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BREAKING: Fidelity BUYS 49,000 Bitcoin | EP 915 · Simply Bitcoin

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  It's. All going to zero against
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  Bitcoin. It's going up.
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  Forever. You're against Bitcoin.
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  You're against freedom. Yeah.
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  Welcome to another episode of Simply Bitcoin Live.
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  We're your number one source for the peaceful Bitcoin evolution
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  and cover breaking news. Culture, Matic Warfare.
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  We will be your guide through the separation of Money and
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  state. Another crazy Day in ETF land.
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  Check out this headline from this article.
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  Fidelity Inflows Smash Grayscales Outflows as $255
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  Million enters the US market. And of course I'm talking about
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  255,000,000 flowing into Bitcoin.
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  That's kind of a big deal. This is another vindication for
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  Michael Saylor. I never forget his face at
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  Pacific Bitcoin 20/22. He was sitting in the front row,
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  he was watching all the talks. But Bitcoin was sitting at like
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  16,017 thousand at this time. This guy's face, I mean, you
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  know, of course we've all been through that.
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  We've all paid our price of tuition.
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  But this man was down billions of dollars.
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  He had a public company behind him.
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  He had shareholders behind him, and he stuck it through.
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  And this is vindication. This is him winning.
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  I think his average price per Bitcoin was about 31,000 or 30K
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  per coin. You know what?
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  The guy's up. Billions of dollars in his, in
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  his, in his investment. And this is just the very, very
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  beginning. So we're going to cover all of
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  that. We have an article for you guys
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  as well. Google has now allowed ETF ads.
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  So if you search Bitcoin ETF on Google, the very top, the very
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  top search results, it will be ads for the Bitcoin ETF.
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  So it seems like Wall Street is embracing it.
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  I tweeted out this meme of a Trojan horse.
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  They have no idea what they let inside.
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  They couldn't resist bitcoins incentives.
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  And in other news as well, you had Janet Yellen saying the
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  quiet part out loud, saying basically that the government,
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  the Fed doesn't have the capability to lower prices,
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  right. But they always talk about that
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  how inflation is going lower, but they never talk about the
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  fact that just because inflation is going lower, that doesn't
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  mean that the prices are going to go back to where they were.
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  That just means that the rate of increase of prices slightly
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  slows down, right. So they ever talk about all
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  that, this is all about education.
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  This is all about, you know, really getting, getting people
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  to understand what is going on. And Speaking of education,
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  Speaking of tools, we have a, we have a great guest today.
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  He's the author of Bitcoin Evangelism.
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  If you buy this book, it's a great tool that you can use to
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  orange pill your friends, your family, all coiners, every
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  single person. So anyway, it's going to be a
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  great show. Speaking of our guests, I'm
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  going to let them up and thank you so much for joining us.
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  I had to show your book because it was perfect.
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  I did not plan it, but it was a perfect segue when I was talking
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  about education and educating the people around you.
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  So welcome my friend. Welcome back to Simply Bitcoin.
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  Thanks brother. I appreciate the the plug.
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  I'll. I'll make sure to send you 5
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  bucks in Bitcoin for that extra little dude.
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  I don't want your money. You did.
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  You did that free of charge. I appreciate it man.
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  Thank you. But no, I mean that's the that's
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  the way, right. It's it's it's we have to think
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  about baby steps along the way. We're in the education phase,
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  whether we like it or not. We want to be on, we want to be
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  on step 10 right now. But man, we still have so many
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  people to Orangeville and a lot of the low hanging fruit for
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  Bitcoin is, is the altcoin space, right.
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  A lot of us went through an altcoin phase to get to Bitcoin.
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  And I mean, if we can, if we can educate that space, then then
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  you're talking about millions of bitcoiners.
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  Essentially overnight people wake up.
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  At different times, people get Bitcoin at the price they
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  deserve. But still, nonetheless, we all
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  benefit from a hyper bitcoinization which is mass
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  adoption. Absolutely, 100%.
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  And your Co host who is optimistic today, I do see Tatum
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  in the chat, we have to could you ban him?
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  Opti, please could you get him out of here?
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  Yeah, no, we have admins in there.
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  Ban Tatum. He's not allowed.
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  Yeah, yeah, we can't have Tatum in here.
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  But anyways, how you doing, Opti?
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  What's up? Man, I'm doing good, man.
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  You seem optimistic. Yeah, life's good.
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  God's good. Everything's great, man.
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  This is. It's so beautiful being on the
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  Bitcoin standard, especially considering all the crazy stuff
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  happening in the world. You can just kind of sit back
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  and observe clown world and be like man, look at everyone going
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  crazy. All they need to do is saving
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  Bitcoin and watch the clown show happen.
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  But as Brian is saying, we are still in the education phase and
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  and I'm super excited to get Brian on the show today.
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  I I love when great speakers come on the show, 'cause we can
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  just sit back and and let them rant.
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  And Brian's one of those guys. So I'm sure you guys are going
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  to love the culture today. And no, yeah, that's going to be
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  a great show. I'm excited and man on this ETF
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  news, I know, I know we're all tired about talking about the
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  ETF, but they are scooping up so much Bitcoin.
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  I why is the price still going sideways?
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  What's going on here, man? They're taking all the Bitcoin.
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  I hope you guys are stacking still.
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  Yeah, I hope. I hope you guys are stacking
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  because they're going nuts. Wall Street is going nuts and
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  and it's crazy because the bull market hasn't even started yet.
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  The price hasn't even really started to like, you know, go up
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  yet and when you have all these, you know, and of course, I I
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  don't mean this in any type of derogatory fashion.
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  My parents are boomers, but the reality is that boomers.
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  We're having on boomers again. No, we're not.
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  We're not. We're not.
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  Boomers have the lion's share of the wealth.
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  Like that's the reality, right? And the ETF is a great mechanism
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  for get for them to get exposure in Bitcoin without them having
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  to sign up to, without having, without them having to jump any
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  extra hoops, Let's just pull it nicely like that.
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  So yeah, I mean, I think it is kind of a big deal in terms of
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  price, but the revolution is self custody, right?
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  It is self custody. It's about people taking custody
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  of their wealth, people taking back sovereignty.
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  So it's two separate things, like the ETF will be potentially
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  bullish for price. I think it will be, but from the
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  revolutionary aspect, I don't know man.
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  I I think a lot of people are going to get comfortable with
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  government Bitcoin, AKA Bitcoin ETFs.
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  So anyways, it's going to be a great show guys.
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  Anyways, this is nuts. This is crazy.
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  She was also the head of the Fed I met.
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  She was also chairman of the Fed I met at Right.
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  So talk about the revolving door.
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  Anyway, she it seems like she said the choir part out loud.
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  Here we go. How do you convince Americans
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  and voters that those prices might not go back to where they
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  were before the pandemic? Well, I think most Americans
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  know that prices are not likely to fall.
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  It's not the Fed's objective to try to push the level of prices
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  back to where they were. How do you convince a couple
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  things, right? Like, this is just so excuse my
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  specific example, I'm going to have to say it, this is fucking
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  Like, she's like, how are you going to convince Americans that
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  the price of things are going to go down?
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  And then she's basically saying, yeah, it's not the Fed's
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  objective to make things go down.
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  And then another thing right, is that it?
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  They continue to blame other things like the pandemic.
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  You know, my my favorite was like the war in Ukraine, the
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  supply chains. I remember hearing that 1000
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  times right then hearing there was going to be no inflation.
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  That was another, you know, gaslight that we heard for so
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  long. Just it reason after reason
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  after reason after reason blaming everyone and everything
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  but themselves, even though they are solely responsible for this.
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  This is the M2 money. So this is literally from the
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  Fed website itself. It literally shows you check
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  this out, this is right when the pandemic happened, this is all
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  the money they printed, right? And this had secondary effects
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  by the way, you want to know what you can't afford a home.
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  There you go. Why did this happen?
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  Because every time they print money, it's a wealth
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  redistribution mechanism from the lower middle classes that
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  don't have the means to save an assets.
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  Therefore they don't benefit from asset inflation back to the
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  very wealthy that do that do have the ability to save an
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  assets and back to the government that isn't being
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  discussed right. Like that journalist in my
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  opinion didn't ask the right question.
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  The right question is why does money have to decrease in
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  purchasing power in the 1st place?
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  What is money right? And I think this is where
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  Bitcoin really is a thorn in the ass for them.
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  This is why Bitcoin is so important.
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  This is why they can't make Bitcoin go away.
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  This is why they resort to gaslighting.
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  This is why they say Bitcoin is for money laundering, Bitcoin is
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  for terrorism, Bitcoin is for this.
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  When they talk about CBD CS they talk about bringing, bringing
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  more efficient payments. Even though in the United States
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  you don't need more efficient payments.
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  You have Zelle, you have cash app, you have Venmo, you have
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  PayPal, you have all those other you know you have ramp for
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  reimbursements for companies. You have all these like products
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  that come from the private sector that facilitate efficient
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  payments. Why do you need a central bank
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  digital currency? And why don't they ever mention
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  the, the reason as to why people are using an alternative in the
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  1st place? It's inflation, dummy.
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  It's the loss of purchasing power.
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  That's what it's about. But they can never admit that,
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  right? So our job as bitcoiners, Brian,
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  you owe me $100. Now arm yourself with the tool
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  as well. So you have no excuse.
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  We're going to talk about that. But listen, our job as
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  bitcoiners is to educate the people around us that it's not
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  left versus right, it's not red versus blue.
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  Whatever political party gets in power, they do the same freaking
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  thing. They print a ridiculous amount
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  of money and they give it to their friends.
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  It's really the party of orange versus the party of Green,
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  right? Whoever you vote into office
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  isn't going to make a difference.
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  And because it's 2024, I have to tell everybody in the audience,
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  it's your duty to get out to vote by putting your Bitcoin in
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  self custody because that's the most important vote that you can
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  make. That's the that's the vote that
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  will actually make a difference. That's the vote that will
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  actually change things because like, it doesn't matter.
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  It doesn't matter whether you vote Trump or Biden.
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  And they're going to do the same exact thing.
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  Now we are making progress in the political space, and I think
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  that's because we are winning the culture war, in my opinion,
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  Not the culture war that everyone's talking about, but
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  the Bitcoin culture war, right? You had the political candidate
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  Donald Trump mentioned that if you were to get elected he would
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  be against CBD CS. We had all the front runners on
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  both political aisles by the way, RFK Junior, Vivek
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  Ramaswamy, Ron DeSantis all talking about how there'd be
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  anti CBDC pro Bitcoin. So we are making progress,
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  right? But you really want to move the
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  envelope, Buy Bitcoin, mine Bitcoin, earn Bitcoin and take
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  that Bitcoin into self custody and do it properly.
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  Because if you do, if you don't do a property properly, that's a
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  very uncomfortable conversation you're going to have with your
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  grandchildren. Any.
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  Exactly. Stamp, seed vote with your
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  hammer. Love that.
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  Anyways, I'm going to pass it on to Brian.
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  Brian, what are your thoughts on this?
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  I mean, dude, you you literally wrote a book called Bitcoin
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  Evangelism, Planting Seeds for the Centralized Revolution.
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  So I know that you know how important education is in this
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  fight, right? That that the the questions were
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  just so wrong from that reporter.
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  Like they weren't even the right questions in the 1st place,
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  right? So anyways, I want to get your
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  thoughts on that. Well, so this is perfect.
