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9-29 H2: Gregg Bell Joins, MNFB, Fact or Fiction ABC's · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, running a little bit late here.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get caught up. It is Chuck Anders and Christopher Kidd. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's the headline here today in your Frostbrook Coors Light
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  Speaker 2: Cold as the Rockies headlines. He has returned to Sports
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  Speaker 2: Radio 93.3 KJR FM on a permanent full-time basis. Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Kidd back here on our airwaves as the brand new
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  Speaker 2: producer of the Chuck in the Mornings radio program. I
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  Speaker 2: told you a third move was coming, and here it is,
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  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it good to have him back?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're not like the Kraken? You don't tell
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  Speaker 3: us that moves are coming in the offseason and then
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  Speaker 3: nothing happens?
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  Speaker 1: I am nothing like the Kraken. That is very clear.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of the Kraken, not only is Kid back on
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  Speaker 2: a Tuesday, Kraken Ticket Tuesday is back as well. Be
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  Speaker 2: but to the home opener October 4th against the Calgary Flames.
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  Speaker 2: So be listening every hour. We've already played the sounder once.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do it throughout our broadcast day through all of
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  Speaker 2: the shows, including the Greg Bell show, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: will be joining us here in a matter of seconds
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  Speaker 2: with his daily segment. But let's get through the rest
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  Speaker 2: of your headlines here. As the NHL season does start tonight,
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  Speaker 2: Kraken won't play until Thursday and it will be at Calgary.
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  Speaker 2: College football week number five. UW will play on the
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  Speaker 2: road for the first time this year. They'll take on
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  Speaker 2: the USC Trojans. Rick Neuheisel will join us today at
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  Speaker 2: 9 o'clock to discuss that.
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  Speaker 1: Monday night football.
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  Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears won over the Philadelphia Eagles 27-7 last night.
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  Speaker 2: And Case Keenum led them to the victory. Seahawks dealing
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  Speaker 2: with their first loss in quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: Nine months? Is that how long it's been since the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks dealt with a loss?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how they're going to conduct themselves when
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  Speaker 2: we talk to Greg here in a moment. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: for Major League Baseball, the playoffs start today at 11 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Phillies at the Atlanta Braves. Red Sox and Yankees play
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  Speaker 2: tonight at 5 o'clock. There's a Red Sox-Yankees playoff game
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  Speaker 2: tonight at 5 o'clock. Aaron Judge, it has been announced,
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  Speaker 2: breaking news, that he will not, even though he tried
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  Speaker 2: to get back in time for this series, he will
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  Speaker 2: not be available to the Yankees. Still no news as
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  Speaker 2: to whether or not Garrett Crochet will be available to
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox. He's missed most of the season with
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  Speaker 2: an injury. And, of course, we are reacting throughout the
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  Speaker 2: course of the day to the Jerry DiPoto press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Still a lot more for Anders, Chris, and I to
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  Speaker 2: discuss before 10 o'clock comes to a close. But right
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  Speaker 2: now it's time to talk some Seahawks football with Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 4: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
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  Speaker 4: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit
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  Speaker 4: visit EmeraldQueen.com. Good morning, Greg.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Was it nice to talk to Christopher Kidd this morning?
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  Speaker 5: It was awesome, man. Good to hear from him. It's really,
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  Speaker 5: really great. Welcome back, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: We all love Chris, but I think maybe Greg loves
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  Speaker 1: Chris the most.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We went every day for pretty much damn near a
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  Speaker 5: year in 2024 together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll catch him, Chris, while you're away.
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  Speaker 2: He was just like doodling on his notepad, just like
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  Speaker 2: putting Chris, you know, writing your name down.
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  Speaker 1: And things like that. Weren't you? Wasn't that accurate?
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  Speaker 5: Chris, if you had a locker, I would have been
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  Speaker 5: shoving notes into your locker.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Greg.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Another level.
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  Speaker 2: It is another level. They really did have a bond.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question about it. Well, great to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: Are you back home yet?
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  Speaker 5: I am. Midnight last night. Did I ever tell you
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  Speaker 5: we live a long way from everybody?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you mentioned that.
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  Speaker 5: JFK. JFK to Seattle. We could go to London quicker.
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  Speaker 1: Do you bring out the globe?
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  Speaker 2: I like a dad that brings out the globe and
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  Speaker 2: shows his children, here's where we live and here's how far.
