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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Imagine someone taking your mother hostage,
- 0:19Speaker 1: assaulting her, beating her, raping her the whole time you
- 0:24Speaker 1: fear for her life, and the whole time you blame yourself.
- 0:31Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace and this is Crime Stories. Thank you
- 0:33Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and series
- 0:36Speaker 1: x M one eleven. Listen to this Watering and Falk
- 0:42Speaker 1: and some Day out of Cards, Insuring a Culture Melby
- 0:50Speaker 1: and just back from my car, it's wagging from I'm
- 0:57Speaker 1: egally it's a blue looks like an arm play. Can't
- 1:02Speaker 1: be sure though, Chilaquargetty training at the license plate or
- 1:11Speaker 1: like kl h M thirty two at the Dark Dark
- 1:16Speaker 1: play as if an attacker would grab a woman at
- 1:22Speaker 1: Walgreens and fight with her in public the whole time
- 1:29Speaker 1: her hands are tied and she's screaming for help. What
- 1:34Speaker 1: will he do when he gets her alone behind closed doors?
- 1:39Speaker 1: Listen At about nine o five last night, over on
- 1:43Speaker 1: Fishhog near the Wall Greens, witnesses saw what appeared to
- 1:47Speaker 1: be a female with her hands tied behind her back.
- 1:50Speaker 1: She was screaming for help. They then saw her being
- 1:54Speaker 1: forced back into a vehicle by a male male put
- 1:58Speaker 1: the seatbelt acrossed her, and then they took off. When
- 2:01Speaker 1: the witnesses reported it, they had a good tag number.
- 2:04Speaker 1: There was surveillance at the Walgreens. Okay, I just heard
- 2:07Speaker 1: something very interesting. So he's kidnapping the woman at this Walgreens. Brazen,
- 2:14Speaker 1: arrogant people are seeing what's happening. He's not even doing
- 2:19Speaker 1: it secretly. She's screaming her head off, her hands are
- 2:24Speaker 1: tied or handcuffed or zip tied. He's really not making
- 2:28Speaker 1: a secret about throws her into the car, but then
- 2:33Speaker 1: he puts the seatbelt over her. Does anybody see the
- 2:39Speaker 1: dichotomy between those actions and then the putting the seatbelt
- 2:44Speaker 1: across her chest? With me an all star panel to
- 2:47Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now. But first
- 2:49Speaker 1: I want to go to Gloria Gomas, court reporter with
- 2:51Speaker 1: Fox thirteen in Tampa Bay. Gloria Gomez, thank you for
- 2:55Speaker 1: being with us. Where is Walgreens and Fish Shawl? Where
- 2:58Speaker 1: is that? That's in the Tampa Bay area and it's
- 3:02Speaker 1: a little suburb of Tampa and very very populated. I
- 3:07Speaker 1: mean a lot of people in that community. It's a
- 3:10Speaker 1: growing family community, family community. Okay, That's what I was wondering,
- 3:15Speaker 1: is this inner city is at a rural area where
- 3:18Speaker 1: you drive like I had to do growing up, We
- 3:20Speaker 1: have twenty five minutes just to get to a McDonald's
- 3:24Speaker 1: or was it a suburb But you're saying a family,
- 3:27Speaker 1: suburban type setting. It's a growing suburb community outside of Tampa.
- 3:32Speaker 1: How far from Tampa? I would say about twenty five
- 3:35Speaker 1: minutes from Tampa. So a lot of people probably work
- 3:37Speaker 1: in Tampa and they live there exactly, So that's very unusual.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Just off the cuff to Greg Smith joining us, Special
- 3:44Speaker 1: Deputy Sheriff of Johnson County Sheriff's Office, the executive directs
- 3:49Speaker 1: of Kelsey Smith Foundation. You can find him at Kelsey's
- 3:52Speaker 1: Army dot com. Greg, thanks for being with us. The
- 3:55Speaker 1: reason I'm asking is because we expect kidnapping, arm kidnappings,
- 4:01Speaker 1: people zip tied and thrown into cars in big cities
- 4:04Speaker 1: like you know, Detroit, La Atlanta, inter City Atlanta, Chicago.
- 4:11Speaker 1: But really a bedroom community outside of Tampa, Tampa Bay
- 4:17Speaker 1: that kind of defies statistics. Right, Well, yes and no.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I mean my daughter's kidnapping happened in over In Park, Kansas,
- 4:25Speaker 1: a suburb of Kansas City, Missouri, and there was. That
- 4:30Speaker 1: was the only abduction that took place in the county
- 4:32Speaker 1: that year. So they can happen anywhere. Are they statistically
- 4:36Speaker 1: more likely to happen in big cities? Yes, sure you know,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Greg Smith, you just stated so perfectly one of my
- 4:44Speaker 1: messages I try to get out all the time. You
- 4:47Speaker 1: think crime is not going to enter your world. It
- 4:51Speaker 1: can and it will. It doesn't matter what color you are,
- 4:56Speaker 1: your origins, where you're from, whether you've got a PA
- 5:00Speaker 1: or you dropped out of school in third grade, It
- 5:03Speaker 1: doesn't matter because crime can find you no matter where
- 5:07Speaker 1: you are, even in this suburban community outside beautiful Tampa Bay.
