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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, September 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, sept You have reached Jaguar's Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours broke you by Ashley Home Store. And
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Speaker 1: now a guy who doesn't mind being called a rebel,
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Speaker 1: well except maybe this week. J P. Shadrick. Okay, welcome in. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Ashley Holmes Store on this Thursday,
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Speaker 1: not just any Thursday, Patriots Thursday. J P. Shadrick, Jeff
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Speaker 1: Loghman here in Jacksonville. Tony Boselli with us from the
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Speaker 1: great City of Cincinnati, Ohio. Thursday Night football tonight, and
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Speaker 1: he'll have the call for Westwood One. We'll get out
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Speaker 1: to Tony coming up shortly. I lost to get to tonight.
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Speaker 1: We'll break down the Patriots Jaguar's matchup, will make some
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Speaker 1: picks for this week. We'll see who dominated last week
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Speaker 1: might have been not you, not you logs quit pointing
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Speaker 1: at yourself. That did not didn't win you, sir, you
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Speaker 1: did not. We'll get to that coming up. That's coming
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Speaker 1: up a little later. Had to be pretty close though.
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Speaker 1: It was very closet back all three of us all
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Speaker 1: close together. So and then second hour tonight, the Doug
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Speaker 1: Morones Show and the Jaguars Radio network starts at five
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Speaker 1: o'clock today. That'll follow this program. Yeah, you know we'll
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Speaker 1: hear from the head coach and uh and and Doug
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Speaker 1: is h he's like kind of like Downer Debbie a
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Speaker 1: little bit today. You know you listened to him a
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Speaker 1: little bit, you know press conference. I mean totally totally him.
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Speaker 1: I mean he is he literally and for those that
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Speaker 1: are like, what are you talking about? Downer Debbie is
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Speaker 1: like a famous character from Debbie Downer, but Debbie Downer
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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live and uh and he is totally like
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Speaker 1: that today. Did you see his There was an interaction
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Speaker 1: with the New England media and you know, each head
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Speaker 1: coach has a conference called the opposing team's media each week.
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Speaker 1: He said pretty inflammatory. Somebody asked him, you know, so
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl last year when the Patriot just
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Speaker 1: did this this, and he's like, I don't I haven't
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Speaker 1: watched the super Bowl. He's like, what do you mean
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Speaker 1: you haven't watched the Super Bowl? I just I never
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Speaker 1: watched the Super Bowl. I I haven't watched Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: like twenty five years. Because he's always mad. So we'll
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Speaker 1: ask Doug about that coming up in the second hour.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that. I don't. I don't think I
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Speaker 1: do know. It's good stuff, it's good fun. I don't. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it makes for good conversation. But I mean, if you're
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Speaker 1: a pure coaching and you're living, you know, the light
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Speaker 1: that he's living, which is I mean, his life is football,
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Speaker 1: why would you not watch the greatest game that there is,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's that's the game of all games,
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Speaker 1: his super Bowl, Tony Baselli with us. No, not yet,
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Speaker 1: We'll get to Tony in Cincinnati's good coming up? Sure,
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Speaker 1: this this show just improved a little bit. Uh well,
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Speaker 1: hey better since he's not on series history all Patriots
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Speaker 1: pretty much between the Jaguars and the Patriots, of course,
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Speaker 1: only one win in one in five postseason meetings for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars against the Patriots. The Jags have never beaten
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Speaker 1: the Patriots in the regular season and there oh and
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Speaker 1: eight versus Belichick Brady since and that's that's the important number,
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Speaker 1: you know, is that Brady and Belichick have not lost
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Speaker 1: to the Jaguars. And it's it's not gonna be easier.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Patriot great greatness is not is
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Speaker 1: not underspoken, uh on any particular week. I mean, they
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Speaker 1: are truly a great football team. There are a great organization,
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Speaker 1: and they have been able to achieve greatness and maybe
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Speaker 1: the hardest era in all of Pro profitball's history. I
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Speaker 1: mean the in today's day and age of free agency
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Speaker 1: and salary cap it doesn't get any more difficult. But
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Speaker 1: they've had two constants that have you know, that have
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Speaker 1: given them great success. And that's the coach, which is Belichick,
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Speaker 1: who arguably has the best mind in football and Tom Brady,
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Speaker 1: who I'd love to have anybody argue with me that
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Speaker 1: there's somebody that's better than him in the history of
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Speaker 1: the game, because I mean we're talking you're talking about
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Speaker 1: nineteen years, eight super Bowl appearances. M v P multiple times,
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Speaker 1: has five Championship rings, you know, their head coach, and
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has what does he have like eight eight rings?
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Speaker 1: Is that right? He's got five I'm talking about because
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Speaker 1: he had he had two, uh two or three as
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Speaker 1: assistant with the with the New York Giants, right right,
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Speaker 1: I wrote it down. So he's got seven, yes, right,
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Speaker 1: seven seven super Bowl wins. Five as a head coach.
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Speaker 1: He's been in eleven Super Bowl appearances overall, eight with
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I mean that that's incredible, and it would
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Speaker 1: be hard to have an argument that he is not
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Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time in professional football. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to try to argue in other sports because
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Speaker 1: I just don't know enough about some of the other sports.
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Speaker 1: In professional football, they're only two or three other guys
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Speaker 1: that to even be in the same conversation. And I
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Speaker 1: say that because you know, just like I've talked about,
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Speaker 1: you know, the history of the Patriots and how their
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Speaker 1: greatness is because you know, they've been in in an
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Speaker 1: era of salary captain free agency. Look, he's had to
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Speaker 1: coach in that, and he is the general manager. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he is everything. And you could argue that, you know,
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, the general manager hasn't done a very good
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Speaker 1: job over the last number of years. But they're always there.
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Speaker 1: Well they are because and they are because Tom Brady,
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Speaker 1: and they are because of some of the coaching decisions
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Speaker 1: that he that he has. But he's been able to
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Speaker 1: make those decisions because, in my opinion, because he has
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Speaker 1: the greatest of all time and Tom Brady and never
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Speaker 1: twelve back there. You know, it makes up for a
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Speaker 1: lot of things you might do wrong. You know, and
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Speaker 1: JP just to give people an idea what what makes
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Speaker 1: him great? I mean even this week, you know, watching
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans film, you know, the same thing show up.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's still got great arm strength. He can
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Speaker 1: throw the deep out, which is amazing for a guy
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Speaker 1: who's forty one and no shot, no signs of weakness
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Speaker 1: in the arm strength whatsoever, which kind of reminds me
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Speaker 1: a little bit of any Testaverdy who played at that
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Speaker 1: age and and also didn't really lose anything physically from
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Speaker 1: the arm strength standpoint. But you know, I mean, look, quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: typically the arm starts to go. I mean, heck, you
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Speaker 1: think about Joe Montana, who didn't have a particularly strong
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Speaker 1: arm even when he was in his prime, but at
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Speaker 1: the end of his career when he was with Kansas City,
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Speaker 1: you know, he had to have great anticipation to make
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Speaker 1: some of those deeper throws. Tom Brady can still make
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Speaker 1: the decision like he's always made it because his arm
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Speaker 1: strength is still really good, which is impressive and a
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Speaker 1: credit to him and his preparation. And I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say credit to his trainers, because then that brings
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Speaker 1: up with a whole other conversation but I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: done a tremendous job and uh and he's the reason
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Speaker 1: why they've been so successful. And uh and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: at some point that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, who
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Speaker 1: really don't seem to appreciate one another, you know, from afar,
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Speaker 1: I mean kind of looking at it from afar, but
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Speaker 1: I think at some point they were really learned to
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Speaker 1: love and appreciate what the other has done for them both.