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  OK, so you just said Bitcoin evangelism.
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  The my my debut book, the book that I'm writing right now
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  that's going to be launched next month is is I I quote simply
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  Bitcoin. You have two big quotes in the
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  book. One is is just a quote that's in
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  the book. Another is the entire title of
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  the chapter. Chapter six of the book is
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  called Tweets Are the Bullets and memes are the Artillery.
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  You guys say that all the time we're in nomadic warfare.
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  We're in information warfare. It's in an education warfare
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  that's the that's the battlefront.
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  Now how lucky are we that that instead of having to pick up
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  muskets and March to the front lines that the warfare is is one
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  of information and one of education.
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  So we're blessed in that regard and and like you said, it's it's
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  a matter of voting with our time, our attention, our money.
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  But bringing it back to the education point, asking that
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  question what His money is profound.
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  But then we can maybe even take that one step further asking
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  people why does a central governing body have the
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  authority over money? Like, like in principle.
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  I mean this is the best this, you know, there's an old saying
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  the best deception the devil ever made was convincing mankind
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  that he didn't even exist. Like the devil doesn't need to
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  get you to sell your soul to him.
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  The devil just needs to convince you that he doesn't exist and
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  then he gets you off the path. That's kind of what happens with
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  central bodies. They they they tailor the
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  conversation to how much money should we print?
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  Should we print a lot if you're a Democrat or should we just
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  print a little bit if you're a Republican?
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  That's the wrong question at all.
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  It's like, why do you even have the right to decide how much
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  money I, you know gets to gets to be in our society?
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  You look back at history. Anytime that a central governing
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  body makes the decisions for the collective, it ends poorly.
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  Like in the USSR, when the shoe, the central governing authority
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  over shoes, had to decide how many shoes to produce for the
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  next year, Well, there was always people that would walk
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  around barefoot because the the governing authority couldn't
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  figure out the right amount of shoes to make for society.
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  They either produce too much and then that means that in other
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  parts of society people had too little, or if they didn't
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  produce enough shoes, then people walked around barefoot.
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  Central governing authorities never make the right decisions.
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  And even when they have the best of intentions, when you think in
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  terms of the collective rather than the individual, it it hurts
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  the individual. So I don't know how many people
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  are familiar with Alan Turing. His team was the was the team
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  that cracked the Enigma machine of of of the Nazis which was the
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  cryptographic messaging system that the Nazis used to
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  coordinate military strikes. Well, a lot of people don't know
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  if if they are familiar with that.
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  They don't know that Alan Turing his team cracked out in 1941.
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  He cracked it four years before the end of the war.
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  We kind of historically think, oh, they cracked it and then we
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  won the war. No, the sad reality is, and this
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  mighty, this probably was the right call, but it just shows
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  that even when you have good intentions, like actually good
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  intentions and you have to think about the collective,
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  individuals get hurt. So they cracked it.
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  They cracked the code in 1941, but they took a strategic they
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  they went forth strategically and said, you know what, We
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  don't want the Nazis to know we've cracked this code.
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  So what we're going to do is we're not going to, we're
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  actually not going to respond to every military coordinated
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  attack that the Nazis do. So what that means is they
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  actually let civilian vessels get attacked by submarines.
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  So there was Americans, there's thousands of Americans and
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  British civilians that died crossing the Atlantic.
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  They were sunk by Nazi ships that the Allies knew was going
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  to happen. The reason they did that, they
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  they said because if we intercepted those, those
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  military strikes on civilians, then we would have given away
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  the fact that we we, we cracked this code.
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  So in the name of the collective, even with good
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  intentions to win the war, there was thousands of civilians that
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  would have not otherwise died if it wasn't for central planning.
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  So whether they have nefarious nefarious intentions or even
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  good intentions to win the war, central planning for the
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  collective never ends up well for the individual.
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  There's a great movie of that story, by the way.
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  It's called The Imitation Game. It's with that actor, Cumber.
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  I always have trouble pronouncing his last name.
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  Cumberbatch. Something like that.
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  Benedict. Benedict.
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  Cumberbatch. Exactly.
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  And also not to mention as well, is that he also got punished as
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  well. Like at the time, you know,
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  society wasn't as open to different sexual preferences, to
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  put it nicely, And they ended up forcing him.
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  They ended up forcing chemical crash castration on him.
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  So Can you imagine the first computer, like a lot of people
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  credit, you know, the Turing machine as the first computer
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  ever invented. They give him credit for that.
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  Could you imagine that guy invented that machine, saved,
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  you know, the allies countless, countless lives.
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  You know, basically, you know, help beat you know, the access
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  powers. Then they castrate them
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  chemically. Like that is the state for you.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, that is central planning.
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  Yeah, I 100% agree. But This is why we're here.
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  This is why we're bitcoiners, right?
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  With the separation of money in state, you know, I think we can
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  end we have a possibility of ending ending those endless
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  wars. I don't think World War 2 would
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  be possible without Fiat money. Right.
• 19:31
  You. That's a whole other rabbit
• 19:32
  hole, right? Anyways, Opti, I wanna get.
• 19:35
  I wanna get your take on this. I know, I know, We've been
• 19:38
  talking about all these subjects, but it's fascinating.
• 19:40
  What's your take on one of your exes?
• 19:43
  Janet Yellen. But before I pull that up, I do
• 19:47
  want to remind everyone right now on YouTube we do have.
• 19:51
  It's a very important one. And the question is, should Opti
• 19:56
  get back together with Chrissy Lagarde?
• 19:59
  The vast majority have said yes, We do need someone inside the
• 20:03
  wire. So Opti, what is your comment on
• 20:06
  your ex-girlfriend Janet Yellen? What's going on there?
• 20:09
  Well, well, I'm. I'm really just gonna be a
• 20:13
  little more sarcastic than I usually am.
• 20:15
  Well, actually, probably just as sarcastic as I usually am.
• 20:18
  I thought inflation was transitory.
• 20:20
  What is going on? Remember when they were telling
• 20:22
  us that, oh, inflation's gonna come down?
• 20:24
  We don't know how it's going to happen, but it's gonna come
• 20:27
  down. And now the narrative is shifted
• 20:29
  to, oh, I think Americans know that prices are going up
• 20:32
  forever. It's literally the reverse of
• 20:34
  the Michael Saylor It's going up forever meme.
• 20:37
  They're like, yeah, sorry guys. Like, it's not our man day to
• 20:40
  try to drop inflation. Even though wasn't Jerome Powell
• 20:43
  talking about, like, reversing inflation all of last year?
• 20:47
  And now they're like, yeah, sorry guys, we just give up on
• 20:50
  this like it. Sorry, you're going to get
• 20:52
  poorer. This is not our job.
• 20:54
  This is not what we care about. And it's just absolutely
• 20:56
  incredible. But I mean, to her credit,
• 20:59
  whether she meant to or not, like she did kind of admit to
• 21:04
  what we've been saying for a long time, guys, they printed
• 21:07
  40% of all dollars that ever were created in 2020.
• 21:11
  So this definitely ensures that prices will never go down again.
• 21:15
  It is mathematically impossible. Like the money is broken.
• 21:18
  They have to continue to print money to keep the economy going.
• 21:22
  Like at least we're kind of getting to the bare bones signal
• 21:26
  of what's going on here. It's like, yeah, there is a
• 21:28
  problem and it is the fact that they continue to print money and
• 21:33
  hopefully like what Brian was saying that Americans or rather
• 21:37
  the world in general wakes up to the to what Fiat money is, do
• 21:41
  what having a state apparatus literally decree on you what
• 21:46
  money is and then continue to have the power to print more and
• 21:50
  more money at will. Hopefully people are starting to
• 21:53
  realize what the ramifications of this are.
• 21:56
  It's making us all poorer. This is why we come on here
• 21:59
  every single day and we say to you it is simply Bitcoin.
• 22:02
  You want to hold on to something that cannot be debased. 21
• 22:07
  million hard cap is the most important feature of Bitcoin
• 22:10
  minus everything else. You know, censorship resistant,
• 22:12
  permissionless, the fact that you can, you know, send money
• 22:15
  around the world in 10 minutes and have into instant
• 22:18
  settlement, you know, all those other things are also features
• 22:21
  of Bitcoin. But the main problem for all of
• 22:24
  us around the world and why people are flocking to Bitcoin
• 22:27
  is because your paper money is getting cheaper and cheaper.
• 22:32
  You are getting poorer every single day by decree of these
• 22:36
  people. And now they're finally coming
• 22:37
  out and saying, Oh yeah, sorry guys, we have lost control of
• 22:41
  Fiat money. We have to continue to print,
• 22:43
  prices are never coming down and just accept this.
• 22:46
  I I think all Americans can accept the fact that you are
• 22:48
  getting poorer and that inflation is never going to come
• 22:51
  down. It's like, what is going on
• 22:53
  here? Remember, they spent all of last
• 22:55
  year gaslighting you that inflation will return to 2%.
• 22:58
  And now they're like, yeah, every American knows that it's
• 23:01
  never coming down again. It's like, I am so glad we do
• 23:04
  this show because we constantly in real time bring the receipts
• 23:07
  and like, this is what they said today.
• 23:09
  And then like a month later we're like, Oh yeah, and now
• 23:11
  this is what they're saying. And they're they they flip their
• 23:14
  narrative every other couple of weeks and now they're telling
• 23:16
  you, yeah, sorry bro, like you're going to get poorer and
• 23:19
  just accept it. And it's like, This is why we're
• 23:22
  simply Bitcoin, because all roads lead back to Bitcoin.
• 23:24
  The money is broken. Fix the money, fix the world.
• 23:27
  They have to keep printing money to maintain the economy, which
• 23:31
  means you are going to get poorer unless you hold on to
• 23:34
  something that they can't debase.
• 23:36
  It's like it's so simple and it it's not even.
• 23:40
  I'm not even surprised anymore that they come out on on
• 23:42
  television and and gaslight the population because most people
• 23:45
  really don't know what's going on and you can't really blame
• 23:47
  them. Like people are just trying to
• 23:49
  survive. Most people don't have the time
• 23:51
  to, you know, read, read human action and like get into the
• 23:55
  intricacies of economics. It's like they just want to
• 23:59
  survive and and and you know, provide for their family.
• 24:01
  And so like, it's absolutely horrible what these politicians,
• 24:07
  these central bankers are doing. And This is why we come out here
• 24:10
  every single day. This is why, you know, Brian
• 24:12
  writes the books. This is why we show up every day
• 24:14
  to try to educate people, at least plant the seeds at guys.
• 24:18
  There is a solution to this madness.
• 24:20
  The money is broken. You need to save in something
• 24:23
  that they can't steal from you. And this is Bitcoin.
• 24:26
  Amen to that. Amen to that.
• 24:27
  And that's exactly why, you know, Yelling and Chrissy.
• 24:30
  That's what they saw in Opti, that optimism.
• 24:33
  That they don't listen to me, bro.
• 24:34
  That. That optimism, that that that
• 24:37
  stage present. That man, I can't, I can't
• 24:41
  think. I can't think of enough words,
• 24:43
  man. That that gravitas.
• 24:46
  Yeah dude, it's, it's. Incredible.
• 24:47
  They really like the suit. They just like me in the suit.
• 24:51
  Oh, man. All right, everybody, let's get
• 24:53
  to the news. We have a lot to talk about
• 24:54
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  All right, guys, so more ETF news.
