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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops.
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- 1:08Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.
- 1:10Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
- 1:14Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
- 1:18Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a
- 1:22Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
- 1:25Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality
- 1:29Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking
- 1:34Speaker 2: and tweeting about.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Hey, Rain Drives, she's.
- 1:41Speaker 2: My girl from the OC. No, not Tamra Judge girls.
- 1:46Speaker 2: I'm talking about the amazing kid KC.
- 1:50Speaker 3: We have so much to talk about.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Well, let's just dive right into a girl.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So, guys, Kate and I are going to just talk
- 1:57Speaker 2: about Jersey. I did recap the first episode. I mentioned
- 2:01Speaker 2: to you guys. I actually liked it. I thought it
- 2:04Speaker 2: was good. And you guys have been asking me like,
- 2:07Speaker 2: why haven't you recapped episode two or three? And I'm
- 2:11Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you unless something happens that ignites
- 2:17Speaker 2: something in me. I'm never going to use my microphone
- 2:21Speaker 2: and good lighting.
- 2:22Speaker 1: To just talk about an episode. Yeah, it was.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Nothing happened in episode two or three. And me and
- 2:31Speaker 2: Kate before this podcast episode started, because we're friends in
- 2:35Speaker 2: real life. We're just like catching up whatever, and I
- 2:38Speaker 2: mentioned to her about Jersey and.
- 2:41Speaker 1: She's like, girl, that's about to be over.
- 2:44Speaker 2: So I need to talk to Kate now about Jersey
- 2:47Speaker 2: Housewives because this season has started episode As of today
- 2:53Speaker 2: as we're taping this, there's been three episodes. The last
- 2:57Speaker 2: two were a snooze and it was revealed Kate, not
- 3:02Speaker 2: sure you saw this on social media. The third episode
- 3:05Speaker 2: of this season was the lowest rated live same date
- 3:10Speaker 2: in the history of the fourteenth season franchise. Wow, What's
- 3:15Speaker 2: happening with Jersey?
- 3:16Speaker 4: Well, you have two factions, you have and the show
- 3:20Speaker 4: used to be in the beginning. I liked it that
- 3:22Speaker 4: it was like these two sister in laws fighting because
- 3:24Speaker 4: I mean, everybody can kind of relate to that, and
- 3:26Speaker 4: the concept of the show really differed from other franchises
- 3:30Speaker 4: because there was this family, you know, kind of a
- 3:34Speaker 4: centered aspect to it with the Manzos and Rita's, so
- 3:38Speaker 4: adding Melissa made sense because they already kind of began
- 3:42Speaker 4: with that concept.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Shocking to me always.
- 3:45Speaker 4: That Teresa was surprised by that, like, of course, they're
- 3:47Speaker 4: going to have your sister in law who you hate,
- 3:49Speaker 4: like she's been in the background for two seasons, like
- 3:52Speaker 4: basically waving from the bushes in the background. You're surprised
- 3:54Speaker 4: that they had your sister on, come on, sist long.
- 3:57Speaker 4: But over time it's become like House of Gucci with
- 4:01Speaker 4: these two factions, and it's like, if you're friends with her,
- 4:04Speaker 4: you're not friends with me. And it's like that it
- 4:05Speaker 4: doesn't work like that when you're trying to create an
- 4:07Speaker 4: ensemble show. And you know, I've talked in the past
- 4:11Speaker 4: about power and perceived power, and there's a lot of
- 4:14Speaker 4: perceived power at this point on that show cast members
- 4:18Speaker 4: that have perceived power, and I think it. The audience
- 4:21Speaker 4: smells it, and they don't like it, Like it feels
- 4:25Speaker 4: like they're all trying in their own or at least
- 4:27Speaker 4: the two factions are trying in their own way to
- 4:30Speaker 4: lay lay lines, and the audience is like, I watch
- 4:34Speaker 4: this as my escape from my crazy work week and
- 4:37Speaker 4: my children or my life.
- 4:39Speaker 3: And I don't like the idea that you think you
- 4:43Speaker 3: control the show. So there's like a little bit of that.
