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Wayne Allyn Root WAR RAW 01/03/25 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 1: This is Wayne Alan Root, raw and unfiltered, but America's
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, one hundred percent raw truth, one hundred
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  Speaker 3: All right, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome today number three of January
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. My name is Lee Elsie and I
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  Speaker 3: am your official warm up act, Wayne Allen Root. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: we'll be here in exactly sixty minutes. Set your watches
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  Speaker 3: to it. He'll appear like magic through your radio speakers,
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  Speaker 3: on your computer screens, frankspeech dot com, and everywhere in between. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I thank you for joining us. I appreciate you. As
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  Speaker 3: always on these fridays, I do get a chance to
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  Speaker 3: be with you for the first sixty minutes. Daniel and
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  Speaker 3: the entire crew pushing the buttons in Minnesota making it
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  Speaker 3: all go okay. Albert Einstein warned dust in nineteen forty
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  Speaker 3: nine that the time would come when the very rich
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  Speaker 3: so controlled the means of communication that it would be
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  Speaker 3: almost impossible for ordinary people to make informed decisions, and
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  Speaker 3: so democracy would be broken. I feel like that's where
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  Speaker 3: we are now, right. We cannot get Trump in office
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  Speaker 3: fast enough. It seems like there is deception everywhere, and
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  Speaker 3: nobody trusts anyone anymore. Nobody trusts the news media, and
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  Speaker 3: nobody trusts the government. Nobody trusts nobody. And even these
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  Speaker 3: terror attacks, these two terror attacks, there is something fishy
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  Speaker 3: about them. Something smells rotten in Denmark. And I mentioned
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  Speaker 3: this and I'm going to go with it again. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like, in particular the Tesla bombing the one of
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  Speaker 3: Trump Tower, it seems like that was a message to
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Right here, I am taking
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  Speaker 3: your most prized possession and blowing it up in front
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  Speaker 3: of one of your most prized possessions, almost like that
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  Speaker 3: scene from The Godfather when the horse's head was put
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  Speaker 3: in the bed of the big time film producer. Right,
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  Speaker 3: that seems like what we got going on. Are there
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  Speaker 3: more nefarious actors behind the scenes doing very very evil
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  Speaker 3: things and where's the media? Where are they digging?
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  Speaker 4: Are they just sort of going with the flow like
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  Speaker 4: they've always gone with the flow here, in particular when
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  Speaker 4: the Progressives and the Dems are in charge, never pushing
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  Speaker 4: back against them, never trying to ferret out information against them.
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  Speaker 3: No, no silence for them apparently is golden. So anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to start out with that because I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure Wayne'll get into it a little bit later on,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like, man, there is something that just
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  Speaker 3: doesn't sit right with me about these two terror attacks.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, maybe as information comes out, we'll figure
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  Speaker 3: more out about what happened, exactly what happened. A couple
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  Speaker 3: other things I want to bounce around. The White House
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  Speaker 3: can't track six point two billion that it sent to
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine California. They can't track twenty four billion spent to
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  Speaker 3: combat homelessness the Pentagon. They can't track two point three
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  Speaker 3: trillion of military spending. The US Treasury can't track five
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  Speaker 3: trillion of pandemic spending. Yet the IRS they know exactly
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  Speaker 3: exactly to the penny, the six hundred and one dollars
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  Speaker 3: and fifty seven cents that the Fantasy Commissioner sent me
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  Speaker 3: because I recently won my fantasy football league. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: what the IRS is up to. I want to change
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  Speaker 3: gears a little bit. Talk about some laws that are
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  Speaker 3: taking effect here in twenty twenty five. So sit back
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  Speaker 3: and get ready because some of these you might not
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  Speaker 3: have heard about. Have you heard about congestion pricing yet?
