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Club 520 - DeMarcus Cousins on Anthony Davis & Pelicans, John Wall at Kentucky, GOAT John Calipari · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back at the episode of Club five twenty
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  Speaker 2: on Club five twenty special special guests. To my left,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna introduce my Man's last. To my far left,
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  Speaker 2: we got my dog Bishop be hearing out the pearles.
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  Speaker 3: How you went nasty cool? And next let's get to
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  Speaker 3: it this spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we started off signing with a bang baby because
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  Speaker 2: I know you keep it feat proper black forces with
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  Speaker 2: the white laces before.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, I haven't, but you know I'm not mad at it. Though,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't mad at it. What's that you were sixteen?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the sixteen. We'll get you together. I'm saying your
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  Speaker 1: prayer you feel me spress.
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  Speaker 3: He might gently rob you. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: No, Cuz could have got that out for today. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen cuz hoop.
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  Speaker 2: He got some moments where that black King jersey held
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  Speaker 2: for cowbos. If I write my dog young dot, y'all
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  Speaker 2: young team, how you are? I'm chilling bro, hYP bro
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fan of our guests. Bro, I'm so excited
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  Speaker 2: to hear man you're trying to get him on the
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  Speaker 2: show for a minute, So it's cool for sure. Hell yeah, Man, listen, Man,
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  Speaker 2: this episode we've been looking for a long time. Man
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  Speaker 2: wanted to call this big to every hoop. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Kentucky legend, big man, you know what
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  Speaker 2: it is. And Marcus Cousins big Cuse appreciate you sliding
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  Speaker 2: on his big dog.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, Thank you Man. I appreciate you'all boys
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  Speaker 1: having me Man. I love y'all platform. What y'all doing
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  Speaker 1: is dope as hell, and you know you got my
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  Speaker 1: full support. I appreciate any athlete that you know it's
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  Speaker 1: brave enough to go out and use his voice on
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  Speaker 1: every day basis.
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  Speaker 4: So I applaug you Bro.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate that. Bro.
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  Speaker 2: I just got one thing to say before we start.
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  Speaker 2: Be you and mellow for sure, Bro for real? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Heed the argument, that's argument, and that's dope.
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  Speaker 3: Platform.
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  Speaker 2: This for us is like we get you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, show love to people like we fucking because
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  Speaker 2: we really like basketball.
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  Speaker 3: But you were legit, legit one of his favorite players. Bro.
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  Speaker 3: So This is a dope moment just happened. Man, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: aciure for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Bro, Let's get this ship.
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  Speaker 3: Crack man.
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  Speaker 2: We're already in Vegas. It's one hundred and eighty five
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  Speaker 2: degrees in the morning. Shots, everybody in Vegas. Hold it down.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all got the toughest scale earth. For sure. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: take it back in high school days. Man.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, growing up where you you
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  Speaker 2: was that dude, where you was at? How was it
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  Speaker 2: to you know what I'm saying, to be the point
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  Speaker 2: to where you part of that like inaugural Kentucky recruitment situation.
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  Speaker 4: Damn, you know it was dope, bro.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was even more special because the
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  Speaker 1: group that was coming in, like you know how we
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  Speaker 1: came in, you know, from our background. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: different types of kids that you know coming to you know,
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  Speaker 1: that collegiate level. And yeah, it just so happened that
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  Speaker 1: we were, you know, really really similar and me John
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  Speaker 1: and Eric, so uh, you know, it was really dope
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  Speaker 1: to to go into a situation that we really didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what we were getting ourselves into because originally our
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  Speaker 1: plan was to go to Memphis.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, we were we were Memphis kids, like
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  Speaker 1: if that made sense, you know Dorsey, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for for things to kind of switch on
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  Speaker 1: the fly the way they did with Cayle, you know,
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  Speaker 1: making that move to Kentucky. I mean, obviously we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play for Cal, but you know, going to Kentucky
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  Speaker 1: in that in that moment in time when Kentucky was
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, it was still a very prestigious school.
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  Speaker 1: It was still you know, one of the most popular schools,
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  Speaker 1: but it was in a very you know low period
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  Speaker 1: when it came to you know, Tubby's last year's there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they weren't quite having the success and you
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  Speaker 1: know when it came to kids picking schools, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Memphis had just became the hot spot, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: Cayle leaving, so it was now where you know, kids
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  Speaker 1: were kind of trying to follow Cal.
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  Speaker 4: But outside of that, you know, it was the typical hotspots.
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  Speaker 1: Kansas Duke, uh, you know, Carolina was still you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very popular school, so uh, you know, the U.
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  Speaker 1: C l A U s see things like that. So
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky wasn't really ringing like it was in our time.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So for us to kind of go there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: just get that blood flowing, that blue blood flowing again,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it's for me. It's definitely one of
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  Speaker 1: the most special times in my life. When they came
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  Speaker 1: to playing basketball. Uh, the way they accepted us, the
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  Speaker 1: way they embraced us, They allowed us to just be ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we went out there and we not
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  Speaker 1: only you know, won games for the university and the
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  Speaker 1: school and the fans, but you know, we set a
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  Speaker 1: standard that kind of was everlasting for that period of time.
