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Speaker 1: About this Carolina Panthers offense.
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we know about the receivers, but just
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Speaker 2: how they're able to sort of execute down and down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously the receivers, you know, talented group. A quarterback
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Speaker 3: just I think got better and better over the last
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Speaker 3: two years and really has done a great job. Very
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Speaker 3: impressed with him. And you know, the running game. The
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Speaker 3: running game has been really really productive for them.
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Speaker 4: But just overall, really good group.
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Speaker 1: Makes already got to to take down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just what you said, tough to get on the ground, physical,
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Speaker 3: you know, always finishing runs that that definitely jumps out
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Speaker 3: when you look at him, like, man, this dude is
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Speaker 3: a finisher and you can that pops through the tape.
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Speaker 3: But you know, even in protection the run game, I
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Speaker 3: think he's done a really good job and uh, you
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Speaker 3: know he gets the tough yards one.
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Speaker 5: How much is there left for you'll learn about your defense?
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Speaker 4: This is gonna be their first like full four quarters.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's always in my experience, uh, there's
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Speaker 3: always a lot to learn. You know, throughout the course
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Speaker 3: of the season, you really figure out who you are,
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Speaker 3: what you really do well, and who does what well.
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Speaker 3: And I think most NFL coaches would tell you as
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Speaker 3: the season progresses, you're continually learning and evaluating. But we
1:15
Speaker 3: like what we've learned at this point, you know, just
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Speaker 3: looking back at it in retrospect from the spring till now, the.
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Speaker 4: Guys have done a really good job.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, but always always learning and evaluating these guys
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Speaker 3: for sure.
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Speaker 4: A couple of receivers for Carolina.
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Speaker 5: What sort of challenges do they give a defense?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think those guys are pretty impressive. The
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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty balls, you know, that's something that's that
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Speaker 3: they definitely present a challenge there, big physical guys after
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Speaker 3: the catch, so you know, you got to be uh,
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Speaker 3: you got to be on your p's and q's when
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Speaker 3: it comes to that, you know, and finishing and not
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Speaker 3: giving up yak, because they've done a good job generating
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Speaker 3: that and the quarterback is really timely with the ball
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Speaker 3: and an accurate thrower.
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Speaker 5: Saud who's got your laid by camp standards and what's
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Speaker 5: finished for him to pick.
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Speaker 3: Up what you're doing, just you know, the volume of stuff.
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Speaker 3: But he's done a great job with that. He's done
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Speaker 3: a ton extra. You know, with some of our defensive
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Speaker 3: line coaches, they've really done a good job getting him
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Speaker 3: acclimated and teaching him the system. And he has some
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Speaker 3: great fundamental great some great fundamentals and a really good
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Speaker 3: background in a lot.
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Speaker 4: Of the stuff that we do.
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Speaker 3: So that's obviously what was attractive about him, you know,
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Speaker 3: coming here and excited about him, and he's proven all
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Speaker 3: that to be true. He's shown up and practiced really
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Speaker 3: well every day.
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Speaker 4: You see that stuff showing up.
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Speaker 5: With Eric and Mason missing so much time early on,
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Speaker 5: are you feeling like they're ready to get a going.
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Speaker 4: In week one? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: They you know, even in the joint practice down in Miami,
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Speaker 3: I felt like they were chomping at the bit. And
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Speaker 3: they've just been really excited and you guys, you know,
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Speaker 3: you've probably gotten to see him in individual and stuff
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Speaker 3: and they're going I mean, they're practicing their ass off.
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Speaker 4: So been fun to watch them.
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Speaker 3: And they've they've really been locked in in the meetings
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Speaker 3: and I'm excited to get them going it too.
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Speaker 4: You know, is the attitude where you want it to
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Speaker 4: be for the defense, Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 3: You know, we got a bunch of guys, were hard
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Speaker 3: charging guys. Just a preparation is you know, you walk
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Speaker 3: in here every day. You gotta have the same energy,
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Speaker 3: you know, you got the same guy every day. And
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Speaker 3: we want them to prepare like maniacs. We want to
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Speaker 3: practice like a maniac, you know, we want you to
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Speaker 3: play like a maniac. So running the ball, get all blocks,
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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, there's one standard here, and I
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Speaker 3: think they've adapted, you know, in a lot of ways,
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Speaker 3: and they've kind of taken that as their own and
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Speaker 3: run with it. And the best teams are player led,
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Speaker 3: and I think we have a lot of great player
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Speaker 3: leadership when it comes to that just play style.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, some of the guys that were going last year
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Speaker 5: still have a bad taste in their mouth for how
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Speaker 5: that looked and wanted to go out there and put
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Speaker 5: a good shot.