• 27:27
  Again, in terms of the Overton window, it is shifting.
• 27:31
  The boomers are warming up to this.
• 27:34
  They're they're open, They're opening.
• 27:36
  I mean, they they just can't resist bitcoins.
• 27:38
  Incentives, pure and simple. Here is a video of the president
• 27:42
  of Bone Fide Wealth on the legacy legacy media and he's
• 27:47
  talking about Bitcoin. He's talking about Bitcoin as a
• 27:49
  store of value. And again guys from a bitcoiners
• 27:52
  perspective we will say we've heard this a million times, but
• 27:56
  just remember who are the people that are watching the legacy
• 27:59
  media? Who are the people that are
• 28:00
  consuming this type of content? As bitcoiners we have to
• 28:03
  remember that a lot of the time we make Bitcoin, we make Bitcoin
• 28:07
  content for other bitcoiners. How do we break outside?
• 28:10
  How do we break the Bitcoin echo chamber?
• 28:12
  The way that we do that is by getting on more independent
• 28:15
  mainstream podcasts, more independent legacy media, not
• 28:19
  really independent legacy media. And that's really how you get
• 28:22
  the message out there. So, you know, when you have Tim
• 28:25
  Poole talking about Bitcoin, when you have Max Keiser going
• 28:29
  on Alex Jones and, you know, making fun of Alex Jones for
• 28:32
  not, you know, keeping those 10,000 bitcoins that that he
• 28:35
  gave him. When you have Natalie Burnell
• 28:37
  going on Fox Business, you know, dropping bombs, right.
• 28:40
  When you have Jack Mahler's going on CNN, you know, dropping
• 28:44
  bombs as well, right. That is a big deal because the
• 28:47
  audience of those channels of that content has not been
• 28:51
  exposed to Bitcoin. Well, they're getting exposed
• 28:53
  now. So we're definitely making
• 28:55
  progress. If you would have told me 5 to
• 28:57
  10 years ago where we were and then where we where we would be,
• 29:02
  I wouldn't have believed you this, You know, Bitcoin was
• 29:05
  still looked down upon, you know, in 2017.
• 29:07
  Larry Fink said that Bitcoin is an index of money laundering.
• 29:11
  Fast forward, you know he's advocating for this.
• 29:14
  You know, the CEO of the world's largest asset manager is going
• 29:20
  on legacy media, on legacy financial media, and he's
• 29:24
  literally talking like a bitcoiner.
• 29:25
  He's using all the talking points, right?
• 29:27
  So we're definitely making a lot of progress.
• 29:29
  I can't even imagine where we're going to be 5 years from now.
• 29:32
  Anyways, let's play the clip. That's right.
• 29:33
  And I I deal with this on Twitter all the time.
• 29:36
  There's definitely people who look at Bitcoin as like the
• 29:39
  currency that's going to be left when society collapses and it
• 29:41
  looks like Mad Max. Out there.
• 29:43
  Now when you talk to boomers, though, I'm not sure that's
• 29:45
  going to resonate versus, oh, it's a new digital goal.
• 29:47
  That's how Larry Fink positions it.
• 29:49
  How do you talk to them about this?
• 29:51
  Do you go as far as like, hey, this is a hedge against like the
• 29:54
  collapse of society? Or are you more just like, hey,
• 29:56
  look, it's a little hot sauce. It's an interesting currency.
• 29:59
  A lot of smart people are involved.
• 30:00
  Like, how do you talk about it? Yeah, I think two things can be
• 30:02
  true here, right? I do view it in the most
• 30:04
  simplistic form as digital gold, as a digital store of value.
• 30:08
  Now granted, store of value in the price action of Bitcoin
• 30:11
  might not go hand in hand, but also, you know, the room for
• 30:15
  alternative investments in a portfolio.
• 30:17
  I think clients are always seeking for things that aren't
• 30:19
  you know, correlated or have the ability to produce alpha.
• 30:23
  You know to a degree these are things that clients will always
• 30:26
  have, you know some appetite for.
• 30:27
  So these two things like hey new asset class, can I you know
• 30:31
  partake in this maybe not the FOMO out of the system and will
• 30:35
  this actually add value to my long term investment strategy?
• 30:38
  OK, so that's the theory talking about it, right?
• 30:41
  You know, I'll talk, but let's actually take a look at the
• 30:44
  numbers. Let's take a look at what has
• 30:46
  happened over the last couple days.
• 30:48
  First, let's start with the Google News.
• 30:51
  So First off, Bitcoin ETF ads may appear on Google starting
• 30:56
  Monday. Community speculates, well, it's
• 30:57
  not speculation anymore and I did verify this myself This
• 31:01
  morning. I got a Franklin Templeton ad,
• 31:04
  but apparently watcher, Guru, and in this screenshot he got an
• 31:08
  ad for the Vanek ETF. And he got an ad for the
• 31:13
  BlackRock ETF. So it looks like all these ETFs
• 31:16
  are competing for your business Now.
• 31:18
  Today's article that I wanna check out today is It's by
• 31:22
  Crypto Slate and the headline for audio listeners is Fidelity
• 31:25
  Inflows Smash Grayscale Outflows as 255,000,000 Bitcoin two
• 31:32
  $255,000,000 worth of Bitcoin enters U.S. market.
• 31:36
  It goes on to say Grayscale's Bitcoin Trust is experiencing a
• 31:39
  slowdown in outflows with just under 200 million withdrawn from
• 31:43
  the fund on January 29th. Data from Bit Mex research
• 31:47
  indicates a total outflow of around 192 million during this
• 31:51
  reporting period. Notably, this marks the lowest
• 31:54
  outflow since the fund's inception, surpassing only the
• 31:57
  initial day of trading with when withdrawals amounted to 95
• 32:01
  million. Meanwhile, a look at the newborn
• 32:04
  nine shows that the inflows into the funds keep offsetting that
• 32:07
  of Grayscale. That's a I think that's that's I
• 32:11
  mean that could explain why the price recovered from 40,000 to
• 32:15
  43,000 and a lot of people were speculating or a lot of people
• 32:19
  were theorizing that the reason that we dumped from 48 K down to
• 32:24
  39 or down to 40 was because of all the cell pressure from
• 32:28
  grayscale. Anyway seems like nature is
• 32:30
  healing there's only you can only the.
• 32:32
  The awesome part about Bitcoin is that when there's only like
• 32:36
  if you want to have cell pressure on Bitcoin, if you want
• 32:38
  to sell like there's only so much you're going to eventually
• 32:40
  run out of Bitcoin to sell. Like that's the problem and
• 32:42
  you're going to end up having to buy it at a higher price later.
• 32:45
  So anyways goes on to say Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin
• 32:48
  Fund emerge as a standout concluding the 12th day of
• 32:51
  trading with the highest inflow of 208,000,000.
• 32:54
  In comparison, other funds including Black Rocks
• 32:57
  experienced 198,000,000 inflow ETF such as BITB Arc.
• 33:03
  The BTCO recorded inflows of 20,000,017 million and three
• 33:07
  million respectively, while others reported 0 inflows.
• 33:11
  Wow, looks like some the the Franklin Templeton one is
• 33:15
  getting wrecked. So is the Valkyrie.
• 33:17
  Holy cow, Wow. Anyways goes on to say however,
• 33:22
  Grayscale's GBTC remains the top cryptocurrency ETF and liquidity
• 33:25
  as Bloomberg Intelligence analysts James Seifart said
• 33:29
  Seifart observed despite recent outflows, GCC trading volume
• 33:33
  breached 570 million on January 29th, surpassing Black Rocks by
• 33:39
  110 million and reaffirming its market dominance.
• 33:44
  Following its recent conversion, Grayscale's ETF has experienced
• 33:47
  substantial outflows totaling more than $5 billion.
• 33:50
  Analysts attribute the outflows to profit taking maneuvers by
• 33:53
  investors exposed to its previous net asset value
• 33:57
  discount further. Furthermore, the funds
• 33:59
  relatively high 1.5% management fee is cited as a factor that
• 34:03
  has LED some investors to shift towards competing ETF providers.
• 34:07
  Now the beautiful thing about markets is that when different
• 34:10
  companies competes with their products, you know, the user
• 34:14
  wins, the consumer wins, right. So I think you're seeing the
• 34:17
  market do what the market does. And you know a lot of these ETFs
• 34:22
  are just getting wrecked. A lot of people have showing no
• 34:24
  interest and it seems like there are some leaders.
• 34:27
  So the leaders seem to be the bitwise, the arc, the fidelity,
• 34:31
  the the Black Rock ETF and then the grayscale.
• 34:35
  But it seems like a lot of people are leaving grayscale.
• 34:37
  But I have an update for you guys.
• 34:39
  This is the same author that that article quoted Mr. James
• 34:44
  Seifard and he said OK, both fidelities FBTC and Black Rocks
• 34:49
  I bit have traded more today than GBTC, so it looks like GBTC
• 34:54
  has lost its place at the top in terms of volume.
• 34:58
  Right now the two leading the pack are BlackRock and Fidelity,
• 35:03
  both of which have bought over. Fidelity bought estimated
• 35:07
  between 48,000 to 50,000 Bitcoin and the BlackRock, it seems like
• 35:11
  they've bought in 50,000 Bitcoin themselves.
• 35:13
  That's 100,000 Bitcoin between both of them.
• 35:17
  So absolutely crazy news and what's going on And again, like
• 35:21
  I said, free markets do what free market does and it creates
• 35:25
  competition. Everyone, you know, everyone
• 35:27
  wants a piece of the pie and it looks like you know halfway
• 35:31
  across the world in Hong Kong. It seems like over there there
• 35:35
  are companies also trying to apply for a spot Bitcoin ETF and
• 35:39
  if this gets accepted right we, we know based on articles that
• 35:43
  we read you know read to you guys a couple months ago that
• 35:46
  they that Hong Kong has the stamp of approval to be this
• 35:49
  quote UN quote crypto hub. So like and it's awesome because
• 35:53
  the Chinese government benefits from from both, right Because it
• 35:57
  has its. I forget what the name of the
• 35:59
  system is. It's one country, two systems,
• 36:02
  something that I totally butchered it.
• 36:03
  The point is though is that Hong Kong is isolated from the rest
• 36:06
  of the mainland and it seems like they're using Hong Kong as
• 36:09
  this testing ground to benefit from number go up technology
• 36:12
  while keeping the rest of the mainland isolated.
• 36:15
  You know, with the whole CBDC stuff that they're trying to
• 36:17
  roll out over there. But this would, if this gets
• 36:20
  approved in Hong Kong, there would be an ETF in Europe, there
• 36:23
  would be an ETF in Canada, there would be an ETF in the United
• 36:26
  States and there would be an ETF in Hong Kong, right.
• 36:30
  So again, you can't resist bitcoins Incentives.
• 36:32
  This is Bitcoins. Incentives are winning.
• 36:35
  They're irresistible. I have a live view of its
• 36:38
  incentives right here. It's just sucking up all the
• 36:41
  world's capital. And you know, it's just getting
• 36:45
  all sucked up. This is a live view of Bitcoin.
• 36:47
  You know, everyone says that Bitcoin lives in cyberspace and
• 36:50
  nobody knows what it looks like. Here it is.
• 36:52
  That's not a black hole. That's black.
• 36:54
  That's Bitcoin sucking up everything anyways.
