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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chapter seven of William Penn by George Hodges. This LibriVox
- 0:06Speaker 1: recording is in the public domain, read by Richard Boegel.
- 0:11Speaker 1: At the court of James the Second and in retirement
- 0:17Speaker 1: in the winter of sixteen eighty four eighty five, Charles
- 0:21Speaker 1: the second died, and the Duke of York his brother
- 0:25Speaker 1: succeeded him as James the Second. And James was the
- 0:29Speaker 1: patron and good friend of William Penn. But the king
- 0:34Speaker 1: was a Roman Catholic. One of his first acts upon
- 0:38Speaker 1: coming to the throne was to go publicly to Mass,
- 0:42Speaker 1: who was privately resolved upon making the Roman Church supreme
- 0:46Speaker 1: in England. Penn was stoutly opposed to the King's religion.
- 0:52Speaker 1: In his seasonable caveat against Popery, as well as in
- 0:57Speaker 1: his other writings, he had expressed his days like with
- 1:00Speaker 1: characteristic frankness, that he had himself been accused of being
- 1:06Speaker 1: a Jesuit had naturally impelled him to use the strongest
- 1:10Speaker 1: language to belie the accusation. Nevertheless, William Penn stood by
- 1:16Speaker 1: the king he sought and kept the position a favorite
- 1:20Speaker 1: an agent of the court he upheld, and so far
- 1:24Speaker 1: as he could, assisted the projects of a reign, which,
- 1:28Speaker 1: had it continued, would probably have contradicted his most cherished principles,
- 1:34Speaker 1: abolished liberty of conscience, and made an end of Quakers.
- 1:40Speaker 1: This perplexing inconsistency, which is the only serious blot on
- 1:45Speaker 1: Penn's fair fame, appears to have been the result of
- 1:49Speaker 1: two convictions. He was sure in the first place of
- 1:55Speaker 1: the honesty of the king. He believed in him with
- 1:58Speaker 1: all his heart. James had been true to the trust
- 2:02Speaker 1: reposed in him by William's father. He had befriended William,
- 2:07Speaker 1: taking him out of prison, increasing his estates, granting his petitions. Anybody,
- 2:14Speaker 1: said Penn, that has the least pretense to good nature, gratitude,
- 2:19Speaker 1: or generosity must needs know how to interpret my access
- 2:24Speaker 1: to the king. With his advance to the crown, James's
- 2:29Speaker 1: graciousness had increased. He kept great lords waiting without while
- 2:35Speaker 1: he conversed at leisure with the Quaker. He liked Penn,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and Penn liked him. In spite of their disparities in
- 2:44Speaker 1: their age, rank and creed, William Penn and James Stewart
- 2:49Speaker 1: were fast friends, united by the bond of genuine affection.
- 2:56Speaker 1: It was characteristic of Pen to be blind to the
- 2:59Speaker 1: faults of his friends. He brought great troubles both upon
- 3:03Speaker 1: himself and upon his colony by his refusal to believe
- 3:07Speaker 1: the reports which were made to him against the character
- 3:10Speaker 1: of men whom he had appointed to office. He was
- 3:15Speaker 1: unwilling to believe evil of any man. He fell into
- 3:19Speaker 1: bankruptcy and even into a debtor's prison, by his blind,
- 3:24Speaker 1: unquestioning confidence in the agent who managed his business. His
- 3:30Speaker 1: faith in James was of a piece with his whole character.
- 3:35Speaker 1: He appears to have been temperamentally incapable of perceiving the
- 3:39Speaker 1: unworthiness of anybody whom he liked. Together with this conviction
- 3:46Speaker 1: as to the King's honesty, and bound up with it,
- 3:50Speaker 1: was a like belief in the wisdom of the King's plan.
- 3:54Speaker 1: The King's plan was to remove all disabilities arriving from religion.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Purpose not only to put an end to the laws
- 4:02Speaker 1: under which honest men were kept in prison, but to
- 4:06Speaker 1: abolish the tests which prevented a Roman Catholic from holding office,
- 4:11Speaker 1: and without caring for the action of a cautious parliament.
