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The Bolt Report | 20 Feburary · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Massive show. Tonight Peter Dutton calls foul as Labor holds
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  Speaker 2: three big citizenship ceremonies around labor marginal seats so newcomers
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  Speaker 2: can vote in time for the election. The Sky News
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  Speaker 2: Anti Semitism Summit, the Abadizi Governments Attorney General is repeatedly heckled.
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  Speaker 3: The Australian government stands with Jewish Australians in the fight
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  Speaker 3: against santi Semitism whenever and wherever it occurs.
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  Speaker 2: He also later got a slap down that you've got
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  Speaker 2: to see to believe. Also tonight, absolute madness. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: attacks Ukraine's president's a dictator and blames him for starting
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  Speaker 2: the war with Russia. Is Trump really going to abandon
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine to a general who knows Trump well? Plus a
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  Speaker 2: warning about these Chinese warships off Sydney they are planning
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  Speaker 2: for war. But first breaking news pictures just coming in
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  Speaker 2: of a maasteras finally releasing the bodies of four Jews
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  Speaker 2: they kidnapped from Israel sixteen months ago and killed or
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  Speaker 2: had die on them. Three of the Bibbus family, mother
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  Speaker 2: and the two boys, a baby and a great grandfather.
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  Speaker 2: Oh dead liftshits well. The barbaric, absolute barbaric little ritual
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  Speaker 2: there that held a posaon hamas did blaming net Yahoo
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  Speaker 2: for killing them all. I mean, seriously, it wasn't nat
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  Speaker 2: Yahoo that decided to kidnap, held hold hostage and stick
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  Speaker 2: in tunnels for the for a year or more, the
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  Speaker 2: babies and their mother. What animals would do that and
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  Speaker 2: not tell Israel that they had died and let the
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  Speaker 2: families suffer and suffer in uncertainty and grief and fear
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  Speaker 2: and panic for all these months. And now look at them,
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  Speaker 2: Look at those monsters. Look how well fed they are too.
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  Speaker 2: They all this talk about Israel using starvation as a
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  Speaker 2: weapon of war, Look at those well fed monsters dragging
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  Speaker 2: his bodies like trophies. And also to exchange for dozens
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  Speaker 2: and dozens of Palestinians that Israel has been holding in jail,
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  Speaker 2: many of them sentenced for murders, the murderers in release
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  Speaker 2: being released in exchange for the bodies of a baby
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  Speaker 2: and a four year old and their mother. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how depraved of these people. And we have still protesters
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  Speaker 2: in our streets marching in support of these animals. This
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  Speaker 2: should be a moment of clarity. Again, this is a
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  Speaker 2: war of civilization against a death cult. And I think
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  Speaker 2: watching that, watching this today, this ceremony that you just saw,
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  Speaker 2: I think Israel will be resolved to resume this war
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  Speaker 2: as soon as it's scott What remaining hostages are thinks
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  Speaker 2: that can get free from Amas you wait. But to Australia,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, people supporting this, and they live among this,
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  Speaker 2: some of them today. The Albanezy government's rescue package for
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  Speaker 2: the Wayale of steel Works, I've got to say it's frightening.
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  Speaker 2: Today the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi and the South Australian
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  Speaker 2: Premier Peter Malanawskas flew to Wale to tell the workers
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  Speaker 2: they'll spend nearly three billion dollars of your money to
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  Speaker 2: save the steel works now that it's gone bust. Told
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  Speaker 2: the workers they knew how to design it steel works
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  Speaker 2: for the future.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, we don't want to rerun, we want to set
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  Speaker 4: it up for the future. We want to do it
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  Speaker 4: properly this time. The Prime Minister of Minister HUSI get it.
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  Speaker 4: That is about a long term transition to see sustainable
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  Speaker 4: still making in this country and what we.
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  Speaker 5: Have done is to combine dollar for dollar on administration
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that while a transition is going to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that the steel works keep operating, you keep
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  Speaker 5: being paid. Between our two governments, we have two point
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  Speaker 5: four billion dollars to make sure that this transition occurs,
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  Speaker 5: and we regard that as an investment in our nation.
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  Speaker 5: We don't regard it as a cost.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've got to marry these two guys arrogance. Don't
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  Speaker 2: you mean I think these steel works went bust even
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  Speaker 2: though Albinizi and Melanalysis has really given Sanjiv Gupta, the
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  Speaker 2: green preaching shank who own that joint, sixty three million
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  Speaker 2: dollar to go green and promise hundreds of millions more
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  Speaker 2: for a green hydrogen industry there for this miracle green
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  Speaker 2: gas that Gupta convinced them the steel works would use.
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  Speaker 2: And now these same two guys who have been conned
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  Speaker 2: by that Gupta bull now say, oh, trust us, we
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  Speaker 2: know how to run a steel works for the future.
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  Speaker 2: As if I mean, is there anything in the way
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  Speaker 2: that Albany's has run this government gives you confidence that
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  Speaker 2: he now could run steel works.
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  Speaker 5: Fortunately, the workers here aren't a cynical or some in
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  Speaker 5: the media.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I am cynical Prime Minister because this rescue package
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  Speaker 2: today doesn't just include fifty million dollars for local suppliers
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  Speaker 2: who hadn't paid, plus half a billion dollars to keep
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  Speaker 2: the steel works sticking over until there's a new bar.
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  Speaker 2: That bit's excusable. But Albani is in an analysis also
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  Speaker 2: reckon they know so much about steel making that they
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  Speaker 2: will spend another one point nine billion dollars to upgrade
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  Speaker 2: the mill so it can make steel with green energy,
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  Speaker 2: expensive green energy, to make expensive green steel that maybe
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  Speaker 2: some fool will buy in a market flooded with cheap
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  Speaker 2: Chinese stuff. And by the way, not including what albany
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  Speaker 2: Is wore saying, there's another five hundred million dollars, so
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  Speaker 2: easy to another half a billion to help these steelworksco green.