• 36:57
  Yeah, dude, this is pretty crazy.
• 36:58
  But at the same time, not surprising whatsoever what's
• 37:03
  going off and what's going on in the ETF world.
• 37:05
  But this is simply Bitcoin, so we're going to give you another
• 37:07
  perspective, right? So that's the perspective from
• 37:09
  the ETF stuff. It's very exciting.
• 37:11
  You know, if you're a Boomer and you're comfortable with your
• 37:14
  Charles Schwab account, you don't have to sign up to, you
• 37:17
  know, one of the many exchanges like SWAN, like strike, like
• 37:20
  River, like Bitcoin. Well, you can, you know, you can
• 37:24
  just go on your Charles Schwab account and buy government
• 37:27
  Bitcoin. That's cool, right?
• 37:29
  But on the other hand, from the revolutionary aspect, right, we
• 37:32
  have to remember what is the revolution?
• 37:34
  The revolution is Bitcoin in self custody, right?
• 37:38
  If people don't take self custody, there is no revolution,
• 37:41
  right? So our job as bitcoiners is to
• 37:44
  really get that word out there, you know, not your keys, not
• 37:47
  your cheese. And things will really, really
• 37:49
  start to change when you have a big portion of the population
• 37:53
  that don't want to, that are holding the custody of their
• 37:57
  wealth. That's when things really,
• 37:58
  really change because it takes away the government's ability to
• 38:03
  to really print effectively and it takes away the government's
• 38:07
  ability to confiscate on a mass scale like they did back in the
• 38:11
  1930s with the 6102 order. The reason that they were able
• 38:14
  to get away with that is because of the centralization of the
• 38:17
  custody of gold. But if you have millions upon
• 38:20
  millions of individuals holding their own wealth, are you trying
• 38:23
  to tell me in the most armed country on the face of the
• 38:26
  planet, dudes in suits are going to go door to door and say give
• 38:29
  me your money or give me your wealth?
• 38:31
  I don't know if that's going to work out so well, right.
• 38:34
  So yeah, I mean, that's why self custody is so important.
• 38:37
  That's what makes it so unique. Custody of gold is difficult.
• 38:41
  Fine. You can buy yourself an ounce of
• 38:43
  gold, right? So, you know, it's pretty small.
• 38:45
  But what if you have millions of dollars of gold?
• 38:47
  What if you have billions of dollars of gold?
• 38:49
  Try, try carrying that. Try moving that.
• 38:52
  Try sending that across the world instantaneously.
• 38:55
  It's almost impossible, right? What makes Bitcoin unique is the
• 38:58
  fact that you can theoretically memorize A12 word seed phrase.
• 39:02
  I don't recommend that, by the way.
• 39:04
  And you could store 1,000,000 billions, if not trillions of
• 39:07
  dollars in your mind. Imagine how nervous you would be
• 39:11
  to remember those words. But the point I'm trying to make
• 39:13
  is that if you're in a pickle, right?
• 39:15
  And there's been countless examples of this throughout
• 39:17
  history. If you're in a pickle, if you
• 39:19
  live in a totalitarian government, right?
• 39:22
  A lot of the reasons that people did not leave is because they
• 39:25
  couldn't take their wealth with them.
• 39:27
  Now you can, but only if you take the step and you take a
• 39:32
  little bit of personal responsibility and you learn how
• 39:35
  to take self custody. Anyways, that's my take.
• 39:38
  I want to pass it on to Brian and then we'll hit Opti.
• 39:43
  Yeah, I mean, you're right. I mean, and and we say this all
• 39:45
  the time, like, you know, if you're in a totalitarian state
• 39:48
  that you need to be ready for this, it's because, yeah, like
• 39:51
  those are the people that are, are the most at risk.
• 39:54
  But 61 O2 was a pretty fast passage of an executive order or
• 39:59
  or of a bill. And so at that time, America was
• 40:04
  the freest place on earth and it still happened here.
• 40:07
  So yes, I like, I say that all the time.
• 40:09
  But at the same time, we need to remember that it can happen
• 40:11
  here, It can happen anywhere. So I'm glad that you made that
• 40:13
  point about 61 O2. As far as the the the Google ads
• 40:18
  thing, Boomers need Google ads. Let's just let's just be frank.
• 40:24
  They don't look through organic search results.
• 40:26
  Like they will not go past the 1st 3 results if it looks kind
• 40:29
  of complicated. So yes, like does this matter?
• 40:32
  It absolutely matters. Like my mom's not going to go
• 40:34
  past the Google ads. She needs it spelled out for her
• 40:37
  now. My mom, she has self custody
• 40:39
  Bitcoin. That's not the problem for her
• 40:41
  but for her friends that might be an issue.
• 40:44
  And then when it comes to that, I like the the picture of the
• 40:48
  black hole. It's like I imagine that's what
• 40:50
  the inside it's like a live view of the inside of a node or
• 40:53
  something like that what that looks like.
• 40:54
  But yeah the I'm not worried about the the price going down
• 40:59
  grayscale selling and and and putting cell pressure on the
• 41:02
  market or anything like that. We're already seeing the remedy
• 41:04
  to that. But the reason I don't worry is
• 41:06
  because think about this Absolutely the case, the higher
• 41:10
  the price of Bitcoin goes, the higher the conviction of the
• 41:14
  convicted you'll have. So think about this.
• 41:17
  There's always going to be people selling and buying
• 41:20
  Bitcoin at the margin. They have no conviction.
• 41:22
  We're not, we don't care about them.
• 41:23
  Only small movements in the price are going to happen at the
• 41:27
  margin by the people that don't have conviction.
• 41:29
  Now the people that have high conviction, everybody in this
• 41:32
  room, everybody in this audience right now, we don't move.
• 41:36
  We don't, We don't, we don't sell.
• 41:37
  We never enter the margin because our conviction's so
• 41:40
  high. As every generation of
• 41:42
  Bitcoiners has come on board, the conviction of them is
• 41:45
  higher. Think about this, you just said
• 41:47
  the the the story about Max Kaiser giving 10,000 Bitcoin
• 41:51
  away, he he did that for nothing, right?
• 41:53
  He did it maybe for a little bit of a clout for Bitcoin or to
• 41:57
  help Orange pill some some somebody.
• 41:59
  But he didn't sell it for $10,000 or $10 million or
• 42:02
  anything like that who had higher conviction than Max
• 42:06
  Keiser about Bitcoin. He was willing to put 10,000
• 42:09
  Bitcoin on the market for virtually nothing because the
• 42:12
  price the the, the buying power of it was so low at the time.
• 42:16
  And so the highest person that the person with highest
• 42:18
  conviction in Bitcoin at that time was willing to put 10,000
• 42:22
  on the market. And I'm not even willing to put
• 42:25
  10,000 SATS on the market right now because the price of it's
• 42:28
  gone up. That's only going to continue to
• 42:30
  happen when it gets to 60,070 thousand, 100,000 that the
• 42:34
  convicted, the people who have conviction will not put it on
• 42:38
  the margin and then the price will not move it.
• 42:40
  It'll only have a window of 10% price fluctuations in which it
• 42:44
  can move and who freaking cares about that?
• 42:47
  That's your stacking opportunities.
• 42:48
  That's a blessing. We understand that in the
• 42:50
  Bitcoin community, that's our time to stack more SAT, but it
• 42:53
  doesn't matter for it's not relevant for any kind of crash
• 42:57
  or anything like that that CNBC wants to put out there. 100%
• 43:01
  beautifully put, beautifully put, Opti.
• 43:03
  What's your take on all this, brother?
• 43:04
  Yeah, so you know, going back to that clip, I'm, I'm not the
• 43:11
  biggest fan of spot Bitcoin ETFs.
• 43:13
  You guys hear me say this like every single day.
• 43:15
  I think the most important thing for everyone out there is for
• 43:19
  you to hold Bitcoin directly. But again, I've I've been giving
• 43:23
  the caveat, I understand why people want spot Bitcoin ETF, so
• 43:25
  I'm not going to rehash that. But an interesting tweet I just
• 43:29
  saw come out this morning by Bitcoin Archive is, yeah, BTC
• 43:33
  Archive on Twitter is at the nine spot.
• 43:37
  Bitcoin ETFs have scooped up 150,000 plus Bitcoin.
• 43:43
  Like it. It's so much Bitcoin and it's
• 43:46
  only been live for what, like 13 days.
• 43:48
  It just goes to show what I've been saying for a minute that
• 43:50
  the institutional demand from customers and not necessarily
• 43:53
  from the you know, the guys at the head of these institutions,
• 43:57
  they want Bitcoin. And if this is the only way they
• 44:00
  can get exposure to Bitcoin, yes, maybe it's just Fiat price
• 44:03
  gains exposure but they still want exposure to Bitcoin.
• 44:07
  And I think it's only a matter of time until more people go
• 44:11
  down the rabbit hole and realize Oh my God, I might get rug
• 44:13
  pulled if I have my exposure in a spot Bitcoin ETFs and maybe I
• 44:17
  want to take Bitcoin into self custody.
• 44:20
  And you know, I I got reminded of the meme that American Huddle
• 44:26
  put out a while ago and I've I've been kind of recycling it
• 44:29
  on the show about you guys will have to make it through the
• 44:33
  Huddle buyout zone. But I really love how Brian is
• 44:35
  is framing it because most of us bitcoiners like we have very
• 44:38
  high conviction in Bitcoin. We realize that like what are we
• 44:41
  going to go back to? Paper money.
• 44:43
  I think once you fully get orange peeled and you become a
• 44:45
  bitcoiner, you realize there's no going back to the Fiat
• 44:48
  system. Yes, you will interact with the
• 44:50
  Fiat system, the traditional financial world, for as long as
• 44:53
  you have to to survive. But you're never going to go
• 44:56
  back and put your whole savings into Fiat because you understand
• 44:59
  that the game is not only rigged against you, but it is in a
• 45:03
  constant decline. As my buddy Eric Caisson said,
• 45:07
  he's like Fiat money is number go down technology, not only in
• 45:11
  your purchasing power but in the effects in society.
• 45:14
  Everything goes down, all the quality goes down on the Fiat
• 45:18
  system. And once you're on the Bitcoin
• 45:20
  standard or a personal Bitcoin standard, you realize, Oh my
• 45:23
  God, it's not only number go up in purchasing power, but every
• 45:26
  aspect of my life goes up. Not only do I have a lot more
• 45:30
  Peace of Mind, not only can I unplug and do the things I
• 45:33
  actually want to do, but you realize now I can actually be
• 45:36
  healthier and happier and live a life that I've always dreamed
• 45:39
  of. But since I was on the Fiat
• 45:41
  standard, I didn't have a chance to escape the hamster wheel.
• 45:44
  So you will have to make it through this auto buyout zone
• 45:46
  and we're seeing it play out in real time.
• 45:48
  It's only really been two weeks since the spot Bitcoin ETF has
• 45:51
  been approved and the price hasn't started running yet.
• 45:54
  We're still kind of in this, you know, crab market aspect of the
• 46:01
  the halving cycle. And you will soon get a point
• 46:06
  where all the Hodlers out there will get tested, the price will
• 46:09
  go up and you will have to make a decision for yourself.
• 46:11
  Do I want the Fiat games or am I here for much more than just
• 46:15
  price appreciation? And one more thing, Nico, before
• 46:19
  I end this, I really loved that clip.