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  Speaker 4: You know, caliperiod was there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know, we've had conversations with Kyle and
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  Speaker 1: you know he thanks us all the time because Kyle
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  Speaker 1: doing what he did. It took a special group like
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  Speaker 1: that to keep this, you know, for sure, that machine running.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, obviously we didn't win a championship, but
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  Speaker 1: you know the blueprint we kind of set for everybody
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  Speaker 1: coming behind us was you know, even more impactful than
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  Speaker 1: actually winning a championship. So we'll always have our special place,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in history when it comes to you know,
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  Speaker 1: that uk era so really dope, man, it was really dope.
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  Speaker 1: That twenty twelve team the ass though crazy that a
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  Speaker 1: little bro bro though, man, move my dog. I was
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  Speaker 1: kicking it with Moot during lockout years. Move a wild board?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: Who guard a d What? Who gonna guard him? Who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna guard him?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Who gonna guard him? He was the number one point
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  Speaker 1: guard to his class as well. Ship, We had the
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  Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft. Bro, what are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about?
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  Speaker 4: We had the number five. We matched up perfect.
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  Speaker 3: They had number two.
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  Speaker 1: I had a job.
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  Speaker 4: Gilly.
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  Speaker 3: They had T Jones.
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  Speaker 4: We had Patrick Patterson, they had T Jones.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good good What about the team with Cat
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  Speaker 2: and them? Though they had they had a whip they had.
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  Speaker 1: That might have been the most talented team to show
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  Speaker 1: that when they had like three starting five.
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  Speaker 3: Look off the business crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing about college, like you know you can
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  Speaker 1: always you know, sit there, but like, well we we
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  Speaker 1: the only team that want to chill.
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  Speaker 4: Well we always we know, like college, the best team
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  Speaker 4: don't always win.
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  Speaker 1: The best team that night went, so you know, it
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  Speaker 1: ain't necessarily the truth when it comes to, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: want to chip, the other team didn't.
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  Speaker 4: When we line that thing up, it's gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: All the way.
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  Speaker 2: I promise that's crazy. Y'all had that much talent go
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  Speaker 2: to that school, bro insane. And that's why I asked
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  Speaker 2: that question because now you see, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: Kyle rebranding himself in Arkansas kind of the same situation
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  Speaker 2: to where everybody was all right, Memphis was the standard.
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  Speaker 3: We saw de Rose su Aric all right, I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to be like that.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all set the tone for a lot of different things,
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  Speaker 2: and I think y'all deserve more flowers because y'all were
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  Speaker 2: really pioneers at the aspect of coming in and being
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  Speaker 2: that one and done situation that era like maybe not
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  Speaker 2: as culture like impactful it was like the Fab five,
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  Speaker 2: but y'all would like that for kids in that generation
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  Speaker 2: to come and actually play together for a common goal
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  Speaker 2: because y'all play for each other absolutely, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: never see too many recruits and y'all stature at that
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  Speaker 2: Todd period who.
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  Speaker 3: Was doing that. So that's what super dope.
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  Speaker 2: And I know, obviously you can tuck it to the core,
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  Speaker 2: But how is it now to see Kyle knows and
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  Speaker 2: get the wheels back rolling in a different situation.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that's Kyle let's kind of expect it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've got the utmost respect for Kyle, just
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  Speaker 1: the way he carries himself, the way he goes about business,
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  Speaker 1: the way he approaches relationships with you know, the people
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  Speaker 1: that he choose to have relationships with. So I appreciate,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everything that comes with Kyle. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: to see him go to the next program and in
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  Speaker 1: the first year obviously they haven't played yet with but
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  Speaker 1: just with the talent that he's brought in and just
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  Speaker 1: this short amount of time shows you the impact that
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  Speaker 1: Kyle has put on college basketball. So he's well respected
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  Speaker 1: with each generation, you know, and sometimes coaches kind of
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  Speaker 1: get lost in the generations. This guy has found a
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  Speaker 1: way to flow through each generation and actually be successful
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  Speaker 1: within those generations. And success isn't just winning the championship,
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  Speaker 1: cous Like I said, it's the best team that night wins.
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  Speaker 1: Like so you can't determine success off you know, necessarily
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  Speaker 1: championships in college because it's that hard to win, and
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  Speaker 1: on any given night, it's anybody's night. So I hate
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  Speaker 1: that narrative when they try to well he's only got
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  Speaker 1: this many, but you know, it's it's bigger than that
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to college basketball. For sure, he changed
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  Speaker 1: many families.
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  Speaker 4: Lives Bootley bro.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I've been on record, you know, talking
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  Speaker 1: about that conversation, but just him with me deciding to
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  Speaker 1: go to the NBA and the conversation we had, it's
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  Speaker 1: just like, look and in my mind, I'm like, coach,
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm trying to come back.
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  Speaker 4: I want to win a chip in.
