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Outdoors with... Content Creator OutsidewithLira · Outdoors with Yorkshire Wildlife Trust

• 0:10
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, you're outdoors with the Yorkshire Wildlife Trust.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_02: From wild swimming to dog walking, birdwatching to rock balling, we're going outside to try new things and chat about why those things matter.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Kathy, from Yorkshire Wildlife Trust, and I'll be exploring our local landscapes and the people who love it.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: This week I joined urban conservationists outside of Lyra as a reserving corridor.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: As I step off the train in London, I can see Lyra walking up with me and waiting, which is the dark left and behind the bustling world of London in a quiet and beautiful way to reserve.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: Heavington Farmland.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_02: We're outside of Yorkshire today as Lyra wants to showcase the blue and green spaces in the heart of our capital city and to showcase how urban environments and communities can still get involved with nature.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: Lyra started her journey working in nature for London Wildlife Trust and now creates content online to an audience of over 130,000 people.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: Hi! Oh no, don't worry! Hi, I'm Sassy, nice to meet you.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Lovely to meet you, Lyra.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'll give you this, which is one of our minds.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: Then we're set to go.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: As we're walking, we can just start and get into it.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: So tell me your name and what you do.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_03: So my name is Lyra Valencia.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm a nature enthusiast and I make content online all around nature, urban connection to nature, and yeah, how we can help do our part for nature.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: And where are we today?
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_03: Today we're in South London, we are in Bennington Farmlands.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's a local spot to me, and I've been here a handful of times, absolutely love it.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_03: There's lots of bird life, which hopefully we'll see.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's um our first show on the road outside of Yorkshire today.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for coming.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: This is a really cool spot because it's like so close to things, like it's really close to a railway line, and you've got shops and you've got people living nearby.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and you live locally as well, right?
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: So, what's that like being able to have access to something that is actually quite like open and big and expansive?
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I'm I'm super blessed.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I feel really blessed to be able to step out.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I live in quite a green part of South London, so Croydon has got lots of green spaces.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and as you can see, like this is literally like on my doorstep.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, so yeah, I I feel very blessed.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is really cool, and I think also being able to be in London, which I guess traditionally people think of just like big skyscrapers and and the tube system and shops and stuff to actually come out and be somewhere like this, and it's pretty accessible to get to, it's quite quite great.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can walk, so I can walk here, which takes me like 45 minutes to an hour, which I love to do.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: Or um I can catch a tram.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_03: We have tramping for Aden, catch a tram, and then there's a shorter walk, can catch a train.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: I think you guys came to the train station to Hackbridge station is the nearest station.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, or you could do what I did today, which I could I caught two buses and it took me 25 minutes.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: So super that's a good thing about London, there's like got so many different like modes of transport, yeah, uh making it more accessible.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_03: And you used to work for a wildlife trust.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_03: I used to work for the London Wildlife Trust, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we basically used to work together.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're ex-colleagues, yeah.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_03: I was with them for three years.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: I worked at uh their largest nature reserve, which is Wolfhamstale Wetlands in North London.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so it's quite a trick away from here.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but yeah, I absolutely loved it.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_03: I worked as one of their rangers um in the nature reserve and spent a lot of time outdoors, bird watching, hosting workshops.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, no, it was a great job.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: I miss it, I miss it a lot.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: How did you get into kind of conservation and nature?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: Was it from like an early early years?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I always knew, like since I was little, like I really loved, I think like many kids like love animals, love wildlife, found it really like interesting.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: I was so curious as a child.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then I mean it was like it's a big roller coaster journey of like how I got to where I am now, but um I studied zoology at uni, cool.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I guess from there just started doing different work experiences, traineeships, and then landed my first job at the London Wildlife Trust, uh, where I worked for three years as a ranger.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so yeah, kind of yeah, happened all.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't say smoothly, but yeah, I knew I knew the end the end goal was to work in in nature.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: I always knew.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_03: I guess it was kind of a bit of a traditional path because I always knew.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I wouldn't say you you need to be someone who's like a born interest, you know, in nature.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like I know so I met so many people along the way who had a different, completely different like path for me, who maybe necessarily wasn't into nature, but I don't know, maybe they're into art or I don't know, they were like in a different kind of uh background, academic background, but they made their way into a similar role together.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think quite a lot of people I talk to, like who are in the sector, end up if they weren't coming from like a this is the thing I've always wanted to do perspective, it's actually something that they like doing in their like spare time.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then they've uh they've kind of then gone, well, I can use my skills in this arena to then bring me to like work for something that I really care about and looking after.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think that's really I think it's important to like try and encourage people from all different backgrounds that no matter what you your interests are or what you studied in, like to find a way to weave nature into that or like wildlife conservation.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's really important.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: So here today, I guess like what sort of wildlife might we be able to see?
