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Caitlin Clark & Sophie Cunningham Are Breaking The WNBA · Heads Of State Podcast

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SPEAKER_06: There we go.
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SPEAKER_06: We're live.
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SPEAKER_06: Live.
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SPEAKER_03: Live.
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SPEAKER_03: What up?
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SPEAKER_03: Yo, your hat ain't complex, everybody.
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SPEAKER_03: Your hat ain't as stiff as Beth bleak, though.
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SPEAKER_06: Yo, that's just wild.
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SPEAKER_06: Wait, I'm gonna put that up on the screen.
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SPEAKER_06: That's a thumbnail for this episode.
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SPEAKER_06: We gotta look at this.
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SPEAKER_06: Look at that shit.
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SPEAKER_06: I can't, yo.
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SPEAKER_06: He'd be rocking the hat like this.
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SPEAKER_06: Did they get him the right size?
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SPEAKER_03: How is it flowing though?
0:43
SPEAKER_03: How's it flowing like that?
0:44
SPEAKER_06: I think it probably has you remember like the um batting helmets, the ones without the ear things.
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SPEAKER_06: It kind of has like the um what is it?
0:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
0:56
SPEAKER_06: John O'Rourke and Golden.
0:58
SPEAKER_06: Cal Ripkin used to wear that one too without the the the without the protective ear thing.
1:03
SPEAKER_06: But um yeah, it probably got like the um the plastic thing in there that kind of put it makes it sit in your head so you can get it.
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SPEAKER_03: Like a like a little body setup in there.
1:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it makes it breathable.
1:14
SPEAKER_06: That shit is like his he got he either he has a big ass cranium or I think he does.
1:21
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:23
SPEAKER_05: But he still got he got a do-rag under that.
1:25
SPEAKER_03: I got a do-rag under my shit right now.
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SPEAKER_03: No, no, does he have a do no?
1:28
SPEAKER_03: Does he have a no?
1:28
SPEAKER_03: He don't got no do-rag under there.
1:30
SPEAKER_06: He always has a do-rag on.
1:31
SPEAKER_06: He's been bold, yo, he's been bold since 1998, and he always has a do-rag on.
1:36
SPEAKER_03: Like, like literally right there, it don't look like he got a do-rag.
1:39
SPEAKER_03: It don't look like he got a dock.
1:39
SPEAKER_06: Yo, play can we play some of the clips?
1:41
SPEAKER_06: Um what do you want to hear?
1:43
SPEAKER_06: He ain't talking about nothing, you know.
1:44
SPEAKER_06: Like, all right.
1:44
SPEAKER_03: No, no, you talk yo, he's rapping home.
1:46
SPEAKER_03: Look at look at home.
1:47
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we try.
1:48
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna get a copyright for this though.
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SPEAKER_06: Whatever.
1:50
SPEAKER_06: Uh oh.
1:51
SPEAKER_06: It was true.
1:51
SPEAKER_06: We'll play, we'll play it.
1:53
SPEAKER_02: We had an enclosed uh what would you call it?
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SPEAKER_02: Rehearsal.
1:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they had the tent, the topic.
1:58
SPEAKER_02: So you couldn't really feel how you can see it in his eyes how loyal he is.
2:03
SPEAKER_02: When I walked out there and saw the crowd, saw the state.
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SPEAKER_02: My heart just was pounding.
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SPEAKER_02: I was nervous like it was my first show again.
2:12
SPEAKER_02: You felt nervous up there.
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SPEAKER_02: Bro, kidding me?
2:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: You didn't look nervous, Blake.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't, and then remember, I haven't performed.
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SPEAKER_02: We didn't perform coming to age the song, probably like 16 years old.
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SPEAKER_02: He's the most loyal.
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SPEAKER_02: He the most loyal ever since.
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SPEAKER_02: No comparison.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: Wow, the first record that changed my life.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: That's what I had to tell Jay when the show was over.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: I was like, it's so awesome that 30 years ago we were praying this work, and this is the result of those praise of what.
2:39
SPEAKER_02: Hover's like, you mustn't think of the timing.
2:41
SPEAKER_01: We have some old pictures where you and Jay Z started out and how you were coming up.
2:46
SPEAKER_01: And that story is inspiring to so many people.
2:49
SPEAKER_01: So uh this was back in the day.
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SPEAKER_01: Talk about the growth and the elevation that that he embodies and what it means because not all albums 30 years later are getting played, let alone on a stage.
3:00
SPEAKER_02: Artists ain't even some albums ain't getting played 30 days later, let alone 30 years later.
3:05
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Like some of the things I learned from Jay.
3:07
SPEAKER_06: Yo, he wearing a headband under his face.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: My bit my older brother was like the one who took care of me, showing me the ropes.
3:17
SPEAKER_02: But getting with Jay, it was like telling me how to be a man, hold your composure, how to be a businessman.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: And that he's the reason I know if you're not 15 minutes early, you're 30 minutes late.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's like those type of things you he instilling you and just respect, you know, command in a room, never forget who you are, never diminish yourself to be in any room.
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SPEAKER_02: You make a room appear to you.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't appeal to anyone, they appeal to you.
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SPEAKER_02: So just knowing who you are in that belief and determination, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Jay just inbreeds like never quit.
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SPEAKER_02: Sharing to say about that.
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SPEAKER_02: Even whenever you want to say no.
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SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
4:00
SPEAKER_03: Jay-Z's been a great dad to Memphis Bleak, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, I no, honestly.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna give shout out, I'm gonna give a shout out to Jay-Z as Memphis Bleak's dad.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, he's been a good no.
4:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm not even trying to say it sounds funny, but no.
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SPEAKER_03: Like you said, the whole 15 minutes thing and all that, like, he's been a great dad to Memphis Bleak.
4:19
SPEAKER_03: And look, if Jay-Z, now here's my thing.
4:26
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
4:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, is very loyal to 50 Cent, right?
4:30
SPEAKER_03: But Yeah and 50 Cent are closer in age, they kind of they came up together.
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SPEAKER_03: Right now, Memphis Bleak was a young, and he he he he admits to it.
4:38
SPEAKER_03: He says, Yo, I was young.
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SPEAKER_03: This ain't this more like an uncle or something.
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SPEAKER_03: So with Memphis Bleak, it's almost like de facto, what what what you ever gonna be able to say about Hove?
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SPEAKER_03: Like, I raised you.
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SPEAKER_05: So Yeah, but and that's you know what's so funny about that though, Marvel?
4:56
SPEAKER_05: Dame actually says the same thing about Bleak.
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SPEAKER_05: He's like, yo, I respect his loyalty, like straight up.
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SPEAKER_05: Like, I mean, I know me and yo is beefing and everything, but Bleak is a loyal cat.
5:07
SPEAKER_05: Now, the question I have to ask why were the Beans or any other artists able to kind of take what they learned from Hove and kind of flip it and make it more longwithstanding, if you will.
5:23
SPEAKER_06: Cause they didn't come up, they didn't go through the same struggle.
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SPEAKER_06: Because Bleak was there since '94, really.
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SPEAKER_06: Like he's been with Jay since he was a little kid.
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SPEAKER_06: So he saw everything that they were doing.
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SPEAKER_06: And then when Beans and them got signed, they was already Bentley's and adults, right?
5:41
SPEAKER_06: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_06: Like planes and shit.
5:42
SPEAKER_06: Remember, remember Beans was like, yo, he just handed me the keys to a Bentley and was like, yo, here, here's a car.
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SPEAKER_06: Right?
5:48
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
5:48
SPEAKER_06: And he was like, I was driving a Ben's and Bentley, and none of them were mine.
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SPEAKER_06: I just drove them.
5:52
SPEAKER_06: And he was like, I kept them.
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SPEAKER_06: I didn't even know where to, but you know, he's had all his money and all this shit.
5:56
SPEAKER_06: So they they came up different, and they was all like thugged out.
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SPEAKER_06: Like they came, they took them right off the streets and put them in, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: So it's a little different, especially, you know, I feel bad for Chris and Neef.
6:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but they signed bad deals.
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SPEAKER_06: They definitely signed bad deals, and and the fact that they, you know, they they did their thing on the road.
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SPEAKER_06: I mean, but they didn't get any money.
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SPEAKER_06: Like, I heard stories.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, shout out to Chris, Chris um Neef Buck, but I I remember um Chris.
6:27
SPEAKER_06: Um out of a club.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I seen him out in DC at a Wale thing.
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SPEAKER_06: And um, you know, he's just like a regular dude.
6:36
SPEAKER_06: And then I've seen these interviews where they were talking about how like how much money they made.
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SPEAKER_06: They all they made like two, three grand a show at the most.
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SPEAKER_06: And they just put it in their pocket because everything was taken care of, but then they took that two, three grand, they bought dumb shit like weed and and you know, like whatever, gave it to their family or whatever.
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SPEAKER_06: Like, and then they and then when they walked away from all the record deals and stuff, there was no residuals coming in.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, they only these guys only went gold and you know, oh yeah, whatnot.
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SPEAKER_06: They didn't go platinum plus or whatever, beans, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Memphavore, obviously, but Memphis, you know, like Memphis was he had business with with Jay, and they you know, Jay always took care of him, but everybody else was on their own, really.
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SPEAKER_03: Once once Memphis Blake heard that he was in uh Jay-Z will.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm sure if when he heard that song, he was probably thinking to himself, I'm good.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I made it, I really made it.
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SPEAKER_06: Um Jay gave him everything they needed to be successful.
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SPEAKER_06: Like, he helped the Beans set up state property, him and Jay, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Set up the the group and the fucking label and the clothing line on the clothing line, yeah.
7:45
SPEAKER_06: All that stuff.
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SPEAKER_06: They just didn't capitalize on it because they thought everything was gonna last forever.
7:49
SPEAKER_06: I really feel bad for Petey Crack though, because he was on the tail end of that shit.
7:52
SPEAKER_05: I honestly shout out to Pete Crack.
7:54
SPEAKER_05: First of all, Chris could really spit.
7:56
SPEAKER_05: Like young Chris, he he he had a look, he was young.
8:00
SPEAKER_05: He could have really he just got caught in once Rockefeller broke up, he was like you said, Marvel, collateral damage.
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SPEAKER_05: Like he actually deserved a better look, I think.
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SPEAKER_05: Like, yeah, he deserved a better push.
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SPEAKER_05: P D did too.
8:13
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, um, PD was nice, yeah.
8:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, PD got joints, man.
8:17
SPEAKER_05: You play PD one for PD now, that's joint still bang out.
8:21
SPEAKER_06: You had a fallback with freeway, yeah.
8:26
SPEAKER_05: But you know what the thing is, hove really messes with freeway too, because I think he had a lot of humility.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like he he's he might be thugged out like them, but he has like a sense of composure, and like you can talk to him, you can reason with him.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, smart brother, yeah.
8:44
SPEAKER_05: You know, yeah, he's a good guy, good guy, man.
8:47
SPEAKER_06: Islam right there, that brother is late to that shit.
8:50
SPEAKER_06: Do we do we have to watch any more of this shit?
8:52
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
8:53
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
8:54
SPEAKER_06: We just want to see that hat.
8:55
SPEAKER_06: That children's at the hat later.
8:56
SPEAKER_06: We'll make a meme out of that.
8:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's funny.
8:59
SPEAKER_06: I came on here with a do rag.
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SPEAKER_06: I ain't put a do-rag on in a minute.
9:01
SPEAKER_03: I was just wearing one around the house, and I was like, I can put a strawberry ice cream milkshake.
9:07
SPEAKER_06: Yo, what is that from, yo?
9:08
SPEAKER_06: Is that from Erawana?
9:09
SPEAKER_03: It's called the ice cream yard.
9:11
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you remember.
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SPEAKER_03: There was like a little church down here, and they have a little ice cream spot down there, right down the street, down Frederick Road.
9:17
SPEAKER_05: Can't can't go wrong with a uh oh, down in Damascus area.
9:22
SPEAKER_05: Is it still Clunesberg?
9:24
SPEAKER_03: Okay, right by the high school.
9:26
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
9:28
SPEAKER_06: Uh I gotta I gotta apologize for last week for um not believing that you grew up in a um prosperous environment.
9:37
SPEAKER_06: Ah, I'm apologizing.
9:39
SPEAKER_06: Why can't I just apologize?
9:41
SPEAKER_05: It sounds like a Dave Dash apology, but go on.
9:44
SPEAKER_06: No, that's it, I'm done.
9:45
SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna apologize.
9:46
SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry.
9:47
SPEAKER_05: No, no, we honestly where we grew up is so I love it.
9:52
SPEAKER_05: I love it.
9:53
SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm biased to it.
9:54
SPEAKER_05: I was born there, I was raised there.
9:56
SPEAKER_05: Um grade schools.
9:59
SPEAKER_05: The thing about it, Hugh, and it's like kind of going back onto that Nolan, um the guy who passed away.
10:05
SPEAKER_05: Like a lot of my friends growing up were uh they were all different like nationalities and like all that stuff, right?
10:15
SPEAKER_05: Like my best friend growing up when we was in fourth to fifth grade was uh uh a Lebanese guy named Tony Solomon, right?
10:22
SPEAKER_05: Like cool cat.
10:23
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, we used to go to uh King's Dominion together.
10:26
SPEAKER_05: I I didn't look at it like yo, this cat is this.
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SPEAKER_05: We was just cool, we was into the same thing, comic books and video games, and you know, and I know the rest of the world isn't like that, and it sucks.
10:38
SPEAKER_05: It really does.
10:39
SPEAKER_05: I think we should all be able to have common interests, right?
10:42
SPEAKER_05: But you know, the lines get crossed, um, and that Nolan case is still blowing up, yeah.
10:48
SPEAKER_05: Like new details are coming out now, right?
10:51
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
10:52
SPEAKER_06: Well, okay, so that pool party thing, I think it's not real again.
10:55
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
10:56
SPEAKER_06: No, I don't know.
10:57
SPEAKER_06: I I just don't I don't know.
10:59
SPEAKER_06: They now they've kind of backed off of that narrative, and and now they're saying that you know there's backtracking, but oh that's all fucked up.
11:07
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
11:08
SPEAKER_05: It it it's it's so sad, and it's just like the family just want like justice, like they don't want like you can't bring them back, unfortunately.
11:17
SPEAKER_05: Like that's not happening.
11:19
SPEAKER_05: But if something happened, and he could have he could have drowned, he could have slipped and drowned, don't seem likely, but you know, he could have, you just never know, right?
11:30
SPEAKER_03: Could've yeah, well but depends on where it is, because like did he fall off the boat when it was going yeah because if he if he that close to the shore, it's not gonna be that deep.
11:40
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, true, true.
11:42
SPEAKER_06: This is true, yeah.
11:44
SPEAKER_05: It's still a lot of stuff we don't know about it.
11:47
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, I just uh man, it's definitely, but they're definitely covering up something because there has not been an arrest or a proper investigation yet.
11:56
SPEAKER_06: In negation, right?
11:56
SPEAKER_03: That's the problem, and and it's they're supposed to be analyzing the phone or something.
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SPEAKER_03: I heard recently.
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SPEAKER_06: What's wild about it is that you know, they're after the media attention, not one of these kids or parents was brought in for questioning yet at all.
12:11
SPEAKER_06: Right, right.
12:12
SPEAKER_06: It's fucking wild.
12:14
SPEAKER_06: I I've never seen anything.
12:16
SPEAKER_06: You know, you could do it, do the whole fucking if they were black, yeah.
12:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, if they were fucking black, they'd be they'd be they'd been handcuffed and already.
12:25
SPEAKER_06: They've been in jail waiting for trial.
12:28
SPEAKER_06: Not they don't have been none of this, like, oh, oh, he showed up dead on your watch.
12:32
SPEAKER_06: That's fine.
12:33
SPEAKER_06: Go home.
12:34
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
12:35
SPEAKER_06: Enjoy the rest of your fucking life while his kid's dead.
12:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, fuck these people, yo.
12:39
SPEAKER_06: Regard they should go to all, they should all go to hell just for that shit.
12:42
SPEAKER_06: Fuck them all.
12:43
SPEAKER_03: Maybe they'll get that Boosie pardon.
12:45
SPEAKER_03: That Boosie pardon.
12:46
SPEAKER_06: Oh, look at that segue.
12:47
SPEAKER_06: This guy's turned into a media man.
12:49
SPEAKER_06: He understands.
12:50
SPEAKER_06: I was gonna talk about R.
12:51
SPEAKER_06: Kelly, but since you brought up Boosie, we do both.
12:55
SPEAKER_05: Yo, so okay, so I just saw a headline on the Boosie thing.
12:58
SPEAKER_05: What exactly happened?
12:59
SPEAKER_06: Let's watch the TMZ clip.
13:01
SPEAKER_06: I gotta I gotta queue up.
