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Behind The Scenes: The Struggle Before The Camera · Voices for Voices®

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• 3:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you.
• 3:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So today's show we're gonna talk about life in front of the camera or in front of a microphone and what that's like.
• 3:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some things may surprise you, some may not, uh, but thought I would uh share a little bit because I do spend a good amount of time uh in front of the camera recording voice for the uh the audio podcast portion.
• 4:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then we also for those that are watching or have watched the TV show portion on YouTube or Rumble, you can find those.
• 4:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and so yeah, so what's what's life like in front of the camera?
• 4:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, I don't know, I don't know what your thoughts are, uh what what you think, but we're gonna we're gonna go through and just have a another transparent conversation like we do.
• 4:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And again, did I say thank you again for joining us?
• 4:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, thank you for joining us again.
• 5:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So life in front of the camera is very interesting because it's interesting because while there are parts that may seem I don't know like glamorous or like oh, it must be nice to be in front of the camera and must be nice to do this and to do that.
• 5:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I get that, excuse me, but it's not always like that.
• 5:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So what you see is the finished, what you see and or hear is the finished product.
• 5:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So you see the filming portion, whether the video or the audio, that's what you hear or you see.
• 6:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What you don't see are the moments leading up to filming.
• 6:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that can be, you know, we talk about the different topics, different areas that we'd like to share and discuss that are top of mind at the current the current time that we're gonna be doing a show.
• 6:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so nobody sees that part.
• 6:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh yes, there are topics that are very straightforward, but that doesn't make them easy because being in front of a camera, it may look just like you know, this little little camera, which is what it is, and it's got the little ring light around it.
• 7:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: For this particular episode, we got the little ring, but we have a larger ring um light that we we use sometimes depending on various things, various very various variables.
• 7:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so when we're we're trying to come up come up with a topic or an area, we we know that not every single topic and area we discuss is gonna be pertinent, meaning like kind of like relatable to everybody, and we know that.
• 7:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And our goal is to reach and help at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 8:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, if we if we talk about the same thing every single time, it might get a little old.
• 8:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Now, there are times where we do talk about similar topics, and the reason why we do that is because it's a current thing that's happening, and so it would be um it wouldn't be a let's see, it wouldn't be the the best thing to do to skip it and to go to another topic when things are going on mentally, physically, spiritually, what have you, you're driving to work, driving to the grocery store, you're you're riding the bus, you're riding the train, you're in the airport, you're flying, you're uh you know, where wherever you're at, uh it might be the first time you're watching and listening to one of our shows.
• 9:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so there's a kind of like a I guess I would call it like a current event.
• 9:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So sometimes current events are very similar, not all similar, not the exact same everything, but there may be elements that make events or experiences similar in nature, and everybody listens, watches, interprets, reads, you know, the transcript.
• 10:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Everybody's like definition in a little in a way could be a little bit different.
• 10:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so when we cover different areas, that's what we or when we cover similar areas, that's what we try to do is speak from a little bit of a different angle.
• 10:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, there's so many, there's so many elements, so many parts of mental health that yeah, there's gonna be some duplication at times.
• 10:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But again, anybody, everybody has mental health no matter what.
• 11:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: No matter what somebody tells you, no matter what you think, no matter what you read in a book, everybody has mental health.
• 11:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, so there's gonna be times where a similar feeling, like taking a shower, you know, doing the hygiene things, brushing teeth.
• 11:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's gonna be times where those are gonna be more difficult than others, and there's gonna be times where we're gonna celebrate that we were able to do that and do those things.
• 11:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So those things are a little bit similar, but they they might be a little bit different as well, and so getting in front of the camera or microphone can can really sap energy because it's in our mind, right?
• 12:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we have uh an idea called the letter A.
• 12:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And we know and we've researched and we have we have a real good idea how we want to how we want to proceed and and uh leave some room for um you know some some uh some experiences that tie into it.
• 12:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You still gotta do it though.
• 13:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You still gotta talk about it, you still gotta go through the not just go through the motions, you have to execute against it.
• 13:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Meaning, okay, an idea comes to mind.
• 13:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I gotta write it down, I gotta put it somewhere if I'm not in front of the camera at that exact time.
• 13:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So ideas, experiences a big part of being in front of the camera, even though that those elements aren't in front of the camera, right?
• 13:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because before we get in front of the camera, we want to have somewhat right, somewhat of an idea of what we're gonna chat about.
• 14:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so for us to do that, we have to have an idea of what we're gonna chat about.
• 14:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: In order to do that, we have to take whether it's a minute, ten minutes, maybe go two days without something solid, and that's good.
• 14:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It helps our mind, helps our body rejuvenate.
• 14:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I took two days off from the gym.
• 14:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I could have fallen into the pit of making today the third day, and then the fourth day.
