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Did Blk Ppl Get Fooled By Mamdani? Feat Mouse and Princess Bey (part one) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, If
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying so shamous, so shameless, so so
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, so.
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  Speaker 1: Shameless, if you know what I'm saying so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: So shame, it is you need a safe.
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  Speaker 2: Work here we do.
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  Speaker 4: Let's stalk for a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Now what I might be saying that anyway, so maybe
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  Speaker 5: that can't be that say it means.
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  Speaker 6: Like, are you allowed to tell me I don't want
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  Speaker 6: to get it? Nobody truck.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you see when you seek forgive.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I think it don't be.
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  Speaker 4: Killing educate the people.
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  Speaker 7: Question every rama Danians because not everybody that I like
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  Speaker 7: that that was practic Muslims were.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like that you're saying this because you were
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  Speaker 3: coaxing me into.
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  Speaker 2: Being a non Muslim doing the Ramadan, and now you're
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  Speaker 2: like calling me a Ramadana about it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying there was a lot of non Muslims and
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know what to call. I was just like, Yo,
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  Speaker 5: they fastened, But why do they call them something?
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  Speaker 6: Because everybody we live in America where everybody needs an identity.
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  Speaker 2: I have an identity.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a noninarian practicing Ramadan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm binary.
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  Speaker 4: Binary.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, this is why we started.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I was just people recorded, no, no, no, he
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  Speaker 3: doing so.
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  Speaker 8: He had this post like bearing all this Muslim guard
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  Speaker 8: and you're talking about hose bitches.
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  Speaker 2: Gambling that that's wrong.
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  Speaker 8: People in the comments was like, yo, that's wrong. But
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  Speaker 8: I didn't know what that means. But I was like,
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  Speaker 8: I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Muslim, but something don't seem right about this. He so
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  Speaker 2: he's Muslim in the guard.
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  Speaker 6: No he's not.
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  Speaker 4: He's not Muslim.
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  Speaker 6: No, he is Muslim. What what Traumi is saying is
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  Speaker 6: that his music be talking about shooting bitch bitches, shooting niggas,
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  Speaker 6: all that ship. But then in the same post and
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  Speaker 6: the same and he practices.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not Muslim.
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  Speaker 5: But something feels, oh this is you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I made it coming clock Brocket.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody said it's not wrong, and then somebody say, I'm
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  Speaker 5: about to take my shata. Okay, it's just a fashion
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  Speaker 5: statement show.
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  Speaker 3: The day of Eat, I seen the dude walking. He
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  Speaker 3: had the guard are born walking smoking a cigarette, couldn't
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  Speaker 3: wait smoking.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like.
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  Speaker 6: That gotta be wrong, that crackish I see.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen him brother the outside my mask. Well, I
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  Speaker 4: ain't gonna reveal people's sins. But yeah, now.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I wasn't gonna start with this right. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: welcome back to So Shameless everybody. Right, yeah, y'all, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: y'all forced me into this because I was gonna.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna. I was gonna slowly go into we meet.
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  Speaker 2: How do you say that? In Ramadan say like that?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you're about to say?
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  Speaker 4: He's asked me about a law? No, you don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: That's mocking. You're mocking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not mocking anything. You're mocking us part of it.
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  Speaker 6: You're not muchlam Ramadanian.
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  Speaker 3: Until I didn't realize so mouse is saying this because
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  Speaker 3: first of all, we have Trump was here, My mouse
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  Speaker 3: is here, and I have I wouldn't say a friend
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  Speaker 3: of up with your thirty years twenty five years something
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  Speaker 3: like that here on the.
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  Speaker 4: Couch with me, right, Hey, yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 2: Princess Bay government exploit can I I can't say that
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  Speaker 2: x plum. Can I say that?
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  Speaker 5: Can I say I start too much?
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  Speaker 3: It's not She wouldn't be the first, won't if she
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  Speaker 3: will look.
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  Speaker 4: At all these people only rappers and whatnot.
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  Speaker 6: You can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do vol day.
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  Speaker 5: Since that's correct, and my god, let's just say that
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  Speaker 5: I've come a long way along.
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  Speaker 4: But let's say the journey.
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  Speaker 6: Let's say you was on the art of dialogue. What
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  Speaker 6: would they interview you about? If you are glad? What
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  Speaker 6: would interview would be the first question?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I've lived many lives enough, Okay, Yeah, there'd
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  Speaker 5: be a plethora of topics.
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  Speaker 2: That is the that is the identifier of a drug dealer.
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  Speaker 2: I am so scared for Princess today.
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  Speaker 4: I am.
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  Speaker 3: This is a mess. We should set mouse in the
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  Speaker 3: other room the TV and monitoring there you can watch
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  Speaker 3: and just comment. We got to do that one day,
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  Speaker 3: nigga just let him just comment. Yeah, put this nigga
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  Speaker 3: in the basement with any You don't make me mouse.
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  Speaker 3: Academics so crazy. But yes, it is now three days
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  Speaker 3: after ID move, Barack move, same thing. How words, I
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  Speaker 3: said the wrong word.
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  Speaker 5: It's but a lot of people say because of barackom
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 4: So, I think That's the association people make.
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  Speaker 5: To try to remember it. That's that's what I'm trying
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  Speaker 5: to remember something. I have to create an association. So
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  Speaker 5: I think people here here Barack and they be like.
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  Speaker 3: Barack is Barrack move Barracks the extra there's no C.
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  Speaker 3: There's no C. I'm trying to remember and you b
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  Speaker 3: A R A K quiet. I'm all going off on
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  Speaker 3: Instagram me, what is what is matter of fact?
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  Speaker 2: What is this process that we just went through? What
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  Speaker 2: is the whole thing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm just going to you asking after the fact,
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  Speaker 3: actually during but we have mad listeners that would want
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  Speaker 3: to know why was how even doing this?
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  Speaker 2: We got to start with this.
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  Speaker 5: What is so we'll talk about your reason after your
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  Speaker 5: own reason for it. But fastening during the holy holy
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  Speaker 5: month of Ramadan is obligatory for all Muslims.
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  Speaker 4: It is a month that we are on the sound
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  Speaker 4: during that time.
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  Speaker 5: You know, everyone gets something different out of it, but
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  Speaker 5: we focus on obviously worship, on prayer, on asking for
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  Speaker 5: forgiveness for our sins.
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  Speaker 4: You ask for everything during romdom. Okay, anything that you want.
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  Speaker 5: I told my I'm like, I don't care what it is,
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  Speaker 5: just just ask you know, you put your head on
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  Speaker 5: that rug and you ask for whatever it.
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  Speaker 4: Is that you want, that you desire.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, we really lean into gratitude, right, So
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  Speaker 5: when you think about refraining from food, to.
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  Speaker 4: Me, the food in the water is like the easiest
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  Speaker 4: part of it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's many other things that you're you're essentially
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  Speaker 5: refraining from all types of like worldly pleasures, desires, et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: You were supposed to, which I did tell you, but
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  Speaker 5: I told you to do what you could.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. That's correct.
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  Speaker 5: No intimacy unless you're married. If you're married, you can
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  Speaker 5: engage in intimacy after the fact.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did your Instagram did?
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  Speaker 3: It's my second boxing trainer?
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  Speaker 6: Was okay? That was those those sessions were rough during
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  Speaker 6: a brother.
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  Speaker 4: I can't have no patience for not let me get
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  Speaker 4: you it.
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  Speaker 2: How was it?
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  Speaker 3: How is it crazy? I ain't gonna lie to you.
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  Speaker 3: Rides breath never stay.
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  Speaker 6: But also it could be because you were boxing and
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't focused on breath.
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  Speaker 2: I was focused on breathing, breathing.
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  Speaker 4: So worldly things, right.
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  Speaker 5: But then also, I mean a lot of people commit
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  Speaker 5: sins year round, right, but during this time, you really
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  Speaker 5: refrain from from from those things.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So even when it comes to like what we call backbiting, Right,
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  Speaker 5: it's like talking poorly about people, gossiping, you know, consuming
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  Speaker 5: things that are not like helpful for you, scrolling too much,
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  Speaker 5: and scaring all of those things. Right, it's really just
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  Speaker 5: a time for reflection. But we really lean into gratitude.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So when people are like, oh, there's no way I
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  Speaker 5: could do that, I couldn't do that, I'm like, because
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  Speaker 5: we have the beauty of choice, right, you.
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  Speaker 4: You have the privilege of choice because.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's people who don't know when their next
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  Speaker 5: drink of water is going to be, when their next.
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  Speaker 4: Worsel of food.
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  Speaker 5: I know, Okay, at seven o two, I'm finna eat
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  Speaker 5: these dates, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So we have a choice to say that it's too hard,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: So there's people around the world who don't know when
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  Speaker 5: their next drink of water is gonna be. Who am
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  Speaker 5: I to say, I can't fast for fourteen hours.
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  Speaker 2: Now, ship talking that would get me. That was the
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  Speaker 2: hardest part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't try not to curse.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the hardest part, Like not not thinking today, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have no name for it. But now I know,
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  Speaker 6: I know I can't knock back bite.