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  Speaker 1: College, like you know, you you feel that way, you
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  Speaker 1: means in love with the place, like you you really
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  Speaker 1: want to win for that university. So that's where I
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  Speaker 1: was at the end of the season, and Cal's like, look, dude,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to take care of my family, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna stay.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to take care of yours, you out
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  Speaker 4: of you. It's real. That's all I needed to hear. Real,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So real.
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  Speaker 1: And it takes a coach like that to understand both
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  Speaker 1: sides of this thing, because you know, we've all heard
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  Speaker 1: the horror stories of coaches holding guys back, like and
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  Speaker 1: they missed that opportunity to get to that next level
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: because it's not always guarantee you could just come back
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  Speaker 1: and then you the the hot thing that's not how
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  Speaker 1: it works when you hot and they like you, you
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  Speaker 1: have to you know, because that next year then they
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: start picking you apart. Well, he can't do this necess
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  Speaker 1: you know, so it gets a little tougher, you know,
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  Speaker 1: going year to year. So, uh, Kyle understands that, he
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  Speaker 1: unders he understands both sides. He knows how to remain
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  Speaker 1: successful with you know, doing what he does, and he
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  Speaker 1: knows how to make these guys that play for him
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  Speaker 1: become successful long time.
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  Speaker 4: And that's really what it's about.
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  Speaker 3: That's real. I gotta ask.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we know you know what I'm saying, you as
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  Speaker 2: well take care of the guards how he's gonna take it.
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  Speaker 2: But imagine now if y'all have had the official official
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  Speaker 2: n Il situation, Oh my god, I would have stayed
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  Speaker 2: four years. How much you think you would have got,
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  Speaker 2: especially in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man, And it's not necessar seriously, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think we was the hot ship. I put timing
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  Speaker 1: into it and everything, just the timing of it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: us kind of being that team that lifts Kentucky back
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  Speaker 1: up out of the shadows.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to say.
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  Speaker 1: In facts, how much these kids getting I saw what's
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  Speaker 1: the big king from Kansas got two million. Yeah, crowd
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  Speaker 1: of got five him.
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  Speaker 3: Transfer is crazy, y'all say y'all getting If you.
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  Speaker 2: Would have came back for your sophomore season, you would
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  Speaker 2: have got five million.
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  Speaker 4: Is what I'm getting from my junior season.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, you ain't gonna be there. Yeah, I get more
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  Speaker 1: than the rookie contract. Why not.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be the top five regardless.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't even gonna let you stayed at that long. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I won't let you stay for you. You're really out
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  Speaker 1: of pocket.
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  Speaker 3: For one.
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  Speaker 1: You damn are really too old to okay money? Want
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  Speaker 1: to be rich?
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  Speaker 2: I ain't, but I was like, you really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be twenty four original college came go to the leaking
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  Speaker 2: where its friend tripping.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't never rich enough to pass up on no money,
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that you had. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: that's it. That's all for you. You was the number one
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  Speaker 1: pick regardless. You know what I'm saying, My number one pick, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: outside of John, you was gonna go number one.
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  Speaker 4: Nah, I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't because you left with him. You was definitely
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  Speaker 1: the running for number one pick. Yes, Bro, if you
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  Speaker 1: would have came back that next year.
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  Speaker 4: That's how it ended up coming out.
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  Speaker 1: But for me, it was, you know, me going into college,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't the guy where it was like, oh, he's guaranteed.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't my position, like it ended up happening for
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  Speaker 1: me throughout the season. Me initially, it's like I got
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  Speaker 1: comfortable in that situation. After we lost, It's like I'm
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  Speaker 1: comfortable here, like also I want to win, like and
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  Speaker 1: then for me the NBA, it was just I never
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  Speaker 1: really thought I was ready, Like you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I knew I was talented, but I'm looking at guys
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  Speaker 1: like Ben Wallace and Ship I'm like, man, I ain't
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  Speaker 1: got a chance in hell, bro.
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  Speaker 4: You know what he's looking at? These are huge, bro crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So that was never really my reality.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, by the end of that year, things
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  Speaker 1: changed for me, And like I said, the conversation definitely
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  Speaker 1: put things into perspective for me with Kyle, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I made that jump. Who would you mind of your
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  Speaker 1: game after though?
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  Speaker 3: Growing up?
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  Speaker 1: Because to me, I feel like you was one of
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  Speaker 1: the first stretch bigs that could really handle the ball,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't really know anybody before you that could
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  Speaker 1: really play outside the three point line. For me, I
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: kind of say, my game it's like a mutt, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I never had a favorite
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: team growing up. I'm from Alabamat, we don't have a especially,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: so I had a lot of favorite like favorite players,
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  Speaker 1: So it's obviously my My number one was Carmelo Anthemy.
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  Speaker 3: Like I could see that the way he moved with
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  Speaker 3: the ball, like.