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  Speaker 5: I have done that. When they were like three or
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  Speaker 5: four years old, I did do that. I did have
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  Speaker 5: a globe and I did show them that. It's like
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  Speaker 5: the Tom Hanks scene from The Sleepless in Seattle. There's one, two, three, four,
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  Speaker 5: 58 states between Maryland and Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. That is a very Greg Bell thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: It would be.
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  Speaker 2: I used to have a globe in my study. I
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  Speaker 2: love having a globe, and it got lost. It got
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  Speaker 2: broken or something in a move, but I've got to
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  Speaker 2: buy a globe. I'm going to get a globe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some Seahawks football, of course, coming
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  Speaker 2: off a loss. We were sort of discussing, and just
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  Speaker 2: get your opinion on this. This isn't exactly reporter stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but just your.
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  Speaker 1: Opinion on this.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Mike McDonald and the Seahawks are just going to
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  Speaker 2: have a Tampa Bay Buccaneers game every single year. One
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  Speaker 2: of those that just feels uncharacteristic. You didn't see it coming.
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  Speaker 2: And then they'll fix it the next week and all
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  Speaker 2: will be fine and dandy. Was Sunday their Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 2: Buccaneers game of 2026, do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they hope so because they only lost one
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  Speaker 5: other time in the next four months after that game.
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  Speaker 5: But it was similar, you're right, because of the turnovers
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  Speaker 5: of setting up Tampa Bay and Seattle's own end. In Washington,
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  Speaker 5: the three turnovers that directly led to 21 points for
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  Speaker 5: the commanders, on those three turnovers, the average starting position
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden change was the Seattle 32. And so
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  Speaker 5: as great as their defense is, that's a good way
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  Speaker 5: to score on Seattle is to start at the Seahawks'
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  Speaker 5: 32-yard line already in field position and So that's 21
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  Speaker 5: of the 33 points right there. And the defense can
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  Speaker 5: justifiably say, we didn't give up 33 points. We gave
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  Speaker 5: up 12 plus the 21 that our offense gave up
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  Speaker 5: to it for us. And they won't beat anyone turning
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  Speaker 5: it over three times and not taking the ball away.
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  Speaker 5: They just won't. And that's just the fact of how
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  Speaker 5: the game went. And they still, with a play or two,
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  Speaker 5: similar to the Rams loss in November in Englewood last year,
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  Speaker 5: they still almost won. and they lost by two points
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  Speaker 5: and they were a defensive play away at the end
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  Speaker 5: from getting a chance to win the game. So they
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  Speaker 5: aren't broken up. I mean, the gist of yesterday talking
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  Speaker 5: to Mike McDonald, it wasn't the sky is falling. Everything's terrible.
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  Speaker 5: We lost again. It was good. When I talked to
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  Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence in the locker room in Maryland on Sunday,
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  Speaker 5: he said, we know exactly who we are. We're the
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  Speaker 5: dark side defense. We ain't going anywhere. You ain't going
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  Speaker 5: nowhere is exactly what he said. So there's a lot.
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  Speaker 5: When you win 12 in a row and win a
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, it's going to take a lot more than
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  Speaker 5: a two-point loss when your offense turns it over three
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  Speaker 5: times to get this guy thinking something's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Beller with us, our Seahawks insider. You can follow
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  Speaker 2: him at GBellSeattle for his coverage of the Seahawks. He
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  Speaker 2: is back in town after a long flight across the
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  Speaker 2: country and with us again here this morning on Sports
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  Speaker 2: Radio 93.3 KJR FM. All right, so is Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 2: out of the doghouse then? Was that just a half-a-game
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  Speaker 2: kind of penalty?
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  Speaker 5: I think he's got maybe one paw and a tail
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  Speaker 5: still in it. He's going to have to prove a
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  Speaker 5: little bit that he can carry the ball without losing it.
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  Speaker 5: He told me in the locker room he's going to
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  Speaker 5: have to change his mindset. His mindset has been get
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  Speaker 5: every yard you can and struggle through defenders and try
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  Speaker 5: to bowl through them and then elude him, and now
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  Speaker 5: he said his focus needs to be on holding on
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  Speaker 5: to the ball. And he's not going to go for
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  Speaker 5: the extra yard or two. He's going to basically cover
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  Speaker 5: up and go down when he gets hit so he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't lose the ball. And he's going to have to
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  Speaker 5: do that for not only this game against the Chargers Sunday,
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  Speaker 5: but about a month or so before they trust him
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  Speaker 5: again all the time. But the most alarming thing about
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  Speaker 5: what happened with that and benching him is that we
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  Speaker 5: saw when Price was on the bench, the run game
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  Speaker 5: went with him. and that Brian Fleury just decided not
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  Speaker 5: to throw. Now, Mike McDonald said their game plan had
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  Speaker 5: a lot of screens and had a lot of short
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  Speaker 5: passes into it without watching his defense was playing them.