• 14:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I got up and I was like, alright, we're doing the gym, and so we did it.
• 14:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's kind of executing.
• 14:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, I want to go to the gym, I like the benefits of that, and I'm gonna go.
• 15:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Same thing with getting in front of the camera.
• 15:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Once we have the ideas and the thoughts, we still have to execute, we still have to go in front of the camera and the microphone so that we can complete an episode or two or three, depending on the topic and a myriad of other things.
• 15:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If we don't, then they just become idea, they just remain, not they become, they remain ideas.
• 15:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like we can hope, but it's not something that we wanna I don't know, get too tied up in.
• 15:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I hope this and I hope that.
• 15:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, there's some things where we do.
• 16:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We wanna we hope we get to do this, or we hope we get to do this, and we hope we don't have to do this, and then we hope that we don't have to do that.
• 16:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But when it comes down to it, you gotta do it.
• 16:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So getting in front of the camera, you have to have something to talk about.
• 16:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Right?
• 16:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, that goes without saying.
• 16:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, what's prepared me, I guess, a little bit for this?
• 16:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So uh I teach at a local univers local university.
• 16:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So over the course of my teaching career, I've taught undergrad, graduate, online, in person.
• 16:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I've created courses um to over a thousand students, and this is coming from like a smaller university, I would say.
• 17:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So a thousand students over the amount of time that I've been teaching is a lot.
• 17:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So there's a lot of individuals that I've had the uh the the luxury of being able to share some of my knowledge that I have.
• 17:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, nobody's perfect, so I just share my knowledge and and part of it can stick, and some parts don't.
• 17:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So standing up or being in front of the camera on an online course, I've had a lot of experience doing that.
• 18:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of doing that.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, right before I went in and had my uh mental health uh on the hit rock bottom mental health wise.
• 18:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um I was still teaching, but I was having panic attacks, I was having all kinds like in my mind, in my mind, I was like, this is what I want to do.
• 18:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I would like to teach, I would like to have this opportunity, and then it got to the point where I I did this that was becoming a little bit too much for where I was at, and it wasn't a lot, but it was just too much at at that time.
• 19:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I spoke in front of groups, big and small.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, three hundred students at a time, or twenty-five organization uh members at a time.
• 19:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so those types of things help set me up to be a little bit more comfortable in front of the camera.
• 19:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So there is stress being in front of the camera.
• 20:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I haven't mastered stress, I haven't mastered anxiety.
• 20:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm doing the best I can.
• 20:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm doing the best I can, just like all of us.
• 20:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're all doing the best that we can.
• 20:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So sometimes I'll have elevated anxiety or stress, and that will show through to an episode or more.
• 20:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it has.
• 20:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, you know, let's be real here.
• 20:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It has the more comfortable we are talking about a topic, the more we understand, the more we research, the more we you know practice, the better that we can be.
• 21:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I talk, I think about the teaching opportunities and the speaking opportunities that I've had, all those things really have prepared me for this voices for voices venture with the podcast and TV show.
• 21:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because, yeah, I mean, I guess we could get in front of the camera and just start talking and talking and talking, and some of our shows may seem like that.
• 21:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That just means I have elevated stress and anxiety, and um and so we have a lot of episodes 553.
• 21:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think this is gonna be 554.
• 21:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So there's a lot of episodes, a lot of topics, a lot of guests, a lot of solo episodes.
• 22:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so we have to be able to not even talk coherently.
• 22:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, yeah, that's nice and easy.
• 22:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, oh yeah, that must be easy just to sit there and talk.
• 22:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, it's not.
• 22:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not easy.
• 22:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: After all the shows that we've done and all the teaching I've done, I still have anxiety.
• 22:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I still have stress.
• 22:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Have I learned to manage it?
• 22:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Not really.
• 22:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, yeah, I have coping mechanisms and you know the uh the therapy and all that and medications and and all that, but that that doesn't take every ounce of stress and anxiety away.
• 23:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So practice is helpful.
• 23:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I know I stutter at times, I know I pause at times, I know I say like and so a lot.
• 23:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's just me.
• 23:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just me being transparent.
• 23:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I say and a lot.
• 23:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so probably a lot.
• 23:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so again, what you see and what you hear it seems to be like, oh, that's easy to do.
• 24:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, it may be that I know there's people that are better than me that have shows and podcasts.
• 24:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sure.
• 24:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not the best.
• 24:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm doing my best.
• 24:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm on the best for me, the best that I can do.
• 24:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But there's so many other great, fantastic podcasts and shows out there that that that helps me in front of the camera of just to understand Justin, you just have to be yourself.
• 24:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You say, like, oh, that's easy to say.
• 24:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, it is easy to say, but there's gonna be times where I'm looking away, I'm looking down, I'm looking this, that.
