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Did the Nats win the first trade of deadline season? · District Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the District Territory Podcast. I'm Eric Shellhouse
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Speaker 1: from bat Boys Baseball and joining me today Spencer Nusbaum
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Speaker 1: of The Athletic. It's a successful weekend for the Nationals,
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Speaker 1: a busy weekend for the Nationals. Let's dive right into it.
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Speaker 1: The big news Connilly Early come into Washington in exchange
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Speaker 1: for infielder Curtis Mead is first reported by Jeff pass
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Speaker 1: And I'm very excited about this pick up for the
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Speaker 1: national Spencer, but obviously the departure of Curtis Mead has
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Speaker 1: some fans upset. Walk us through this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give the most simple breakdown I can, which
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Speaker 2: is that the Nationals are very good at hitting. They
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Speaker 2: are in the progress of trying to become better on
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Speaker 2: the mound. I think this is incredible heart move for
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Speaker 2: the Nationals. I would give it an A which I
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Speaker 2: don't think is a usually out for things like it.
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Speaker 2: And that's that's that is also kind of acknowledging that
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Speaker 2: this version of Turtise, I'm just kind of a belief
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Speaker 2: that the national and so strong and window or the
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Speaker 2: ability to kind of add controllable starting pitching is like
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Speaker 2: I kind of wrote about this morning for the athletic
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Speaker 2: that I just think a controllable starting pitcher for a
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Speaker 2: bat that theoretically you could replace. I think you're in
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Speaker 2: a spot where you have.
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Speaker 1: To do yeah. I mean it's no, no, no secret.
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Speaker 1: The Nationals need some pitching help, and they're certainly seemingly
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Speaker 1: getting it. Connie Early was the number fifty two ranked
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Speaker 1: MLB prospect entering the season by Baseball America. It's a
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Speaker 1: lot of hype around the kid. He's on the injured
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Speaker 1: list right now, but then I shall have a couple
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Speaker 1: of guys working their way back, including Jake Irvin.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: It seems like hopefully this will be impactful for the
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Speaker 1: rotation this year too. To Bone spoken the dugout the
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Speaker 1: other day, I believe August third is when he's scheduled
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Speaker 1: for a rehab start. But this is a move the
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Speaker 1: Nationals made with intentions of, hey, he could help us
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Speaker 1: out this season and in the years to come exactly.
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Speaker 2: And one of the ways that to Bony put it
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Speaker 2: that I thought was really interesting is he said his
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Speaker 2: job is not just to look at his spreadsheet, It
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Speaker 2: is to look at the clubhouse and what it would
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Speaker 2: mean this team to compete and he said the team
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Speaker 2: has the it factor this year, which I think is
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Speaker 2: a fair assessment to put on it given how much
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Speaker 2: sleep overachieved and the fact that they're over five hundred
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Speaker 2: and just took a series of the Diamondbacks. Right that
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Speaker 2: being said, and I wrote about this this morning. If
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Speaker 2: you're a true contention window, meaning this team is going
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Speaker 2: to compete for the World Series, that's not happening this year.