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  Speaker 4: And now that that day we do.
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  Speaker 6: The twenty one days up front, June twenty one day,
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  Speaker 6: dang fast, dn't say nothing about talking shit. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: eat my little fruit and waterbout talk shit.
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  Speaker 2: That was the hardest part. I think.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that it would be the food and no water,
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  Speaker 3: know nothing, not that breath. Mint. I didn't realize how
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  Speaker 3: stinky your breath get when you don't eat for twelve hours.
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  Speaker 3: I warn you, that's that's the morning breath during day,
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  Speaker 3: all day. The horrible to It's worse than Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: worse than morning breath because morning breath is only there
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  Speaker 3: until you brush your teeth. Going it's just morning breath
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  Speaker 3: on top of morning breath, afternoon breath evening. You brush
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  Speaker 3: your teeth when you wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to do that all before the
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  Speaker 2: sun come up.
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  Speaker 4: You can brush your teeth throughout the day. You could
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  Speaker 4: brush your teeth as many.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't rushed by the end of By the end.
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  Speaker 4: You brush your teeth. Man, you know you ever see
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  Speaker 4: we have missed you. Ever see the guys and they're
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  Speaker 4: like on the stick and that's what helps with your breath. Also.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll asked you all the I ask you all
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  Speaker 2: the detail. We spoke about the breath.
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  Speaker 5: We spoke about my breath because if you're out and
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  Speaker 5: about if I'm at work, like I'm talking to something,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not like, hold on, like let me go brush
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  Speaker 5: my teeth real quick, but like.
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  Speaker 3: But that you don't think that's important for somebody to
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  Speaker 3: know that I could have brushed my teeth.
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  Speaker 4: But why wouldn't you have been able to brush your teeth?
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  Speaker 2: Because I didn't think that you could do anything. You said,
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  Speaker 2: no breath, swallow the water. Hm, you gotta be you
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  Speaker 2: gotta be a spinner. Okay, this is what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: This is where you're going this conversation.
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  Speaker 6: That's spinning water.
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  Speaker 4: Butts, you're not gonna read what the button says.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not paying panduring what the harang button. That's because
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  Speaker 3: you got to relax when we're speaking about this. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you're right.
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  Speaker 4: We want to keep it respect you.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, one thing, I always fear the musclemsy, but they'll
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  Speaker 6: fuck you up. Christians, Christians, we be letting anything go.
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  Speaker 6: Niggas be talking crazy or ship. We just be like whatever,
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  Speaker 6: that's the church.
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  Speaker 4: You know what it is, you know what it is.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like because when I was going, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago something, it was the Ramad
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  Speaker 5: and I was get on the train and my brother.
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  Speaker 4: Was like, yo, you gotta be careful.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot going on in the world right now,
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  Speaker 5: like when the war popped off, and he's like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's not safe for Muslims.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, Wow, I don't even be thinking
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  Speaker 4: about that because in my mom I'm like a law.
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  Speaker 5: Is with me, right, So not just not at all
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  Speaker 5: meaning that like I'm in no way like in Vince Ward,
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  Speaker 5: anything can happen, But I don't walk with worry, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like I'm not thinking like what's
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  Speaker 5: going to happen to me?
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like of course be cautious.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, got good PR pry.
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  Speaker 3: Like I think it's a difference between Black Muslims and.
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  Speaker 2: Both both sides have good PR. Way, listen, y'all.
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  Speaker 6: PR may not be the best overall, but when it
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  Speaker 6: comes to don't I.
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  Speaker 4: Think you have to know Muslims personally.
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  Speaker 3: This week because and there was a Muslim dude looking
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  Speaker 3: for his seat, and he started walking backwards and I
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  Speaker 3: started getting my seat.
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  Speaker 6: But he could say that.
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  Speaker 2: I swear Garden is wrong because it just was weird,
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  Speaker 2: Like why are you walking backwards?
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  Speaker 3: What you're doing? So he could be putting some down
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  Speaker 3: too much going on, Yes, but that's the bad.
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  Speaker 2: That's the bad.
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  Speaker 3: Is not wrong, probably, but nigga, I'd rather be like
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  Speaker 3: have to pray listen, I'd rather be alder safe side.
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  Speaker 2: It might be.
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  Speaker 3: But he was walking backwards up the aisle, back the aisle,
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  Speaker 3: and he was like he was like looked like he
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  Speaker 3: was running for something. So I was like, that's going on, ye.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of that night the plane crashed at the same airport.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that.
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  Speaker 2: Point.
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  Speaker 3: I take that.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I take that.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know that nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Now we heard now we heard matter of fact, before
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  Speaker 3: we I got to say to anybody that was in
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  Speaker 3: that witness that something trauma through that, Like, yo, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: That was that's messed up, bro. Did you not see
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  Speaker 2: that that crash? This podcast? I gotta say that. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely there's trigger warrings, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: But we have to be comfort people people.
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  Speaker 3: Pass away, family, pass away people, believe people work there,
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  Speaker 3: people traumatized of so shameless.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I just was, Well, you know Muslim in
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  Speaker 5: the building, so it's gonna be a different type of episode.
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  Speaker 4: He got high.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Listen. I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: You have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: I really wanted you to come to the masship.
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  Speaker 5: I was like telling everybody I had a couple of
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  Speaker 5: people can't come through you to him right.
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  Speaker 4: The mosque?
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  Speaker 3: What did you call?
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  Speaker 2: I was close.
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  Speaker 3: No, he wasn't used to mad ship. That's what it
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  Speaker 3: sounds like, mass madge Ji and I love that for us.
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  Speaker 3: It's the so look, no, listen, listen, We're not good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be disrespectful this this process. I
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  Speaker 3: asked her continuously about different things that I had no
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  Speaker 3: idea about, and I definitely didn't want to mock the culture.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's why you said you respect.
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  Speaker 3: Muslims because we respect the faith and the intentionality which
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  Speaker 3: we when you know.
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  Speaker 6: You said we when you said Muslims and he.
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  Speaker 5: Said we know he was saying we respect the culture.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the Ramadanians and the Christians and everybody when we
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  Speaker 3: look at Muslims, especially black Muslims, yes, don't play.
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  Speaker 6: They don't play, They're gonna shoot you about that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, that's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: But they get busy even in prison. When I was
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  Speaker 3: in prison, there was a whole different thing.
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  Speaker 6: Same thing.
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  Speaker 5: But you know why, right, Islam is a lifestyle right,
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  Speaker 5: and all we do is promote peace. Like if you
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  Speaker 5: think about like Muslims, you know, like we chill, like
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  Speaker 5: we we chilling mind in our business. So it's like
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  Speaker 5: we're not looking for trouble ever, you understand. So it's
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  Speaker 5: like now when trouble approaches us, now we have every right.
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  Speaker 3: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: Last Ramadan, it was Yo in Broadway Junction. I got
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  Speaker 4: into a skullful with this girl and I'm like.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, you know, it's Ramadan, so you know
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  Speaker 5: you specifically during Ramadan when things.
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  Speaker 4: Happen, like the other day, somebody was like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're just so.
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  Speaker 5: Calm, like you just seem unfazed by everything. I'm like, really,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, it's we're fascinating's a spiritual time.
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  Speaker 5: And so I'm one of my business and this girl.
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  Speaker 4: Is like pushing me like aggressively. So the first two times.
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  Speaker 5: Like I let it wrong and then I was like,
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  Speaker 5: are you okay, like because now I'm wondering if.
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  Speaker 4: You're if you're if everything is alright. She lost it.
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  Speaker 5: She started cursing. I'm like, all right, so I walk
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  Speaker 5: up the stairs. She do I'm like, just don't push
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  Speaker 5: me again. We get up to the top of the
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  Speaker 5: stairs and she did a little showed the check. The
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  Speaker 5: next thing, before I even knew what was happening, my
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  Speaker 5: hands was around my neck like like it happened so fast.