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: So here or just generally in London, like what's some of the the like key things that you think are actually these are things that I see all the time.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we just saw a butterfly.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not really like an expert on butterflies.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't think I think maybe it's a large white, it could be a large white.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um so we could spot some butterflies, we could spot birds.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_03: We have uh we're gonna come up to like a bird hive now.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um overlooking like um lagoon.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a little lake, a mini lake.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's really pretty.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, it hasn't dried up because I haven't been here in a while.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, we could spot heron species, kingfishers, lots of different duck species, a tufted duck.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_03: I saw a little egret last time I was here.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I love a little egret.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, do you have uh like a favourite species of bird?
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's so I feel like it changes all the time.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_03: It changes, like it changes with the seasons.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_03: But I think like a group of birds that I'm most interested in is the kingfisher, yeah.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_03: Because um here in the UK we only get the like the Eurasian or common kingfisher, which is beautiful, stunning.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_03: But all around the world you get different species of kingfishers, and you can they come in all sorts of shapes and sizes and colours, and they're just gorgeous.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: I love a kingfisher.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um that was actually one of the when I first got this job, and it was one of the first birds I saw, and I was like, Yeah, well, you're super lucky! I know, I felt like it was like a sign that this is right, you know.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: We were like sat and the sun was setting, and it was like late in autumn, and then I saw this like flash of blue, and my partner's really into nature and always has been.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: So he's got this like these amazing binoculars, and I like looked at it through and I was like, wow, I can't believe I've just seen my bones for me.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like that memory that I just spoke about, it brought me so much joy.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I think you speak a lot about in your work about like what being outside and spotting these birds can actually do for like your mental health.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I wonder whether you could touch on that a little for a little bit.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I just I think being outside in general, like even if you're not bird watching or not into birds, like it does you good, and it's scientifically proven to like help like relieve stress, um, like calm your nervous system.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_03: And so we all know it makes us feel better.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think bird watching for me though is just like kind of that step extra where it really distracts me.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like in that moment, like when I'm looking at something, even if I don't know what it is, like I'm really getting shivered, finger.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I I really want to identify where it is, I want to know where it is.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_03: I'm looking at it, I'm looking at trying to look at like the colours of the shape, and in that moment, like I'm not thinking about my stress, like my bills, my debt, my uni student finance.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm not thinking, I'm not thinking about all those things.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking about like it's just me and that bird really.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, and even if it's just two minutes where I'm feeling that feeling, it's two minutes of not stressing, like, and that for me is yes, priceless.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, so in a way, birds have really saved me.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like when I'm feeling really down, oh goodness, really bad.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_03: There's like a bump patch of grass here, so another maybe mini wildfire.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just for example, just now seeing this bump patch of grass has made me feel a certain way.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: But let's say right now, in this moment, I heard a green woodpecker, I would actually be the shadow person, and I'd want to look for that green woodpecker.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_03: And in that moment, I'm searching for that green woodpecker, and then I'm looking at it, and then I'm like I'm like relieved of stress in that moment, even if it's stress 30 seconds or I don't know, a minute, two minutes.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: Being outdoors is really good if you're doing it by yourself or with people.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's something really nice about like that solitary moment that you have like one-on-one with a bird that passes by, or a flower that you see that you've never seen before.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: Also, there's something really nice about like doing that with other people and like sharing that with someone that might have and never done it before.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I love that, yeah.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I think when I'm oh well let's go, this is where the King of the Bird hides us.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_03: When um when I'm with other people who maybe haven't bird watched before, or I'm trying to teach them about birds that I'm around, and they spot something interesting for the first time, say the Kingfisher, which used to happen a lot at my job at the London Wildlife Trust.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: When they saw that Kingfisher for the first time and seeing their reaction, I felt it as well, like it was my first time.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, and it really like that was probably my favourite part of the job.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's like teaching others how to spot wildlife and seeing them benefit from it.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like I was benefiting, yeah, as well.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and perfect timing because we've reached the heights.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so now that might be something that we see.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't think about binoculars out.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think this geese.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, but look at it.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: Who would have thought this isn't Croydon?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_03: This is Croydon, South London.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_03: Look at this, it's amazing.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: Look at me in Yorkshire.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: Got reeds, we've got a beautiful lagoon, little islands.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_03: I can see a corn rent's head popping up there.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: And this is even without the binoculars.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: I can see geese.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's beautiful, yeah.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: And just the colours as well, like purple, yeah.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's called I don't know, is that purple loose stripe?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not too sure, but it's uh it's like a a plant that grows um really well, like next to next to water.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: We used to get a lot at the wetlands, really.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, apparently you can brew it and it's good if you've got a diary art.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_03: See the plants?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: I know it's that purple loose strife.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: The craziest properties, it does they do, don't they?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: I think like I really want I wish I knew more, and um it's something I'm interested on about like what herbs and plants can do for you for those sorts of things.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, literally.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: I just went on a walk actually on Sunday, all about like plant remedies and like how different plants around us, even here around us in like London, can help you like medicinally?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they have so many like nettles, they're really, really good.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they have a lot of minerals.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, a little ducklings! Oh god, let's have a look, see what they're doing.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: The ducklings are so cute.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Are there any sorts of birds that when you're here you're like really looking out for?
