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Hour Two | Saints vs. Bears, Kendre’s Revenge & AJ Brown Dreams · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench Hour two of Off the Bench Live
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  Speaker 1: from the Raising Kine Studio.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back in our number two O TV
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  Speaker 3: here on this Thursday morning. Look, it's the pointed that
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  Speaker 3: nobody really wants to jump in on the Dennis Allen
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  Speaker 3: hate this week. I know he's not the head coach
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  Speaker 3: of the Bears. He's a defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: Did I not give him enough during his tenure?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's never.
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  Speaker 5: You're totally right, Chi, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't think I could ever chill out on the Dennis
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  Speaker 4: Allen hate. I have like a deep hatred for at
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  Speaker 4: this point.
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  Speaker 5: Be thankful he's not here anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, true, true, But.
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  Speaker 3: How cool would it be if rat Dad went up
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  Speaker 3: there and put it on him. I would love it
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  Speaker 3: and scored a lot of points coming up?
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  Speaker 2: I think he kind of had like I think he
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  Speaker 2: had one last week.
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  Speaker 3: I know they lost, but but this is this like
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  Speaker 3: a this could be I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 4: For Kendre Miller's revenge game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Here is going to take a hard
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  Speaker 2: left on one of his runs scored there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, target chance that Camara doesn't play this week.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know because he found himself the injury report.
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  Speaker 6: And he has not practiced in two days. Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 8: Running hard as hell. Yeah, my god, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 8: great now. I think breakout games. What I'm talking about
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  Speaker 8: is I think he's you know, we've we've seen him
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  Speaker 8: high completion percentage, low interceptions, operating at a very very
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  Speaker 8: high level, operating the offense, more deep shots, more chances.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm talking about quite statistically a breakout game like
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  Speaker 8: he played great last week, but still zero zero touchdown,
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  Speaker 8: zero interceptions, right, I am talking about like a three
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  Speaker 8: four touchdown type game where the receivers catch them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: the receivers catch them. That would be idea fun fun
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  Speaker 8: like that if they like get open and make up
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  Speaker 8: play and then when they do makeup play, you don't
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  Speaker 8: get a holding call.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all think, really, Dennis Allen is going to attack.
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  Speaker 2: I got Caesar.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's gonna be the lie.
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  Speaker 5: He knows the weakness of the week.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, hey, guys, I feel really good about our
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  Speaker 3: pressure package this week.
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  Speaker 2: Why coach trust me, because.
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  Speaker 8: We're gonna rush see fifty one over there, We're gonna
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  Speaker 8: rush four guys.
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  Speaker 4: I need us to like really just I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if the Saints can do it. I want to like
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  Speaker 4: run up the score on them, because remember when he
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  Speaker 4: apologized to Arthur, when Dennis Allen apologized.
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  Speaker 2: To our Jamis.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I want to run up the score on
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  Speaker 4: Dennis Allen and run over this defense so hard.
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  Speaker 2: But I just you gotta be able to.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: I just there's gonna be a game, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 8: a season where the offense just goes off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: There.
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  Speaker 6: As far as completion percentages, the Bears have the second
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  Speaker 6: highest completion percentage against them, seventy three point six. Only
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  Speaker 6: team mores that's the Dolphins. Really the Dolphins is seventy three.
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  Speaker 6: The Dolphins are seventy four point nine percent completion against them,
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  Speaker 6: and then the Bears are second with seventy three point
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  Speaker 6: six thirteen touchdowns against them. Their defense has eight picks.
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  Speaker 6: So I mean, they ain't great, and.
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  Speaker 4: They seem like they really love Kellen Moore that we
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  Speaker 4: played that post game speech in the locker room and
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  Speaker 4: it just seems like they want to really get behind him.
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  Speaker 4: So they need to do this for Kellen and they
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  Speaker 4: need to get revenge on Dennis Allen.
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  Speaker 6: Would anybody like to guess where they ranking yards per carrey?
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  Speaker 2: Whew?
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  Speaker 6: This is Chicago Bears defense. Where are they ranking twenty
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  Speaker 6: eight thirty first and the second worst?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 5: Five point seven yards perk price is right?
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  Speaker 2: Rules?
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  Speaker 5: I win five point seven per carry?
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  Speaker 2: Fair? You got it? Okay, So it could be a
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  Speaker 2: Kendred game. Look that was how like how sweet would
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  Speaker 2: that be?