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  Speaker 4: And then mind I'm like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 5: I'm about to get into a fight because she's probably
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  Speaker 5: gonna hit me back. Like you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be in a fight. I'm on my way
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  Speaker 5: to work. What am I going to tell them? It's
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Ramanin I having a white heat jab, Like this is crazy.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: And then I was like she looked like she was
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: about to when I just leaned and I'm like, do
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: not let this he jab fool you.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: And then she just.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Like backed up and she kept talking. I'm like, oh,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you can say what you want to say. I'm just
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: letting you know, like, don't do that again.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: And then I was so angry at myself. I'm like,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: how did I let her push me during Ramadan? How
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: did I let her push me here? But so here's
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: the thing.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: When women are on their cycle, they can't fast, and
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: so it's so crazy because a lot of people will
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: look at.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Us like, oh, you lucky, Like, yeah, you don't have.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: To fast, right, But you feel so left out, like
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: especially if you are already rocking and rolling and then
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: now you're like, oh, I got to set this out.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: You feel like you're missing out on like blessings, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: but you could also feel the difference in like your temperament.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: I feel like when you know when you're fasting versus
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: when you're not.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: But I was so mad at myself. I'm like, how
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: did I help push me? Old P came out?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about Yeah, yo, listen, listen tapping.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: She's still the plug.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: But positive positive anything.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: You go in to P for dates, no, I am
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: no listener.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: It work though, Listen. I became the date plug for sure.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I found it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Trying to do this was one of the hardest things
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I've ever done in my life, obviously because of what
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: y'all said.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Just trying to be walking a more positive, higher plane.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: That's difficult in itself, not cursing, not reacting, but I
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: came out of it. Also, I'm I ain't gonna lie.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I was trying to be perfect mm hmm. And I
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: got to the point where I think.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I broke You don't need to, don't you don't need to.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: And I do a play party party it was you
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: can't hit.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: The It was playing before I even knew I was
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: doing it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It's my point, how did I do it? You should
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and I did not participate. I did not participate.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: That's even worse.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Facilitating the malarkey is crazy. Listen, you didn't facilitate the malarkey,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the mudgement because you don't like that community. So this
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: is you biased.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: I don't like, I don't dislike. Let's not do that
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: because now you don't get me canceled for that. I don't.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think did you get canceled for not liking
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the sexual community.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: I've seen people cancel forward, So I don't want that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Problem in any case, it was, it was it was difficult.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Did you did you?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: What was your challenge? Was there any challenges that you have.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: The crime?
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: So remember I had made a post and you were like,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know when you wrote under it, and you
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: were like I don't know what any of this means,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and I was it could go either way, go either way.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: So you're supposed to read. So you're supposed to get
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: through the whole book.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Right, and so it's broken down and it's broken down
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: into what's called Jew's right, So there's thirty of them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: So each day you're supposed to read. So that's what
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: the that post was about. So when you get up
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: in the morning, it's like you gotta prepare your.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Food, you eat, you make, who do you pray? You're
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: supposed to read the crime. What we'll do is evolution.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: So like before you as I know what.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: You're trying to I'm not doing that Muslims and not.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: As I know, but you voo, I did not think
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: and I didn't.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Know what okay, So we'll do so essentially, before you pray,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: you gotta cleanse your body, okay. And so you're supposed
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: to read the just now. Some people will read it
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: right then and there some people say they're going to
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: read it throughout the day. For me, I'm like, I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I'm better off just doing it then because I already
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: know work is not so feasible for me to get
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: through it. And you know, the first you know, you
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: rocking and rolling, and then you know you kind of
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: start start to falter. So I think that that was
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: probably my.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: M A right, please all that's wrong, Like we.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: All know that after I did it after the fast
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: at night or like after your after your shift, or after.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Two seconds from behind the sea, it doesn't matter.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I told you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I told you that it did not matter after something exactly.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I wasn't getting on you too much.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And I've been to prison.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: And another thing about that, I kept that mental note
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: because you definitely posted on Instagram like a picture of
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: a magazine was like, had my mother bring it in
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: a public space.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to That was Twitter magazine you
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: made your mother bring bring you buck Booty magazines.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I sent him some to.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Friend that your mother.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was bad.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: That was a hard time, but I love that lady
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: for real.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it real with you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I realized how messed up that was that I asked
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: my mother, they understand what button Man magazine.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Magazine is aggressive? Crazy, crazy?
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: I remember that went to you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I know what it is.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: Why I'm like you had your you didn't have trump.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: You like you got a play. I think.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Your mouse, but man is crazy. You're not is over.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter a queen, thank you?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Can you see the butt?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: All right? Cancer? But man magazine. I'm sorry I didn't.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I couldn't say that, my bad, yo. Just the name
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: of it came like that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: They're gonna make They're gonna make that a couple.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: That's a special section. It was in plastic and plastic
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: It's a freaky Section's gonna convenience at the freaking section.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But that's a part of what I said, Yo, I've
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: been yo that when I was in prison, the no
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: sex was the worst part of that. It wasn't the nigga.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: It wasn't the niggas. It wasn't the fact that I
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: couldn't like nothing else. It was the no women and
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: then no sex. That was the worst part of prison
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: for me. Like that's why when I came out, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't need this life no more because
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I could get as much pussy as y'all getting with
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: all this money I could get working, I don't there's
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: no reason for me to be away from women for
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: years my life for what?
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: For what? You never trying man down to guard a
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: lady A guard a lady God.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The only lady God that I had was like eighty
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: years old, and she I fantasized about her often.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I couldn't wait till she came her. That's gotta be her.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: She was white and she was a silver head religion.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: She was just silver hair and she she was not
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: good looking at all. She was sorry yesterday.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So how did we get here?
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Anyway?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: No, I did bring it back. We bring it back
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: before you go ahead.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: When I started doing this and I got to the
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: point with the no sex maybes a week and a
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: half back, around two weeks, I started to feel like
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: prison again. It started to feel like that was the
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: reason why I said I'm never hustling again. The reason
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: why I said I'm never I'm not going back to prison.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: And I was like, why am I denying myself this again?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Discipline I broke discipline?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Well, wife, he broke wife.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: He broke it on my birthday.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Way to blame, Way to blame a woman. It was
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: February twenty fifth, you know, blame We started you said.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: That, you were like, we're going to see you reached
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: across and it was waiting.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: They had their they had a mental connection.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: We don't need the details.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: I just need the clarity who had the mental connection.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: There's no mental connection there because there's no you know what,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: She's right? I got to I got two questions I
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: have always had about it's my one of my best friends,
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: my my shooter on my my content shooter punch. He's
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: a muscle. Yeah I wouldn't be, but he's Muslim, so
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: he's always talking to me about the heath and whatnot.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: So I always have you two questions. He get mad
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: when I asked one of them.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Is it disrespect and not respect?
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: He don't get mad. He actually be like, you have
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: a point. So I'm gonna ask that one first. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: I don't feel the way that y'all don't got like
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: y'all do y'all feel like you can have more members
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: of the faith if y'all have better praise and worship
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: music like y'all don't got.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Y'all don't got no melodies from heaven?
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Do you ever listen to a Quran recitation? Did you
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: listen to the stuff I sent you?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Nah?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to you that I heard it before.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, like, listen, listen to me.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I will literally I was brought to tears several times
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: this Ramadan from just like during prayer, like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Like you're hearing the prayer.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Like there's this this kid at my man ship. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: don't want to call him kid.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: He's a teenager.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: He's a her fist, so he he knows the entire Quran,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: like he has a memorized.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, the way he recites and I don't know, there's
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: just a beauty.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I love when black people could recite Koran like perfect.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Imagine so to me, when people are like praise and
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: worship songs, I don't know nothing like the Quran.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like you want.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: To have a verses like you don't have.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: A red world in his hands? And now, no, bro,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: don't don't represent us? What don't that's not the song.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: That's I'm just asking General may I Muslim.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Right, let's go for five off the top of head.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: What you want to do.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Muslim trap karaoke right here?
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: And we would never.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Stu for lie.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: You're getting better.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: It's getting tight, all right.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: So there's two things.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: One, the first part of your question Islam is like
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: the fastest growing religion in the world. I just saw
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: something today actually that in Japan they had to have
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: five prayers because that's how many Muzzis was out there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: That's because they like black culture.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: That this is true.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Now, come on, don't you can't take that one from
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Queen please?
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: When you think about the world, no, no, let's look at no, no, no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: let's look.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: At the world.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Right when you do you think that when people think
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: of Muslims, think of globally. When people think of Muslims,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: they don't think of black people. Maybe here in New York,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: but when you think about the world, they're not thinking about.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Black Your Japanese and Asian culture specifically are always watching
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: what black people do because they have to sell us stuff.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: But even even when you look at that, I don't
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: think when people when they think of black people, they
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: think Muslims.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: No, I agree with you, even on a world stick.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: It's on a world scale, but one of the biggest
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: purveyors of black culture.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: But think about it, like, we live in New York,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: so we have everyone has known a Muslim person.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: You will be surprised how many times someone finds out
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: that I'm Muslim and they proceed to ask me multiple
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: questions to try to figure out how I could possibly
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: be Muslim.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: It's like, so, where are you from here? No?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: But to where are your parents from here? No, you're
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: not from like, you're not from Sudan. No, I'm literally
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: from Brooklyn.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, so in your.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Muslim No, I'm just wearing a hey jab because I
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: feel like it, like what I mean.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Six, I've seen people do crazier things just be wearing stuff.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: So it's like I always have to like being a
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: black Muslim is like something you just have.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: To justify, especially because you got a Yankee handle.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Why don't you face fine every day outfit to be Muslim?
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Sometimes so it's.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Kind of like I'm pretty sure people be like, wait,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: is this really the other day?
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: This lady, she was to the point where I had
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: to tell them, like, you're and it's at work, So
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I'm like trying to really and I'm like.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: You're being offensive right now?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Because she was pretty much trying to like tell me
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: that I need to dress like how the people and
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: do by dress.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I'm at work. I'm not coming through
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: with a full on a bayo, Like.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: It's crazy.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: They do that to her a lot like they try
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to tell her that she's.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Not more I'm you know, if you go over there,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: you gotta dress more modest, you know. And I'm just like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: what are.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: They talking about?