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  Speaker 3: The Empire States heavily debated Congestion pricing is going to
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  Speaker 3: take effect starting this Sunday. So if you're traveling during
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  Speaker 3: certain times, they're going to jack up the prices of
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  Speaker 3: the commute. So if you're about to go through a
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  Speaker 3: tunnel or go through a toll, instead of it being
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  Speaker 3: seven dollars, it'll be eleven fifty or eleven ninety. And
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  Speaker 3: this is a test run. Pay very close attention everybody,
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  Speaker 3: because if it goes well, it could be coming to
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  Speaker 3: a state near you. And what are you going to
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  Speaker 3: do about it? Can you avoid it? You got to
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  Speaker 3: be at work at a certain time. They know that,
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  Speaker 3: so if there's congestion, they're going to jack up the
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  Speaker 3: price for you to get from point A to point B.
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  Speaker 3: Some states will do anything and everything to literally hold
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  Speaker 3: you upside down and shake you and try to get
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  Speaker 3: every last nickel that they can so congestion pricing for
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  Speaker 3: our friends in New York, in particular New York City
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  Speaker 3: that starts on Sunday. How about California. So California led
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  Speaker 3: by Gavin Newsom, and he will probably be or at
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  Speaker 3: least he is the favorite as of right now to
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  Speaker 3: be the Democrat's choice to be president in twenty twenty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom has some interesting new laws coming to California.
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  Speaker 3: California tax hikes are happening again. California has now stipulated
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  Speaker 3: that workers will have slightly more taken out of their
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  Speaker 3: paychecks in twenty twenty five, to the tune of one
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  Speaker 3: point two percent. To go help the folks that are
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  Speaker 3: in need, right the homeless folks, the drug addicts, the illegals.
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  Speaker 3: California's got to do their share. Man, do your fair share,
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  Speaker 3: give up a little bit more, those of you in California,
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  Speaker 3: take a little bit deeper to make sure that the
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  Speaker 3: homeless population, the criminals, the illegals all had a chance
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  Speaker 3: for a fresh start on your dime. Oh one other
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  Speaker 3: thing about California. As if taxes weren't bad enough, there's
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  Speaker 3: a new law on the books as of the first
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  Speaker 3: where schools no longer have to tell parents if their kids,
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  Speaker 3: their own kids going to school are in some transition mode,
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  Speaker 3: transitioning from male to female or female to male. The
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  Speaker 3: schools no longer have to tell the parents.
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  Speaker 5: So if Jane wants to be Johnny and Steve wants
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  Speaker 5: to be Sally, the schools don't have to say anything.
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  Speaker 5: That's the way it is in California, so parents are
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  Speaker 5: the last to know.
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  Speaker 3: I still can't get over that. In California and other
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  Speaker 3: states similar to California, you essentially no longer are in
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  Speaker 3: control of your kids. The schools. The state now owns
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  Speaker 3: your children. Colorado, Oh, this is a good one. The
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  Speaker 3: citizens of Colorado now be responsible for the healthcare of
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  Speaker 3: a legal aliens. Just go to Colorado, migrate there. You
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  Speaker 3: need an operation, you need health care, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: The Colorado folks will make sure that they pick up
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  Speaker 3: the tab for all of you. That is a new
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  Speaker 3: law that started up on Wednesday. There's a vaping ban
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  Speaker 3: in Rhode Island. The ocean state is set to enact
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  Speaker 3: a ban on the sales and possession of flavored vaping products.