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  Speaker 3: And like I was, I was calling out Kenduraman because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, hold up, man, wait, like what's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: It just turns out like he really just did not
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  Speaker 3: vibe and jibe with Dennis Allen those things that Dennis
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  Speaker 3: Allen that obviously, Like I've talked to people around the organization.
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  Speaker 3: We're like, no, that wasn't handled the right way. And
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  Speaker 3: he's played well. I mean, he hasn't had a ton
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  Speaker 3: of opportunities, but you can tell. I mean his first
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  Speaker 3: like preseason carrier. I remember Flintechs in the group and
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  Speaker 3: being like, oh, okay, I get it. I understand why
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  Speaker 3: they're being patient with him.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, I got a I got of just a random thought,
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  Speaker 8: like I'm not a big like analytics guy. I don't
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  Speaker 8: really like I can't claim to be an expert when
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  Speaker 8: it comes to just like general manager like GM, maneuvers
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  Speaker 8: team like knees teams, salary caps, cap hits. I'm not
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  Speaker 8: an expert at that. Like I just kind of call
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  Speaker 8: it like I see it. And there's something out there
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  Speaker 8: in the NFL that kind of intrigues me. We always
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  Speaker 8: we've been talking about the Saints being like one game changer,
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  Speaker 8: one playmaker away from being a relevant team, not a
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  Speaker 8: championship team. Let's not get it twisted. We don't think
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  Speaker 8: it like we're one player away from being but from
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  Speaker 8: you know, Nick said it on the other day on
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  Speaker 8: our show, like we're one past ca your playmaker away
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  Speaker 8: from having a chance to win two more games, being
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  Speaker 8: three and three.
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  Speaker 3: Incredibly fair too, because incredibly I there's three games that
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  Speaker 3: you could so if you win two of the three.
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  Speaker 8: So there's a there's a person out there in the
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  Speaker 8: NFL that is very disgruntled about which team he is
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  Speaker 8: on and he is a game changer. And oh yeah,
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  Speaker 8: he also played with Kellen Moore last year. AJ Brown
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  Speaker 8: the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know if there is a world,
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  Speaker 8: Like I said, I'm not an expert at salary cap
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  Speaker 8: and all the compensation stuff, but if there's a world
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  Speaker 8: that you have a guy that has disgruntled where he is,
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  Speaker 8: and like, I started pulling up some quotes from him,
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  Speaker 8: and this is a quote from last year, last winter,
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  Speaker 8: after they won the Super Brown from aj Brown after
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  Speaker 8: the Eagles won the Super Bowl, was before they got
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  Speaker 8: their rings. He said, I've never been a champion at
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  Speaker 8: the highest level before, but I thought my hard work
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  Speaker 8: would be justified by winning at all. It was not.
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  Speaker 8: My thrill for the game comes from when I dominate.
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  Speaker 8: So you got a guy saying, like cool one of
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  Speaker 8: the Super Bowl is great, Like I want to be
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  Speaker 8: the guy, And he's not ever going to be the
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  Speaker 8: guy in Philadelphia. He might have games where he's the guy.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm sure there's a lot of teams based on
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  Speaker 8: this picking up the phone at Colin. If the Saints
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  Speaker 8: aren't one of them, I don't know what you got
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  Speaker 8: to do. But if we're saying what is worth having
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  Speaker 8: one dominant guy with a young quarterback with a brand
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  Speaker 8: new head coach, it's already coached this guy. I guess
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  Speaker 8: the success with Killimore. What's to stop them from going out? Like,
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  Speaker 8: what would be worth it? Would you trade a Chris
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  Speaker 8: o Lava plus a second round pick?
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  Speaker 2: Would you? Like? What is the price?
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  Speaker 3: I actually think the second round pick is what teams
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  Speaker 3: expected to take, just a second round pick.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 8: The problem is is like with a guy like AJ
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  Speaker 8: Brown or your team Chris Alave becomes really good, probably
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  Speaker 8: like really good.
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  Speaker 3: So what if you could I mean it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of what is but what if you go backage Rashid
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  Speaker 3: chi heat who's expiring contract and second round?
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  Speaker 8: Of course you're not going to give up a first
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  Speaker 8: round pick like this year because it's gonna be really high.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you wouldn't do that, Yeah you would, only you
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  Speaker 3: would only do that for like five players.