- 4:46Speaker 4: The fact that Melissa and Teresa will not film together
- 4:49Speaker 4: is such a bad issue. It's just you cannot continue this,
- 4:53Speaker 4: and it's almost like they I feel like they've it's
- 4:55Speaker 4: like paralyzed the show. It's like they've had a stranglehold
- 4:59Speaker 4: on the show. And the other thing I don't like
- 5:01Speaker 4: is that because you don't really have that ensemble field,
- 5:04Speaker 4: because you have two people that refuse to acknowledge each
- 5:07Speaker 4: other in a scene, they've now sort of leaned in
- 5:09Speaker 4: too hard in the Husbands, and I gotta be honest
- 5:13Speaker 4: with you, FEMA audience is like, fuck the Husbands. This
- 5:16Speaker 4: is a show that I want to watch about women
- 5:18Speaker 4: who are having really relatable experiences, which include how you
- 5:23Speaker 4: lose your part of your own identity when your children
- 5:26Speaker 4: go off to college, the power dynamic in your marriages,
- 5:32Speaker 4: friendship issues, taking care of elderly parents, like all those
- 5:37Speaker 4: things that Real Housewives is so good at telling that
- 5:39Speaker 4: that you can't find in other parts of like entertainment.
- 5:44Speaker 4: I feel like it's being drowned out by these try
- 5:47Speaker 4: hard husbands. Like in the last episode there's a scene
- 5:51Speaker 4: where these loser guys are doing shots out of an
- 5:54Speaker 4: inflatable woman, out of her asshole. Do you think that
- 5:59Speaker 4: women want to watch this show?
- 6:00Speaker 1: I don't want to watch it as a gay man.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Well, of course you don't, because you respect.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Women number one. Yes. And also, you guys are older men.
- 6:09Speaker 2: I expect this from like twenty something year old frat boys,
- 6:12Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?
- 6:14Speaker 1: But not like men and there forty who have daughters.
- 6:16Speaker 4: You have daughters and you're taking shots out of an asshole.
- 6:20Speaker 4: It's not funny, No, it's not, and some people on
- 6:22Speaker 4: social media it's like, how is this ever gonna end?
- 6:24Speaker 4: They sent off their kids to school, But yeah, that's
- 6:27Speaker 4: a big damn moment for Teresa Melissa. That's Melissa's first child,
- 6:33Speaker 4: and the reality is there's a part of her self
- 6:35Speaker 4: identity that she's trying to like figure out when one
- 6:39Speaker 4: like you that's been your whole life is taking care
- 6:41Speaker 4: of a child. But let's like smooth over that because
- 6:46Speaker 4: the guy wants to do some shots. It's like what
- 6:49Speaker 4: And also I feel like Frank's moment where he goes
- 6:53Speaker 4: over he Jelorus and he's like, I'm going to propose.
- 6:55Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, okay, great, who cares?
- 6:57Speaker 4: Like he thinks he's way more important than the show
- 7:00Speaker 4: to the show than I think he really is. And
- 7:03Speaker 4: Joe Gorga always bugs me too, because he is like
- 7:06Speaker 4: infantile in some of those scenes. Like and I don't
- 7:11Speaker 4: know how you feel about this, but I want to know.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Like some of the stuff is like borderline creepy. The
- 7:16Speaker 4: way they're always like it's like this almost like veiled
- 7:20Speaker 4: homophobic stuff. I don't know, it's like slapping each other's
- 7:23Speaker 4: asses and like talk about dildo's and like I don't know,
- 7:28Speaker 4: it's just like it feels very like infantile, like where
- 7:32Speaker 4: are the grown up conversations? Like I feel like other
- 7:35Speaker 4: the men in other franchises have far more adult yes oh, conversations.
- 7:42Speaker 4: And it's just like it's almost like belittling the people
- 7:45Speaker 4: that watch the real houses in New Jersey.