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  Speaker 3: So my neighboring state no longer is allowing the kiddies
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  Speaker 3: to vape with the special tastes like the berries and
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  Speaker 3: the grapes and all of that. I've never vaped in
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  Speaker 3: my life. I have no idea what that sensation is,
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  Speaker 3: nor do I want to know. But I will say
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  Speaker 3: this about vaping and things like vaping, when you are
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  Speaker 3: trying to protect an adult from a vice, right, I
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  Speaker 3: think that is is border line overreach, right, And I
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  Speaker 3: know that maybe that's contradictory to some of the stances
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to drugs in general, Like, right, I
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  Speaker 3: want to make drugs legal, and you know when you
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  Speaker 3: do it, society falls apart. There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're a sane, sound minded adult, thirty five
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  Speaker 3: year old person who for some reason loves to vape
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  Speaker 3: some kind of cherry vape or orange flavored vape, who
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  Speaker 3: am I to tell you whether or not you should
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  Speaker 3: be able to do that. I don't know. I'm conflicted
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  Speaker 3: on that one. I don't really I don't really know
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  Speaker 3: if we need the overreaching rules of the almighty government
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  Speaker 3: to come in and tell you whether or not you
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  Speaker 3: can put these horrible things into your body. Again, I
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  Speaker 3: don't care what you do to yourself. That's up to you. Man,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't want to pay for your health care
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  Speaker 3: when it's all said and done, so you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: those two do butt heads. And finally, before we run
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  Speaker 3: out of time, there are some states which have elevated
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  Speaker 3: the minimum wage, California being one, Connecticut being one. So
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  Speaker 3: if you're living in those states, you now get a
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  Speaker 3: New shoplifting data is explaining why they're locking up toothpaste.
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  Speaker 3: Have you gone to the store recently, gone to like
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  Speaker 3: a not even a convenience score, go to like a
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  Speaker 3: CBS or something like that, everything's under lock and key.
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  Speaker 3: Anything with value they now lock up. That's sad. So
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  Speaker 3: shoplifting rates in the three largest US cities, New York, LA,
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  Speaker 3: and Chicago remain higher than they were before the pandemic.
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  Speaker 3: It's a hot button topic. It's on everybody's radar. You know,
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  Speaker 3: people are emboldened because they're not being prosecuted. We know
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  Speaker 3: about the rules that there was a six hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: rule and then there was the nine hundred dollars rule,
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  Speaker 3: depending upon what state you lived in. If you stole
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  Speaker 3: a certain amount from whatever store you stole it from,
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  Speaker 3: as long as it didn't reach that threshold of nine
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  Speaker 3: hundred bucks, it was a misdemeanor. It was well worth
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  Speaker 3: people's time to go in there with garbage bags and
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  Speaker 3: just rip the place off. You saw video after video
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  Speaker 3: after video of that happening, and those types of videos
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  Speaker 3: smash and grab robberies flooded social media during COVID, and
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  Speaker 3: now they're continuing to flood social media, and police seemingly
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  Speaker 3: not only do they seemingly have no power, they don't
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  Speaker 3: really have any drive to do anything about this. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like they know their hands are tied. They know
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  Speaker 3: these crooks are going to get away with it. They're
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  Speaker 3: going to get a slap on the wrist at best.
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  Speaker 3: So the end result has been anything that's valuable they
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  Speaker 3: lock up. But finally, some states are pushing back. At
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  Speaker 3: least eight states Arizona, California, Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, New York,
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  Speaker 3: and Vermont passed a total of fourteen bills in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty four aimed at tackling retail theft. The measures range
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  Speaker 3: from redefining retail crimes and adjusting penalties allowing for a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more of an aggressive approach, to charging people
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  Speaker 3: who are related in shoplifting and those kinds of thefts.
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  Speaker 3: And as I said earlier, major retailers are locking up
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  Speaker 3: their expensive products behind glass so you can't get to them.
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  Speaker 3: In Chicago, the rate of reported shoplifting has surged forty
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  Speaker 3: six percent from January of last year till this year,
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  Speaker 3: So forty six percent increase shoplifting in La eighty seven
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  Speaker 3: percent higher than it was in twenty twenty three. In
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  Speaker 3: New York, shoplifting rows almost fifty percent, and Chicago is
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  Speaker 3: batting it by actually lowering the threshold for charging retail
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  Speaker 3: theft as a felony. Like I said, it used to
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  Speaker 3: be a thousand. Now it's down to three hundred. So
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  Speaker 3: if you go in there and you start tearing the
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  Speaker 3: place apart and you rip off more than three hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 3: now you can be charged with a felony. And whether
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  Speaker 3: or not they can actually convict these folks or have
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  Speaker 3: the you will to convict them, that's another story. Entirely Nationally,
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  Speaker 3: retailers are worried about organized theft. The National Retail Federation's
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  Speaker 3: laterst report attributed thirty six percent thirty six percent of
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  Speaker 3: the one hundred and twelve billion dollars lost in merchandise
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  Speaker 3: in the last calendar year. They're attributing that to organized crime.