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Speaker 1: We'll break down the matchup for the Jaguars defense against
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Speaker 1: Brady and Gronk and all that coming up a little
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Speaker 1: bit later tonight in Jaguars Happy Hour. But let's go back.
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Speaker 1: Let's rewind to January. We must, because that's the storyline
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Speaker 1: of this football game, even though you probably won't hear
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Speaker 1: that in the locker room. The fourth quarter of the
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Speaker 1: a f C Championship game back in January, here's how
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Speaker 1: how it all went down. Of course, they had the
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Speaker 1: lead second to the fourth quarter. Miles Jack wasn't down,
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Speaker 1: The Jags couldn't move the ball on the fourth quarter
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Speaker 1: to offensive first downs. The third and eight team play
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Speaker 1: Brady to Amundola twice for touchdowns. The Rady kneel down.
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Speaker 1: There was a bad pun in there. I returned, and
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Speaker 1: it's just I I still have my game note. You've
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Speaker 1: got it right here in your hand. Yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: I didn't throw him away, which you know typically you know,
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, I throw everything away.
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Speaker 1: But I kept these notes and uh. But if you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just a reminder how close they were, you know well,
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Speaker 1: and also a reminder of is that, you know, if
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Speaker 1: you took care of what you needed to do, then
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Speaker 1: you win the ball game. Because I know that. You know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people say, well, Miles Jack wasn't down.
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Speaker 1: The officials, you know, played a part, you know, interference
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Speaker 1: on a j boy okay, which was certainly a questionable call.
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack wasn't down, et cetera. But still, you look
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Speaker 1: when when you beat the champions, because that in my mind,
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Speaker 1: that's what they are. I mean, the Patriots are. They're
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Speaker 1: the champions, you know, no matter how you look at it,
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Speaker 1: and you gotta beat them. I mean, you can't kind
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Speaker 1: of beat them, and you can't kind of eke one out.
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Speaker 1: You gotta beat them, you know, and this football team
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Speaker 1: had every opportunity to do that. I mean, twenty to
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Speaker 1: ten lead, okay, and then Myles Jack makes that recovery. Okay,
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Speaker 1: well you the whistle gets blown dead, But what do
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Speaker 1: you do with the ball as an offense when it
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Speaker 1: was blown dead? Three? And ow? I mean if that's
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Speaker 1: not if they get two first down there and kill
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Speaker 1: some clock, I mean, there you go, I mean, kill
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Speaker 1: some clock. How about get some points, you know, the
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Speaker 1: momentum of its turnover or takeaway, do something with it.
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Speaker 1: The next offensive possession that they get, they get twenty
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Speaker 1: two yards and any punnet and when they pun it
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, a few fuge series
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Speaker 1: later on the third possession, you have a punty twenty
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Speaker 1: yard returned by Danny Ammondola. You know. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think the one thing that can be kind of
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Speaker 1: taken away from that a f C Championship games that
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Speaker 1: all facets of the football team fell short of what
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Speaker 1: they needed to do to get the win, and special teams,
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Speaker 1: defense and off and they made a point for the
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Speaker 1: organization did after that game to make some corrections in
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Speaker 1: each of those areas to make sure that that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing that makes sure they could finish the football game.
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Speaker 1: And look, it's a great motivator going into the next year,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and it should be great motivation, you
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Speaker 1: know for this game this week, you know the locker room.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this, JP, if you win this week,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't erase the memory of if you're losing in
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Speaker 1: the FC Championship, you still lost that game, That's right.
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Speaker 1: You know, were a hell of a lot bigger on
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Speaker 1: the last meeting. Then it's gonna be in this meeting.
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Speaker 1: And you still got to play a lot of football
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Speaker 1: after this meeting. You know, is last year that that
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Speaker 1: was all or nothing. Now I will say you go
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Speaker 1: in the in the in the stands on Sunday. The
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Speaker 1: fans want revenge, they want they want to exercise those demons.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be quite a scene. I really think that
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Speaker 1: this is, uh, I mean this, This will be the
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Speaker 1: greatest regular season atmosphere ever in Jacksonville Jaguar's history. This Sunday.
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Speaker 1: And you were here in the early days, the first
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Speaker 1: games here and everything. I think I think that this
10:26
Speaker 1: Sunday will will be it, you know, because and look,
10:29
Speaker 1: and I know there's been a lot of other big games.
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Speaker 1: You know. When I'm but I'm saying disregard to playoffs,
10:36
Speaker 1: you don't think the playoffs is a different. I mean
10:39
Speaker 1: it may approach the playoffs. I mean maybe it does,
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Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. I don't know that, but I just
10:43
Speaker 1: know that from from a regular season game standpoint, I
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Speaker 1: think the atmosphere will be will be tremendous. I think
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Speaker 1: the four kick, I think is what it is, will
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Speaker 1: allow people to get you know, a good amount of
10:56
Speaker 1: tailgating in, get themselves primed and ready to think for
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Speaker 1: a good football game. The only disappointing thing is is
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Speaker 1: that that I can't stay out in the parking lot
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Speaker 1: and have a couple of beers with everybody. I'd love
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Speaker 1: to be able to stay out there and tail gate
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Speaker 1: a little bit, go after and celebrate. Oh man, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I'm all for that. And trust me, that's happened many times. Now.
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Speaker 1: Let's not get ahead of ourselves though. You getta still
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Speaker 1: gonna play the football game of course, before we start celebrating. Here.
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Speaker 1: And the big story this week hamstring injury. Leondard Leonard
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Speaker 1: for that is on the injury report. He's been off
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Speaker 1: to the side. He spoke of the media today and
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Speaker 1: he's back working on it this week. Running uh today,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It feels good so it's
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Speaker 1: a progress keep going on, you know, you know what
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Speaker 1: they're doing treatment things like that. Just uh saying we'll
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Speaker 1: see would be a big game time decision, game time decision,
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Speaker 1: according to Leonard for Nett, there you know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: the thing we've been looking at all week long. They
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Speaker 1: felt a little different when he wasn't out there on
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Speaker 1: Sunday as an offense, Hackett says that, I mean it.