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  Speaker 2: But alban Easy, who remember has never run a business
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  Speaker 2: in his life, is sure this is all going to
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  Speaker 2: be a guy.
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  Speaker 6: You bet there's a market for Australian style.
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  Speaker 2: Abananowskus has never run a business either. His whole private
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  Speaker 2: sector experience is as a checkout boy in woolies. He's
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  Speaker 2: still sucked in by the green hydrogen dream that gods
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  Speaker 2: have preached a technology not proven at scale anywhere, or
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  Speaker 2: at least man Anowskus is now humble enough to admit
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  Speaker 2: Hudreden might just have to wait a bit.
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  Speaker 4: The future of hydrogen is there, and it's clear, and
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  Speaker 4: people appreciate the necessity of it. I guess what we've
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  Speaker 4: got to make sure is that we've got a iron
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  Speaker 4: and steel making business that is there in the first instance.
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  Speaker 2: These guys know that for a fact. They're betting almost
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  Speaker 2: three billion dollars in total on that. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: just wonder if only they did their day job and
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  Speaker 2: the cut power prices instead of jacking them up with
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  Speaker 2: their green energy schemes, how many businesses would they then save, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe a steel works. Joining me is the
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  Speaker 2: Nationals front bench of Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby be great to see if should Albanizi and Premium
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  Speaker 2: Allanowskas really spend nearly three billion dollars not two point four,
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  Speaker 2: as Albanizi said, to not just keep steel works going
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  Speaker 2: before a sale, but to renovate it for a green
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  Speaker 2: steel future.
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  Speaker 7: Well, let's just have a look at their form. They've
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  Speaker 7: never run a steel works in the past, they quite
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  Speaker 7: obviously can't run on in the present, and I would
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  Speaker 7: be very dubious about whether they could ever run on
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  Speaker 7: in the future. Let's just working on logic. You've got
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  Speaker 7: to remember that what they are doing is they're going
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  Speaker 7: to see Australia. The world wants Australian steal. No, mister Albineazy,
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  Speaker 7: the world wants steel, and they don't care whether it's.
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  Speaker 2: Australian or from Guadaloupe.
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  Speaker 7: They really don't care. It's a it's a global commodity.
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  Speaker 7: But if you make steel that is dearer than other
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  Speaker 7: country steel, they won't buy it. They'll buy the cheapest steel.
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  Speaker 7: And unless you want to buy dearer cars, dear listeners,
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  Speaker 7: buy dearer cars, I bet you wouldn't even buy deer hubcap.
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  Speaker 7: You get the one that is the most affordable. And
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  Speaker 7: that's why you need affordable steel. So let's dismiss this
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  Speaker 7: idea that somehow Australia is going to present the world
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  Speaker 7: with a deer product that everybody wants to buy. That
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  Speaker 7: ain't going to happen. You're going to have cheap steel
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  Speaker 7: because that's how you stay in business. You keep your
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  Speaker 7: costs down.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I just said, get it either Bannaby to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: another thing Bandaby the something also I don't understand, but
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: maybe you were because you know, Steputy Prome Minister used
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  Speaker 2: to be privy to this kind of you know, intelligence
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  Speaker 2: briefings about what on earth was going on? Who's trying
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  Speaker 2: to get us? The head of Asia last night told
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  Speaker 2: us there were more plots than ever against Australia.
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  Speaker 8: Here is, in a small number of cases we held
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  Speaker 8: great fears for the life of the person being targeted.
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  Speaker 8: In one operation of foreigner talent servers wanted to silence
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  Speaker 8: an Australian based human rights acpookate.
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  Speaker 2: But Barnaby, what I don't get is what's the point
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  Speaker 2: of telling us that kind of stuff or in other
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  Speaker 2: plots when well, you know, when Asia refuses the name
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  Speaker 2: which countries are behind the specific plots? Why is the
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  Speaker 2: secret when the government knows who's doing it and the
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  Speaker 2: government that didn't knows has done it, but we're not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to know.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I must admit it does. It is a bit
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  Speaker 7: perplexing when someone goes to the podium and says I
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  Speaker 7: have a really I have a really great announcement to
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  Speaker 7: tell you, which I can't tell you you know, he
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  Speaker 7: sort of think, well, I get it. We all get
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  Speaker 7: that people are trying to hack into our computers.
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  Speaker 1: The Chinese, the Iranians, the.
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  Speaker 7: Russians, and North Koreans probably other ones. We know that
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  Speaker 7: we've seen them in action. And I'm sure later on
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  Speaker 7: you'll go on to the ships issue. But okay, we
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  Speaker 7: know they're there. What are we doing about it? Okay,
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  Speaker 7: what's happening? What's the plan that's going to keep us safe?
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  Speaker 7: That's what I'm really focused on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how can you prepare for a threat and
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  Speaker 2: you haven't been told what it is? I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: might want to prepare it, but you've got to maintain
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  Speaker 2: you get the public behind you to spend the extra
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  Speaker 2: dollars or whatever. And I'm not seeing us properly warned.
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  Speaker 2: But you mentioned the ships. Okay, I'll go there. The
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  Speaker 2: three Chinese ships, the three navy ships from China. They
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  Speaker 2: are sailing about one hundred and fifty nautical miles east
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  Speaker 2: of Sydney. Right they were northeast of Australia last week
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  Speaker 2: or so. Here's the Defense minister.
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  Speaker 1: We will be making sure that we watch every move.
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  Speaker 3: This is a not unprecedented, but an unusual event.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much more you can do
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  Speaker 2: than watch given that they are they're entitled to be
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  Speaker 2: where they are. But what do you think the Chinese
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  Speaker 2: ships are actually up to?