- 4:15Speaker 1: His intention was to do these things at once by
- 4:19Speaker 1: a declaration of the royal will. All this was approved
- 4:24Speaker 1: by William Penn that the laws which disturbed Protestant dissenters
- 4:30Speaker 1: should be changed. He argued at length in a pamphlet
- 4:34Speaker 1: entitled A Persuasion to Moderation. Moderation, as he defined it,
- 4:41Speaker 1: meant liberty of conscience to church dissenters, a cause which,
- 4:46Speaker 1: with all humility, said he had undertaken to plead against
- 4:50Speaker 1: the prejudices of the times. He maintained that toleration was
- 4:55Speaker 1: not only a right inherent in religion, but that it
- 4:59Speaker 1: was for them political and commercial good of the nation.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Repression and persecution, he said, drive men into conspiracies. The
- 5:09Speaker 1: importing of religious distinctions into the affairs of state deprives
- 5:14Speaker 1: the country of the services of some of its best men.
- 5:18Speaker 1: His father, upon the occasion of the First Dutch War,
- 5:22Speaker 1: had submitted to the King a list of the ablest
- 5:24Speaker 1: see officers in the kingdom. The striking of the names
- 5:28Speaker 1: of nonconformists from this list had robbed the King at
- 5:32Speaker 1: that time of ten men whose greater knowledge and valor
- 5:37Speaker 1: than any other ten of that fleet had in their
- 5:40Speaker 1: room been able to have saved a battle or perfected
- 5:43Speaker 1: a victory. As for a declaration of indulgence, pen deemed
- 5:49Speaker 1: it the sovereign remedy of the English Constitution that these
- 5:54Speaker 1: tests should be removed. He urged on James's behalf, upon
- 5:58Speaker 1: William of Orange, to whom he went in Holland on
- 6:01Speaker 1: an informal commission from the King. William, by his marriage
- 6:07Speaker 1: with James's daughter, was heir apparent to the throne of England,
- 6:12Speaker 1: and his consent was necessary to any serious change of
- 6:16Speaker 1: national policy. He insisted on the tests. Theoretically, Penn was right.
- 6:23Speaker 1: The ideal state imposes no religious tests. Every good citizen,
- 6:29Speaker 1: no matter what his private creed, may be as eligible
- 6:32Speaker 1: to any office. Practically, Penn was wrong, as William of
- 6:39Speaker 1: Orange plainly saw that Prince has appeared afterwards was as
- 6:44Speaker 1: zealous for religious freedom as was Pen himself. But it
- 6:49Speaker 1: was plain to him that as matters stood at that
- 6:51Speaker 1: time in England, it was necessary to enforce the tests
- 6:55Speaker 1: in order to prevent the rise of an ecclesiastical party
- 7:00Speaker 1: whose supremacy would endanger all that Penn desired. Penn, with
- 7:06Speaker 1: his stout faith in the King, could not see it.
- 7:10Speaker 1: There were times, indeed, when he was perplexed and troubled.
- 7:15Speaker 1: The Lord keep us in this dark day. He wrote
- 7:18Speaker 1: to his steward at Pennsbury, be wise, close, respectful to superiors.
- 7:26Speaker 1: The King has discharged all friends by a general pardon
- 7:30Speaker 1: and is courteous. Though as to the Church of England
- 7:35Speaker 1: things seemed pinching. Several Roman Catholics got much into places
- 7:41Speaker 1: in the army, navy court. Nevertheless, the King's plan, as
- 7:46Speaker 1: he understood it, gave assurance of liberty of conscience and
- 7:51Speaker 1: the end of persecution for opinion's sake, and he supported
- 7:56Speaker 1: the King under these conditions. Misled by friendship, seeing but
- 8:03Speaker 1: not perceiving, Penn persuaded himself that he could excellently serve
- 8:08Speaker 1: God and his neighbors by becoming a courtier. He took
- 8:12Speaker 1: a house in London, within easy distance of Whitehall, and
- 8:16Speaker 1: visited the king daily. A great many people therefore visited