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  Speaker 1: His size, the physicality, the finesse, the combination of both.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I fell in love with it. Amaro stot
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  Speaker 1: him out of the same type guy that obviously. I
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  Speaker 1: love Shaq with just his dominance and the intimidation that
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  Speaker 1: he played with. I love Power Gasol with his grace,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: like just the way and the way he thought the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he didn't rely on just athleticism. So you're
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  Speaker 1: definitely a mutt. Yeah you know what I'm saying. You know,
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  Speaker 1: And I had the opportunity to you know, being Amar's
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  Speaker 1: camps growing up as a kid, So I got to
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  Speaker 1: know Amar even the hot socks I took that you
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  Speaker 1: know from a Marion Moll like young Mello, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got a chance to pick his brain as a
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  Speaker 1: young kid, which you know, really helped. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I could see the way he used his feet more
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  Speaker 1: so than you know, his his uh, his just usual athletics,
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  Speaker 1: and it was more in the feet with getting around
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  Speaker 1: people and being crafty with that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I just took a lot of things that I saw.
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  Speaker 1: From from players that I liked, and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just kind of combineded into my game and he's with
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  Speaker 1: the results of it.
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  Speaker 3: It was a monster, bro. He came on the scene
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  Speaker 3: as a rookie and was dominant.
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  Speaker 2: Like damn, I used to say when we played him, like, man,
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  Speaker 2: he get in shape because the rookie year used to
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: get tired. I'm like, if he get in shaved, he
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: gonna average thirty. Like he's too good. And I remember
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: her for saying this motherfucker is nice. He's nice, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, like, out on customer. He was like, he's nice, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: he's nice. He was like, man, we got to stay
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: away from him. He got stay in the West. We
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: got staying on.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm saying. He nice to me. He really nice, though.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate me and I'll definitely have some battles, yeah
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, he wasn't telling me that now.
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  Speaker 3: Get in the locker room, He's like, now he's nice, bro.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: That's because that's how I felt about John, Like, you
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: know when you come in the league, I'm like, man,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: he ain't about to do all that running fast. The
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: first game had he had his best game against stuff.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: It was like the second game and the ear think
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: he had like twenty five and like ten. I was like, yep,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I stayed away from that light. Yeah, like that's crazy.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: That's probably one of the few people league who was
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: probably just as fast as not faster than you. Yeah,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: but he had rebox on so I was like, nah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I ain't know you about to get busy, and them
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: he got busy though. That's the funniest The rebouked era
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that was y'all was the last era of the Nasty
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: team a U shual You had to rebox with the Adidas,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: with the pro ball pat leathers. Yeah, it was bad Toments,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: but we definitely came up in the Nasty year all
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: We had Rachis.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, classic, you gotta respect it. And it was
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: y'all had y'all was Kentucky. Y'all had that ship ship Yeah. Yeah,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: they used to have the long shorts. I went to
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: wake for it used to be jealous because they shorts
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: came down to their calf. They had that is at
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: his shoelaces. I'm like, he Wilent getting busy.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what it should man?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Like you said you you were going through the process,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: like all right, how can I compete with these guys?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: And then you go and now it's like, all right,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I'm in the league and I'm doing what the I
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: was supposed to do. How is that moment you got
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: set set in the Sacramento like getting to being an
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: NBA pro?
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: How did I get settled into it?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Or just how did the conference? Like all right, I'm
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I'm here, like I ain't. I ain't question. I'm here.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be here.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: It started with me in practice, honestly. And I'm a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: guy that like I build off moments, you know what
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I mean. And once I surpassed that, I don't really
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: look back, Like I don't even take time to really
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: appreciate this. It's on to the next, like you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: what what can I do next? So? Uh, and I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: plan on. You know, I enjoyed the fruit of my
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: level at the end. You know what I'm saying. So
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: with that being said, it started in practice, you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and I had a really good defensive big as in
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: my rookie year and Samuel Dallenberg. He was older, but
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he was you know, he was really good defensively. He
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: was smart, and you know, playing against him every day
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like if I can, if I could fry him, don't
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: nobody else really got a chance, Like and obviously it
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: was guys you know that were better defensively, but you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: for him to be my test every single day, you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: for a full season, that was you know, that was
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: like great, you know, target practice for me. So it
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: started there and then you know, with just each game
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I built, you know, my confidence grew. And you know
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it was also kind of hard because I had a
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: coach that was not fucking.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: With me at all.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: We see, he wasn't really fucking with anybody.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: At the time.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It was Paul west Full So he was like he
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: he never wanted me to shoot the ball. He didn't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: even want the ball in my hands, which you know
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I thought was you know, crazy. But and it's kind
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of weird because in a way, you know they're dog
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you're up and say you ain't coachable when you don't
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: do what the coach tells you. But let's say I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: was culturable in that situation where with my career have gone,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean it could
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: have been short. I could have been a completely different player,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like you know, the opportunity could have whatever. It's It's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of hypotheticals, but you know that just you know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: things I kind of think about in those type situations.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But as far as just continuing my growth, it started
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: in practice, and you know, it carried over the games,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and with each game I got better.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm facing these guys that I grew.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Up watching, you know, I'm like, I'm really frying these niggas,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, and you know, once
