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How Sam Smith's songwriting changed on their new album

Our guest this episode, Sam Smith, is one of the most popular singers in the world. Sam's music has more than 57 billion streams. We first met in 2014 in Sam's hometown in England, when their debut album was just blowing up. Now, a dozen years later, Sam came to my home to talk about their stunning fifth album, "Hazel Eyes."

00:00 "That's where I sat with you"

00:32 Welcome to Alchemy

02:13 A queer love album — and a radical one

03:51 Leaving the pop factory

05:08 The pressure of being a billion-stream artist

07:14 Inside "Thief"

12:08 A private relationship with singing

13:31 Church, gospel…

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