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Speaker 4: I don't really know about that.
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Speaker 3: What I would say is I just feel like they've
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Speaker 3: been really passionate about how they go about their work
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Speaker 3: every day, you know, I mean just the practice style
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Speaker 3: every day and allowing us as coaches to challenge them
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Speaker 3: and take them to places where you know that they
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Speaker 3: might not be able to take themselves every day. But
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Speaker 3: they've been really really good about that and we've been
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Speaker 3: grinding them in practice, so by by, by all standards.
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Speaker 4: So I'm brothers with that's making the rosters.
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Speaker 5: How much of that back and forth competitions between of
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Speaker 5: both of them kind of help maybe each better?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it definitely helped them.
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Speaker 3: They're both competitive guys and competitive young guys. They just
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Speaker 3: they trained that way I think before they got here.
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Speaker 3: You know, they usually get a sense of that from
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Speaker 3: younger players when they're walking the building, you know, and
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Speaker 3: I mean that all the way down to special teams,
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Speaker 3: you know, and trying to do everything right all the time.
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Speaker 3: And they have the right makeup one. You know, they
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Speaker 3: have the right makeup and they approach things that way.
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Speaker 3: But you know, iron sharpens iron, and I think they
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Speaker 3: were competing with each other the whole way through fighting
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Speaker 3: for a spot, and they both made it and are
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Speaker 3: honestly very happy with what they've done to this point.
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Speaker 4: Both of those guys. Ja the defensive end room and
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Speaker 4: kind of like building a basketball lineup.
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Speaker 1: How much versatility do you have?
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Speaker 5: You think guys can go inside outside young guys.
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Speaker 3: I think that's a good good point, But I think
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Speaker 3: throughout the front there is that There is that in
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Speaker 3: the linebacker room, you know.
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Speaker 4: So, but I'm kind of used to that.
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Speaker 3: That's what we always did everywhere else I was were
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Speaker 3: and I said this early on when you guys were
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Speaker 3: asking about just systems and football.
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Speaker 4: The more you can do, the more you can do,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 3: So just having guys that have versatility to their game
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Speaker 3: gives you a chance to do different things with them
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Speaker 3: and you know, getting the different structures and different groupings.
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Speaker 3: So that that's kind of how we built it in James.
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Speaker 3: Really it's an unbelievable job going out and getting guys
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Speaker 3: and bringing guys in this building that exemplify that.
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Speaker 1: Something something people always say about Liam as he's.
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Speaker 5: A great communicator from your and what makes him such
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Speaker 5: a good communicator.
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Speaker 4: He's just a he's a real guy.
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Speaker 3: Like he's a hard guy not to like, you know,
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Speaker 3: likes h He's very very human.
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Speaker 4: But he's he's really been great with being.
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Speaker 3: Demanding of the players, and I don't ever see him
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Speaker 3: as demeaning.
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Speaker 4: I just think his standard is really really high, uh,
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Speaker 4: for all of.
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Speaker 3: Them, and it's it's high for the coaches in here.
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Speaker 3: So that's been great. But you know, knowing him over
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Speaker 3: the years, he's he's the same guy he's always been.
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Speaker 3: He's competitive as hell, you know, loves football, loves the
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Speaker 3: guys he coaches, and you know he approaches it like
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Speaker 3: that every day, you know, so, which which is awesome.
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Speaker 3: That's that's part of the reason why he is a
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Speaker 3: great communicator. It's very genuine, it's real.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first regular season game.
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Speaker 3: I'm just fired up. Man, I'm excited, you know, excited
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Speaker 3: for these guys. I'm kind of living that world. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm just fired up and fired up for them, for
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Speaker 3: the players, and just ready to get going.
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Speaker 5: You know, with with Travis Hunter having experience against tedder
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Speaker 5: O McMillan, is that something y'all have leaned on at
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Speaker 5: all as a defense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's just there's so many variables and
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Speaker 3: in every game week so you know, have those matchups
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Speaker 3: shake out and all that. I mean, that's you know,
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Speaker 3: there's a lot to that. But yeah, we just try
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Speaker 3: and rely as much on the tape, you know, the
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Speaker 3: evaluation of the players and what you see, you know,
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Speaker 3: and what they do as much as we can just specifically.