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I just got to that level of you know, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm the best player on the floor every night.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You know, it was really no looking back for me,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, you know that was my mindset every night.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to kill what was ever in
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: front of me. And it didn't really matter who it
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: was who got at you though, your plenty plenty, who
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: was that one one that really like, oh damn, I'm cooking.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: But he tearing my ass up.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I got a long list bro, uh TD,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Tim Duncan Man, he's a mute killing yeah man t
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: d uh KG No, I mean towards the end for KG,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really you know, a bucket getter like KG
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: was like a talker. Yeah, he was the ultimate team guy.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: You know, he kind of finished. They put the ball
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in his hands at the end of the game sometimes
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: him and Pete Paul Pierce, so it was kind of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: like that situation, but he wasn't necessarily the guy getting
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: it every possession. So not not KG, but z Bo
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: for shows, z Bow fried my ass a few times.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: That's that's always been, you know, a fun matchup for
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: me legend absolutely huh. Andrew Bianny and he was big
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: as ship Bro. Andrew was the fun me up bro.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You call Andrew Bynum before he tweaked out, yea was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: by them, was really good. He was early in my career.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: He was young, super young to us. Yeah he was.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: He was going back at shock Bro, did you play ship?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I did?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Shack almost broke my motherfucking back pause. But Shack was
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: in his last that was his last season with the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Shaq was like four fifty out there, bro, Like he
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't even moving Like, and I went to go for
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a rebound, I jumped backwards.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I just felt like I ran into a wall and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: my whole back cracked. Like I just laid on the floor. Bro. Like,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: man just contemplating, like do I really want to do this? Ship?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But that time him and Nate was wild and Bro,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: he picked Nate up in the game against IT.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: They was beating us so bad in Atlenta. He picked
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Nate up.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: In the game.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I say him do that in practice? I don't
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in the games have passed me the ball picked him up?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I said, Man, what is his niggas homework?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: That's what bro?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I was like, Bro, what pick this bet up in
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: a game? Bro?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've definitely got my fair shire. Hell yeah, that's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the league. Bro. I don't think it's nobody come through
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the league. But like, ye know, I've never had a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: bad night or a motherfucker ain't never fried me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: That's cal It's like you.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Ain't playing enough.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: You're not play Yeah, that's not possible, Bro, You're gonna
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: have a bad night for sure.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to ask this and this is one
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: of my favorite gifts means of all time. The post
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: game interview when they asked you about the official you said,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it's got but my favorite gift means of all time.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It's used for all the wrong ship. But that's one
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: of my favorite things about I've got for you. I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: had to ask you about how is that? Because he
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: was in a moment he was like, man, this is
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a bullship. But to get to see it every use
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Now, how is that? Man? Because you like, I'm moralized.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: With that one, Bro, Jeff, you know, bro coming on
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: man like it's like an unwritten thing. Man.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: They be on bulld shit now, you know.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: You know the league pushing narratives, bro, you know, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's you know, we need this team to get
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: by or we aren't really concerned about this team winning
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: right there. So you know, it was one of them moments.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't really happy about it, bro, like, like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: let let us play ball, Like, let us play ball,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: like at the end of the day. And you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I hate when they kind of you know, overrep for
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know, want to control the game too much. Then
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: they take the game out of the player's hands. So
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it was kind of one of those moments for me.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to basketball, bro, like what
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: makes it fun is that you know the way people
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: express themselves and you know, the different emotions that you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: get throughout the game. Like that's what made us fall
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in love with the game from the beginning. So and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: obviously the NBA is a business. And not only is
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it a business, it's a billion so it's it's up there.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of you know, qualities that have
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to go into you know, being a worker of the NBA.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: So with that being said.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like a fine line between
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you know, the raw foundation of basketball and you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: incorporate business into it as well. So for guys that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: fell in love with the game, you know naturally organically,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of hard to translate, you know
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: The entertainment aspect kicking. Yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So for me, like when I step on the floor, bro,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: my number one purpose is I don't want to go
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: win the game. Like I'm gonna show every expression when
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about the player. You gonna see that. When
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm upset, you might see that, you know, if I'm frustrated.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You might see that, and that's just kind of how
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: sports go. It's it's full of emotions. Those emotions also
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: get you over the lump, you know what I mean,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: those emotions that that digging deep, like I'm not going
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to allow this this player to score me. Those type
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of emotions help you perform. So you know, once you
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: start trying to make that out of the game, it's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: hard for gods to translate because you know, some guy's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: feed off that. And then it's it's all the athletes
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that you know, naturally nonchalant like this.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Motherfucker, they don't really give them and that talented enough
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: to you know, get by with oh yeah I care.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But man, it's you know, I like, at the end
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of the day, like I appreciate you know, every way,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, this game, this
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: sport is an art, Like how have you decided to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: express your art?