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  Speaker 7: You know, Andrew, If I was to tragically die to
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  Speaker 7: night and be buried on this ridge right here, I
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  Speaker 7: would want my epitaph to say what I've been saying
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  Speaker 7: for years and years, and we have to become as
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  Speaker 7: powerful as possible, as quickly as possible. Now, these three were,
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  Speaker 7: these three ships, these three naval ships, these three ships
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  Speaker 7: of the Chinese Communist Party were closer to Sydney the Newcastles,
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  Speaker 7: so Sydney listeners, they were just off your coast right now.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know how you intend to stop a threat
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  Speaker 7: like that. Maybe you could stop them with the intermediate
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  Speaker 7: power precincts with those wind towers.
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  Speaker 1: They just couldn't get to the beach.
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  Speaker 7: They couldn't get in because of wind towers everywhere, or
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  Speaker 7: they got closer. Maybe you could squirt them with green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 7: I think you have to understand that the realism of
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  Speaker 7: the time we are in has to descend on us.
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  Speaker 7: We have to have this ephany. We have to understand
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  Speaker 7: of the threat that's before us. Remember, the comparable power
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  Speaker 7: of the PLA of the Chinese Communist Party, of their
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  Speaker 7: military might, is vastly greater than the comparable power of
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  Speaker 7: Germany before the Second World War.
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  Speaker 2: Vastly greater.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, So this is we have to understand the world
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  Speaker 7: we live in and we then be focused on a
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  Speaker 7: whole range of distractions which are not going to scare anybody,
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  Speaker 7: but they're actually going to make us weaker and look foolish.
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  Speaker 2: Look if they only made us look foolish, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: mind quite so much, but they could do a lot
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  Speaker 2: more damage than that. They're going to be joyce, thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Donald Trump, has he
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  Speaker 2: gone nuts? I mean, this man who said he'd make
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  Speaker 2: him America strong is now being played by Russian President
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  Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, even shamefully now repeating Putin's lies to smear
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine's president and bring him down. And I think this
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  Speaker 2: is the time for everyone who supports Trump as I
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  Speaker 2: have to speak out to save him in the US
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  Speaker 2: from this disgrace if we can, and from a danger.
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  Speaker 2: Last night, as Russian missiles and drones once more hit Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: killing civilians, Trump put out an hysterical post calling the
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  Speaker 2: Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelenski a dictator for postponing elections during
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  Speaker 2: this war. He said he was a dictator without elections,
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  Speaker 2: and he warns Zelenski better move fast except the peace deal,
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  Speaker 2: that is, or he is not going to have a
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  Speaker 2: country left. Trump also implied Selenski had ripped off American
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  Speaker 2: military assistance. And this comes after a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: of Trump telling other lies against Zelenski. They can only
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  Speaker 2: have come from Putin or Putin puppets like Tucker Carlson,
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  Speaker 2: like Zelensky having almost no support in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 9: Well, we have a situation where we haven't had elections
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  Speaker 9: in Ukraine, where we have martial law, essentially martial law
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  Speaker 9: in Ukraine, where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I
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  Speaker 9: hate to say it, but he's down at four percent
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  Speaker 9: approval rating.
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  Speaker 2: Four percent. And this lie that Zelensky, not Putin started
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  Speaker 2: this war. You should have never started it. You could
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  Speaker 2: have made a deal. And Trump even demanded Ukraine pay America,
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  Speaker 2: effectively crippling reparations like it was a defeated enemy or thief.
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  Speaker 2: Trump said, give the US seven hundred and fifty billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars seven hundred and fifty billion half of ukraine revenue
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  Speaker 2: from natural resources ports in infrastructure as the price of
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  Speaker 2: US defense. Selenskia had to refuse this kind offer, this
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  Speaker 2: demand because although he himself had suggested a deal, it
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  Speaker 2: was on the proviso that Trump then guaranteed Ukraine's security
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  Speaker 2: for against more Russian aggression, which Trump had not in
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  Speaker 2: his demand. This is all so disgracefully wrong. It's also
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  Speaker 2: Putin's spin. Oh, it's Ukraine to blame. Ukraine's leader is
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  Speaker 2: a crook and a Nazi who's got to go. Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: has got to give in. Now, Zelenski doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: get into open brawl with Trump, but he did blame
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  Speaker 2: Putin for Trump's spin.
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  Speaker 10: We understand where it's coming from Russia, and we have
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  Speaker 10: evidence that these figures are being discussed between the US
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  Speaker 10: and Russia. Unfortunately, President Trump, whom we deeply respect as
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  Speaker 10: the leader of a nation we highly value, is also
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  Speaker 10: caught in the disinformation space. I would like to see
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  Speaker 10: more truth from Trump's teams.
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  Speaker 2: Now, before I get it to why Trump is probably
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  Speaker 2: doing this, let me nail his lies here, because they
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  Speaker 2: are lies, or maybe it's just grossly misled by that
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous son of his Don Junior, or the likes of
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson or whatever Celeinsky's popularity. It's not four percent.
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  Speaker 2: It is fifty seven percent according to the latest poll,
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  Speaker 2: which means Zelenski is much more popular in Ukraine than
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  Speaker 2: Trump is in the United States. Trump approval rating is
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  Speaker 2: around forty nine percent. Now, it's true Selenski did postpone elections,
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  Speaker 2: just like Winston Churchill postponed elections in Britain in World
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  Speaker 2: War II. For the obvious reason it's almost impossible to
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  Speaker 2: hold secure elections during war with so many soldiers fighting,
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  Speaker 2: in particular, and it's also dangerous, it's divisive, it's a
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  Speaker 2: distraction of everyone, including the leadership, and in this case,
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  Speaker 2: also gives Putin the chance to rig the result like
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  Speaker 2: he's tried in so many other countries. And as for
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  Speaker 2: America's assistance to Ukraine, that's actually helped America. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of that money has actually gone to American companies to
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  Speaker 2: build advanced weapons for the United States, with Ukraine then
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  Speaker 2: getting the old stuff. But the most disgusting perversion here
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  Speaker 2: is this idea that Ukraine started this war Ukraine three
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  Speaker 2: years ago. Next Monday, when Ukrainians woke up to the
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  Speaker 2: shocking news that Russian troops were invading, pouring in from
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  Speaker 2: three directions, bombing all over the country, missiles everywhere. That
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  Speaker 2: already taking Crimea in twenty fourteen, now we're coming to
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  Speaker 2: take the rest. So why would Trump be telling such obvious,
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  Speaker 2: obvious lies and threatening and bullying and smearing Zelenski like this? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, maybe it is yet another case of Trump
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  Speaker 2: just trying to get a good deal, say outrageous things,
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  Speaker 2: set up something different less, but it could also be
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  Speaker 2: about pride. Trump promised in the election that he would
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  Speaker 2: stop this war in a day, even said in a day.