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Some you know, some people are very it's no different
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: than Christians. How some are very very extreme, very religious.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Some Muslims are like, women shouldn't wear pants like some people.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: That's how you know extreme they are. You know what
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I'm saying For me, it's like, look, be modest real quickly.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: When it comes to your dress and faith, dedication to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the culture.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I've seen women not be Muslim, but have were born
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: into a Muslim family, but literally just dressed like us.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: They're not and then they jump in mm hmmm, what
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: is that like? I feel like that's something.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: It's like when you first met me.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I was running around with the with the long skirt,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: with the pants under my skirt, like.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: You meant it, you meant it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I have a choice, parents, my grand my grandparents. The lady,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, no way, no you can't.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: It's right, it's right here, lady bug. I don't want
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: to touch it. You see it's a lady.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Now it's on your should.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Why are we doing this because I.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Don't want to.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: It's a lady, ladybug? Right did fall?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Why did you need a lady?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: It's a bug. I don't know how.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: You would have started crawling.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And I would have been wrong, right, I would have
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: been wrong.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: That would have been a room.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: I thought, Just like, there's a lot of things about
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: the Islamic faith that I knew before today. I never
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: knew how to say properly. Learned that today, say the
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: whole thing destroyed.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: I used to say, I ead morbot, but now I
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: know it's eating more about bar I ead.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: It's actually how like because when you.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: See the word E I D I'm like, I E.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: But then I just heard y'all.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: I never heard anybody say it before to that, I've
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: already just read it when I when I heard when
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: I heard y'all say, and.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I was saying happy, and she was like, no, it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: it's just one word. It's it's it's the same he's happy, Yeah,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you happiness happy happy. Well, I'm just trying to figure
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: it out. Also, I would you know, whenever you want to,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: For that, all right, Yeah, gonna pull I'm gonna pull
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: it up. But you were asking me something else.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: So okay, so look it's something as the fastest growing religion, right.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: So it's not about oh, we need more people to
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: be Muslim. Yes, like we what we call is dal
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: war right when we when we talk to people about
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: the religion, right and and and you know I spread
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: the word word right right, right, So of course we
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: always excited.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: We we like when people join, you know, the community.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: But it's like people do what they do.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Like you know, Christians, they have the symbols and the
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: dance and all that, and then we have.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know what that was. I would never do
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: that for y'all.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I mean this is the symbol, you know, Like.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I want to know what she was because she said
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: I really wanted to move.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: You asked about the clothes, right, I.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Sus question the more serious question. So this one is
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: kind of like more like an interpersonal like between like
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: racial identity in the culture. So in a religion, like
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: in my studies, the religion has always been.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Very specific to Allah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: I never had any uh culture, never had any state
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: that was to one land. Right, So as black people,
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: how do y'all uh, I guess not justified, but how
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: do y'all kind of identify with a culture of a
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: religion that is very much tied to the That's.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: A really good question. That's a really really good question.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: There is layered, right, So, and that's part of I
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: think I was telling you that, you know, sometimes what
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I've experienced, or what a lot of Black Muslims experience,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: is that like when it comes to non Black Muslims
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: where sometimes we feel like I told you, like, sometimes
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I'll give an our person a salam and they won't
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: say it back, you know, they look at you like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: you know, and like when I go to like an
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Arab master, it's like I feel like I don't belong here.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like you feel like they feel like
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: the religion belongs to them, you understand, And it's like, okay, yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: because that's where everything, like you know, originated. However, a
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: law is a law, a law is everywhere, you know
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: what I mean, Like he not just in Saudi Arabia,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: in Saudi Arabia.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: And so I think as black.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: People in general, we have our own culture and we
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: have our own you know, identities, right, and when we
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: look at the landscape of it all, it's like we
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: read the same book, we pray the same way, like
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: no one owns that. And a lot of times people
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: conflate the religion.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: With the culture very very often.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: And so it's like there are certain things that are
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: part of agriculture that people just automatically associate with Islam
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: and it's like, nah, not really, that's just how.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Y'all do things right, you know what I mean.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: And so that also, you know, ties into some of
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: the struggles that you have as a black Muslim, like,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: for example, not dancing right. So when I first started
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: getting back on my dean, my friends had a very
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: difficult time with understanding, like.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I can't be coming out no more, Like I.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Can't be coming to these parties, and you know, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: they're like why not.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like they're like, oh, just sit down. I'm like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I can't just sit there. If I'm here, I'm not
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: there yet, you know what I'm saying.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Like if I hear cash money, if I hear something,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: I'm compelled to move. I'm like, that's in our Like
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's in our DNA, you know, Like
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: automatically we hear a beat drop, we want to move.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: But then it's like I gotta be conscious because as
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: a woman, I wear my religion.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Muslim men, they could be outside frolic and engaging in
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: all kinds of shanning hands, but nobody would know, but
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: they would definitely notice if the girl.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: In the he jabb is melli rocking and turket. You
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody's getting video or that. But I gotta, I gotta
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: respond to this and the questions for you because with
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: it Christianity, what land is Christianity tattoo? Originally?
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Why not Jus? Are you?
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: There's no what I say that is there's no race identity.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be. Why not you me king of Jewish?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Jesus was the king of Jews?
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: How do you But I'm asking you to ask yourself
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: the same question that you asked her.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: I get that I'm saying he was dubbed that after
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: his death. It's not that he was walking around.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: The question was you said it was tied to a land,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: that religion was tied to a land, and how she
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you know, how do black Muslims identify with it? Being
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: that it's largely tied over there, but Christianity was brought
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: over here on the same thing. So how do black
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: especially especially black people, identify with so largely about the
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: King of Jews and Jerusalem.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: So Christianity has uh decade, decades, has centuries worth of
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: ties to Africa to uh Now, obviously the way they
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: uh interact with the with the faith is could be
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: different from how we do it in America. Christianity, along
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: with over here during.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Chattel slavery, the Black Church.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Given to us by who they want to give it
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: to us, by anyone, came.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Christianity was not given to black people.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: That is when that is where we are wrong white
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: because I thought the white people get That's why I
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: said Christianity and Ifa both came over here on the
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: slave ships. So people in Africa, Africans were already practicing Christianity.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: That's why they used the preachers once they got over
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: here to subdue the slave They used those who were
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: considered preachers in those tribes were preachers over here, and
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: they would use them to subdue the slaves.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I want, I want to I want to disagree with you, not.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: All though not of course, not of course, not all,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: but what I'm saying so the.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: White folks, who was it? I want to say natural,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: I don't want to I think you're talking about that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: But it was like, you know, when they came here,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: we had the land and they had a Bible.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: And when they left, we had a Bible and they
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: had our land.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, so it's like, of course there was you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: remnants of it everywhere, but.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I don't give me sta Well, obviously,
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say obviously, I think that's a
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: bit disrespectful.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: With those Bibles that once.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: Again the slaves overall were taught, weren't allowed to read.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: There was a reason why there was a reason why
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: they weren't allowed to read. And then as you talk
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: about somebody like that Turner, that Turner uh story talks about,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: he didn't he didn't have that awakening until he found
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: the rest of the Bible. They were giving him parts
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: of the Bible that would keep him a slave and
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: would keep telling people to keep being slaves and just
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: quell them. And then when he read the entire Bible
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: for himself had his own understanding of the full context
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: of the word, then it was all right, now you're
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: white people, better die. So what I say, you got
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: to die. So what I say is but to answer
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: your question fully, I think because I don't know. I
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: don't know if there's a black Uh what do you
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: call your temple the Master? I don't know. I don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: know if there's a Black mastered as an institution, like
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: there's a Black Church. Now, that does not mean I'm
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: saying the Black Church without problem. Uh, they're not behind
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: the gun. The Black Church to be doing a lot
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: better issued with the Black Church as the as an
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: institution and how the way they failed their community. I'm
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: just saying, yo, yo yo, understand. I'm just saying I
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: don't I don't want anybody to care as making this.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: We're having to pay for a reverend to come and
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: she was part of that church for fifty years.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: When she passed away.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Well, that's that's an honorary, bro. That's she's big on bro.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: That's I get what you're saying.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And she was big on tithing, she was big on participating.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: She was part of the church.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: She's part of the thing, part of them from years,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: my entire adult life, she was part of them my
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: entire life, forget adult from a baby.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I'm with you and you and we had to pay
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: him three hundred dollars. What is that?
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: That was a good price, But what is that why
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: you need that it's a standard practice.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Well, because you want to take, you want to take,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: and you want to call.