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  Speaker 2: Currency something like I don't know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: AJ would a J. Brown?
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  Speaker 8: Like that's the thing in the past, like the Saints.
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  Speaker 8: The Saints is not ten target's minimum game, right, like.
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  Speaker 2: The New Orlean States.
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  Speaker 8: And this is this is like a knock on sitting
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  Speaker 8: a knock on anything specifically, but it's not like a
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  Speaker 8: desirable destination always for trades and free agencies.
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  Speaker 3: People don't know, and and just from my friends that
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  Speaker 3: have played here after being somewhere before, people don't know
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  Speaker 3: that it is a good spot to play in, in
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  Speaker 3: a good spot to be in until they get here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like you might have a completely different story,
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  Speaker 3: but I just know of of my teammates that played
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  Speaker 3: somewhere else and found their way to New Orleans. They
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  Speaker 3: weren't very excited about it when it happened. They had questions, concerns,
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  Speaker 3: and then ended up really enjoying their experience with the organization.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know the cost of living. They love that, right.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that are like oh, food, culture,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah whatever, like darren Sproles.
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  Speaker 8: Loved, but they would come because I guys like drew
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  Speaker 8: here like there was success being happened, like with a
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  Speaker 8: recent non success. That's why I like, I don't want
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  Speaker 8: any tank situation for an early drafting, because you're not
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  Speaker 8: gonna get any free agents that way or any people.
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  Speaker 8: That's a lot of times when a team trades a guy,
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  Speaker 8: they asked that guy like, are you cool with this trade?
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  Speaker 8: Sometimes they don't mind. Yeah, so it's uh, it's look,
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  Speaker 8: I think you got a little juice. You got a
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  Speaker 8: coach that he's familiar with. AJ Brown is familiar with.
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  Speaker 8: It was his offensive coordinator last season. Yeah, you got
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  Speaker 8: a guy that directly after the Super Bowl says, I'm
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  Speaker 8: not happy with this. I want to be targeted. I
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  Speaker 8: want to be the guy. So I don't see that
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  Speaker 8: situation getting better.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it is. I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe that was just like a random one off comment
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  Speaker 8: that he regretted afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, just reading into it.
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  Speaker 8: But AJ Brown one of the most dominant receivers, could
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  Speaker 8: be one of the most dominant receivers in the league
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  Speaker 8: right now. I'm looking at and this is don't take
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  Speaker 8: this with a great assault because I'm giving you some
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  Speaker 8: fantasy football statistics here, but from like what he wants
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  Speaker 8: as in dominating or taking over a football game, it
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  Speaker 8: kind of plays in this correlation of fantasy football. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: he is forty two, ranked forty two in wide receivers
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  Speaker 8: in fantasy football and non PPR leagues this year, and
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  Speaker 8: in PPR leagues he's ranked thirty seven. Yeah, in non
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  Speaker 8: PPR he's ranked behind the league neighbors who's been hurt.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah for a while, hadn't played three weeks. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 8: forty two and it should be probably a top five guy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's from Startville, like he's from Starville, so
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  Speaker 3: like he's from somewhere very close.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now if I'm watching from a Brown, I'm watching
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  Speaker 2: this as closer home as he could get.
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  Speaker 8: I'm watching Spencer Ratler and I'm watching seeing Kellen Moore there,
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  Speaker 8: Like I would be open to it. Yeah, maybe it's
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  Speaker 8: not as sexy as like get traded to the Steelers
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  Speaker 8: or Rams or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: But like, so I had thought about the A J.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I would love like we can trade Olave
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  Speaker 4: Shaheed whoever for a J. Brown. But then I was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: the Steelers are looking for a receiver, and I just
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  Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Maybe Roger's throwing to you, but I just I don't
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  Speaker 9: know if the Saints would be a desirable place. And
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if Mickey Loomis or the front office
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  Speaker 9: is smart enough to make that happen.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they're willing to give up what
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  Speaker 5: you would have to do. They gave him a.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth round pick for a guy that doesn't play though, received.
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  Speaker 6: You're true true point. I mean well, maybe that's their thing. Hey,
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  Speaker 6: we gave up for this guy, came well.
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  Speaker 5: Back to bite us.
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  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be, but try to make that guy part
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  Speaker 2: of the trade.
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  Speaker 6: Right they're out because like, okay, I agree with you
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  Speaker 6: on aj Brown.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is if you don't get him, where do
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  Speaker 5: you go from there?