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  Speaker 5: But they just can't pass 45 times and run 18,
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  Speaker 5: no matter whether they're winning or losing a game. So
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  Speaker 5: what can they do if Price does fumble was the
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  Speaker 5: question on Sunday, and the answer was nothing. They did
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  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Wilson, who had fewer yards. He had 14 yards
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  Speaker 5: on nine carries, I think it was, to Price's five
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  Speaker 5: carries for 15 yards, 18 rushes for 44 yards in all.
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  Speaker 5: That has to change, and they need to run more
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  Speaker 5: than 18 times just so they can throw and do
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  Speaker 5: their play action and just so they can be more
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  Speaker 5: effective at the goal line. We talked about it yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: but if a team can't and won't run and their
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  Speaker 5: starting running back is on the sideline, then... throwing your
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  Speaker 5: way into the end zone from the two or three
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  Speaker 5: yard is a lot tougher, a lot tougher. You can
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  Speaker 5: pressure differently. You can cover differently. The commanders on that
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  Speaker 5: fourth and goal, they dropped like eight dudes in the
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  Speaker 5: coverage because they had eight guys covering a 10-yard wide,
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  Speaker 5: a 10-yard deep, and a wide end zone. That's a
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  Speaker 5: much different proposition than covering the whole entire field when
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  Speaker 5: you play defense, and that's why Sam Donald had nowhere
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  Speaker 5: to throw and had to run left and then right
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  Speaker 5: and threw incomplete to Barner on fourth down. That'll be
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  Speaker 5: the priority on Sunday and the next Sundays coming forward
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  Speaker 5: is getting price, getting trust in him, which means running
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  Speaker 5: them early. Yesterday, Mike McDonald said we're still going to
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  Speaker 5: give him the ball. And so I'd expect that to
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  Speaker 5: be a heavy emphasis Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Does he get the, uh, college campus treatment like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in every classroom, people just trying to knock the ball
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  Speaker 2: out of his hands.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to hold onto the ball all day long.
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  Speaker 2: And, You know, the cook can try to knock the
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  Speaker 2: ball out of his hands, the team chef, the coastless
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  Speaker 2: can try to knock the ball out of his hands.
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  Speaker 1: Or does he have to.
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  Speaker 2: Carry an egg around and make sure it doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: broken all day long?
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to send a message here?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he probably slept with the ball last night in
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  Speaker 5: his home here in Seattle. Pete Carroll used to have
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  Speaker 5: guys do that. Some guys would say they wouldn't sleep
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  Speaker 5: with a football. But yes, the emphasis is that deep
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  Speaker 5: on it. It's so early in his career, he's only
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  Speaker 5: two games of any kind, three games. He didn't even
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  Speaker 5: play in the preseason, of course, that they are trying
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  Speaker 5: to change a mindset. The one thing for a young
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: first-round pick, especially trying to make a splash impression on
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  Speaker 5: a new team and new coaches and new teammates, is
• 10:59
  Speaker 5: to take his playing time away. Price will not forget that.
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  Speaker 5: You may see him just go down after a game
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  Speaker 5: of one or two, and you're like, what was that?
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  Speaker 5: That was him not trying to lose the ball here
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  Speaker 5: for the next couple weeks.
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  Speaker 2: 44 yards rushing for a game is not just running back, though.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the offensive line take this personally on Sunday?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And John Benton's going to definitely get
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  Speaker 5: after his guys for that. And we mentioned Anthony Bradford
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  Speaker 5: missing at right guard and how suddenly Anthony Bradford has
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  Speaker 5: more value than most people in Seattle thought he had.
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: You know, last year of his contract, He'll be anxious
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: to come back and play after the hip injury on
• 11:37
  Speaker 5: top of the sore knee he had for weeks because
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  Speaker 5: he's trying to make money somewhere, whether it's in Seattle
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: or somewhere else. These are his chances to do it.
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  Speaker 5: We'll find out more Wednesday whether he's able to play.