- 5:13Speaker 1: So let me go back to Gloria Gomez, court reporter,
- 5:16Speaker 1: Fox thirteen, Tampa Bay. Gloria, describe what we know about
- 5:22Speaker 1: the kidnap itself. You were hearing someone a callmate made
- 5:27Speaker 1: by Randall Crosby, calling nine one one when he saw
- 5:32Speaker 1: what was happening. What exactly did Crosby c He saw
- 5:36Speaker 1: a woman getting out of a car with her hands tied,
- 5:41Speaker 1: struggling to get out, yelling for help, and suddenly she
- 5:45Speaker 1: sees a man coming out of a store, grabs her,
- 5:49Speaker 1: throws her in the backseat, of the car, gets her
- 5:51Speaker 1: in the car and takes off with her. That's what
- 5:54Speaker 1: he saw as he was working at the Walgreens that
- 5:56Speaker 1: day and immediately he called nine one one, Ah got it.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So he was working there, so he was looking through
- 6:02Speaker 1: the glass. And what time of the day or night
- 6:05Speaker 1: was this? I believe it was in the early morning hours.
- 6:07Speaker 1: When you say early morning hours, do you mean like
- 6:10Speaker 1: seven am when people are getting ready to go to
- 6:12Speaker 1: work and they're just hitting the road with their coffee.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Are you talking about one or two am? In the
- 6:16Speaker 1: middle of the night. I believe it was in the
- 6:17Speaker 1: middle of the night. Okay. You know what, how many
- 6:20Speaker 1: times Kathleen Murphy have I told a jury nothing good
- 6:25Speaker 1: happens after midnight? And now my twins say, thank goodness.
- 6:28Speaker 1: I hope I've brainwashed them with me. Kathleen Murphy, family
- 6:31Speaker 1: lawyer out of North Carolina. And let me tell you something.
- 6:34Speaker 1: We say family law, it's all nice and cozy like
- 6:37Speaker 1: a Hallmark card. It ain't okay. Some of the most
- 6:41Speaker 1: bitter cases I've ever seen start stem with family law.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy at NC Domestic Law dot com. Kathleen, you're
- 6:52Speaker 1: a trial lawyer. Why does so much go down after midnight. Well,
- 6:56Speaker 1: not only am I trial lawyer, but I'm a mother
- 6:59Speaker 1: and my husband of the rally fireman, and we hear
- 7:02Speaker 1: after midnight all of the horrible things. And it is
- 7:05Speaker 1: they preach to my children, don't go out after midnight.
- 7:08Speaker 1: So when this guy sees this woman come out of
- 7:11Speaker 1: the car and it's late night, early morning, you have
- 7:15Speaker 1: to have your spidy senses up at that point. He
- 7:18Speaker 1: was smart. Another thing that's so brazen about this, Karen Start,
- 7:22Speaker 1: not just the fact that you know we're getting on three,
- 7:25Speaker 1: four or five six am in the morning, people are
- 7:30Speaker 1: starting to get up and get about, is that he's
- 7:34Speaker 1: in public if he'll do this and a Walgreen's parking lot,
- 7:40Speaker 1: what will he do if and when he gets this
- 7:43Speaker 1: woman alone and a structure like a house or in
- 7:47Speaker 1: the car he forced her into with me A Karen Start,
- 7:50Speaker 1: renowned New York psychologists joining us. She's at Karen Start
- 7:54Speaker 1: dot com. That's Karen with a See Karen, I mean,
- 7:56Speaker 1: if he'll do what does that tell you about the
- 7:59Speaker 1: mindset of the He's in public doing this, Nancy, and
- 8:03Speaker 1: he needs has grandios today. This man has no feeling
- 8:07Speaker 1: that anything bad is going to happen. That he can
- 8:10Speaker 1: do whatever he wants, wherever he wants, and there will
- 8:14Speaker 1: be no consequences. He's not even thinking about, well, what
- 8:18Speaker 1: if somebody saw? What if someone will see? He'll put
- 8:21Speaker 1: her back in the car, but it doesn't stop him
- 8:24Speaker 1: or make him wonder je will somebody called the police?
- 8:28Speaker 1: Because he's thinking only about himself. He's narcissistic. He can't
- 8:33Speaker 1: begin to imagine that anything but his little world but
- 8:37Speaker 1: he's creating exists, you know, Kathleen Murphy, I've had to
- 8:40Speaker 1: happen to me at Triles so many times. I still
- 8:43Speaker 1: believe and eyewitnesses and earwitnesses for that matter, but they're
- 8:49Speaker 1: always attacked. In fact, it's in the statutory code that
- 8:53Speaker 1: eyewitnesses can be questioned on X y Z is your
- 8:58Speaker 1: vision impaired? He have a clear line of vision of
- 9:02Speaker 1: what you're talking about. What was the lighting at any point?