• 24:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's times I'm gonna have, you know, kind of like the what the best I can do for a beard.
• 25:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, you know, some facial hair, sometimes not.
• 25:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes my hair is gonna be longer, and sometimes not.
• 25:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes I'm gonna have a hat on, sometimes I'm not.
• 25:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes I'm gonna have a branded shirt.
• 25:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It says voices for voices for voices, or sometimes not.
• 25:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: All those are elements you gotta think about.
• 25:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's easy to go, well, yeah, you just do this.
• 25:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, once you do it, it becomes a little easier, but it just takes me a few extra minutes of going.
• 25:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, are we doing a show today?
• 25:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, in my mind, this is how it kind of goes.
• 25:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Am I doing a show today?
• 25:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think so.
• 25:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, so I gotta make sure um I have the the the branded or the unbranded uh shirt, hat, no hat, uh ready and uh and available that it's it's not somewhere where I won't be able to to find it.
• 26:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's another part about being a friendly camera.
• 26:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It looks like like well, yeah, that makes sense.
• 26:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why wouldn't you have a voices for voices hat or a voices for voices shirt uh on while you're doing your show?
• 26:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, yeah, it does make a lot of sense, but you still gotta have it, you still gotta find it.
• 26:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just like my socks.
• 26:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I think everybody has the socks um ordeal at times where you can find one, but you can't find the other one.
• 26:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's like the washer or dryer's like eating it or something.
• 27:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, it hasn't eaten it, but it's like, where did the other sock go?
• 27:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I had two and they both went in, and so it's the same thing.
• 27:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I'm looking for a shirt for the show.
• 27:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is it washed?
• 27:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is it ready?
• 27:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Can I find my hat?
• 27:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Am I gonna not wear my hat?
• 27:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're little things, but they make a big difference to the viewer and the listener, not so much to the listener because more of the visualizing me and our guests speaking.
• 27:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But for our viewers, I mean you can absolutely see like, well, yeah, the well, who why wouldn't you?
• 27:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's like that that's a good observation, but we still have to do it, just like we still have to do we still have to have topics and ideas and thoughts that we want to share.
• 28:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, we still we want to have the clothing, the branded clothing or unbranded, somewhere where we can get to it easily.
• 28:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So if it's in the middle of the day and I'm working on something, and I go, oh, an idea just came to me.
• 28:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I have to also think about is everything charged?
• 28:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is the camera charged?
• 28:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is the light charged?
• 28:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Is the microphone?
• 28:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So yeah, you say, Well, make sure that you you know, all yeah, makes sense to make sure that you know you have everything charged up.
• 28:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, how about this?
• 28:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You might say, well, why don't you just have it charging while you're doing it?
• 28:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, sometimes you can't, sometimes you can, and one of the times, like now, where I can't, is because there's different locations where I film shows at some you can barely see like my fate, like it it's like it's nighttime.
• 29:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So even with the the ring light, it it doesn't matter.
• 29:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It I still, and there's probably shows still out there that are like that.
• 29:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Now that'd be the closest place to have everything plugged in, but if nobody can see my face, or if it's just real dark, then it kind of beats the purpose, defeats the purpose of doing it, of doing a show that that's gonna be you know viewable because it's just gonna look again, just all gonna be look like it's nighttime.
• 30:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: To where I'm at now, it's a different spot, but there's no charger, charging station close.
• 30:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not like it's miles away.
• 30:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not, it's far enough they can't reach it, and so have to have the battery life in these times to be able to unplug and film without running out of battery power.
• 30:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, is it is this rocket science I'm talking about?
• 31:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely not.
• 31:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But each of these individual things impact being in front of the camera.
• 31:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If the camera's not charged, if the lights are charged, you're not gonna get in front of the camera.
• 31:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, you can get in front of the camera, but the camera's not gonna be able to turn on, the lights aren't gonna turn on.
• 31:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You get what I'm saying?
• 31:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If you don't have the branded clothes or or the non-logo, sometimes I do have and wear shirts with logos and that.
• 31:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But 98, 99% of the time I have a certain brand.
• 31:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We have a certain brand, and like I have the hat, but I have like a plain shirt, plain color shirt.
• 32:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So all those add up too, right?
• 32:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So it's not just am I ready for the show?
• 32:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's is the equipment ready for the show.
• 32:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we can want to do a show, we can be ready.
• 32:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But if everything's not if if the filming equipment is not charged, and I'm at a location that it's gonna make me look like I it's night time, I gotta find a spot, another setting, where it doesn't look like that.
• 32:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So it's like this, where it's much better.
• 32:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Doesn't mean I'm I'm not saying I'm good looking, I'm just saying you can at least see if you're watching, you can at least see a person speaking, my head nods.
• 33:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes I'll you know, do do the neck stretches, and but that's just me, and that's where the transparency comes through.