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Kingfisher.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: And heron, you know, I really love to see a heron.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_03: A grey heron.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: They feel quite like prehistoric.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: They they do.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, that heron.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: Look at that, look at that.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_03: The way it's gliding across.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_03: I think there's a goal as well on a nest.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_03: Straight ahead.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I can see it.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: On that little mound.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_03: On that little mound, yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's a black-headed goal.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: At this time already, this is a good sign of autumn as well, winter comes.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like they're already losing their black heads.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: So in the summer they they develop black heads, and then in the winter and autumn, their head turns white again, and they're already like lost all the black cover of the head.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: So they're they're for them, they're they're in autumn.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_03: They're interested.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're ready.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's so cool.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: I learned that about puffins, is that they lose the colour of their beaks when they go back out to sea, and then they come back to the exact same spot, and then they get the right beak.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy, isn't it?
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: How nature does that?
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: I saw that you were talking about the kind of stuff that you're up to and the the soul food.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: Garden, that's the one.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: I have a community garden um like very close to me, and it started, it used to be a dump site, so we live on a dead end.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and people would always come and like fly tip, but I'm talking about like big stuff, so fridges and like motorcycles or broken bicycles, and they would just dump everything at the end of our road, which happened to be like a patch of green space.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um so in lockdown, we just decided to start litter picking, clearing the space, and then we said, why don't we start growing foods like just a few tomatoes?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_03: And then it just started like, and then why don't we build a tree house?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: Why do we get a free chickens?
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: Or why don't we?
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: And you just keep and keep, and now we like give a lot of food to our neighbourhood.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: We handed around lots of tomatoes recently.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_03: Potatoes, carrier, pumpkins, lots of different foods, and yeah, we can all eat together, we're playing music, and it's just a good way to show like um how growing foods and being out in nature can bring communities together where the neighbours we a lot of us didn't used to talk to each other, we even had like problems.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um now we meet in the garden almost every evening in the summer now.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: Share dinner, yeah.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: On the weekends, we're there all eating together and gardening together, or just listening to music.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it's really nice.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's such a beautiful space.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: You guys, next time you come, you have to come.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we will.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing, yeah, it's really cool.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: Did you like learn those skills?
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, did you have someone who taught them to you, or have you kind of like picked them up over like the last few years?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I think sometimes maybe people worry about like gardening and the outdoors because they don't know what they're doing.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Oh gosh, and I think with the internet, and I'm saying this as someone who creates content, there's so much information out there that do this, make sure you don't do this.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: If you're doing this, it's like ex so overwhelming.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_03: And I think, especially in like the gardening and nature connection space, it could be overcomplicated.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: My biggest message is you don't need anything like expensive or flashy, even just a bird watch, you don't need binoculars.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like you really just a pair of eyes or just your ears, just being outside and um and listening.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, you don't even need to look, I'm closing my eyes right now.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: And just listen in.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: And if you can do that, then you could go outside and you can connect with nature, you could bird watch.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_03: And with gardening as well, I'm not a good gardener.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, a lot of the things I grow don't make it.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: I forget to water my plants.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, all my vegetable beds are broken because I made them out of just like scraps I found.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I managed to grow a few tomatoes, a few things, yeah, in my own garden.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: And in the soul food garden, I just copy what Marcus, the founder, told me because he's he's a really good grower.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just there for the vibe.