- 9:07Speaker 1: Was your vision obstructed? These are points in the law
- 9:10Speaker 1: that any lawyer worth their salt knows to go bam bam,
- 9:15Speaker 1: bam bam. So we've got this guy who is a
- 9:18Speaker 1: clerk at Walgreens. It's still dark outside in the early
- 9:22Speaker 1: morning hours. How good is his eyewitness account going to
- 9:26Speaker 1: be if he's trying to describe the purp. He kind
- 9:29Speaker 1: of got a little bit of a tag number there,
- 9:31Speaker 1: which I was pretty impressed with GLHM three two a
- 9:34Speaker 1: dark blue suv. That's pretty good. He knew enough to
- 9:38Speaker 1: get that. You don't normally get that. Well. When I
- 9:40Speaker 1: heard that he got the tag number, it felt like
- 9:42Speaker 1: he was following the purp. So maybe he was pulling
- 9:45Speaker 1: into work he saw it while he was still in
- 9:48Speaker 1: a vehicle. I'm not sure, but it sounded like he
- 9:52Speaker 1: was following the vehicle, or that they were still in
- 9:56Speaker 1: the parking lot together. I don't think he was in
- 9:58Speaker 1: the store. So who A, it's a woman at Walgreens
- 10:02Speaker 1: and playing view? Why did she have her hands already
- 10:08Speaker 1: tied together? Who listen? Herewly Saturday morning, we believed that
- 10:15Speaker 1: the suspect in this case, mister Trevor Summers, had been
- 10:21Speaker 1: communicating with a fourteen year old daughter and had asked
- 10:25Speaker 1: her to weave a window open so he could come
- 10:28Speaker 1: into the house. She did that. He had led the
- 10:31Speaker 1: fourteen year old to believe that he just wanted to
- 10:33Speaker 1: come over and speak to the mother, probably around in
- 10:38Speaker 1: the very early morning hours of Saturday morning. He arrived
- 10:42Speaker 1: and he came in the house, tricking a fourteen year
- 10:46Speaker 1: old little girl into leaving a bedroom window open. Take
- 10:52Speaker 1: a listener more from the Hillsborough County Sheriff. Surely after
- 10:55Speaker 1: he came into the house, we have been told at
- 10:58Speaker 1: this time that he told the fourteen year old to
- 11:02Speaker 1: take his car and to wait in the area. She
- 11:05Speaker 1: took a couple of the children out of the house
- 11:07Speaker 1: at that time and waited in the area for several hours.
- 11:12Speaker 1: He was communicating with her my cell phone, and I'm
- 11:16Speaker 1: talking about the fourteen year old daughter and mister Somers.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Probably around five thirty in the morning. He told her
- 11:26Speaker 1: to come and pick the other children up, which they
- 11:29Speaker 1: drove back just a few blocks of the house, picked
- 11:31Speaker 1: the other children up, and then he allowed her to
- 11:35Speaker 1: drive his car to his address. So this adult mel
- 11:42Speaker 1: tricks the fourteen year old girl into leaving a window
- 11:47Speaker 1: open so he can get in and talk to mommy
- 11:51Speaker 1: and take the other siblings away. Who advises a fourteen
- 11:58Speaker 1: year old little girl to drive a car full of
- 12:02Speaker 1: younger children off and wait while you quote talk to mommy.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Nothing good is happening from that Listen so we have
- 12:13Speaker 1: a fourteen year old who has all the children, and
- 12:15Speaker 1: they drive to the Riverview address where they waiting throughout
- 12:19Speaker 1: the day, and supposedly he is going to speak to
- 12:22Speaker 1: the mother during the day and they're going to try
- 12:24Speaker 1: to work things out. That is what he told the
- 12:26Speaker 1: fourteen year old. It wasn't until that night, Saturday night,
- 12:31Speaker 1: that we had Previously we had not been notified of
- 12:34Speaker 1: any of this, But that night we get the call
- 12:37Speaker 1: at Walgreens where a female exits a car, appears to
- 12:42Speaker 1: have her hands tied, and a male puts her back
- 12:45Speaker 1: into the car. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. So from
- 13:05Speaker 1: Friday until Saturday night, when cops get a call about
- 13:11Speaker 1: an unknown female screaming for help with our hands tied
- 13:15Speaker 1: and a Wallgreen's parking lot, nobody, the rest of the family,
- 13:20Speaker 1: the cops, nobody knows what's happening. It's Saturday, so nobody's
- 13:26Speaker 1: missing from work. What happened between Friday and Saturday night?
- 13:34Speaker 1: Listen to our friends at Fox thirteen used the Christmas
- 13:38Speaker 1: lights to tie me to the bedrails. At one point
- 13:42Speaker 1: being hog tied, the pain was so incredible, of shooting
- 13:49Speaker 1: pain and spasms through my back, from being in that
- 13:52Speaker 1: position that I was crying out to him, begging him
- 13:57Speaker 1: to please just droll me onto my side. Alsa broke
- 14:01Speaker 1: down to as she recounted how Summers sexually assaulted her
- 14:05Speaker 1: twice and then tried to smother her to death with
- 14:08Speaker 1: a pillow. She passed out and then woke up in
- 14:12Speaker 1: a panic. This woman hogtied with Christmas lights, tied to
- 14:20Speaker 1: bed rails, begging as her per raped her repeatedly. Rachel D.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Fisher Special Guests joining US registered nurse and sex assault
- 14:35Speaker 1: nurse Examiner, expert witness and author of Taking Back the Pen,
- 14:42Speaker 1: Private investigator. You can find her at Forensic Nursing Consulting Rachel.
- 14:48Speaker 1: When you see a rape victim come into the hospital,
- 14:55Speaker 1: what is your immediate action? What do you do for
- 15:00Speaker 1: Our first priority is to make sure that they're face
- 15:03Speaker 1: and home. We get we get a history from them
- 15:07Speaker 1: of what happened. We get them to a safe room,
- 15:09Speaker 1: make sure the perpetrator is nearby, get them safe and
- 15:13Speaker 1: take a history of what happened. Then much and then
- 15:16Speaker 1: we do an assessment. We do a rape kit if
- 15:20Speaker 1: it was a sexual assault, where we go through all
- 15:23Speaker 1: the areas and we six swabs into all of the
- 15:26Speaker 1: areas that they've been hurt. We photograph the injuries. You
- 15:29Speaker 1: know what, Rachel Fisher, I always admire that you are
- 15:34Speaker 1: so compassionate and how you treat the victims that come
- 15:37Speaker 1: before you. However, this is time when I want facts.