13:02
SPEAKER_06: I gotta cue up.
13:03
SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
13:03
SPEAKER_06: We have a serious podcast.
13:06
SPEAKER_03: Boosie offered him some lake trout, but he said, nah, bro.
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unknown: Lake trout.
13:12
SPEAKER_03: Boosie.
13:12
SPEAKER_03: Lake trout.
13:14
SPEAKER_06: All right, let's see.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: Says he dropped big money for a presidential partner.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Rapper Boosie Badass says he dropped big money for a presidential partner, but he claims the deal never delivered and now he's suing to get a refund.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: According to a bomb show notice report, the rapper is taking legal action against political operatives Jacob Wool and Jack Bergman.
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SPEAKER_00: After allegedly selling out$600,000 to help secure a pardon from President Trump, one Boosie says never came.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: The report says Boosie, whose legal name is Torrance, had to strip the deal with the pair last fall after they pitched themselves as having major pool inside Trump's orbit.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: Boosie claims they were so confident they acted like they had POTUS on speed up.
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SPEAKER_00: Things allegedly escalated on New Year's Day when Boosie's lawyer got a call claiming Trump had already signed the pardon and the White House just hadn't announced it yet.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: But according to the report, the pardon never surfaced.
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SPEAKER_00: And now Boosie is trying to recover$300,000 under a clause in the contract recalling half of the fee be refunded if no pardon was delivered.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: Jack and Jacob allegedly refused to pay, arguing no refund agreement existed, and later claiming their firm was effectively broke after millions in fines tied to past legal troubles.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: Jack tells TMZ, Boosie has no reason to be unhappy.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: In 30 years of lobbying, I doubt we have ever done more work and harder work.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: The provision in the contract he is referencing was never agreed to at all.
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SPEAKER_00: The other factor is that Boosie's quest for pardon was made much tougher by an arrest from alleged crime of violence in Texas earlier this year.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: We tried very, very hard.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: The report also says a White House official denied the duo had any role in the pardon process.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: Saying the clemency team had never heard from Wool or Berkman and warning their improvement would actually hurt someone's chances of getting a pardon.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Boosie ultimately didn't receive clemency, though he later received a sentence of time served on his federal gun case and remains hopeful a separate pardon application filed directly from the White House will eventually succeed.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: For now, Boosie's biggest legal battle isn't a pardon.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: It's getting his money back.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: We've reached out to Jacob Wool so far, no word back.
15:11
SPEAKER_06: So I know these two guys.
15:12
SPEAKER_06: They were running scams in um I think during the pandemic era where they were just like uh doing like super packs and shit like that, fundraising for Trump and keeping the money.
15:25
SPEAKER_06: And they do this is he they are they are literally in contact with Trump and them.
15:32
SPEAKER_03: But you know what this is like though?
15:33
SPEAKER_03: But you know what this is like?
15:34
SPEAKER_03: This is like being a drug dealer.
15:36
SPEAKER_03: If you go, you get robbed when you try to buy drugs.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: Like, come on.
15:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
15:42
SPEAKER_03: You want to go to buy a pack out it's big baby fucking lax it?
15:48
SPEAKER_03: You want your money back for bribing a motherfucker to get you a party?
15:51
SPEAKER_05: Come on, right.
15:52
SPEAKER_05: Someone told Boosie, this is illegal.
15:58
SPEAKER_05: A White House operative.
15:59
SPEAKER_05: Like, motherfucker, like what he might be able to get the he might be able to get the 300k back.
16:04
SPEAKER_05: Might.
16:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he bought he bought 10 pounds of weed and found out it was a regular on Bailey's.
16:10
SPEAKER_05: It's like yo, they brought me.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: They promised me 10 bricks.
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SPEAKER_05: Due process.
16:15
SPEAKER_05: Due process.
16:19
SPEAKER_03: I got convicted, and this is supposed to go away because I spent some money.
16:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, come on.
16:23
SPEAKER_03: That shit sounds crazy.
16:25
SPEAKER_06: And and this is the thing, yo, with these guys.
16:27
SPEAKER_06: And I think uh one of y'all articulated this in the text message thread.
16:30
SPEAKER_06: I thought this dude was thug down entertainment.
16:32
SPEAKER_06: I don't talk to the cops, I don't work with the feds.
16:35
SPEAKER_06: He paying operatives to get him, get him.
16:38
SPEAKER_06: Like basically, you're this is like almost not like snitching, but I bet you if he had to snitch and give some names, he probably would.
16:46
SPEAKER_06: On top of that, he's suing, he's suing him.
16:49
SPEAKER_06: And he's suing him.
16:50
SPEAKER_06: Come on, bro.
16:50
SPEAKER_05: You know, like you're supposed to just handle this with your with your goods.
16:54
SPEAKER_06: If somebody fucks up the pack, you ain't you ain't are you suing them?
16:58
SPEAKER_06: Come on, boozy.
17:00
SPEAKER_06: I thought you were the streets.
17:01
SPEAKER_06: See these things.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you owe me.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: I only got 50% of my money.
17:04
SPEAKER_06: Let me tell you, and I think Sean, you said this.
17:06
SPEAKER_06: Once you reach a certain income threshold, you know, litigation is not out of the question, especially even if you come from the street.
17:14
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
17:15
SPEAKER_05: No, they that's the ultimate level of like, we're just gonna sue you to death.
17:21
SPEAKER_05: I know.
17:22
SPEAKER_05: I know, and it's the thing about Boosie, and first of all, it's so you know what's so funny about Boosie that he's able to maintain a popularity.
17:30
SPEAKER_05: We're really only two songs in 20 years.
17:33
SPEAKER_05: Okay, like right.
17:35
SPEAKER_05: I mean, come on, like, like I thought Webby was better than Boosie growing up.
17:39
SPEAKER_05: He did have a couple of bangers, you know what I'm saying?
17:41
SPEAKER_05: Like, Boosie don't even like he got good features.
17:46
SPEAKER_06: Though, right?
17:46
SPEAKER_06: And I think he got that lake trout.
17:48
SPEAKER_06: He got that lake trout.
17:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think he wrote a couple of joints with for Drake in that.
17:52
SPEAKER_06: You yo, bro, he's got some ghostwriting credits we don't know about.
17:56
SPEAKER_06: Oh, does he?
17:56
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, money.
17:57
SPEAKER_06: I mean, look, look, and he's been independent.
17:59
SPEAKER_06: Remember, he's been independent most of his career.
18:01
SPEAKER_06: So the money's different when you're independent.
18:04
SPEAKER_05: He he's managed to really stay relevant.
18:07
SPEAKER_05: Vlad really helped him stay relevant.
18:08
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that too.
18:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
18:10
SPEAKER_05: Um, so I mean, I respect him, and you know, he's still touring and all that stuff, but he's in trouble every other weekend.
18:18
SPEAKER_05: That's like damn Boosie likes to be able to do that.
18:20
SPEAKER_05: Shout out to Boosie too.
18:21
SPEAKER_05: Shout out to Boosie.
18:22
SPEAKER_05: Some people can't leave it alone.
18:23
SPEAKER_05: Look at TI.
18:24
SPEAKER_05: I want to try that lake trout.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: I want to try that lake trout.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's lake.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Lake, you know, full trout.
18:30
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's great.
18:32
SPEAKER_06: Um, so wait, R.
18:34
SPEAKER_06: Kelly.
18:35
SPEAKER_06: So speaking of pardon.
18:36
SPEAKER_05: He asked for a pardon too.
18:37
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
18:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, let's let's uh put this out there on the screen here.
18:41
SPEAKER_03: He asked for a free pardon.
18:42
SPEAKER_03: Good luck with that shit.
18:43
SPEAKER_06: I mean, he might make it a case with the woman brothers.
18:49
SPEAKER_06: No, hold on.
18:50
SPEAKER_06: How did I the fuck?
18:51
SPEAKER_06: Oh, what's the okay?
18:52
SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: Before you play this, how could okay?
18:56
SPEAKER_03: How is R.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: Kelly not in the Epstein Files?
18:58
SPEAKER_03: Isn't that kind of the same?
19:00
SPEAKER_06: There's no black people, there's no black people in the Epstein files.
19:03
SPEAKER_06: But isn't that kind of like a little bit of a little bit of a few?
19:05
SPEAKER_06: We'll just set the record straight.
19:06
SPEAKER_06: No, James.
19:07
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
19:08
SPEAKER_03: According to David, that was off the house.
19:11
SPEAKER_03: Yo, James said he and the homeboy in the files.
19:15
SPEAKER_06: No, a lot of people were in the files, like Larry David, whoever, fucking uh Chris was but really, how would R.
19:22
SPEAKER_03: Kelly not be in there?
19:23
SPEAKER_03: How would R.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: Kelly not be in there?
19:24
SPEAKER_05: Because he was not believed Chris Tuck was in that island, though.
19:27
SPEAKER_05: He did.
19:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
19:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he was there.
19:29
SPEAKER_06: He was born there with Clinton.
19:30
SPEAKER_06: Who was born with Epstein?
19:32
SPEAKER_06: But he was there was like a fundraiser.
19:34
SPEAKER_06: There was a bunch of people that went to the went and did something.
19:36
SPEAKER_06: How was R.
19:37
SPEAKER_06: Kelly never go?
19:38
SPEAKER_03: How would R.
19:38
SPEAKER_03: Kelly never go there?
19:40
SPEAKER_06: But he because he dude, he wasn't different, different, different culture, bro.
19:44
SPEAKER_05: We're talking he was dealing with a different clientele of the.
19:47
SPEAKER_06: We're talking Zionists, white supremacists, cannibals who were pedophiles.
19:53
unknown: R.
19:54
SPEAKER_06: Kelly's is a black pedophile, which is very rare.
19:57
SPEAKER_06: But black people aren't usually pedophiles, right?
20:01
SPEAKER_05: Whoa, whoa, wait, wait.
20:06
SPEAKER_03: Molesting children?
20:09
SPEAKER_03: He said he put them on a lower threshold.
20:14
SPEAKER_06: You're bad, but you're not bad.
20:16
SPEAKER_06: There's abuse.
20:16
SPEAKER_06: There's there's pedophilia where, like, you know, like uh like I think in the family, right?
20:21
SPEAKER_06: That's more of a black thing, I think.
20:22
SPEAKER_06: Where the uncle touches the the little whatever, or the father touches the whatever, or the stepfather touches the the little girl boy.
20:31
SPEAKER_03: What do you think the percentage of um R.
20:33
SPEAKER_03: Kelly getting a pardon is?
20:35
SPEAKER_06: I hope it's very high.
20:36
SPEAKER_06: And I and I was and I'm I was pretty serious about like you know, I I can sit I was like, this is how the market.
20:43
SPEAKER_03: This is one of those, this is one of those things where you don't ask 100%.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: You say out of 10%.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: Out of 10%, we all guess.
20:52
SPEAKER_03: Closest to 10%.
20:54
SPEAKER_06: Hey, if R.
20:54
SPEAKER_06: Kelly gets out, he's gonna he better drop that banger, yo.
20:57
SPEAKER_06: That album is gonna be crazy.
20:59
SPEAKER_06: I am going to the concert.
21:00
SPEAKER_06: I don't care if it's in Chicago, I don't care if it's in Timbuktu.
21:04
SPEAKER_06: I'm going.
21:05
SPEAKER_06: You know, I want to go see.
21:06
SPEAKER_05: I heard what I was listening to uh Fat Joe and Jada had a clip.
21:10
SPEAKER_05: They said that they got like another case pending if he does get out.
21:14
SPEAKER_05: Like they they got like more stuff.
21:16
SPEAKER_05: Now I don't know how long that the statue of limitations work on that, but they say they got another case pending ready if he does happen to get on the power get out of the party.
21:26
SPEAKER_06: What's fucked up about his situation, this is why I advocate so much for Kells, is that he has this was well known within the industries for sure years.
21:37
SPEAKER_06: He was on trial for it in 2001 with videotape and he got off.
21:42
SPEAKER_06: RJ, I don't I do not support this activity.
21:45
SPEAKER_06: This man is being taught a very valuable lesson in life, you know, the fuck around and find out type of shit.
21:50
SPEAKER_06: And he's paying for it, but he's in jail.
21:52
SPEAKER_06: I think he's happy.
21:53
SPEAKER_06: He's probably like, he's probably at this point, he's probably gay at this point.
21:57
SPEAKER_06: This guy, I mean, he's a sex addict, he's probably sucking and fucking.
22:00
SPEAKER_06: This is a tangent.
22:01
SPEAKER_06: This is a tangent.
22:04
SPEAKER_06: No, no.
22:05
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying he's probably content with whatever lifestyle he's chosen in his life.
22:08
SPEAKER_06: No, I don't think so.
22:09
SPEAKER_06: You don't think so?
22:10
SPEAKER_06: No.
22:11
SPEAKER_06: You think he's getting conjugals?
22:12
SPEAKER_06: Oh, he might be getting good conjugals.
22:13
SPEAKER_06: He got fun.
22:14
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he's content.
22:15
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think he's content.
22:16
SPEAKER_06: No, but I'm saying, like, maybe.
22:18
SPEAKER_06: No, no, you're right.
22:19
SPEAKER_06: You're probably right.
22:19
SPEAKER_06: He probably getting good conjugals.
22:21
SPEAKER_06: He got he got fan.
22:22
SPEAKER_03: Like these women.
22:23
SPEAKER_03: No, he's not happy.
22:24
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
22:25
SPEAKER_03: Conjugals would mean employment.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like that.
22:27
SPEAKER_03: That's that's I think he's just I don't think he's I'm not hazarding being him behind bars.
22:32
SPEAKER_06: No, conjugal visits, like women coming to see him.
22:34
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's what I'm saying.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: You're saying he's you're saying he's happy.
22:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying he's not happy.
22:39
SPEAKER_06: Uh I'm yeah, he's probably not happy being locked up.
22:42
SPEAKER_06: But he's saying he's content.
22:43
SPEAKER_06: He's in he's pretty much in jail for the rest of his life, right?
22:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 38.
22:47
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's not gonna get out to his like 80.
22:49
SPEAKER_06: So, yeah, like I mean, you have to be content with whatever existence you live in.
22:54
SPEAKER_06: Like, if I went to jail today, God forbid, I'd have to be content with whatever happens to me.
22:59
SPEAKER_06: But I'm pretty sure, you know, he's got a supporting cast, a system.
23:04
SPEAKER_05: That would take a long time.
23:05
SPEAKER_05: That would take a long time to reconcile that with your brain.
23:08
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm not I'm not sure.
23:10
SPEAKER_06: I don't think it takes that long for a guy like this to reconcile that.
23:13
SPEAKER_06: I think he he adapt he's adapting.
23:15
SPEAKER_06: I feel like you've seen the pictures of him singing and doing whatever.
23:19
SPEAKER_06: I think he's adapted.
23:20
SPEAKER_06: I think he's living out he's living the the the prison dream right now.
23:29
SPEAKER_03: You know, no, here's good here we go.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: You know what the funny thing is?
23:31
SPEAKER_03: It's like going to the zoo and you go see all the lions.
23:34
SPEAKER_03: She's like, look at them, they love it.
23:37
SPEAKER_03: Look how happy they're and they put them back into that little hole.
23:43
SPEAKER_05: The line's like, why am I here?
23:46
SPEAKER_03: They got just roaming free like that, and they put it right back into a little case.
23:52
SPEAKER_06: What's wild about this, you know, we pick our poisons when we listen, when we we decide to support certain things.
23:58
SPEAKER_06: I've been the type that says I can separate the man from the art.
24:01
SPEAKER_06: He's done horrible things.
24:03
SPEAKER_06: So is Donald Trump, so is a bunch of other people.
24:06
SPEAKER_06: But when it all when it all comes down to it, bro, his music is just too damn good for me to like say it's I cannot blackballing you.
24:16
SPEAKER_06: Same with Kanye, you know.
24:17
SPEAKER_06: Like, it and and you know, like some of the stuff Kanye was spitting was knowledge too.
24:21
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know what I'm saying?
24:23
SPEAKER_06: Same thing with like a Bill Cosby.
24:24
SPEAKER_06: I don't know about Kels Kels is just a freak.
24:26
SPEAKER_06: He's a that hogtie shit.
24:28
SPEAKER_06: I don't hogtie, but I don't know how to hog tie nobody.
24:32
SPEAKER_06: They're saying that's hogtie and these girls.
24:34
SPEAKER_06: I was like, oh, you got videos, bro.
24:36
SPEAKER_05: The thing about it is to separate the art from the person is I don't know why that's even hard.
24:42
SPEAKER_05: Like, yo, these are we don't know these people, like they're just yeah, they're actors, they're singers.
24:47
SPEAKER_06: We don't know what they do in their personal shit, but their character that's that's the thing that gets people it's like our founding fathers.