• 14:58
  unknown: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_03: So just get involved.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: Nature, like you can't really make a mistake.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Jo, the Wilder Communities Manager at Yorkshire Wildlife Trust.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: So my team support communities all over Yorkshire to come together and take collective action by creating more space for nature in their neighbourhoods.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Much of our work focuses on urban communities who face barriers to accessing quality green space.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: So our goal is to increase people's connection with nature by helping them to transform sickets and verges, parks, playing fields, and grey spaces into thriving green oases on their doorsteps.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: So we break down barriers by going to where people are, knocking on doors, turning up in streets, community centres and places of worship, working in partnership with local organisations and local authorities.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: We help people to see what is possible when you let nature into your heart and into your street.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Nature can thrive anywhere with a little help, whether you have a large garden or a small yard, even a balcony.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: There are things that you can do to attract more wildlife and provide a thriving ecosystem.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: So we've created downloadable toolkits with lots of top tips and step-by-step guides to help you to get started with information about what plants to provide for pollen and nectar throughout the year, how to add shelter for nesting and egg laying, how to create connectivity between your green space and other green spaces within your neighbourhood.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: So to reward the fantastic actions of gardeners across Yorkshire, we've created a Wildlife Gardening Award with bronze, silver and gold awards.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's an award for everyone and every space.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Whether it's a garden at home, in your place of work, at your school, at your place of worship, or somewhere in your community, you can apply for a wildlife gardening award.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: And over 700 gardeners across Yorkshire have already received their award.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: So simply go to our website, take off everything that you've done in your garden, upload a couple of photos, and submit your application.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's really easy to apply, and we'll send you a certificate by email.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you can also purchase a plaque to display with pride.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: On the topic of awards, our Wild Youth Awards are a really great way for young people aged 11 to 25 to gain recognition for the time they spend connecting with, learning about, and helping the natural world.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: The more time young people spend in their nature-related activities, the higher the award level they earn.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Register on our website, take part, and then let us know what you've done to receive your award.
• 17:33
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• 17:39
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• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Both are packed full of opportunities to get outdoors, get involved, and be the difference that nature needs.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: Even the people that I know that have had like allotments for years, sometimes like they'll be like, Well, my courgettes didn't grow this year.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: I did exactly the same thing as when I had like hundreds of cordettes.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: So nature does its own thing.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh hundred, especially now with the weather and with drought, people are not being able to like water their plants.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: My pear tree that usually does really, really good in the soul for your garden, hasn't really given many pears.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: Or the pears that she has given, they're really small and they're not sweet.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: And that's just because of the drought.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing you can do.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of onions this year, I think, with many farmers, like just didn't do well.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: They um it's called bolting, it's when they they don't grow, the onion doesn't grow big and then it produces lots of seeds really quickly.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: So it puts all because it knows it's not going to survive or grow much bigger.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: It puts all its energy into producing a flower of seeds to give chance to the next generation.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: But it just means you get a really small onion.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I think it happened because it's stress and stressed with the with the heat, which we can't control, you know.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: That onion metaphor is quite good for like, I guess maybe like why the world is in the state it is, because people like were doing bad things to the planet and then like stressing out because oh we're not really sure how to fix this, so we'll just create loads of seeds and pass it on to the future.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: And now and now the young people, we're here to lead the way.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be a massive onion by the end of it.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: Not passing this on to anyone at all.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: No, we're gonna sort it.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna sort it, yeah.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like we haven't really had a choice.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: Because we are thinking about our future is not looking good, so we have no choice but to start making changes or spreading messages or wisdom.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like, how can we, yeah, how can we make a change?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's like spreading of like wisdom and using like online and social media, I think is really important.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: I think it gets a bad rep because people are like, oh, people on their phone for not spending that time outside, but actually it allows you to connect with people.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: So talk to us a bit like how you started kind of being online and what sort of like the community of like engaging people with urban like conservation is like.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: Firstly, I grew up like with a phone.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um well, like from what probably when I was a teenager, like phones started becoming a thing.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm always been quite comfortable with like putting myself on camera.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but it wasn't until I started my job at the London Wildlife Trust in the Wetlands that I started like posting myself more and all centered around like what I was doing in the wetlands because I realised like my friends and family didn't understand my job.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I was like, you know what, I'm gonna show I'm gonna show my friends and family like what I actually do and what's out there in in London.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: One video that I took, actually I was in Craydon at the time, I wasn't even at work and I was in my binoculars and I was birding around Crayden, main Crayden, so not in a park.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_03: And it caught like a lot of attention because people were like, but they're like, yeah, there's only pigeons in London, and what are you bird watching?