- 15:42Speaker 1: When you say you swab areas, that means you take
- 15:47Speaker 1: a really long queue tip looking thing that's I would
- 15:52Speaker 1: say seven to nine five to nine inches long, and
- 15:56Speaker 1: you probe the woman's vagina and her anus to determine
- 16:02Speaker 1: if there is sperm. You have to do a pelvic
- 16:05Speaker 1: exam where you use a speculum to enlarge the vaginal
- 16:11Speaker 1: opening so you can look around for trauma. Then you
- 16:15Speaker 1: have to take a special comb and comb the pubic
- 16:19Speaker 1: hare to find out if there are any other pubic
- 16:22Speaker 1: hairs or fibers. Then you basically repeat the process with
- 16:27Speaker 1: the woman's anus. Okay, right, is that what goes down? Yeah?
- 16:32Speaker 1: It's very basically taking the history of what happened to them,
- 16:35Speaker 1: and then in a medical sense, we're essentially redoing it
- 16:38Speaker 1: because them you're exposing them to be I penetrated again
- 16:42Speaker 1: and to be probed and stuck with medical devices. And
- 16:46Speaker 1: it's very retraumativing for the patients. It condup it really is.
- 16:51Speaker 1: You know, women go every day, millions of women every
- 16:54Speaker 1: day for a pelvic because they am no big deal.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Hop of them table leave bam over. But in the
- 17:00Speaker 1: this since after you've already been raped repeatedly, and a
- 17:04Speaker 1: lot of times the rape victims are raped vaginally and
- 17:07Speaker 1: they're also raped annally, and they don't want to stay
- 17:10Speaker 1: for some reason that they've been sodomized. I don't know why,
- 17:14Speaker 1: because I'd want that perp to get his extra twenty
- 17:16Speaker 1: to life. But that's just me. I remember one case,
- 17:21Speaker 1: Rachel Fisher turned out to be a murder, but it
- 17:27Speaker 1: started with the guy was a serial rapist and there
- 17:31Speaker 1: was one woman, an Asian victim, and she did not
- 17:38Speaker 1: want her community, or her family, or her husband to
- 17:40Speaker 1: know she had been raped. It was that so taboo,
- 17:45Speaker 1: and what she would say on the stand as that
- 17:48Speaker 1: the kidnapped her, had tied her, tied her up, through
- 17:53Speaker 1: her in a trunk, and beat her. She would never
- 17:57Speaker 1: ever admit to the rape. When you get the right
- 18:01Speaker 1: victims and you're to analyze them, typically what state emotional
- 18:09Speaker 1: state are they in? So it depends a lot of tractions.
- 18:12Speaker 1: They're just completely in shock and they have a flat aspect,
- 18:15Speaker 1: can't even say anything. It's hard, what I mean, even
- 18:18Speaker 1: talk about it because what they went through was so traumatic,
- 18:20Speaker 1: So to retell us everything is traumatic in of itself,
- 18:24Speaker 1: and then to have us do this whole examination on them.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Sometimes they're erratic, sometimes they last. They have different reactions
- 18:32Speaker 1: to trauma, but it is traumatizing to go through that
- 18:36Speaker 1: and then to have to come to a complete stranger
- 18:38Speaker 1: in a cold room and take off your clothes and
- 18:40Speaker 1: expose yourself all over again. So that's why as an
- 18:43Speaker 1: examiner we look at everything. Even you know, if they
- 18:46Speaker 1: don't say that there was an animal assault, we still
- 18:48Speaker 1: examine that. We still take swabs because you could get DNA,
- 18:52Speaker 1: you could see injury. But they don't always remember the event,
- 18:55Speaker 1: especially when association is involved, or stingulation or they passed out.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Don't remember everything that happens. So it's important that while
- 19:03Speaker 1: there there with us that we look at all the
- 19:04Speaker 1: places they don't even tell us about. You know, Um,
- 19:08Speaker 1: I'm just going to ask if anybody on the panel disagrees,
- 19:12Speaker 1: tell me, is there something or anybody here in the studio,
- 19:16Speaker 1: said Jack. Everybody is there something that is so painful
- 19:21Speaker 1: that happened to you or that you witnessed that you
- 19:24Speaker 1: have never talked about it. I don't care what it is.
- 19:27Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you what it is. I mean, so,
- 19:32Speaker 1: I imagine that there are a lot of rape victims
- 19:35Speaker 1: out there that never come forward. They never want to
- 19:39Speaker 1: talk about it. It's like reliving it. Karen Stark, not
- 19:44Speaker 1: only a renowned New York psychologist, but a friend, longtime colleague. Um, Karen,
- 19:52Speaker 1: what is that? Why are there things that hurts so
- 19:56Speaker 1: much at the time that you have never wants talked
- 20:01Speaker 1: about them? Usually the reason is thinking that people feel shame, humiliation, guilt.
- 20:09Speaker 1: It's very hard when you think about it, and these
- 20:12Speaker 1: are victims, but they wind up feeling like there's something
- 20:16Speaker 1: I should have done or I should have prevented it.