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Speaker 1: The track's playing corner.
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Speaker 2: How much growth did you see from him from.
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Speaker 3: When you guys got him in the offseason to you know,
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Speaker 3: getting out the league one.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think he was well coached in college,
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Speaker 3: but I think he's made a really big jump, big
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Speaker 3: progression from where he started at to where he is now.
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Speaker 3: And it's you know, continuing to evolve and doing a
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Speaker 3: good job. He's doing the extra Like I talked to
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Speaker 3: you whenever you guys ask, trying to tell you that,
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Speaker 3: you know, he's doing extra, pulling double duty. So really
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Speaker 3: impressed with that. And it's it's all from hard work.
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Speaker 3: So it's great to see work.
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Speaker 5: And saft erre receiver can help him that corner or
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Speaker 5: something just kind of route combinations technique.
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Speaker 4: For sure. I think I think that happens.
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Speaker 3: There's just so much carryover, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 3: There's so much you learn. He's got an unbelievable receiver
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Speaker 3: coach there. You know, a guy who's a great player,
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Speaker 3: knows a ton of football, has been a great coach
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Speaker 3: for a long time, and he'd be in there's no
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Speaker 3: way that that can't help you. You know, you're you're
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Speaker 3: with him, You're Ron Mileish where guys who are lifers
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Speaker 3: in this league, and there's so much information for him
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Speaker 3: every day. You know, at his fingertips from two great
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Speaker 3: coaches every day and he definitely benefits from that on
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Speaker 3: both ends of the field. I think it's a one
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Speaker 3: offense primarily first to start him out just to get
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Speaker 3: him to learn that wide receiver role.
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Speaker 1: So where is he taking the most strides at that position?
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Speaker 1: And how confident are you guys going into Week one
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Speaker 1: with him?
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Speaker 2: I think for any rookie, usually the most strides is
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Speaker 2: going to be mentally learning a new system. Whether it's
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Speaker 2: coming from a spread system in college or a pro
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Speaker 2: system in college, there's.
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Speaker 1: A lot to learn.
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Speaker 2: So probably should say that for rookies or a new
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Speaker 2: player a free agent signing, those strides are always going
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Speaker 2: to be biggest Mentally. It's tough for a guy to
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Speaker 2: show what he can do and show all his physical
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Speaker 2: capabilities when he's still trying to think about where am
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Speaker 2: I lining up, what am I doing? What's my job?
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Speaker 2: So Justin's ability to go out there and line up
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Speaker 2: and play and play fast, I think shows with his
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Speaker 2: technique and some of the different things you see as
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Speaker 2: a receiver.
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Speaker 1: Maybe since he is a rookie that he's been able
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Speaker 1: to catch on quickly.
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Speaker 5: I saw one the hunt you were telling him, you
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Speaker 5: know you already know this play and we haven't even
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Speaker 5: sold it.
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Speaker 1: Is that something that's unique that you see from them.
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Speaker 2: I think it's certainly a testament to his work ethic,
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Speaker 2: his commitment to putting in extra time and effort, wanting
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Speaker 2: to meet with coaches extra do those little one offs
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Speaker 2: that you guys see and talk about in special teams,
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Speaker 2: and being so eager to learn and improve. I think,
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Speaker 2: like I said, it's a real testament to his growth
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Speaker 2: mindset and all the work and focus that he puts in.
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Speaker 3: How much just the I guess the difference between the
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Speaker 3: practice field and the game field for a guy like Trevor, where.
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Speaker 1: You've seen him practice the offense you've.
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Speaker 2: Done in the classroom, but now you got to go
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Speaker 2: out there and.
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Speaker 1: Do it in the game.
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Speaker 2: It's certainly different, and it's always going to be different
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Speaker 2: just because of the pace of the games.
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Speaker 1: You have the adrenaline going.