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: And how can someone like you be bird watching?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like, so yeah, from then I was like, okay, there's all these unanswered questions and misconceptions about wildlife conservation in the city.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I started making videos and educational videos and putting a bit more effort into them and helping people to ID different species and why they're important as well, not just like here, this is a heron or a kingfisher or I don't know a caterpillar, but why these are important as well.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: It just kept going and going and yeah, and then I and then I left my my wildlife, like my ranger job uh six months ago to like full-time content create.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: Amazing.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: With social media, I I totally agree.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like I understand why people have this thing about oh, like, but you know, you're encouraging people to go on their phone, and that's what's wrong with the world.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I think in a in a way they are correct, but the reality is we do spend a lot of our times on our phone, especially young people.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I wanted to utilize us, okay.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people on here, I want to influence a lot of people to start connecting with nature, and I reached a lot of yeah, I reached a lot of people.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you've got a really good reach, and I think that sort of like beginnings of just like I'm just doing it because I want to share this, and then look at where it's gone because loads of people want to know that info, it's just really nice.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: It is, it is, it was overwhelming at first, but now uh yeah, it's it's really nice.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, people are interested, like so a lot of people say, Oh, like young people don't care about you know nature.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Young people don't care, they always care about XYZ or materialistic things, and I think it's it's not true.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: And my Instagram shows that because the majority of my followers are young people, very young people, people in their teens or early 20s who are like really worried about their future.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: Bird watching is like the second most hobby on the rise apart from jewelry making.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, yeah, I've seen this.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: There's a big hive about Gen Z.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like a large percentage of like young people are bird watching that is like the biggest rising hobby.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's become and I honestly believe as well, I think it is because of like the use of Instagram and TikTok, and like there's a lot of trendy bird watching stuff going on there.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um there's a big culture in London where like getting outdoors, hiking, and bird watching, it's become cool.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's like what people want to do instead of like day drinking now, they want to go for, especially if you hit around like maybe your late 20s, early 30s.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's like I don't want to club anymore, I want to go to a bird walk, like you know, a social bird walk.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Because there's a social aspect to it as well.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, definitely.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, people want to meet other people, but you don't want to be maybe spending lots of money or maybe even drinking, like you just want wholesome, real connection.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: What better ways to do it with like burn bird watching?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: So true.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you can have some really like random experiences with like birdwatching.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: It makes you meet random people, takes you to random spaces.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any like memories connected to nature that like really stand out for you?
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like places or people that you've been with where you go, oh, that was really meaningful.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there's so many.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Doing my traineeship with the London Wildlife Trust, because that was my first time kind of seeing other young people in nature.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: So this was around four years ago, five years ago now, maybe.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and the London Wildlife Trust used these traineeships to get people like involved in nature and like to help them like have a like step in the door in the career of like conservation.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, and it's aimed at young people, and just seeing other young people, and I think we're doing like a volunteering day.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: That for me really stood out for me, not because of the wildlife, because of the people.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: It was like a big eye-opener for me.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's like wow, there are other young people and people of colour interested, like urban people, it's not interested in it's not just me, because up until that moment, I really thought it was just me.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I had never come across other young people or people from the city like wanting to work in wildlife conservation.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, it was really difficult for me to find other people I could relate to.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, that was a big eye-opener.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_03: Also, I did um voluntary work on SCOMA Island in Wales.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely phenomenal and seen puffins for the first time.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_03: I saw, I think it was the first time I also saw seals.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: I hadn't seen seals prior to that.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't even know we had them in the UK.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: Also, a really memorable moment um whilst I was on like volunteering on SCOMA Island was um we were riding a little dinghy boat.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Don't know what we're doing on there, maybe doing a survey.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_03: And these bottlene bottlenose dolphins started bow riding.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's like when they come really close to your boat and they're using the waves to help them glide along in the water, let's say.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: And they were literally arm's length away from me, and I've never seen dolphins before.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: It was my first time to so to then see them like super up close within like arm's reach, and for them like that, it's like it's not like we like um lured them in, like they are using us to help them go with the waves, so it was beautiful.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: That moment was um yeah, really special.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: A big up Scoma Island, they had so much wildlife.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: I love them.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: I love Squir Island, I need to go back.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've not done any of the like islands on Scotland either.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: You need to go Wales as well, so underrated as a like as with the wildlife and and and just the views that you get there, Pembrokeshire, South Wales.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just phenomenal.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: I like what you say about feeling am I the only one that likes this thing and in this realm?