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  Speaker 3: So you've seen these smash and grabs. They're very organized, right,
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  Speaker 3: These guys are really like a well oiled machine. And
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  Speaker 3: you would think that a lot of this has to
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  Speaker 3: do with sort of like a hierarchy. That's story one
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  Speaker 3: real quick, Well, I have a couple seconds here, homelessness
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  Speaker 3: in the United States, sorees. That's up. They're saying seven
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  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy thousand homeless now in the United States
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  Speaker 3: of America, the greatest country in the world, where nobody
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  Speaker 3: should have to sleep under a bridge, right, but now
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  Speaker 3: we have almost a million people, and they're saying a
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  Speaker 3: large chunk of these people now are illegal immigrants. And
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  Speaker 3: if you remember I mentioned this last night, think about
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  Speaker 3: this for a second. So, if you've got seven hundred
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  Speaker 3: and seventy thousand homeless folks in the country, do you
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  Speaker 3: know we spend fifty one billion dollars annually to end homelessness,
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  Speaker 3: all these different organizations fifty one billion. We have seven
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand or so who are now homeless in that vicinity.
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  Speaker 3: That's the numbers that they're giving me. So if you
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  Speaker 3: just do the math, if you get your calculator ound,
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  Speaker 3: that comes out to somewhere around eighty seven thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: She is well.
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  Speaker 3: She's the director of the Heritage Foundation's Border Security and
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  Speaker 3: Immigration Center at the Heritage Foundation, and her name is
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  Speaker 3: Laura Reese Lorg.
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  Speaker 8: How are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm well.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you for having me out.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming on today. So you wrote a paper,
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  Speaker 3: an extensive paper, laying out essentially the fifty immigration policies
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  Speaker 3: you know, I guess we can both agree to start
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  Speaker 3: off that the immigration system as it sits right now
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, So it's been broken for decades. It's been dysfunctional,
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  Speaker 8: it was too slow, too extensive, and too confusing. Immigration
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  Speaker 8: law has often been described as the second most confusing,
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  Speaker 8: complicated set of laws after this tax code, and that's
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  Speaker 8: an accurate description. And so that was all before Biden
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  Speaker 8: came onto the scene in the White House and really
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  Speaker 8: erased the line between legal and illegal immigration to the
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: point where we don't recognize immigration anymore because we're not
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  Speaker 8: following the rules law. And so what he has burned
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  Speaker 8: down essentially is not worth reforming. We have a good
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  Speaker 8: opportunity now to just sweep that aside, start over with
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  Speaker 8: a much more simple, faster, easier lawful immigration system where
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: applicants and sponsors can apply essentially without having to go
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  Speaker 8: higher expensive immigration attorneys.
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  Speaker 2: To get it done.
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  Speaker 3: So the laws that you speak of that are complicated,
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  Speaker 3: how difficult would it be to get rid of those laws?
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  Speaker 8: Well, it would require acts of Congress. Unfortunately Congress has
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  Speaker 8: not been able to show ability to pass major immigration
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  Speaker 8: law for many years. But I believe that this is
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  Speaker 8: something both sides would agree that it shouldn't be so
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  Speaker 8: slow and hard and complicated to come here. We should
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: have rules that don't have so many exceptions and exemptions
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  Speaker 8: and waivers that swallow those rules and just create busy
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: work for immigration attorneys to have to wave through.