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Speaker 2: Guys are moving a little bit faster we're in practice
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Speaker 2: if they're going ninety eight percent, that they're going one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent in the game. So there's always a little
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Speaker 2: difference in the speed and sometimes that can be hard
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Speaker 2: to adjust depending on the guy to throw to receiver,
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Speaker 2: throwing going full speed, or throw against defensive backs breaking
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Speaker 2: on balls full speed, and then you add the element
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Speaker 2: of now you can get hit where we're protecting guys
10:14
Speaker 2: in practice a little bit controlling some of the variables
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Speaker 2: and trying to get certain looks or certain things manufactured,
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Speaker 2: so there's more unknowns mentally, and then the added aspect
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Speaker 2: of the physicality of it. Now it's real, live flying
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Speaker 2: bullets around you. So it's always a little bit different,
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Speaker 2: but we try to get it as close to a
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Speaker 2: game like situation as possible in practice. Leaves of David
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Speaker 2: James have been fans and take Patrick for a long time,
10:35
Speaker 2: just being around it for a few weeks now, what're
10:37
Speaker 2: worded about something he's been awesome to have here, Really
10:40
Speaker 2: his diligence and his conscientious work ethic from learning the playbook.
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Speaker 2: We're out there at practice trying to take every rep,
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Speaker 2: being a real pro about going about his business. And
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Speaker 2: I've talked about it for a couple of guys, how
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Speaker 2: hard it is to kind of come in and learn
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Speaker 2: the system on your own.
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Speaker 1: You're behind.
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Speaker 2: Everyone else got the install from the ground up, so
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Speaker 2: they got to learn the system being put in from
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Speaker 2: scratch and learn all the all the wise, the ins
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Speaker 2: and outs of why things.
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Speaker 1: Are structured the way they're structured.
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like learning a language without learning
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Speaker 2: the first words or the alphabet first. So it's been
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Speaker 2: awesome to see him go in there and be able
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Speaker 2: to do it and try to do some of that
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Speaker 2: stuff on his own. And really the guy he's been
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Speaker 2: with the guys or with the coaches and just embracing
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Speaker 2: whatever we've asked him to do has been a lot
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Speaker 2: of fun, miser.
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Speaker 5: Value, and those guys just watching and seeing how he
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Speaker 5: goes about his work, practice.
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Speaker 1: Habits all that.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think all of us, whether it's players or coaches,
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Speaker 2: are all trying to learn from each other. So it's
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Speaker 2: great to have a guy like that around that young
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Speaker 2: receiver room. And I think all in all, those guys
11:35
Speaker 2: have all been a positive influence on each other, with
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Speaker 2: each guy pushing each other to be better and better.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's not just the young guys versus the
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Speaker 2: old guys. It's the young guys pushing the old guys
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Speaker 2: as well to practice hard and try to outdro them,
11:48
Speaker 2: and then the old guys trying to out do the
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Speaker 2: young guys. So it's a great room of guys all
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Speaker 2: pushing each other and learning from each other.
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Speaker 5: You feel about how the offensive lines can be done.
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Speaker 1: I feel good about it.
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Speaker 2: I like those guys, Like we've talked about, the depth
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Speaker 2: of that room has been awesome to see. We have
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Speaker 2: the flexibility of guys being able to play different positions inside, outside, left,
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Speaker 2: and right, which is nice to have. Different guys can snap,
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Speaker 2: different guys can play guard, play tackle, and then they've
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Speaker 2: done a great job of kind of coming together and
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Speaker 2: learning to work together, which is always a big thing
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Speaker 2: in the offensive line because as much as there's one
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Speaker 2: on ones at times, a lot of it is dependent
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Speaker 2: on the communication. How are you setting, how are you blocking?
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Speaker 2: What call are you making here? So there's so much
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Speaker 2: communication with those guys where even though it looks like
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Speaker 2: a one on one or it ends up being a
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Speaker 2: one on one at the end of the play, so
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Speaker 2: much of that is dictated by what they did pre
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Speaker 2: snap or what they did with their footwork to create
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Speaker 2: that one on one, or what's the call, what's the combination.
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Speaker 2: So it's been fun to see those guys come closer
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Speaker 2: together as a unit.
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Speaker 1: That I mean, the voice the leaves. It's been awesome.
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Speaker 2: Awesome, not just for that unit, I would say really
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Speaker 2: for the whole offense. He's been an absolute joy to
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Speaker 2: be around. With his work ethic, his approach, his mentality,
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Speaker 2: all those things that Coach Cohen talks about with the
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Speaker 2: culture that we're trying to build here, he really embraces that.