- 20:19Speaker 1: And it's embarrassing to have to admit that you've been
- 20:24Speaker 1: to a situation like this, that someone has violated you.
- 20:28Speaker 1: It's really awful that people can't talk about it, because
- 20:32Speaker 1: as a psychologist, the more that you talk about it,
- 20:36Speaker 1: the better it actually is. You get it out of you,
- 20:39Speaker 1: you find out you're not alone. But until you're in
- 20:43Speaker 1: a situation where you're willing to do that, people keep
- 20:46Speaker 1: it to themselves. That's why if you ask that question
- 20:50Speaker 1: that you ask, almost everybody has something that they've never
- 20:53Speaker 1: shared and they feel humiliated and shameful about it or
- 20:58Speaker 1: another thing. Karen Starr is like it's happening all over again.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Feels like you're reliving it. You know how many years
- 21:05Speaker 1: I went without talking about Keith's murder, my fiance's murder.
- 21:09Speaker 1: I hated talking about it. I wouldn't even tell people
- 21:11Speaker 1: in the DA's office that I worked with for ten
- 21:14Speaker 1: straight years, I never mentioned it because it feels like
- 21:18Speaker 1: it's happening all over again. So you were just hearing
- 21:23Speaker 1: this woman as she described being tied up with Christmas lights,
- 21:28Speaker 1: hogtied and repeatedly raped. I'm just trying to take in
- 21:33Speaker 1: everything that has happened to this mother and what the daughter,
- 21:38Speaker 1: the fourteen year old girl who probably feels like it's
- 21:42Speaker 1: her fault for letting him through the window. I mean,
- 21:46Speaker 1: Glory Gomez joining me Fox thirteen, Tampa, incredible investigative reporter.
- 21:52Speaker 1: How did he convince the fourteen year old girl to
- 21:57Speaker 1: leave the window open for him to get in? Actually,
- 22:00Speaker 1: I interviewed Artie Summers and she's nineteen now, and she
- 22:05Speaker 1: says that she believed her dad. Why wouldn't she, It's
- 22:09Speaker 1: her dad. She thought that it was going to be
- 22:12Speaker 1: a situation where she was going to be helpful and
- 22:15Speaker 1: working things out between her parents. I mean, what kid
- 22:18Speaker 1: doesn't want their parents to stay together. That's what she wanted.
- 22:21Speaker 1: She was fourteen years old. She's listening to her dad
- 22:24Speaker 1: convinced her, basically lie to her that he was going
- 22:28Speaker 1: to try to work things out with his her mom,
- 22:31Speaker 1: and so she believed it. She was a kid. She
- 22:33Speaker 1: followed her instructions from her dad. Leave the window unluck,
- 22:37Speaker 1: so I can come in and talk to your mom
- 22:39Speaker 1: work things out. She did that and now she feels
- 22:42Speaker 1: guilty about it. She told me that recently Greg Smith,
- 22:45Speaker 1: special Deputy Sheriff, joining us at Kelsy's Army. I guess
- 22:48Speaker 1: it went dawn on a child. Why would dad come
- 22:51Speaker 1: through the window. Why doesn't he just come through the door. No,
- 22:54Speaker 1: I mean, kid's gonna trust their currents, your parents or
- 22:58Speaker 1: your parents, no matter what's going on, what's happened, and
- 23:01Speaker 1: if there's unrest in the house, the parents aren't getting along.
- 23:05Speaker 1: The kids always want to try to get some kind
- 23:07Speaker 1: of resolution between the parents so that there's some kind
- 23:10Speaker 1: of normalcy in the family. You know, Kathleen Murphy, you've
- 23:13Speaker 1: seen it all. Kathleen Murphy joining me out of North
- 23:16Speaker 1: Carolina at NC Domestic Law dot com. It's really the
- 23:20Speaker 1: children who suffer so much in every kind of domestic situation.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Doing this for as long as I've done this thirty
- 23:28Speaker 1: three years, it pains me to this day to see
- 23:32Speaker 1: these children and what they have to put up with
- 23:35Speaker 1: through the court system, whether it's a criminal court system,
- 23:38Speaker 1: or a family court system or a juvenile court system,
- 23:41Speaker 1: it's always the children. And I just have to shout
- 23:43Speaker 1: out to this young lady because she takes it on
- 23:47Speaker 1: and she needs to know very clearly that she's manipulated
- 23:50Speaker 1: by a narcissist, by a manipulator. Well, you know what,
- 23:55Speaker 1: if you think it can't get worse and being hog
- 23:58Speaker 1: tied with Christmas lights and repeatedly raped, it can. Listen.
- 24:06Speaker 1: You came in and you put the pillow over my
- 24:09Speaker 1: face with full force. Okay, in your statement here in
- 24:16Speaker 1: this courtroom, um, you said that the look on my
- 24:21Speaker 1: face was of death, or of or evil and hatred.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I believe your statement was that you knew you knew
- 24:33Speaker 1: I was going to kill you when you saw my face? Correct? Yes,
- 24:41Speaker 1: How did you know what was in my heart? How
- 24:44Speaker 1: did you know what was in my mind? All I
- 24:50Speaker 1: saw was an expression of evil and hatred. And at
- 24:56Speaker 1: that time or my thought is he's here, I'm going
- 25:00Speaker 1: to die. What an idiot he is actually questioning his victim?