• 46:23
  Nico, I I don't know if it was like MSNBC or whatever, but
• 46:28
  what's the guy's name like? Balconis.
• 46:30
  I think he's the Bloomberg analyst that posed the question.
• 46:33
  He literally said. And.
• 46:34
  And the other guy, I think his name was Doug.
• 46:36
  Sorry, I'm blanking on names. Really bad on names.
• 46:38
  They literally say what I say on the show all the time and I
• 46:41
  stole it from How to Win Friends and influences.
• 46:44
  It's like bait the hook for the fish you're trying to catch.
• 46:46
  Guys, look, Bitcoin I think can be framed in a lot of ways, and
• 46:51
  I really do believe in the meme. Fix the money, fix the world.
• 46:54
  And like, if you frame Bitcoin in such a way to people, find
• 46:57
  people's pain points, realize that everyone is different.
• 47:00
  We're all individuals and we all view the world through our own
• 47:04
  perception, our own POV, and we all have different problems
• 47:07
  going on in our lives. And if you can angle Bitcoin as
• 47:10
  the solution, or at least a starting point to a lot of
• 47:13
  people's pain points, then they start to ask themselves, wait,
• 47:17
  actually, maybe Bitcoin isn't for criminals.
• 47:18
  Maybe Bitcoin isn't as bad. Maybe these headlines I've heard
• 47:21
  about Bitcoin are wrong. Or maybe I've been lied to about
• 47:24
  Bitcoin and you frame Bitcoin as a starting point to fixing a lot
• 47:28
  of these solutions. And more people will be more
• 47:32
  incentivized to look into Bitcoin to realize, oh, I need
• 47:35
  to save some Bitcoin. And you know, of course they
• 47:38
  said if you frame, if you frame Mad Max currency to a boomers,
• 47:42
  they're never gonna want Bitcoin.
• 47:44
  But you say that to like a millennial or a zoomer, they're
• 47:46
  like, hell yeah, like, this is what I'm into.
• 47:48
  If you frame Bitcoin as being digital gold, maybe you get the
• 47:52
  Larry Finks of the world. If you frame Bitcoin as digital
• 47:54
  real estate, maybe you get people that are in the real
• 47:56
  estate market. So, like, Bitcoin can be framed
• 48:00
  in a lot of ways. And that's not to say that you
• 48:03
  are misleading people in the Bitcoin investment thesis.
• 48:07
  It's just going to show that everyone has a different pain
• 48:10
  point. We all look at the world through
• 48:12
  our own lens, and when you frame Bitcoin in a way that you show
• 48:15
  this will improve your lives, more people are going to get
• 48:19
  incentivized into looking into Bitcoin Like it's very simple,
• 48:23
  guys, Bitcoin is the solution to many of the world's problems.
• 48:28
  It's a starting point, the problem for all of us right now,
• 48:31
  and you see this happen in real time, especially considering it
• 48:34
  is an election year. It always boils down to the
• 48:37
  money. This is why everyone is freaking
• 48:38
  out and protesting and you know the left hates the right.
• 48:41
  The right hates the left is because everyone feels the pain
• 48:45
  of currency depreciation. We're all getting poorer and
• 48:48
  everyone's looking for a solution, but they're not
• 48:50
  looking in the right direction. It is the money is getting
• 48:54
  destroyed and this is by design and people just want to live a
• 48:58
  good life. Everyone out here, I don't care
• 49:01
  what side of the aisle you are on.
• 49:03
  People want to live a good life and everyone I think inherently,
• 49:07
  well, I won't say inherently, but I think majority speaking,
• 49:10
  most people are good people and they just want to provide for
• 49:13
  their family and they just want to survive.
• 49:16
  And people are basically just on survival level.
• 49:19
  And if you can show them that Bitcoin can provide them a
• 49:22
  better life, I think more people are going to get on the Bitcoin
• 49:26
  standard. I heard Nolan shouts out to
• 49:28
  Nolan, the break up pod morning show.
• 49:31
  He said it and I I love this meme.
• 49:33
  He's all like if you just show people that hyper bitcoinization
• 49:37
  is more fun than hyperinflation, more people are gonna join the
• 49:41
  Bitcoin revolution. Like life on a Bitcoin standard
• 49:43
  is just better than on a Fiat standard.
• 49:45
  Show them that being a bitcoiner is more fun than being a no
• 49:48
  coiner and you're gonna get more people on board.
• 49:52
  Amen bro. Amen, dude.
• 49:53
  Amen. They don't call him St.
• 49:55
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  All right, Brian, before I get you ranting on all these great
• 51:58
  topics that I know you're going to kill, I saw a few people in
• 52:00
  the chat unaware of what Orange Pill app is.
• 52:03
  So let let's just start with what is Orange Pill app and then
• 52:05
  we'll talk about the new features and the stuff you guys
• 52:07
  have just rolled out. Awesome man.
• 52:10
  Thank you. So Orange Pill app, it's it's
• 52:13
  simple man. It's a social network.
• 52:14
  It's not a it's not social media.
• 52:16
  Social media. The point of that is to doom
• 52:18
  scroll. You log into the app every time
• 52:20
  that you have two minutes, then you end up killing 15 minutes
• 52:22
  and you say what what did I do with my life here?
• 52:25
  The point of a social network is to connect you with other
• 52:27
  people. The more connections we have
• 52:30
  with other bitcoiners the more anti fragile we are.
• 52:33
  And then that's. But when, when when OPTI goes
• 52:36
  out and makes more connections with bitcoiners, that benefits
• 52:39
  me where I'm at, because he's strengthening the connections of
• 52:43
  the Bitcoin network. All I needed to be, all I need
• 52:46
  to do is be connected to one person and then the strength of
• 52:49
  their network benefits me. That's we.
• 52:51
  We understand network effects through Bitcoin, but a lot of
• 52:54
  times we kind of overlook the benefits of of network effects
• 52:56
  as people. So as Bitcoin, we have X now, we
• 53:00
  have Noster, we have all sorts of online mediums for or media
• 53:04
  for connecting bitcoiners online.
• 53:07
  But one of the missing components of a hyper
• 53:09
  bitcoinized future is in real life connections.
• 53:12
  Meetups have been a big part of bitcoins history.
• 53:15
  Conferences have been a big part.
• 53:17
  But one of the things that a lot of bitcoiners, the pain point
• 53:19
  for a lot of bitcoiners is it's like, hey, I I don't have the
• 53:22
  time or the money to go to a conference.
• 53:23
  You know what, There's there's no meetups in my area.
• 53:26
  But what you can do is you can go on Orange Pelap and find
• 53:29
  plebs that are in your area. It's it's it's easy.
• 53:32
  You just go on the app's going to show you people that are
• 53:34
  generally closest to you and you can you can shoot them a DM and
• 53:38
  you can have coffee with somebody this afternoon.
• 53:40
  I've met probably 11 people, like I have a bunch of
• 53:44
  connections through Orange Pill app, but I've met 11 people in
• 53:47
  my area where we've had lunch or we've gone out and got coffee or
• 53:50
  something like that and it's the best conversation.
• 53:53
  You've never met this person. You get to converse with them,
• 53:55
  you know through the DMS a little bit, get to know them a
• 53:56
  little bit. But then the first time you meet
• 53:58
  this person you can have a three hour conversation because you
• 54:01
  have so much common ground. I've met people that are 20
• 54:03
  years older than me. I've met people that are 10
• 54:05
  years younger than me. They're just the most
• 54:07
  fascinating people. And when you make that in real
• 54:10
  life connection, it just empowers the Bitcoin social
• 54:13
  layer because now I'm more anti fragile, They're more anti
• 54:16
  fragile and everybody we're connected to is more anti
• 54:19
  fragile. But the coolest thing that we
• 54:21
  just launched is the merchant section.
• 54:23
  So we always had the ability to connect one-on-one with other
• 54:26
  bitcoiners. A few months ago we launched the
• 54:29
  event section. So if you want to launch a local
• 54:31
  event or if you want to, you know, host a big meet up or a
• 54:34
  pizza day event or anything like that, you could do that through
• 54:36
  the app. But the latest thing we just
• 54:38
  launched is the merchant section, and this is for brick
• 54:41
  and mortar Bitcoin businesses. So if you have, if you're a
• 54:44
  plumber who accepts Bitcoin, if you're if you have a pizza shop,
• 54:47
  if you have a nail salon, if you whatever, whatever brick and
• 54:50
  mortar business you have, if you accept Bitcoin in your business,
• 54:53
  you just go to the orange pill app.com/merchants, sign up your
• 54:58
  business, and then anybody, any bitcoiners who are ready to
• 55:01
  spend Bitcoin in your community are going to be able to easily
• 55:04
  find you. One of the huge pain points
• 55:07
  though for Bitcoin businesses is that they don't get a lot of
• 55:12
  Bitcoin business if they're brick and mortar right?
• 55:13
  Because they they they could only access or they can only
• 55:17
  access the the Bitcoin customers who are near them.
• 55:19
  But there hasn't hasn't been a really good application to help
• 55:22
  you find people that are near you.
• 55:23
  So this is that solution. But then one of the other pain
• 55:26
  points is because they don't get a lot of Bitcoin business, they
• 55:30
  haven't properly trained their their employees on how to accept
• 55:33
  Bitcoin. And so there's all sorts of
• 55:35
  stories of plebs going into a business that says it accepts
• 55:39
  Bitcoin and then not actually having a way to effectively pay
• 55:43
  in Bitcoin. Well, one of the solutions we
• 55:45
  have through the app is you can upload your lightning wallet
• 55:48
  link directly through the app. So there's a message button to
• 55:52
  message the business and then there's a lightning bolt to ZAP
• 55:55
  the business so you can send your payment through lightning
• 55:58
  network through the app. So every merchant has a built in
• 56:01
  point of sale solution so that the ability to accept or not
• 56:05
  accept Bitcoin isn't a problem. If you have an orange full app
• 56:08
  profile and you have a lightning wallet, you have the ability to
• 56:11
  accept Bitcoin in your business. Boom, we're one step closer to
• 56:15
  hyper bitcoinization because the solutions like this we didn't
• 56:18
  build lightning wallets. We we harness the power of some
• 56:21
  of the developer community and we paired that with the tool
• 56:24
  that helps bitcoiners meet Bitcoin businesses in their
• 56:28
  community. I think this is a massive step
• 56:30
  forward and so I'm really happy to be a part of it.
• 56:32
  Love it and I just want. To say I just want to to say
• 56:34
  because the messages that I receive first of all anyone I
• 56:39
  really appreciate you guys reaching out.
• 56:42
  But the messages that that you know with Opti I know you're on
• 56:46
  this boat too that we've received on the orange palap of
• 56:50
  just people enjoying simply and just like you know it's just
• 56:54
  it's it's incredible and it allows you again like you guys
• 56:58
  could find me in the app. You guys could find Opti on the
• 57:01
  app even though he only for some reason only replies to central
• 57:05
  bankers that are over the age of 55.
• 57:08
  But I'm not as I'm not as exclusive.
• 57:12
  But yeah, you can connect with your favorite Bitcoin or there
• 57:15
  if you have a question that you've ever wanted to ask.
• 57:18
  BTC sessions, Natalie Burnell, just to name a few canutes.
• 57:21
  Vanholm, right. They're all on the app, right?