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  Speaker 5: What I saw out of the binoculars, I think Bo
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  Speaker 5: Stevens has played better and moved more guys than Christian Haynes.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't quite, to me, seem to be quite as
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  Speaker 5: evenly split on reps as they were in Arizona. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: Haynes has a little more experience. I haven't been here
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  Speaker 5: three years, but he's had three chances to win that
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  Speaker 5: job and hasn't done it. So nobody wants me to
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  Speaker 5: say this, but they need Anthony Bradford back on their
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  Speaker 5: offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know everybody agrees they need Julian Love back
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  Speaker 2: in the secondary. Hugh Millen, most of all, after yesterday's conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But Love, Okada, Emanwuri, I think every Seahawks fan is
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  Speaker 2: just like, hey, can we see this team with its
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: full complement of defensive backs right now? Can we just
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  Speaker 2: start there? Can we get that at some point during
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  Speaker 2: the season? When might that occur?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that Okada's coming back anytime soon. We
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  Speaker 5: talked about the hamstring and how that could be a while. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: McDonald said it's day-to-day on Julian Love and his defense.
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  Speaker 5: coming back to practice hamster calf tightened up in practice Thursday.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why he was a sudden scratch and couldn't
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  Speaker 5: play last week. So you're right. He's a glue guy
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  Speaker 5: that knows he's played every position on the defense. So
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  Speaker 5: he knows where everyone's supposed to be in every call.
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  Speaker 5: He absolutely would help the corners. They had to practice
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  Speaker 5: squad guys starting at safety. And then they had a
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  Speaker 5: half 52% being Nicky Manori. So yeah, That's three huge
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  Speaker 5: pieces of your defense not at full go and what
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: you planned on at the start of the season. If
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  Speaker 5: I had to guess, Julian Love may come back this week.
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  Speaker 5: Nicky Maury is going to play more than 52% of
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  Speaker 5: the snaps. Yesterday, Mike McDonald said, we as coaches need
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  Speaker 5: to get back to playing him all over the place.
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  Speaker 5: So that was the green light signal to me. They
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  Speaker 5: want him to play in the front, the middle, and
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  Speaker 5: the back. He only played in the front in Washington.
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  Speaker 5: He was at the line of scrimmage. I had the
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  Speaker 5: binoculars on him most of the game. He was lined
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  Speaker 5: up in a lot of scrimmage, often in the slot,
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  Speaker 5: and he often dropped into coverage. He was not the
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  Speaker 5: impact pressure all over the defense and offense having to
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: count where is this guy. He was lining up basically
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  Speaker 5: in the same place, the edge of the defense or
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  Speaker 5: in the slot the whole time. And McDonald said yesterday
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  Speaker 5: they're going to move him around. So I think you're
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: going to see more of the full Eamon Warrior experience,
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  Speaker 5: closer to 90-some percent of the snaps. And we'll see tomorrow,
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  Speaker 5: but it looks like Julian Love has a chance to
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  Speaker 5: come back this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want as much a deception with Eamon Worry
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  Speaker 2: as possible. As far as I'm concerned, he should wear
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: a camouflage uniform out there. Anything to hide him where
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: the offense doesn't know where he's coming from. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you spent much time yesterday on your show
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: talking about the McDonald decision on.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth down defense. to go for it.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people angry, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people doing weird math to say we lost by two.
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  Speaker 2: That was the difference in the game. Hugh and I
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  Speaker 2: spent some time yesterday defending the decision. I'll continue to
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  Speaker 2: defend the decision. But what were your two cents on
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  Speaker 2: that particular decision? And will it change the way Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald approaches that in the future at all?