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Speaker 2: But I think it's fair to at least make sure
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Speaker 2: you're off shipped down enough where you're still giving yourself
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Speaker 2: an outside shot thing. And even beyond that, I think,
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Speaker 2: because we talked link right like that's the goal of
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Speaker 2: being a baseball team. The goal is to win the
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Speaker 2: World Series. To me, and I wrote about this this
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Speaker 2: morning at the Athletic, they need more controllable pitching to
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Speaker 2: do that. This is good first step, but to me
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Speaker 2: it does kind of clarify. Hey, twenty twenty seven and
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Speaker 2: especially twenty twenty eight, candidly are kind of the avenues
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Speaker 2: I'm looking. Hey, this is probably when the true contention
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Speaker 2: whindow can start. But I think it's real that they
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Speaker 2: are not giving up on twenty twenty six, when there
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Speaker 2: is frankly, despite and might not want to hear its
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Speaker 2: like there is a case for the season and thinking
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Speaker 2: long term.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Marlins have certainly been doing the Nationals
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Speaker 1: some help. They have lost twelve in a row that
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Speaker 1: is now a franchise record. They find themselves eight and
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Speaker 1: a half back of the NL East in just one
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Speaker 1: game out of the playoff car out of a wildcard
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Speaker 1: spot after taking two or three from the Diamondbacks, but
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Speaker 1: just such an important series in general for them to
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Speaker 1: get two of three there, it really seems like they
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Speaker 1: are embracing, like you said, a soft cell, but also
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Speaker 1: a soft by bringing in pieces that are going to
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Speaker 1: help them in the next in the years to come,
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Speaker 1: in the window that is going to open up soon.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Saturday really quickly, because Foster Griffin was
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Speaker 1: incredible again. Five to three Nationals victory helped get them
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Speaker 1: back over the five hundred mark. But the Phillies and
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Speaker 1: Rays had scouts and attendants watching Foster Griffin. We know
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Speaker 1: this is a very popular name of the trade deadline spencer,
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Speaker 1: but tell me about watching him on Saturday and what
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Speaker 1: you heard about other teams and attendance to watch him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think The biggest thing I would put on Foster,
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Speaker 2: right is despite the fact that again these two teams
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Speaker 2: were in attendance to Washington, which I think is not nothing.
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Speaker 2: What it speaks to for me is these are You
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Speaker 2: look at the number of teams that are contending and
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Speaker 2: the number of teams that need starting pitching, it's almost
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent overlap, right, And I think we've talked
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Speaker 2: about this before. Market for Foster should be really strong,
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Speaker 2: and even if it isn't strong, it should be really wide, right,
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Speaker 2: because how many teams could use him as the number
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Speaker 2: three or number four starter this year or I'm not
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Speaker 2: saying he belongs in the bullpen because clearly he's shown
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Speaker 2: that he doesn't, but.
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Speaker 1: If the team wanted to try it, yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: go Andrew Miller's style like the Cleveland did back in twenty.
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Speaker 2: Sixteen, exactly exactly. And so I think that the market
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Speaker 2: for him is going to be strong. And again we
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Speaker 2: heard anything that indicates an extension is closed, which is
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Speaker 2: not to say it isn't. I could be, you know,
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Speaker 2: but I just think that when you think about what
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Speaker 2: the Nationals need and their their long term window, unless
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Speaker 2: they're able to sign Foster, or term extension offer. Maybe
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Speaker 2: the key I'm holding on to are they are acting
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Speaker 2: as though it is a definitive possibility that they do.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: This is a guy where everything is on the table,
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Speaker 2: probably more so than anyone else on the roster.
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Speaker 1: Right, it's not an interesting scenario. They can do things
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Speaker 1: even if they choose to keep him through the rest
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Speaker 1: of the season. They don't make the playoffs to protect
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Speaker 1: him or not protect him. Protect the team if you will,
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Speaker 1: if he leaves in free agency. But it's certainly an
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Speaker 1: interesting package you would think that other teams are offering.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, Spencer, have you heard anything about like what
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Speaker 1: a package looks like, how many prospects are involved. Obviously
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Speaker 1: a top one hundred name I think has to be
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Speaker 1: moved for a guy of his caliber.
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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say a top one hundred caliber guy
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Speaker 2: just because you're getting him for like one postseason run.
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Speaker 2: But what I would say is, if you look at
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Speaker 2: kind of the underlying metrics, it's pretty similar to what
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Speaker 2: Michael Struka did last year. Now again, I kind of
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Speaker 2: envisioned the package to be a hair better than that
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Speaker 2: which at the time returned Ronnie Cruz, who is kind
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Speaker 2: of a high upside, low level prospect at Christian Franklin,
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Speaker 2: a triple A outfielder. I'd expect a little bit more
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Speaker 2: than that, just because of what he's actually produced metrics
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Speaker 2: I think is notable, and Soroka had that dip. If
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Speaker 2: we remember towards the end of Jill lost him some value,
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Speaker 2: had nothing of the sort. I guess you could say
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Speaker 2: the wiff is down recently, but to me that you know,
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Speaker 2: he's still putting UB Zero's one two stories right.