- 8:21Speaker 1: Penn daily, sometimes as many as two hundred were waiting
- 8:25Speaker 1: to confer with him. They desired that he would do
- 8:29Speaker 1: this or that for their good with the King. Most
- 8:33Speaker 1: of them were Quakers. Many were in need of pardon
- 8:38Speaker 1: or were burdened by some oppression. For example, Sir Robert's
- 8:43Speaker 1: steward of Coldness had been in exile as a Presbyterian
- 8:48Speaker 1: and on his return, found his lands in the possession
- 8:51Speaker 1: of the Earl of Erin. He brought his case to Penn.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Penn went to Erin, what is this, friend, James, that
- 9:00Speaker 1: I hear of thee He said, thou hast taken possession
- 9:04Speaker 1: of Coltness's castle. Thou knowest that it is not thine
- 9:10Speaker 1: that estate. Erin explained, I paid a great price for
- 9:15Speaker 1: I received no other reward for my expensive and troublesome
- 9:19Speaker 1: embassy to France except this estate. All very well, friend James,
- 9:25Speaker 1: said Penn. But of this, assure thyself that if thou
- 9:30Speaker 1: dost not give me this moment an order on thy
- 9:34Speaker 1: chamberlain for two hundred pounds to Coldness to carry him
- 9:38Speaker 1: down to his native country, and one hundred a year
- 9:41Speaker 1: to subsist on till matters are adjusted, I will make
- 9:46Speaker 1: it as many thousands out of thy way with the king.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Erin complied immediately again. One day, after dinner, as they
- 9:56Speaker 1: were drinking a glass of wine together, one of Penn's
- 9:59Speaker 1: client and said, I can tell you how you can
- 10:02Speaker 1: prolong my life. I'm no physician, answered Penn, but prasy
- 10:08Speaker 1: tell me what thou meanest. The client replied that a
- 10:12Speaker 1: good friend of his, Jack Trenchard, was in exile. And
- 10:16Speaker 1: if you, he said, could get him leave to come
- 10:19Speaker 1: home with safety and honor, the drinking now and then
- 10:23Speaker 1: of a bottle with Jack Trenchard would make me so
- 10:27Speaker 1: cheerful that it would prolong my life. Penn smilingly promised
- 10:33Speaker 1: to do what he could, and in a month the
- 10:35Speaker 1: two friends were drinking his good health. This was the
- 10:40Speaker 1: kind of business which he transacted. He had found a
- 10:44Speaker 1: way to be of eminent service to his neighbors, and
- 10:48Speaker 1: especially to his Quaker brethren, and he made the most
- 10:52Speaker 1: of the opportunity. There is no evidence that he departed
- 10:56Speaker 1: from the disinterested life which he had previously lived. He
- 11:01Speaker 1: attended the court of King James, as he had undertaken
- 11:04Speaker 1: the settlement of Pennsylvania, not for what he could get
- 11:08Speaker 1: out of it, but for the good he could do
- 11:11Speaker 1: by means of it. What he did, he tells us,
- 11:15Speaker 1: was upon a principle of charity. I never accepted any commission,
- 11:20Speaker 1: he says, but that of a free and common solicitor
- 11:23Speaker 1: for sufferers of all sorts and in all parties. Neither
- 11:28Speaker 1: is there any instance of his asking anything to increase
- 11:31Speaker 1: his own estate or position, indeed, he was losing money,
- 11:38Speaker 1: for the expenses of life at court were great. Worse still,
- 11:42Speaker 1: he was losing his good name. His Quaker friends found
- 11:46Speaker 1: him hard to understand. It was true that he had
- 11:50Speaker 1: cast in his lot with them, and had suffered for
- 11:53Speaker 1: their cause. He was their great theologian and preacher. But
- 11:58Speaker 1: he seemed nevertheless to be still a cavalier and worldly person.
- 12:04Speaker 1: They heard, though there was no truth in the report,
- 12:08Speaker 1: that he had set up a military company in Pennsylvania.