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's much harder to overcome
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Speaker 1: the loss of Leonard four net in a game as
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Speaker 1: opposed to the next game or whatever, like in last
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Speaker 1: year when that you didn't have them, because you can
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Speaker 1: afford you can formulate a game plan without him and
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Speaker 1: prepare to not have him. Whereas your game plan is
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's based around him, you know,
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Speaker 1: or that it was based around him, you know, to
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Speaker 1: go up against the New York Giants. But I mean typically, look,
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Speaker 1: you're there was a coordinator. You're you're saying, hey, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, this play here is good for for Net,
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Speaker 1: This play here is good for this guy. It's good
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Speaker 1: for that guy. That that guy is not available, all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it doesn't feel as good as a coordinator,
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Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Hackett had a really excellent point on that
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Speaker 1: this afternoon in fact, after practice. So I think that
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Speaker 1: you're always kind of in the back of your mind
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Speaker 1: having Hey, if somebody goes down, how you're gonna adjust,
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Speaker 1: how you're gonna make moves. I think last week when
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Speaker 1: that happened, you know, we had to make some adjustments,
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Speaker 1: and only knowing that you got two running backs. You've
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Speaker 1: got to have that mindset of what you're gonna do
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Speaker 1: different and going in this game is the same thing.
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Speaker 1: It's whoever's gonna be up, we want to get him rolling. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little more time would help for let me ask
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Speaker 1: you this, JP, what's the Jaguars record when they didn't
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Speaker 1: have Leonard Fournett? Well they didn't lose that, right, Okay?
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Speaker 1: So uh, I mean, why would anybody or should anybody
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Speaker 1: be concerned if Leonard Fournett is not available? I mean
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Speaker 1: it's this football team is not about Leonard Fournette. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this football team is a good football team with her
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Speaker 1: without Leonard Fournett, you know. So I don't worry about
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Speaker 1: it whatsoever. I think t J. Yelton has done a
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Speaker 1: great job in the past of stepping up and having
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Speaker 1: a great game. And also Corey Grants had moments where
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Speaker 1: he's been fantastic when it's been you know, he's been
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Speaker 1: asked to be the bell cow. Even go back to
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Speaker 1: his performance against Indianapolis Colts a couple of years ago
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Speaker 1: when he had to be the man, he was great.
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Speaker 1: You know. So I don't expect anything less, and I
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Speaker 1: don't think that it changes the outcome of this game
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Speaker 1: one iota this week. Really, I don't. It would be
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Speaker 1: nice to have. I mean, you want, you want to
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Speaker 1: have everybody and you know, and and I would love
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Speaker 1: to to have a little some more advanced football minds
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Speaker 1: than mine. And from when I say that, like more
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Speaker 1: from a like an analytic standpoint, like a Tony Connor
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Speaker 1: or something. Well, yeah, Eton's got an incredibly bright mind,
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Speaker 1: But I mean from an analytics standpoint, you know, comparing
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Speaker 1: you know, Jaguars game plan in the play calling with
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Speaker 1: Leonard four Nett versus not having the Leonard four net.
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Speaker 1: You know, what's what's the percentage of run past calls
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Speaker 1: on first and ten? You know, how much more aggressive
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Speaker 1: are they when they don't have Leonard four Neett versus
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Speaker 1: having Leonard for Nett because I think sometimes when you
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Speaker 1: have a Leonard Fournett kind of it gets you in
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Speaker 1: a comfort zone I think as an offensive coordinator, because
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Speaker 1: you want to lean just hand it off and feed
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Speaker 1: you know what is you know we you consider maybe
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Speaker 1: a great running back where you don't have them, it
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Speaker 1: makes you kind of go, okay, well maybe we need
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Speaker 1: to do some different things. And a lot of those
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Speaker 1: different things start with the quarterback, Blake Bortals, who last
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Speaker 1: week had the early throw too Keelan Cole down the field.
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Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of other down the field things
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Speaker 1: last week, as you said, I mean, here's the thing
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Speaker 1: JP did. Did we see a lot of that in
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Speaker 1: the preseason? No, you know so, but you know this
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Speaker 1: is feels like the week though, like because going up
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Speaker 1: to your point that you just made, if Leonard for
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Speaker 1: That's not there, let's let's find something else we can
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Speaker 1: do well, and that's pushed the ball down. Well, you
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Speaker 1: still need to be who you are, which you know
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Speaker 1: you're you're running football team. And until you know, I
15:47
Speaker 1: think Blake is at his best when you have you know,
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Speaker 1: the power football think. I don't want to say a
15:51
Speaker 1: power football thing but when you have a running game
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Speaker 1: that establishes itself, it makes Blake better. Look, it makes
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Speaker 1: all quarterbacks better. And so if if you're able to
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Speaker 1: to get the running game going, however you do that,
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Speaker 1: you know, whether it be with t J. Yelden or
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Speaker 1: Corey Grant. Because I don't believe that Leonard Fournett is
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Speaker 1: gonna play this week, and I don't have any inside information. Look,
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Speaker 1: I just know one thing. Leonard Fournett's a running back.
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Speaker 1: Running backs run and last time I checked, you need
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Speaker 1: a hamstring to run well, okay, and a healthy one
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Speaker 1: at that. And so I just I just don't see
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Speaker 1: another same game time we saw Leonard. You know, talk
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Speaker 1: about game time decision and all that, But if if
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Speaker 1: you don't finish a game okay one week, and then
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Speaker 1: you play the next week, I think then you kind
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Speaker 1: of go back and say, well, why why didn't you
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Speaker 1: finish the game? Okay? So if it's that bad, right,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so I just don't see.
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Speaker 1: I don't Leonard four Nets is a tough guy. He
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Speaker 1: ain't coming out of that game in New York, okay,
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Speaker 1: us unless his hamstring is bothering him at a pretty
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Speaker 1: good level, and a pretty good level means that it's
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Speaker 1: not gonna be good enough to play the next week,
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Speaker 1: you know, for a couple of days of rest. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's that's the thing about hamstring. You don't want to
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Speaker 1: you don't want to mess him up. And fortunately I
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Speaker 1: never had a hamstring while I played. I had one
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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, and it's not fun.
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Speaker 1: But but I mean, I couldn't imagine even trying to
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Speaker 1: like jaw after a hamstring. I mean, it's tough. I
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Speaker 1: just don't think he's gonna play. We'll come back. Tony
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Speaker 1: Boselli will join us when we return. The Jags and
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Speaker 1: the Patriots coming up, will flip the script a little
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Speaker 1: bit here and get the defensive matchup for the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: against the Patriots offense Tom Brady Gronk, and we'll hear
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Speaker 1: from Jale Ramsey when we come back as well. Check
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Speaker 1: lot of a time because of the NFL league and
22:02
Speaker 1: post suspension on Dante Fowler, and he did a great job.
22:07
Speaker 1: You know, first of all, he's a special team's captain.
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Speaker 1: kudos for him because you know he still has to
22:15
Speaker 1: fulfill those special teams obligations, you know, and he had
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Speaker 1: a few of the reps kind of cut back and
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Speaker 1: taken away from them because of the amount of snaps
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Speaker 1: that he had to play on defense. But the snaps
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Speaker 1: that he played on defense now were quality snaps. He
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Speaker 1: got a sack, he had a tackle on the fourth
22:30
Speaker 1: and two that ended a giant drive. Uh, numerous other
22:34
Speaker 1: players that he was involved in got pressure and so,
22:37
Speaker 1: uh he's a good football player. And Uh. The more
22:41
Speaker 1: players that you have like him that can fill a
22:43
Speaker 1: role on special teams and still provide you quality snaps
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Speaker 1: on offense or defense, those guys have significant value to
22:50
Speaker 1: a roster, but more you can do. Tony Boselli with us.