- 25:08Speaker 1: How did you know I was going to kill you? Well,
- 25:10Speaker 1: that didn't help anything. Listen to our friends at Fox thirteen.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Alisa cried as she recounted how Summers tried to smother
- 25:16Speaker 1: her to death and later raped her twice. Summers tried
- 25:20Speaker 1: to suggest it was consensual during an awkward cross examination
- 25:25Speaker 1: that only triggered a fiery response. Did I hold you down?
- 25:31Speaker 1: You did push me, you did hold me down, you
- 25:33Speaker 1: did tie me up, you did attack me, and you
- 25:36Speaker 1: did break into my home when I was sleeping you
- 25:39Speaker 1: raped me. Gloria gome As, what in the hey is
- 25:44Speaker 1: this idiot doing questioning his own rape victim? And how
- 25:53Speaker 1: dare he suggests it was consensual that he tie her up?
- 25:59Speaker 1: With Christmas life and hog tire and rape are over
- 26:02Speaker 1: and over, Nancy, you got to understand Trevor SMRs. Thinks
- 26:05Speaker 1: he's the smartest guy in the room. He thinks he
- 26:08Speaker 1: can manipulate the entire situation, that the jury was going
- 26:12Speaker 1: to believe him, that he was just trying to work
- 26:15Speaker 1: things out with Elisa, But every question he asked just
- 26:19Speaker 1: made it worse. And that jury I was watching them.
- 26:22Speaker 1: They were literally piercing at him during this cross examination,
- 26:26Speaker 1: knowing that he's once again revictimizing her. And there she
- 26:31Speaker 1: is on the stand having to relive the entire thing.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Listen describe as obsessed and controlling when it came to
- 26:40Speaker 1: as a strange wife Elisa, she believed that the defendant,
- 26:45Speaker 1: Trevor Sommers, was going to kill her. They say on
- 26:48Speaker 1: March eleventh of twenty seventeen, he tricked his daughter Arden,
- 26:52Speaker 1: who is fourteen at the time, to let him into
- 26:55Speaker 1: the house despite having a restraining order against him. Once in,
- 27:00Speaker 1: he attacked a Lisa and held her against her will
- 27:04Speaker 1: before kidnapping her. She's hog tied at points. She is
- 27:09Speaker 1: tied with Christmas tree lights, tied down to her bed,
- 27:13Speaker 1: and then more take a close SNAr free Gloria gun
- 27:17Speaker 1: As Fox thirteen Summers stopped at a Walgreens, and that's
- 27:20Speaker 1: when Alsa, with her arms tied behind her bag, tried
- 27:24Speaker 1: to get away. Randall Crosby was working at Walgreens at
- 27:29Speaker 1: the time and witnessed all of it. The scene and
- 27:32Speaker 1: heard a woman running and screaming in the barking lot.
- 27:36Speaker 1: He says, a man he identified as Summers forced a
- 27:39Speaker 1: woman back into the car and took off a blanket
- 27:42Speaker 1: that was draped over her was left in the parking
- 27:45Speaker 1: lot as police closed in. Summers wrote goodbye letters to
- 27:49Speaker 1: his five children and tried to kill Elisa twice by
- 27:53Speaker 1: choking her and nearly smothering her to death. Kathleen Murphy
- 27:57Speaker 1: family lawyer are joining us out of North Carolina trial.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Veteran Kathleen the single most dangerous time, and I'm guessing
- 28:06Speaker 1: Rachel Fisher is going to agree as well as Karen Stark.
- 28:10Speaker 1: For a woman, it's when she is trying to leave
- 28:14Speaker 1: and she will not reconcile with the mail. That is tracts.
- 28:19Speaker 1: But in this particular situation, they were not together immediately
- 28:26Speaker 1: prior to this crime occurring, which is interesting. I think
- 28:31Speaker 1: he was trying to reconcile. Remember they were meeting up.
- 28:34Speaker 1: You're right to quote talk about the divorce, or at
- 28:37Speaker 1: least Gloria gum as Fox thirteen, he wanted to talk
- 28:41Speaker 1: about the upcoming divorce and stop it. I don't think
- 28:44Speaker 1: she felt the same way. Well, a lot of it
- 28:47Speaker 1: was rooted also that she started seeing someone and he
- 28:50Speaker 1: found out about it, So that triggered that response of
- 28:54Speaker 1: I'm going to get her back or no one else
- 28:56Speaker 1: is going to happen. And Karen Stark, he thinks, in
- 28:59Speaker 1: his effort to get her back, sneaking in through the window,
- 29:02Speaker 1: having the fourteen year old drive away with the other
- 29:05Speaker 1: four minor children and what hide out in the car,
- 29:09Speaker 1: and hog tying her with Christmas slice and raping her
- 29:12Speaker 1: over and over, that's somehow going to woo her back. Well, Nancy,
- 29:15Speaker 1: you are being very rational. I mean, this is not
- 29:18Speaker 1: a guy who's sitting there and thinking, well, what is
- 29:21Speaker 1: the rational thing for me to do here? Obviously he
- 29:25Speaker 1: feels like my ego has been bruised. She's with somebody else.