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  Speaker 3: And the line that we've created for people that are
• 24:14
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• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a hearing, it's I mean, you just can't go through
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  Speaker 3: this many people in this kind of time frame, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just too many people waiting.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we've got major backlogs. So in the immigration court system,
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  Speaker 8: before Joe Biden came into office, the backlog there was
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  Speaker 8: one point two million cases. It's now up over three
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  Speaker 8: point seven million cases just in four years. And then
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: the backlog of applications at DHUS is nine point two
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  Speaker 8: million cases. And this is something I proposed in the paper,
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  Speaker 8: is that when your backlog becomes that unreasonable, stop in
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: taking more applications, get those backlogs down to a manageable
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  Speaker 8: level that can be managed year after year, and then
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  Speaker 8: resume taking in our application.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't agree with you more. In all of that, it
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  Speaker 3: seems like it's simple common sense. So why then the beef,
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  Speaker 3: why the's two decades of chaos? Is it? Because some
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  Speaker 3: people will say that it's because it's a political talking
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  Speaker 3: point for both sides. We can fix it we just
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  Speaker 3: don't want to.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's probably true for some. I just
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  Speaker 8: think that in part there we do have caps. We
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: have country caps, we try to have order about it,
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: We have annual caps, and the demand is just far
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: out exceeds what those caps are. But as we've seen
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: the last four years, you can't just toss out limits
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: and order and live in chaos. We can't absorb that
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  Speaker 8: many people, right, and so too many in power have
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  Speaker 8: been unwilling to say no. And for many of them
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  Speaker 8: they see benefit and always saying yes, whether that is
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  Speaker 8: political power, money, influence.
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  Speaker 3: Et cetera. Lourie's Heritage Foundation, they have a paper out
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  Speaker 3: you can read it at the Heritage dot org and
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  Speaker 3: everybody is talking about it and just sort of a
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  Speaker 3: plan to be put in place to try to solve
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  Speaker 3: this crazed immigration issue that we have. Would you say
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: it's accurate? I mean, the left wants to say the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: number is too high, but you know, the right says
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  Speaker 3: somewhere around ten million. I probably think it's more like
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  Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty. You think the number of people have
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  Speaker 3: come in the last four years is well.
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  Speaker 8: CBP reports that they have encountered over ten point six
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  Speaker 8: million in the last four years. That doesn't even include
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  Speaker 8: the over two million known gutaways where GDP saw them
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  Speaker 8: on a camera or a censor but wasn't able to
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  Speaker 8: get to them. And at one point Secretary of ma
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  Speaker 8: York Is the Homeland Security said that they were allowing
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  Speaker 8: in at least eighty seventy five to eighty five of
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: the ten point six million. So yes, I think we're
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: talking over ten millions have been let in since Biden
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  Speaker 8: took off.
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  Speaker 3: It can you explain to everybody? And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how much time you have it, can you explain to everybody?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So if somebody comes to the border, let's say they
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  Speaker 3: come with a horde of a thousand for argument's sake,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: and so now they're at the border, they don't I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have IDs like the driver's lights. What do
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: they hand the people at the border and how do
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: they how does that exchange occur? And then they're off
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: on their way. I guess the reason why I asked
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: this question is we have no idea how many hardcore
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: criminals have been let in. We don't have any idea
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: how many potential terrorists have been let in. How does
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: that exchange work at the border and how long does
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: that usually take?
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: Well, you're right, we don't know who is coming. And
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: often people will ditch their documents as soon as they
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: get to the border. The litter of documents others have
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: found there is just astounding every single day. And they
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: do that because they don't want border patrol to know
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: that perhaps they were already safely resettled in a third country.
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: This is common for Haitians, for example, they hadn't been
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: living in Haiti for years. They've been resettled in perhaps
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Costa Rica or someplace else in South America, and knowing
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: that would mean that they would not be eligible for
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: asylum here if they already had resettlement elsewhere, And so
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  Speaker 8: they ditched those documents and say, no, I just came
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: from Haiti and I can't go back. You have to
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: give me asylum. And so they can give us fogus names.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: If border patrol has enough time to collect your biometrics,
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: we at least freeze their biometric at that point going forward,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: so law enforcement would know and subsequent encounter, hey, you've
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: already been encountered. We don't know if the biographic you
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: name that they gave is correct or not, and vetting
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  Speaker 8: is just utterly lacking because the agents are so overwhelmed
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: they don't have time to necessarily that if at all these.