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  Speaker 6: Because like there's guys that want to be traded, like
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  Speaker 6: came out yesterday, Kobe Myers hadn't been in practice all week.
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  Speaker 5: Raiders might move him. I don't know if he's a
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  Speaker 5: game change.
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  Speaker 8: You go, you go, you go for a guy, you
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  Speaker 8: go for a dude, you go for a top five
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  Speaker 8: to ten guy or nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, I think.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just worried that they go that route.
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  Speaker 6: They're like, oh, Kobe Myers is young, he's like paper,
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  Speaker 6: let's get him, and it doesn't really do anything for you.
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  Speaker 6: He's sent back to back thousand yard years. He's a
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  Speaker 6: good player, but he's kind of Chris.
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  Speaker 8: You only go for a guy that you say, can
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  Speaker 8: I plug and play him? And if if he would
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  Speaker 8: have been here six games ago, I believe we'd be
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  Speaker 8: three and three instead of one and five more that
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  Speaker 8: is yeah.
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  Speaker 2: See, I'm at that staff basically just.
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  Speaker 3: Like again, like I don't I don't know what what
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  Speaker 3: the trade would look like. But if you do move
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  Speaker 3: on from Rachiici just because of his contract and he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be a free agent and you don't believe
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  Speaker 3: that you can get to his number, whatever whatever. To
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  Speaker 3: Matt's point, I do think not only would you get
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  Speaker 3: an A. J. Brown, but Chris Olave would. His game
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  Speaker 3: would actually translate better with the option that he would
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  Speaker 3: become in the offense, The routes that you could run
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  Speaker 3: with him would be better because A. J. Brown would
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  Speaker 3: be the guy running those routes that he's right now,
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  Speaker 3: and you could do a lot of different things with this.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's what we're saying.
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  Speaker 8: Get like, if Alave gets traded, get ready to be
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  Speaker 8: pissed off Saints fans because he's going to go somewhere
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  Speaker 8: and be good because he won't be the one.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about that yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and I see a lot of people that Chad saying, no,
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  Speaker 6: keep Shiheed. Look I get that, I like Shahi. His
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  Speaker 6: problem is his contract's about to run out. He will
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  Speaker 6: be a free agent, and if you want to keep him,
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  Speaker 6: you don't have to pay up a little bit of
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  Speaker 6: cheese to get him.
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  Speaker 2: Now, he might be thirteen million, fourteen million a year.
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  Speaker 5: If you don't now of his speed, you don't trade
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  Speaker 5: him now.
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  Speaker 6: You either have to pay him a lot, which they
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  Speaker 6: don't want to do, or you're gonna have to let
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  Speaker 6: him walk.
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  Speaker 5: Like, if you want to make a move, she might
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  Speaker 5: have to be the guy. No shah Truther.
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  Speaker 4: So I would love to keep it too.
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  Speaker 2: I would too. I would keep him.
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  Speaker 4: This is like my own opinion is probably a bad one,
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  Speaker 4: but I would keep him.
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  Speaker 5: Over a lave if you had a guy.
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  Speaker 8: If you don't just think I just think that a
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  Speaker 8: lave is probably going to be really good with a
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  Speaker 8: true one receiver.
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  Speaker 2: You think he's going to be really really good.
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  Speaker 4: I mean now for Shahizo because he doesn't really have
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  Speaker 4: a one either.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, do I.
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  Speaker 8: Wish from all, But if you're making a move to
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  Speaker 8: get that type of guy, you got to give something.
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  Speaker 8: Both sides got to be a little bit unhappy with it.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like, oh god, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 8: So like and the one cap thing I did look
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  Speaker 8: at was that if they traded, if the Eagles traded
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  Speaker 8: aj Brown this year, they would have dead cap space
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  Speaker 8: of almost twelve million dollars. But let the Eagles lose
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  Speaker 8: this week to Carson Wentz and the Vikings, and see
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  Speaker 8: what kind of two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: This happened to them in the Eagles.
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  Speaker 8: They spiraled, They had a disaster, They lost their.
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  Speaker 6: Last seven regular season games, stumbled into the playoffs, and.
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  Speaker 5: Then the Bucks, who were a wild card, beat them.