24:55
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, how do you separate that?
24:56
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, how long George Washington had like three slaves.
25:01
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but I mean that was the culture back then, but you also can't.
25:05
SPEAKER_06: I I say that's horrible, but you you're you live within the the look, look, look, I'll put it to you this way we all grew up watching adult content like porn and stuff like that, right?
25:15
SPEAKER_06: You know, that was our go-to when we couldn't get nothing, right?
25:18
SPEAKER_06: Or even now, it's you can't get nothing, that's your go-to.
25:21
SPEAKER_06: Shit, so that's a bad thing, right?
25:23
SPEAKER_06: According to certain people, you're gonna go to hell for that, but whatever, like it's just and you could judge, you could judge somebody for being like that if you get caught up in it or whatever, but it's just all part of the lifestyle.
25:37
SPEAKER_06: And look, they chose certain paths, right?
25:39
SPEAKER_06: Kells chose to sleep with young women and abuse women, whatever he was doing, hog tying them, whatever, and now he's paying the consequences.
25:48
SPEAKER_06: I don't think he regrets anything he did.
25:49
SPEAKER_06: He he was in denial up until the day that he got locked up, and if he ever gets out, he'll do the same thing again and probably get locked up again.
25:57
SPEAKER_06: I don't doubt it.
25:58
SPEAKER_06: I don't doubt it.
25:59
SPEAKER_05: So you think it's more like it's something in his head, like it's a sickness, like he just is what it is.
26:04
SPEAKER_06: Anyone who has these things, like, and it's not even like the the the attraction to younger women, right?
26:10
SPEAKER_06: Look, I I am I could say a young woman is pretty, it doesn't mean I want to have sex with her.
26:15
SPEAKER_06: These guys just want to, like all of them, like all these sicklos, they don't want to be able to have these girls.
26:20
SPEAKER_03: A lot of victims, too.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: They always exactly, yeah, it's never like these ones right now.
26:24
SPEAKER_06: Like I seen some of these Epstein girls, I was like, Wow, like I mean, look, no, no, no offense.
26:28
SPEAKER_06: They weren't like the most attractive young ladies, but then there were there was a range of them, but they just they just like the fact that they're young, and that's why they go for this shit.
26:35
SPEAKER_06: Our kel call Kells.
26:36
SPEAKER_06: I mean, he I don't know.
26:37
SPEAKER_06: Do you have yeah, there's a couple that weren't that, but look, I'm not here to judge them.
26:40
SPEAKER_06: Like, it's uh wrong regardless.
26:42
SPEAKER_06: So I just feel like he he would repeat offend if they ever got out.
26:46
SPEAKER_06: But I want them to get out so he can make a new album, so we could, you know, we could have you know step in the name of love part 19 and shit, like all types of trapped in the closet part 48.
26:57
SPEAKER_06: What's it wait?
26:58
SPEAKER_06: There was 48 parts already.
27:00
SPEAKER_05: Quick quick question Does why does Jay-Z never play in the um R.
27:04
SPEAKER_05: Kelly songs at his concerts?
27:06
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
27:06
SPEAKER_05: Why do you think?
27:09
SPEAKER_05: I mean they were hot though.
27:11
SPEAKER_05: He had some bangers.
27:18
SPEAKER_05: That album should have gone like eight times.
27:20
SPEAKER_05: My girl is at this party.
27:24
SPEAKER_05: That song is over.
27:27
SPEAKER_05: If if they would have torn, but they went back and did another one.
27:31
SPEAKER_05: It would have been just a smash.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they did two.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: He did one right after 2004, 2005, right?
27:38
SPEAKER_03: He did two with Kell, he did two with Kells and only did one with uh Kanye.
27:42
SPEAKER_03: That's a travesty.
27:43
SPEAKER_06: Well, Kanye kind of went a little crazier, but still, but R.
27:47
SPEAKER_03: K.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: He knew what was going on with R.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: Kelly back then.
27:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, come on, dude.
27:53
SPEAKER_03: And that was following a second.
27:54
SPEAKER_05: Like, yeah, that was his man's I think he did it.
27:58
SPEAKER_06: He married his man's girl to be a dick because uh you know, Dame, Dame didn't fuck with Kel.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: That's that's being quite the dick.
28:05
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean two albums.
28:09
SPEAKER_05: Pause, pause, yeah.
28:10
SPEAKER_06: No more Yankees.
28:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he he said he said uh yeah, he he didn't mess with none of those albums.
28:14
SPEAKER_06: That's why he wasn't in any of the videos.
28:17
SPEAKER_06: Dame.
28:18
SPEAKER_06: I believe him too.
28:20
SPEAKER_03: When they said the feds came out for uh Fiesta, Fiesta, the Feds came out on that on that uh that um music video uh video shoot, yeah.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: Second fiesta, yeah.
28:30
SPEAKER_03: That's when the FBI FBI came and they they uh they pulled him out and approached the word.
28:35
SPEAKER_06: You know what's wild how that song too though that that era that right after that trial, like Kell's popularity was almost he peaked around that era, like from 2000, 1600, 2002 to 2008.
28:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yo, and like yo, dog man, I'm a flirt.
28:53
SPEAKER_06: All those records, yo he had some records, man.
28:56
SPEAKER_05: Yo, honestly, ignition for me might be the best song in the last 25 years.
29:03
SPEAKER_05: That's not the kids.
29:04
SPEAKER_05: Damn goods, have fun with rolling that body, that it becomes a shit.
29:09
SPEAKER_05: You know, feeling on your booty, you didn't like that one.
29:11
SPEAKER_06: Feel it on your booty.
29:12
SPEAKER_06: That was like you said, yo, he has so many damn bangs.
29:16
SPEAKER_06: The trapped in the closet records, all that shit.
29:18
SPEAKER_06: He was just on this creative run that's a big thing.
29:21
SPEAKER_03: Ron Eisley.
29:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, the Isaac Brothers records.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we used to listen to that shirt all the time.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, honestly, you could put his brother cancer Stevie Wonder, oh, he wouldn't he wouldn't lose on uh uh versus he wouldn't lose on the I don't think he would lose.
29:40
SPEAKER_06: It would be an R.
29:40
SPEAKER_06: Kelly versus R.
29:41
SPEAKER_06: Kelly.
29:42
SPEAKER_06: It'll just be like he'd be just he'd go on both sides of the stage as well.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: As soon as we put, like you said, as soon as you play addition.
29:47
SPEAKER_03: Can it get a little uh fresh?
29:53
SPEAKER_03: Yo, he's just great.
29:53
SPEAKER_05: He's just great.
29:55
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna play any music on this film.
29:57
SPEAKER_05: He got some trouble.
29:58
SPEAKER_05: He's a troubled soul, but then again, no one's gonna say anything when Elvis dated um what's his name?
30:04
SPEAKER_05: Uh Marie Lisa Marie Presley's mom.
30:07
SPEAKER_05: Can't yeah, but he was saying nothing.
30:10
SPEAKER_06: And they also did not care back then.
30:12
SPEAKER_06: Back then, you could date a 14-year-old, they wouldn't say shit.
30:15
SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
30:16
SPEAKER_06: That was just normal.
30:17
SPEAKER_06: Yo, down low was Ron Eisler, right?
30:19
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
30:20
SPEAKER_06: No, even yo, his okay, what was that?
30:23
SPEAKER_06: No, his he's great.
30:25
SPEAKER_06: He's just yeah, yeah.
30:27
SPEAKER_06: Step in the name of love came out in like an 05 ignition remix, obviously.
30:31
SPEAKER_06: Damn.
30:32
SPEAKER_06: Um, but like my whole my whole thing, yo, my golden era of R.
30:36
SPEAKER_06: Kelly was 98 to 2000, where he did um You remind me of my G.
30:43
SPEAKER_06: No, that was 95.
30:44
SPEAKER_06: Sorry, yeah.
30:46
SPEAKER_06: That's all that's what I that that that yeah, that and a 12 play.
30:50
SPEAKER_06: 12 play with that was in 92 or 93.
30:54
unknown: Oh, yeah.
30:54
SPEAKER_06: Um, he got like a 40 year one.
30:57
SPEAKER_06: Yo, yo, for real, yo.
30:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
31:01
SPEAKER_06: I wish uh TP2.
31:03
SPEAKER_06: That was that was 99.
31:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, 98, but then 98, he was a little bit more than a lot of people.
31:07
SPEAKER_06: He released like three double albums, right?
31:09
SPEAKER_06: Didn't he release like three double albums that were all fucking the Chocolate Factory, yeah?
31:14
SPEAKER_06: Chocolate factory was crazy.
31:15
SPEAKER_03: The R.
31:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: How many albums has he sold?
31:18
SPEAKER_03: Let me see.
31:19
SPEAKER_03: A lot.
31:19
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but the big thing when like I lost track, I stopped listening to him.
31:23
SPEAKER_06: Like, on I mean, I listened to the old stuff, but his newer stuff, because he's dropping sporadically.
31:28
SPEAKER_06: 2015 he put out.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: It's crazy.
31:32
SPEAKER_06: That song, Backyard Party and Trumpets that with Juicy J.
31:36
SPEAKER_06: I don't know if you ever heard though.
31:37
SPEAKER_06: Listen to Backyard Party, yo.
31:39
SPEAKER_06: That reminds that this is what he's like in his like RB gospel slash whatever type of vibes, yo.
31:48
SPEAKER_06: And he was making these records just talking about sex, but making it sound like a gospel song, yo.
31:52
SPEAKER_06: It was crazy.
31:54
SPEAKER_06: And it was just like a happy, like, yo, I'll send you like backyard party was my shit.
31:58
SPEAKER_06: It was you just talking about barbecuing and shit and drinking.
32:01
SPEAKER_05: And didn't he do a song when he was doing like doo-wop songs?
32:05
SPEAKER_06: Yo, he's whatever.
32:07
SPEAKER_06: And he sang, yo, you ever hear him?
32:09
SPEAKER_03: Wow, the two number one hits her, but on a on the Billboard 100, bumping grind, and I'm your angel.
32:14
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't have I wouldn't have.
32:15
SPEAKER_05: He only had two of the number ones.
32:16
SPEAKER_05: What about I believe I could fly?
32:18
SPEAKER_05: That didn't make number one.
32:18
SPEAKER_05: Well, then that's right.
32:20
SPEAKER_06: But he wrote, he wrote a lot of number ones.
32:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
32:22
SPEAKER_06: Oh, he wrote a lot.
32:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
32:25
SPEAKER_06: But I told you all this last week that the the him as in the culture was very impactful.
32:32
SPEAKER_06: But as far as a pop artist, he was he only had a few records that four number one hits.
32:39
SPEAKER_03: Hold on, ignition remix is a number one single.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
32:47
SPEAKER_06: It sure ain't.
32:56
SPEAKER_06: I hope you get free.
32:58
SPEAKER_06: I hope you get free.
32:59
SPEAKER_06: That's just me talking to shit.
33:01
SPEAKER_06: I like okay.
33:02
SPEAKER_06: So now let's talk about other things.
33:04
SPEAKER_06: Um you want to keep the music, you want to switch to sports.
33:07
SPEAKER_06: I mean, Dame.
33:07
SPEAKER_06: Okay, let's talk, let's talk Jay-Z concert.
33:09
SPEAKER_03: Dame Dash that video, wa was had Dave Dash in the audience.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: That was cute.
33:15
SPEAKER_03: But that was crazy.
33:17
SPEAKER_05: They locked him up and he started fighting them.
33:19
SPEAKER_06: Uh oh, yeah, with the with the concert.
33:21
SPEAKER_05: So here's the thing.
33:23
SPEAKER_05: So we got a couple, my little brother went, and one of our good buddies went to the concert, a reasonable doubt night.
33:28
SPEAKER_05: Um, one buddy said that it was he actually, and he's a he's kind of he's a really tough critic, our buddy.
33:35
SPEAKER_03: He's like he's like the he's like he said he didn't really focus on the music, or he didn't really focus on reasonable doubt.
33:41
SPEAKER_03: You talk about yeah, wait, which night did he go to, though?
33:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, first.
33:45
SPEAKER_03: Reasonable doubt night.
33:47
SPEAKER_06: They performed the whole album, though, right?
33:48
SPEAKER_06: I thought they performed.
33:49
SPEAKER_03: But he said he know he kind of focused on other songs, or it wasn't just focused on the case.
33:53
SPEAKER_05: He wasn't super impressed with it.
33:55
SPEAKER_05: Now he's a tough critic.
33:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna lie, he's a tough critic, but he said he just wasn't super impressed with it.
34:00
SPEAKER_05: But I think nights two and three were much better, if that makes sense, right?
34:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah, I think so.
34:06
SPEAKER_03: I think two well, two for sure.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: Three with starting at midnight.
34:09
SPEAKER_03: No, yeah, like three didn't even at 2 45 a.m.
34:12
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, come on, bro.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: They had the one shorty when her mic lost, her she, you know, she was offbeat on the mic.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: Uh oh Tiana Taylor, Sarah, yeah, yeah.
34:20
SPEAKER_03: Because they had Beyonce night too.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: You go from yeah, you know, her mic ain't gonna be off.
34:25
SPEAKER_03: Tiana Taylor shit was hell no.
34:28
SPEAKER_04: Thinking of the time, yeah.
34:31
SPEAKER_03: She was she was way off on her shit.
34:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: They said that her uh her airbutt, her they said her earbuds were like not working right.
34:39
SPEAKER_03: Could you imagine what's the other thing?
34:39
SPEAKER_03: What's your take on the show?
34:41
SPEAKER_05: What's your take on Tiana Taylor?
34:42
SPEAKER_05: Are you a fan or do you think she's being she the actress joint, right?
34:47
SPEAKER_05: Right, yeah, yeah.
34:48
SPEAKER_05: She did.
34:48
SPEAKER_05: She yeah, yeah.
34:50
SPEAKER_03: I didn't like the movie.
34:50
SPEAKER_03: I didn't like the movie.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: She was I mean, I didn't think that movie, that military movie.
34:54
SPEAKER_05: I didn't think the one with Matt, the one with the um um what's his name?
34:58
SPEAKER_05: Leonardo DiCaprio.
35:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yo, I didn't think it was all that neither Marvel.
35:03
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, Yeah, yeah, like Yeah, I didn't know the critics, certain critics.
35:08
SPEAKER_05: I listen I listened to this one podcast called um the re um The Big Picture on the Ringer, and they're like, Oh my god, it's the movie of the decade.
35:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was up for all these awards, yeah.
35:19
SPEAKER_05: I never even saw uh you know something was it once upon a time in America or something, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:25
SPEAKER_05: Hey, yo, the critic, once the critics get behind something, yo, they'll just put it.
35:28
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
35:29
SPEAKER_05: That's like that thing we have sent to you today about the Odyssey getting 99 on Rotten Tomatoes.
35:34
SPEAKER_05: Like I haven't, it's uh releases tomorrow, right?
35:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you going?
35:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, I'm gonna go check it out.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm gonna check.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, I'm doing an IMAX joint.
35:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna do an IMAX joint.
35:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
35:44
SPEAKER_03: I like I like those type of movies.
35:45
SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, it's like a gladiator type.
35:48
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
35:48
SPEAKER_05: Now it's three hours long, so I might sleep through like a half of it.
35:51
SPEAKER_05: I know.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: I wake up it's three hours.
35:53
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, I'm definitely falling asleep.
35:56
SPEAKER_06: Lupita Niangos in it, yeah, yeah.
35:58
SPEAKER_05: And people are upset because, of course, this is a this is uh uh what is it, uh a Greek tale, and of course, she's African, right?
36:06
SPEAKER_05: She's actually Mexican, but still.
36:08
SPEAKER_06: There's Greeks and Af.
36:09
SPEAKER_06: I mean, there's Africans in Greece, sure, sure.
36:12
SPEAKER_06: I agree.
36:13
SPEAKER_06: And she's a beautiful woman.
36:14
SPEAKER_06: I it's weird, like from and I don't want to like objectify women in this moment, but well, it sounds like you already are, but go on.
36:22
SPEAKER_06: Um, I I don't want to, but I am.
36:24
SPEAKER_06: So is does her beauty appeal to you?
36:29
SPEAKER_06: Like if you were to date, would you would you date her?
36:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she wanted to beautiful, her skin is incredible.
36:37
SPEAKER_05: Um she's hot, she's beautiful.
36:41
SPEAKER_03: Hold on, what's what hold on?
36:43
SPEAKER_03: Let me see.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: Which I'm trying to wanna.
36:45
SPEAKER_05: She was in Black Panther.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: Oh, the one from Us?
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:52
SPEAKER_06: Don't use don't use her picture, her her likeness in us.
36:56
SPEAKER_06: She looked a mess in that movie.
36:57
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
36:58
SPEAKER_06: She got nice skin though.