22:53
Speaker 1: Tony are you there? I am here? Can you hear me?
22:56
Speaker 1: We hear you. Yes, you were in Cincinnati. No, Tony's gone,
23:03
Speaker 1: Tony's out of here. Uh, we'll get back with Tony.
23:06
Speaker 1: Whendn't we get back to Tony whatever? Whatever? Jalen Ramsey there,
23:10
Speaker 1: this is the fun part, right. I Mean he talks
23:13
Speaker 1: about Grenkowski and the ESPN the magazine article saying Rocks
23:16
Speaker 1: not as great as I think. I think he said
23:18
Speaker 1: he was average or something like. He said, He's not
23:21
Speaker 1: as great as everybody says. That's what he said. Now
23:23
Speaker 1: today he said, Hey, maybe you'll have to line up.
23:25
Speaker 1: He's not sure that. Hey, you know, I'm I fear
23:27
Speaker 1: no man. That's a great quote from It, isn't it. Uh?
23:33
Speaker 1: You know, watching Jellings press conference today, it kind of
23:36
Speaker 1: took a little bit to kind of get him warmed
23:38
Speaker 1: up to where he actually wanted to talk, you know,
23:40
Speaker 1: because uh, I don't remember who was maybe Mark Long
23:44
Speaker 1: was talking to him about acting or something like it
23:47
Speaker 1: was that the bit on ESPN pregame last Yeah, so
23:50
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of. I mean, once they kind
23:52
Speaker 1: of got through that, then Jellen opened up a little
23:54
Speaker 1: bit and he had to comment there about he fears
23:56
Speaker 1: no man and what she shouldn't. I mean, he doesn't.
24:00
Speaker 1: And Gronkowski is an interesting matchup because you know, last year,
24:03
Speaker 1: going in the a f C Championship game, I thought
24:06
Speaker 1: for sure that we may see jailing on him because
24:09
Speaker 1: in certain personnel groupings that made sense to be you
24:12
Speaker 1: know that you could do it. But I didn't see it.
24:15
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, So I don't expect to see
24:17
Speaker 1: it this week if if if we do, I will
24:20
Speaker 1: be shocked. Now, what would it take for him to
24:23
Speaker 1: cover rond? You can't do it when he's on the
24:25
Speaker 1: end of the line. You have to get him when
24:27
Speaker 1: he's out. Well, it's it's gotta be. It's gotta be,
24:29
Speaker 1: you know, when you're in a in a Nickel type
24:31
Speaker 1: of situation and you're matching up. You know, and and
24:33
Speaker 1: here's the reason why that it could still work. You know,
24:36
Speaker 1: the Patriots don't have wide receivers that are feared. I
24:41
Speaker 1: mean last year, you know Edelman, if you put all
24:45
Speaker 1: those guys on the field at the same time, you'd
24:47
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we need to have our best guy
24:49
Speaker 1: on Edelman or maybe Amadola. Well, I mean, some of
24:52
Speaker 1: those guys aren't playing, aren't even with the team anymore
24:54
Speaker 1: this year, so you'd have to have somebody cover Donte
24:57
Speaker 1: mont Crieff and and somebody or not Dante mik Brief
25:00
Speaker 1: get confused because Philip Dorset, okay, and then uh, Chris Hogan,
25:07
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean, when you feel confident in
25:10
Speaker 1: any of the other cornerbacks covering those two guys and
25:12
Speaker 1: then putting jail in on Gron, I would. I would,
25:15
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's gonna happen or not,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know, just because we didn't see it in the
25:19
Speaker 1: FC title game. Tony Vaselli is with us now, can
25:23
Speaker 1: you hear us? Tony? Hello, guys, you're in Cincinnati, right
25:29
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a little frustrated. We started testing this
25:32
Speaker 1: system at three o'clock today and obviously we didn't do
25:35
Speaker 1: a very good job. That's okay. Where you're with us
25:37
Speaker 1: now and we're knee deep in this Jaguars Patriots matchup.
25:41
Speaker 1: The Jaguars defense. I can hear you, guys. I was
25:44
Speaker 1: listening to you, guys. I can hear you perfectly. Um,
25:47
Speaker 1: I agree with a lot with Jeff was saying at
25:49
Speaker 1: the beginning about the rematch and the opportunities of Jack's
25:52
Speaker 1: have last year, and it's it's a lot more than
25:55
Speaker 1: just whether Miles Jack was down or not. My goodness,
25:59
Speaker 1: you had a lot opportunity to win that football game. Yeah, Offense, defense,
26:02
Speaker 1: special teams, each side of the ball had something go
26:05
Speaker 1: wrong in that game. Now, how much for you, Tony?
26:09
Speaker 1: Does that game enter to their mind this week? Or
26:12
Speaker 1: is that done in past? You know? Do you want
26:15
Speaker 1: to slay the dragon? I get it, but it's a
26:17
Speaker 1: regular season football game at the end of the day. Um,
26:22
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always I think it maybe is a
26:24
Speaker 1: part of the preparation as far as getting ready. It's
26:27
Speaker 1: in your mind and maybe you know, coaches might use
26:30
Speaker 1: it or players use it as a motivation, kind of
26:32
Speaker 1: that chip on your shoulders had attitude. But I'm a
26:35
Speaker 1: firm believer once the ball is kicked off, none of
26:38
Speaker 1: that stuff matters. It's another It's a football game. You
26:40
Speaker 1: gotta go play and no matter what happened last year's
26:44
Speaker 1: or even last week or the day before, it's not
26:46
Speaker 1: going to impact you know, what happens on that field
26:49
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So maybe a little bit of motivation, a
26:52
Speaker 1: little chip on the shoulder leading into it, But one kick,
26:55
Speaker 1: when the kick the balls kicked, that's it's just about football,
26:59
Speaker 1: you know. Um who And let me add this jp
27:02
Speaker 1: to it too, because you know, you know, every year,
27:04
Speaker 1: every team is different and from a chemistry makeup, you know,
27:10
Speaker 1: from an organizational standpoint, everything everything is kind of unique.
27:14
Speaker 1: And I think this year, you know, you look at
27:16
Speaker 1: the Patriots, I mean, they have some different qualities to
27:19
Speaker 1: their football team that they didn't have in the n
27:21
Speaker 1: f C title game. You know, they have a couple
27:23
Speaker 1: of new guys on defense that I think that that's changed.
27:26
Speaker 1: You know how good they are on that side of
27:27
Speaker 1: the ball first and foremost, and then they've lost some
27:30
Speaker 1: guys on the offensive offensive side of the ball that
27:33
Speaker 1: has made them i think, in some instances not nearly
27:36
Speaker 1: as good or nearly as threatening as what they were.
27:39
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, yeah, it's the same teams, and
27:42
Speaker 1: it's you know, less than a year later, but they
27:45
Speaker 1: are different teams. Yeah, and and that that happens every year.