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  Speaker 2: But he can't make Russia stop right now. If Ladimir
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  Speaker 2: Putin the war crinel, the economy is in crisis, and
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  Speaker 2: the stalk is really going to collapse in on itself
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  Speaker 2: by the end of this year. But it's still too strong,
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  Speaker 2: too desperate to merciless to be forced to stop right now.
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  Speaker 2: But Ukraine is much smaller and weaker. It could be
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  Speaker 2: crippled by Trump. It could be bullied into giving up
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  Speaker 2: a lot of its territory of Russia to stop this war,
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  Speaker 2: until Putin, of course, comes back to the rest and
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  Speaker 2: then Trump at least in the meantime it's got his headline.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say that what Trump is saying at
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  Speaker 2: least seems to embarrass some of his key officials. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you don't hear these laves from Marco Rubio, his Secretary
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  Speaker 2: of State. I mean General Keith Kellogg, who's Trump's special
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: envoy for Ukraine, arrived to give yesterday to talk to Zelenski.
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  Speaker 2: At least he sounded much more sympathetic.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna listen, we will you know, we're we understand
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  Speaker 1: the need for security guaranteed.
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  Speaker 11: We entered Jerry Cleards the important sovereignty of this nation,
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  Speaker 11: in the defense of this nations were ot and we're
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  Speaker 11: going to a part of our mission is to sit
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  Speaker 11: and listen and say what are your concerned? Where we
• 19:30
  Speaker 11: asked we can go back to the United States, talk
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  Speaker 11: to President Trump and Secretary were.
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  Speaker 1: Real and the rest of the team and just ensure
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  Speaker 1: that we are we get this one right.
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  Speaker 2: And there's the reason why many of Trump's team and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a number of Republican congressmen are saying, Oh, it's because
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: what Trump's saying is not just wrong and im moral,
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  Speaker 2: it's also a danger to America and the world if
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: he were to in to Russia and to Russia's ally China,
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  Speaker 2: if he were to punish a country for simply defending
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: itself against invasion, like Britain defended itself World War Two.
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  Speaker 2: If he were to do that, China would conclude that
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  Speaker 2: America would also dump Taiwan or any other ally like
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: he now seems to be contemplating dumping Ukraine betraying Ukraine.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Joining me is General Jack Keen, who was Vice Chief
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: of Staff of the United States Army, four star general
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: who is now chairman of the Institute for the Study
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: of War. General Keane, thanks once again for joining us.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I have to say I've been really disappointed and disturbed
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: by what I'm hearing from Donald Trump. Normally I'm a
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: big support of his foreign policies, but can you explain
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to me why he is now smearing the Ukrainian president
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: as a dictator, the man who started this war, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: a former comedian now ruining his country.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, certainly these statements that President Trump made are
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: really unfortunate, to say the least, and I think at
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the heart of this is a couple of frustrations. Number One,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: President Zelenski was presented a deal by the Treasury Secretary
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of the United States a few days ago, and given
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the realities of that deal, President Zelenski was not able
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to sign it. It doesn't mean that he wouldn't sign
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it eventually, but the deal had to do with the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: minerals and the United States investment in those minerals some
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: twenty six trillion minerals inside Ukraine that have been documented
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: by a Canadian geological survey company. And President Trump seized
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: those minerals as a way of returning to the American
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: tax the money that has already been allotted in support
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of Ukraine over the three years in the war. And
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I think he got very frustrated at President Zelenski rejected it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: His second thing that's been a source of frustration is
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I believe President Zelensky overreacted to not being invited to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the meeting in Saudi Arabia between the Russian negotiating team
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and the United States negotiating team. I know for a
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: fact that when President Trump called Putin last Wednesday, he
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: didn't know for sure. That is, President Trump didn't know
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: whether Putin was serious about going into negotiations, and out
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of that conversation. He concluded it was obvious that Putin
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was willing to meet and give it a try. At
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the same time, he didn't know for sure if this
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: was part of Putin's bluffing, manipulating, or was he sincere.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So the meeting took place in Saudi Arabia was largely
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to feel out the Russian negotiating team if they had
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the power to act on Putin's behalf and move towards
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: some kind of a compromise. And it was not appropriate
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: at that time for Zelenski or his team to be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: at that negotiations in my view, and that was the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: view of the Americans who were dealing with it. Andrew.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: As unfortunate as the statements have been, I do believe
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: this is resolvable. And the reality is, why do I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think that because President Trump and President Zelenski want the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that your take is correct, that this
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is what we've seen for years now Trump's negotiating style.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see him be as tough on Putin
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: as he was on Zelensky, and it's been very damaging
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: for Zelenski. But you have talked to General Kellogg, So
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: where I think that you have a bit of steer
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: on where this is all going. You also gave testimony
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: last week, and this feeds into this general You gave
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: testimony last week to the House Services Committee on preparing
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: for this global threat environment, and I think this feeds
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: into it in this way because you were talking about
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: America facing real challenges now are not being prepared for them,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the military threat and particularly now China, because it is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: taking heart out of any sign that America is going
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: weak on defending something like Ukraine. Tell us your main
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: points in your address.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, My concern is that the threats that we're facing
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: from China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea together collectively, you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: all working together. There's access of nations that oppose the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: United States and like minded the micro We haven't seen
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: anything quite like that since World War Two. And the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: reality is the last time we were prepared for conflict
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in multiple theaters was during the Cold War, and we
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: were prepared. But when the Congressional Commission I was on,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: we issued a bipartisan, unanimous report. We believe we're not
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: prepared today to fight a war in multiple theaters. In
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: other words, if war broke out in the Indo Pacific region,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and we would be challenged there to win, and indeed
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: could lose because China outguns US and out demands us
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: on every major platform except submarines. We have to rebuild
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the United States military to establish effective deterrence, particularly in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the Indo Pacific region general.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: They don't know whether you're aware of that, but we're
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: getting a little warning right now from China. We've had
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: three naval ships come I think within one hundred and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: fifty kilometers south of Sydney having a little sniff around.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think they've ever been in that part of
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the world for a long time. I mean, should we