- 7:48Speaker 3: It's like, this is not what we're signing up for.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Who sister, you said a mouthful there? Yes, where do
- 7:53Speaker 2: I begin? I mean, listen, I agree with everything you're saying,
- 7:58Speaker 2: especially when it comes to look, when this season came
- 8:02Speaker 2: back and we knew that Melissa and Teresa were both
- 8:05Speaker 2: going to be on it, I think we all know
- 8:08Speaker 2: we were doomed. And as a reality TV creator, producer
- 8:12Speaker 2: all those things, I'm aware that you never want to
- 8:15Speaker 2: give anyone the perception that they run the show.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Like I get it, Like.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Right, you never want to Let's let's have a real conversation, Kate.
- 8:26Speaker 2: If Melissa's gone, the perception, not the reality, it's the perception.
- 8:31Speaker 2: If Melissa was fired, the perception would have been Teresa
- 8:34Speaker 2: want she got her way.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Ifa was right.
- 8:38Speaker 2: If Teresa was fired, Melissa would have been perceived that
- 8:42Speaker 2: she got her way, right, So we knew that that
- 8:47Speaker 2: was probably the basis of why they said.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Well, you're both coming back.
- 8:52Speaker 2: The unfortunate part is this, we want to watch a
- 8:56Speaker 2: show of people who we believe.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Like being around each other.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Maybe not love each other, maybe I have slummer parties,
- 9:05Speaker 2: but like at least like being around each other. And
- 9:11Speaker 2: this will probably go down in history worse than Potomac
- 9:14Speaker 2: to me as the most divided cast I have ever
- 9:18Speaker 2: seen on reality television. This show is more divided than
- 9:23Speaker 2: the people trying to date Flavor flav you know, it's
- 9:29Speaker 2: they do not It's like this prize at the end
- 9:32Speaker 2: that they all want, which is another season. So in
- 9:35Speaker 2: my opinion, what I'm watching is you have Teresa's group,
- 9:39Speaker 2: which is Jennifer Aiden, Jennifer Fessler is trying to figure
- 9:42Speaker 2: out her place in the ensemble. Then we saw Jackie
- 9:47Speaker 2: Goldschneider and Margaret have a little tiff.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Just about things she was saying to jen Fessler.
- 9:55Speaker 2: And then you have the Melissa team, which is Margaret, Joseph,
- 9:59Speaker 2: obviously Rachel and I feel like Dan Yelle just did
- 10:02Speaker 2: to make good TV and show for mumus. But for me,
- 10:07Speaker 2: there isn't this sense of we want to be around
- 10:11Speaker 2: each other, and everybody is saying, hey, join my team
- 10:15Speaker 2: because there's power and numbers, and we can go to
- 10:18Speaker 2: the network saying we are real friends, get rid of
- 10:21Speaker 2: the group that isn't really friends. And I don't know
- 10:26Speaker 2: how much I can watch if this is what I'm getting.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Well, also, I think the news that it's been revealed
- 10:35Speaker 4: that there are cast members that have allegedly been working
- 10:39Speaker 4: with social media accounts to try to destroy other cast members, like,
- 10:43Speaker 4: it's way too dark. I can't imagine an executive at
- 10:46Speaker 4: not Bravo is like this is this is something I'm
- 10:49Speaker 4: happy about. I mean, you want to see a show
- 10:51Speaker 4: where you feel like there's joyful friendship, there's like you know,
- 10:55Speaker 4: like just slapstick stuff with really heartfelt well like deep
- 11:02Speaker 4: and moving moments. You need a little bit of both.
- 11:04Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm getting either of those things.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Yeah, And it just hit me.
- 11:10Speaker 2: You and I both agree that this past season of
- 11:12Speaker 2: Baidley Hills wasn't the greatest season. You know, it wasn't
- 11:15Speaker 2: the greatest. We've seen much better seasons, But it just
- 11:18Speaker 2: dawned on me, Kate. The reason why that show continuously
- 11:24Speaker 2: does well on the ratings, and I think this was
- 11:26Speaker 2: their highestpreaded season. Shockingly, it is because at bare minimum
- 11:33Speaker 2: is what you just said two seconds ago, they have
- 11:37Speaker 2: these joy these joyful moments around each other. It's not dark.