27:50
Speaker 1: You're gonna have some key guys changing, and they're gonna
27:52
Speaker 1: be left tackle soldiers and and and and here's a
27:55
Speaker 1: perfect example. I'm gonna tee Tony up. Okay, last week
27:59
Speaker 1: we saw a really good left tackle and Nate Soldier
28:02
Speaker 1: who did a very good job against Yannick and got way.
28:06
Speaker 1: And he did a great job against Yannike and got
28:09
Speaker 1: way in the a f C title game. And now
28:12
Speaker 1: Janie was a little bit banged up. He got like
28:15
Speaker 1: an oblique muscle injury or whatever it was. Okay, but
28:18
Speaker 1: this week, okay, to show you how different it is,
28:21
Speaker 1: Tony Trent Brown left tackle in New England Patriots. What
28:24
Speaker 1: do you think about him? I'm studying getting ready for
28:30
Speaker 1: a Thursday night. Um, he's not Nate Solder. No, he's
28:36
Speaker 1: he's a huge man. If he just sets right, it's
28:45
Speaker 1: hard to get around him because he's so big, especially
28:47
Speaker 1: with Brady, because he does not take deep drops. Um.
28:51
Speaker 1: And so if you're unique, you really got to get
28:53
Speaker 1: a good jump and you gotta get a feat moving um.
28:56
Speaker 1: Just because he is so dang big. M he don't
29:00
Speaker 1: move well. Six eight three eight. Okay, last time I checked,
29:04
Speaker 1: there's never been a guy in the NFL at six
29:07
Speaker 1: eight that that way pounds could move well. And he's
29:11
Speaker 1: one of those guys that that Tony's right. If he
29:14
Speaker 1: gets a good initial set, he has a chance, just
29:17
Speaker 1: because he's so big and he's long. But if you
29:21
Speaker 1: get him moving, he's got no chance, no chance whatsoever.
29:27
Speaker 1: And the receiving corps for the New England Patriots Chris
29:30
Speaker 1: Hogan good football player, good football player. Philip Dorset No
29:36
Speaker 1: good football player. Is he a great football player? No.
29:40
Speaker 1: Gronkowski is the great football player on this offense as
29:43
Speaker 1: far as weapons for Tom Brady, but the rest of him,
29:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you can make an argument that James White's
29:49
Speaker 1: a great weapon in his role. I mean, there's not
29:52
Speaker 1: many running backs that have been able to do what
29:54
Speaker 1: he's done, you know in the Patriots as far as
29:57
Speaker 1: being a receiving threat out of the back, I think
30:00
Speaker 1: you said it right there though. His role and there's
30:02
Speaker 1: a lot of role playing guys that's exactly plug and
30:06
Speaker 1: play guys for a role and Tony Tony. You know,
30:09
Speaker 1: every year it seems like when we evaluate this Patriots
30:12
Speaker 1: football team, we kind of come away with it going
30:17
Speaker 1: they're not that good personnel wise, right, I mean that
30:22
Speaker 1: and so, but but that's the thing in their role
30:27
Speaker 1: and what they're asked to do. I think Bill Belichick
30:29
Speaker 1: does an amazing job at a kind of having roles
30:33
Speaker 1: and having them clearly defined and finding players that can
30:36
Speaker 1: fit those roles and and execute those roles. That's I
30:40
Speaker 1: think what he does best, of course, and it doesn't
30:42
Speaker 1: hurt have the greatest of all time quarterback. It gives
30:46
Speaker 1: you a lot of options there, I mean, the best
30:51
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. The margin of air with Tom
30:55
Speaker 1: Brady is as far as your personnel and the level
30:58
Speaker 1: of personnel you have is what's bigger than anyone else.
31:01
Speaker 1: It's like Aaron Rodgers, It's it's Tom Brady. This is
31:04
Speaker 1: it's just a handful of those guys. It was Kayton Manning.
31:08
Speaker 1: They allow you to get away with a lot of
31:10
Speaker 1: things that have the position they had on their roster.
31:14
Speaker 1: I'll get this, and you can't. You can't consider Julian
31:17
Speaker 1: Eleman part of this, okay, because suspended for four games.
31:20
Speaker 1: P e d s Okay. Going in the opener against
31:24
Speaker 1: the Texans, they had essentially two familiar faces at the
31:29
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Two okay, Chris Hogan Philip Dorsett, who,
31:35
Speaker 1: by the way, played little to no role last year
31:38
Speaker 1: at all at all? Did the rest of the wide
31:41
Speaker 1: receivers all right? Cordarrel Patterson okay, acquired in free agency.
31:46
Speaker 1: He's a gadget guy. Okay, he's not. I don't even
31:48
Speaker 1: consider him like a wide receiver running routes and stuff.
31:51
Speaker 1: He does all these kinds of gadgets and needs a
31:53
Speaker 1: kick returner. The other two guys that they had on
31:56
Speaker 1: the roster, mccaren and Hanson, they cut this week and
31:59
Speaker 1: replaced him Corey Colan and Benny Fowler. So obviously those
32:02
Speaker 1: guys were gonna play little to zero role in the
32:05
Speaker 1: opening game. And then the other wide receiver that they
32:07
Speaker 1: have on a rosters, Matthew Slater, and all he is
32:09
Speaker 1: as a special teamer and a and a damn good
32:12
Speaker 1: one at that. Okay, Pro Bowl caliber special teamer. But
32:17
Speaker 1: because you have Tom Brady you can do that. Okay,
32:22
Speaker 1: if you had Blake Portles, you wouldn't even think about
32:26
Speaker 1: that going into an opener with you know, two familiar
32:30
Speaker 1: faces and then the rest of these guys are slaps.
32:34
Speaker 1: You know, you wouldn't do that, not at all. I
32:37
Speaker 1: gotta ask you about this Patriots defense a little bit here.
32:42
Speaker 1: You know, we went to training camp up there last
32:44
Speaker 1: year and one of the things I think all three
32:46
Speaker 1: of us were sitting there that first day watching the
32:48
Speaker 1: Patriots pass rush against the Jaguars offensive line, saying, oh,
32:52
Speaker 1: these guys the same kind of idea, Who are these
32:54
Speaker 1: guys are not that great a pass rushing team? They've
32:57
Speaker 1: got a couple of guys guys, yes? And then a
33:00
Speaker 1: of course they was pretty good. They rule out week
33:02
Speaker 1: one last week in Houston and hit the quarterback twelve times.
33:06
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson put him on the ground I think three
33:08
Speaker 1: times in that game. Was that the Houston offensive line
33:12
Speaker 1: or was that the Patriots being pretty good? Tony? What
33:14
Speaker 1: do you think, uh, the Houston offensive line is atrocious.
33:20
Speaker 1: It might be the worst offensive line of football. Now,
33:24
Speaker 1: with that said, the Patriots are a good team rushed defense.
33:30
Speaker 1: They're not individually trace Faut Flowers is a good player,
33:34
Speaker 1: but they rushed the Patcher as a team well dancy
33:40
Speaker 1: when they rushed it as a team. But there is
33:42
Speaker 1: some talent there. Trey Flowers, like Tony said, good football player.