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Like that's how you do it? You're an artist.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So you know, that's the part of the game that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: kind of frustrates me when it comes to, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the business and the raw foundation for sure.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Because Dre was on yesterday and he was talking about life.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, when you're doing that and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you're win it, it's passionate. It's all these good things
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that it's not as perceived as, oh, he's a problem,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: he can't control thisself. It's just like the same things
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to help me win the same thing. You criticize me
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: for what you want me to do in the situation.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: But we always talked very highly at this team that
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: she was on. Man, y'all, Pelskin squad was so nice.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I had one of the most underrated rosters of all time.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: How that link up happened? Which part the beginning you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: just even thinking about going there? I wasn't thinking about
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it. It happened like, Yeah, I wasn't thinking about it at all.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I got traded, you know, during the All Star Game
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: right after, so you know that happened, and you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I was at the point in my career. You know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I was in Sacramento for six and a half years,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Almo seven years, and you know, I was frustrated.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I want to help.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted another guy on my caliber, Like I just
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: wanted something to help me, you know, get over that hump.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I was really passionate about winning. I wanted to be
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that guy to you know, take them out of their
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: losing years, all of those things. But it just didn't happen,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and Bro, it would get to the point where I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: would just go home and pray, like, Bro, just send
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: me some help, like anybody, and you know, you ask
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: for things, they you know it'll happen, but not necessarily
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: in the form you expected.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: So I ended up, you know, getting traded.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And initially when I'm on the phone with my agent
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Rest in Peace, Dan Fagan, and he's like, you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: we could beat over the trade.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: We could tell him we're not.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Showing whatever whatever, And in that moment, I'm like, damn,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Anthony Davis like and I'm like, I've been asking to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: play you know a guy that's similar talent, Like they
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: can help me get over the hump. And I'm like,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily you know, a guaranteed thing that I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: can get to a spot with that type of help
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: or that can help me, you know, continue to be
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: successful in my career.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, fuck it, we're gonna make this shit work, right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And I knew I already knew a d I knew
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that you know, the different you know, the skills said
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that he had you know, he could do a lot
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of different things with the basketball.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: So with that alone, I was intrigued and I'm like.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: We can definitely make some shit yas cold and it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: would take and you know, coming in, I'm like, you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: we gotta figure each other out and that that first
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: half a season that we played, it wasn't that successful,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but we had a lot of good moments, and you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: know that was good enough for me.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Oh, We're gonna definitely make this shit work.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We got an all season to kind of get some
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: guys in here to compliment us, so I think we
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: can make some things work. And Uh, on top of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: all of that, we had the perfect coach and Avin Gentry,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: who was you know, super open minded. You know, he
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: was a free flow type of coach.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: He was a coach I would say is all about
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: control chaos. If that makes sense, Yeah, for sure. So
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he allowed me and they need to you know, get
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a rebound and push and initiate the offense. Uh, we
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: also have to you know, compliment Raison and Drew because
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: those guys with the ultimate teammates would allowing us elite
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of what they do, but also allowing us to flourish
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: on what we do, and it took guys like them
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to you know, be unselfish and also understand the bigger
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: picture on what we were trying to do to be
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: okay with that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: It was it was.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Times Rondo would get a rebound and throw me the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: ball to bring it up like so we had that
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: type of chemistry and obviously it was short lived, but man,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it definitely could have been a beautiful situation.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I could have won the ship, bro man, And honestly,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Think it was happening that that year that you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I blew my achilles, But you know, down the line,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I definitely thought we had a chance to be a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: special team. We definitely needed, you know, more shooters to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of help us out and open the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: floor for us. But we definitely had the foundation in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the quarter, you know.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Shape.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I always tell the story when we played, y'all, I
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: remember you just talking shit to me. He was like,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: why you ain't playing? I was sitting out one game.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: He was like, why you ain't playing? Like next time
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: we play? On playing?
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: He was like, you're scared of dope. He's scared of
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Dope's scared of dope. And I'm like what.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So we go to Minnesota. We laying, I'm on the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: cour I'm like, yeah, motherfucker. I was like, what's his
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: as he said, what, Bro, it's a picture Cat posting up.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: He looking at our bench like, Bro, crazy, So you're
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: behind that. It's him, Bro, you always you're being a
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: part of that. It's crazy, Bro, He's Cat's post mastermind.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: He's looking at I'm crying. Bro. I was like, hey,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Bro's crazy.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Didn't get on offense, like I told you, he started
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: on cuz cuz go to the basket catch just wrapping up.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: They like switchge dodge. He was like, he can't run tips,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: he gotta go on somebody.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I said, he's crazy. Wow, y'all be having like Kentucky
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: beef Man.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that for me. I got a lot of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: love for Cat, super talent. It man a really good play.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: You had a really good season this year too, shout
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out to him. But you know, for me and the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: time I was at, it was more so just coming
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: from a competitive nature. Like I said, when I stepped
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: on the floor, Bro, like I'm killing whatever in front
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: of you, and I want you to understand at the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: end of the game the difference between me and you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Like that was my mindset.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So nah, honestly, I was just trying to put Cat
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: in his place, Like in my mind, I felt like
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I was the best big in the league. And you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: it's also a form of a compliment because I know
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: how Tomergan you know, Katy is the fact that at