- 11:42Speaker 2: They're not conspiring against each other. It's like when they
- 11:46Speaker 2: get along. It's actually enjoyable to watch them like get
- 11:51Speaker 2: along and they like being around each other, and it's believable. Yeah,
- 11:55Speaker 2: and it's probably it's just dawned on me. I would
- 11:57Speaker 2: love to get your take. Is the Real Housewives of
- 12:00Speaker 2: Bailey Hills the most genuine caz of women who enjoy
- 12:06Speaker 2: being around each other?
- 12:08Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, Miami, Miami. That's the best real housewives
- 12:13Speaker 4: show on the air. That is like real friendships, heartfault moments,
- 12:18Speaker 4: lots of hilarity. It captures the city beautifully. It's got
- 12:24Speaker 4: the beautiful landscapes, but it really like encapsulates the culture.
- 12:29Speaker 4: And every woman has such an interesting singular story and
- 12:33Speaker 4: then they have these complex dynamics too. I think that
- 12:37Speaker 4: is the best, and I think what's frustrating is that
- 12:39Speaker 4: they don't get the attention that they deserve. That is,
- 12:41Speaker 4: to me, the best Real Housewives.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Why is that? You think you know what.
- 12:45Speaker 4: One other person pointed this out to me, and I
- 12:47Speaker 4: can't remember who it was. Gibson Gibson John said it.
- 12:51Speaker 4: Gibson John said that the women of Miami pulled it up,
- 12:55Speaker 4: put it all out on the line because it was
- 12:56Speaker 4: taken from them.
- 12:58Speaker 3: So when they came back, they're like, we really.
- 13:00Speaker 4: Have to put it all out there if we really
- 13:02Speaker 4: want this show to work. And I think on other
- 13:04Speaker 4: franchises there's some people that believe that and some people
- 13:07Speaker 4: that get a little bit lazy. And the show like Miami,
- 13:10Speaker 4: you have Lisa who goes to all the other women
- 13:13Speaker 4: in the Florida Keys and she says, Lenny and I
- 13:16Speaker 4: are gonna divorced, and also he's been sleeping with another
- 13:18Speaker 4: woman and they all screamed, and you're like, those are
- 13:22Speaker 4: real those are real friends. And even though like they
- 13:25Speaker 4: all get mad at Larsa the minute that she says,
- 13:28Speaker 4: like I broke up with you know, my boyfriend, they're
- 13:31Speaker 4: right there. That is like real friendship. I feel like
- 13:34Speaker 4: the women of Real Housewaves in New Jersey need to
- 13:36Speaker 4: study that show. That's a show that people want to
- 13:40Speaker 4: watch and invest in. And then also Miami of like
- 13:42Speaker 4: really interesting personal stories like Gerdy and cancer, and Alexia
- 13:47Speaker 4: is one of the To me, she's one of the
- 13:49Speaker 4: best housewives because that is a woman who has lived
- 13:52Speaker 4: a life. That's what you want one like a woman
- 13:54Speaker 4: who's lived a good, layered life. And that's why that
- 13:58Speaker 4: forty to fifty range just so cool, because they've raised children,
- 14:02Speaker 4: they've been married once or twice or maybe more, and
- 14:05Speaker 4: they've been around the world and like they're very layered people.
- 14:09Speaker 4: And I feel like New Jersey is kind of like
- 14:11Speaker 4: it's like stuck in time. It's still stuck in twenty thirteen,
- 14:16Speaker 4: like no evolving.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Jersey Shore.
- 14:20Speaker 3: It's very Jersey short. It's like stuck in that time.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So what does this show need? Okay, k Casey.
- 14:29Speaker 2: You are at your desk, right, you have the corner
- 14:32Speaker 2: office at thirty Rock. You are on the top floor
- 14:37Speaker 2: of the building. Okay, people are scared of you.
- 14:42Speaker 3: They are.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you are the Miranda Priestley of executives.
- 14:53Speaker 1: You work at Bravo.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Yeah, you have.
- 14:57Speaker 2: A presentation meeting with Francis Buruswick, who was like the
- 15:02Speaker 2: chairman of NBC, and you are talking about how to
- 15:07Speaker 2: Sabage Jersey because you just got the ratings overnight and
- 15:11Speaker 2: it showed you that it was the lowest rated episode
- 15:15Speaker 2: in the fourteen year history of the show.