37:00
SPEAKER_06: If you into that dark, I am in the like uh there's a lot of darker women that are very beautiful.
37:04
SPEAKER_06: Uh, I think she's a good-looking woman.
37:06
SPEAKER_06: Is she like as far as African women that I've seen?
37:09
SPEAKER_06: Um, I think she ranks because of her fame pretty high, but I think I've seen better.
37:16
SPEAKER_06: But also, if I was, you know, if I was in the field and she was available, I'd take I'd take a swing at it.
37:24
SPEAKER_06: Where to go where to go on a limb, lady with Hollywood actress.
37:27
SPEAKER_05: Where to go on the limbs?
37:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
37:30
SPEAKER_03: I'd talk to her.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I at least she's nice, yeah.
37:35
SPEAKER_06: Nice lady.
37:36
SPEAKER_06: She alright.
37:37
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying like this from a general standpoint, but whatever.
37:40
SPEAKER_03: Did you watch the cheap cheap the cheap teeth video?
37:43
SPEAKER_03: Dave, cheap teeth, cheap teeth.
37:46
SPEAKER_06: Who thinks is your OG?
37:48
SPEAKER_06: So okay, so wait, wait, the the the we took a real crazy tangent there.
37:53
SPEAKER_06: But the um so the J concert, I heard people was waiting outside the third night.
37:59
SPEAKER_06: Uh, I heard that it was crazy.
38:00
SPEAKER_06: They the security was kind of messed up and it didn't start till like 11 p.m.
38:04
SPEAKER_06: almost.
38:05
SPEAKER_06: Like a thousand people snuck in or something, or ten thousand.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: I don't even know.
38:08
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, is then they homeboys in.
38:10
SPEAKER_03: They they they started at midnight.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh, they did?
38:13
SPEAKER_03: Is that the way they did it?
38:14
SPEAKER_05: They didn't get home till I think three o'clock, right?
38:16
SPEAKER_03: Like that was see now.
38:18
SPEAKER_03: This is why some shit like that happened.
38:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, no offense to Hove.
38:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh listen, all time great.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: I would go home.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: I would go home.
38:25
SPEAKER_05: I would have been home.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I would have been home.
38:27
SPEAKER_05: You got to about 1231, and then that's it.
38:30
SPEAKER_05: Maybe they're telling you to be there early.
38:32
SPEAKER_06: That's what's crazy about these things, especially like on a right.
38:35
SPEAKER_06: It's it's not like a baseball game where they can just file people in real quick.
38:38
SPEAKER_06: This is like you filled out the whole stadium, you knew that.
38:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and they had uh people on the field.
38:45
SPEAKER_06: So, and you have to read all those were VIP.
38:48
SPEAKER_06: There's VIPs in the house, there's all types of shit.
38:50
SPEAKER_06: It's like the Super Bowl.
38:50
SPEAKER_06: You gotta make sure everything's tight.
38:52
SPEAKER_06: They didn't do that the third night.
38:53
SPEAKER_06: The rest of the nights, I heard, went pretty smooth, right?
38:55
SPEAKER_06: For the most part.
38:56
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so yeah, that's what I heard.
38:57
SPEAKER_06: But I think like the clips I'm seeing of some of these performances, like Jay.
39:02
SPEAKER_06: I've only seen Jay in live one time in my life, and that was back in '96 at a at a club in Southampton with him and Foxy Brown performing Ain't No Nigga.
39:12
SPEAKER_06: And and it was them the two on stage, no security, in this, like the only nightclub on Long Island, New York, in the Long Island, New York.
39:19
SPEAKER_06: Nothing crazy.
39:20
SPEAKER_06: And this is before he was famous, right?
39:22
SPEAKER_06: And you know, I see these things in concert.
39:26
SPEAKER_06: I feel like Jay performed better when he had Dame and all those characters around him.
39:34
SPEAKER_06: Like his performances were more outstanding in a sense.
39:37
SPEAKER_06: Him on stage alone, yeah, is cool because yes, we know every word to every fucking song.
39:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, hit, but right.
39:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but this concert, from what I saw, the stage was way too big for him just to stand there and be jail.
39:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, to me, yeah as I watch these clips.
39:53
SPEAKER_06: The freestyle that he did hit hard, harder than the the picnic one that that that for some reason Rolling Stone says one of the top 10 songs of the year makes no fucking.
40:02
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Rolling Stone.
40:03
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's fucking dumb, yo.
40:05
SPEAKER_06: Um it's like them these motherfuckers handing out awards to Kendrick Lamar and all that other bullshit.
40:09
SPEAKER_06: Like, it's dumb.
40:10
SPEAKER_06: But his whole yeah, that that was cool.
40:14
SPEAKER_06: Um, everything else was well.
40:16
SPEAKER_06: I wish they had more of the uh I wish like Ja Rule came out or and they did Can I Get a Ja Rule?
40:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, cut Murdergram.
40:27
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I know DMX is dead or something, but did a tribute maybe to X.
40:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
40:32
SPEAKER_06: He brought out Jada and Fat Joe, like Fat Joe.
40:35
unknown: Come on.
40:36
SPEAKER_06: Fat Joe, it's clout chasing, yo.
40:39
SPEAKER_03: I bet you he begged to be on a jail.
40:41
SPEAKER_06: Come on.
40:41
SPEAKER_03: Fat who who who who bigger clout chaser, fat Joe or Khaled?
40:45
SPEAKER_03: Both.
40:47
SPEAKER_03: I like Joe more.
40:50
SPEAKER_06: I like Joey, yeah.
40:51
SPEAKER_06: I don't Khaled.
40:52
SPEAKER_06: Khaled's he's like corny.
40:55
SPEAKER_06: How does he make money?
40:57
SPEAKER_05: I don't understand how he makes it.
40:59
SPEAKER_03: No, and he and he be I mean flossing.
41:01
SPEAKER_03: He be flossing.
41:04
SPEAKER_05: He definitely got some cash.
41:05
SPEAKER_06: Does he own he must own some publishing or something?
41:09
SPEAKER_06: I think he has some businesses that you know, low-key are like making bread.
41:13
SPEAKER_06: You know, like DJ Envy's like probably worth a hundred million dollars.
41:17
SPEAKER_06: He owns a bunch of different businesses, right?
41:19
SPEAKER_06: Or invested in a bunch of different things.
41:21
SPEAKER_06: These guys are well.
41:22
SPEAKER_06: Oh, his boy didn't his he didn't have to pay no restitution.
41:25
SPEAKER_06: He's a scammer, by the way.
41:26
SPEAKER_06: Indian scammer.
41:27
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
41:28
SPEAKER_06: Well, I mean, besides that, I mean, he's he's he's been good at investing over time.
41:33
SPEAKER_06: I I'm impressed by his portfolio.
41:35
SPEAKER_03: But uh, yeah, Khaled, I I look at him and never but Khaled, but Khaled got like Khaled got like 50, 60 million dollar mansions, like he got like phantoms driving.
41:47
SPEAKER_03: No, his watch collection, yeah, crazy.
41:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, people like the the thing about it, people do like they do like Khaled.
41:54
SPEAKER_05: So he must not be that he comes off annoying to us, but but where'd he get his money from though?
42:00
SPEAKER_05: I mean I don't know.
42:02
SPEAKER_05: It can't be off.
42:03
SPEAKER_06: I mean, the records are cool, yeah.
42:05
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I guess it can't be a lot off of the records.
42:07
SPEAKER_06: Really?
42:08
SPEAKER_06: That much off of the records?
42:09
SPEAKER_06: No, so the checks come in very quick.
42:12
SPEAKER_06: So, dude, I saw this we the best.
42:14
SPEAKER_06: This is Instagram page I follow where they kind of break down the residuals of a record.
42:18
SPEAKER_06: He don't perform though, he don't perform, yeah.
42:20
SPEAKER_06: But he's producer, producer gets 50%.
42:23
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, still today in his streaming.
42:26
SPEAKER_03: Can he can he actually be with can he be living like he be living like the way he's living?
42:30
SPEAKER_06: He puts the albums out with the gets a point.
42:32
SPEAKER_06: But no, that's part of it.
42:33
SPEAKER_06: But I also feel like I said, he has probably has businesses in Florida and around the globe or whatever.
42:39
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
42:40
SPEAKER_06: You know, he's been in the game for a minute, you know.
42:42
SPEAKER_06: Somebody put something in front of him, like Rick Ross.
42:45
SPEAKER_06: Like, look, for everything you can say about Rick Ross, he has a whole bunch of them Wingstops, man.
42:49
SPEAKER_06: Wingstop make money.
42:51
SPEAKER_05: So we got a new album coming out too, Friday.
42:53
SPEAKER_05: I thought it was out already.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: I thought it was out too.
42:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh I looked, I don't think I think they might have pushed it because uh I did look on uh past Friday and it wasn't out.
43:03
SPEAKER_06: Then that first record ain't streaming very well.
43:06
SPEAKER_06: Shout out to that man.
43:07
SPEAKER_06: So okay, so the whole show, I guess the consensus is we wish we were there, but not really.
43:12
SPEAKER_05: I wish it was different.
43:15
SPEAKER_05: Well, I damn sure one might know 345, but I think it was for reasonable doubt night, would have been a lot for people like us who grew up in the 90s, who you know.
43:25
SPEAKER_05: Now I I mean it did look fun though.
43:29
SPEAKER_05: It looked fun, it looked like people had a good time.
43:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it looked yeah, it looked like it was a good time.
43:34
SPEAKER_05: And whole to do three nights in a row at 55 or however old he is, like that shit takes a lot of stamina, man.
43:41
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
43:42
SPEAKER_05: A lot of stamina.
43:43
SPEAKER_06: He just walked around the stage.
43:44
SPEAKER_06: He looked, he looked, I could do that.
43:47
SPEAKER_06: Anybody could do that 55.
43:50
SPEAKER_06: Yo, these motherfucking old rock bands are still performing and shit.
43:53
SPEAKER_06: Come on, man, ain't that hard stamina?
43:54
SPEAKER_06: Matter of fact, holding up that microphone.
43:57
SPEAKER_06: It wasn't like he was holding up a guitar.
44:00
SPEAKER_06: Or fucking, you know what I mean?
44:02
SPEAKER_05: You're talking about he was performing songs he hasn't performed in 2015.
44:06
SPEAKER_06: Air Force Ones that probably had some orthopedic insoles in them.
44:09
SPEAKER_06: Like he's chilling.
44:10
SPEAKER_06: Yo, Jazz O.
44:11
SPEAKER_03: Jazz O came out.
44:14
SPEAKER_05: That was dope.
44:14
SPEAKER_05: That was dope.
44:15
SPEAKER_05: Jazz O man.
44:16
SPEAKER_05: Shout out to Jazz.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: Why he ain't bring Dam out?
44:18
SPEAKER_03: He why he bring Dame out, man?
44:19
SPEAKER_03: Yo, man.
44:20
SPEAKER_06: Damn talking too crazy.
44:21
SPEAKER_06: I think I think he was considering it until the cinnamon doo doo breath.
44:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
44:25
SPEAKER_06: The cinnamon doo-doo thing is probably the thing that crossed the line.
44:28
SPEAKER_05: He was probably honestly hope.
44:30
SPEAKER_05: Probably was.
44:32
SPEAKER_06: Yo, that shit was so funny.
44:33
SPEAKER_06: So I still got it.
44:36
SPEAKER_05: Well, he be dancing, yo.
44:38
SPEAKER_06: My man still got it.
44:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
44:40
SPEAKER_05: Yo, honestly, if if if Dame called Hove today and apologized, Hove probably would be like, all right, yo, let's let's let's get dinner or something.
44:50
SPEAKER_05: Like, I I think I think he's to that point where he's like, but Dame just won't bend, man.
44:56
SPEAKER_05: He just simply won't bend.
44:58
SPEAKER_05: It's just not in him.
44:59
SPEAKER_05: Cinnamon doo-doo.
45:00
SPEAKER_06: Cinnamon doo-doo.
45:01
SPEAKER_06: And speaking of cinnamon doo-doo, let's let's keep it moving.
45:04
SPEAKER_06: Let's let's all right.
45:05
SPEAKER_06: I don't think we need to talk about Dave.
45:06
SPEAKER_06: I think we covered everything right there.
45:08
SPEAKER_06: I don't really want to get too much into his.
45:10
SPEAKER_06: It's like we're making fun of him at this point.
45:13
SPEAKER_06: It's not like you know, he rules the internet, yo.
45:16
SPEAKER_06: Shout out to Dave.
45:16
SPEAKER_06: Shout out to him.
45:17
SPEAKER_06: Shout out to Dame.
45:18
SPEAKER_06: So let's move into sports.
45:19
SPEAKER_06: And since WNBA is the only thing going on, there's a couple of things.
45:22
SPEAKER_06: Look, look, your girls.
45:22
SPEAKER_05: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
45:23
SPEAKER_05: The World Cup.
45:24
SPEAKER_05: Did you watch the game today?
45:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I did.
45:26
SPEAKER_03: I did.
45:27
SPEAKER_03: I did not.
45:28
SPEAKER_03: Argentina.
45:29
SPEAKER_03: Argentina went strikes again.
45:31
SPEAKER_03: They the last the last 10 minutes, they score two.
45:35
SPEAKER_05: How do you give up two goals in five minutes?
45:37
SPEAKER_05: Like cool one.
45:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:38
SPEAKER_05: I think it's rigged.
45:40
SPEAKER_05: But whatever.
45:41
SPEAKER_05: Here we go.
45:41
SPEAKER_05: It's presented by fan doing draftings.
45:45
SPEAKER_06: Maybe.
45:48
SPEAKER_06: Oh no, man.
45:49
SPEAKER_05: But anyway, talking about Eve.
45:51
SPEAKER_05: So we're talking about.
45:52
SPEAKER_05: Oh, so speaking of WNBA, um the legend, Kirby Mato Jabbar said something about Caitlin.
45:58
SPEAKER_06: I just yeah.
46:00
SPEAKER_06: Wait, wait, let's let's let's let's take a step back first.
46:02
SPEAKER_06: I want to talk about the Caitlin Clark problem and then his comments.
46:06
SPEAKER_06: So you saw the flop, right?
46:08
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I made it I uh I saw it and I made a video, put it on our podcast page yesterday.
46:12
SPEAKER_06: It's actually the our best performing post ever, which is interesting.
46:17
SPEAKER_06: Almost well, it's 6,000.
46:18
SPEAKER_06: Let me see, let me see.
46:19
SPEAKER_06: Run it, run it again.
46:20
SPEAKER_06: Oh, you didn't watch this yet?
46:21
SPEAKER_06: All right, I'll run it.
46:22
SPEAKER_06: I'll run it.
46:23
SPEAKER_06: All right, here we go.
46:24
SPEAKER_06: Witnessed one of the most egregious flopping situations in basketball history.
46:31
SPEAKER_06: I'm talking NBA, WNBA, AAU, PW League, freaking high school hoops, whatever.
46:40
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
46:41
SPEAKER_05: Oh, oh, they should oh, oh, look, oh my neck in my look at pain travel.
46:51
SPEAKER_06: Let's bring that back.
46:52
SPEAKER_06: Let's bring that back.
46:52
SPEAKER_06: I do look at that defense.
46:55
SPEAKER_06: Look at that defense.
46:56
SPEAKER_06: She touches the girl when she's throwing up the law.
46:59
SPEAKER_06: She went to Allah.
47:00
SPEAKER_03: Look at that.
47:00
SPEAKER_03: Look, hold on.
47:01
SPEAKER_06: She didn't.
47:02
SPEAKER_06: I saw so people in the comments.
47:04
SPEAKER_06: I'll go we'll go through the comments real quick because TikTok and Instagram both have a ton of comments.
47:09
SPEAKER_06: Like people are just arguing.
47:11
SPEAKER_06: The Caitlyn people, the CC people, you see, CC.
47:16
SPEAKER_06: They're over there like, oh, she probably had a back spasm.
47:18
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, dog.
47:19
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: She did have.
47:21
SPEAKER_03: Let's just pretend she had a backspasm.
47:23
SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
47:23
SPEAKER_03: Let's pretend she had a back spasm.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: Did she look and see if the shot was made prior to her falling back with the sea?
47:28
SPEAKER_04: And then and then after she fell back, you know.
47:31
SPEAKER_06: So most people would limp it off, walk it off.
47:33
SPEAKER_06: What did she do?
47:34
SPEAKER_06: She got right back up and ran to the ref, bitching and moaning.
47:37
SPEAKER_06: I didn't stand anybody.
47:38
SPEAKER_06: I didn't Caitlin Clark.
47:39
SPEAKER_06: Like, get the fuck.
47:40
SPEAKER_06: Come on.
47:40
SPEAKER_06: She was praying.
47:41
SPEAKER_06: She was praying at the pause.