- 12:12Speaker 1: They saw with their own eyes that he lived in
- 12:15Speaker 1: a style which must have seemed to them altogether inconsistent
- 12:19Speaker 1: with simplicity, and that he consorted with courtiers. And they
- 12:25Speaker 1: did not like it, they said so frankly. As for enemies,
- 12:31Speaker 1: the king's favorite had many. Inevitably, the lords who waited
- 12:37Speaker 1: in the antechamber while Penn was closeted with James did
- 12:40Speaker 1: not look pleasantly at him when he came out. The
- 12:44Speaker 1: stout Protestants, who hated the King's ways and suspected the
- 12:47Speaker 1: King's designs, could not easily think well of one who
- 12:51Speaker 1: was so closely in his counsels. One of Penn's friends
- 12:56Speaker 1: told him what these people said of him. The host
- 13:00Speaker 1: is too considerable for a papist of an ordinary form,
- 13:04Speaker 1: and therefore you must be a Jesuit. Nay, to confirm
- 13:10Speaker 1: that suggestion, it must be accompanied with all the circumstances
- 13:15Speaker 1: that may best give it an error of probability. Is
- 13:18Speaker 1: that you have been bred at Saint Omer's in the
- 13:21Speaker 1: Jesuit college, that you have taken orders at Rome and
- 13:25Speaker 1: there obtained a dispensation to Mary, and that you have
- 13:29Speaker 1: since then frequently officiated as a priest in the celebration
- 13:34Speaker 1: of the Mass at Whitehall, Saint James, and other places.
- 13:40Speaker 1: It seems absurd enough to us, but many intelligent persons,
- 13:44Speaker 1: even Archbishop tillots And of Canterbury, believed it. The detail
- 13:50Speaker 1: of Saint Omer came probably from a confusion of the
- 13:53Speaker 1: name with Somemer. The other suspicions grew out of Penn's
- 13:58Speaker 1: place in the favor of the king. It seemed as
- 14:02Speaker 1: if nothing could prejudice the king's matters in the eyes
- 14:06Speaker 1: of Pen. Monmouth's rebellion king and the King's revenge followed.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Judge Jeffries went on his bloody circuit about three hundred hanged.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Penn wrote in Diverse Towns of the West about one
- 14:22Speaker 1: thousand to be transported. I beg twenty of the king.
- 14:28Speaker 1: It was all bad, and one regrets to find Pen
- 14:31Speaker 1: concerned in it. Still, his twenty probably fared better than
- 14:36Speaker 1: their neighbors. It is likely that he sent them to
- 14:40Speaker 1: be colonists in Pennsylvania. In the matter of the Maids
- 14:45Speaker 1: of Taunton, William seems clearly to have had no part.
- 14:50Speaker 1: A company of little schoolgirls, led by their teacher, had
- 14:54Speaker 1: marched in procession to celebrate the landing of Monmouth. For
- 14:59Speaker 1: this events, their parents were heavily fined, and the fines
- 15:03Speaker 1: were given to the Queen's maids of honor. These ladies
- 15:07Speaker 1: wrote to a mister Penn to get him to collect them.
- 15:12Speaker 1: McCauley thought that this pardon broker was William Penn. It
- 15:17Speaker 1: is flagrantly inconsistent with his character, and he has been
- 15:21Speaker 1: adequately vindicated by various writers. The agent in this case
- 15:27Speaker 1: was probably George Penn, a person in that business. Penn's
- 15:34Speaker 1: course is not so clear. In the matter of the
- 15:36Speaker 1: presidency of Magdalen College, one of the steps in James's
- 15:41Speaker 1: plan to change the religion of England was to get
- 15:45Speaker 1: a foothold for teachers of his faith at the universities.
- 15:49Speaker 1: He intended to capture Oxford and Cambridge. He had so
- 15:53Speaker 1: far succeeded at Oxford as to get possession of christ
- 15:57Speaker 1: Church and University College, and the presidency of Magdalen falling vacant,
- 16:04Speaker 1: You ordered fellows to elect a man of his own choice.
- 16:08Speaker 1: The fellows refused to obey the order. Thereupon, Pen, who
- 16:13Speaker 1: had at first taken their part with the king, advised
- 16:17Speaker 1: them to surrender. Mister Penn, said Doctor Hugh, representing the fellows,
- 16:24Speaker 1: in this, I will be plain with you, we have
- 16:28Speaker 1: our statutes and oaths to justify us in all that
- 16:31Speaker 1: we have done hitherto. But setting this aside, we have
- 16:35Speaker 1: a religion to defend, and I suppose yourself would think
- 16:39Speaker 1: s knaves if we would tamely give it up. The
- 16:43Speaker 1: Papists have already gotten christ Church and University. The present
- 16:47Speaker 1: struggle is for Magdalen, and in a short time, they threaten,
- 16:53Speaker 1: they will have the rest. To this, Pen replied with
- 16:57Speaker 1: vehemence that they shall never have a share yourselves. If
- 17:02Speaker 1: once they proceed so far, they will quickly find themselves
- 17:06Speaker 1: destitute of their present assistance. For my part, I have
- 17:11Speaker 1: always declared my opinion that the preferments of the Church
- 17:14Speaker 1: should not be put into any other hands but such
- 17:17Speaker 1: as they are at present in But I hope you
- 17:21Speaker 1: will not have the two universities such invisible bulwarks for
- 17:25Speaker 1: the Church of England, that none but they must be
- 17:28Speaker 1: capable of giving their children a learned education. I suppose
- 17:34Speaker 1: two or three colleges will content the papists. Finally, the
- 17:40Speaker 1: King's men broke down the doors, turned out the professors
- 17:43Speaker 1: and students, and gave the King his way. Penn was
- 17:47Speaker 1: thus the agent of tyranny, but he was an innocent agent.