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Speaker 1: The whiff isn't a part of his game that needs
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Speaker 1: to be on all the time. He's just such a
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Speaker 1: dog out there. He finds a way to get through
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Speaker 1: the lineup every day exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would envision candidly or maybe expect something
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Speaker 2: a little better than that package. I would pump the
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Speaker 2: brakes sough on top one hundred Prospect talk. Teams will
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Speaker 2: okay for starting pitching. If they do that, it's usually
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Speaker 2: for a guy that they're starting in Game one of
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Speaker 2: a postseason series. Despite how good Foster has been, I
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Speaker 2: just I think the fact that he's a free agent
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Speaker 2: after this season and the fact that he's not starting
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Speaker 2: Game one of the postseasons kind of complicates matters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is without a doubt to me. The I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what happens with that name
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Speaker 1: at the deadline, but it's going to be really interesting
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Speaker 1: to follow. If you look at the Nationals upcoming schedule,
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Speaker 1: It hasn't really been an incredible season for the reigning
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Speaker 1: American League champions. They find themselves down in the cellar
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Speaker 1: of the American League East. But Spencer, I'm just curious
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Speaker 1: your thoughts going into this series what the Nationals can
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Speaker 1: do to the expectation. I think at this point on
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Speaker 1: home turf is starting to become win the series and hey,
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Speaker 1: can we eat this up to a sweep. But what
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts going into this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the the Blue Jays, as you clearly mentioned,
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Speaker 2: are are on a spiral down and the Nationals aren't
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Speaker 2: on the ascent up. We also know that this, uh,
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Speaker 2: this park hasn't exactly been kind to the Nationals in
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Speaker 2: terms of how they've played here, and so yeah, I
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Speaker 2: think candidly you have to take two of three, you know,
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Speaker 2: tonight again they'll they'll get Shurezer, who you could see
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Speaker 2: him throw five no had innings, also has an area
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Speaker 2: of ten, right, and so we'll kind of see what happens.
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Speaker 2: But regardless, I mean, I think it's just exciting that
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Speaker 2: that Sure's are going to be on the mound. It's
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Speaker 2: something where again he hasn't pitched here since I've been
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Speaker 2: on the beat, and so this is a obviously a
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Speaker 2: new experience for me. But I think for fans again,
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Speaker 2: just if we are going to step ouk and contention
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Speaker 2: top for just one second and just kind of all exciting, interesting,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Being able to that's you know, play against
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Speaker 2: Jerser tonight is is obviously a really compelled and then yeah,
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Speaker 2: beyond that just needs the back keep doing what they've
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Speaker 2: been doing. And yeah, the Blue Jays have have proven
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Speaker 2: their offense is not as strong as it was when
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Speaker 2: they made it to the game to them here, so
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Speaker 2: they'll I envision they'll probably do a lot of mixing
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Speaker 2: and matching that the Nationals will on them Mount mh.
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Speaker 1: Probable pictures for Tuesday and Wednesday are Shane Bieber and
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Speaker 1: Cavee Cabaldi and then Trey you Savage against Zach Lttel,
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Speaker 1: although entirely possible that the Nationals could be considering an
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Speaker 1: opener strategy come Wednesday. While we're talking out Matt Max
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Speaker 1: really quickly. Yesterday was the Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
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Speaker 1: I think this is kind of an obvious answer to
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Speaker 1: this question, Spencer, but I want to ask you, who
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Speaker 1: do you think is the first guy that will be
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Speaker 1: representing the Curly w on their way into Cooperstown.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it might be the man on the
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Speaker 2: mount tonight, unless I'm I'm misremembering someone right. It's hard.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to honestly think of someone who has the
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame probability that we'll both get them in,
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Speaker 2: and you know, wants to represent the Nats. I'm curious
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Speaker 2: if anyone else.