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: It a contribution where it's not necessarily like this, this
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: is like the suggested contribution. I'm not saying I think
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: that's fucked up. I think that's as a matter of fact,
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: I actually I don't want to see renounce. But that
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: definitely put a block and being between that and that
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: and that religion.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that any any interpersonal interaction with a
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: person of faith shouldn't cause you to renounce the faith.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Right Like, I'm not going to have a I'm not
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: going to go back forth with somebody in the black
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: shirt and be like, yeah, I'm good on Christianity, I'm
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: good on you, and I'm good on this institution.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Right like I just went through that. We'll have a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: problem with Christianity.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I have a problem with the way the reverence and
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the money. No it is and so but this isn't
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: about Jesus, isn't about God, This isn't about the Bible,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: this is about the Holy Rosary, this isn't about none
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: of that. This is about the way it's organized and
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: the way it sucks the life from perform from the
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Black community that ya, we need y'all and in times
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: like this you're not there, and the way that I
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: would think that you need to.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: In the fact that you're even showing off. Why is
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a reverend need a Rose Royce? Why when your community
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: is in shambles.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I agree with you that the mega churches, Yeah, that
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: bothers me a little bit. With the distribution of the
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: distribution of the wealth when it comes to the church,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: it just feels I.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Mean, that's a bigger conversation. I don't want you to
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: have to defend them. I'm just speaking on.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: My I won't ever defend Christianity. I will discuss my
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: relationship with Christ, but I won't I won't argue for Christianity.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: I will never do that because the way Christianity or
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Black the Black Church has failed the Black community time
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: after time after time out of time.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: At thirty six years old, at the.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Point I am in my life, I would never tell
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: somebody that I would say you should find in poorant
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: to your relationship with Christ.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: That's what you should do, or or if it's with
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Allah or.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: With can I ask you a question, and I don't
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: want to be disrespectful. And I've asked many Christians this question,
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: and I feel like I never get the answer, Like
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: I feel like I never get like a real answer.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: So like Muslims, we like we we like Jesus, you know,
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: like we believe.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: So a lot of times people think that where it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Gets not like Jesus was you know, all prophet like
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: like we you know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: But why is it that you kind of like worship
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Jesus and not God?
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: So, oh, that's a good question, and hopefully I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: it's easy to answer.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: You asked me what we're doing, so you see what
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: you're doing right now we're doing.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I'm just like trying to save trying to save the
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: show we got. This is me me, So hopefully I can.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: It's a simple answer, and I think the people who
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: can't answer it I have not read their word. So
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: the reason it may seem that way, Jesus and God
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: are one. Once he left, once he left the two
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: once he ascended, him and God were and then he
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: was back with the Father, And the scripture says he
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: was back with the Father. So Jesus and God are
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: the same. They're one and the same. By the scripture
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: says the only that Jesus said, the only past to
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: my father's through me, which is why you say in
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: Jesus name the amen. But so once he died for
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: our sins and went to heaven, he became one with
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: his father. So it may seem that way. And also
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: it goes back to like what I was joking about
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: earlier about like pr when you be hearing these songs,
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: you hear Jesus, you hear Jesus, You hear Jesus, easier
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: to it's easier to push that right because now it's
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: no right. But when you see God, you can't sell.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: You can't sell as many T shirts as you could
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: sell with God with Jesus. So it's also like capitalism
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: and marketing. Well, it's about to start talking to him
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: about about what was going on in the Black church,
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: because the Black church is just performing the same capitalism
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: that the government is right so like not not distributing
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: funds properly, making it all about the pastor instead of
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: the people. So but that is why that happens a lot.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: Did people tend to misconstruc it, and then you have
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: people that don't read and they're just out here is
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: saying their favorite scripture.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: It's just bad pr Okay.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: So y'all believe that Jesus and God is one.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, and the Holy Ghost is in it too. Yes,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: that's the Holy Trinity.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: So now I I'm churchy, but I don't know as
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: much about the Holy Ghost in the in the way
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: in the Holy Spirit. Probably that maybe someone should, so
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: that would probably be a better part than anybody else.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: No, No, there's there are people.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: I've heard it explain, and I don't think I've ever
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: heard it explain in the same way.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm not really sure how the Holy Spirit
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: comes into play.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I just know that they're all three.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: They're all three. That's the Holy Trinity. That's the that's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the Big three. I think I feel like to get
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: away from this right. I feel like people who practice
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Islam or are Muslim active, I'm more serious about their
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: religion than Christians. I want to argue that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: I want to argue that because to be at least
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: from what I I think, that's why we respect them
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: so much. What I've seen and what I've heard and
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: what I've witnessed, it's what we want people to be
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: when we're discussing Christianity. I want you to have a
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: relationship with Christ. Right what does a relationship? I mean
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: relationship means I am not not doing something because of this.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: I'm doing it because I don't want to wrong you.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be I understand that you Dieves said.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: I understand that you forgive me every day I wake up.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: I understand that every time I send you say forgiveness
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: should be seventy times seven. The son should not set
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: on my rant. I understand that. So hopefully I'm living
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: a life that agrees with your relationship.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And that's funny that you say that, because I remember
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I was a witness to fight arguing altercation right where
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: and it was just one dude who's super religious, and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: he's like some dude.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Try to press him and he's on them. What you want,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: what you want? And I had to pull.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: Them to the side.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, it's during this time right now that
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: all of the religion and all the things that you
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: tell me about, you know, this is when it matters
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: right now, when you're being tested. You can't just throw
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: it out the window and they just become a regular.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: They go up the street right now Christian Christian, but
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: There's voice when it comes like.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: Christians are the most lax, most like and even like,
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: and there's different sects within that like conflicts this that's
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: why is a little bit more disciplined. But for the
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: most part, it's like a lot of Christians can kind
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: of move freely. A lot it's not as disciplined.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: I think it's because of what I think it's because
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: of people get too hide behind accountability or lack of accountability,
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: like when I think of it, when I when I
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: hear about the Muslim faith, there's acountability praying five times
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: a day Ramadan am I am I incorrect when I
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: say Ramadas twice a year or no.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: There's two eats Ramadan is although in twenty twenty, in
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: a few years, Ramadan is gonna there's gonna be two
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Ramadan's in Ramadan in one year, and it's gonna be
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: that that year is going to be like it's going
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: to be like Christmas Ramadan, like all the holidays for
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: all the face is all going to be like in
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: that December, which is kind of.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: At the end of it, I said, I'll probably never
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: do this again. Because I still don't know when to eat.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I still I'm still like, I still feel no. Right
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: now it is over and I'm still not comfortable with doings.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I feel guilty getting the French toast at eleven, like
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not such no bro, Listen, you can
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: say what you want. You're you're actually right.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I did, but I did yesterday. But I took away
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: from this.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: For one, there is a sense of positivity that I
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: took away from Ramadan and the way that I talk
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: to people, the way that I look at life. It
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: was pouring rain today and pouring and I was outside
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: working pouring like cats and dogs.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And my man was like, I'm like.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Bro, we got a job, bro, we you know, we look.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: It's people out there that don't bro. It's people that
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: stand on line five hours right now. I was online
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: at LGA yesterday, four and a half hours in Atlanta
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: coming back to coming back. I was online, and I
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: think that I was. I never got tight. I laughed
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: even in the video that too. You heard me laughing.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: There's a sense of peace when it comes to Ramadan.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: If you're trying, if you practice that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: I think, come down there there's a level of accountability
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: that everyone that what I've went to the level of
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: accountability that comes with the Islamic faith.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: That doesn't really Why wouldn't you Never would you ever
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: try Ramadan? No? Would you ever be a Ramadanian? No?
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: I tried, and I was like, I tried.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: When I was with Raw, I tried and I was like, Nah,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: what made you do that?
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: Why that? Because I was I want to make sure
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: as a what's the word, I don't know what to
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: I hate or it's trying to identify something as an
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: ally of all black people. I make sure I want
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: I never want any black person to ever feel singled
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: out bout it right and that or feel like off
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: put right. And I am very churchy, I tell people
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: to I.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Was raised in church.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: The Church imprinted on me.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: No matter what issues I have with the Black Church
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: or specific people, I'm never going to let that affect
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: my relationship with Christ. And then he says, be loving
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: of all people so I can practice Ramadana. I'm not
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: denouncing Christ by trying by standing with someone who, especially
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: at the time I was with Raw every day. To me,
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: it would seem almost disrespectful for him to still train
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: me during ramadant and me and at least not tried.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: I tried, I lasted a few hours.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: What would you ever do it?
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: You know what? I would The hardest thing for me
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: would be the eating part, because right now I'm on
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: my you know, in the gym, I'm on my gym.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to gain weight, so I'm eating four or
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: five meals a day. If I can't eat from sun
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: to sunder, and that throws my whole shit off. So
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: maybe if I get to a certain weight and I'm
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: good and I could do it, that's the hardest part.
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: I actually love all the other things about it, about
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: the positive thinking about you know, not cussing. I like
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: the discipline part of it. And I can say, like
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: I don't prescribe to any religion, but I like to
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: pull things from each religion that I identify with. You know,
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: I got some good friends that's Jewish, and I love
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: how it like the way you talk about the Black Church,
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: Like the Jewish folks are the direct opposite. It's in
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: the Torah for them to share and for them to
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: like get they get loans, no interest loans from their community.
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: They don't even you know, have to like each other
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: and know each other.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: You can't go to the black church and be like, yo,
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: I've been tithing all this time, Can I get a loan?