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  Speaker 3: People are encountering how do they even know who they're
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: encountering are? So they say their name is John Smith,
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  Speaker 3: they're from Haiti. You take their biometrics and maybe or
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: even if you don't have time to do that, then
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: they're often on their way and we have no idea
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  Speaker 3: who they are, right, We've literally clueless on that.
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  Speaker 8: And so many of the countries that people are coming from,
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  Speaker 8: you know, they either have very inadequate criminal histories or
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: they're not willing to share it with us, saying Venezuela,
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  Speaker 8: and so we often don't know the background if these
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  Speaker 8: people have committed crimes in their home country or elsewhere.
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  Speaker 8: Sometimes I will get information, you know, weeks months later,
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  Speaker 8: and then uh, you know, have to go find this
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  Speaker 8: person and arrest them, right, you know, there's been too
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  Speaker 8: many examples of that in the past four years. But
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  Speaker 8: this is you know, this is the result of some
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  Speaker 8: border intentional policy by the current administration. Unfortunately, you know,
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  Speaker 8: Donald Trump will will bring a lot more order, right
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, is completely shutting down the border for
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  Speaker 3: to do that, would that make it easier for them
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  Speaker 3: to go and try to round up and I use
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: that word round up, maybe that's the wrong word, but
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  Speaker 3: try to grab as many folks who have slipped through
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  Speaker 3: the cracks as possible. Because Homan is talking about a
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  Speaker 8: It's going to take a lot of resources. They can
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: shut down the border very quickly. He's done it before
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  Speaker 8: effectively through a number of tools. And so that's CBP's job,
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  Speaker 8: and then it's ICE's job, along with help from the
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  Speaker 8: military and other departments in the federal government and the
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: help of state and local law enforcements, to will find
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: starting with the worst of the worst, the national security threats,
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: the terror threats, the convicted aggravated felon's rapist murders, the
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: gang members, and working the way down the list. And
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: so they did an effective job in twenty seventeen during
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: his first term, they quickly arrested a lot of MS
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: thirteen gang members, for example. Unfortunately, now we're dealing with
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  Speaker 8: yet a new gang trenda at Agua from Venezuela. You know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: Blake and Riley's murderer was from the gang, et cetera.
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  Speaker 8: So it's going to take I don't like the expression
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: whole of government. It's over use, but it is applicable
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: in this case, whether that's Justice Department, Health and Human Services,
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  Speaker 8: the Census Bureau, social Security Administration, IRS, et cetera, to
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  Speaker 8: share information to help locate many of these people.
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  Speaker 2: That need to go home.
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  Speaker 3: One of our congressional candidates, unfortunately, who lost in the
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  Speaker 3: equivalent of an Ellis Island again. Would you agree with that?
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  Speaker 8: Well, Ellis Island was actually the old system to come
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  Speaker 8: into the country. It was certainly orderly. It was for
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  Speaker 8: many years, you know, before air travel, and it did
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  Speaker 8: allow for a more lawful, orderly immigration system. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: that's what people kind of harken back to in this
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  Speaker 8: nostalgic view of immigration now with air travel smuggling, and
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  Speaker 8: you know, we're a very different country and therefore have
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  Speaker 8: But in terms of orderliness, then yes, that is certainly
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for all that you do. I appreciate it,
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  Speaker 3: and I appreciate the Heritage Foundation and being the tip
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  Speaker 3: of the spear on this because we need we need
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  Speaker 8: Heritage dot org under a border security or they can
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• 38:24
  Speaker 9: number of times. So there's this lasting legacy, and that's
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: always been the province of the president, the privilege to nominate,
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: and then of course Congress consent and affirm right. And
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: so these decisions, I don't think they're seizing what is
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: not properly theirs right the decision is before them. Less
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: than one percent of cases are actually heard. There's this
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: process called applying for cershu arari, which is law Latin
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: for just review. And the cases have trickled through and
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: they've been viewed as victories. As you know, the Conservatives said.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: How many cases does the Supreme Court here every year?