- 29:30Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen. It's not about I
- 29:33Speaker 1: want to have a good life. I want to have
- 29:35Speaker 1: a good life. I want my children to be Okay,
- 29:37Speaker 1: it's about him. It's about him. She can't leave me,
- 29:41Speaker 1: she can't do this to me. And I'm getting revenge
- 29:57Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. What can you tell me,
- 30:01Speaker 1: Glory to go? Mess about the goodbye letters he wrote
- 30:05Speaker 1: to their five children. What did those letters say? He
- 30:09Speaker 1: talked about how he wanted a better life for them,
- 30:12Speaker 1: that you know that mommy and Daddy were going to
- 30:15Speaker 1: miss them, and that this had to be done. And
- 30:20Speaker 1: he basically said that they loved him, that he loved
- 30:24Speaker 1: the children, but this was the way it had to
- 30:26Speaker 1: be and that was it. You know, I think that
- 30:29Speaker 1: would be my biggest fear is to be separated from
- 30:33Speaker 1: my children. Karen Stark. And here is a mother of
- 30:37Speaker 1: five who finally gets free of this guy. She's rebuilding
- 30:42Speaker 1: her life. She's the one living with the five children
- 30:46Speaker 1: and taking care of them, when this a hole comes
- 30:50Speaker 1: through the window, kidnaps her, rapes her over and over,
- 30:55Speaker 1: tries to smother her multiple times. I think the worst
- 30:59Speaker 1: part all of that would be being taken away from
- 31:04Speaker 1: your children. Can you imagine five children left without mother?
- 31:08Speaker 1: And we know, Nancy that there are situations where the
- 31:11Speaker 1: outcome is not as good as this one, where children
- 31:14Speaker 1: are left without their mother and it's terrific. I think
- 31:19Speaker 1: two of the young children were actually in the room
- 31:22Speaker 1: when he first entered, and the whole time he was
- 31:27Speaker 1: in touch with his daughter, with the fourteen year old,
- 31:30Speaker 1: and she is blaming herself, absolutely blaming herself for having
- 31:35Speaker 1: let her dad go in through the window. And they
- 31:38Speaker 1: were really just trying to get their family back together again.
- 31:42Speaker 1: There was a new man and they were not happy
- 31:44Speaker 1: about that. They were so innocent, they were really innocent,
- 31:49Speaker 1: and he or she is thinking, that's it. I'm going
- 31:52Speaker 1: to lose my five children, this is the end. I
- 31:55Speaker 1: can only imagine what was going through her mind during
- 31:57Speaker 1: all of this. Well, it didn't error and we can
- 32:01Speaker 1: only thank Crosby from Walgrains for saving this woman's life. Listen,
- 32:09Speaker 1: this morning, we had a citizen who alerted us that
- 32:13Speaker 1: a car fitting that description was part right in this
- 32:16Speaker 1: area and it's in the area of the crime scene.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Take close to me. We converged on this area. Uh,
- 32:23Speaker 1: the car left and traveled about, you know, within a
- 32:28Speaker 1: mile of this area and went into a garage area
- 32:32Speaker 1: of cardboard area of a house of skill and stilts
- 32:35Speaker 1: and just parked there. The deputies, some uniformed and some
- 32:40Speaker 1: playing fosed deputies converged on that address and attempt to
- 32:46Speaker 1: rescue um the victim. You know, I'm interesting. I mentioned
- 32:53Speaker 1: David Crosby as calling police when he sees the victim
- 32:57Speaker 1: being forced into a car with our hands tied. But
- 33:00Speaker 1: then another citizen. This is very reminiscent of the Gabby
- 33:04Speaker 1: Potito case when the whole country was looking for Gabby
- 33:07Speaker 1: Potito and then a civilian Red White and Bethan remember
- 33:11Speaker 1: that was their name, Jackie, their handle online, was out
- 33:15Speaker 1: camping and they saw a van that was similar to
- 33:20Speaker 1: Gabby Potitos and called it in and that's how Gabby
- 33:24Speaker 1: was ultimately found. So Gloria Goma is joining us. Fox thirteen.
- 33:29Speaker 1: You have another citizen who knows the description of the
- 33:33Speaker 1: suv from Walgreen's parking lot and sees it part t
- 33:37Speaker 1: where I believe that that's where the safe house was,
- 33:42Speaker 1: in a remote area of Hillborough County. So wait a minute,
- 33:46Speaker 1: he takes the car, he takes her in the suv
- 33:50Speaker 1: and then hides out so nobody can find him. Right that,
- 33:55Speaker 1: they go off and apparently Elsa's testimony is that they
- 34:00Speaker 1: drove around. He was looking for a quote safe house
- 34:03Speaker 1: that he knew of and finally ended up in a
- 34:07Speaker 1: remote area out in the outskirts of Tampa, probably about
- 34:11Speaker 1: twenty five miles from Tampa again and ended up in
- 34:15Speaker 1: this home. And that's where the Good Samaritans saw that
- 34:19Speaker 1: description of the vehicle, called it in and then police
- 34:22Speaker 1: surrounded the home. That is amazing, Gloria Gomez in Greg
- 34:26Speaker 1: Smith joining us with the Johnson County Sheriff's officing Kelsey's
- 34:30Speaker 1: Army dot com. I've got no doubt in my mind,
- 34:33Speaker 1: Greg Smith, he took her out to this remote location
- 34:36Speaker 1: to kill her. Oh absolutely. I mean that's a common thing.