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: They was.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: There was a lady that told about my whole life.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: How went to that church for seventeen years. I did
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: not leave that church. I was like seventeen eighteen. The
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: building phone did the whole time, never own the building,
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: They rented the building.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I said, what fun so.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Real quick when you were when you talked about like
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: just as far as the institution, like so Islam is
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: in America because of black people. Yes, so like for example,
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: like my mas shit was one of Malcolm X's temples, right,
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: it was temple number seven eight, And so you know
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: Islam came here. You know, it was kind of like
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Nation of Islam, which then you know evolved a lot
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: of people. Well you know, you became you know, Sunni Muslim.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: But so your point similar to like Jewish people or
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: like what you were saying about the pastor charging is
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: like in Islam, like one of our pillars is to give,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: Like that's literally part of our religion. Like that's one
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: of our pillars is to give to cot So it's
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: like you're supposed to give to the needy.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: You're supposed to.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Give, and that is you're not looking for anything in return, right,
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: but it's like you need something, I got it here.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: So it's like, I don't know if y'all remember it
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: was a few months ago when viral where this lady
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: was like calling churches asking for like milk, I did.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: And then when she was called like all the churches
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: were dubbing huh. But the Muslim she called the moss,
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: they was like, what you need come?
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: So like when we give zct like we give it's
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: literally for when some money is in need.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Then it's like we got you know, there's funds here
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: and then here we're gonna don't have a.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: Black church and the ones it does if they are
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: the outliers, like those are the ones where you're like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: those aren't the ones that are represented? Was represented is
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: the pilfer us right, the ones that this is this
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: is skin.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: They have got me some jay Z tickets today. I
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: would have went to the mosque.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Yo, I need tickets.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: How is that wrong?
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: You think saying that.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Like give you if you think they're gonna give you
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: that good money?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: If you say you.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: Need we don't even belong in no concerts. Listen, this
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: is something, right, I'll just tell you. So it's like
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: I made a video because everybody talking about the Muslims
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: back outside. I'm like, the muslim shouldn't be back outside,
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: like we should be back outside, but in the best way, right,
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: And so you know, we all struggle with certain things.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: So Cardi B is on tour, right, So when she
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: and now said, I'm like, I'm like, oh, were outside,
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: we're outside, you know. And then I'm like, no, it's
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: about to be doing Ramadan, right.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: So then my sister's like, yo, actually I said, Marama.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: T want me over.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: It's lit. So now as we're approaching the.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Time, I'm like, Princess, you you really about you just fasted?
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: You're about to go to a Cardi B concert. I
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: can't do it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: And I said, wow, I'm really growing because when people
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: think about like this, you.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Can't separate the art from the music. I'm like religion.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I just I'm gonna have to shut down,
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Like when she comes to New York, I'm gonna have
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: to not be on social media because I'm.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: Gonna be tight.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Like but if I get you some tickets.
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: You're not gonna go.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: You cannot separate the art from the art from the religion.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: You can't be like Yo, I just like this as
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: the person as an artist, because she's talking about her butt, because.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking about I'm like, Yo, if I'm at a
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: PARTI concert.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Is that you're allowed to live your life?
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Live your life for Yeah, that's wild. It's It's just
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: it's just a concert.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: You're putting yourself in a position where what am I'm
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: going to be rapping about crazy things? I know all
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: the lyrics somebody, and it's just gonna put me back
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: in that in that zone where I don't really need
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: to be.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: And that's that's it's been. It's been. It's been tough.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: But as a Ramadanian, that comes to the message you
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: m hm said, Yo, I need twenty two hundred dollars
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: for these whole tickets.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: Close the door, dub I want them to. I want
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: them to slam the door. Serious, Yes, did you get tickets?
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: My tickets are free. I wouldn't I would not pay
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: and I love y'all know how I feel about hope.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: At this point in my life, I would not pay
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: any money. For a jay Z concert that well, he's
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: a billionaire, okay, a capitalist.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I don't support capitalists. You're not a capitalist, not at all.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: I'm someone, I'm someone to vibing capitalism, but I'm not
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: a capitalist.
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: So if you had one hundred million, will be all right. Okay,
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: So it's a billionaire threshold.
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: There's no way you can be a billionaire and be
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: ethical outside of selling a product. A one point. I
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: agree with that, and that's because to make I don't
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: think people understand you're putting on a concert.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think you understand.
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: I don't think people people don't understand how much money
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: a billion dollars and what it takes to amass that.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: If your business is amassing a billion dollars, the only
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: way you can do that is by not paying your
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: people livable wages.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: That's unethical.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Disagree it's the truth.
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: There's no disagreeing there trying that's the truth. If namely,
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: one person that's a billionaire that pays their company a livable.
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: Wage actually sort of tell us, actually sort of tell
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: us for I'm not a script is she considered to be?
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: That's not a livable wage.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: The reason I'm telling.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: You all right, so tell us what she gave out
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: a like.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: It was like it was like six figures six and
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: we're talking about five hundred thousand to fifty type shit.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: Right one time, because people have to live a life.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: That was give me right a bonus of five hundred
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: to fifteen.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: The reason I tell you can't do that pay a
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: person a livable wages because that means you you you
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: would have to then tell me what a person is worth.
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: You would have to do it too. No, you would
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: have to. I would never do that.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: The fact that you can say that they're not it
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: means that you're defining their worth in some way. If
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: I'm giving you five hundred and you're saying that's not worth,
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: it's not enough, you're defining it.
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: I sit in front of you, if you're a billionaire
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: and you say, mouse song would like to hire you?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: What does it cost? Like, what what does it cost
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: me to hire you?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: And I say mouse between me going to work and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: me doing my job, I got the kids, I got
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: the wife. How many one point five? What are you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: gonna say?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: The draft karaoke for free? Okay?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: And this is the problem, this is an argument. I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: have a lot with black people, that we miss a lot.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm here and I didn't mean that, but I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: truly mean we missed the point.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: Someone existing in surviving capitalism does not mean I support
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: capitalism by practice, I'm a social.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: How many shows did you do this year?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: I did, I'm not I've done.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: How many of them did you do for free?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: Zero? Because I live in a capitalist society?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Right and pain?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: So you're and you probably have way more money than
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: almost everybody in this room.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: You have way more money than everybody in this room
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: because of what you get paid by doing these tours?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: No? You're wrong?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: So you don't don't know.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: How much money I make compare to everybody? Am I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: anything wrong?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: How much that half court?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: This was free? That it came?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, how much it costs? I don't know how much
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: it costs? Now?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Stop right, because what you're doing. Listen, the man put
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: is putting on a concert. His art is worth. I'm
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: not talking about it. Says thirty year anniversary, and I'm
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: going to go.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: But I'm not going to pay a.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Twenty five year anniversary. I don't pay capitalists. The point
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: is how much you paying so much heart, I'm paying.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: Toes for what he did, paying for Untilia Tones for
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: what he did at the Barclays.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: What do you do gentrification? Gentrification?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I want you to look at
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: everything us research.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: That's why you ain't gotting.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: And this is why I feel I don't feel like
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: he purposely did. Now this could be me being the
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: whole power. So I do think Hope got.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Played gentrification in Brooklyn.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: So they they genuinely The owner of the Barclays spoke
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: with Jeffrey Epstein and they spoke and they say, you
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: know what, the hip hop guys, they got it, the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: hip hop guy, that's what you need. They wanted to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: buy up all that area, and they wanted to push
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: those people out, and they wanted to build that uh
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: that arena. They want to build that stadium, arena's arena
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: they want to be. They want to buy Bill Barclays. Well,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: we're gonna make jay Z the face of the Nets
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: one and give him a one point five percent steak
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: in the New Jersey Nets and now the Brooklyn Nets.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: And he's going to get everybody on board to support
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: this move.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: And once we support this move, this looks good. This
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: looks good. I genuinely think jay Z just wanted to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: make good money and want to do something that was
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that looked good to diversify portfolio.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: You don't have your rug with you? Yeah, I do,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: like just just lay it out. Do you think going
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: to pray?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: So I genuine believe he wanted to diversify the portfolio.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: Don't think it's as menacing as it as it happened.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: How many other people have one point five I don't
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: menacing at all.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: I don't think menacing has to be intentional for it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: to be menacing. So but once he were just remember
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: what happened is and I know both of y'all know
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: what happened there because they were threatening imminent domain, which
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: means they were going to take these people laying no
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: matter what.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: So all the people who owned their homes, right.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: Because we have to take all that into account, all
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: the people that owned their home, they got pennies on
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: the dollar homes that that that were praising for one
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: point five two million dollars a day, they were paid
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: forty fifty sixty thousand dollars for and were sent down south.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: And then the people who were renting there. They're going
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: they can't live there. The people love to bring up that.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I think they said.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: I think the number right now is like somewhere between
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: seventy nine percent of the people that work at Barclays
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: are black. They can't afford to live around the Barclays.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: But they did create jobs though, and them not being
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: able to afford to live in that area I could