- 15:17Speaker 1: What is kay Casey going to do to fix it?
- 15:19Speaker 4: I say, Francis, we got to get rid of Melissa
- 15:21Speaker 4: and Teresa, and we need to in the short term, Yes,
- 15:28Speaker 4: bring in the ones that have been hanging out in
- 15:30Speaker 4: the background, but.
- 15:30Speaker 3: We have to shift somebody beautifully.
- 15:33Speaker 4: I'm forgetting the person's name on Twitter, but they just
- 15:36Speaker 4: put it up where they put a map of all
- 15:37Speaker 4: the real housews in New Jersey and wherever they live.
- 15:40Speaker 4: And I love that and said you need to do
- 15:41Speaker 4: that for every past because it shows you how far
- 15:44Speaker 4: away they all live from one another. If they could
- 15:47Speaker 4: get like maybe the two new women that they had,
- 15:50Speaker 4: Tiffany and Kayla in the background, I feel like they're
- 15:54Speaker 4: friends with Danielle. Shift towards that like that age, like
- 15:58Speaker 4: wherever they live, fine women in that community, and lean
- 16:02Speaker 4: into that. I think the story of Melissa and Teresa,
- 16:05Speaker 4: with all respect to them, we know it. There are
- 16:08Speaker 4: a lot of housewives that we get to a point where,
- 16:11Speaker 4: like like Vicky Gumbolson was one of them, where like,
- 16:13Speaker 4: I know who you are. I get like, I get it,
- 16:16Speaker 4: but I think it's time for us to meet somebody new.
- 16:18Speaker 4: It's like having the same person to your dinner party
- 16:22Speaker 4: every week.
- 16:23Speaker 3: Their lives didn't change that much. Isn't it fun to
- 16:26Speaker 3: invite somebody over.
- 16:27Speaker 4: It was like, you know, they have like a different
- 16:29Speaker 4: kind of job, and they just went on a trip
- 16:31Speaker 4: to you know, on a safari and they've been like
- 16:34Speaker 4: in the middle of a breakup. You're like, that's fun.
- 16:37Speaker 4: Not inviting the same person dinner party every freaking week.
- 16:41Speaker 4: Oh what are we having chicken stew again?
- 16:43Speaker 3: Great?
- 16:44Speaker 4: Look kids, Big Ben Parliament, that is the problem. Get
- 16:48Speaker 4: some new stuff in there. So I would do that,
- 16:50Speaker 4: would get rid of Melissa, and I would get rid
- 16:52Speaker 4: of Teresa. And I presume they probably cost them a
- 16:55Speaker 4: lot of money.
- 16:56Speaker 1: In terms of how much they make, how.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Much they make.
- 16:59Speaker 4: So if you get I'm be honest with you, if
- 17:01Speaker 4: I'm thinking like an executive, I go, I get rid
- 17:03Speaker 4: of that. I'm gonna save myself. We're gonna save a
- 17:05Speaker 4: ton of this is what I'm saying to Francis. I'm like,
- 17:07Speaker 4: we're gonna save a ton of money. We're gonna get
- 17:09Speaker 4: rid of those two. We're gonna get the two new
- 17:10Speaker 4: housewives because we don't really have to pay them a
- 17:12Speaker 4: lot of money for the first three seasons. And then
- 17:14Speaker 4: we're gonna ask them who their group of friends are,
- 17:16Speaker 4: and we're gonna send myself and somebody else in to
- 17:20Speaker 4: interview the people in the community or who they're friends with,
- 17:22Speaker 4: and we're gonna adjust this show to make it a newer, better,
- 17:26Speaker 4: better version.
- 17:27Speaker 3: You know, they did it in New York and it's great.
- 17:28Speaker 3: It's a big hit. I think I think the.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Good people that watch the show are are gonna be
- 17:34Speaker 4: okay with that.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Okay, so you're keeping Marge and Jen Festler, Rachel and Danielle.
- 17:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I would lean into Rachel and Danielle's friends, and
- 17:44Speaker 4: we moved we move in that direction, Like doesn't Jen
- 17:48Speaker 4: Fessler have some fun friends that are.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Just wacka doos? See?
