the head of Tara.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, there's more about that in tomorrow's papers. We'll take
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a look at them in just a moment. Well, the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: queens And newspapers wasted no time. Their front pages are
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: already available celebrating their torific Origin win in Perth tonight.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: The Courier Males headline reads Morons triumph in Origin classic
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Cam's Heroes, referring of course, to Cameron Munster, who was
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: in his first game as captain tonight, leading Queensland to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a twenty six twenty four victory against New South Wales.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: The Cam's post, similarly celebrating Moron magic Mighty Morons claims
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: stunning origin win that makes the series one all, Caleb,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I know you love your AFL, but you'd be into
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the rugby league as well. So the final I think
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: is played in Brisbane. I think at lang Park.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: You are asking a wrong person.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Go the Queenslanders.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would say that, would you would say that?
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I reckon they should bring back AFIL state of origin.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: I've said this and written about it many times because
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: he says go Queensland. He did live up there, but
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: he's originally from Victoria. Story, what hell you doing calling
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: yourself at Queensland and anyway, but I'd like to see
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: AFL state of origin back so you and I can
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: go out and have a night at the footy South
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Australia versus Victoria. That'd be some real stuff, wouldn't it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the front of the odds tomorrow where
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: it says Charmers moment of truth, the charmer being Jim Charmers,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: of course, not an actual charmer. Jim Charmers has declared
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: tax reform is needed to fund growing spending on defense
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: and the care economy, while warning that traditional revenue streams
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: will be threatened.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: By the net zero transition.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: As he left the door open to raising the gst,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: increasing levies on resources, and charging electric car drivers for
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: using roads. But his call for a new era of
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: consensus is not extending to the proposed tax on unrealized
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: capital gains on high value superannuation funds, as he bound
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: to push ahead with the policy Labour took to the
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: election despite it being widely panned by economists and business leaders. Now,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: as much as it sounds awful to hear the words
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: higher taxes, I should note he is talking about chain
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: ringing the tax base, broadening the tax base, so it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: not necessarily just lack taxes up and everyone pays more tax.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: What he's aiming for, and I think this is a.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Noble goal, is to eventually reduce the reliance on income
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: tax and find other ways of raising tax revenue. There's
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: not been any genuine tax reform in this country for
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: a very long time. Whether or not his idea of
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: tax reform turns out to be the best one, who knows.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: But I'm at least glad to see someone for the
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: first time in a long time talking about tax reform.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: A love of the fact he's talking about. You know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: where we're going to get consensus. We've got plenty of courage.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: We just need consensus to make all these changes. And
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: then he's asked, of course, about the most controversial tax,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the unrealized capital gains tax, which everybody has panned, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he says, no, no, that's definitely happening. So he says,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: consensus is really important, but he's got consensus, that's a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: bad tax, and he's ignoring the consensus and doing what
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: he wants.
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  Speaker 4: We also know whenever a politician says we're going to
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: build consensus, that's code for we're not going to demonstrate
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: any leadership. Because leadership often requires making the hard decisions.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: The hard decisions rarely have consensus or widespread support. Initially,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: think about when the GSD did come in, it was
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: incredibly difficult to build consensus around that. Obviously, twenty five
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: years later we all think it's great. But whenever a
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: politician says consensus, always be a little bit skeptical.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Indeed, another story on the front of the Olds tomorrow,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: as we were talking about before the break, I tooler
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Reddy's for a violent end the war in around Risks
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: sorry spiraling into a devastating regional conflict now for the country.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Supreme Leader issued a rallying call to his people, and
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump edged closer to green lighting direct US strikes
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: to destroy Teyran's nuclear program once, end for all. And
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: this is the other part of it as well, is
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: that Trump has said, you know, we're going to sassinate
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: you if we wanted to, but we're not going to
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: do it just yet. One wonders whether the time comes
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: that he does.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Pull the pin.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: But the other interesting thing in this article that refers
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to a tweet that was put out by the Iatola
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: referencing or referring to himself essentially as a personification of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the successor to Mohammed And it's just a reminder that
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Penny one was all about, we need to de escalate,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: we need to dialogue. For the Iranians, the destructure of
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Israel is a divine mission. This is not about simply politics.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: It's not about land. Essentially, it's a religious mission that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they have themselves on and you can't negotiate with people
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: like that. And looks like Trump and the Israelis have
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: decided that is indeed the case, and that's.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Why diplomacy will never work, because you're not dealing with
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: rational actors.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: It's actually part of their religious worldview.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: The graphic he posted of was in reference to the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Kaibar massacre of Jews, and he's essentially saying, we're going
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: to repeat this. That was when hundreds of Jews were slaughtered.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: So it's really distressing and this is the one chance
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: they have to take out the regime. I personally think
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: they shouldn't assassinate the Ayatola. They should let him watch
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  Speaker 4: his regime crumble before his eyes and then put him
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: on trial and lock him away for the rest of
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: his life.