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: I don't have the number, but it is, well, it's
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: in the hundreds. And come the fall term there's a
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: whole bunch of decisions. People are on edge waiting for
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: these decisions. They have lasting effect. And I go back to,
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: you know, the original decision with the Trump case, and
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: I don't look at it is so bad, and people
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: are clamoring about the whole abortion issue, throwing it back
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: to the states. I'm essentially a federalist and not get
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: heat by people letting local decide. But arguably, as we've said,
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: you know, it shouldn't be different in California and Connecticut.
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: Unabortionate it shouldn't be should not? I mean, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: something like life, that seems to be an issue which
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: crosses state lines, right, And that used to be the
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: definition of what is properly a federal question.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Does it cross.
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  Speaker 9: State lines or is it unique to a particular state.
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: That's what makes that issue such a hot potato.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: All right, So the uniqueness of the state would be
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: your determining factor as to whether or not it should
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: be them that make their own desis vision. Well, see, we.
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: Throw things back to the states. But again, should somebody
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: be able to access abortion in Florida or not access
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: it in Florida and access it in Connecticut. Need you
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: travel down the country to get the same procedure. That
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: seems fundamentally unfair, and it certainly will fall in economic lines.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: But if you were to give that question as to
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: whether or not abortion should be a constitutional right to
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. My guess is they would come back
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: and say it's not a constitutional right.
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: They I think they might say, in all respect it is,
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: but it should be left to Congress. I go back
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: to Rovers's weight. I actually think the Supreme Court ought
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: not have weighed in, but they did, and so it
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: was the jurisprudence for over fifty years. Again, Congress was
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: more than happy to shove it on somebody else.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: So when you say Congress should make the loss, so
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Congress should determine whether or not abortion should be legal.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: Well that's my personal view, and there's been many that
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: different because the Supreme Court they're not elected officials, but
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: they are part of the tri cameral form of government. Sure,
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: it's a question of the structure of government. I mean,
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: who would have thunked this back in Constitution Hall in Philadelphia.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: It's a heavyweight to put on them, to be honest
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: with you, because you have to determine what there was
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: inside the minds of the founding fathers at that point.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: It's impossible, isn't it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: And I'm going to give you an expression here, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: that's why they get paid the little bucks. I said
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: the little bucks because I heard the discussion on the
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: radio about my daughter was delayed coming home from Washington.
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: As you know, she works for the Hill, And because
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: they didn't pass the budget and people were wrangling over
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: the cost of living adjustment for congressmen, I did not
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: realize that the starting pay for congressman is one hundred
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: and seventy four thousand dollars. Now that's a grand amount
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: of money, but it's less than a Connecticut Superior Court
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: judge that now the starting salary for the judge is
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: one hundred ninety four thousand. It used to be one
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: hundred and sixty seven. When I was there, they really
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: bumped it up. It gave us two raises in ten years,
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: then they took one back. What's my point. If you
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: want to attract people to make these decisions, you've got
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: to pay them fairly. Now, you're not supposed to get
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: rich in Congress because what they do is they go
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: there for a few years and or they stay forever,
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: as we know forty fifty years, which I don't think
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: was the intention. Or they leave and they triple their
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: compensation as a lobbyist, they'll go from one hundred and
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: seventy four to six hundred I'm okay with a cost
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: of living adjustment because you and I know, because you
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: have Congressman Simmons and others on it's awfully tough to
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: maintain two residences flying back and forth. And I know
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: as a matter of fact that Ron Meekley, former Congressman
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: from Rhode Island who then led Bryant University, his wife
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: did not want to stay in Washington, so they did
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: the Monday Thursday commute thing right and very hard. It's
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: very hard. And they're in shoeboxes somewhere in Georgetown and
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: these little apartments.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: All Right, ladies and gentlemen's name is judge John and Nizarro.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: We get them as often as we can. A brilliant
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  Speaker 3: legal mind, retired judge joining us here on the national stage.
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