- 17:51Speaker 4: That's the other thing is like women in their forties
- 17:53Speaker 4: and fifties, they don't care as much.
- 17:54Speaker 3: They're not They're like, this is who I am. Fuck it.
- 17:57Speaker 4: You have a little bit more of a problem with
- 17:59Speaker 4: someone's like thirty too, because they're like, well, my mother
- 18:01Speaker 4: in law, she thinks I'm a bad mother, and I
- 18:04Speaker 4: really want to, like, I can't be on a TV
- 18:06Speaker 4: show forty or the fifty year old woman, especially the ladder.
- 18:09Speaker 3: Like fifty, like late fifties.
- 18:12Speaker 4: She's like, fuck my mother in law, right, you want
- 18:15Speaker 4: those kind of women too?
- 18:16Speaker 1: No, And that's the reason why.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Oh I forgot to metch her name jen Aiden. Are
- 18:22Speaker 2: you keeping her?
- 18:22Speaker 4: Oh no, she's gone, maybe gone gone, maybe gone. She's
- 18:26Speaker 4: been gone gone. I didn't even think about in my
- 18:29Speaker 4: mind she's gone.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Oh why tell me?
- 18:34Speaker 4: I just think she doesn't really add that much to
- 18:36Speaker 4: the show, you know. I feel like I got to
- 18:38Speaker 4: know her a couple of seasons ago, and I'm like,
- 18:40Speaker 4: there's nothing really left to talk about, you know what
- 18:43Speaker 4: I mean? And I feel like what I've seen play
- 18:45Speaker 4: out on social media is so disturbing about these accounts
- 18:48Speaker 4: alleging that she is with the help of others like trying.
- 18:53Speaker 2: You know.
- 18:53Speaker 4: I have to say personally, I was affected by that.
- 18:55Speaker 4: One time I interviewed Margaret last season. To tell you this,
- 18:59Speaker 4: I interviewed.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Her, you did.
- 19:00Speaker 4: I interviewed Margaret last last year, and I was like, I,
- 19:03Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I get this, like onslought of
- 19:05Speaker 4: like terrible tweets like disparaging me and my show, a
- 19:08Speaker 4: ton of like bad.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Apple reviews because I.
- 19:11Speaker 4: And like these tweets were insanity, like as if I
- 19:15Speaker 4: had been working in cahoots with Margaret and that's why
- 19:18Speaker 4: I interviewed. I'm like that the people have lost their mind.
- 19:20Speaker 4: So this one account has gone on to say that
- 19:23Speaker 4: apparently there's like a whole strategy like if anybody should
- 19:26Speaker 4: be bold enough to interview people on the other side
- 19:29Speaker 4: of the fence of New Jersey, that you are ripe
- 19:32Speaker 4: for getting ripped on, like essentially almost like bullying people
- 19:36Speaker 4: into not covering or interviewing certain cast members because they're,
- 19:41Speaker 4: you know, on the wrong side of the fence, which
- 19:43Speaker 4: is like what, like come on.
- 19:45Speaker 1: No, they is listen. There's there's a there's a section
- 19:48Speaker 1: of people who take away too far. Yeah, that's wait,
- 19:51Speaker 1: and that's taking it too far.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Like we're journalists, we're podcast lls, we're bloggers, consecrators what
- 19:58Speaker 2: you want to call anybody in this field. We're not
- 20:02Speaker 2: here to place judgment on the entire cast. It's our
- 20:07Speaker 2: job to ask questions. It's no secret that Teresa Judais
- 20:11Speaker 2: is a friend of mine. I had Margaret on my podcast. Yeah,
- 20:15Speaker 2: because for me it was about Margaret's on the show.
- 20:19Speaker 1: She has a story.
- 20:20Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Margaret and I would love
- 20:23Speaker 2: to talk to Melissa Gorda.
- 20:24Speaker 1: I will add Teresa Yea.
- 20:26Speaker 2: And I want to say this for the record, Teresa
- 20:28Speaker 2: never once said why.
- 20:29Speaker 1: The fuck are you talking about?