47:43
SPEAKER_06: She was praying.
47:43
SPEAKER_03: Look at her play.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: Look at her play.
47:45
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
47:46
SPEAKER_03: She's like, she's like Aliyak Bar, Aliak's bar.
47:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, this is the thing is who braces themselves for a fall?
47:52
SPEAKER_06: Oh, you have a backstab.
47:55
SPEAKER_06: You you fall down.
47:56
SPEAKER_06: Like, you're not gonna put both hands and then go like that.
47:58
SPEAKER_06: Look at that shit.
47:59
SPEAKER_06: Oh she said, oh look, look, look, oh, oh, that look at that defense.
48:03
SPEAKER_06: Oh, the minute that whistle blew, the minute she heard that late whistle, she got on her knees and said, I'm hurt.
48:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
48:11
SPEAKER_06: Come on.
48:12
SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's good D.
48:13
SPEAKER_06: That's a good D.
48:14
SPEAKER_06: Wait a minute.
48:14
SPEAKER_06: Wait a minute.
48:14
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
48:15
SPEAKER_06: So wait, wait, wait, wait.
48:17
SPEAKER_06: Look, I've always got to be.
48:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm not gonna.
48:18
SPEAKER_06: My commentary is irrelevant at this point.
48:21
SPEAKER_05: SGA is considered two-time MVP, world champion, incredible player, all-time great.
48:28
SPEAKER_05: He flops on a lot of his shots, too.
48:30
SPEAKER_05: Flopping is part of basketball, okay?
48:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but there's I could I could I could pull up some LeBron clips and you'd be like, no, no.
48:37
SPEAKER_05: Okay, wait, wait, but this is the fucking problem.
48:38
SPEAKER_06: Jordan flopped, everybody flopped, but certainly people flops.
48:42
SPEAKER_06: But okay, so your criticism of LeBron, like I do this with Marble all the time.
48:46
SPEAKER_06: We fight.
48:48
SPEAKER_03: He was she was flopping on defense, which is kind of different.
48:51
SPEAKER_03: That's fair.
48:52
SPEAKER_06: It's all the same fucking thing.
48:54
SPEAKER_03: But no, she was flopping down.
48:56
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to give LeBron flopping ass a little bit of credit because he be flopping most in NBA past 20 years.
49:02
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because he played for 23, four years, whatever.
49:06
SPEAKER_06: What I'm talking about right now, we're talking about somebody who's about to cross the flop record and only been in a professional league for two, three years.
49:12
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
49:13
SPEAKER_06: This girl, there's a there's a highlight reel of 9,000 flops from her from college to now.
49:18
SPEAKER_06: Like she's she's notorious.
49:20
SPEAKER_06: It's like that's what they coach her on how to shoot from the logo and fucking flop.
49:23
SPEAKER_06: That's all she does.
49:24
SPEAKER_05: CC, she's not she's not a great defender.
49:28
SPEAKER_05: Um, so flopping for her is almost like that's her deep survival.
49:33
SPEAKER_05: You know?
49:34
SPEAKER_06: Hey, hey man.
49:35
SPEAKER_06: Last week, I look, I and I've commended her.
49:37
SPEAKER_06: I said this all the time.
49:38
SPEAKER_06: I like the fact you're a great athlete.
49:40
SPEAKER_06: You can pass the ball, you can hit the shot.
49:43
SPEAKER_06: But otherwise, like there's better players, and people just don't understand that.
49:47
SPEAKER_06: And um I I I could go into the uh comments because remember, I don't think we brought this up last week, but the whole fact that the government sent out a petition, a bunch of Congress people signed talking about leave Caitlin Clark alone because of that play that happened with a girl.
50:05
SPEAKER_06: The girl fell on top of her.
50:07
SPEAKER_06: And if you look, somebody made an AI video that a bunch of idiots fell for where it shows her punching her throat, right?
50:15
SPEAKER_06: That never happened.
50:17
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, none of that happened.
50:19
SPEAKER_03: If you look at the real video, where's her other friend, the Cunningham, the point point one?
50:25
SPEAKER_06: Oh, that bitch.
50:26
SPEAKER_06: I respect her hustle.
50:27
SPEAKER_06: We'll talk about her in a second.
50:29
SPEAKER_06: She got it, she got something.
50:30
SPEAKER_06: But um, no, this whole situation has drawn out people, uh, like Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
50:37
SPEAKER_06: You know, his criticism, he has the same types of criticism about LeBron that he would have of Caitlin Clark and stuff.
50:41
SPEAKER_06: But I think him, you know, since LeBron passed him and scoring and shit, he's totally on board.
50:46
SPEAKER_06: But with Caitlin, he's like, yo, how are they gonna make her the face of the league when there are clearly better players that support the league better?
50:53
SPEAKER_06: Like Paige Back.
50:55
SPEAKER_06: Can I interject?
50:56
SPEAKER_05: Interject.
50:56
SPEAKER_05: It's your platform.
50:57
SPEAKER_05: Let me interject.
50:58
SPEAKER_05: First of all, let me let's let's talk, let's talk about the great Lou Al Cinder, aka Karim Al Gujabar.
51:05
SPEAKER_05: Now his resume, and when you put his resume up, is actually the best basketball player in history.
51:12
SPEAKER_05: The reason why he's not is because he's a knit.
51:15
SPEAKER_05: Okay?
51:17
SPEAKER_05: He's always been annoying, he's always been condescending, and he's never been fan friendly.
51:23
SPEAKER_05: Okay now that's what he's doing now.
51:26
SPEAKER_05: Caitlin, none of us have said Caitlin's the greatest player in the world.
51:30
SPEAKER_05: It's not about that.
51:32
SPEAKER_05: She is the most important player in the world, though.
51:34
SPEAKER_05: What she has a whole league on her back.
51:38
SPEAKER_05: She has created millionaires out of people that was getting$30,000.
51:42
SPEAKER_05: People, we're talking about 30 millionaires.
51:44
SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, pause, pause.
51:46
SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry to cut you off.
51:47
SPEAKER_06: But you know who created Caitlin Clark?
51:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm sorry.
51:49
SPEAKER_06: That's why I apologize.
51:51
SPEAKER_06: But you know who created her?
51:54
SPEAKER_05: What do you mean who created Caitlin Clark?
51:56
SPEAKER_06: Who created Caitlin Clark, right?
51:57
SPEAKER_05: Her hard work and dedication.
51:59
SPEAKER_06: No.
52:00
SPEAKER_06: Angel Reese.
52:01
SPEAKER_06: When she did this, when she did this after she beat Caitlin for a national champ, but to go to the national championship.
52:08
SPEAKER_06: I don't think it was the finals game, whatever.
52:10
SPEAKER_06: She beat her, and then all the crackers start to be like, Hey, you don't do that to white people, and then it became a race war from there.
52:16
SPEAKER_03: For the last three years, we've been in this so do you think that do you think Kanye made uh Taylor Swift famous?
52:22
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
52:24
SPEAKER_03: Whoa! Wow.
52:25
SPEAKER_06: I think that black people started to pay attention to Taylor's.
52:28
SPEAKER_06: I didn't know who the fuck Taylor Swift was until Kanye.
52:31
SPEAKER_06: And then she came out with that 1999 album.
52:33
SPEAKER_06: I was bumping.
52:33
SPEAKER_06: There was some joints on there.
52:34
SPEAKER_06: I wouldn't have listened to that shit otherwise.
52:37
SPEAKER_06: Dog, come on.
52:39
SPEAKER_06: There's this this yo.
52:40
SPEAKER_05: I mean no, he no, you heard him say right.
52:42
SPEAKER_05: I never heard her before that that that Kanye ugly.
52:46
SPEAKER_06: But Angel Reese, who legitimately neither one look, I'll give him I'll say this nobody knew who the fuck either one of them was at that point.
52:55
SPEAKER_06: No, we knew well, I knew I knew Angel Reese was because she's from Ghost.
53:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's lovely.
53:00
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, Baltimore.
53:01
SPEAKER_06: But I was watching these games.
53:03
SPEAKER_06: I knew of both of them because I I watched I like women's college basketball more than men's.
53:07
SPEAKER_06: I don't know why, but I knew who Caitlin Clark was, and I who and I remember reading about her about to break the scoring record that Kelsey Plum, who arguably is the better player, um, had.
53:18
SPEAKER_06: And then yeah, she is.
53:19
SPEAKER_03: But Tarazi, Tarazzi is better than all of them.
53:21
SPEAKER_03: I'm about to say, I think there's a lot of praise better than CC.
53:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she's the most important player.
53:27
SPEAKER_06: How was that?
53:28
SPEAKER_06: What do you mean?
53:28
SPEAKER_06: I mean, as far as yes, bringing the league to light, I give her I give her that, but she's not holding the torch well.
53:36
SPEAKER_06: Doug, no, you know why?
53:37
SPEAKER_06: Because I'm sorry.
53:41
SPEAKER_05: Well, she she's not holding the torch well because A, the WNBA is the worst ran franchise ever.
53:46
SPEAKER_05: Why would you not protect this person who is literally carrying an entire industry on her back?
53:53
SPEAKER_05: She has a bad attitude.
53:54
SPEAKER_06: Who does uh um her?
53:57
SPEAKER_06: Cece?
53:57
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she has a bad attitude.
54:01
SPEAKER_06: Look, she has a bad, she cries all the time.
54:04
SPEAKER_06: She doesn't, she doesn't like every time you see her in these games, bro.
54:07
SPEAKER_06: She looks like the a cat, like literally a Karen.
54:10
SPEAKER_03: Her name should be Karen Clark, not she didn't be beefing with her uh coach and stuff.
54:13
SPEAKER_03: I'd be seeing she's beefing with coaches.
54:16
SPEAKER_03: She she her But I do think they hate on her.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: I do think they hate on her.
54:19
SPEAKER_05: Oh, they do no because she's a pair of agenda against her.
54:22
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no.
54:22
SPEAKER_06: The the players hate her because she cries all the time about shit.
54:25
SPEAKER_06: It's a rough game.
54:26
SPEAKER_06: There's a this girl.
54:27
SPEAKER_06: I watch these girls are rougher than the NBA dudes, to be honest with you.
54:30
SPEAKER_06: They don't call a lot of fouls.
54:31
SPEAKER_06: All a lot of them are playing about now.
54:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they are way more fit.
54:34
SPEAKER_06: They'll be grabbing each other's titties, smacking each other in the face, all types of crazy shit.
54:38
SPEAKER_06: Pulling hair, they be pulling hair.
54:40
SPEAKER_06: I see some dreadlocks and shit.
54:42
SPEAKER_06: Yo, they be just knocking them out.
54:44
SPEAKER_06: And and it's a very physical game, yes, but they also are like she she should have been prepared for that.
54:50
SPEAKER_06: But she's crying and whining, falling on the ground all the time.
54:52
SPEAKER_06: And then now they got the young they got them big brolic lesbian chicks like on her, the bitches with the tattoos and shit.
54:58
SPEAKER_06: They just on her.
54:59
SPEAKER_06: There's like boom, elbow to the face, all that shit.
55:01
SPEAKER_06: She getting it.
55:02
SPEAKER_06: Well, Cunningham is her enforcer.
55:03
SPEAKER_06: Kate Cunningham's her enforcer.
55:05
SPEAKER_06: That chick is just we can talk about her in exactly two minutes because this is almost over.
55:09
SPEAKER_06: This this conversation.
55:10
SPEAKER_06: All I'm saying is, I just I just I just I just I I I don't understand.
55:15
SPEAKER_05: First of all, WNBA's ran terribly.
55:17
SPEAKER_05: Uh she Caitlin Clark has elevated this league that we're talking about at three guys are talking about WNBA in July 15, less than 30 days away from NFL, right?
55:30
SPEAKER_05: And we're supposed to be all macho and shit.
55:31
SPEAKER_05: We're talking about WNBA because this is all because of CC.
55:35
SPEAKER_05: CC she has made this league hundreds of millions of dollars.
55:39
SPEAKER_05: They're on TV, they're actually one of the biggest social media stories.
55:44
SPEAKER_05: Why would you not protect that?
55:45
SPEAKER_06: Why would you not protect that?
55:47
SPEAKER_06: They don't need that protection at this point.
55:49
SPEAKER_06: Like, there's other people who attract fans now.
55:51
SPEAKER_06: Angel Reese attracts fans.
55:53
SPEAKER_06: Who's the the the FUD girl and the Paige Beckers in Dallas?
55:57
SPEAKER_05: They both good players, they're good players.
56:00
SPEAKER_06: CC, CC AJ Wilson, Kelsey Plum.
56:04
SPEAKER_05: They took most of them in the league 10 years.
56:06
SPEAKER_05: No, we don't watch her.
56:08
SPEAKER_06: We love CC.
56:10
SPEAKER_06: CC love CC.
56:11
SPEAKER_06: This is see this will happen if you grow up in one of the nicest counties in the country.
56:15
SPEAKER_06: When you that diversity he's talking about.
56:18
SPEAKER_06: That diversity he's talking about, yo.
56:21
SPEAKER_06: You know, same diversity that was shitting on the walls of my house a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about well, either way.
56:39
SPEAKER_06: I I feel a little different.
56:40
SPEAKER_06: I think the league is kind of on autopilot at this point.
56:44
SPEAKER_06: They're taking it back from this this white supremacist regime.
56:47
SPEAKER_06: I think when Trump's out of office, Caitlin Clark will be a footnote in WNBA history as somebody who kickstarted a movement that got a bunch of fans that they didn't really want and invested in the game.
56:59
SPEAKER_06: And look at the type of people that they're gravitating to.
57:02
SPEAKER_06: That's a good segue, right?
57:03
SPEAKER_06: Into this young lady.
57:04
SPEAKER_07: Uh-oh, uh-oh.
57:06
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
57:07
SPEAKER_06: Somebody who's been in the league for eight years, who's who's this, she did this.
57:12
SPEAKER_06: She did this, and now she's getting no people have.
57:16
SPEAKER_06: She got her own shoe?
57:17
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not a it's not a signature shoe.
57:19
SPEAKER_06: This is the problem.
57:20
SPEAKER_06: A lot of creators.
57:21
SPEAKER_06: Oh, they need to give her a signature shoe.
57:23
SPEAKER_06: It's not a signature shoe.
57:24
SPEAKER_06: It's just a play, P E of a crazy, a crazy energy shoe, which I believe is this a basketball shoe, a girl's one maybe.
57:31
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
57:31
SPEAKER_06: That Adidas makes, right?
57:32
SPEAKER_06: It's probably WMBA specific.
57:34
SPEAKER_06: But she got her own colorway.
57:37
SPEAKER_06: I think they're gonna release it.
57:39
SPEAKER_06: And I think it's I don't know if it's based off of like um yeah, I don't know if it was based off that finger pointing shit, and they're capitalizing off of it, or she already had one in the works.
57:51
SPEAKER_06: Haktua.
57:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but I think I think she probably had one already in the works.
57:53
SPEAKER_06: It's coming out July 22.
57:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, you know what, you know how you know, look, when Haktua happened, they had a podcast in the works within two weeks.
58:00
SPEAKER_03: This shit came off of that pointing shit.
58:03
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
58:03
SPEAKER_03: Like shoes take a while to produce, unless the date just said, let's slap some paint on this.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this model.
58:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they always have they always have they always have shit on the shelf, trust me.
58:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah for like Lin Sanity probably got a colored way when that shit was happening.
58:17
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you know what?
58:18
SPEAKER_03: He had all kinds of shit on the shit.
58:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, who was he with?
58:20
SPEAKER_05: He he was with and one somebody he did a Nike.
58:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Nike.
58:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he got a P.
58:26
SPEAKER_03: He signed like a$20 million or some deal or some shit.
58:29
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
58:29
SPEAKER_06: No, no,$10 million.
58:30
SPEAKER_06: It was$10 million.
58:31
SPEAKER_06: You know what I think this is?
58:32
SPEAKER_06: They probably they probably already made this shoe.
58:34
SPEAKER_06: Because it's a pink shoe, it doesn't look special.
58:36
SPEAKER_06: There's nothing signature about this, yeah.
58:38
SPEAKER_06: Or as far as that that shows anything that that that's you know, they should have a finger on it.
58:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
58:45
SPEAKER_06: Oh, this is just a basic colorway of this shoe, I'm thinking, and then they just gave it to her and said, hey, you can just have this exclusive as your P your PE, your player edition, and and to sell it.
58:54
SPEAKER_06: Because I'm I'm sure this the shoe ain't sound like D's basketball is so I just one one thing I will say that WNBA does a really good job uh on the social media side and being in the chatter for Lynn Sandra.
59:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they they released a Nike Zoom hyperfuse low and Nick's blue and orange for his run during his run.
59:17
SPEAKER_03: So trust me, they could they could roll out some shit like we cov.