33:46
Speaker 1: Another good player is Dietrich Wise, Dietrich Wise Jr. Who's
33:51
Speaker 1: kind of a long, kind of Alonso Spellman type of guy.
33:55
Speaker 1: Tony to give you a name, blast from the past,
33:58
Speaker 1: but he's kind of got that body. You know. He's
33:59
Speaker 1: six five six six two seventy pounds, got like size
34:03
Speaker 1: seventeen feet, got hands like twice as long as me.
34:07
Speaker 1: I mean, just a big, long guy. Then you add
34:10
Speaker 1: to that Adrian Claiborne. And then last year they had
34:13
Speaker 1: high draft picking Derrek Rivers, who they really thought was gonna,
34:17
Speaker 1: you know, become an excellent pass rush for me. So,
34:19
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are pretty good now, Okay, and
34:21
Speaker 1: inside Malcolm Brown, good football player. Danny Shelton, who they
34:25
Speaker 1: acquired in a trade with Cleveland's a even he's the
34:28
Speaker 1: DARNI are gonna eat himself out of the National Football League.
34:31
Speaker 1: But I mean he could still play some good football.
34:34
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a two down player, knows tackle. If
34:37
Speaker 1: he would stop eating and then stop going to the
34:40
Speaker 1: buffet line, he would be a quality three down player.
34:44
Speaker 1: I mean, and arguably, and I'm and Tony and I
34:47
Speaker 1: both watched this guy went from the day he was
34:49
Speaker 1: a rookie. Tony correct me if I'm wrong, But Danny
34:53
Speaker 1: Shelton arguably could be the best tackle defensive tackle, one
34:59
Speaker 1: of the as defensive tackles in football if he would
35:02
Speaker 1: get his weight under control. He's a freaky athlete if
35:06
Speaker 1: you watch him back in his early days in Cleveland,
35:10
Speaker 1: and I'd go back further in college. His natural size
35:14
Speaker 1: and his feet, in his ability to bend his knees
35:17
Speaker 1: and with play with leverage. He even has a little
35:20
Speaker 1: bit of a pass rush from the inside because he's
35:22
Speaker 1: so powerful. He could be a great player. But he
35:26
Speaker 1: cannot stop eating. So it doesn't matter. I mean, how
35:28
Speaker 1: many guys you have throughout the years have we seen
35:32
Speaker 1: in this league that just can't control a certain aspect
35:35
Speaker 1: of their lifestyle, whether it's food or off the field
35:38
Speaker 1: issues or substances or whatever. It is. Well, we watched
35:42
Speaker 1: one first addictions. You know, it stops him from being
35:46
Speaker 1: a great player. And I'm not saying he's addicted the food,
35:48
Speaker 1: but it obviously he has something going on with his
35:51
Speaker 1: with his way. Yeah. The one that comes to mind
35:54
Speaker 1: being right off the top of my head, pot roast
35:56
Speaker 1: Terence Knighton, you know who played here in Jacksonville went
36:00
Speaker 1: on to play I think one year for the Patriots,
36:02
Speaker 1: maybe got cut. I don't know if he made it
36:04
Speaker 1: the whole year or not, but then played for the
36:06
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Uh. He was a guy that that essentially
36:09
Speaker 1: ate himself out of the league. If he ever got
36:11
Speaker 1: his weight under control. Uh, he would have continued to
36:14
Speaker 1: play for for a few more years in the National
36:16
Speaker 1: Football League. And he was a good football player, but
36:19
Speaker 1: his weight, his weight cost him, cost him money, cost
36:22
Speaker 1: him the quality of player that he was. And uh,
36:26
Speaker 1: and it happens. But Danny shut when you watch him
36:29
Speaker 1: and you watch the film of him JP, I mean literally,
36:31
Speaker 1: you know how like as a kid used to kind
36:33
Speaker 1: of have fun and you put like pillows under your shirt,
36:37
Speaker 1: you know, and walk around like you're a big guy. No,
36:40
Speaker 1: I never did that, Okay, Dan Shelton looks like he's
36:43
Speaker 1: like stuffed pillows under his uniform and he's sticking Hall out.
36:47
Speaker 1: I mean he he is big, Jeff, JP didn't have
36:53
Speaker 1: to do that. See that one up for your town.
36:59
Speaker 1: On the other out of the coin. In this conversation,
37:01
Speaker 1: we're just kind of going down this road. But before
37:03
Speaker 1: we do, I just wanted to mention one name, but
37:05
Speaker 1: we're on the defensive line, Adrian Claiborne, because I wanted
37:08
Speaker 1: to mention him, and I didn't get to because I
37:10
Speaker 1: got sidetracked on Danny Adrian Claiborne player and and Tony
37:15
Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne, Okay versus Cam Robinson, Trey Flowers versus Jeremy Parnell.
37:22
Speaker 1: This is not an easy matchup this week. No, I
37:25
Speaker 1: guarantee you. I guarantee you. Right now, Adrian Claiborne is
37:28
Speaker 1: gonna line up in a white six and with I
37:31
Speaker 1: think it'll be the first pass rush. If it's not
37:34
Speaker 1: the first, it will be soon after that. And he
37:35
Speaker 1: is coming downhill and is going to try to run
37:38
Speaker 1: over Cam Robinson to set up the rest of the
37:41
Speaker 1: rest of the day to get him leaning. Interesting stuff there.
37:44
Speaker 1: Back to the wait stuff you know, having a Shelton
37:47
Speaker 1: is big and all that. On the flip of that,
37:50
Speaker 1: how about the play of Marcel Darius a week ago.
37:52
Speaker 1: It looks like he's trimmed up a little bit. You know,
37:55
Speaker 1: he's running to the sideline with that frame to to
37:58
Speaker 1: chase down Barkley at one point. Okay, So me and
38:01
Speaker 1: Tony are gonna differ on you on this one, okay,
38:04
Speaker 1: because we we both sat down and we didn't watch
38:07
Speaker 1: the film the same film together, but we watched our
38:10
Speaker 1: film independently and came to a similar conclusion, which was
38:15
Speaker 1: on Marcel Darius. Yes, he did make the play where
38:18
Speaker 1: he ran okay, and he made a tackle out in space.
38:21
Speaker 1: Great job, good hustle. But the violence and the the
38:27
Speaker 1: separating and getting off of blocks that typically is one
38:31
Speaker 1: of the great things that Marcel Darius does to make
38:35
Speaker 1: plays didn't really show itself in this past game. And
38:39
Speaker 1: if you go back to the preseason, if I remember correctly,
38:44
Speaker 1: he would he had an injury that kind of kept
38:47
Speaker 1: him out of one game, and I and and I
38:52
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that they had said that because
38:55
Speaker 1: when you watch him now, you kind of get the
38:58
Speaker 1: impression that he's holding something back. With his upper body.
39:03
Speaker 1: And I don't know, but maybe that pectoral injury that
39:08
Speaker 1: he had in the preseason might have something to do
39:10
Speaker 1: with it. And Tony, you can say what you think,
39:13
Speaker 1: but I think we're kind of an agreement on this, well, Jeff,
39:18
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I would I agree AD was
39:21
Speaker 1: sent by the way with you. Um, I actually watching
39:26
Speaker 1: Marcel is he is really active, JP to your point,
39:30
Speaker 1: and so that's and he's running and he looks good.