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  Speaker 8: It was like a historical like eight in a row,
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  Speaker 8: melt lost. So like just think, so they got that
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  Speaker 8: in their DNA. Now they fixed it last year obviously,
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  Speaker 8: and let's not let's it's not like poopy on the
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  Speaker 8: Eagles because there's still a really great team. Hate to
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  Speaker 8: push dush push toushush push, oh, push to tush.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Uh so I don't know, but let him lose and
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  Speaker 8: let that noise start getting. That noise is starting to
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  Speaker 8: get a little loud with aj Brown. Let it get
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  Speaker 8: a little bit louder because then they're talking about like
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  Speaker 8: if you cut him, I think it's like a forty
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  Speaker 8: million dollar cap, like dead cap hit. So they trade
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  Speaker 8: him almost well, which is a lot, but still we
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  Speaker 8: see worse.
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  Speaker 2: Sold sold it. We make the deal.
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  Speaker 4: So Brown, the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Mickey listen to Mickey. If you live in the Saints,
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  Speaker 2: what if you're.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to Mick take a round pick for a j Brown,
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  Speaker 3: You gave a fourth rounder up for Receie.
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  Speaker 3: And then I think we convinced ourselves by the end
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, He'll be looking for houses near the park
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  Speaker 2: Heard it here first, heard it here first?
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  Speaker 8: I think again, we got no clue, Like, what kind
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  Speaker 8: Can have a little bit. Yeah, good one, get out
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  Speaker 8: of here. I wonder what Kellen's relationship is with Aj
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  Speaker 6: Nothing, it's probably good. He got a ton of passes
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  Speaker 6: last year. Yeah, I mean it's probably pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 8: You know what else, if you want to dominate, if
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  Speaker 8: that's like your golf, that's what keeps you going. Every
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  Speaker 8: player has their why. We had somebody to say that
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  Speaker 8: tell it, give us a speech about that. In the NFL,
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  Speaker 8: you have your why, like in usually in college and
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  Speaker 8: high school, like you played the why because your competitor.
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  Speaker 8: You play for your like you you play to win,
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  Speaker 8: that's your why, like you're a team.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes in the NFL, you got a lot of guys.
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  Speaker 8: That play to win. They want the team to be successful.
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  Speaker 8: You got a lot of guys that play for money.
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  Speaker 8: You got a lot of guys that play for family.
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  Speaker 8: You got a lot of guys that play for individual
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  Speaker 8: stats and trophies and success and accolades. And they're like,
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  Speaker 8: it doesn't matter what it is, whatever it is, you
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  Speaker 8: play for your why, you know. And so if his
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  Speaker 8: why is individual stats and to be that guy to dominate,
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  Speaker 8: if he likes it, that's what gets him going. Awesome,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such a good that's a great point about
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the why, because everybody's why is different.
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  Speaker 2: And don't judge anybody's why.
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  Speaker 8: Like if a player in the NFL plays hard because
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  Speaker 8: he wants to get a big contract, So what.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: What is your why? Like why am I here? You
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: have one?
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know what, Like like playing football, mine
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: was just more competitive just I wanted to be I mean,
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: it was a job, so certainly I wanted to make
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  Speaker 8: a living.
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  Speaker 2: I would have done it for a lot less money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I would.
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  Speaker 8: I would have done it for if if I would
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: if I could have said agreement, I would have done
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  Speaker 8: it for whatever I could. Same thing if I was
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: just tired of like bouncing, Like yeah, I get that.
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  Speaker 8: I get that.
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  Speaker 3: My one of my big wise was like you can
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  Speaker 3: impose your will on somebody else.
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  Speaker 2: I legally you can do that. Like that's that's fun.