59:22
SPEAKER_06: But I don't I don't think this has anything to do with her particularly her actions lately, but I'll I commend her for capitalizing on this because she's been through podcast runs.
59:32
SPEAKER_06: She got my man right here pointing at the screen.
59:34
SPEAKER_03: And she didn't mean she was a UFC girl, she was a UFC girl the other day.
59:38
SPEAKER_03: Was she?
59:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she was a ring girl for the um, yeah, yeah.
59:43
SPEAKER_05: Whoa, whoa, whoa, what damn, really?
59:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's capitalizing on it, and her social media is blowing up.
59:54
SPEAKER_05: Elevating an entire league.
59:56
SPEAKER_06: CC, she's just popular right now because she fits an aesthetic that appeals to that CC's fan base.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_06: Because C CC is look, come on.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_06: If CC was a regular citizen, she'd be mid at best, look-wise.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_06: Mid mid, like, oh, you got a nice body, but uh butter, butter face.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
1:00:15
SPEAKER_06: She's a butter face.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_05: I'm not saying that she's she might be attracted to you know you know who you need to be you, you know who CC needs to be compared to.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_05: Don't give me I tiger Reese or Cece.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_05: Who would you take?
1:00:28
SPEAKER_05: Oh, Reese.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Andrew Reese.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_05: Wait, no, no, no.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_05: Say it.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_05: Huh?
1:00:34
SPEAKER_05: Say it.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_05: No, don't say obviously.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_05: He won't.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_05: See?
1:00:40
SPEAKER_05: Andrew Reese is a beautiful name.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_05: There's no doubt about it.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_06: Beautiful, yeah.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_05: CC is the tiger woods of women's sports.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_06: Tiger Woods is a handsome man, or was a handsome.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_06: No, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_05: What tiger did for black people?
1:01:02
SPEAKER_05: No, no, tiger elevated industry.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_06: He was a great, yes, he did, he did his thing.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_06: But if you're comparing greatness, he's up there with the greats, but you can debate is Jack Nicholas better or whoever.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_06: No, no, you can be a little bit more.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_03: So it's the same way.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_03: The same way you can say Serena Williams is number one tennis player.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_05: Well, Serena won the most titles, right?
1:01:28
SPEAKER_05: No, she's not.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_03: I don't care about Tina Navatilova had 27, really?
1:01:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_03: I believe so.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_05: Or Steffi Graf.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_03: No, Stephanie Graff, she beat, she was over Stephie Graff.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_05: She beat Steffi Graff.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_05: Right, right, right, right.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_05: But that's though.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_05: Serena Williams elevated the sport of women women's tennis.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_05: It's not got nothing to do about winning Wimbledon.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_06: Wait, I'm looking here.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_06: Uh oh Mark, wait, Mar oh Margaret.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_06: Margaret Court.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_03: Margaret Court.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_03: Margaret Court was a very good thing.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_03: 24.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_03: Serena has 23.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: So right.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_05: So and Margaret Court played with like a wooden tennis.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but that was in the 60s.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_05: I don't think it counts.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: Tigers, what two behind Jack Nicholas?
1:02:08
SPEAKER_05: Tigers two, but yeah.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_05: And he'll never, he's not gonna get no more.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_05: Not the way he's going.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_05: But he elevated a sport that people who don't care about golf.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_05: Watch, we know Tiger Woods.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_05: The same way me and you are talking about three guys here, three macho guys are talking about WNBA in July.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:02:27
SPEAKER_06: It's sports, bro.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_06: Come on, come on, give CC her due.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_06: CC I'm I'm she has a bad attitude.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_06: That's what fucks with me.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_06: A lot of people have bad attitudes.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_06: Come on.
1:02:42
unknown: Come on.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_05: She should have bad attitude the way you guys have been treating her.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_04: Yo, you know what?
1:02:47
SPEAKER_04: I just realized Sean.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_03: I just realized Sean's impartial.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_03: I just realized they treat that.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_03: You know what they treating CC like, dude?
1:02:54
SPEAKER_03: Who?
1:02:54
SPEAKER_03: They treat CC like Nikki Licky.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_03: Like Nikki Licky.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_05: Don't dish your OG.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_05: She's terrible.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_05: If she walked down the street, I'm like, you're terrible.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_05: Cam, don't even say nothing to her.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_03: The the the female, what's it, the white Aaliyah?
1:03:12
SPEAKER_03: Man, that was so reach.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, what was Dave like?
1:03:16
SPEAKER_05: How did that even come out of your mouth?
1:03:18
SPEAKER_05: Like, how does that thought circulate?
1:03:21
SPEAKER_05: Oh, did y'all watch the home run derby?
1:03:24
SPEAKER_05: I did not watch it, but I heard it.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_05: I tried to get it.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_03: It was on Netflix now.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_03: This is the first year it's black winner since 99, I think.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_06: Black man has them on the home run derby and since 99.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_06: Who won 99?
1:03:37
SPEAKER_06: King Griffey?
1:03:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think King Griffey.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_03: I think he wore his hat backwards.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_05: Yo, King Griffey's swing is so damn effortless.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_05: It's just the purest swing ever.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_05: It's like a Jordan jumper, you know, effortless.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_05: Best player.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_05: King's only one.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: He was the only you know what?
1:03:57
SPEAKER_03: I do like the mace take, though.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_03: Did you see the mace take where he said he said Martin Luther?
1:04:02
SPEAKER_03: He said, look, I figured it out.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_03: He said, he said, you know, Obama was the first black president, Obama's the first, a lot of things.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_03: But you would never put him above Martin Luther King.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_03: He said it's the same thing like MJ.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_03: MJ, LeBron was the first at this, most points, but you would never put Obama above Martin Luther King, same way MJ is the Martin Luther King of basketball.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_03: And I said that's actually a really good take.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_03: Because it really is.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_03: LeBron first at this, most at this.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_03: All-time wins.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_03: All time.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_03: But you're not gonna because Obama was the first black president, you're not gonna put him over MLK.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_06: I would.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_06: I uh I wouldn't.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_06: Look, look, look.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_06: A lot of stuff that M L K.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_06: No, no.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_06: You gotta think about okay.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_06: Yes, he's okay.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_06: Let me let me hear this one.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_06: Let me hear this one.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_06: Um this is my take on it, because it's always this history involved in this, right?
1:04:56
SPEAKER_06: It's the same thing.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_06: Like you could say, then then then then um why don't you just put Abraham Lincoln above MJ then?
1:05:02
SPEAKER_06: Because he freed the slaves, right?
1:05:03
SPEAKER_06: He freed the reason that's the reason why we're all here right now.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_06: Not because of MLK, but because of Abraham Lincoln.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_06: No, actually, yeah, actually.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_06: No, that was.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_06: No, you go do your you go to the right.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_06: So then you can go all the way back to Bill Russell, because then that's better that's Bill Russell.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_06: Well, why don't you do your take?
1:05:19
SPEAKER_06: This is my take.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_06: Look, Bill Russell won more chips than MJ, and he set history by playing in that era of the world.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I thought you were making a take about you putting Obama over M OK.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, no.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_06: This is why Obama is over M OK, because Obama.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_06: Longevity, obviously, he did he did the whole eight terms, right?
1:05:39
SPEAKER_06: He didn't he never got us out.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_06: Eight terms?
1:05:40
SPEAKER_06: Eight years, I mean eight eight years, two terms, or whatever.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_06: Sorry.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_06: I misspoke.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_06: Anyway.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_06: The longevity factor.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_06: Um, he got us out of an economic crisis.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_06: So LeBron, you could arguably has done a lot for players in the league where he's got The more money because of his moves.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_06: Uh Obama is a more skilled person when it comes to you know being an auditor, and also um when it comes to like legislation, bipartisan stuff, like MOK as he evolved, start this is why they killed him, became less of a uh more of a divisive figure, and that's why they they assassinated him.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_06: Um LeBron kind of teeters the line, but you know, when he says, Oh, I wouldn't mind going to Israel one day, that's a very Obama thing to say, right?
1:06:36
SPEAKER_06: Like that type of thing.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_06: So I can see he's taken NBA to a whole other level past MJ, but if you're trying to categorize people in in errors of like what they've done, so like Bill Russell freed the slaves, MJ, he didn't get assassinated, but he kind of elevated us, got us off the field, and said, hey, we deserve more money and all this other stuff.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_06: So people started getting their deals and all that shit.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_06: And LeBron just, you know, put us in on the moon.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_06: Shit, he put us on Mars, yo.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_06: And MJ, I mean, look, look, you could always say, look, again, MJ, the things that MJ did, and I keep saying this, and you you refuse to believe me.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_06: Kids in eighth grade are doing those moves now.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_06: And it's not I'll give all the credit in the world to MJ.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_06: The generation, the era that he played in, the guys that he played against were just not that athletic.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, hold on, hold on.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay, you know, you know MJ's vertical, you know.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_03: I'm not talking about him.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about the competition.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wait, okay, okay, but but the competition.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_05: I would get back to the Obama.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_05: Damn fucking Obama.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_03: That's what we got.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_03: So I would put MOK M OK above.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_03: I would put M OK above.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_05: The reason I would put M OK above because Obama was still he's a politician.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_05: Like he's yeah, he's in a structure that you almost have to do that.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_03: M OK had political, like he made change respect without having to.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_05: But he was like for the people, literally, yeah, the people.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_05: He put his life on the line for the people.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_05: It wasn't about no Republican, Democrat, no votes, and yeah, no votes.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_05: It's this is just like me elevating a whole humanity.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_05: I will always put some, I will always put someone over that than a politician.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_05: Now, Obama's a bad guy, he's great.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_05: I love the guy, he's a really cool guy.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_06: But before you go on, I gotta say one thing.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_06: I'm saying this from uh accomplishments and longevity thing, but Obama really didn't do shit for black people.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_06: We're not talking about just black people in jail, he ain't done shit for black people.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_06: I I said that years ago.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_06: I'll say it again.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_06: I respect the man for what he's done as far as accomplishing things as a president and everything.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_06: You know, I made a lot of money under Obama.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_06: I'm sure Sean has, I'm sure you have.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_06: So, you know, that's all I have to say, but go on.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, no, and that's the thing.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_05: Like it Martin King was just, man, that he was more importantly, he was a brilliant talker, but he was a brilliant doer.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_05: And not not a lot of people can do both those things.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_05: Um I love the guy.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_05: Uh I know stuff has come out, you know, about him cheating and all that.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, listen, this man damn near saving humanity.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_05: He should be able to get some side joints, but that's just me.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_03: All right, like that's a good thing.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_03: Wait until the book comes out about LeBron.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_06: Oh, well, but you gotta think.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_06: This is the thing.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: Wait till Drake, wait until Drake dropped them tapes.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Teach me, baby.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I just can't I can't compare them if you're comparing these things, but I I feel like they're all they're not.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_06: I can't compare Martin Luther King and Obama as peers.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_06: They they they're different, again, like like basketball, different eras, different different, different things they needed to accomplish in retrospect.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_06: Think about this, and let's just put it, I'm gonna put it into the context of the times.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_06: Martin Luther King saved black people in America from becoming you know back to slavery or whatever, or whatever the fuck they were trying to do, like say you know, Jim Crow and giving it civil rights.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_06: Obama saved the whole country from an economic disaster.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_06: Black and white, Asian, everybody.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_06: Sure, right?
1:10:27
SPEAKER_06: Like that that if if another Republican got in there, this wouldn't have been fixed.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_03: We'd be but but but really but really when you think about it, the the the the bus boy cuts and all of that, those were economic disasters potentially because the city no no for every but everybody the sit-outs, everything like people were putting their jobs on the line, you know, to not to not work.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that really crippled the economy in a in a sense without any power of Congress.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_03: No, that was without any power of Congress, you know, manufacturing, yeah, without power of the Congress.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's why he ended up being meeting with presidents and you know and and having conversations.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_06: I get it, but two different things, two different things.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_03: One is MJ and one is LeBron.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_03: So we can move on.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_06: But you made this comment once about how how on our previous podcast, the 12 hub one, um, Sean made this comment about how it was harder back in the day to do certain things.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_06: That's true.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_03: I said I said, like the yeah, Kareem and all of them, the early players that had to take the bus, no private players.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_03: So Martin Luther King was actually they had it harder, they had it harder, even though Obama had more skill.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_06: See, the thing is you had to you had to have Martin Luther King to have Obama.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_06: So, and you had to have Bill Russell or Abraham Lincoln to have Martin Luther King.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_06: Because if there was no Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King would be kicking cotton right now.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_03: But here's my thing if if records are not being broken for 30 years when the player is riding a bus, I put that higher up than you ride private.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_03: No, you ride private, you getting you getting chefs.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_03: I feel like, damn, and you come and you start playing.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_03: Kareem had chefs.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_03: You start playing an NBA at 17.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, I mean, uh yeah.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_06: LeBron wrote a bus.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_03: Okay, he was in a Hummer at 15 years old.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_03: Like, remember that story that the Hummer Projects.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the that paperwork was clean.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_03: His mom may have no job.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_03: And it had an$80,000 car.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_03: He had an$80,000 car limited to projects.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_03: Look, you know what?
1:12:28
SPEAKER_06: All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, everybody's circumstances are different.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_06: You take advantage of what you have in front of you in that moment, okay?
1:12:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_06: Martin Luther King had freedom in front of him.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_06: Lincoln, Lincoln freed the slaves.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_06: No, Matt, no, but like he could Martin Luther King cannot do anything.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_03: Lincoln's freed the slaves.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_06: Whatever, whoever freed the fucking slaves.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_06: Lincoln, whatever.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_06: But Martin, again, Martin Luther King had freedom.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_06: And then you can say Frederick, what about Frederick Douglass?
1:12:59
SPEAKER_06: How are you free if you can't vote?
1:13:00
SPEAKER_06: So wait, is Frederick Douglass his was his accomplishments greater than Martin Luther King?
1:13:05
SPEAKER_06: Or Harriet Tubman's were they greater than Martin Luther King?
1:13:09
SPEAKER_06: Because they were in chains.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_06: They got whipped every fucking day.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_06: They were risking their lives in the Underground Railroad.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's it's it's it's it's a not about necessarily when you're talking about in those terms, greater.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_03: It's talking about the fact of like what they did, right?
1:13:24
SPEAKER_03: So like what they freed people.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm saying, yeah, but but LeBron, when we compare him to Obama, right?
1:13:31
SPEAKER_03: He was the cushy, you know, come in.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_03: Nobody really, right?
1:13:36
SPEAKER_03: Obama was a one-term senator, he came in, shocked the world.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_03: But he was a brilliant politician.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_03: Similar to LeBron.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_03: Michael Jordan came up from the ranks, got cut from varsity, and had to work his way through and was chip on his shoulder like a Brady.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_03: Those are different types of people.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_03: So we could put some of those other people you just talked about in the same left economy.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_03: We can't put Obama in in the same way.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_06: What are you talking about?
1:14:05
SPEAKER_06: He won national championship.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he won a nanny and Olympic title.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_03: He won an Olympic, yeah, he won Olympic gold.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_03: Because the U.S.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_03: was winning every Olympic.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_03: No, he this is back when college players, he this was before he was in Dream Team.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_03: He won Olympic gold.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_03: They won a lot of gold.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_06: They didn't win, they didn't lose many.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_06: They didn't lose many enough.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_06: I think they probably lost.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_06: I think in those Olympics in the 70s and 80s, I think they only lost like once or twice.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_03: And he went 8 0.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_03: And he went 8-0 against uh Olympic team with college players coming in.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_05: He was he was busting them.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_03: And he broke the back.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_03: And he broke the backboard before Shaq.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_03: Shattered the backboard.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_06: Shattered backboard joints?
1:14:46
unknown: Yeah.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, of course.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_03: So there's that.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_03: And he was and he was a good one.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_03: But did he free the slaves?
1:14:51
SPEAKER_03: And you know what?
1:14:52
SPEAKER_03: LeBron, you know what?
1:14:53
SPEAKER_03: Did he free the slaves though?
1:14:54
SPEAKER_03: LeBron chasing LeBron.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_03: Look, he tried, he look, he even did a uh the fucking Bugs Bunny movie.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_03: Come on, bro.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_03: Like LeBron even did the damn Bugs Bunny, the Space Jam.
1:15:05
SPEAKER_03: Space Jam 2.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_03: Yo.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_03: Let me tell you.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_03: Both movies suck.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_03: He's chasing ghosts.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_03: Both movies suck.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_03: LeBron just sucked a little more.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_03: But the first one had McDonald's involved, and I was a kid, and I loved that element of it.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_03: Because you can get that McDonald's.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_06: You get those cups and the plushy toy.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_06: This is this is this see people, nostalgia makes it seem like these guys are larger than life.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_06: Like I told you, their memories of this.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_06: Well, why do you think LeBron's doing it?