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: be alarmed by them testing.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Us like this? Yes, I mean China has become considerably
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: more aggressive in the end of Pacific region, and particularly
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Taiwan. Back in twenty eighteen to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, there was several violations of the Air Defense
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Identification Zone in the airspace around Taiwan. A few years ago,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: there were several hundred. Last year in twenty twenty three.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Over a year ago, there was seventeen hundred and one
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty four, or over three thousand. So
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: China has completely stepped up their aggression not just of Taiwan,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: but of Japan, of the Philippines, of Vietnam. And now,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: as you're pointing out incidents involving Australia itself, President She
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: is preparing for war and he sended a signal that
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he's also ready to act when he makes that decision.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: What we have to do is deter that from happening.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Put it in President She's mind what we did with
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the Soviet Union during the Cold War. We could impose
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: costs on them and put in doubt whether their campaign
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: could be successful or not. That is called deterrence. It
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: was credible they could see it because we exercised it
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: right in front of them every two years, tens of
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: thousands of troops and airpower involved in those exercises. That
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: they saw what we had in mind. They knew we
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: were committed to fight them if necessary. That's credible deterrence.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: The capability is there, and the will to use it
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: as there.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Well, America is going to have to lift its defense
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: spending from three point five percent of GDP, which is
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a pretty big low compared to when you were talking
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: about America. Dida that capacity, and we have to do
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the same, so a lot of work to do. General Keene,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah great, chokingly are you Andrew and your audience as always.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: After the break, I hope the Prime Minister will be
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: watching because Anthony Albanez's Attorney General got heckled by Jews
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: at our Anti Smators of summit and there's a message there.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: The Australian government has expressly condemned words and acts of
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: hate directed at Jewish people.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Plus the immigration ministers meanwhile holding mass and citizens ceremonies
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: for thousands of new voters around labor marginal seats. The
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Sky News antisemitism but at Sydney's Central Synagogue today was brilliant.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It's such a tribute to my colleague Harry marx In
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and no doubts have more to say about that straight
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: after my show was a real tribute to her. But
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: also I think sent a very important message, including to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the Albanze government. There was one part in particular that
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: should shock it. Have a look at this.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Australian government stands with Jewish Australians in the fight against
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: anti Semitism whenever and wherever it occurs. Since the very
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: first protest in Australia that crossed the line from legitimate
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: political expression to expressions of anti Semitic sentiment. The Australian
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: government has expressly condemned words and acts of hate directed
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: at Jewish people. The Albanize government has not just talked
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: about anti semitism.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: We have acted and we will keep acting.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: That was the Attorney General of the Albanza government, Mark Dreyfus,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: himself a Jew, clearly discomfited by the fact that he
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: was being heckled by other Jews when he tried to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: defend the Albanese government's pathetic response initially to the anti
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Semitism that has burst metastasized all over this country. Unbelievably,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it got worse.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Dreyfus, then, anti Semitism cannot and must not be weaponized
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: in the pursuit of votes. It must not be weaponized
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: in the pursuit of newspaper sales or TV ratings either.
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: I hope that suggestion wasn't that our newspapers or television
• 30:44
  Speaker 12: stations are weaponizing this, because we certainly are not. We
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: are defending our values and trying to ensure.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: That was our Sharry Markson, of course, giving Dreyfus a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: little SmackDown for that appalling suggestion. I don't know whether
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he meant it. Maybe it was, and Charry also congratulated
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: him for coming and giving a speech at least, But honestly,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: that tells you something terrible about the feeling among Jewish
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: people about what this government has been doing or not doing,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: in the face of this amazing challenge to our sense
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: of togetherness in this country. Join me is the panel
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: James md Ferson from the late debate here on Sky News.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Nevelyn Ray, Farmer, former policewoman and sky News regular James.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Charry did thank Dreyfus warmly for turning up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: This wasn't a setup. But what does that reaction from
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the Jews in the audience to him to the government
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: tell you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Well, it tells me that the Jews in that audience
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: have zero faith in this government's ability or willingness to
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: do what it takes to protect them. Mark Dreyfus had
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: the misfortune of speaking after John Howard and before New
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: South Wales Premier Chris Mins, which means he had to
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: speak in between two leaders and a leader he was not.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: He stood up there and began with Andrew, can you
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: believe it? An acknowledgment of country? So people were groaning
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: before he'd even gotten into the content of his speech.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: And then as you showed viewers there, he continually talked
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: about what this government was doing, only to be met
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: with derision from the audience. And pretty quickly Mark Dreyfus
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: started reading his speech like it was a shopping list.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: He had the demeanor of a man who just wanted
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: to finish the speech and then get out of there
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: as quickly as he possibly could. There was zero empathy,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: zero passion, zero conviction. Honestly, it was like he was
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: reading from a telephone book. It was like he just
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: wanted to get the speech done and get on out
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: of there, which pretty much represents what most of us
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: have felt about this government's attitude to the entire issue
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: of anti Semitism. They just wanted to go away and
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: get on with their lives. It wasn't good enough. He
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: would have been better not to have been there at
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: all than to deliver that speech. I was in the audience,
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: and I got to tell you, that is one of
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: the worst speeches I have heard in my life, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I've heard a few.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And I thought it was particularly graceless. He complained, oh
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: politicization of this issue, and then in his speech instead
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: of a few paragraphs about how the Liberals have been
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: mean to him, yes in Parliament as a Jewish man.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, this guy is so tone deaf. I've
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: had my own history with him. But anyway, meanwhile, Evelyn,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. I don't know, maybe there's nothing to
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: this immigration Minster. Tony Burke. He is conducting a blitz
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: of citizenship ceremonies, three on the weekend ahead of the election,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: so new citizens can vote in time. But this is
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: such a big and unusual push, with six thousand new
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: citizens expected this week. Of book's three ceremonies at Sydney's
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Olympic Park on the weekend near marginal electorates, Labor actually
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: needs the whole heavily moves to them one some of
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: them opportunity to pet it up, add the same antisemitism summit,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: smell the rat.