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  Speaker 5: And of course the other thing is well is if
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: you take a leader out, you've got to know what
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: your next move is.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: It is extreme.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: We see precisely how many times have we interfeed in
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: the Middle East and just basically given it all back
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: to the maninsa IE, Afghanistan and the Taliban. So if
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: you're going to make those serious moves, you've got to
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: know what's going to happen.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing though. The Iranian people on the
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: whole do not support the regime and so it could
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: be interesting to see whether the Shah will come back.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: He's made a lot of moves on social media him
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: think he might if he gets support, so stay tuned
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: Moving on to the Herald Sun.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Now, a shocking, shocking case drive through madness. A brazen
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: car thief was last night on the run after putting shoppers'
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: lives at risks by barreling through Northland Shopping Center in
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: a stolen four wheeled four wheel drive in a bid.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: To evade pursuing police.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: A mother and a child were forced to jump out
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: of the way of the speeding vehicle, which came within
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: meters of the other terrified shoppers. So this car to
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: evade police literally drove straight through this center of the
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: shopping center. Now, interestingly, this happened at Northland Shopping Center.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: This is also where the machette incident happened a couple
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: of weeks ago. I mean, one, what is going on
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: in Victoria, but specifically Northland Shopping Center seems to be
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: a bit of a hotbed at the moment.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I think we know what will happen after the machete
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: incident at that shopping center. Just into Ellen banned machetes,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I expect to morroshe'll announced a ban on cruises.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Land cruisers driving through shopping centers in particular.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Well, well, now it has to be all Land cruises
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: because of because it wasn't a ban on machetes at Northland.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: This was a band on machetes entirely because of course,
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: that stops crying. But what goes through your head, like
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: it's one thing, Okay, I've stolen the car.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: That was a bit dumb.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: The coppers are on mbum new out. Okay, I'm in
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: a bit of trouble.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But at what point do you go.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I'm now going to risk life and limb and other
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: people's life and limb, which will get me into far
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: more trouble than I ever will for being picked up
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: for stealing a car. What possesses you to drive through
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: what could have been a packed shopping center to evade police,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: You're asking for trouble.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a bit of a culture in Victoria
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: of do what you want and damn the consequences, because
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: oftentimes there are no consequences. Let's go to the front
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: page of Hobart's Mercury newspaper, two thousand dollars help towards
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: IVF reads the headline. Women seeking help to have a
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: child will be given greater financial support under an election
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: promise to be announced on Thursday by the Liberals, the
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: state government will pay two thousand dollars towards the cost
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: of in vitro fertilization if we elected at next month's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: state election. A similar grant is already available to women
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: in New South Wales. Anything that helps and encourages people
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to have more children is a great idea. I wish
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: they put money towards families are trying to adopt kids.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: That'll be a worthy cause as well. But anyway, for
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: people trying for IVF an incredibly expensive process. Two thousand dollars,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: as I understand, is a drop in the bucket, but
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: it's something, and I guess all helpers appreciates.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: It's a good point. They could also do another baby bonus.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I suppose.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: I suppose they figured this is a way to do
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: it without spending as much money, because if they had
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: a baby bonus, they may have to paid a lot more. Now,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: the story on the front of the advertiser, it's our
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: interesting one. This housing fix that's out of the box,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: and I keel like solution to the housing crisis is
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: being pushed by Premier Peter Malanowskis as he unveils a
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: plan to roll out prefabricated homes in essay announcing a
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: tender for one hundred and twenty properties in a pilot projects.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Mister melanowskis so.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: It was an innovative way to deliver more houses faster
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: amid a chronic shortage of homes and tradees falls. Walls,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: roof panels and other key components will be manufactured off
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: site before being assembled at locations across the state in
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: a scheme expected to launch in July. I know we