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  Speaker 5: In the moment, it reminded me of Week 18 at
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: San Francisco last week. It reminded me of the Super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl in that he thought, okay, I'm going forward here
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  Speaker 5: because my thinking is even if we don't score, my
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  Speaker 5: defense isn't going to give up a series of first downs,
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  Speaker 5: and Washington's going to be punting out of its own
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  Speaker 5: end zone. We're going to get another drive start in
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  Speaker 5: plus territory anyway. So it's like having two cracks at
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  Speaker 5: a touchdown. So that's what I thought he was thinking
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  Speaker 5: at the time. He wants to establish a mentality on
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  Speaker 5: offense that's similar to the defense. We dictate to the team,
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  Speaker 5: not vice versa. It's a lot easier to do when
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: you're running the ball well, though. But that's why he
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  Speaker 5: was going for it there. He's trying to dictate and
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  Speaker 5: be aggressive and establish a mentality and say, you can't
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  Speaker 5: drive 99 yards on our defense. Yeah, the math, the points,
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  Speaker 5: it's always easy to say that, but Games don't just
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: happen the same way they are. If they kick a
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: field goal there, maybe Washington's offense plays different the next day.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they get the ball at the 35 and not
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  Speaker 2: the 2 and go down and score a touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly. Or Myers misses the landing zone or kicks out
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  Speaker 5: of bounds and drives through to the 40. And maybe
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  Speaker 5: they score. Exactly. And that's the analytics thinking. And then
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  Speaker 5: McDonald's reasoning is, the chances of them scoring on a
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  Speaker 5: drive that begins at the two- or one-yard line against
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  Speaker 5: It's not going to change anything. As long as he
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  Speaker 1: All right, what do you got on the show today?
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• 17:30
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  Speaker 5: play back a lot of things. I wasn't there, of course.
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  Speaker 5: I was in New York. But by all accounts, he
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  Speaker 5: I should do that. We should catch up with them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good.
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  Speaker 5: I just officiated his O'Day game, his latest O'Day football
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. We appreciate it. We'll be listening at 10.
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  Speaker 1: No, he would not.
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  Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, he held a press conference yesterday announcing
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  Speaker 2: the organization's thoughts on what went wrong this past year,
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  Speaker 2: why Dan Wilson was let go, shouldered a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the blame for what happened, but, of course, kept his
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  Speaker 2: a lot about, and not just us, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people in town, different formats, was this team... Doesn't
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  Speaker 2: look focused all the time. Why do they continue to
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  Speaker 2: play without urgency? And Bryce Miller even confessed at one point,
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  Speaker 2: very late in the season, that they just kept expecting
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  Speaker 2: the switch to flip and that eventually things would take
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  Speaker 2: care of themselves. And that recipe, that lack of urgency,
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  Speaker 2: never did lead to a turnaround. And Jerry DiPoto did address...
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  Speaker 2: his team's lack of accountability this year.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry, do you feel like player accountability was something that
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  Speaker 1: slowly but surely slipped.
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  Speaker 4: Away, and how much of that will be part of
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  Speaker 6: It is a heavy piece of the criteria, but I
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't limit that just to the players. Accountability is just
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  Speaker 6: is preset, everybody understands what that standard is, and then
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  Speaker 6: we hold ourselves accountable to it, You know, the bigger
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  Speaker 6: issue is the standard itself.
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  Speaker 1: And that's on me.
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  Speaker 6: The one person who has the ability to drill down
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  Speaker 6: to the bottom and say, we are not upholding these standards.
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  Speaker 6: We need to do better. I did an ineffective job
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  Speaker 6: front office group. It's on the staff and the players collectively.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that more so than anything was the
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  Speaker 2: Even though he said he tried to take all the responsibility,
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  Speaker 2: introduce urgency, we did not correct defensive flaws and base
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  Speaker 2: running blunders and which he led to a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later on in the press conference. I think that more
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  Speaker 2: so than anything was the damnation of Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: And his stint as manager of the Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was him saying, I hired a guy
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  Speaker 2: and a coaching staff that I thought would be on
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  Speaker 2: top of those things.
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  Speaker 1: And instead, it ended up being the biggest issue that year.
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  Speaker 2: So I believe, Anders, what I have heard is that
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  Speaker 2: there was sort of a handshake agreement that Jerry DiPoto
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  Speaker 2: was going to let Dan operate the clubhouse, make the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: He had total autonomy on that. And in-game decisions.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was Dan's, if I'm going to do this,
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  Speaker 2: this is how I need to have it done. There
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  Speaker 2: up that Jerry flew in. He wouldn't even go on
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  Speaker 2: the road trip, but he flew in to tear some
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  Speaker 2: people a new one for the lack of communication because
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  Speaker 2: everybody in the organization agreed that This is how we're
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  Speaker 2: going to go forward with the six starting pitchers that
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  Speaker 2: we have. The players agreed. The coaches agreed. They decided
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  Speaker 2: that was the best track forward. And then how they
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  Speaker 2: were going to implement it did not get communicated to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the two guys that were getting piggybacked. Stuff like that
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: fell through the cracks. I think that more so than
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: anything led to this team never getting on track, led
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  Speaker 2: to Dan Wilson's firing, led to this team finishing 10
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  Speaker 2: games below.