39:33
Speaker 1: But the violence of the upper body and the physicality
39:37
Speaker 1: with his upper body is not what I remember from
39:40
Speaker 1: last year or remember from what I saw in training
39:43
Speaker 1: camp where he was dominant. So I don't know what
39:47
Speaker 1: the issue is. And maybe it was just one game.
39:50
Speaker 1: Maybe Jeff and I are looking into it too much,
39:53
Speaker 1: but that's what I saw as well. Yeah, the one
39:55
Speaker 1: thing that's always been, you know, his calling card is power, power,
39:58
Speaker 1: strength and the ability to to anchor, you know, and
40:02
Speaker 1: and to stand guys up and and literally it's almost
40:05
Speaker 1: like he's you know, drinking a cup of coffee with
40:07
Speaker 1: his right hand and he's holding the offensive lineman off
40:10
Speaker 1: with the left and he goes, okay, there's a ball career,
40:12
Speaker 1: you know, throws a guy to the side, throws a
40:14
Speaker 1: cup of coffee down and makes the tackle. I mean,
40:16
Speaker 1: that's kind of how he is. But he didn't really
40:18
Speaker 1: see any of that against the Giant. It wasn't bad.
40:21
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody get the wrong impression. It wasn't bad.
40:24
Speaker 1: It just wasn't to the level of physical domage that
40:27
Speaker 1: were normally accustomed to see him with Marcel Darius because
40:30
Speaker 1: he's not normal. He can take over, he's not normal
40:32
Speaker 1: when it comes to to the strength level type of thing. Now, now,
40:36
Speaker 1: the other guy that think on the defensive line that
40:38
Speaker 1: we have seen show signs of being incredibly strong and practice,
40:42
Speaker 1: which is the rookie Tavin Brian. I was kind of
40:46
Speaker 1: underwhelmed by his performance. You know, he had a couple
40:49
Speaker 1: of plays where he was involved in the tackle. He
40:52
Speaker 1: wasn't on the on the field a lot, was he. Now,
40:54
Speaker 1: he was on the field enough to to show you know, uh,
40:59
Speaker 1: he and it's his first professional game. Okay, so you're
41:03
Speaker 1: willing to say, okay, look, you know, let's kind of
41:05
Speaker 1: get to the next game and see where he's at,
41:07
Speaker 1: because the first game is never an easy one for
41:10
Speaker 1: a young player like that. But uh, underwhelming first game,
41:13
Speaker 1: but not willing to be disappointed because you know it
41:17
Speaker 1: is the first game. Let's see what he does this week. Alright, guys,
41:19
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41:22
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41:25
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41:28
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41:32
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41:37
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Speaker 1: n c U. A hands down the best tight end
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45:35
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45:38
Speaker 1: is the Cadillac of tight ends in the league, and
45:41
Speaker 1: we're gonna have our hands bel room. The Cadillac of
45:44
Speaker 1: tight ends. God wahed, there was talking about rock. Of course,
45:48
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come up with a better term.
45:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the Cadillac. It's a catty. It's
45:56
Speaker 1: a catty man. I don't know, JP, I just thought
46:01
Speaker 1: there could have there could have been a you know,
46:03
Speaker 1: it's that a Lamborghini. He's not fast enough for right.
46:06
Speaker 1: Remember the movie the Cadillac. That's from GETT Shorty. Remember
46:11
Speaker 1: talking about the Oldsmobile, the minivan, but the slide doors.
46:13
Speaker 1: That's the Cadillac of minivans. J P. Shadrick, Jeff. That's
46:20
Speaker 1: number his numbers, by the way, I mean, Gronkowski's it's
46:25
Speaker 1: not just on paste blow every tight end receiving record
46:30
Speaker 1: out of the water. And and on top of that,
46:33
Speaker 1: he's a he's an effective tight end, you know. So
46:37
Speaker 1: uh and I know that. You know, the last matchup,
46:39
Speaker 1: he didn't end up lasting long because he got knocked
46:41
Speaker 1: out a hit from Barry Church that was, you know,
46:43
Speaker 1: kind of controversial, you know, was it an illegal hit
46:47
Speaker 1: or not? Um? You know, but Gronkowski is a great
46:49
Speaker 1: football player. I mean seventy seven touchdowns. Seventies seven touchdowns
46:56
Speaker 1: in nine years for a tight end. It's remarkable, man,
46:59
Speaker 1: it's really is. That's crazy number. Is um. We'll see
47:05
Speaker 1: him this Sunday. Hey, Time to get to the pis.
47:08
Speaker 1: Let's get the last week's results though. First of the
47:11
Speaker 1: picks here on this program and last week the winner
47:16
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. Look at that seven and one in
47:18
Speaker 1: the eight games logs six and two, but SELLI am
47:21
Speaker 1: easily five and three last. Alright, So the question that
47:24
Speaker 1: me and Tony would have is that while we're texting
47:28
Speaker 1: you or giving you our picks, we're not seeing yours.
47:32
Speaker 1: So there's no way, okay, to confirm that you're being accurate.
47:38
Speaker 1: And truth doesn't matter if you guys are picking different anyway.
47:41
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but how do we know that you
47:43
Speaker 1: didn't just make up the number? We never saw your picks? Yeah,
47:46
Speaker 1: I mean I end up six. What are you talking
47:49
Speaker 1: about the screen coming? We need to make sure that
47:52
Speaker 1: we're seeing it, okay, well, in advance proof of performance.
47:57
Speaker 1: He made the picks on the air. But here's the thing.
48:00
Speaker 1: JP has a Tennessee. When we're not writing them down,
48:03
Speaker 1: he of of cheating. So if you asked me Tony
48:07
Speaker 1: one week later, we'd say, who did JP pick? I
48:09
Speaker 1: don't know that could change his pick? No, some trust here,
48:16
Speaker 1: I have zero trust. I don't trust Jpe. What I mean, Joe,
48:20
Speaker 1: I'm gonna su these games in a hurry, will you? Alright? Alright? Mr?
48:24
Speaker 1: Change them later? Yeah, it'd be great, that's true. Alright,
48:26
Speaker 1: come on tonight. Ravens Bengals. He got JP? Who do
48:30
Speaker 1: I got? I can't remember it. I got the thing,
48:32
Speaker 1: got the Ravens, that's all. I got. Ravens Logs the
48:36
Speaker 1: same thing. Right, I've got the Ravens, I got the Bengals.
48:39
Speaker 1: I've watched the tape of both games. Uh, the Ravens.
48:43
Speaker 1: The Ravens victory was it was a good one. They
48:46
Speaker 1: blew them out. Um, but it's not as the Bills
48:50
Speaker 1: are terrible and it was not as impressive as the
48:53
Speaker 1: score in my opinion. And the Bengals, I like them.
48:56
Speaker 1: Their battle tested and Joe Nixon is a stud good player,
49:00
Speaker 1: good running back, no doubt. Alright, to one of no teams, Dolphins, Jets,
49:05
Speaker 1: give me the Jets, Sam Donald, I mean, I'm going
49:09
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins. You know that rookie ride and high thing.