• 33:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I don't have to be so, and I'm not so polished.
• 33:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I want it, I want to be like we are.
• 33:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, when we first started the show, we had this whole monologue kind of part, like an intro.
• 33:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it would take five or six minutes or more to go through it.
• 33:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And when you're shooting for thirty like thirty minutes exactly, or around there, or sixty minutes around there, it's mostly if you're you know if you're shooting for the 30-minute episodes, you gotta be darn, you know, that takes you, right?
• 34:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So 30 minus five or six, that's 24 minutes for a show.
• 34:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I know I'm way over that right for this show.
• 34:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But it gives it this gives us flexibility that we can have a show that's 20 minutes, we can have a show that's 50 or 35 or 40.
• 34:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But that's because we're so transparent.
• 34:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes we have to, you know, if we have a guest and um sometimes their availability is only specific timing, and so that's another thing to get in front of the camera.
• 35:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, okay, I got the branded clothes, the hat, uh, deal, all the equipment's charged, ready to roll.
• 35:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Find that spot where it doesn't look like it's dark, it's nighttime where I'm at.
• 35:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If I'm talking to a guest and they literally only have a certain amount of time, well, I gotta make sure that you, our viewers, our listeners, wherever you may be, are able to have a good sense of who the guest is, what they do, and the topics.
• 35:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And sometimes that's easy to do.
• 35:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If somebody talks fast, sometimes that's difficult to do, or it's like, darn it.
• 35:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just wish I had like five more minutes or three more minutes, and so that's when the monologue started to go by the wayside, where it's like, no, like we'll do we'll do like a semi-monologue, but the semi-monologue's in my head, it's not written down anywhere.
• 36:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, yeah, I could look at previous episodes, but I want to be authentic, so I just want to be like, hey, I'm here, you can see, I'm the one speaking, I'm not lip syncing, no teleprompter, it's just me and the camera, the light, and you watching or listening.
• 36:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so guests have the ability to affect me being in front of the camera.
• 36:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, individually, each thing I'm talking about is not hard.
• 37:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, I'm not talking about building a rocket ship.
• 37:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not building SpaceX, you know, I'm not building rocket ships getting ready to go to Mars or the like with Elon Musk.
• 37:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 37:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But if you take these little things and you add them together, like a little bit, then a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more.
• 37:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So now it looks like a lot.
• 37:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Or more obviously more than just one thing on its own.
• 37:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I hope I've been able to give you a little bit of an overview.
• 37:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I know I didn't cover probably everything.
• 37:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I said, I'm not perfect, nobody is.
• 38:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I shared the the best information that I could at this this current time.
• 38:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But you know, again, in front of the camera, takes a lot of different pieces.
• 38:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some of it we have a lot of control over, some of it we don't.
• 38:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I realize there are so many other shows that are so much so much better, so much more polished.
• 38:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, they're coming with graphics.
• 38:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, sometimes we'll do that, we'll do a screen share.
• 38:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I'm not the best at it.
• 38:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I do the best I can, but I'm not the best at it.
• 38:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's there's so many other shows out there that that are able to do that.
• 38:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just being me.
• 38:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Our guests are just being their guest, they're just being themselves, and that's all we want.
• 39:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We want transparency, we want to help people.
• 39:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's that's what it comes down to.
• 39:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We want to help people build on that foundation of mental health, trauma, recovery, and much, much more.
• 39:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, thank you for joining us on this episode of the show, of the podcast.
• 39:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Can't do this without you.
• 39:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, again, if you can give us a thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, reshare, repost, pull out that phone, or if you're on your phone listening or watching, reach out to an A25 or 50 of your contacts and share the Voices for Voices podcast and TV show with them.
• 39:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because we can't do this without you.
• 39:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're not at episode number 554, which this episode is without you.
• 40:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Without you, we don't have a show, we don't have an organization.
• 40:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're doing something else.
• 40:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's because of you, the viewers, the listeners, here in the United States, all across the world, it's exceeding my expectations.
• 40:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It really is.
• 40:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I got the goosebumps because it really is that this camera that I look into or near is gonna be able to be beamed all across the world like every other episode has.
• 40:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just so thankful to have have you with us.
• 40:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So if you can help us out with some of those free things, follow us on social media.
• 40:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That was the other area.
• 40:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Follow us on social media, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.
• 41:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're rebuilding our TikTok that got taken down by um well, we're not gonna get into that um right now.
• 41:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because we've had a good show, we've had a positive show, and we will talk to you and see you very soon.
• 41:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Until then, let's celebrate all the voices in the world and let's be a voice, not only for us, but maybe somebody else in need that they're not able to share their voice as strongly as they uh they wish that they could.
• 41:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So thank you very much.
• 41:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you next time.
• 41:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Bye bye for now.