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  Speaker 1: 500.
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  Speaker 2: And even though Jerry's taking responsibility for it, it's a responsibility. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I hired these guys, and yet we did not get
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  Speaker 2: the team to be accountable for for their responsibility to
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  Speaker 2: playing their best on a nightly basis. We let way
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: too much slip through the cracks, and I'm not going
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to let that happen again.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: That's what I think that's a confession. I somewhat deviate
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  Speaker 1: from that thought process.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I completely agree with everything he said at face value, where,
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  Speaker 3: as we talked about earlier, you're the president of baseball operations.
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  Speaker 1: You're the leader.
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  Speaker 3: It's your job to set the standard. And when those
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  Speaker 3: standards are not being met, it's also your job to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that that is being enforced, whether that is
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  Speaker 3: the fault of the manager, whether that is the fault
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  Speaker 3: himself there and saying, I should have maybe been more
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  Speaker 3: direct with Dan. Hey, this needs to change. This needs
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  Speaker 3: to not be the case instead of just letting him
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  Speaker 3: ever going to be a strength of his where like
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  Speaker 3: hey i'm going to communicate to everyone i'm going to
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  Speaker 2: Should be the case it's not that's why i think
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  Speaker 2: he hired dan wilson he thought he was a culture
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  Speaker 2: cleaner that everybody loves him everybody knows him he's known
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  Speaker 2: everybody since they were a prospect in that locker room
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  Speaker 2: till now with the exception of the nailers who they
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  Speaker 2: traded for and stuff like that and i don't have
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: to worry about culture because it's not my bag baby
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  Speaker 2: And then the culture got too soft.
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  Speaker 1: It got too weak. It got wimpy.
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  Speaker 2: And there was nobody on the coaching staff because they're
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  Speaker 2: all about juice boxes. I mean, they're great guys and
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  Speaker 2: they're great coaches, but there was no heavy hand. And
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  Speaker 2: got piggybacked and JP got demoted and pouted, then there
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  Speaker 2: was no leadership in the dugout from players. And so
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what he's talking about. And yet he
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  Speaker 2: gave Dan... his word that he wasn't going to meddle
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  Speaker 2: and you're right a leader says hey you're not getting
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  Speaker 2: the job done so you're going to get it done
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  Speaker 2: or i'll find somebody else mid-season i'm certainly not buying
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the argument that in-season managerial changes are hard i disagree
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  Speaker 2: they're both in the playoffs exactly with One of them
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: with a lot of cushion to spare.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Both of them turned their seasons completely around.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And even the Mets, who didn't make the playoffs, looked
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: like a completely different team after they fired their manager.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: And then finally, ES4 eliminated.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: We know that the Mariners are eliminated, but I've got
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• 33:37
  Speaker 2: watch the MLB playoffs.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah!
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: So, what we're going to do today, and this will
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: be Christopher Kidd's first showdown. He used to know it
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: as the Green Jacket.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Oh. But it's now the showdown. A lot has changed, Chris.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Since you've been away.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's the same except the name and the award. But
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have a showdown draft coming up at 930.
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  Speaker 2: It is a major event, even though our team's not involved.
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  Speaker 2: But we still are going to do our MLB playoff
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  Speaker 2: preview today at 9.30. And, of course, with the showdown,
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  Speaker 2: this is another change, we have listener participation. So what
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  Speaker 2: I need at 49451 is you to make a small
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  Speaker 2: case for yourself for drafting with us today. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to be a big Major League Baseball fan. I
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  Speaker 2: want you to actually be interested, if not excited, about
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  Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball playoffs starting tonight. But we do
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  Speaker 2: need a listener representative to draft against us today at 9.30.
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  Speaker 2: You will be drafting players. And the total bases that
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  Speaker 2: your four players you draft get is what you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to accumulate. Not home runs, but total bases throughout the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: That's your goal. I announce this now because I want
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  Speaker 2: to make sure we lock in our drafter. And you
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  Speaker 2: also have an hour plus to prepare for it at 9.30.
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  Speaker 2: So 49451. Send in your text, make your claim for
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  Speaker 2: why you should be today's showdown drafter and represent all
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  Speaker 2: the listeners in today's MLB Playoff Preview, which comes your
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  Speaker 2: way on the show at 9.30. Gene Sparator is going
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  Speaker 2: to join us next. We've got a lot to discuss
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  Speaker 2: with Gene. Sports Radio 93.3, KJRFM.