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're really nice actually when I joined the Wildlife Trust, we they have like an out for nature group, which is like they've actually got quite a lot of different groups, but I joined this one, it's all LGBTQ plus people, and the it's like an internal thing that we do.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: But it was really nice because it was like, oh, actually, there's like 46 Wildlife Trusts, I think, and even just knowing that there are people like me in the trust, let alone like there'll be even more, was like really kind of refreshing and and makes you feel like you know, you do you do belong there.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it is really important to have th those types of groups or events where it is like centering marginalised communities.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, because then it just makes you feel like yeah, you like you belong.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's like a good question.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_03: And how do we encourage like other communities to join?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: Or what is it that is because I think a big misconception as well, and I've heard it like said to me, it's like but black and brown people don't enjoy, let's say, like swimming, or they don't enjoy like spending time in nature.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's not part of our culture.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: Remember, that's what someone said to me at work, and I was just like, and I said, but like getting the benefits from nature is like something we're all wired to do, yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like as humans, you know, we're all wired to benefit from nature, we are part of nature, so yeah, I think it's good that we have those types of again, those type of events or or groups, or um maybe like courses or traineeships where yeah, it helps marginalized communities get involved.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, maybe.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any advice for anyone listening who has maybe like never gone bird watching before but wants to give it a go?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just do it.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like don't think about, don't overthink it.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um you can do it, you don't even need to leave your house.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like you really can just open the window if you live even in like a tower block, a big block, like open your window and look up.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: As long as there's sky above you, like you you can watch, you can see birds.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and even if you live in a city or or places where you think there's no nature, like there are there are birds everywhere.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, when I was getting into wildlife conservation, I was like, but I need to go like really far to see like really cool wildlife.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: And then I discovered birds, and that that was such a big eye-opener for me because they're everywhere.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it makes it really accessible, isn't it?
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_02: Robins, oh I love robins.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: They're the little cutest little guys, and whatever I see, they're so like characterful as well, and just I don't find them like very shy.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're very much they want to be around you, be next to you.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yes and um, yeah, whenever there's a robin, particularly like I don't know, around Christmas time, it makes me feel like super cozy.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: I love the and I feel like they've got such carrots on.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they kind of know that they're yeah, sassy, like they know that they're stuff, you know.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like they I love a robin.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_03: I I I have um a like a young robin in my garden at the moment, which doesn't look anything like a robin.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's like it kind of looks more like a wren, like a bigger wren.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's all brown, um, but it's just a shape that gives it away as a robin.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, it's just it's already so curious.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's it's a baby and it's literally coming up to my feet and it's like watching me and yeah, hopping around.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_03: I I love I love a robin.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's really cute.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: We actually uh have Robin Fest in December.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, we do like a weekend of events around like celebrating the Robin and it ties into like Christmas time.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, my name's Joy Little, and I'm the Events and Experiences Manager at Yorkshire Wildlife Trust.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Did you know the Robin Festival is just one of five festivals that Yorkshire Wildlife Trust organised.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: We also host Grand Nest Fest, Puffin Festival, and Fungi Fest, which celebrate some of Yorkshire's most beloved species, as well as our annual food festival, which takes place at our Stirly Hub just outside Huddersfield.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: We've also got a packed year-round events program to help you experience and discover the best of Yorkshire's wildlife.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Our experts can take on an expedition to explore the world of fungi, identify species of birds, and even discover more about Yorkshire's very own lands and spurn point.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: We've got after dark adventures to seek out glow worms, lobsters, fungi under UV light, and bats.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe join us simply to marvel at wildlife enjoying our reserves, the mesmerising display of a starling memoration, the sweet serenade of a dawn chorus, or flammers seabird city at dusk.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: And anyone that does actually want to maybe like buy binoculars, what are the binoculars that you have?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I would say don't invest a lot of money if you're first starting.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: You don't you don't need that really good binoculars.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, my first pair were I think from eBay and they were unbranded.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: So have a look on like secondhand eBay or secondhand wherever, ask around as well, because a lot of people have old binoculars, like vintage binoculars lying around.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: And I think those ones cost me about 20 pounds for it, but and they're my favourite binoculars.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: As well, also if you're someone like who's clumsy like me, like dropping your binoculars or leaving them in the bird hand is not gonna be like a huge stress for you.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: But if you invest, let's say 600 pounds in binoculars, which a lot of like bird watchers do, don't know.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: For me, it's just too much of a bigger sociability.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: I would say also download like an app that helps you to identify birds, the Merlin app.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: That one's really really helpful.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um so if you hear a bird, you don't know where it is, then you can download this app and it records and tells you where it is.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: My mum loves that app.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_03: She's does she?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she like recently discovered it and she'll stand at the bus stop going to work and she just gets the app out, and then she was like, Oh, it's like the bus stop when I'm leaving work, it's got different birds around it than the one out like in our village where I'm and I was like, Yeah, it's really cool.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: She's just like never really been into like nature before, but like those things like the Merlin app or having like a cheap pair of binoculars really helps you like discover what's on your doorstep, which I think is really cool.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, or at least just like see something new in a place that you've lived, like my parents have been there since like 1995.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: But she's discovering new things because she's like looking at nature in a different way, it's really sweet.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: It makes it accessible, definitely.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: The investment that quite like a lot a lot of young people have in nature at the minute is is really exciting.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: It is, isn't it?