49:12
Speaker 1: I think might come to the screeching halt this week,
49:15
Speaker 1: you know, because uh, he was fantastic now in his
49:19
Speaker 1: first game, but I don't see that happening again like that, Tony.
49:22
Speaker 1: It's it's Donald all the way to start, and they're
49:26
Speaker 1: gonna win USC at Homer. Alright, one of the teams
49:29
Speaker 1: of the tie Chiefs and Steelers. This is the one
49:32
Speaker 1: where I got you, guys. Last week. I picked the
49:34
Speaker 1: Chiefs to win, and I'm gonna do it again, Alright,
49:36
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Pittsburgh's at home, baby, I'm taking Pittsburgh defense,
49:42
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's home on the road. I think it's Pittsburgh defense
49:46
Speaker 1: is historically very tough on young quarterbacks. And and I
49:49
Speaker 1: love my homes. You guys know how I feel about him.
49:51
Speaker 1: But he's still young quarterback. Yes, but boy, he can
49:53
Speaker 1: throw it. He can win, he can win it. Alright.
49:56
Speaker 1: Nice division game Texans and tightness is it nice? And
49:59
Speaker 1: both the I say somebody has to win, but I
50:02
Speaker 1: got moving wrong, not necessarily true. But this week will
50:05
Speaker 1: be the Texans across the board. I mean, Mariota's got
50:08
Speaker 1: injury questions with his throwing arm. That's not good. Um
50:13
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan, you know, concussion. Will he be able to play?
50:19
Speaker 1: Delaney Walker, who is arguably one of the top you
50:22
Speaker 1: know three tight ends in the league, has gone for
50:25
Speaker 1: the year with a significant injury. You know, they got
50:28
Speaker 1: too many questions in Tennessee no brainer Texas, no brainers. Well,
50:36
Speaker 1: good thing for you. It's a no brainer because I
50:38
Speaker 1: hate the sad like the see the Redskins. Who in
50:40
Speaker 1: this but Cols the Redskins. I think that's a clean
50:44
Speaker 1: sweep for all of us. Again, as you know, look,
50:49
Speaker 1: the Cults have a terrible roster. That's all I gotta
50:52
Speaker 1: say about them. I don't know if I'll pick them much,
50:55
Speaker 1: but unless they were to play the Bills, you know,
50:58
Speaker 1: the Jets or somebody like that. But I mean, look,
51:01
Speaker 1: the Redskins should win. Alex Smith did a good job
51:05
Speaker 1: in his first game ever for the Redskins, by the
51:08
Speaker 1: way he did. Yeah, I watched the Colts un film
51:10
Speaker 1: against the Bengals. They're not great roster wise. The defense
51:14
Speaker 1: doesn't do much to really get you too excited. But
51:16
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Andrew Luck looks good and he
51:20
Speaker 1: gives him a chance in every game, but he can't
51:23
Speaker 1: throw the ball fifty three times every week and get
51:26
Speaker 1: hit like he did. Well, he can throw it if
51:27
Speaker 1: he's saw in the ten yards to a tight end
51:29
Speaker 1: like he does. Both tight ends had big games last week.
51:32
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you look good. Last of the day games.
51:34
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick Lions at Wow? Um, it's a tough
51:40
Speaker 1: one for the Lions last week. Forty niners for me?
51:43
Speaker 1: How do you pick the Lions after watching them and
51:46
Speaker 1: they gotta go all the way out west for this
51:48
Speaker 1: Monday night against the Jet? How he picks to Stafford
51:51
Speaker 1: throw seven? Now it was seven and he end in
51:53
Speaker 1: that game four bakers, but it was four. So all
52:00
Speaker 1: niners here, right, Bo? Yeah? Absolutely? NFC's Giants at Cowboys.
52:07
Speaker 1: Here's I get one right here? This is uh, this
52:11
Speaker 1: is an interesting one. I'm going Dallas. You know, um
52:14
Speaker 1: at home Sunday night. Jerry's world. All right, So give
52:18
Speaker 1: me a reason because they're at home at night. What's
52:23
Speaker 1: your reason, Bo for picking the Cowboys yards rushing? I
52:29
Speaker 1: think they gas him up front? Yeah, I don't think
52:31
Speaker 1: that happens. I think that do. I think the Giants
52:34
Speaker 1: front pretty good so far, stop and run. I think
52:36
Speaker 1: stink at rushing the pass her. But what what constantly
52:40
Speaker 1: kind of sticks out in my mind that the Jaguars
52:42
Speaker 1: against the Giants was how close the Giants were to
52:45
Speaker 1: connecting on some big plays, not only with Beckham the
52:48
Speaker 1: couple that were missed, but Evan Ingram the tight end
52:52
Speaker 1: and se Kwon Barkley could have a couple of big
52:56
Speaker 1: runs against the Cowboys. Harv him up. Yeah, he's a
52:59
Speaker 1: dynamic player. You will be a dynamic player in this league. Alright.
53:02
Speaker 1: Last one Monday night football seat at Chicago. MM, interesting
53:09
Speaker 1: Monday night football game. I'm going with the Bears at home.
53:13
Speaker 1: Dub Bears. They had a tough loss last week against
53:18
Speaker 1: He was good and Tony. Think of what Khalil Mack
53:22
Speaker 1: will do against the left tackle of the Seattle Seahawks
53:25
Speaker 1: to a right tackle. Yeah, no, there's no doubt about that.
53:29
Speaker 1: But Russell Wilson has has had a bad offensive line
53:32
Speaker 1: his whole career. UM, I didnt think Russell Wilson is
53:35
Speaker 1: the difference in this game. If I'm you know, I
53:37
Speaker 1: don't think either team is very good. But I'm picking
53:39
Speaker 1: between the two of them. I'll take Russell Wilson over
53:42
Speaker 1: Dr Brisky. I love the running back for the Bears.
53:46
Speaker 1: What is his name is like third year player? Uh?
53:49
Speaker 1: I think he is mart Jordan right, a good player.
53:54
Speaker 1: Trabisky look good the other night. I just couldn't keep
53:58
Speaker 1: up with the greatness of Aaron Rodgers. I like the Bears,
54:01
Speaker 1: doub Bears. You have it. Uh At our picks are in,
54:04
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54:31
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54:34
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54:36
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54:44
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars is I mean, outside of Tom Brady,
54:47
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54:49
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54:53
Speaker 1: and I think it's a very close game. It's a
54:58
Speaker 1: field goal game, but I think the Jacks win. Mr. Loman,
55:01
Speaker 1: I just I think, you know, this game really is
55:04
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55:07
Speaker 1: will be good against Tom Brady, as good as it
55:09
Speaker 1: can be, because sometimes the coverage can't be great because
55:12
Speaker 1: he's just flat out great. But I think the pressure
55:15
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady is what's going to be critical. And
55:19
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55:23
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55:26
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55:29
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55:33
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55:37
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55:39
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55:43
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55:46
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55:49
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55:50
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55:52
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55:56
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55:59
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56:01
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