• 57:24
  You can connect with them. You can send them a message,
• 57:27
  right. You know, And it it it's, it's
• 57:30
  cool like that. And then I I know that you guys
• 57:31
  also have a feature 'cause I know this is like one of the big
• 57:35
  things, Brian, is that let's say you're traveling the world and
• 57:37
  you're in a new city. You guys have a feature that
• 57:41
  show the bitcoiners that are in your in your area 'cause like I
• 57:45
  don't know about by you guys, but I have a hard time.
• 57:48
  I still have my no coiner friends from high school and
• 57:50
  your high school friends. So you're never going to like
• 57:52
  that's something special, that bond that you have, but you
• 57:55
  don't really have a lot in common with them anymore, you
• 57:58
  know, it's like you kind of went in different directions.
• 58:01
  They're still in that Fiat, like lifestyle, Fiat mindset, you
• 58:04
  know, God bless their souls. But like what I'm trying to say
• 58:06
  is that you have a lot more in common with other bitcoiners
• 58:10
  that are on that same tip as you are.
• 58:11
  They're on that same world outlook worldview as you are.
• 58:15
  But sometimes, you know, you might be traveling, you might
• 58:18
  not know people in your local community.
• 58:20
  I think the Orange pull up is a great resource for for you to
• 58:23
  connect with other bitcoiners around you.
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  A. 1000% and and like you said, I mean probably one of the
• 58:29
  coolest components is when you're traveling like I I want
• 58:32
  to build out my my local network where where I live, like, right.
• 58:35
  Like, I want to connect with all the ranchers who accept Bitcoin
• 58:38
  because if COVID 2 Point O happens and there's food supply,
• 58:41
  you know, like I want to have those connections, that's
• 58:43
  important to me. But now it's it's also fun,
• 58:46
  right? It's not just the like whatever
• 58:48
  they said they said earlier about Mad Max Money.
• 58:50
  Like if Mad Max money is important, then knowing people
• 58:54
  who accept Bitcoin close to you is important.
• 58:56
  But like, let's talk about the fun component of it.
• 58:59
  Like when I was we went out to Washington, DC 6 months ago and
• 59:04
  Orange Poll app and Satoshi Action Fund, we passed out 535
• 59:07
  copies of the Bitcoin standard to every congressman and senator
• 59:11
  in the United States Capitol. That was crazy.
• 59:14
  On my way back, my my my layover flight in Dallas got delayed.
• 59:18
  Like I I basically had to sleep in the Dallas airport.
• 59:21
  And I I As soon as I I landed and I was sitting there, bored.
• 59:24
  I just opened the app and I'm like, oh, wow, there's like 12
• 59:27
  bitcoiners in the Dallas area. So I started messaging people
• 59:30
  because I didn't know if I there was a, there was a good chance I
• 59:32
  was going to have to be there for 14 hours.
• 59:34
  It ended up, I think it was only there for six or seven hours.
• 59:36
  So I kind of had to wait for standby flight.
• 59:38
  So I couldn't leave the airport. But I was coordinating with
• 59:41
  other bitcoiners in the area in Dallas, like, hey, do you have a
• 59:44
  place where I can crash for the night?
• 59:46
  If I'm going to be here for 14 hours, like, I might as well go
• 59:48
  get breakfast or like, if I need to sleep, I can.
• 59:51
  You can find bitcoiners on the road.
• 59:53
  That was as a guy who works at the Orange Pill Lab.
• 59:56
  Like I'm the marketing guy at Orange Pill that was this big,
• 59:59
  like, aha moment of this is a powerful resource for when I'm
• 1:00:03
  on the road, like I was out doing work for the Bitcoin
• 1:00:06
  community like Orange filling Congressman and on my way home.
• 1:00:11
  Like had access to this resource of the Bitcoin social layer.
• 1:00:14
  It was this beautiful picture. Just that to know that I had
• 1:00:18
  that as an option because bitcoiners are cool like that.
• 1:00:20
  Like, like like we like to extend things to other people in
• 1:00:23
  the community and there's something weird about when you
• 1:00:27
  know somebody's a bitcoiner, that there's a certain level
• 1:00:30
  like obviously we we we should have skepticism towards other
• 1:00:32
  people. But there's a there's one kind
• 1:00:34
  of kick in the box of, OK, I think I might like this person,
• 1:00:37
  let me continue to talk to them because, you know, there's
• 1:00:40
  there's a, there's a common ground, there's a common
• 1:00:42
  foundation. We both asked the question, what
• 1:00:43
  is money we put, that's the question, what is in my food we
• 1:00:46
  bought? We started to ask those
• 1:00:47
  questions. So you have a little bit more to
• 1:00:50
  start off with than just your your Fiat friends, Like you
• 1:00:52
  said, people you have lots of lots of history with.
• 1:00:55
  You actually have less of a foundation with those people
• 1:00:58
  than your Bitcoin bitcoiners that you've never even met
• 1:01:00
  before. Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  Hey wait Brian, can you expand on the Bitcoin social layer for
• 1:01:06
  people that aren't aware with it?
• 1:01:08
  And and then then also can you clear up the rumors whether
• 1:01:10
  Orange Pill app is a dating app and if people have gotten
• 1:01:13
  married someone? Has gotten married off of it?
• 1:01:15
  Really. Right.
• 1:01:18
  There's there's I don't. I mean I there there's a few
• 1:01:21
  couples I I know of I don't know if they've officially been
• 1:01:23
  married yet. I know Daniel Prince who who's
• 1:01:25
  an advisor on Orangeville app. We he he will officiate the
• 1:01:29
  first. He's agreed to officiate the 1st
• 1:01:31
  wedding if anybody does get married through Orangeville app.
• 1:01:34
  So I don't think that the marriage has happened yet but it
• 1:01:38
  is not a dating app. But if you go to maybe it's a
• 1:01:42
  dating app.com. It will lead you to the
• 1:01:44
  Orangeville app.com. Oh man, that is dude, that is so
• 1:01:50
  crazy. OK.
• 1:01:51
  OK. I was kind of trolling, but like
• 1:01:52
  expand on social layer and then let's talk about your book as.
• 1:01:55
  Well, hold on. I want to back up though,
• 1:01:57
  because. Hold on, hold on.
• 1:01:59
  OPTI usually interrupt me. I'm interrupting you.
• 1:02:02
  OK. So, Brian, Speaking of sleeping
• 1:02:06
  on people's couches, your CEO and founder slept on my couch.
• 1:02:12
  I've never met the guy. I've never met Matteo.
• 1:02:15
  And then I I think we connected. It was on the Orange pill up or
• 1:02:17
  something. And he was like, hey Nico, I'm
• 1:02:20
  like, hey, what's up man? And you know, I I knew he was
• 1:02:22
  with Orange Pill. Like obviously he knew I was
• 1:02:24
  with Simply. And he's like, I forget what it
• 1:02:27
  was. I was like, dude, I'm coming to
• 1:02:28
  Miami to the Bitcoin conference. I was like, dude, do you need a
• 1:02:31
  place to stay on the first day? And he showed up in my apartment
• 1:02:35
  like one in the morning and I'm like, there you go, bro, Here's
• 1:02:38
  a couch, you know, make yourself at home.
• 1:02:40
  And then he left in the morning. I never, like, saw his face in
• 1:02:43
  the light, never had a chance to speak with him.
• 1:02:46
  So. He has a butter face.
• 1:02:48
  Dude. He woke up in the morning like,
• 1:02:50
  Oh, no, what did I who did I let?
• 1:02:52
  No. Mateo was a handsome guy.
• 1:02:55
  That you see. That's funny.
• 1:02:56
  I actually, I didn't know if I could tell that story.
• 1:02:58
  That's why, like, I that the Dallas airport thing really
• 1:03:01
  happened to me. But I knew that Mateo actually
• 1:03:03
  did sleep on your couch. I was the one that picked him
• 1:03:05
  up. So he he, he DM me when I was
• 1:03:10
  getting in for my flight. He's like, OK, you got a rental
• 1:03:12
  car? Because we were, you know, we
• 1:03:12
  were there for Bitcoin Miami. And he goes, yeah, pick me up at
• 1:03:16
  this address. I'm like, Oh yeah, where'd you
• 1:03:17
  stay? Is it a hotel?
• 1:03:18
  He's like no I'm at Nico Nico from the Simply Bitcoins house
• 1:03:22
  And and I'm like wait like like like simply Bitcoin the show
• 1:03:26
  like how do you know him He's like I just didn't come through
• 1:03:28
  the app I'm like oh OK that the app's working like product
• 1:03:32
  market fit going on here So I mean how funny would it be like
• 1:03:36
  obviously you know Orange pill app and Facebook are are are
• 1:03:39
  different scales but like if Zuckerberg like DMD you through
• 1:03:42
  Facebook and it's like hey can I stay.
• 1:03:44
  Hey bro, can we chill? I don't know.
• 1:03:46
  I don't know. See, like, because we're
• 1:03:48
  bitcoiners, like, there's that. There's an element of trust
• 1:03:51
  there, right? If Mark Zuckerberg messaged me
• 1:03:56
  on, I don't know. I'd be like, I don't know, man,
• 1:03:59
  I don't accept. That chill into my house.
• 1:04:00
  All right, all right. Seriously, Brian, you did
• 1:04:06
  mention in the beginning of the show and before we went live
• 1:04:10
  that you are working on a new book.
• 1:04:12
  So let's talk about that. Yeah, So if the first book was
• 1:04:18
  Bitcoin evangelism, what is Evangelism?
• 1:04:20
  It's when somebody doesn't follow the, you know in in
• 1:04:26
  classical Christian evangelism as somebody that isn't a
• 1:04:29
  believer in Jesus, right? Not to make this like an overly
• 1:04:32
  religious point here, but Christianity is the most
• 1:04:35
  successful movement in the history of mankind.
• 1:04:37
  It it spread to every corner of the world.
• 1:04:39
  Like what was part of that success?
• 1:04:40
  Like if you want to take the religious spiritual component
• 1:04:42
  out of it, like from a pragmatic sense, it's because they
• 1:04:45
  effectively had a strategy to evangelize to the atheist and
• 1:04:49
  they effectively had a strategy to evangelize to the Pagan.
• 1:04:52
  Somebody that believed in a religion but some a religion
• 1:04:54
  different than theirs. That's no different than what we
• 1:04:57
  have in front of us right now. We have the no coiner that we
• 1:04:59
  need to evangelize an an orange pill and then we have the alt
• 1:05:02
  coiner that we need to convert the Pagan right.
• 1:05:04
  Like the the Crypto Pagan and and there's all sorts of
• 1:05:07
  arguments that are relevant to them.
• 1:05:10
  It's important like you said earlier Opti we need to be able
• 1:05:13
  to to dangle the the the the character dangle the worm in
• 1:05:17
  front of the fish that you want to catch.
• 1:05:19
  That's like the purpose of Bitcoin evangelism is is
• 1:05:22
  tailoring arguments for bitcoiners to be able to
• 1:05:25
  effectively evangelize. So yeah a no coin or an or an
• 1:05:28
  alt coiner could pick up the book and read it but it really
• 1:05:31
  is for like this audience. It's like for people who
• 1:05:33
  understand Bitcoin but and they've even told their friends
• 1:05:37
  about Bitcoin, but their friends just don't get it right.
• 1:05:40
  It's like, how do you make those arguments a little bit more
• 1:05:42
  effective? So like, case in point, if you
• 1:05:44
  have a, a, a a family member who's just like I could never
• 1:05:48
  trust my life savings to a computer algorithm, like that
• 1:05:51
  concept is just crazy to me. That was a lot of my family.