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's become a new new trend, which I love.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's like always wholesome trends like connect to nature, and and um and everyone does it in their own way, you know.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: And that's the thing as well, like it doesn't have to look like anything, it doesn't even have to be bird watching, it could literally just be I don't know.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Let's say you're a painter, you're someone who enjoys painting, but you decide your painting is is centered around nature or something you've seen out in nature, or you just go outside and you paint.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like that is nature connection for me, or you like baking, but then you bake, I don't know, to raise funds for a certain charity, or I don't know, you just find your way.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't need to be the traditional.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we actually have someone in the team who worked on the Pete team, her name's Lucy, and she created kind of like slow fashion videos all about like how you like shop sustainability, and then she linked that to her work as like a monitoring officer in conservation, and she's like done really well with that sort of content, which is nice.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: So that's her route, and so there's so many routes into it.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: You could be into fashion, you could be into makeup, you could work at the post office, be a bus driver, be a doctor, like there will be somewhere where you can make a difference for nature because no matter what you do, like what we eat, what we wear, yeah, the the music we listen to, everything can be traced back to nature.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: Everything.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_03: So no, yeah, no matter what kind of sector you're working in or what your interests are, find a way.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like now is the time to find a way to link it to nature and do something for good.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's a really good message.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: Talk to me about how you like actually make a video because I don't know, some people get like really nervous about having like their phones out and recording, like how do you like push through that?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what are you doing?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, me too as well.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_03: And also I hate recording like when anyone's around.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, like a lot of my videos are like I'm always looking around and I'm nervous.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and voiceovers as well.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: I always make sure everyone's out my house.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_03: So like everyone's going to work, and then I'm doing a voiceover.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I'm still really shy.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, and that's also a big misconception is that content creators are people like very confident, but actually being on camera is like still quite nerve-wracking for me, especially the other people around.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh like I don't use anything, just my my iPhone.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: Don't even have a camera, just use my iPhone, put it on selfie mode, and yap away.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: And then you're there.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: You're there, yeah.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yap away, and then I edit it, cut things out, cut all the ums and ahs and uh yeah, and then um pop it all together, put subtitles and post post it online.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's great.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's nice because it's like I think even just hearing that from someone who makes videos makes it like something that's quite attainable and achievable for you to just get up and do it, right?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need fancy editing apps, you don't need anything like that.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: No, I use a free app, cut things out, and I would say as well, I've learned that um with content creating, it's not even how good you are, like uh video editing.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's just like people being authentic.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that's what really sucks because there's a lot of like uh pages that I follow.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't say the editing skills are bad, but they're not um over posed or over like curated, but because the person is just being themselves and it's so authentic, they have lots of followers or lots of engagement, people can relate to that, and I think that's more important, don't overthink like it looking perfect or you having to have like good clothes or good lighting or look amazing, like no, just be yourself.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: But I think people connect to that the most.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any like favourite kind of smaller like insects or flora and fauna that you're interested in?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I wouldn't say like again, like I don't I couldn't tell you like lots of facts, but some uh an insect that really interests me.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I can figure a few now, but ants.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know since I was little, it's just another kind of thing that yeah, helps my mind.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_03: But watching ants and my camera was full of them.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, if there was ants here, I'd probably yeah, be staring at that because I don't know what it is.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: I just maybe it's that they have a lot of like um interest in social behaviours as well.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and again, we'll never really know why they do certain things.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh a butterfly, I think it was a red admiral or just or a painted lady.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: It was a flash I just saw of a butterfly.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Flash of red.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, flash of red.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_03: And when you sometimes see like an ant hill and then there's loads of them and they're carrying things, and then they're talking to each other with their little antennae, like I just want to know what what are you up to?