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that moment in time, Cat was considered one of the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: better guys in the league or a better big in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the league.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I'm you on my radar too, the same way I'm
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: on yours.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So when we match up, I'm gonna make sure I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: get the best of you and we win the game.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And you know that was that was my mindset.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I might have the best big lineage though I was
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: thinking about that in the college. Is Kentucky just you
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: can't be alone? Is that's crazy? Yeah?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, got big man you for sure.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from a big and also as we know from
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: a guard standpoint, it ain't too many people with Kentucky.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Now Kentucky.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's why go Bro's to go Bro like you. I mean,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like it's many forms of a go too Bro. Like
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: obviously he's not the most winning his coach, but his
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: impact on college bro changed untouchable. Like it's not many cops,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it's many forms, it's many for it is. But ain't
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: saying that many top players like that. He didn't. He
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of top Kentucky. Kentucky got way better
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: NBA players than du Oh yeah, Kentucky for sure.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: We can go from Cuz years on up.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: What what generation I'm saying because JT B and all
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: them after that, all them hard beat me down killers.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Because you got j T. Jabari, Uh Kyrie, r J.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Beard.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: We don't count Broky played two games one year. Bro,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: man what I'm talking, I'm taking Duke over all, telling Bro,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Devin Booker, him, John Wall it's along.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Listen as a Louisville Fair hurts me even pick you
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: on this side, but I have to pick you on that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's lets you know how much I funk
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: with Cal because I didn't care about this because he
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't know ship. But like, tell me, the might like it,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: but I like Cal because basketball. I'm about to make
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: sure that it don't matter what y'all do the next
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: four years of your life. Everybody about to be straight
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and not funk with that more than anything, because it's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: just like sports. Everybody about to be cool, and I'm
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: gonna make sure y'all cool. Yeah, y'all can put a
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: banner up my brother. Everybody mortgage just be taking care
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: of could never come.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Off the court.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Respect, No drake bars. He got a little of a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: bird on his arm. It's a slug it is. He's dedicated.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Why he do that? That's my Lady's for the family.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I ain't go there, hold on what. You don't even
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: know what Butler twice.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: For the family turned up.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Butler Bro's crazy man.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I aint gotta show back. That's crazy shouts about dog.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But now in the era, I'm saying, you see a
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: lot of crazy bigs, Like how is it now that
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you see like the beis kind of flourishing, like you
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: see you know what I'm saying, step back to see
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: that because I definitely feel like just you came a
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: little bit too early. Pause like you would have been
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: doing the same type of time, like you see a
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: being you shoe yo, like dominating the league at that position,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: getting m v P mitches one time. You know what
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, the big was respected, but it was kind
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: of like slighted with her numbers. Now it's like, okay,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: they leading away type shit.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: It's definitely, you know, an era thing.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I do feel I came in you know a little
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: early when they came to my skill set in the
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: way I played the game.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Like I said, when I.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Came in the league, my playing style wasn't really embraced
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: even when I went to college. Like you know, me
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and Kyle laugh about it all the time now, but
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: like Cayle, you lied to me, Bro, Like he told
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: me I was gonna be bringing the ball all the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: first practice, Bro, I tried to I got a rebound,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: tried to bring it up, I didn't turn it over,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and Kyle, what's the stop?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: He like, what the fuck are you doing? Like why
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: are you dribbling the ball?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I got the number one pick at point guard and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I got my fucking center.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Dribbling the ball.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: That's college And in my mind, I'm like, you're right,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you know, you dont do my thing. So it was
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like nah, like get your big ass hunder the basket
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and you know, try to catch love nigga. So you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: going into the league, it was it was similar. It
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was still it was still too bigs in the post
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: when I came into the league. You know, they were
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: really pushing, you know, you know, the jump hooks and
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: ship like that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: It wasn't.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the flashy layups and being crafted around the basket.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: That wasn't really embraced. And definitely shooting and ball handling,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't. So that's kind of why, you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I could see why west Fall wasn't really feeling me
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: either as a player. So you know, fast forward to now,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and you know, you see where it's basically the big
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: is initiating the offense, and yeah, no matter if they
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: can score it or not, the offense is initiated through
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the big. And it's just crazy to see the game
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: now developed into what was once upon, what was once
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: frowned upon, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's basketball. You started shipped off. And you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, we at the point now where guys don't
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: even know how to make a post pass. Like when
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I was growing up, that was actually a drill, like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you know, show how you know, drive to the elbow.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: He has to actually know how to make a post
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: pass for sure. That's something that's not even really tall anymore.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: So it just shows the evolution of the game.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: It's like now that even ridicule bigs you can't shoot.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It's like, bro, he supposed to.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: You can't hit the open three sit down, like, damn
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: not true. I remember when he started. I mean, you
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: was always capable of shooting threes, but I remember when
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you started shooting threes, like pulling up. I'm like, bro,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: he really going. I'm like everyone if he was back,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he was shooting like a guard. I ain't tripping like
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I shoot threes, bro, I ain't about to hesitate or nothing.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah, he got all the freedom in
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And I remember Alur said that, like, I gotta start
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: shooting threes, like that's where the game is going. That's
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: why I think ours real special because he always knew
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: where the game was going, always to say that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: He was like, brother, the game frek shows that, Yeah,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that's he's definitely shooting the cover.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: It's all he shooting nasty, disgusting, but we hit them
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: six pace. I said, what the fuck?