1:15:38
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no, no.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_06: Your memories of Michael Jordan is him jumping over cartoons and shit.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_06: No, no.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_06: He didn't know.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_06: The reverse switching the hand on the layup, there is a ninth grader right now who does that every day.
1:15:49
SPEAKER_03: You know what's so funny?
1:15:50
SPEAKER_03: My memories of Michael Jordan are the same as LeBron's memories of Michael Jordan.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so like we all have the same memories.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_03: I loved watching MC.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_04: 23?
1:16:01
SPEAKER_04: Do you think LeBron was 23 for no reason?
1:16:03
SPEAKER_06: The reality of it is that not the star hasn't faded, but there are people doing greater things.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_06: Just and and that's and when you live in that moment, like there was a point in time where Steph, when Steph Curry was dominating, everybody was like, yo, he's the GOAT now.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_06: He's the goat.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_06: LeBron he's the greatest shooter.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_06: He's the greatest shooter.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_06: But when you look under it after everything, yo, DeMar DeRozan has more points than Steph Curry.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_06: DeMar fucking DeRozan.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_05: And you would say DeMar DeRozan is better than see.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_05: I I think you can't look at it like that.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_05: You say DeMar DeRozan's better than Steph Curry?
1:16:38
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_05: Better anything like that.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_06: Look at things in context.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_06: Who's done more?
1:16:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Steph Curry's way more than Carl Malone is third all-time in scoring.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_05: That means he's the third best player.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what, Hugh, the one thing you know the things that we look at when you talk about you was all no, you were streaking my ear off about how Carl Malone deserves a shot.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_03: But Hugh, you Hugh, you know the thing that you know the things that we look at are things like a four-time, okay, first team defensive, MVP, uh champion, um, first team all NBA.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_03: He's done it four times.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_03: No one had ever done it once.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_03: We look at things like that.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_03: So, like, like we look at things that have never been done, and he's done them four times.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but we look at stuff like no.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_03: You know they cheated.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_03: You know that there is proof that they cheated.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay, how did you okay cheated at cheated at winning the championship, cheated?
1:17:29
SPEAKER_03: No, the league.
1:17:31
SPEAKER_03: Never mind the championship.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_03: The championship are irrelevant.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_03: Because you can't use championships.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay, no, that that that defense after we say LeBron's resume.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_03: How about this?
1:17:39
SPEAKER_03: Let's take the championship out of the way.
1:17:41
SPEAKER_03: All defensive, all NBA, and VP of the league.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_03: He did that three different times in the year.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_03: He got those three things outside of winning a championship.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_03: No one's ever done it once.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_06: Well, LeBron could have done it twice, but he got robbed because of the media.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_03: Could have could have done it.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_03: I don't know about those things.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_06: When Mark Gasel, okay, come on.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_03: You can even think MJ could have gotten another one from 2012, 2013, then Ilk 1121.
1:18:10
SPEAKER_03: Was that the one of the year?
1:18:11
SPEAKER_03: I think it's 2012, 2013.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_03: You're telling me Carl Malone should have gotten two MVPs?
1:18:18
SPEAKER_03: Come on now.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_06: But MVPs are different than defensive player of the year.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_03: No, he got all defensive first team.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_03: All NBA first team.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_03: MVP.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_06: LeBron never won a D defensive player of the year.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_06: You know why?
1:18:33
SPEAKER_06: Because of the media.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_06: I'm dead serious.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_06: You know this.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_06: You know this.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_06: But I'm saying, all of the things.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_06: He would have won unanimous MVP.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_06: That year he didn't win unanimous MVP by one vote.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_06: Some idiot voted for Carmelo Anthony.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_06: Who the fuck wrote Ramelo?
1:18:47
unknown: Yes.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_03: And by the way, he played 82.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_03: No, by the way, he played 82 games.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_03: No, I know that doesn't matter nowadays.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_03: I understand that.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_03: Because there are people who are irrelevant that play 82 games.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_03: That's not an accomplishment.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_03: You know what's going to be.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_03: No, no, you know it's going to be a good thing.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_03: That's not an accomplishment.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_03: So we have we have Okay, I'll give you an example, Hugh.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_03: We have uh planes now that are automated, right?
1:19:06
SPEAKER_03: And and and eventually, there's a certain amount of thousands of hours you need to be a commercial pilot.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_03: Eventually, you're not gonna need these thousands of hours.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_03: But you know what I will never say?
1:19:16
SPEAKER_03: That that person is a better pilot than the one that took thousands of hours to get to where they got to.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm never gonna be like, yeah, the AI pilot damn sure is better than that.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_03: The AI pilot is better than the regular pilot.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_03: No, because they can take that thousand hours.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about somebody who's a pilot relying on AI, not an AI, not a robot pilot.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying someone who is relying on AI.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_03: A person who used to have to fly a plane and get, you know, all this kind of shit.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_03: Now you have to learn a computer.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_03: And and LeBron had to learn the computer, that's all.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_05: Listen, Bron's a great.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_05: We we love Bronn.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we love Braun.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_05: But you deny the fact incredible.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_06: Okay, but never mind.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_06: This argument is a good idea.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_06: You deny the facts.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_06: You deny facts, you deny the facts that they were passing stats.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_06: You deny that that media members of the media robbed LeBron of reward awards.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_05: Can we talk about the passing of Lindsey Graham now?
1:20:12
SPEAKER_05: Uh I think they poisoned him.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_05: Well, that's that that's I'm so he was over in where Iraq or somewhere and came back and died.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_05: That don't make sense, right?
1:20:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like Ukraine or some shit.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, he was in Ukraine.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_05: I was what do you think happened with that?
1:20:30
SPEAKER_05: Are you guys big Lindsay Graham fans?
1:20:32
SPEAKER_05: Uh he is big fan of him?
1:20:37
SPEAKER_03: Am I a fan of him?
1:20:39
SPEAKER_03: That's yeah, that's been a universal, like everybody's been like talking about.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_06: No one's saying people, people hate Lindsay.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_06: I don't hate him.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_06: He was a charming guy, I heard, but he's just a horrible person.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_06: What about Mickey?
1:20:55
SPEAKER_03: Well, what about but do you?
1:20:56
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say, do we think he's still alive or do we think that's AI?
1:20:59
SPEAKER_03: Have you seen the picture from him in the hospital?
1:21:01
SPEAKER_03: He crisp, yeah, that polo crisp.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_03: And why okay, he looked healthy as shit, crisp as hell.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he was in Ukraine and sitting on a hospital bed.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_03: Like, you see the picture?
1:21:12
SPEAKER_06: They got a property like see this is the problem.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_06: Why aren't they they could easily they they they were took a they took a camera?
1:21:18
SPEAKER_06: Why don't you take a little video?
1:21:20
SPEAKER_06: Hey, this is yeah, yeah, exactly.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_06: I'm here, I'm alive.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_03: Have you seen the Mitch McConnell AI?
1:21:24
SPEAKER_03: No, pull it up pull it up.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, pull up the picture.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_03: Mitch McConnell proof of life picture.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_03: They're they propped him up, you're like weaken at burning.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_03: It looks like a Hallbart car.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_03: He's in a he's like in a hospital or somewhere, I guess he can't really say anything, but he's crisp.
1:21:38
SPEAKER_03: He got a crisp shirt on.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_06: No, they I mean they keep saying that this has been debunked, it's a real picture, but the media, I don't trust them.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_06: Here we go, here we go.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, there we go.
1:21:48
SPEAKER_06: Look at him.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_06: The pink joint.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, look, look, look.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, how come they didn't do a video?
1:21:54
SPEAKER_03: That should look like a who's that with him, is white?
1:21:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_03: I don't that should look fake to me.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_06: And why only one picture?
1:22:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_06: It's like weird.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_06: Like, why would you not have Key Enlarge?
1:22:07
SPEAKER_06: Pause.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that should look fake to me, though.
1:22:11
SPEAKER_03: Look, he Oh, wait, I'm in the wrong.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry, I didn't have the slides I had the slideshow, but there we go.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, look, look like overlay.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_03: That's look at look at this.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_05: I don't believe you know I don't I think this is you know a video would have debunked it all.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_05: We could have put like a newspaper in front of him.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, they did like something with his shirt.
1:22:28
SPEAKER_03: They did a like a verification that he has worn this shirt before, apparently, but it was like 15 years, you know.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_03: They have this whole photo thing that they could do, uh, they can photo match sneakers and all that kind of stuff.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_03: So apparently he's worn this shirt before, but it was like 20 years ago.
1:22:44
SPEAKER_03: They're like, Well, he can still wear the shame shirt, you know, people wear the same shirt, and I'm like, like you said, though, Hugh, why didn't he do a video?
1:22:52
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_05: Um President Reagan, when President Reagan got shot, um he was like had a video, like a it was like a performance.
1:23:01
SPEAKER_06: Well, he's an actor, but like it was like a uh a FaceTime video with the journalist or anything.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_06: Hey, I'm doing he's up and around, you know.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_06: You can just do something 10 minutes, five minutes, not even.
1:23:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, or if they want their privacy, he's dead.
1:23:15
SPEAKER_06: He's I'm not dead, but they probably he could be dead, and they just propped his body up.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_06: Look at his eyes, yo.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_03: That would be crazy.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_05: He's probably in a vegetative state, you know what I mean?
1:23:32
SPEAKER_05: They could have propped him up.
1:23:34
SPEAKER_03: But he's in, like he's not in a bed though, he's in a chair, like a chair, yeah.
1:23:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so he's got a paper.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_03: Hold on, come on, what's going on?
1:23:43
SPEAKER_06: They did an analysis on this paper.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_06: I didn't read it, but I think I think it's from 1868.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_06: Some AI papers.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_03: He's reading, he's reading about Abraham Lincoln's freeing the slaves, free the slaves.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_03: He's like, damn it, they freed them.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_03: They playing baseball now, yeah.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_05: Yo, I don't know.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_05: I hope the brother's okay.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_05: Um, I don't know.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_05: He's got a lot of help.
1:24:06
SPEAKER_06: I don't want him to die, but I want him to go away.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_06: Go away.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_06: That's the same as dying, you know, going away?
1:24:12
SPEAKER_06: Nah.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_06: We don't wish nobody dead around here.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_06: You just want him to retire to his farm and chill for the rest of his life.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_06: Hey, whatever you can do while he's still standing.
1:24:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, I did see Memphis Bleak after offered uh Yeo a meal at one of his restaurants, though.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_03: That was nice.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_05: Yo, come to Vegas show.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_05: I got I mean you like you like smoked duck.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, all he talked about is man, we was eating smoked mackerel, we was eating smoked duck, we was eating.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_03: We Leonard Da Vinci's house.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:24:41
SPEAKER_06: You get poor people money, they start wilding out.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_03: We had sardines.
1:24:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
1:24:45
SPEAKER_03: We see bison, bison, bison burger.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
1:24:51
SPEAKER_06: I know I don't I don't I've I don't have that many hood friends, but you take them out of their element and they get something that nice that they like.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_06: They are married to it and won't stop talking about it.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I know that through and through.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_06: That smoked salmon, man.
1:25:05
SPEAKER_06: I never had that in my fucking.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, shit, go get that shit over at Whole Foods.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_03: That's that's how that's how we used to get that's how I used to get food back then.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_03: You'd be around somebody.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I never tried that.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_03: You get a little, that's how you get a little sample.
1:25:17
SPEAKER_03: Let me get by that burger.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I never I never had a burger before.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_03: You never had a burger?
1:25:21
SPEAKER_03: Nah.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, my dad used to do that shit, man.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_06: It was so funny.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_06: Like he I'd be eating a bag of chips or something.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_06: He's like, Oh, me try one of those.
1:25:30
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_06: You bought these for me, though.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_06: These are the ones I asked for you to get to the grocery store.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_06: You want to try?
1:25:36
SPEAKER_06: You could have got your own.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_05: Oh, so quick question, guys.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_05: Have you guys been following the Uncle Neris story?
1:25:42
SPEAKER_05: Uh I I've fallen in a f month ago, but there was a Uncle Neris was it's a black woman-owned um bourbon.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_05: And like she's just going to uh conservative ship and she lost the business.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_05: She had like outstanding loans.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_05: Jay-Z was supposed to, or Rock Nation, whoever was gonna buy it, but some fell through, and now she got literally like shipped out of her own companies.
1:26:08
SPEAKER_05: Oh super sad, super sad.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I heard there was a lot of um they were growing like crazy too in the beginning.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_05: Yes, they were, yes, they were.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_05: I met her at the Martha's Vineyard, really nice lady, but I I think they just started like getting overexposed and just started she brought a house in Martha's Vineyard.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_05: She started like going on social media, you know, just doing shit that she could have just chilled.
1:26:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_06: But shout out to that lady though.
1:26:35
SPEAKER_06: I hope everything works out.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_06: Shout out to Fawn Weaver.
1:26:37
SPEAKER_06: I hope you're not gonna be able to try to do a lot of like um tricky legal things to keep her in power over there.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I heard about that.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_06: Uh yeah, it's crazy.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_06: Oh, I do want to talk uh about the Kai Sonat Streamer University to keep up with the kids here.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_06: Brilliant what they're doing this year.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_06: And shout out to Drake for I don't know what he donated to these children or these streamers, but uh he's really keeping up with uh you know, keeping his media presence relevant.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's smart.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, look, if anything, man, I'll give these guys makes sense.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, it does, you know, embracing the younger.
1:27:13
SPEAKER_06: That's how you stay relevant, you know what I'm saying?
1:27:15
SPEAKER_06: Uh same LeBron does the same thing, you know, with everybody, but you know, uh, but uh yeah, LeBron should be crazy.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, LeBron was he was rocking, he was cripplocking at the G-Z concert.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_03: I know Drake didn't like that shit.
1:27:26
SPEAKER_03: He didn't like that shit at all.
1:27:28
SPEAKER_06: I really like how LeBron is embracing his unk swag now with the gray beard and everything.
1:27:34
SPEAKER_06: He should rock the gray beard all next season, all season, 100%.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_05: I think my theory with Braun, yo, I'm not even signing to a team till January.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm not going to training camp.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna get picked up.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_03: It's all good.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, whoever's doing good, I'll go to them.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_05: Like, he's at the ring chasing stage of his life.
1:27:55
SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, I don't think he wants to do that, I think he just wants to play in a good thing because he still wants to play.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_06: Well, he's definitely at the rings chase the stage right here.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_06: It's not about rings.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_06: He got rings already.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_03: I know, but he's chasing rings now.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, he's not chasing rings.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_06: I think he's he said he's not chasing.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_06: He just wants to go play in a good then.
1:28:15
SPEAKER_05: Why not just go to LA?
1:28:16
SPEAKER_05: Why not just stay in LA then?
1:28:17
SPEAKER_06: Why would you say he doesn't fit with that unit?
1:28:19
SPEAKER_06: And they and they they weren't gonna give him no number one, he wants to be not necessarily a priority, but actually a person of interest.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_06: And LA has proven for at least the last two or three seasons that he is no longer a person of interest, at least since they got Luca.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:28:38
SPEAKER_03: And the fact that wherever he goes, wherever he goes, he's not gonna be a person of interest.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_06: There's a lot of teams.
1:28:43
SPEAKER_06: There's teams that actually Miami, he would go in Miami.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_03: He's not gonna be like the purse of interest.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_05: The number one option, right?
1:28:52
SPEAKER_03: Like wherever he goes, he won't be the number one option.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_03: He's 41 years old.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_03: What the fuck?
1:28:55
SPEAKER_03: So so yeah, so why not stay in the middle of the street?
1:28:57
SPEAKER_03: Jordan number one option on the Witches, and he was like 36.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_03: So why not stand there?
1:29:01
SPEAKER_03: Was Jordan the number one option?
1:29:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, Jordan came down from the Jews.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_03: Was Jordan a number one option in Washington?
1:29:06
SPEAKER_03: Yes, absolutely he's number one option.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that team is terrible.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_06: That team was terrible.
1:29:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:29:13
SPEAKER_05: No, the best player, pull up, pull up that roster.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_05: I was big.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
1:29:17
SPEAKER_03: You're absolutely right.
1:29:18
SPEAKER_03: Washed LeBron is gonna be a LeBron is gonna be number three option.
1:29:23
SPEAKER_03: We know that.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_06: Where?
1:29:25
SPEAKER_03: Wherever he goes.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_03: Number three.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_03: Let's say he goes to Philly.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_06: Let's just put it in the.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so wait, no, no, no.
1:29:29
SPEAKER_06: Let's let's let's look at this look at the context of he was the number three option last season.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_06: Maxi and B.
1:29:34
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
1:29:35
SPEAKER_06: Let's look at Lakers.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_06: Let's just look at Lakers last year.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_06: So he average, yeah.