- 17:53Speaker 1: He made a bad blunder, but he made it honestly
- 17:57Speaker 1: and ignorantly. It was in accord with his democratic ideas
- 18:02Speaker 1: that the university should be places of instruction for all people.
- 18:07Speaker 1: He would have liked to see not only the Roman Catholics,
- 18:11Speaker 1: but all the great divisions of religion in England represented there.
- 18:16Speaker 1: And that fine idea misled him. Told him guilty here
- 18:21Speaker 1: or elsewhere of malice or hypocrisy is to misread his character.
- 18:28Speaker 1: He was simply mistaken, mistaken in the King, mistaken in
- 18:34Speaker 1: the application of his own principles. Meanwhile, the nation at
- 18:39Speaker 1: large was making no mistake. The people saw James as
- 18:44Speaker 1: he was and detected his designs upon the liberties of England.
- 18:49Speaker 1: At last, in April sixteen eighty eight, he issued a
- 18:53Speaker 1: declaration of indulgence. He added insult to injury by ordering
- 18:58Speaker 1: that it should be read in every church in the realm.
- 19:03Speaker 1: The seven bishops who protested were sent to the tower.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Then the end came with speed. William of Orange was
- 19:12Speaker 1: invited into England. The nation welcomed him with acclamations. James
- 19:19Speaker 1: fled before him into France, where he lived the remainder
- 19:23Speaker 1: of an inglorious life. This was a hard change for
- 19:28Speaker 1: William Penn, and he seems to have done nothing to
- 19:31Speaker 1: make it easier. There were courtiers who passed with incredible
- 19:36Speaker 1: swiftness from one allegiance to the other. He was not
- 19:40Speaker 1: among them. Others fled to France, but he stayed. He
- 19:46Speaker 1: was arrested. In his examination before the Privy Council, he
- 19:51Speaker 1: declared that he had done nothing but what he could
- 19:54Speaker 1: answer for before God and all the princes in the world,
- 19:59Speaker 1: that he he loved his country and the Protestant religion
- 20:03Speaker 1: above his life, and had never acted against either. That
- 20:08Speaker 1: all he had ever aimed at in his public endeavors
- 20:11Speaker 1: was none other than what the King had declared for
- 20:15Speaker 1: religious liberty, That King James had always been his friend
- 20:20Speaker 1: and his father's friend, and that ingratitude he himself was
- 20:24Speaker 1: the King's, and did ever as much as in himlay,
- 20:28Speaker 1: influence him to his true interests. Penn was released. The
- 20:35Speaker 1: new King began his reign with the Toleration Act, which
- 20:40Speaker 1: Parliament passed in sixteen eighty eight, and from which dates
- 20:45Speaker 1: the establishment of actual and abiding religious liberty in England.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Thus Penn's great purpose was accomplished by one with whom
- 20:54Speaker 1: he was not in accord. Sometimes a political party had
- 21:00Speaker 1: adopts the projects for which its opponents have long labored,
- 21:04Speaker 1: and carries them out even more vigorously than they had
- 21:07Speaker 1: been planned originally. The initial reformers are glad that their
- 21:12Speaker 1: ideals have been realized, but their zeal must be uncommonly
- 21:17Speaker 1: impersonal if the success brings them quite so much joy
- 21:21Speaker 1: as it logically ought. It is not likely that the
- 21:26Speaker 1: Toleration Act filled the soul of William Penn with great jewilation. Indeed,
- 21:32Speaker 1: we know he insisted to the end of his life
- 21:35Speaker 1: that James, if he had been let alone, would have
- 21:38Speaker 1: done all that William did, and more too, and better.