- 20:30Speaker 2: She didn't give a shit because she understands, like, who
- 20:33Speaker 2: cares she's on the show?
- 20:34Speaker 1: Talk to her. So when the fans, some of them, when.
- 20:37Speaker 2: They go too far as to attacking people on Twitter,
- 20:41Speaker 2: leaving bad reviews on Apple.
- 20:43Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think the question, though, is there are
- 20:46Speaker 4: certain fans that do that, but are they doing it
- 20:48Speaker 4: at the instruction of someone And that's the question. And
- 20:52Speaker 4: I'm to say, as somebody who speaks to people that
- 20:56Speaker 4: are executive producers a lot, this is not something they
- 21:00Speaker 4: want to deal with. They are trying to make a
- 21:02Speaker 4: show out of what they're given and this executive producers,
- 21:05Speaker 4: all the people who work on shows work their asses
- 21:08Speaker 4: off and to have someone do that behind the scenes
- 21:12Speaker 4: is enormously frustrating. And that's the thing that gets lost
- 21:15Speaker 4: in it that I really really gets on my nerves.
- 21:18Speaker 4: Are the people, you know, it's fun to watch these shows,
- 21:20Speaker 4: but there are people that put together these shows who
- 21:22Speaker 4: work really, really hard, and you're demeaning them when you
- 21:26Speaker 4: do stuff like that. So I would presume they're like,
- 21:28Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with this person anymore. You're
- 21:30Speaker 4: making my job a lot harder than it should be.
- 21:32Speaker 4: This should be a fun experience.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, and that's the reason why for me, is
- 21:37Speaker 2: one of those things where it's just it takes the
- 21:41Speaker 2: fun out of it. Yeah, and you can't allow the
- 21:47Speaker 2: show to take over your life. It's yeah crazy like
- 21:53Speaker 2: you and I K we get a kick out of this,
- 21:56Speaker 2: We enjoy it.
- 21:57Speaker 1: You have a full life. You are a full full
- 22:00Speaker 1: time mom, a full time wife. You you have a
- 22:03Speaker 1: full life on your own.
- 22:06Speaker 2: So to have someone come in and disrupt it because
- 22:09Speaker 2: they don't like what you're who you're talking.
- 22:11Speaker 1: To, like guys that that that's not okay. And one
- 22:15Speaker 1: thing about Jersey the show is.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Dark and I think I'm pretty fair.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Oh you, Oh you're very fair. No, I've known you
- 22:23Speaker 1: for years, you're you're you're very fair.
- 22:26Speaker 2: But again it's more so about like, well, you're talking
- 22:29Speaker 2: to this person and I think I think that's like
- 22:32Speaker 2: this cloud over Jersey and anything associated with it.
- 22:37Speaker 1: It's just dark, it is, and.
- 22:39Speaker 2: It's I don't remember the last time I saw the
- 22:42Speaker 2: girls like have a girl's trip and had fun and no,
- 22:47Speaker 2: I okay, I can't recall the last time the girls
- 22:50Speaker 2: just laughed?
- 22:51Speaker 1: Well, how can by the way, for each other's company?
- 22:53Speaker 4: How can you laugh when someone to seat pre season
- 22:56Speaker 4: before said I had an investigator to do it like
- 22:59Speaker 4: a thorough like look into all of you?
- 23:02Speaker 3: How was that fun? That? Like? Do you want to
- 23:05Speaker 3: be part of shore?
- 23:05Speaker 4: Like that?
- 23:06Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'm out, folks, sorry.
- 23:09Speaker 1: So does this show need to be put on pause
- 23:11Speaker 1: until they know?
- 23:12Speaker 4: Doesn't need to be on pause? Just get rid of
- 23:14Speaker 4: people and move new people in. Let's be honest. It's
- 23:17Speaker 4: this is like the Jennifer Convertibles of it all.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Like move the old furniture out and move the new in.
- 23:25Speaker 3: What do I always say?
- 23:26Speaker 4: Real house wis is like Menudo somebody else, Like you know,
- 23:29Speaker 4: somebody's voice cracks and they get a mustache trying to
- 23:32Speaker 4: move you out.
- 23:33Speaker 3: Got to get somebody new.
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