1:29:40
SPEAKER_06: He's average.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_06: Steven seven.
1:29:43
SPEAKER_06: And he was the focal point.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_06: What was Jordan averaging as the number one option in Washington?
1:29:50
SPEAKER_06: And they didn't even make to the playoffs.
1:29:52
SPEAKER_05: But no, but so why not just stay in LA if you're in a ring chasing?
1:29:57
SPEAKER_03: He played, yeah.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_03: You don't sit there no more, bro.
1:29:59
SPEAKER_03: He saw the light, and also he wants to be in the organization that came.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_03: That he could chase a ring.
1:30:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're chasing ring.
1:30:04
unknown: Nah, man.
1:30:05
SPEAKER_03: Look, you know what?
1:30:06
SPEAKER_03: I hope you know what?
1:30:07
SPEAKER_03: I do hope LeBron.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_03: No, honestly speaking, this is from the heart.
1:30:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm being for real.
1:30:12
SPEAKER_03: I do hope LeBron gets one more ring, honestly.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like if he gets five, that's awesome.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_03: And I truly believe that.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_06: I bet you if they do something, then I hear a punchline coming.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_06: I hear a punchline coming.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_06: Oh, he just says that's it, you know, because that's all they got left.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_06: These Jordan people, that's all they got left is rings.
1:30:30
SPEAKER_06: And they don't matter no more.
1:30:32
SPEAKER_06: They don't.
1:30:32
SPEAKER_06: Rings versus global.
1:30:36
SPEAKER_06: Again, it's going back to the whole freeing the slaves comment.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_06: Global, don't we talk about global?
1:30:42
SPEAKER_06: No, MJ is the best.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_06: MLK, like MJ, had a good run where he did a lot of things.
1:30:48
SPEAKER_06: And then there were people who before him and after him that accomplished a lot of things in a different context.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:30:55
SPEAKER_06: It only means like yo MLK had it way harder than MJ.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_06: I'll give you that much.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_06: He had to deal with fire holdings.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_06: He was doing basketball.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_06: MJ only deal with getting food poisoned.
1:31:08
SPEAKER_03: MLK had a more harder than nine Obama.
1:31:13
SPEAKER_06: He only had to deal with six seasons without Scottie Pippen.
1:31:16
SPEAKER_06: MLK or Phil Jackson.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_06: He only had six seasons without Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson.
1:31:21
SPEAKER_06: He had it so hard.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, according to uh Scottie Pippen, he's better than LeBron.
1:31:27
SPEAKER_06: Okay, whatever.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_03: He played really.
1:31:30
SPEAKER_06: Scottie Pippen could have been better than LeBron if he actually touched the ball.
1:31:35
SPEAKER_05: No, he couldn't.
1:31:36
SPEAKER_05: No, he couldn't.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_06: Are you serious?
1:31:42
SPEAKER_05: Have you seen those?
1:31:43
SPEAKER_06: He was LeBron James before LeBron didn't.
1:31:46
SPEAKER_05: No, he wasn't.
1:31:47
SPEAKER_05: Pippen was a nice player.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_05: LeBron James is great.
1:31:50
SPEAKER_05: Pippen is good.
1:31:51
SPEAKER_06: He never had a chance to be great.
1:31:53
SPEAKER_06: Look at the numbers that he put up.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_03: After MJ left, he was by himself.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they almost went to the chip.
1:32:03
SPEAKER_03: They almost won it.
1:32:04
SPEAKER_03: They could have gone to the up.
1:32:06
SPEAKER_05: They tried to trade Pippen about four or five times.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_05: He's a good player.
1:32:09
SPEAKER_05: He's a really good player.
1:32:10
SPEAKER_06: When did they try to trade him for?
1:32:12
SPEAKER_06: For what the fuck are you talking about?
1:32:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh, after everyone, 1995, 96.
1:32:15
SPEAKER_03: Yo, MJ had to stick up for him.
1:32:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:32:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's a good one.
1:32:19
SPEAKER_06: Smart man.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_03: Smart guy.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_06: No, Pippin's a good, he's a good player.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_03: They should have traded him.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_06: He probably had more money in his kids.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_03: MJ would have won those same chips with AC Green.
1:32:28
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:32:30
SPEAKER_03: This nigga said with AC Green.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_04: You look like AC Green.
1:32:34
SPEAKER_04: He lost Craig Green Green.
1:32:35
SPEAKER_04: Yo, they lost Craig Hodges.
1:32:37
SPEAKER_04: If they had Craig Hodges, yo, Craig Hodges was the difference.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_04: He looked like Benverid.
1:32:42
SPEAKER_06: Craig Hodges, man.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_06: If Craig Hodges didn't turn all Islam and shit, they would have fucking won some fucking uh.
1:32:49
SPEAKER_06: Yo, he got three rings, yo.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_06: Craig?
1:32:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:32:53
SPEAKER_06: We got three rings.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_05: Remember he would remember he was not on the basketball team.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_05: Yo, they kicked him out.
1:33:00
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they they they kicked him out because of the um the national.
1:33:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the dash.
1:33:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you say that shit.
1:33:06
SPEAKER_06: Like was like, I ain't wearing that shit.
1:33:09
SPEAKER_06: No.
1:33:12
SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_06: Anyway, that's that's that.
1:33:15
SPEAKER_06: There's uh there's not what else is popping?
1:33:17
SPEAKER_06: Is nothing else?
1:33:18
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
1:33:18
SPEAKER_04: I think that's you know, we're in the dark summer.
1:33:22
SPEAKER_05: It it's uh you know, just a slow time period right now.
1:33:26
SPEAKER_05: We're getting ready for football.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_05: We'll be here in a month or so.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_03: That boat that sank in San Francisco Bay with those tourists on there.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_03: The cruise ship?
1:33:35
SPEAKER_03: I didn't hear about that.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_03: No, it was like a tour.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, they have tours that go to Alcatraz.
1:33:40
SPEAKER_06: Tell you those boats, man.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_06: Sean loves them.
1:33:43
SPEAKER_03: And they uh one sank, and it sank uh two people died.
1:33:47
SPEAKER_03: 19 people were on there, 27 people were on there, and uh, but two people.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_03: Well, there's still five people missing.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_03: But those are rough, those are rough waters over there.
1:33:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm about to say that that that that's San Francisco, yeah.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_05: And that's how we remember.
1:33:59
SPEAKER_05: Remember, you made us watch Escape from Alcatraz with Clinton East.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yo.
1:34:04
SPEAKER_05: That's why he said that those people never made it because like the waters is too rough to you can't just swim in them shits like it's a pool.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, it'll be that raging bull.
1:34:13
SPEAKER_03: Remember, we watched Raging Bull Raging Bull, man.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_03: You gotta watch this.
1:34:20
SPEAKER_05: This was it.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_05: He we used to Sean used to make us watch movies.
1:34:26
SPEAKER_05: He used to make us watch movies like on a computer.
1:34:30
SPEAKER_05: This is pre like deep.
1:34:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is like we didn't have no TVs, none of that on the wall.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_05: You had to watch on your computer, yeah, and he just made us watch on your TV.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_06: Pull up a pull up a chair.
1:34:40
SPEAKER_06: Yo, I had a six-inch TV, yo.
1:34:42
SPEAKER_06: I had this tiny ass little box TV in my room.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_06: My DCR was wider than my TV in college, yo.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_06: And I used to have girls over watching movies in my room.
1:34:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh man, yeah.
1:34:53
SPEAKER_03: I used to pop them in the I'd had the the little speakers.
1:34:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that was back in the day.
1:34:57
SPEAKER_06: Like uh life was so much, I'd say, you know, easier in a sense, you know.
1:35:03
SPEAKER_06: If you had a little something, you had everything.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_06: That makes sense.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you know, little you had if you had a little car, it was the simpler time.
1:35:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah now it's just not it's just not as it you would think it'd be more simpler, but it's just not.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_06: It's like more complex.
1:35:19
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because things have become more complicated, you know.
1:35:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the times we're in.
1:35:24
SPEAKER_05: We're in a very complicated time.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_06: We're who would have thought like this, this, like this having like this thing, the little phone, would be everything that you needed.
1:35:33
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_06: Everything, your money's there, your entertainment's there, everything, yeah.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_05: In some states, can't you carry a license on your phone?
1:35:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:35:43
SPEAKER_03: That was during COVID, they had it where you could yeah, look uploaded.
1:35:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, they're real, yeah.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, man.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_06: Now we got you know shout out to Memphis Bleak, yo.
1:35:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, shout out to Memphis Bleak, man.
1:35:54
SPEAKER_03: That that hat was stiff.
1:35:55
SPEAKER_03: That hat that hat was that hat was fresh.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_03: That shit's fresh out of the box.
1:35:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, summer's it's cooked.
1:36:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, weeks on a world tour.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_03: Hope not.
1:36:04
SPEAKER_03: Hope no, you're about to go to London with this show or LA and oh he's he's trying to be Ye like.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh he ain't doing 80,000 though.
1:36:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, doing 80,000.
1:36:14
SPEAKER_03: He's not doing 80,000 at all.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_06: Do you think you're gonna sell out so far?
1:36:17
SPEAKER_06: I think they already did, right?
1:36:19
SPEAKER_06: He might.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_05: But Ye goes to Albanians and they build on the stadium.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there's there's the thing about it is Ye is the biggest artist in the world.
1:36:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, got like a three million dollar, he got a three million dollar globe floating around, going from country to country.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_05: Hope just on a stage with a fake bulletproof vest.
1:36:38
SPEAKER_05: Like, like, yo, no one's trying to like come on, bro.
1:36:41
SPEAKER_05: Like, don't get it, yeah.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_05: Like, that shit was cool in '97, no doubt.
1:36:49
SPEAKER_06: But like yo, Dame really got in his head with that fucking you need to cut your hair shit.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_06: He saw that shit and was like, you know what?
1:36:58
SPEAKER_06: He's like, babe, you get you gotta do this.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_06: Well, let's get some more marketing going on.
1:37:01
SPEAKER_06: He's like, Yeah, we used to go to the barbership.
1:37:03
SPEAKER_03: I ain't let my girl cut my hair.
1:37:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm not my girl, but she didn't see no mirror, no clippers.
1:37:08
SPEAKER_03: Dame dissenses you for anything.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_05: It's like those uh videos be like, yo, Dave be like off the chain, but Dane be spitting some stuff that I know.
1:37:17
SPEAKER_05: Like you be thinking to yourself, like, he's comedy.
1:37:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure Hobe be like, man, fuck that motherfucker to himself.
1:37:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, man, yeah, fuck you.
1:37:25
SPEAKER_03: When that cinema doo-doo, he's like, Man, fuck you.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_06: You know what's funny?
1:37:30
SPEAKER_06: I always had this assumption about how I always thought Beyonce had bad breath for some reason.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_06: I always just thought that.
1:37:37
SPEAKER_06: And then she got with Jay, and I'm like, man, Jay Z might have bad breath.
1:37:40
SPEAKER_06: No wonder they're compatible.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_06: Like, I don't know what his breath smelled like, nor do I care.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_06: It could be smelling like doo-doo, but look, shit.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_06: I look look, a billion dollars and some doo-doo breath.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_06: I think I can manage a life.
1:37:52
SPEAKER_06: Said a billion dollars, I'm cute.
1:37:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, it's all shit.
1:37:56
SPEAKER_03: It don't matter, but that that shit, this is funny.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_03: But the stuff that Nas said about Hove and to have him, I see where Damon Sane was like, man, that shit is that shit is depressing.
1:38:06
SPEAKER_03: Because Nas said he was like, yo, you dick sucker.
1:38:09
SPEAKER_03: He's like, no mustache, yeah.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we I mean we used to talk, you talk that crazy shit, you know what I mean?
1:38:15
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I oh yeah, I got I had a rap beef in college.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_06: I used to I used to used to record some music.
1:38:20
SPEAKER_06: Kofi knows about this.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_06: I think we've told them stories.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_06: We did some diss tracks back and forth, right?
1:38:25
SPEAKER_06: These guys, these guys literally used to like obsess over they they can they had this line in the song.
1:38:31
SPEAKER_06: Remember that line that with that bitch coffee in the thong?
1:38:34
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that was so that was funny, actually.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_06: They didn't really they really didn't say nothing about me.
1:38:40
SPEAKER_06: I was fat or something, like whatever, man.
1:38:42
SPEAKER_06: Um, but it was you know, to this day, and I can see Dave's point here.
1:38:51
SPEAKER_06: I don't fuck with those dudes.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_06: Like they all we're all 40-something.
1:38:55
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's what Dave said.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_03: I don't like to see the wrestlers get together.
1:38:58
SPEAKER_06: He said, We don't see the wrestlers get together.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_06: But I see these things on Facebook and you know, you go on there and you can't.
1:39:02
SPEAKER_05: So you don't say you're friends with them.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_06: No, I'm not.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_06: I'm not.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_06: I'm not friends.
1:39:06
SPEAKER_06: Actually, I'm friends, I'm Facebook friends with one of them, one of the guys who made the song.
1:39:11
SPEAKER_06: He's the one that said the coffee and a thousand Nate Abney.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_06: Shout out to a Nate Abney, um, he's a kappa too.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_06: And the other guy, JJ Brown, who I never liked, he's a he's a producer.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_06: He actually has some no yeah, he's producer, some artists, like you know, underground people.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_06: But they made that song, right?
1:39:27
SPEAKER_06: And they dissed me.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_06: And I just always wondered why.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_06: What did I do to y'all?
1:39:32
SPEAKER_06: And and they just hated me because I was cool.
1:39:35
SPEAKER_06: Like I was I used to fuck around with like like different people.
1:39:37
SPEAKER_06: And there was another guy, this other guy named Karis.
1:39:40
SPEAKER_06: Um, he was a DJ on campus.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_06: And for some reason, even though he was beefy with us, he's like friends with all the people I'm I'm friends.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_06: But I held on to that whole like I don't like you shit.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_06: Because like Dame, not to say I don't like, I don't think about these people on a daily basis, but I see them on the internet right sometimes.
1:39:59
SPEAKER_06: Like sometimes it'll be suggested friends or something, like on Instagram or Facebook.
1:40:02
SPEAKER_06: So you go down a rabbit hole and see what their life is like, and you know, sometimes it's like, yeah, you know, you're cool, and and and it's whatever.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_06: But then I'm like, shit, I fucking run.
1:40:11
SPEAKER_06: I used to I used to work up at Def Jam.
1:40:14
SPEAKER_06: I helped Drake start his career.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_06: I'm one of the most successful music marketers out there.
1:40:19
SPEAKER_06: Like, I'm doing arguably better than you at the shit that we thought we were all gonna do someday, and that that's like makes me smile.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_06: So let me know.
1:40:28
SPEAKER_06: That's a Kobe uh Kanye said.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_05: So you so you basically have hold you've held a grudge for almost 30 years.
1:40:34
SPEAKER_05: No, no, not holding a grudge.
1:40:36
SPEAKER_03: No, it's it gave me the best years of our life.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_06: I saw a picture of her.
1:40:39
SPEAKER_06: No, but I could see where Dame is coming from.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_06: Like, why would you do that?
1:40:44
SPEAKER_06: But like, if any of those dudes are at the same stature, like let's just say we're all millionaires and shit, and I seen these one of these guys out there, I dap them up, like, yo, man, that shit was stupid.
1:40:54
SPEAKER_06: What we did.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_06: Kofi and a thong.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean, that was stupid.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_06: Kofi, that fucking loser Kofi.
1:40:59
SPEAKER_06: Fuck that nigga.
1:40:59
SPEAKER_06: You might do it now.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_06: I would say that.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_06: I like Kofi.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_06: But there's a whole lot of things.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_06: You love Kofi.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_06: I love Kofi.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_06: No, but no, no, I I think that it's it's different circumstances.
1:41:11
SPEAKER_06: Jay and Nas are beyond that, and Dame is broke, right?
1:41:15
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_03: So it's like, not broke, but you got prepared.
1:41:18
SPEAKER_03: At what point do you grow up?
1:41:20
SPEAKER_03: Dave do got that BMW in that warehouse, though.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
1:41:25
SPEAKER_06: I mean, that was cool when we were kids, man.
1:41:28
SPEAKER_06: Now they got cars that themselves, you know, 30-inch TVs to come down this way.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_03: Well, I do I I do want to check out the cheap the cheap teeth uh video.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_03: I can't play it.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_06: Copyright, yo.
1:41:42
SPEAKER_06: Cheese gonna sue me.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_06: That child welfare shit was funny though.
1:41:49
SPEAKER_06: Uh yeah, on that note, it's uh it's gonna be a good episode.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_06: Thank you guys.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_06: This has been productive for the evening.
1:41:57
SPEAKER_06: I appreciate you guys.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_06: We'll see you all next week.