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Speaker 1: I'm to me, it's obviously Max seems like the lock
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Speaker 1: for the first guy. But I think that it call
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Speaker 1: me crazy, but I think there's an argument to be
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Speaker 1: made for Juan Soto still because we don't know what
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Speaker 1: that contract may become in New York. We don't know
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Speaker 1: what his legacy may be left as there in New York,
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Speaker 1: and there's certainly a commitment to him there right now.
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Speaker 1: But I think if you go and look at this
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Speaker 1: guy's baseball career, the best seasons and the best omens
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Speaker 1: and the best memories for him probably came in Washington.
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Speaker 1: I still believe there's an argument for him. I really
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Speaker 1: want to believe Steven Strassburg is a Hall of Fame player,
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Speaker 1: but he's definitely a NAT's Ring of Honor member. Get
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Speaker 1: that done one day ownership. But yeah, it's so obviously
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Speaker 1: Max to me, I mean, like you said, a Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame career and had some of his best moments
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Speaker 1: in Washington. Some people say like Detroit or throw around
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Speaker 1: other names. I'm like, get out of here with that.
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Speaker 1: Come on multiple not otters in DC the ring. I
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Speaker 1: just think it's definitely got to be Max. Let's take
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Speaker 1: a look at yesterday's game really quickly ten to seven Nationals.
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Speaker 1: It was the full Nationals experience. They had to come
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Speaker 1: back a couple of times. James Wood with a game
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Speaker 1: tying home run in the bottom of the fifth inning
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Speaker 1: made it four to four, and they weren't done that inning.
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Speaker 1: See j Abrams with a multi homer game seven in
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Speaker 1: his last seven games. He is just on fire. And
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Speaker 1: James Wood wasn't done either, in the bottom of the
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Speaker 1: eighth inning, making it ten to five national with his
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Speaker 1: thirtieth home run of the season. There's a couple of
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Speaker 1: things I want to reckon with here from yesterday's game,
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Speaker 1: Spencer James Wood reaching thirty home runs this quickly, which
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Speaker 1: I don't think is a surprise to anyone, but the
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Speaker 1: fact that it's July twenty seventh, we're saying that. And cj.
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Speaker 1: Abrams continues to light the world on fire at a
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Speaker 1: position where the Nationals have a lot of death. There
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Speaker 1: is a lot of interest around his name is the
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Speaker 1: deadline approaches, But Washington has fallen in love with this
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Speaker 1: guy and it would hurt to lose him in the clubhouse.
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Speaker 2: It would, right, And that's that's what makes kind of
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Speaker 2: this next week just such a quagmire for the front office,
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Speaker 2: right Like, there is absolutely a case to be made
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Speaker 2: that you trade cg Abrams and you not only set
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Speaker 2: yourself up for twenty twenty seven twenty eight, but you
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Speaker 2: become like a true true contender. If you nail that trade, right,
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Speaker 2: you nail not only twenty eight, but twenty nine, thirty
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Speaker 2: thirty one. The flip side of that is, all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden, your contention windows pretty open. Is happy to
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Speaker 2: have this guy here and with James and c J.