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  Speaker 2: Just that's what Like that's good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the part that you miss too, is
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: just like having that Like now, when you get mad
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  Speaker 3: at somebody, there's nothing you can really do about it,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you know, if you're a grown adult, it's like, well
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  Speaker 3: you can, but then you get arrested.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: It's that's not fun, right, Like.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Just having that about it fun and you and you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: think about like what you're able to get away with,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and it's like somebody says something and you're like, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: we've got like thirty more plays left in this game, right,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Like you know there's going to be a way that
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to find you somewhere in here. It's like
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: those little individual battles and look, sometimes after a game,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: like it'd be like, hey, meadheads out, Hey, that was fun, bro,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Like I hated you for sixty minutes.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I hated you, And sometimes it leans a little bit
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: out of the way you compete.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like some of the best ones that you
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: played against. It's like, man, I really like I respect
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  Speaker 3: the hell out of the way that you play football,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Like I hated you for like the entire game, Like
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I was saying so many bad things about you.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: But what was the guy's.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Name from uh San Francisco defensive lineman Missouri basic name,
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  Speaker 3: Justin from Missouri Justin SMI. Oh yeah, that guy, Justin Smith.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You remember him.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He was a psycho for sixty minutes, so good. He
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: got kicked out of two different times. He got kicked
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: out of our game when we played the forty nine ers,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: but afterwards he'd be like, hey, respect the hell man.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: One time he hit me with the hey man for
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: a little fella, you bring it?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Hit me with the little fella. Yeah, me for the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: little fella. I'm like, yes, sir, that guy Like but
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: those are the guys. Like he was sixty minute animal.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: He would go to a place where he would lose
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: his mind. Yep.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: And I don't think he was there, but like that's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: that was his why, Like he had to, That's what
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: he had, what he looked for.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Want legally hurt people. What's fine.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And then after the game he'd give your your props.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Now that's the way. If you didn't show up and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: you were kind of but you know what, he'd also
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: call you out after the game. Call it like we
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: had we had a teammate. I'm not gonna put a
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: name on him. We had a teammate that was starting rivers. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: because Philip never wanted to smoke. Philip would be getting
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: in fights for everybody. We had a guard who didn't
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: play a whole lot and he had to come into
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: that game like after the game, like justin Smith one time,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: he's like, hey, man, if you want to stay in
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: this league.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You gotta get a whole lot tougher.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: And it actually like that guy that played that position whatever,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: he was probably going to be out of the league
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: pretty soon, but like he had that as a mess motivation.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: He got a little motivation. He got like five more
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: years out of the league. He straight up say he say, hey, man,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: if you want to stay here, you gotta be a
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: whole lot tougher.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, let's you gotta be better. There
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: is a way to handle it, and that's the way
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to handle it. Call a couple of the Saints leven.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: You go beat up on people, you compete, and then
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: after the game you shake their hands. You don't do
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: it like Brian Branch for the Lions did this past
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: week Lions versus Chiefs. I know we also we hadn't
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: talked about him in this show, but what a pretty
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: good little fight.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Pretty good little fight.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Right afterwards, he did not shake hands. He just went
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: and punched. Was it Juju?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: And then Juju was actually like I'm gonna flop here
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: like like Vottie de Vat and he's like, oh no,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I can't go out like that. Then he tried to
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: like go in and get some and then it was
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: like kind of too late. Then ended up on the
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: ground with a bloody lip, and.
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he did kind of like flop because nobody's ever
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: been punched that hard in the history of humanity.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think where right, And he's like why why
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that flop?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, I get a penalty now, yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, I got to go, like I
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: gotta go do something. And then like you know, Juji's
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: like a TikTok guy. No, no direspect to him. That's
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: what he is. And he ended up with a bloody lip.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't good. So it's good.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Like when you get in fights like that, it's good
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: to have your homet on because you know, punching helmets
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: is tough. But it's also bad because they get ahold
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: of that face mask. You kind of go where your
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: head goes, just saying not that now as a quarterback.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: So didn't get in a lot of fights. What if though,
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: I'll protect the money maker here.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I don't trust Corbett. I won't get in a fight.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I mean I'd kind of get in there. I talk.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the best part about all the trash that Philip
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: would talk and like he you know, he'd be ready
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to but like he would talk it for us sometimes
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: and the player would get mad at us even though
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: we didn't say it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you can't listen to Philip.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't say that, I know, like, give you a linebacker. Hey,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you're gonna let twenty two run over you like that again.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, twenty twenty two is coming for I'm like Philip.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: My number out, oh branch.