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: say happened before the Barclays came into Brooklyn. Gentrification really started,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: you know, lifting off, like around the recession of two
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: thousand and eight recession. I remember that. I remember that time.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: That's when the cribs in the sky doubled in price
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: and everything because white folks got priced out of Manhattan
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: and started coming into Brooklyn. It wasn't all about the Barclays.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Concipticly, it was kind of the Barclays had a big
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: part of that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I disagree what that was.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: They were being talked about that from two thousand and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: two to two thousand and three. It was already in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: the planning. White people are where you say colonizers. Colonizers
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: they knew this was coming, and they came in mass
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: because they already knew what this neighborhood was going to be. Like,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: they didn't move to Eastern Yod originally. They moved here
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: the best die. They moved to Crown Hikes, they moved
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: to borhom Hills, they moved to Cobble Hills.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: They moved them in the space that they knew the.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Prices would double, would triple, and they could take advantage
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: of it. I just think they colonized this area of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: what was happening.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: For a lot of things that just happened naturally whenever
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: big business happened, whenever, but they.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: Didn't just happen actually when in the face of.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: It, whenever moves happened. Property is being bought and sold.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: There's always going to be people that are affected negatively
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: and positively. Right, So there's gonna property value is going
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: to go up. The black homeowners in the area are
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: going to benefit from that, including myself.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: The jobs were created.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: Black people in the area are going to benefit from that.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: Now you got eight but they're not black people of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: the area.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: They're black people.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: Black people are now black people in Brooklyn. They didn't
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: work there, that work that have jobs now, so you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: could talk about to live wasn't going to be able
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: to afford them anyway, because it's Fort Green. It's always
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: been gentiation. Happened before Barclays came gentrific.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I'm talking in that specific area.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: Remember what that area looked like. Remember what, and when
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: I say looked like.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Was always I mean people high price.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: Remember what the what those people look like today? Do
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: those people look that way? That is not because of
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: the I'm just asking a question and I'm saying they
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: look different. But gentrification has so many different causes. You
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: can't blame jay Z. I'm not blaming. I'm not solely
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: because he was a part of that. He was the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: You don't think that walks you off the plank.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: I have to apologize for walking out off the plank
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the plank.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, I live here, I think, with all due respect,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: you just got here. Sure, I'm glad that happened in
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: ways because these houses was boarded up. There was crack houses,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: They was fucking beer bottles. Everything was bro I'm not
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: going to say that, but my kids gotta walk up
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: these blocks.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: It was shootings everywhere.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: When they started cleaning that up like they did Atlanta
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: up for the Olympics, and when they.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Know the money's coming, they start cleaning up.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: It does benefit Like yo, bro, I wouldn't have this,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: and it wouldn't be like this if it wasn't for that,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't And with all due respect, when.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Was it gonna happen? We needed white people to judgify it?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna say that because we wasn't gonna do
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: we was gonna do it. I love you who.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Wasn't don't care who was going to change?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: That's one of the most ignorant statements you could have made.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: I think that that is that is.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I don't care because I was here what I was here. Okay,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: you were not here, you lived you.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: I agree with you. You lived through that. I get that.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: But who was going to fix the neighborhood up? The
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: people that who was gonna change?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Be it fucking ship up out here everywhere we went,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: so the kids had to live through that out here?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: So who's gonna change it?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: So white people came in and they rescued you. Okay,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: they rescued you. They rescued the neighborcation changed his neighborhoods.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: It made it livable for who made it livable for
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: the people that lived here.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: And if you couldn't afford it. It is what it is.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: I disagree with this. I don't think it's disgusting.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's white folks can he finished, is
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: very disgusted.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: My bad.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 8: There's a lot of black folks in this community that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: own that owned businesses, the own property, that have been here,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: and that helped cultivate the change of the new Brooklyn,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: new bed stide of we see now. I wouldn't say
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: I don't share your sentiments that the white folks came
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: in and just made it all better.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: These things were happening gradually through time. That was not
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: when it happened through time.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: When you tell me what.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Changes that you made, tell me what changes was made
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: in this neighborhood, our neighborhood.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: You and I live two blocks away from each other.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, what changes did you see being made to pick
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: up this community before gentrification?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: I saw the most changes happening after the two thousand
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: and seven or eight.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: The gentrification was happening.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: It was, But I'm not gonna say that it was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: white people that came in and made everything.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: They said it was gentrification. They came in here quiet
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: and slowly. They didn't I seen my first white person
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: here in two thousand and one. I remember standing on
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: the corner no the gates. For God's sake, I couldn't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: believe it. It was like seeing a pink elephant. I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: swear to God, I stopped. I was hustling.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I stopped and stayed across the street, Like.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: That's how crazy it was to see a white person
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: out here, right, that's two thousand and one. You're talking
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: about almost ten years later, seven years later, when what
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: you're talking about, they was coming by then I had
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: started seeing them running up and down the block.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, where are running from? Oh they just jogging?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Oh they do that. It was bumped out.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: I seen a white person walking down No Stren Avenue.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: To the people out here who don't know, that's like
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: the Broadway of bedstyle, right with a surfboard. Were you
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: going to the train station? You're getting on the train
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: with a certain word. I always got on the train
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: with them, just to see how this So, this was
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: gradually happening up until that point of two thousand and eight.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: What you're talking about, it was already happening. It wasn't
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: like a boom moment. It was happening a little bit
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: by little, and with that the rent started increasing more
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: police presence. They stopped letting certain shit go on that
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: they were just letting because they were leting us kill
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: each other. They was letting it happen. It's like, hey, fuck,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: they stopped letting that. They're just not gonna let the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: white people. Now you can't do You can't move out
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: here like you was back then.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: Over the last two decades, two hundred thousand black people
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: have left Brooklyn, specifically the Betford stuyves An area.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Two hundred thousand, two hundred thousand. That's hard as impossible.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: That's I don't know if that's a hard happening.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: I was reusing you all three research of materials that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: you can compare two hundred thousand. Okay, Black people have
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: been pushed out.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Us work, pushed or sold, pushed or.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: Sold pushed, I know, or push sold because those people
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: that sold their houses for millions of dollars, they took
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: advantage of of the play.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: But let's talk about the people that were forced to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: sell their house for sixty thousand dollars.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: That then re upped for one point five two million.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: What about those I know what about those people. I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: lived in one of those houses. I was, I was
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: hustling out of one of those houses.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: So what about those people? Also? When you also all crack.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Stopped, she was gonnat that house was going to show
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: me I'm not. I'm being serious. We were selling crack
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: out of her house. We were giving her gums to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: use the house. Huh dime twenty to use the house.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: She was for closing. The Jewish people came and bought
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: it for thirty thousand and they renovate.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: They gave us all.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: Five thousand then to leave all the hustlers that didn't
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: even belong there.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: But we just wouldn't leave.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: That's the real So they came in and they gave
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: us all five apiece to leave the house alone.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: We took it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: We went back on the corner. We come back, the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: whole house different, princess. It's renovated to prick.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: When I left, I stole the banisters, I stole the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: fireplace covers, I stole the steel. I'm gonna show it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: To you steel. I stole the doorknobs.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: I still got the doorknobs because they were Brownstone doorknobs.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: Why why did you think what you said something that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: stuck out to me. You kept talking about the condition
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: of the neighborhood. Why do you think the neighborhood was
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: in the condition.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: It was, We didn't have the resources to fix it. Incorrect?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: Why do you think the neighborhood was in a condition
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: that was in because they wanted the neighborhood to be
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: in that condition, because they always played on colonized the neighborhood.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: You tend to forgere that bed style. And all these
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: black areas weren't black in the eighteen nineties. They weren't
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: black until black people started moving in from the South
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: from the Great Migration, and then white people said we're
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: out here. We're going to National we're going to Suffolk,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: we're going to Rochester, we're going to scar that. Then
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: niggas got it, and that's when it stopped being nice,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: and that's when it started looking like the Brooklyn that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: we all unfortunately start to identify with that. Oh man,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: it was tenements.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Niggas overhea. It was an They did that on purpose
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: because it's okay. But then as a pendulum, you could
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: say that that's great that you know that. And I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: didn't know all of that, so I'm glad that you
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: told me all that, But then, what how does it change?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Because now we own these houses, so we ain't gonna argue.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: I want to know, since you know that, how was
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: that going to change for our benefit?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, every black person you know that's the homeowner is
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: an outlier.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Every black person you know?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: I agree, And how was it going to change for
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: our benefit? I'm glad you asked that legislation if we
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: could get black people vote for us, Okay, that for
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: the things that would happen, But they didn't. They did
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: that purposely. They knew exactly what they were doing. They
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: knew exactly what they were doing. That's why niggas don't
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: vote or I don't know if they're voting now, but
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: that's why niggas didn't vote in local elections, had no
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: idea who their representatives were.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: You left out for a second, did you hit a conversation?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, great, But so to your original point about the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: billionaire thing outside of the you know, fair wage thing.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: If you think about it, in order to become a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: billionaire and you're not doing it ethically, there gets to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: a certain point where you are not ethically making your money,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: like you're stomping on heads. People are losing their lives