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: Here is the reality is that Tony Burke is spending
• 34:12
  Speaker 13: today and the rest of this week, as I understand it,
• 34:15
  Speaker 13: conducting as many citizenship ceremonies as you can in literally
• 34:18
  Speaker 13: putting thousands of people through an express citizenship process so
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: that they can vote in the election within a few weeks,
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: which I think is quite remarkable.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And I just question whether there has been any.
• 34:34
  Speaker 13: Slackening of the process, whether there has been any compromise
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: on the security checks, and whether it's in our country's
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: best interests for people to receive citizenship before the proper
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: security checks have been undertaken, or people have had within
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: the Home Affairs Department the time to be able to
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: conduct the searches that we would expect to be conducted.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Devin Ray, is this suspicious or is Peter's aunt and
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: drawing their rather long bow. Of course it's suspicious.
• 35:06
  Speaker 14: In fact, it sounds so dodgy that when this was
• 35:10
  Speaker 14: shared on social media you had people in the comments
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: section asking for fact checkers.
• 35:14
  Speaker 15: I mean, no one ever really asks for that. But
• 35:16
  Speaker 15: people could not believe where this was coming from. I mean,
• 35:20
  Speaker 15: how could they be so seemingly blatant. You know, that's
• 35:24
  Speaker 15: three days.
• 35:25
  Speaker 14: Of citizens inship ceremonies, as many as six thousand non
• 35:29
  Speaker 14: Australians in electorates that Labor is desperate to hold.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Just say it out loud a few times.
• 35:35
  Speaker 15: You know, they aren't even trying to hide it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 14: The Telegraph also said that Burke will host twenty five
• 35:41
  Speaker 14: pre election ceremonies giving citizenship to up to twelve five
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: hundred people before March the fourth. This just looks like
• 35:50
  Speaker 14: they've taken a playbook straight out of the Democratic Party.
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: I mean, next we'll see Burke loitering around ceram, around
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: cemeteries or something like that, trying to gather the extra votes.
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: You know, if you can't convince Australians to vote for you,
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: import people who will.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: It's just not even mentioning a housing crisis.
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: It's utterly disgusting and we can see straight through it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Jameson person, what do you think well, I mean, Andrew,
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: you've heard of branch stacking. This is electorate stacking, isn't it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: I've heard a rumor that on the back of the
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: citizenship certificates there's a little how to vote cards signed
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: with love from Labor. Now I don't know if that's true,
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: but nothing would surprise me Andrew. This is clearly dodgy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is a government that said, no, no,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: we give local councils complete autonomy as to how they
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: run citizenship ceremonies when they run them, doesn't have to
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: be Australia Day.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Whatever you want.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: You guys take care of it now. All of a sudden,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: with an election just perhaps weeks away, Labor are very
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: interested in citizenship ceremonies, so much so they wanted to
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: be running them. And Tony Burke is there personally handing
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: out the certificates. It's dodgy as.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe they should hold them just before Australia they see
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: whether he does the same. Evelyn, I've run out of time,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: but I wanted to quickly ask you one thing. I
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: think Peter Dutton is cutting through. I mean, last Sunday
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: he was interviewed by Karl Stephanovic on Channel nine sixty minutes.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: They normally interviews with political leaders their ratings. Poison asked
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: me about that, but this was a rating smash for
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: sixty minutes, six hundred and twenty eight thousand views in
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the five city metros, and that's after nine pm. That
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: is actually those are huge numbers. What do you conclude
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: from that?
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: I think people are so desperate to have anything but Albo.
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: They're looking around, they are so hopeful that it's going.
• 37:38
  Speaker 15: To be dott and they want Dutton to be like Trump.
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: I mean, Dutton could really be impressive here. He could
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: really go down as an impressive Australian politician that will
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: be remembered. Problem that we are faced with. He needs
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: to be a heck of a lot less like Albo
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: and a heck of a lot more like Trump.
• 37:53
  Speaker 16: Time will tell.
• 37:54
  Speaker 17: Whether he can do that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: James the first eleventh and a Ray, Thank you very
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: much to you both after the break. How a bank
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: made a business agree to its huge, woke agenda when
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: all the business wanted was alone. In the United States,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has to his credit, a declared war on diversity,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: equity and inclusion programs. There's divide people, in fact, buried
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: bosses of red tape stuff, governments full of bureaucrats. We
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: need someone here to take an ax to something similar,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the whole ESG nonsense, the environmental, social and
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: governance agenda that is imposed on business. I'll show you
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: an example. This is an email that the Comewealth Bank
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: sent a supplier to the gas industry that just wanted
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a loan. But to get that loan, well, the bank
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: said to the company, You've got to commit to thirty
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: seven different crusades of ours and biodiversity and pollution, a workplace,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: health and safety, on labor, arts and modern slavery, on
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the supposed climate, physical risk and climate and energy, on water,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: anti corruption and governance said god knows what. And that's
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: on top of simply asking the business can you pay
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the loan? Can you prove you can?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Join?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Miss Freed a liberal MP Garth Hamilton, who has campaigned
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: against this unbelievable red tape sticking noses into other people's business.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Woke tape? Should I say, Garth Hamilton, great to see
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you saw this list. What does it tell you?