- 34:40Speaker 1: You've One of the things that we teach at the
- 34:43Speaker 1: Kelsey Smith Foundation is if you leave crime scene one,
- 34:46Speaker 1: you're not going to survive crime scene two. Crimescene one
- 34:49Speaker 1: is usually where the abduction takes place, and then they
- 34:52Speaker 1: take you someplace where they feel safe, where they think
- 34:54Speaker 1: they're in control, where they can do whatever they want. So,
- 34:58Speaker 1: by all means, he he had a plan. I don't
- 35:02Speaker 1: know that he had it planned out, but he had
- 35:03Speaker 1: a plan that he was at least making up on
- 35:05Speaker 1: the plot. I think, Nancy. His original plan was to
- 35:10Speaker 1: charter a boat and go out to sea, and then
- 35:15Speaker 1: to kill both of them and to dump her body.
- 35:18Speaker 1: And you know, how often is it that we see
- 35:21Speaker 1: the mastermind kill the other person in the murder suicide
- 35:25Speaker 1: pact and then amazingly they managed to live in any event,
- 35:29Speaker 1: he was set to kill her, leaving five orphans behind.
- 35:35Speaker 1: But listen to our friends at WKMG. Some breaking new
- 35:39Speaker 1: developments in Hillsborough County, where deputy say a woman kidnapped
- 35:43Speaker 1: by her a strange husband has just been found. The
- 35:46Speaker 1: Sheriff's office says the suspect convinced their fourteen year old
- 35:49Speaker 1: daughter to leave a window open on Friday night so
- 35:52Speaker 1: he could come in and talk to his ex about
- 35:54Speaker 1: their marriage. The sheriff said today Trevor Summers told the
- 35:58Speaker 1: girl to take his car and drive her four siblings
- 36:01Speaker 1: to his house. On Saturday, Dedeca, a witness saw a
- 36:05Speaker 1: man forced a woman into an suv outside of the Walgreens.
- 36:08Speaker 1: They say the woman had her hands tied behind her
- 36:10Speaker 1: back and was screaming for help before she was pushed
- 36:13Speaker 1: back into that car. Deputy say Trevor Summers was tracked
- 36:17Speaker 1: down after a tip this morning. They say he resisted
- 36:20Speaker 1: a rest and appeared to have a self inflicted knife
- 36:22Speaker 1: wound along his throat, a self inflated knife lown. Please stop.
- 36:28Speaker 1: He does all this to his wife, and he scratches
- 36:31Speaker 1: himself on the neck, And I'm supposed to feel sorry
- 36:34Speaker 1: for him. I'm not. I don't feel sorry for him.
- 36:37Speaker 1: To hay with him, and he manages to survive his
- 36:41Speaker 1: suicide attempt. But wait a minute, listen to our cut
- 36:46Speaker 1: seventeen Jackie. Our friends at w FLA Summers in her attorney,
- 36:51Speaker 1: spend nearly five hours in court today for a grueling
- 36:54Speaker 1: custody battle between her and her husband, and when they
- 36:57Speaker 1: walked out today they were not happy with the outcome.
- 37:00Speaker 1: It took something like this to occur for the police
- 37:03Speaker 1: to even take her seriously. And I can't say what
- 37:08Speaker 1: happened today, but I can't tell you that we're very
- 37:09Speaker 1: disappointed in the outcome today. Attorney Stephen Glaro says his client,
- 37:13Speaker 1: Elisa Summers, won't give up fighting for her children. The
- 37:17Speaker 1: five kids, ranging in age from fourteen to three years old,
- 37:20Speaker 1: are currently staying with Trevor Summer's parents. He remains behind bars,
- 37:24Speaker 1: accused of kidnapping her Saturday. This is going to prevent
- 37:28Speaker 1: other people from coming forward when there's domestic violence, okay,
- 37:30Speaker 1: Gloria gum As Fox thirteen. I don't understand. He rapes
- 37:34Speaker 1: and kidnaps her, tries to kill her repeatedly, and some
- 37:38Speaker 1: judge didn't give her full custody. Right. It was one
- 37:43Speaker 1: of those situations where Alisa was so upset and frustrated,
- 37:48Speaker 1: not understanding why the justice system would do this to her,
- 37:51Speaker 1: and she fought it and thought it and then Trevor
- 37:55Speaker 1: Summers parents got involved, and so that complicated matters even more.
- 38:00Speaker 1: It was a legal mess. And so now she's dealing
- 38:04Speaker 1: with the criminal case, but she's also dealing with the
- 38:06Speaker 1: family matter case. What idiot judge would not give her
- 38:09Speaker 1: a custody I don't understand that, Maria. It happened. It happened.
- 38:12Speaker 1: It took a while for things to be get sorted out,
- 38:15Speaker 1: but it was messing for a while. Now judge needs
- 38:18Speaker 1: to be thrown off the bench. But I can now
- 38:19Speaker 1: give you the good news. Take a listen to our cut.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Twenty eight WTSP Guilty. A man accused of kidnapping and
- 38:26Speaker 1: holding his former wife hostage was found guilty and all
- 38:30Speaker 1: charges by a jury today. In twenty seventeen, investigators say
- 38:33Speaker 1: Trevor Summers manipulated their fourteen year old daughter into taking
- 38:37Speaker 1: his car and leaving with her with her four younger siblings,
- 38:42Speaker 1: while Summers went into the house and took their mother,
- 38:45Speaker 1: Alyssa Summers. She was later found after someone spotted her
- 38:48Speaker 1: trying to escape. By a miracle, she escaped with her
- 38:53Speaker 1: life and then has a judge not give her full custody.
- 39:01Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfalse Nancy Grace Crumb's story signing
- 39:05Speaker 1: off Goodbye Friend,