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: He'd get a game, by the way he did for that, right, Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: he got a game.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I was hoping, like in that whole fight situation with
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs and the Lions, I was hoping like we
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: would get a really good Dan Campbell over the top
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: something like I wanted Dan Campbell basically to fight a
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: current player.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: See who win. Yeah, I mean there's a code out there.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: There's a code of conduct out there, like if you
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: want to fight, like people get games. People get suspensions
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: for fighting during the game after plays like that is
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: the I mean, I'm not saying it's acceptable when you
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: do that, but at least it's between the game that
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: started the game and the end of the game. Yeah, hey,
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: this one was a little bit I thought. I thought
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: there's a potential he might get a little bit more
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: than one game, because it was it's that unspoken code
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: like after the game's over, like we're not fight and
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: after the game, like let's fight during the game if
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: you want to fight, Like, let's do it during the
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: game where there's penalties that out there, that there's soletly
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: some sort of policing happening. So I thought, just because
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: it was kind of that like code, that unspoken code
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: like after the game, that could have been a little.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Bit more than one.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a three game,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: if I'm being honest with Yeah, yeah, I did too,
• 29:20
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  Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven, you're
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB here live in the
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  Speaker 3: Rais Kain studio, looking at the slates in college football
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  Speaker 3: coming up this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: You got a sneaky game on.
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  Speaker 3: Friday night, little freaky Friday matchup between Louisville and Miami.
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  Speaker 3: This one is going to be at hard Rock Stadium,
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  Speaker 3: Miami thirteen and a half point favorite. Remember the Louisville
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  Speaker 3: ran the football all over Miami a year ago. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Miami certainly shored up some of their front seven issues
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  Speaker 3: really on both lines scrimmage. Miami's interesting because they're five
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  Speaker 3: to zero, number two team in the country.
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  Speaker 2: They yeah, that dog will hunt. They beat Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 2: they beat South Florida, they beat Florida, they beat Florida State.
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  Speaker 3: So even though some of those teams aren't who we thought,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they would be still good wins for Miami. And
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  Speaker 3: as they get ready for the rest of their schedule,
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  Speaker 3: they are going to be big favorites, I think in
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  Speaker 3: the rest of their games. Maybe not at SMU. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see what that line looks like. They're going to be
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  Speaker 3: a favorite, but maybe maybe it's three and a half.
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  Speaker 3: So you got Louisville Stanford at home, you go to SMU,
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  Speaker 3: then you come back home for Syracuse and NC State,
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  Speaker 3: then you go on the road for Virginia Tech and
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  Speaker 3: Pitt it's pretty pretty nice little path favor for the
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  Speaker 3: Miami Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying they've got a good path to the playoff?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because even if they look, if they win those
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  Speaker 3: games and they face off against right now Georgia Tech
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  Speaker 3: or Virginia in the a SEC Championship game, let's say
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  Speaker 3: it's Orgia Tech and Georgia Tech beats them, You're still
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. One lost Miami team is gonna absolutely
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: be in the playoff. If you're a Hurricane fan and
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you're looking at what you have in front of you,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's this week against Louisville and it's at
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  Speaker 3: s m U and everything else. I don't want to
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: say you can have an easy time, but it ain't
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  Speaker 3: gonna be.
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  Speaker 8: Different, not gonna be bad. Weren't you on the Syracuse
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  Speaker 8: train earlier before the quarterback got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, their quarterback was leading the country and passing yards
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  Speaker 3: before you got hurt, like the fourth week in the season.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, it must be nice to be
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  Speaker 8: in the ACC, especially with you know, without.
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  Speaker 2: It in there. Well SCHEDEAH and then schedules lists ACC and.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I credit Miami because Miami did play notre Dame
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  Speaker 3: in South Florida and Florida out of conference, so they
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  Speaker 3: had they had some good games. Uh, but schedule and
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: balance is real. Like, let's look at what Georgia Tech
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  Speaker 3: still has on their schedule. Okay, They've got at Duke, Syracuse,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: at NC State, at Boston College Pitt and then Georgia
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  Speaker 3: and the Mercedes Benz Stadium because they moved their game
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  Speaker 3: from Bobby Dodd So for them, right, they don't get
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  Speaker 3: Miami either. Now, they had Clemson and that certainly looked
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  Speaker 3: different when that game happened. But even for Georgia Tech, now,
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  Speaker 3: this game against Duke's going to be pretty difficult on
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  Speaker 3: the road. Duke's figured some things out, many Diaz has
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  Speaker 3: him played really well. They're three to zero conference play,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: but you get past that, then it's like for the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the way Syracuse, NC State, Boston College Pit
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be a favorite in those games. And you were,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: i mean inches away from beating Georgia about seventeen different.
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  Speaker 2: Times last year. Yep, on the road.
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  Speaker 3: So the ACC right now, you've got undefeated teams in
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  Speaker 3: conference play Georgia Tech, Virginia, Duke, SMU, and Miami.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm looking at SMUs record right now, let's say
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  Speaker 8: they lost to I don't know, do you you consider
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  Speaker 8: losing a Baylor at home a good loss?