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: What's driving you to do that?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I love it, I love ants, and I love moths as well.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, moths are so cool.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: Moths, they're so just underrated, you know, like they're just beautiful.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't been to one yet, but some of the events that the that we run at the trust is like a throffy, coffee, mothy morning.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so they've like cut they've done like moth trapping the night before.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I love that.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: And then you get to sit around and like look at the moths together.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: This is my type of morning.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Pretty cool, right?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, I wish I could start every morning doing that.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm still yet to get a moth trap.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: I want to yeah, start moth trapping.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: Same, so do I.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, have a look at moths.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: By the way, moth trapping is ethical, like you're not like trapping them and they're not dying.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like you release them.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, I would love to.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: I want to see like all the hawk moths, you know, we've got really beautiful elephant hawk moths.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_02: And like the size and like the like intricacy of like the patterns on them.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: So beautiful.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: So beautiful.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, moths and ants.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I think for anyone listening who thinks like, oh, where do I see these or what do you do?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: There's loads of like obviously the Wildlife Trust is spread all across the UK.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so, like I said, about the events that we do, there are there are like similar events from Wildlife Trust and other charities that like help you find those things or help you look at those things, which is nice.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: I know I can speak for the London Wildlife Trust, they have loads of events for people to go and um yeah, to look at these things, moth trapping, yeah, lots of interesting, lots of interesting stuff going on in the reserves that people don't know about.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: And also, I'm sure if you just type like moth trapping into Instagram or TikTok, it'll come up.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: The content will be there.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: There'll be someone doing moth, yeah, moth moth trapping or doing like a coffee morning.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, there are ways definitely to reach it, I think.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, well, it's been really lovely chatting with you.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um I've just got two questions to finish off.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: The first one is um, what do you hope for the future of nature?
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_02: So imagine we're here in a hundred years' time.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: What do you hope we're seeing, what's around, and like where is where has nature got to?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, that's such a big, profound question.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, I wish it's improved.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: I wish we hear things that have disappeared and see things back that have disappeared.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: Say like the cuckoo, like I would love to this is a perfect, this is the perfect place to hear a cuckoo, by the way.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to hear the cuckoo.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: Even the nightingale as well.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: This is the perfect place to see.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_03: Nightingales are non-existent here.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: So in a hundred years' time, I would love to come back and hear these beautiful see these beautiful creatures that were once here.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: Apparently, as well, glow worms used to be really common here in this area.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in stuff like stag beetles as well.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_03: Very common to um, yeah.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to see, I would love to see things make a comeback.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_03: Be flourishing.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: Be flourishing throughout all the seasons.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_03: I would love this to not look so brown, like not so not so burnt.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_03: I would love it to be a bit more like lush and green.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's really.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: How about you?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: What would you like to see?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: I think that species thing is really exciting.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: I was talking to um a colleague and they really want like um like the Dalmatian pelican to come back to Yorkshire.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: And like, you know, like big animals like a bison, or like beavers, is their land.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: It was always their nature, and we've kind of taken that away from them.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: So we're actually getting that for them.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: But I also think like large-scale nature recovery, so like at the minute, one of the kind of trust's main ambitions is to like have 30% of Yorkshire managed or like owned for nature and rewilded uh by 2030, which does seem kind of ambitious.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was really ambitious.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're on 11% at the minute or 13%.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: So it is really ambitious, but the I'd really like that number to be bigger and to be like massive by in a hundred years' time, like I mean a hundred percent would be crazy.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: But I think like But it would also be like really awesome because I think like realistically, like this is this is their world and we're living in it, and we've taken it away from from wildlife.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_03: I agree, and we've had our fun, like if you can call it fun.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Some people call it we've had our fun, like we've what's that word?
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: Progressed.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm putting like quotations, as much as I think to the brink of like now we're seeing it's costing nature, and it and then it's gonna cost us, right?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's starting to cost us like there was a way that we were living in harmony with nature.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I if we can go back a bit to that, it will I think it will really benefit us.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's the thing, it will benefit us a lot.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: People don't think it will.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: They're really we're used to comfort in this way.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I agree.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then the final thing to leave rubbishes on is if you have kind of one takeaway, one around kind of um like bird watching and nature and being outdoors, and the other one around kind of like content creation and like engaging with communities.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_03: Don't overthink content creation, it's a powerful tool.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: Even if you have what some people might call a really bad quality camera phone, or knock your brick, use it somehow.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: Use it even if it's just to your friends and family because they're using social media, they're probably on Instagram or whatever, or Facebook, whatever they use it.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: You try try to spread the message on there or share other people's um content creating that's like spreading a good message.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, it's a powerful tool.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's yeah, it's not it's not all bad.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um and get outdoors, go explore your local your local patch, even if it is in a city and it's concrete, look on the floor.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_03: You might find a look a wildflower, find out what the name is, um, and yeah, start your journey from there.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_03: Don't overthink like nature connection.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't have to be anything complicated.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's an awkward bit where you like turn off the mic, but you're still in turn and turn off.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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