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: have a housing crisis and people are desperate for homes,
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: and this may well be an easy fix. But as
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: I often ask, when we talk about these things, we
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: slap up here, there and everywhere, who actually wants to
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: live in these? I know that you need somewhere to live,
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: and so you'll take anywhere to live, But long term,
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: who really wants to live in this?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And that's basically a kid home. We've seen these before.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: John Howard reveals his most embarrassing his worst moment as
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Prime minister. It's probably not what you think will show you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: In just a segment we former Prime Minister John Howard
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: was speaking at the Intercontinental in Sydney before business leaders
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: when he was asked what was his biggest regret all
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of his years in politics? And I suppose that long
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: in politics you'd have a few and people expected him
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to probably say, you know, maybe being involved in the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Iraq War, or work choices policy, or maybe losing to
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Kevin Rudd. But none of that was anywhere near as
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: embarrassing as his biggest regret, and that is bowling a
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: couple of medium paced deliveries when he was in Pakistan.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Everyone remembers when he was convinced to bowl a ball
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: at a willing batsman there, and that is an absolute
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: time that he has a bowl and that's is his
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: biggest regret in all those politics. That was the moment
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: he wishes he could have back.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: I can fully understand why that is his biggest regret,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: because what could be more embarrassing than lining up for
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: a good bowl and you just absolutely spray it like that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, it reminds if someone filmed me when I
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: gave cricket a go year four, that's something what it
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: would look like. I mean, that was the point when
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: I decided, now I'm just going to go and watch
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: the cricket and drink beer. I'm not going to give
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: it a go playing it. But you know, I don't
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: know what's what's your sporting prowess?
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Like James, I was all right with a cricket ball,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: but better with a tennis ball. Used to take half
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of it and get the Yeah, I was lethal with that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well you could always use sandpaper, couldn't you.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: We won't go Lily now. Very strange story.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know why she's decided to come out and
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: tell this now because it all happened back in the nineties,
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: But anyway, it's a warning to people not to go
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: and marry people in Kenya on a whim. Essentially, this woman,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: who at thirty four years old in nineteen ninety four,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: was already onto her second husband, took a package holiday
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: to Kenya and fell in love with a Massi warrior
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: who was ten years her junior while she was over there,
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: so she ditched the second husband, shacked up with this fella,
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: took him back to the Isle of Wight where she
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: was living. They got married, and she now says, all
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: these years later that I felt like I was just
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: a meal ticket. I made a huge mistake and I
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: have a lot of regrets. Their marriage only lasted four years.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Clearly she's been carrying this for some time, because she's
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: now decided to tell the Daily Mail about her great
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: regret in life was to choose a third husband on
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: a package holiday in Kenya. If that's the base she
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: did in mud Hut with the dude by the way,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, if you're making decisions like that, you
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: got problems.
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: It is so so bizarre.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: So viewers be warned, watch out next time you're in
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: don't ma, don't marry a Kenyan toy boy. Look, in tragedies,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: oftentimes heroes, chivalrous people, they come to the rescue. In Israel,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: they're obviously going through a very difficult time at the moment,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: and the heartthrob of the Holy Land was there to
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: save the day. He is a very well built six
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: foot two Israeli man who was, as you can see
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: on the left there in shorts, with a gun strapped
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: to his belt and absolutely nothing else. He ran up
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: to this couple's apartment that was about about to collapse
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: because it had been bombed by Iran in there, and
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: he kicked down the bolted door with his I can't
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: take this.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: Story what's wrong.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: It's almost like you want to go to Israel. You
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: can be caught up in the war and be rescued
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: by this guy. It's time tomorrow.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: There's rarey women with big knockers.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: That's all from us stick around. Coming up is the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Reader Penny Show. We'll take care of fray I go,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: She'll be all right.