• 39:33
  Speaker 16: Well, Saldly, look, this is a shocking list and as
• 39:35
  Speaker 16: you go through it takes such a long time to
• 39:37
  Speaker 16: read each of the excessive requirements and hurt or someone
• 39:41
  Speaker 16: has to jump through. This is one of several cases
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: that have been brought forward Andrew that I've seen. This
• 39:46
  Speaker 16: is a widespread practice. Unfortunately, we call it debanking. This
• 39:49
  Speaker 16: is where banks use these processes, use ESG principles to
• 39:53
  Speaker 16: deny financing to certain businesses in certain industries that they
• 39:56
  Speaker 16: don't like.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It.
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: To be very clear, Andrew, these are legitimate businesses working
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: in projects that have gone through approval processes at state
• 40:03
  Speaker 16: and federal level. There's no suggestion that these aren't legitimate projects.
• 40:06
  Speaker 16: It shouldn't be going ahead. They've all been all gone
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: through all of the tick boxes that every level of
• 40:10
  Speaker 16: government can put on them. And yet what we're seeing
• 40:14
  Speaker 16: is certain banks are pushed back against this. There was
• 40:16
  Speaker 16: a very public case a company called T. P. Bennett
• 40:19
  Speaker 16: and Sons tried to get finance to do work in
• 40:22
  Speaker 16: the forestry industry in Tasmania and they were blocked. Adelaide
• 40:26
  Speaker 16: and Bendigo Bank said no on the grounds that this
• 40:29
  Speaker 16: was against what they know an area they didn't want
• 40:31
  Speaker 16: to be investing in or putting finance into in the
• 40:34
  Speaker 16: forestry industry in Tasmania. Absolutely extraordinary banks exist in a
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  Speaker 16: very privileged situation Andrew they get a lot of support
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  Speaker 16: and you know that they're set up by government legislation
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  Speaker 16: to enable them to make the profits they make. The
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  Speaker 16: simple explanation that they put forward is that these ESG
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  Speaker 16: policies align somehow with some greater cultural need.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure they do well. They don't give the
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  Speaker 2: couple of banking effect. It's almost the possible to squeeze
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  Speaker 2: alone out of it for a coal project that's not
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  Speaker 2: in our national interests. I would have thought we very
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: much need coal for what is it, two thirds of
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: our electricity almost? I mean, it's ridiculous, but a good sign, Garth,
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  Speaker 2: I hope it is. You tell me. Australian Stock Exchanged
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  Speaker 2: Corporate Governance Council has finally dropped plans to force companies
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: to report in their director's diversity characteristics including their sexuality,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: their age, their Aboriginal heritage, what we've got to be
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: racist now and disabilities. The union super funds who are
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: pushing this, is there a growing revolt against this ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: praying into, you know, peeking into the pants or whatever
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  Speaker 2: of directors? And is that inspired maybe by Trump?
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  Speaker 16: Look, I don't know where it's inspired from. I think
• 41:52
  Speaker 16: it actually has been going on for a little while.
• 41:54
  Speaker 16: It's just finally finding its voice. Andandrey and I think
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  Speaker 16: this is a great thing because it's not requiring government intervention.
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  Speaker 16: This is the Australian people speaking with common sense and
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  Speaker 16: pushing back against the sort of things that divide us.
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  Speaker 2: Unnecessarily.
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  Speaker 16: There's no reason for a company director to have to
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  Speaker 16: make these sort of disclosures.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make anything better.
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  Speaker 16: The idea that somehow this is advancing Western civilization or
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  Speaker 16: making Australia a better place to live in is absolutely absurd.
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  Speaker 16: I think it's fantastic to see people getting in and
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  Speaker 16: doing this in the common sense coming forward.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to see a lot.
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  Speaker 16: More of it because I think the whole ESG industry,
• 42:30
  Speaker 16: whether it raises its ugly head in the debanking space
• 42:34
  Speaker 16: or whether it is controlling appointees to certain boards, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: think it needs to go away. I think that time
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  Speaker 16: has gone absolutely, You're right, all the things that are
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  Speaker 16: happened in America, this is a positive one.
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  Speaker 2: And geth Hamilton. I've got to thank you for the
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  Speaker 2: work that you've been doing to try and fight this
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: sort of thing. Thank you very much for your time
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: after the break. How Britain's BBC. This is an incredible story,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: how Britain's BBC got fooled into running an hour of
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: propaganda by the hamash terist group. I'm a former foreign correspondent.
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  Speaker 2: It stuns me how naive news organizations can be taking
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  Speaker 2: reports from places like Gaza, which even now is still
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: run by Hamas terrorists. I mean places where no journalists
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  Speaker 2: can operate and survive without towing the line you take
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  Speaker 2: the BBC Now On Monday, Britain's state broadcaster ran an
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  Speaker 2: hour long documentary on how four children in Gaza trying
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: to survive the bombs and bullets of those wicked Jews
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: sorry Israeli's It was a narrated by one of them,
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  Speaker 2: thirteen year old Abdullah.
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  Speaker 18: Have you ever wondered what you'd do if your old
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  Speaker 18: was destroyed? Could you live in a tent, raise your babies?
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  Speaker 18: Would you help people? Would you try and have some fun?
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  Speaker 18: Most important, could you sell your line?
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  Speaker 2: Almost? No reviewer of Red thought, hey, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: how could a journis get all that access for so
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  Speaker 2: long in Gaza without Hamas knowing or controlling what was filmed?
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  Speaker 2: Instead rave reviews. Exceptional documentary, said The Times. Many deeply
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  Speaker 2: distressing moments, said The Guardian, and in the Telegraph, heartrending.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with limiting a film to one side of
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: this conflict? Well, actually there is list in this case.
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  Speaker 2: An anti Semitism researcher David Collier asked the same questions
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: that I have, how could this film actually get made?