• 1:05:54
  That was what they came to. And I said, here, let me give
• 1:05:56
  you a simple example. You trust your life, which is
• 1:06:00
  far more valuable than your life savings to algorithms every
• 1:06:03
  single day. When was the last time that you
• 1:06:05
  drove through an intersection and when you had a green light
• 1:06:08
  that you questioned whether you were going to die or not?
• 1:06:10
  No, we just drive through intersections because we
• 1:06:12
  understand inherently that an algorithm it says if north and
• 1:06:16
  southbound have a green light east and westbound that that the
• 1:06:19
  traffic that would kill me has a red light.
• 1:06:22
  So you trust algorithms all the time.
• 1:06:23
  So it's always it's examples like that we need to piece it up
• 1:06:26
  and tee it up like that for people to understand that that
• 1:06:29
  this, this isn't really different than than ways that we
• 1:06:31
  operate in life. It's just we're dealing with
• 1:06:33
  money now and instead of our our our lives.
• 1:06:36
  And so once people understand that once we once the
• 1:06:39
  information warfare component as being one, then it's like what's
• 1:06:43
  the next step? And that's that's really what
• 1:06:45
  the next book is. It's it's called parallel.
• 1:06:47
  It's about the Bitcoin social layer.
• 1:06:49
  The Bitcoin social layer is happening now, right.
• 1:06:51
  It's happening on simply Bitcoin.
• 1:06:53
  It's happening in Bitcoin conferences.
• 1:06:54
  It's happening on Orange Palap. When people are meeting in
• 1:06:57
  person and all that kind of stuff it's it's the social
• 1:06:59
  movement that's behind Bitcoin. But but now that the social
• 1:07:02
  layer is forming like what do we do with that?
• 1:07:04
  Do we just meet up and talk about Bitcoin?
• 1:07:06
  No, it's about economic connections.
• 1:07:08
  Like, why do we know that the biggest thing ever to happen in
• 1:07:11
  Bitcoin is the parallel economy? Well, look at the title of the
• 1:07:14
  white paper. What is Bitcoin?
• 1:07:16
  It's peer-to-peer electronic cash.
• 1:07:18
  Like the point of Bitcoin wasn't to buy and hold it, right?
• 1:07:22
  That that's, that's we have horticulture.
• 1:07:24
  Now I want to start to talk about spending culture, right?
• 1:07:27
  Like what? What's the next logical step?
• 1:07:28
  If if we said earlier that this is a revolution that we don't
• 1:07:32
  have to fight with muskets, but if it's a digital revolution, an
• 1:07:37
  information revolution like arming your musket, loading your
• 1:07:40
  musket is buying Bitcoin. Spending Bitcoin is like
• 1:07:44
  shooting the musket, right? And that's the whole point of
• 1:07:47
  this book, is like, how do we get people to go from huddle
• 1:07:50
  culture to now circulating their, their, their Bitcoin in
• 1:07:54
  the parallel economy? Because every time you spend
• 1:07:56
  Bitcoin, you're literally voting against the Fiat system.
• 1:08:00
  It's money that's not being spent in the Fiat system.
• 1:08:03
  It's it's it's not having to burn the old system down.
• 1:08:06
  It's just depriving it of oxygen, like we're not doing
• 1:08:09
  anything violent to the old system other than depriving it
• 1:08:12
  of the fodder that it needs. And so that's the case of this
• 1:08:14
  new book and hopefully it's to motivate people to get on board
• 1:08:17
  with why the parallel economy matters.
• 1:08:20
  And if enough people, if we champion that cause and and
• 1:08:23
  there's enough economic connections where I can go
• 1:08:25
  around my community, I can buy my food, I can get my computer
• 1:08:28
  repaired. I can, I can have my plumber fix
• 1:08:30
  my plumbing at my house. If every good and service that I
• 1:08:33
  possibly need can be provided for in Bitcoin, then hyper
• 1:08:36
  bitcoinization has happened and that's the goal.
• 1:08:38
  That's that's the focus here. 100% I 100.
• 1:08:41
  Percent, hold on. I mean Brian, you're you're a
• 1:08:46
  man of many talents, bro. Like like guys this book 150,
• 1:08:51
  this book is is I'm just kidding.
• 1:08:53
  This is all in the house. OK.
• 1:08:55
  But this book is like it's this is not like how do you even do
• 1:09:00
  this This is like you know and it's not just it's not blank
• 1:09:03
  play just ladies and gentlemen like this is full of data and
• 1:09:06
  sources and graphics and all that stuff like like what
• 1:09:10
  inspired you. So this is your second book.
• 1:09:13
  I. I wait, wait, wait.
• 1:09:14
  Nico, you you can, Brian. You can tell Nico is a talking
• 1:09:17
  head because he's like words on paper.
• 1:09:20
  How do you do? This No, no, no.
• 1:09:22
  Like, I'm and I'm I'm like, I'm serious.
• 1:09:24
  Like, dude, like this is, this is like, how do you, how do you
• 1:09:28
  get inspired to write something like this thorough 'cause it is,
• 1:09:33
  you know, like this is impressive.
• 1:09:35
  Like, like, like really like, you see Lynn Alden's book like
• 1:09:39
  that. It's like a textbook, but like
• 1:09:41
  this is getting close. Man, this is pretty thick.
• 1:09:43
  So, like, what inspired you to write?
• 1:09:45
  That was it scaled down, too. That was me shaving it back.
• 1:09:49
  That was me shaving it back a little bit, too.
• 1:09:50
  So we we, in the editing process, we took some stuff out
• 1:09:53
  because we, you don't like at a certain point you don't want it
• 1:09:55
  to get lost. Lynn Alden's book, I haven't
• 1:09:57
  read it yet, but everybody that said they're like, yeah, man,
• 1:09:58
  it's hefty, but it's it's full, right?
• 1:10:00
  Like that. If a book's long and it's full,
• 1:10:02
  like, that's totally fine. But yeah, honestly, I've been in
• 1:10:07
  Bitcoin since 2013 and I've seen a few bull runs.
• 1:10:11
  And every time a bull run happens, your phone blows up
• 1:10:14
  with text messages from friends from high school DMS on, you
• 1:10:17
  know, whatever social media app it is with from distant
• 1:10:20
  relatives. And they're all asking the same
• 1:10:22
  questions. And so after a bull run and a
• 1:10:25
  half, I'm like, man, I'm answering the same things.
• 1:10:27
  And I hate trying to describe Bitcoin over text message.
• 1:10:30
  It takes freaking forever. So I just sat down and I
• 1:10:33
  honestly was just trying to write a 5 to 10 page PDF of the
• 1:10:37
  most common questions that I was getting.
• 1:10:38
  And I'm like, OK, anytime somebody asks me this, I'm just
• 1:10:41
  going to send them this PDF. And so I sat down and started
• 1:10:45
  writing and I I wrote the outline of the book.
• 1:10:46
  And I'm like wait there's a lot more than than 10 pages that I
• 1:10:49
  need to cover here because like you guys said like there's not
• 1:10:52
  one answer. Everybody's going to come in
• 1:10:54
  from a different angle And so the book is really meant to
• 1:10:56
  answer what's the gold bug saying what's the Fiat maxi
• 1:10:59
  saying what's the crypto guy saying and and all those things
• 1:11:02
  so like to in order to cover those yeah it's 300 plus pages
• 1:11:06
  to be able to hit every possible angle that that at least that I
• 1:11:09
  could think of but the the the the premise here is I'm an
• 1:11:12
  entrepreneur entrepreneur just like you guys.
• 1:11:15
  Like I'm willing to bet on myself do not ask permission to
• 1:11:19
  do anything. Like I mean like obviously, like
• 1:11:22
  don't go out and just like run anarchy.
• 1:11:23
  But like when it comes to building a business or writing a
• 1:11:26
  book or starting a podcast or whatever, you don't need to ask
• 1:11:28
  permission. Like we have such a Fiat mindset
• 1:11:31
  that were born into to where I want to start a business.
• 1:11:35
  Who do I need to ask to start a business?
• 1:11:38
  Like do I go down to to City Hall and ask them if I can start
• 1:11:41
  a business? No, just like freaking start a
• 1:11:42
  business. Go out and write a book, produce
• 1:11:44
  something beautiful because that's that's your right as a
• 1:11:48
  human to do that. I was talking to to Safedine,
• 1:11:51
  who by the way is also an orange pill app.
• 1:11:53
  I was talking to him on a Twitter space the other day and
• 1:11:55
  he said the same thing. We think of Safedine as this
• 1:11:58
  prolific author. But when he talks about before
• 1:12:01
  he came to Bitcoin, he had all the ideas for principles of
• 1:12:05
  economics and and and you know, the ideas that were behind
• 1:12:08
  Bitcoin, not Bitcoin specifically.
• 1:12:09
  He had all those ideas in his head for a decade.
• 1:12:12
  But it wasn't until he got on no sugar and meat and Bitcoin did
• 1:12:16
  it. It lowered his time reference to
• 1:12:18
  be able to say like, OK, the only other thing I need to do is
• 1:12:21
  just start this thing. Safedine had the mindset of like
• 1:12:24
  I, I, I kind of need permission to write a book.
• 1:12:26
  And then once he got into the low preference mindset of I
• 1:12:29
  don't need permission from anybody to write a book.
• 1:12:32
  Then you produce some of the greatest books of all time.
• 1:12:34
  And so my books like not on Safedine's level by any means.
• 1:12:38
  It's it's it's written for for somebody of like my intelligence
• 1:12:41
  level who you know just it's like plain speak.
• 1:12:43
  But at the same time like it's a beautiful thing that even
• 1:12:46
  somebody like Safety Dean is saying like, no, just go out and
• 1:12:49
  do it. Produce something that is going
• 1:12:51
  to further the conversation and and that's all I was trying to
• 1:12:54
  do. Yeah man this is and and and and
• 1:12:56
  you did just that like I mean like to say the least like it's
• 1:13:00
  this is ladies and gentlemen this is like this is proof of
• 1:13:03
  work like this is you're looking at proof of work man it's it's
• 1:13:07
  no small fee to I think Opti and I we OPTI and I think we have a
• 1:13:10
  bad making content every single day but that is is very very
• 1:13:14
  impressive dude and the fact that you're working on a second
• 1:13:16
  one and the fact that you're you know that you're you're creating
• 1:13:19
  you're building this app that is helping connect in my opinion
• 1:13:25
  the the maybe this the most powerful people in the
• 1:13:31
  wealthiest group of people in the world are gonna be
• 1:13:34
  bitcoiners in the next 10 years. In my opinion, next 1020 years
• 1:13:38
  without a shadow, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind and
• 1:13:42
  the fact that you're building an app to help facilitate connect
• 1:13:46
  those people is definitely a necessity.
• 1:13:49
  Bitcoiners are stronger together.
• 1:13:50
  You were talking about the circular economy, the necessity
• 1:13:53
  of it. I think you know, you saw a
• 1:13:55
  little glimpses of that with the Canadian truckers protest here
• 1:13:59
  in the US, right? It's an election year, you know,
• 1:14:01
  there's certain, you know if you, there's certain political
• 1:14:04
  beliefs that if you have, you'll get debanked, right?
• 1:14:06
  Like that's even happening here in the US.