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: and their livelihood in order for you to get there.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: You're also not paying your taxes that go to you know.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying, Like, it's just like you can't be
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: a billionaire and be like I don't want to say
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: you can't be a good person, but like if you
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: can sleep at night knowing the path that it took
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: for you to get there, So you.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: Can't just have a good product and like millions of
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: people buying support like so Rihanna is talk about So
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying because she's a billionaire because of her
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: fency line, so automatically, is it that she's unethical or
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: is she just.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: Has you have to be you have to be willing
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: to be complicit, Like you have to be willing to.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: Look the other way and be like not my problem. Right,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: because if you think about.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: It, like the people huet and of.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: Respect and again this is not I'm not saying that
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: every single person, but I'm saying for the most part, right,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: because also if you look at someone like Rihanna for example, right,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: she has this product, but she did not create that
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: product herself, Right, she had to deal with lv Imah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: She's not in control of what they're doing. You want
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: to stand what I'm saying, So now she has to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: be like, Yo, they might be doing that. I'm not
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: really with that, but I already signed a contract, so
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: I gotta do what I gotta do. You understand what
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's like you can't unless you built
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: that business from the ground up yourself. You are no
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: longer in control of what happened.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: I understand what you're saying. But if you put any
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 8: one of us under a microscope and dissect where we
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: get our income from that we're all tried to function
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: to that you perform might be compromised, might be unethical pressure.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: That's not. But that's also not the same.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's that. That goes on what I was telling
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: him earlier.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: That's surviving capitalism.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Semantics know it's that's what this is. That's what's what
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: you're doing. Bro.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: You are uncomfortable what you're reacting to. I'm not what
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: the fuck is you talking?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Your truth is now the truth, not because you said it.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: No, that's a truth. That your truth. That's what you believe.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: We're debating your truth. Don't make uncomfortable because I don't
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: believe it. Now, if you can, you can cause something
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: to me, and I will say, I said, Yo, I
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: appreciate that you told me that about the neighborhood. Yo,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: I appreciate I didn't know that. Thank you for telling
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: me that these other things are your opinions on these
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: things that you do not know for that you're saying
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: they have to have done this, they have to where.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's just that's just how it works.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: They had to have done it. That's not a fact.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: You're just surmising what you're.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 7: Just assuming because you take you are on your way
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: to becoming a millionaire, if not already you are.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: On your way.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: You are.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: This's so crazy. Thank you for believing mouse.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: You're doing these shows, you're selling tickets that are upwards
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: of hundreds of dollars.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: You're not.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: And these are all black people that you know are
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: going through recessions that you know, can you have mad
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: kids at home?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: You know are mostly lower to lower middle class. You
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: know you know people you know you know that.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, honestly saying you don't what you can, but
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you that when you begot when you get
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: your amassing this money from this same community that you
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: think jay Z is hurting, you're not giving them back.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: You're not saying, Yo, you know what, We're gonna do
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: five shows a year? Why because that would cost you
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: not well, do that and then judge.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: But you can't do that while you're taking the same
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: money that he taking.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not taking the same money when he has to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: book the Yankee Stadium, he has to pay for security
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: as a patient.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Sound this is it. That's what you think is happening
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: to brother Live Nation is paying for Yankee Stadium for security.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: But you're gonna be there, Yeah, for free.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be so you're gonna support the person that's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: taking advantage of these communities.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there for free. You're you're being there
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: for free.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: It's still supporting the person that's taking advantage of these
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: communities or capitalists. You're being there, it's still supporting this
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: billionaire that's taking advantage of marginalized communities.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: You're putting your face, your name, you're friend, and by.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: Showing once again once again, now you're smiling. I never
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: said jay Z is taking advantage of communities. I said
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: I think he was.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: A part of so I said, I've said early on,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: right before she stepped out to prayer, I said, I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: believe he got played.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: I believe he got played. I said that, I believe
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: that that was a whole play. I don't think he
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: had any idea how bad that could be. And that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: happens to a lot of black people that though that
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: are the first through the door, especially in a system
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: like capitalism. It is a predatory, incestuous.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: I know he's a capitalist, and we all know.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: That we are participating in capitals.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: You can only participate in capitalism if you got margin.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: You have no idea where we live? Y blessed?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: No stop, I was with you for a second.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Who says what somebody needs? What? I got kids to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: take care of.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: I got family that is not that are not as
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: affluent as I am.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: So I got it.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: Listen, have you do you see what's happening in Congo?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: And yes, man, I am very blessed.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: Don't so don't say we none of us ever have
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: any right to sit here and say we don't have
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: what we need.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Let's acknowledge that we are blessed.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: Gradually that I'm blessed but is there things that actually
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: smoked you nothing.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: She's smoked hundred dollars. She smoked your fourteen hundred dollars
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: off your head exactly.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: So I get here with a four thousand dollars code
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: on talking about.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: My half with blaming jay Z for things like this
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: is you said?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I asked you.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: I was like, if he was worth one hundred million,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 8: would be Craig like yeah. So it's like, we're putting
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: the cap. He's one of the most successful black men
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 8: that we've seen in our generation, especially from the hip
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 8: hop culture. That's why are we putting a cap on
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: his earnings. It's it's everybody knows.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: The cap on everybody.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Johnny.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: I don't think there should be billionaires. I don't think
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: billionaire should exist and that money should go back.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: I think after a while, I believe when they're used properly.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: I believe after a show, you can't you that's keep going?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: You question is my show too? We try to help
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: the show. Now, look how they treat us.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: A good Muslim, he's very.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly Traum would identify.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: I've been on a little spiritual journey and I've been
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: looking into it and looking at the nation of Islam.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: I got some questions about the differences to you know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: but my point is again, I don't want to put
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: a cap on somebody's success and be like, I think
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: it's a generalization, like, all right, once you hit that
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 8: billion dollar mark, it's unethical. But the one hundred million
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: dollar person, we're not looking at the person that makes
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: two hundred thousand dollars. We're not looking at this unethical
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: things going on in capitalism period. So either you in
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 8: the matrix or you not, we all in it. We
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: all doing unethical ship. We all have our hands compromising.
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  Speaker 6: I believe that is one of the falces that keeps
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  Speaker 6: people under the thumb. We are not all identify as
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  Speaker 6: social democrat?
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  Speaker 2: Are you socialists?
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  Speaker 3: I just told you what you identify the social democrats
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  Speaker 3: don't know being is there are two different things.
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  Speaker 2: There's social outside being social.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Democratically, I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: I believe so under so under, under the umbrella of socialism,
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  Speaker 6: there's social democrats. That is actually what y'all mayriage. So
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  Speaker 6: I believe that more. I do believe that there should
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  Speaker 6: be a cat on or should I say, taxable earning.
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  Speaker 6: I think there should be a greater taxable earning for
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  Speaker 6: those who are in certain brackets.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 6: I don't believe that the government should just take over everybody.
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  Speaker 2: You are farmers and y'r farm you do. I don't believe.
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  Speaker 6: And I do believe in individuality, but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like mom, Donnie. How do you? How do
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  Speaker 2: you practice socialism?
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  Speaker 6: How do I?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: You?
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  Speaker 3: I give everything.
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  Speaker 6: I give everything on my back if I and you've
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  Speaker 6: been out with me, and you know, you know that's true.
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  Speaker 6: If they're if they're black people around, I'm giving out.
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  Speaker 6: I'm giving out. I'm giving out if you if you're
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  Speaker 6: looking for me to say what did you do with
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  Speaker 6: your millions? And think I don't have millions yet, if
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  Speaker 6: you ask me what I do with my billions, I
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  Speaker 6: will never have billions. I can assure you.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that was taught to me drawing
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  Speaker 3: Ramadan was that during time, during that time, you are
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  Speaker 3: supposed to donate. You're supposed to give, and they have
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  Speaker 3: several organized donation things platforms or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Where you give, you give, you give, you give.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's one of the main parts of it, which
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  Speaker 3: is the reason why I realized that I was fasting
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  Speaker 3: alongside Ramadan, but not necessarily practicing.
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  Speaker 2: You did.
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  Speaker 3: You sent me a few links. But then I understood
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  Speaker 3: that the prayers, that there was just so many different
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: components that made it it, and I asked you about them.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I actually to teach me to prayers everything. Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So if you are saying that's how you idea identify,
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  Speaker 3: what do you do to support this identity? I support everything.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying that you're saying it, what.
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  Speaker 6: Do you do? I give money freely to black people
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  Speaker 6: that are doing your money to. I give every black
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  Speaker 6: homeless house person I see, I'm feeding them.
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  Speaker 2: Every Yeah, all right, you're giving out, you're giving out?
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  Speaker 2: Are you giving up?
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  Speaker 3: I understand what you give our sandwiches aren't.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine. I've given out.
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  Speaker 3: Sandwiches that you have a four thousand dollars coat on,
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  Speaker 3: you have a fifty, you have a fifteen hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: hate and you and you, and you give out sandwiches
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  Speaker 3: pocket right, I don't care real value? Are you not
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  Speaker 3: saying in retail you give as a socialist. Now let's
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  Speaker 3: go into socialism. Being that you said you don't like mom, Donnie, what.
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  Speaker 2: Else did we as black people get hoodwinked.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, coming up in part two of this week's episode,
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  Speaker 3: So Change versus