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  Speaker 2: Forty forty five? Hey? Ky, they were up in that
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  Speaker 2: game too, forty forty five.
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  Speaker 8: And they lost the TCU at TCU thirty five to
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  Speaker 8: twenty four. That's an intriguing matchup. It's a Saturday. You
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  Speaker 8: got SMU at Clemson as well as Clemson. Are they
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  Speaker 8: playing a little bit better? Are they finding their stride
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  Speaker 8: a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: They are playing better, but they've already got two losses
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  Speaker 3: in conference play, Like what.
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  Speaker 8: SMU at Clemson two thirty eight? Ye, so tough a
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  Speaker 8: little bit to me? I probably I would go Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that they had not They're they're not
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: the team that we thought they would be by any means,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and they've beaten two bad teams back to back. Now
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I pontoon parlay Clemson right now, nine and a half
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  Speaker 3: point favorite against SMU.
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  Speaker 5: U is undefeated in the ACC.
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  Speaker 6: Like they lost their first game of the year, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: like they figured it out a little bit, kind of
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  Speaker 6: like Jake was talking about with Douke, Like they're they're
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  Speaker 6: undefeated a c C play Clemson's fine.
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  Speaker 5: But they're not nine and a half points.
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  Speaker 2: Nine and a half. No way, they're not.
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  Speaker 6: Is it that Clemson?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I still don't think that's They're gonna get
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  Speaker 8: on the bus.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna run down their hill.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: He's gonna blow his ac out, blows.
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  Speaker 8: Leg out right there, then you got the inner and
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  Speaker 6: They lost a three point game to Baylor. That was
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  Speaker 6: their first big game of the year. They lost to
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  Speaker 6: t c U, who was playing really well at the time.
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  Speaker 6: You have a win over Syracuse blow out when there
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  Speaker 6: you just blew out Stanford like they're playing better.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big number. That's a big number. It's a
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  Speaker 2: yeah by half point as well. The par well this
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  Speaker 2: is get a little half point there. They're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: So if the ACC right now is settled as far
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: as like we can find a path for Miami to
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  Speaker 3: be in Charlotte for the ACC championship game, I do
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  Speaker 3: want to take a break and come back and talk
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  Speaker 2: We'll break it down.
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  Speaker 3: The Big Twelve, y'all kind of looked at me when
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: That's disrespectful.
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  Speaker 3: That is the game of the week in the Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't, if you don't dabble in the
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  Speaker 3: Big Twelve, you need to h It is a great
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  Speaker 3: brand of football. It's so much fun to watch, and
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  Speaker 3: it's good football. And I think that Texas Tech is
• 42:39
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  Speaker 3: they've certainly shown that they are worthy of a top
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• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, they are playing some good football. They're five
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and one. It's going to come down to the wire
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  Speaker 3: to see who can challenge Texas Tech for that other spot. Remember,
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• 43:08
  Speaker 3: say you can't get to I mean again, you've got
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: The Big Twelve was one of those like conferences that
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't that the the.
• 43:34
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  Speaker 2: To go to the graveyard. Well, they're kind of like
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  Speaker 2: that back. Their commissioner has done a really nice.
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: Great job, and they did it by maintaining a lot
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  Speaker 8: of the teams, bringing some exciting teams in and just
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  Speaker 8: So it's uh, I think we were talking about the
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  Speaker 8: Big twelve leading up to this season. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 8: gonna be some wild situations happen, and it's gonna be
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• 44:34
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• 44:38
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• 44:40
  Speaker 8: go against each other You really don't know what's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 8: So it is like if you said, if you don't
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  Speaker 2: It's like must watch TV a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some good ones out there in the Big
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  Speaker 3: Twelve and again the Holy War BYU an underdog, and
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• 45:06
  Speaker 3: recipes for success, and they do it at a very
• 45:08
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  Speaker 2: This is not the old Big Twelve.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: You look at like the points per game that teams
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: like BYU and Texas Tech and Utah give up. I mean,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: there's some of the leaders in the country in total defense.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: They have three teams that are in the top twenty
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: five of total defense in the country. You can never
• 45:25
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• 45:28
  Speaker 3: fifty five to fifty one. It's a different brand of football.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a throwback style of football.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: For the most part. You still got your Baylors and
• 45:36
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