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Speaker 2: Candidly I check them to this year, probably not because
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Speaker 2: they probably won't do the season this year. If you
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Speaker 2: have Kate on the mound and you get some good
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Speaker 2: luck roll in your way, you have two of the
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Speaker 2: ten best hitters in baseball, right, And that is a
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Speaker 2: recipe for winning a short series. House. I know that
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Speaker 2: these things haven't happened yet, and I know that they're
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Speaker 2: still unlikely, and I know all these different aspects you
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Speaker 2: have to consist. It's decided attention or the national's likelihood
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Speaker 2: to make the postseasons play but also like the now,
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Speaker 2: they're trying to balance short term and long term at
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Speaker 2: the same time, right, and so that that will make
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Speaker 2: this week tricky. But if we just talk about James
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Speaker 2: and CJ, who they are as players teammates, are right
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Speaker 2: the rock of this franchise, and that is if you're
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Speaker 2: talking about guys super there there are a lot of
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Speaker 2: teams that cannot match up with that, that don't have
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Speaker 2: that optional stud I mean, let's think about where they
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Speaker 2: were at two years ago when the one two version
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Speaker 2: of CJ. Abrams that wasn't ready breakout yet and Thomas,
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Speaker 2: who was a good kind of borderline All Star player,
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Speaker 2: Like it's a good one two to have. You're just
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Speaker 2: the foundation that they have.
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, right, There's no disrespect to the player that
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Speaker 1: Lane was or who CJ was a couple of seasons ago.
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Speaker 1: But you talk about the foundation now following. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if for the previous regime there was almost a mentality
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Speaker 1: of like, we can't trade those guys because there's no
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Speaker 1: other offense. But yesterday's box score it was busy, man,
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Speaker 1: I mean, just an incredible game all around for the guys.
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Speaker 1: I shout out the two of them, but those other
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Speaker 1: runs came from somewhere else. Team had fifteen hits, I believe.
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Speaker 1: Bring that up really quickly. Fifteen hits, ten runs. It's
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Speaker 1: just that double digit number. They seem to come across
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Speaker 1: it quite often. And the bat's keep on roll and
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Speaker 1: hopefully they'll keep it dude, and keep on doing that
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Speaker 1: a lot of hype around his name in spring. We're
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Speaker 1: finally getting to see it now. But what has excited
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Speaker 1: me the most is the use of the APS challenge
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Speaker 1: by him thus far. Dan Colco with a great call
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Speaker 1: in the ninth inning yesterday. He is seven of eight
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Speaker 1: on his ABS challenges so far. This was something the
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Speaker 1: National struggled on a lot in April, and may they've
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Speaker 1: gotten a lot better of it of recently. But to
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Speaker 1: see when he was using the challenges as well, because
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Speaker 1: home plate umpire is lucky. I don't have the name
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Speaker 1: pulled up right now. Wasn't a great day for them yesterday,
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Speaker 1: And I think that was kind of obvious from the
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Speaker 1: get go in the first and the second inning, and
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Speaker 1: I'm yelling at my TV telling Harry, yo, you use
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Speaker 1: the challenge. You know you know that. I think you
19:47
Speaker 1: know that that's a strike. But it mattered when he
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Speaker 1: overturned a strike out in the ninth inning, and when
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Speaker 1: he's been using the challenges, what have you noticed from
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Speaker 1: him since his call a big league spencer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the stuff is notable, if
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Speaker 2: only because the Nationals have been unsuccessful on that front.
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Speaker 2: Beyond that, though, I think what is interesting about Harry
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Speaker 2: is that we kind of need a sample size, or
20:13
Speaker 2: a real sample size of three four weeks to understand
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Speaker 2: just how good defensively he is back there. He had
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Speaker 2: a bit of down season both at the plate and
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Speaker 2: behind the plate in Rochester, uh, if only because he
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Speaker 2: was dealing with a shoulder injury that kind of hampered him.
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Speaker 2: And so then now that he's fully healthy, now that
20:34
Speaker 2: again he seems quite happy to be here and quite long.
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Speaker 2: I'm really kind of Bobby Wilson, who helped Caperuiz behind
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Speaker 2: the dish a lot, definitely helped Drew Millis, who was
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Speaker 2: also I'm pretty strong on the plate, become even stronger.