• 1:14:09
  But if everyone's on a Bitcoin standard and you know they're on
• 1:14:12
  a circular economy, they're playing people peer-to-peer.
• 1:14:14
  Good luck with that. Debanking, right?
• 1:14:17
  But it's only if you know those people, right?
• 1:14:19
  There could be a bitcoiner in your building and you don't
• 1:14:21
  know. You don't, you don't know he's
• 1:14:22
  there, right? So it's all about building those
• 1:14:25
  connections, Opti. I mean, I shouts out to Brian.
• 1:14:29
  You know, I just love having him on and getting his perspectives.
• 1:14:32
  And you know, that's you can just tell that he believes in
• 1:14:38
  what we believe in. The idea of like, proof of work
• 1:14:40
  is a lifestyle and this is what it's all about.
• 1:14:42
  And this is what we try to push on our show as much as possible.
• 1:14:45
  Just go out there and create and just, hey, if you're just a
• 1:14:49
  chair maker, make the best chair as possible.
• 1:14:51
  If you can write, write. If you make content, if you're
• 1:14:54
  talking heads like Nico and I do the talking heads like, well,
• 1:14:57
  just do what you do and then try to sell it for Bitcoin.
• 1:15:02
  And if it's good enough, the market will respond.
• 1:15:04
  And Mike shouts out to the new merchant features that you guys
• 1:15:06
  have an orange pill at. Because I really do think that
• 1:15:09
  that's furthering the Bitcoin revolution. 100%.
• 1:15:13
  Yeah. And and and one thing too, we
• 1:15:15
  had a few online Bitcoin businesses reach out and like,
• 1:15:18
  hey, we kind of feel a little, you know, short end of the stick
• 1:15:20
  like you're not promoting online Bitcoin businesses, which is a
• 1:15:22
  huge part of the economy. I I think that that it's like,
• 1:15:26
  don't fret because what is something that I was talking to
• 1:15:29
  the owner of Panties for Bitcoin, for example, the other
• 1:15:31
  day and he's like, oh, you don't have a feature for us.
• 1:15:33
  I'm like, well, there's a way for you to connect through your
• 1:15:35
  personal profile and you can, you know, you can interact with
• 1:15:37
  bitcoiners that way. But here the the the essence of
• 1:15:40
  what's happening here is what do you need if you're an online
• 1:15:43
  only business and you want to be in front of people, especially
• 1:15:46
  if you have something like underwear that people like need
• 1:15:48
  to touch and feel to see if it's good quality, you need
• 1:15:51
  distribution. Well, what is orange Fill out
• 1:15:53
  merchant section. It's a list of businesses that
• 1:15:57
  will sell Bitcoin or products for Bitcoin.
• 1:15:59
  So if you're selling something like Bitcoin panties, or you're
• 1:16:01
  selling BTC pens or trading cards or any of that kind of
• 1:16:04
  stuff, you now have a distribution network of people
• 1:16:07
  who are like minded that you can reach out to.
• 1:16:10
  And hopefully if it works out, if you can, if you can strike up
• 1:16:12
  a deal with those companies, you can have your physical products
• 1:16:15
  in their physical store. Again furthering the synergy of
• 1:16:18
  the Bitcoin social layer A. 100%, 100%, man.
• 1:16:22
  Well, this is really cool. And I wanna ask you something,
• 1:16:26
  Brian, which maybe it's obvious to you cuz you're building the
• 1:16:30
  app, but how do you? One of the things that happens
• 1:16:34
  is you build this network and you build whatever and then the
• 1:16:38
  alt coiners start to kind of flood in and they start to
• 1:16:41
  market to people and you know, and it gets kind of like
• 1:16:44
  annoying and whatever. How do you, how do you guys
• 1:16:47
  prevent that spam in the Orange Pill app?
• 1:16:49
  How do you guys make it like a sure thing that you're actually
• 1:16:53
  talking to other bit corners? That's a great question.
• 1:16:57
  I appreciate you asking that. So anti spam is like one of the
• 1:17:01
  essences of of Bitcoin. I can't, don't know if you can
• 1:17:04
  say essences. I think essence is like a
• 1:17:05
  singular thing. But but but Mateo, I I can brag
• 1:17:09
  on this because I'm not the brilliant mind that that that
• 1:17:12
  came up with this idea. If anything it's a cool story.
• 1:17:15
  Real quick tangent. I signed up for Orange Pill app
• 1:17:18
  at Pacific Bitcoin two years ago.
• 1:17:20
  Like, I got the pitch from Mateo just as a dude that walked up to
• 1:17:23
  his booth right after he'd launched the app and he told me
• 1:17:26
  about it. So.
• 1:17:26
  So I started working. I wasn't the guy that came up
• 1:17:28
  with the idea, but this is the first ever social network that
• 1:17:32
  starts with the paywall. And I think at first people are
• 1:17:34
  like, oh, you should have like a free membership and then you
• 1:17:36
  know, like a, you know, like a freemium model or something like
• 1:17:38
  that. No, the paywall, it's not big.
• 1:17:40
  It's 3 bucks a month and or you can pay him, you know, sats and
• 1:17:42
  you can pay for a lifetime membership if you want.
• 1:17:44
  That's fine too, but the paywall is the feature that limits spam.
• 1:17:50
  There's no bots, spam or scammers or anything like that.
• 1:17:53
  And if if somebody is willing to pay to spam a few messages, then
• 1:17:57
  guess what? They've just paid in Bitcoin to
• 1:17:58
  spam a few messages. And then they get they get
• 1:18:01
  banned by the community. No, no bitcoins out in a in a
• 1:18:04
  network full of bitcoiners, all coiners spam grifters.
• 1:18:07
  Those types of people are reported immediately because
• 1:18:10
  nobody in that community wants it.
• 1:18:11
  So even if they do pay for it they're only it's it's it's like
• 1:18:15
  a denial of service attack on Bitcoin.
• 1:18:17
  Like if a nation state tried to do a a DDoS attack on Bitcoin
• 1:18:21
  they would pay billions of dollars in order to deny a block
• 1:18:24
  for 10 minutes and then the bitcoiners would work around
• 1:18:27
  that And it's like thank you for your billion dollars of of of
• 1:18:30
  infrastructure that you provided for Bitcoin mining and and you
• 1:18:33
  know contribution to securing the network.
• 1:18:35
  Thank you. We're moving on without you it's
• 1:18:37
  that same kind of thing. Thank you for spending your
• 1:18:39
  you're $3 in the parallel Bitcoin economy because you paid
• 1:18:42
  in SAT. Now we're going to move on
• 1:18:44
  without you and you're banned from your banned from from from
• 1:18:47
  the network. So yeah, there's no, there's no
• 1:18:49
  alt coiners, there's no grifters.
• 1:18:51
  There's no spam or anything like that.
• 1:18:52
  It is a very, very high signal community and that's something
• 1:18:56
  that that we that we highly protect because we think that
• 1:18:58
  that's an instrumental feature of the app.
• 1:19:01
  And so yeah, you don't have to worry about Crypto Bros or
• 1:19:03
  anything like that on there. And I'll say that I think that's
• 1:19:06
  one of the things that we're getting a lot of right now.
• 1:19:08
  Like me as an individual in the Bitcoin space, I got two invites
• 1:19:12
  this this week, 1 from a a hedge fund in in Kansas City to go
• 1:19:17
  speak at one of their conferences because they want
• 1:19:19
  bitcoiners to talk to their general investors.
• 1:19:21
  So I mean as far as adoption, how rad is that?
• 1:19:24
  But then on the crypto side of it, so they wanted to they
• 1:19:26
  wanted to learn more about Bitcoin, mainstream investment
• 1:19:29
  hedge fund want to learn more about Bitcoin.
• 1:19:31
  And then I got a a conference call with what turned out to be
• 1:19:34
  like a web three company and they asked us if we wanted to
• 1:19:37
  start an ICO token and then do a big Twitter spaces to push it.
• 1:19:41
  So the forces between Bitcoin and crypto are ramping up like
• 1:19:45
  you've never seen before. So finding an app that is high
• 1:19:48
  signal, it's like a critical time to do that and I think that
• 1:19:51
  Orange Pill app is a a huge key for.
• 1:19:53
  Something. Hell yeah, I completely agree
• 1:19:55
  guys. Definitely check it out.
• 1:19:57
  Check out the Orange Pill app. Check out Bitcoin Evangelism.
• 1:20:00
  There's a link in the video description.
• 1:20:02
  And Brian, when is your new, you said your new book is dropping
• 1:20:06
  in about a month or so, right? Man, this.
• 1:20:09
  So by the grace of God, man, I have been blessed with Knut's
• 1:20:14
  fan home is writing a chapter of it.
• 1:20:15
  Daniel Prince is writing a chapter.
• 1:20:17
  It's really impressive. Yeah, I'm so flippin stoked on
• 1:20:20
  that. So the book was going to be
• 1:20:23
  launched. We were going to try and have it
• 1:20:24
  ready for the halving. But then Bitcoin Atlantis heard
• 1:20:27
  about it. They they loved the idea of the
• 1:20:29
  parallel economy idea. So they asked if I would launch
• 1:20:31
  at their conference next month. So it got moved up by a month.
• 1:20:33
  We were already crushing this book to get it done by by the
• 1:20:37
  halving. So I outside of your show and
• 1:20:39
  maybe like one or two other shows, I'm doing nothing but
• 1:20:42
  writing. We have most of the book's being
• 1:20:44
  edited right now. The final bits of the book are
• 1:20:46
  being put together, but it is gonna be launched at Bitcoin
• 1:20:48
  Atlantis in about a month from now, so I'm really excited.
• 1:20:52
  Well, I I am, I am, I am scheduled to go.
• 1:20:56
  But my my child might be born around that time.
• 1:21:01
  So I might have to not go. So yeah, but I am scheduled.
• 1:21:07
  I am scheduled to go. So if if I see if I will see you
• 1:21:11
  there. I'd love to get a signed copy.
• 1:21:13
  And when I was showing this off, I just realized that you signed
• 1:21:17
  this for me. So I appreciate that man.
• 1:21:19
  Thank you dude. Gotcha, man.
• 1:21:21
  Thank you man that. Was that was did?
• 1:21:22
  You get your Did you get your little sats blocks?
• 1:21:24
  I did and I stacked. Them in the living room, bro,
• 1:21:27
  and everything. Yeah, dude, it was great.
• 1:21:28
  It was, it was, it was great. Thank you so much for sending
• 1:21:30
  that over. Well guys, that was simply
• 1:21:33
  Bitcoin Live. I hope everyone enjoyed the
• 1:21:35
  show. I wanna give a very special
• 1:21:37
  shout out to our guest Brian De Mint.
• 1:21:39
  Absolutely, bro. You're proof of working it, man.
• 1:21:43
  Dropping books, building amazing apps.
• 1:21:45
  Bro, it's an honor to have you on the show.
• 1:21:47
  Thank you so much for joining us.
• 1:21:50
  My pleasure guys. I love you all and thank you
• 1:21:52
  very much. Appreciate it.
• 1:21:53
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• 1:21:54
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• 1:22:12
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• 1:22:15
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• 1:22:18
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• 1:22:21
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• 1:22:24
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• 1:22:26
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• 1:22:29
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• 1:22:31
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• 1:22:34
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• 1:22:37
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• 1:22:41
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• 1:22:42
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• 1:22:46
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