- 21:43Speaker 1: The years which followed were full of trouble. McCauley says
- 21:48Speaker 1: that in sixteen eighty nine Penn was plotting against the government,
- 21:53Speaker 1: but the evidence does not suffice to establish the fact.
- 21:57Speaker 1: The Privy Council in sixteen nine confronted Penn with an
- 22:01Speaker 1: intercepted letter to him from James asking for help, but
- 22:07Speaker 1: as Penn said, he could not hinder the King from
- 22:10Speaker 1: writing to him. He added, however, with characteristic boldness, that
- 22:15Speaker 1: since he had loved King James and his prosperity, he
- 22:19Speaker 1: should not hate him in his adversity. He was again discharged.
- 22:26Speaker 1: In that same year, however, James invaded Ireland and the
- 22:30Speaker 1: situation of his friends in England was thereby made increasingly difficult.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Penn was arrested with others and imprison awaited trial for
- 22:40Speaker 1: several months. The result was as before, He was found
- 22:45Speaker 1: in no offense. But before a month had passed he
- 22:49Speaker 1: learned that another warrant was out against his liberty. Officers
- 22:54Speaker 1: went to take him at the funeral of George Fox,
- 22:57Speaker 1: but arrived too late. By this time, he had concluded
- 23:02Speaker 1: that the path of prudence was that which led into
- 23:05Speaker 1: a wise retirement. He hid himself for the space of
- 23:10Speaker 1: three years. He was publicly proclaimed a traitor and was
- 23:16Speaker 1: deprived of the government of his colony. He was hunted
- 23:21Speaker 1: up and down, he says, and could never be allowed
- 23:24Speaker 1: to live quietly in city or country. Finally, the government
- 23:30Speaker 1: were persuaded either that Penn was innocent or that no
- 23:34Speaker 1: further danger was to be apprehended from him, and several noblemen,
- 23:39Speaker 1: interceding with the king, procured his pardon. They represented his case,
- 23:46Speaker 1: he says, it is not only hard but oppressive, there
- 23:50Speaker 1: being no evidence. But what impostors are those that fled
- 23:55Speaker 1: or that have, since their pardon refused to verify and
- 23:58Speaker 1: ask me pardon for say what they did alleged against me.
- 24:04Speaker 1: The King announced that Penn was his old acquaintance, and
- 24:08Speaker 1: that he might follow his business as freely as ever,
- 24:12Speaker 1: and that for his part, he had nothing to say
- 24:14Speaker 1: to him. Thus, again, and at last, the political accusations
- 24:20Speaker 1: against William Penn came to nothing. He had been in
- 24:24Speaker 1: a hard position as the faithful friend of a dethroned
- 24:28Speaker 1: monarch in a day when conspiracies were being made on
- 24:32Speaker 1: every hand that he should have been suspected of treason
- 24:37Speaker 1: was inevitable that, in his unconcealed affection for James and
- 24:42Speaker 1: disapproval of William, he had said imprudent things. Is likely
- 24:47Speaker 1: enough prudence was not one of his virtues. He was
- 24:53Speaker 1: never calculatingly careful of his own welfare. But that he
- 24:59Speaker 1: was ever untrue true to William, or did any act
- 25:03Speaker 1: or consented to any which could reasonably be called treacherous,
- 25:07Speaker 1: is not only quite unproved, but is out of accord
- 25:11Speaker 1: with the true William Penn. As he has revealed in
- 25:14Speaker 1: his writings and in all his life. The only fault
- 25:19Speaker 1: which has been clearly established against him is that of
- 25:23Speaker 1: liking James better than he liked William. He was a
- 25:28Speaker 1: straunge friend to his friend. That is the sum of
- 25:32Speaker 1: his offending, wherein the only serious regret is that his
- 25:38Speaker 1: friend was not more worthy of his steadfast and unselfish friendship.
- 25:44Speaker 1: At no time in his life, says mister Fisk, does
- 25:47Speaker 1: he seemed more honest, brave, and lovable than during the
- 25:52Speaker 1: years so full of trouble for him that intervened between
- 25:57Speaker 1: the accession of James and the accession of an end
- 26:03Speaker 1: of Chapter seven