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I know the kind of damn six bro.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: You're not Kyle Cover.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Bro, I'm telling he is now.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Like, like you said, the biggest, it's the big era
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: right now. Like to see a guy like Zach Edy
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: get drafted but top ten, yep, and for people in
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: college and say, man, he can't play in this league.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: He can't do that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's another turn of the game because seeing
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: him go top ten lets me know we're going back
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to the big area.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Because I would have never thought Zach Edie was going
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: top ten but were slow. It's going first round.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And so when he got calls, oh, ship, but thought
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: but you see him and the guy from Yukon, I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: don't know the same for Shure, the big from kind
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: of got drafted too, and it's like rem Protection running
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the floor score in the paint.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: The big man error is back and like to know
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: that it's like and you still hoop. I'm like, Ship,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: what we're doing?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Man, I don't know what we're doing.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I've I've embraced this new journey. Like you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: it can be a lot of reasons why I'm not
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: in the NBA or whatever the case may be. Yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: this is also why I've kind of you know, moved
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: into this lane too of using my voice, and you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: just speaking for myself, because we also came into the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: air where if something was said you just kind of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: had to take it on the chin.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: That was that was labeled as being professional. Yeah, you
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And now it's the areas like motherfuckers say something, players
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: come out like you motherfucking lot.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: We in that air now, So a lot of things
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: was said, and you know, a lot of narratives was
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: put on my name and you know, some true something not.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, if you want
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to know who I am as a person or how
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I care myself every day, you can hear straight from
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the horse's mouth, you know what I'm saying. So I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: don't need nobody else to speak on. I can speak
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: for myself. And uh, that's just kind of where I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: at with it now. And as far as you know,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: continuing to hoop, man, I love the game, Like you know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's hard to just be like, all right, I'm
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: done with this shit. I've been doing this since I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: was a kid, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: this is like waking up brushing my teeth. Sure you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so just to you know, call
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: a quiz because one one door shut on me. There's
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: so many opportunities out here, and I've come to understand
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: that and I've come to embrace it. So you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue my journey playing and if you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: as far as me, you know, reaching out trying to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: convince these guys of what I am and who I am,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of done with that. Like an
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: opportunity comes that makes sense for me, you know, you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I consider that. I definitely look into it, but it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: as far as me, you know, going out trying to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: reach out to them, I'm past that because you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you know, you know what I bring to the floor.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: It's been proven if you really wanted to know who
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I am, you would take the time out yourself to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: get to know me. And I listen to the next
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: because that's what this business is like. That's why narratives
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's such an important thing because that's literally what you know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: it's passed around.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: It's not them like, hey man, you know, who are you?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: What are your answers? What do you?
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Is?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: None of that, you know what I'm saying. They just
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: listen to the next person. And everybody don't vibe with
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: each other.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It could be some shit I don't like about you,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and you can go to him where he don't like me,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: So shit, I don't like him, and that's just kind
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: of how it goes. So you know, that's why I'm
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: at with when it comes to, you know, playing ball
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: overseas life though, that shits sweet. You know, I'm enjoying it, bro, Honestly,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I just gained a whole new respect for who because
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you be brainwashed the thing like the NBA
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: is the ultimate level of basketball, which is a fact
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: in itself, but when you think about it's only what
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: six hundred guys in the league. It's two billion people
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: playing basketball. So you mean to tell me that six
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and first person isn't good, you know what I'm saying.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So you know I've come to experience like to understand that,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and Bro, I'm you know, I'm back to, you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: really loving the game and getting back to my competitive
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: nature and being myself and it's been fun. I found
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: my joy again. You know, I'm happy. I'm happy where
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I'm at in life, and you know I'm gonna do
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: this ship until I'm.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Tired of man. When you get tired, man, complay on
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: my team in the Big Three.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Man, Bro, I'm gonna get there. I know I'm gonna
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: get you got three or four more years. But when
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you get there, Bro, you are not gonna be played
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: at a Big three or forty.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Big three. Fun as hell.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I see you out there cooking and I'm trying, bro
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: getting cooked by young nigga man shout the riskal Kentucky.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: He was a bucket. It's a mask. But nah, Big
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: three cool though.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Other Big I'm talking about you for I'm gonna be
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: out there, Bro, You're gonna be coaching. Bro.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I am gonna be coaching Gary Payton. Yeah, I'll be
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a coach. I'm gonna be a coach. Slacky p turning
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the coach, Nick be the coach. Is crazy be winning though, Nick?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Team winning.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: They got Jeorge Crawford, your.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Instant grids, My dog, he's been cooking out. That's the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: hell of a day.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: He got that name in New Orleans, Yon.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's his lane though.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Big there still get a bucket for sure. Out there.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Bro't do no with it. No, I can't mess with
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: him for sure, man, but listen because we appreciate you
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: sliding on this.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: This is a high anticipated interview. Man, We thank you
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: for sliding on this big dog.
• 43:54
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• 43:56
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• 43:58
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• 44:01
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• 44:03
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