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of carrying the flag for that for
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Speaker 2: in the offensive O line room and the offensive unit room,
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Speaker 2: really pushing us players, coaches, everyone included to kind of
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Speaker 2: embody that every days. For you, it was it was
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Speaker 2: a good experience, you know, worthwhile experience. Obviously would love
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Speaker 2: a better result in it. But I appreciate the guys
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Speaker 2: in their work ethic, going out there in a challenging
13:19
Speaker 2: situation where some guys who really didn't get a lot
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Speaker 2: of reps in training camp probably had not run some
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Speaker 2: of those plays before full speed, and then going out
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Speaker 2: there and doing it against the one defense in Miami.
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Speaker 2: I love the way those guys competed and really appreciate
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Speaker 2: the work they put in to prepare when they didn't
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Speaker 2: have opportunities in practice, they didn't have opportunities and enjoint
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Speaker 2: practice go out there and play and play full speed
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Speaker 2: or even play together.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're going out there with.
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Speaker 2: The center who basically got there the day before the trip,
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Speaker 2: and those guys didn't complain about it once. So I
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Speaker 2: loved the way they attacked it and really appreciate the
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Speaker 2: way they played, the style they played.
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Speaker 4: And what does it mean that he wants you guys
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Speaker 4: to do.
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Speaker 1: Do things in the group. I think it's great.
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Speaker 2: I think that kind of is almost intoxicating. It's contagious
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Speaker 2: throughout the entire culture for the players and coaches that
14:03
Speaker 2: we want to try to find edges and push the
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Speaker 2: boundaries and find the best way possible to do things. So,
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Speaker 2: whether it's plays, or whether it's the way we're meeting,
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Speaker 2: whether it's the way we're walking through whatever it may be,
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Speaker 2: it's awesome to have that opportunity to really try to
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Speaker 2: push yourself and be open to finding what's best for
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Speaker 2: the team.
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Speaker 5: You look at the Panthers defense, Sazera Everro who's been
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Speaker 5: there a couple of years now. Do y'all lean on
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Speaker 5: what Liam was able to do last year in Tampa
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Speaker 5: coaching against that team and what type of challenges do
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Speaker 5: they present.
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Speaker 1: I think you try to incorporate a little bit of everything.
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Speaker 2: It starts with kind of that understanding of who we
14:39
Speaker 2: are and what we want to do, which might be
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Speaker 2: a little bit different than what was in Tampa Bay
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Speaker 2: or what any of us were in previous stops, but
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Speaker 2: there are certainly principles of the offense that will carry
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Speaker 2: over no matter where you're out or who's out there,
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Speaker 2: which starting eleven, or which personnel is out there, So
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Speaker 2: there are certainly principles to that. In terms of the
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Speaker 2: challenges that they pose, we don't know exactly actly what
15:00
Speaker 2: they're going to be, and they could have changed things,
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Speaker 2: but the structure overall will be probably fairly similar. So
15:07
Speaker 2: when you go out there and you attack that defense,
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Speaker 2: you're trying to kind of find new ways of attacking
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Speaker 2: similar things or find new ways of presenting the old
15:14
Speaker 2: things you've done before. You know, it's a mix of
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Speaker 2: new stuff that we've never done before, mix of old
15:19
Speaker 2: stuff that we've done before differently, so you're trying to
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Speaker 2: combine a whole bunch of different things. But it's really
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Speaker 2: trying to take a holistic perspective of what's the best
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Speaker 2: way to attack the defense.
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Speaker 5: When you look at your on facts, that's how much
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Speaker 5: growth have you seen it from them to guess to
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Speaker 5: start until now getting comfortable with.
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Speaker 4: The offense rolls.
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Speaker 2: I think the growth for each guy has probably been
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Speaker 2: different because each guy had different things that they want
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Speaker 2: to improve, but it's noticeable for each guy and their attack,
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Speaker 2: their ability to attack what they're.
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Speaker 1: Trying to improve on.
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Speaker 2: So if someone guy might focus one day or one
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Speaker 2: week on pass protection and some of those different things,
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Speaker 2: one guy's trying to focus on his tempo on a
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Speaker 2: certain run scheme. I think those guys it kind of
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Speaker 2: comes in pieces where it's not linear progression for those
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Speaker 2: guys all moving in the same direction, but you see
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Speaker 2: each of those stack that progression day by day in
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Speaker 2: those little areas, and overall as a group, I think
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Speaker 2: it's come together fairly nicely.
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Appreciate you.