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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see it's a big leap because for
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Speaker 2: as bad as the Nationals pitching the results have, they
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Speaker 2: have made massive strides behind the plate and feeling strikes
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Speaker 2: and so yeah, if Harry Ford could do well, I
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Speaker 2: think that is a massive benefit to the National feature.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a funny tweet the other day saying
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Speaker 1: the extensions the Nationals need to get done the most
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Speaker 1: is the coaching staff, and I think Bobby Wilson is
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Speaker 1: a huge part of the conversation. I think the hitting staff,
21:24
Speaker 1: the pitching staff, all those guys, those might be some
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Speaker 1: of the most important extensions the Nationals can lock down
21:30
Speaker 1: the the deadline approaches. Here, Spencer, anything you want to
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Speaker 1: toss in before you're over at the ballpark later on today,
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Speaker 1: Any any hot takes or anything from the hot stove
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Speaker 1: you want to add here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just again, I think the final thing I
21:46
Speaker 2: would kind of want to bring up is about finally
21:50
Speaker 2: early in what it means for the National's rotation moving
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Speaker 2: forward right again. Wrote about this at the Athletic this morning.
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Speaker 2: But if you picture, if you imagine that the National's
22:01
Speaker 2: contingent window opens up in twenty twenty seven, right right now,
22:04
Speaker 2: your October rotation would be really kindly early in some
22:08
Speaker 2: question marks. Right. What I kind of laid out this
22:11
Speaker 2: morning is what could potentially fill in those blanks. Just
22:14
Speaker 2: give a quick rundown. They could see someone in Freecy.
22:19
Speaker 2: Although signing over thirty this early into your contention window
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Speaker 2: is not something teams often. I would also bring up, uh,
22:28
Speaker 2: just the prospects that could potentially fill that in. And
22:31
Speaker 2: I also talk against rookies or second ear players really
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Speaker 2: filling it and really being ready to take the ball
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Speaker 2: in October. But you have a Harley and Susanna if
22:41
Speaker 2: he's a starter, Travis Sikora, although again we'll see stealth
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Speaker 2: and the amount of innings under at least are they
22:50
Speaker 2: actually have some pretty good depth at the upper in leagues.
22:53
Speaker 2: It's about whether they have the amount of expence I've
22:59
Speaker 2: helped the Nationals towards the end of next year. The
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Speaker 2: third and maybe most angle I would talk about is
23:08
Speaker 2: really and Paul Tabun talked about this the other day,
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Speaker 2: to acquire controllable starting pitching, right, That really hurt in
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Speaker 2: my mind. That means CJ. Abrams, right. And that is
23:19
Speaker 2: not to say that they're going to DJ or that
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Speaker 2: they are explicitly going to trade him for control pitching.
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Speaker 2: But it's just hard to see them trading anything else
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Speaker 2: on this roster for the guy who's ready to start
23:30
Speaker 2: games in October. Right, And so I think I walked
23:34
Speaker 2: through a lot of the machinations of what it would
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Speaker 2: take for the Nationals to get kind of back in
23:39
Speaker 2: it on the mound, because that does more or less
23:42
Speaker 2: feel like the final big piece to this thing. And
23:45
Speaker 2: so yeah, I just recommend reading that and check on
23:48
Speaker 2: that out because there are a lot of different things
23:51
Speaker 2: to think about with this trade and what could potentially
23:54
Speaker 2: happen over the next week. So very exciting times. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: really what happens.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that time of the year, folks, that time
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Speaker 1: of the season. Strap in be ready. Wednesdays and Friday's
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Speaker 1: episodes are gonna be a lot of fun. You don't
24:08
Speaker 1: want to miss any in the future. Really quickly. Just
24:10
Speaker 1: give the roses to Curtis Meat. Thanks for all the
24:12
Speaker 1: good memories this season. Sign off today's episode with the
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Speaker 1: Sea eleta mate, but we'll be back on Wednesday. Have
24:19
Speaker 1: a good week, everybody,