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  Speaker 2: And he found that that boy Abdullah had also been
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: used earlier in a news item with a man claiming
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  Speaker 2: to be his father. He wasn't, of course, it was
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: an uncle, as a social media post revealed. So why
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the lie, Well, because at Dullah's real father is this
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  Speaker 2: man third from the left in Hamas's colors. I'm an
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  Speaker 2: al Yazuri, the Deputy Agriculture Minister in the Hamas government,
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  Speaker 2: and his father's father is his father. The boys' grandma
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  Speaker 2: father is a founder of Hamas, which makes Abdullah Hamas
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  Speaker 2: Royalty the royalty of a terrorist group. And this documentary
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  Speaker 2: is in fact Hamas propaganda. Run for an hour on
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  Speaker 2: the BBC joined me from London as Patrick Christy's star
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  Speaker 2: presenter on GV News. Patrick, this is unbit believable. How
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  Speaker 2: on earth did it happen?
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  Speaker 17: Well, it's happened because the BBC is now a taxpayer
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  Speaker 17: funded Hamas propaganda channel, a hotbed of far left political bias.
• 45:37
  Speaker 17: Sound a bit of world ideology mixed in That child up, dully,
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  Speaker 17: you were saying absolutely right, the son of a Hamas minister,
• 45:45
  Speaker 17: or some people are saying, well he was only deputy
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  Speaker 17: agriculture minister.
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  Speaker 1: Well I don't think it really matters, does it really?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: The cameraman.
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  Speaker 17: It gets worse though, Andrew gets worse because one of
• 45:55
  Speaker 17: the videographers was on Facebook praising the October seventh of
• 45:59
  Speaker 17: Time called it the flood. So the bloke in front
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  Speaker 17: of the camera as the child of ham As Royalty.
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  Speaker 17: The blow behind the camera appears to be very supportive
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  Speaker 17: of Hamas as well.
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  Speaker 1: Did they pay them is the big question now, isn't
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  Speaker 1: they because if they.
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  Speaker 17: Did, then that would have been money that's gone to
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  Speaker 17: a terrorist organization, which.
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  Speaker 1: Would I think be a criminal offense.
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  Speaker 17: But that doesn't really matter for the BBC because the
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  Speaker 17: other thing they refused to do is really cool hamas terrorists.
• 46:24
  Speaker 17: They say that the British government certifies them as terrorists.
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  Speaker 17: They tries to get around it that way. They've previously
• 46:31
  Speaker 17: had one of their foreign correspondents blame Israel for bombing
• 46:34
  Speaker 17: a hospital when it turned out that haw Mass actually
• 46:36
  Speaker 17: bombed their own hospital, and they recently referred to Israeli
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  Speaker 17: hostages as prisoners, for which they had to apologize. There's
• 46:43
  Speaker 17: numerous reports of bias behind the scenes at the BBC,
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  Speaker 17: including a staff day where employees were told to turn
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  Speaker 17: up wearing the colors of the Palestinian flag. Jewish members
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  Speaker 17: of staff then resigned over this. They've come under massive
• 46:57
  Speaker 17: pressure to release a clarification. They Collier that you mentioned
• 47:01
  Speaker 17: names on my show earlier. They released a sort of
• 47:04
  Speaker 17: clarification of sorts, but they aren't going to rerun this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, they are I mean, yeah, did they actually know?
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  Speaker 2: Did they actually know Abdullah was the son of a
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  Speaker 2: Hamas minister and the grandson of a Hamas founder and
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the cameraman was actually a Hamas supporter?
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  Speaker 17: They say no, And they say, well, we outsourced this
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  Speaker 17: to some kind of production company. I mean, goodness, greacious
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  Speaker 17: me kind of which kind of production company is allowed
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  Speaker 17: to operate with impunity and gars?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I mean it shouldn't take much opportunity together.
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  Speaker 17: They claim that no, they've outsourced this, and so you
• 47:44
  Speaker 17: know they they are shocked as we are, Andrew, they
• 47:46
  Speaker 17: are shocked as we are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I Scoff has silly of me to be so
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  Speaker 2: cynical twice in one show. But what makes this even
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  Speaker 2: crazier what you just said, Patrick, is that the BBC
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: two years ago boasted that they didn't set up a
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: unit to fight this information Patrick, and said it this
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: unit comprised about sixty journalists with a range of forensic
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  Speaker 2: investigative skills and open source intelligence capabilities at their fingertips,
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  Speaker 2: and they would be fact checking, verifying video, encountering disinformation.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Why didn't those sixty BBC checkers verify their own video?
• 48:29
  Speaker 17: Well, they paid one hundred thousand pounds of taxpayers money
• 48:32
  Speaker 17: a month to do this, and they decided that they
• 48:34
  Speaker 17: obviously couldn't look into this. It's because actually, despite all
• 48:37
  Speaker 17: of this, they still managed to relentlessly flood the audience
• 48:40
  Speaker 17: with Labor Party activists claiming to be things like dogs,
• 48:42
  Speaker 17: as nurses and lawyers, et cetera. But just quickly and
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  Speaker 17: on this, even if you don't want the BBC anymore,
• 48:48
  Speaker 17: you will be made to pay the BBC license fee.
• 48:50
  Speaker 17: People who just watch Netflix and Disney Plus can be
• 48:53
  Speaker 17: made to pay the BBC license fee. We are all
• 48:56
  Speaker 17: being made to pay for this rubbish. It's a tax
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  Speaker 17: on television that goes directly into the pockets of the
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  Speaker 17: BBC so they can pump this ham ass guff down
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  Speaker 17: our throats.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't expect me to put on my shop
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  Speaker 2: face there, Patrick, because that's exactly the same story here
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  Speaker 2: that we have to pay our ABC even though they've
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: got people there that are so pro anti Israel that
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: it's disgusting.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: But what can we do.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Keep fighting is what we can do and offer a
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: better alternative, as you do there and we do here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Patrick Christie's thanks for your time. That's it from me.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Coming up now is Sharry Markson. I've got to again
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  Speaker 2: congratulate on that stunning ability, that stunning anti Semitism conference today.
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  Speaker 2: Take it away, Sharry